Re: Question about libc6

1998-09-08 Thread Igor Grobman
Some time around  Mon, 07 Sep 1998 01:12:28 +0200, 
 Fernando =?iso-8859-1?Q?Hern=E1ndez?= Caso wrote:
  
  Hello: 
  I´m an user of the debian linux distribution and I was download the
  libraries libc6 which are necesaries to install the x-windows window
  manager KDE. But when I execute the command dkpg -i libc6_2_0_7t-1.deb,
  it give me a dependency error of libc5. I would like to know how can I
  install it. Thanks. 


You are running bo (1.3), right?  If this is the case, getting packages from 
the new 2.0 is not as easy as just installing them.  You'll need to go through 
a special step of upgrading your system to libc6.  This is because between 1.3 
and 2.0, the major version of the C library changed.  We migrated to libc6.  
Unfortunately, there is no way to upgrade cleanly using existing (1.3) tools.  


What you need to do is either use autoup.sh script or apt.deb package.  
Autop.sh is just a script that performs necessary upgrades for you in the 
right order.  apt-get (from apt.deb) is the backend of next-generation package 
selection tool, a dselect replacement.  Either of the methods are documented 
to work well.  At this point, it is a matter of choice.  

Both autoup.sh and apt.deb as well as upgrade instructions can be had from 
debian/dists/stable/upgrade-i386  on any debian mirror.

  
  Greetings:
   IoZ 
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Re: Your friends...... whatever.

1998-09-07 Thread Igor Grobman
Some time around  Mon, 07 Sep 1998 18:44:35 +1200, 
 Michael Beattie wrote:
  On Sat, 5 Sep 1998, Igor Grobman wrote:
  
   Having said that there is one exception to this rule ;-) and that is aol.c
  om . 
   It has been established that 99.9% of the mail with @aol.com from field ha
  s 
   nothing to do with any topics relevant to debian lists.  Right now, all 
   aol.com posts come to me, and I forward them to the list if necessary (I 
   haven't had to do any of that lately).
  
  Heh... its funny really.. AOL has quite strict rules does it not? Correct
  me if I am wrong.


Yes they do, but they do have a huge customer base and it's very easy to sign 
on even for a newbie, plus their clueful/clueless ratio is probably the lowest 
in the industry ;-).  That means that the spammers have no problem signing on 
with a new account as soon as they are kicked off, and that the chances of a 
relevant post to debian lists are very low.  I haven't seen one in about 2 
months.


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Re: Installation problems

1998-09-07 Thread Igor Grobman
Some time around  Mon, 07 Sep 1998 03:19:22 EDT, 
 Richard Heller wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I'm having a couple of problems installing Linux on my machine.  The problem
  s are revolving around two pieces of hardware, my ethernet card and my video
   card.
  
  My ethernet card is a 3com 3c905TX card.  During the boot messages, the card
   appears to be correctly detected, however I don't seem to be able to commun
  icate with any other machines.  Every so often, I also get the following mes
  sages on my screen:
  
  eth0: transmit timed out, tx_status ff status fff.
  eth0: Transmitter encountered 16 collisions -- network cable problem?
  eth0: Interrupt posted but not delivered -- IRQ blocked by another device?
  eth0: Host error, FIFO dagnostic register .
  (That line repeats a bunch of times)
  eth0: Too much work in interrupt, status .  Temporarily disabling functi
  ons (7800)


This sounds like you have an irq conflict.  Make sure your card is detected at 
the correct irq, and that the irq isn't being used by something else.  If it's 
the former, read ethernet HOWTO on how to pass the settings to the kernel on 
boot.  If it's the latter, reconfigure your card for another irq.


  
  The card works fine under Win98.  Any suggestions?

Win98 is not as strict with IRQ conflicts and may be working around the 
problem.

  
  My video card is a Real 3D StarFighter AGP card with 8M of RAM.  There doesn
  't seem to be any support for this card and when I try to use the SVGA serve
  r, it detects the amount of RAM wrong.  It thinks I have 64k instead of 8M a
  nd therefore don't have enough memory to start the server.  At best I can ru
  n X Windows with 320x200 resolution, which is something I wouldn't wish on m
  y worst enemy.  Is there an X server out there that works with this card?

What chipset does it have?  Maybe it needs a special server (as opposed to 
SVGA) designed for its chipset.  Figure out what chipset your card has, and 
search the net for what the status of the driver development is.

  
  I was so looking forward to installing Linux.  It kind of sucks that I've hi
  t these road blocks.

They are not that bad.  Everyone has some kind of problem first time they 
install.

  
  Thanks,
  Rich
  
  
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Re: Help! finding superblocks on hosed partition table

1998-09-05 Thread Igor Grobman
Some time around  Wed, 02 Sep 1998 07:52:25 CDT, 
 Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote:
  
  Oh, dear.  Just as i decided to store the whole file system, reinit
  the hd, and reinstall, it beat me to it by one boot.  I had been
  getting error messaes from fdisk, and it wouldn't create my new
  partition 3.  (the resource busy, reboot to save message)
  
  The last act was to use mtools to copy from a dosimage to the floppy.
  The new files didn't show up on the floppy, and now there's no 
  partition table.  And I don't recall the sizes :(
  
  What I do know is that hda1 was a small (30mb?) partition for /boot.
  I forget what was on hda2, but it was small enough that hda3 could
  start in the first 1024 cylinders.  and hda4 was an extended partition.

You can create a partition table from scratch if you knew the exact geometry 
using linux fdisk.  I am not sure if you can do this without knowing it at all. 

 
  A couple of weeks ago, i read about a program to scan the disks for
  superblocks to try to solve these problems.  Does anyone recall 
  what/where it is?

The superblocks are usually located every 8k on the filesystem.  The first one 
is at block 1, second is at 8193 and so on...  You can tell e2fsck (and other 
ext2 utils such as tune2fs, dumpe2fs) the location of the superblock by using 
the -b option.

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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V98 #913

1998-09-05 Thread Igor Grobman
Some time around  Wed, 02 Sep 1998 11:15:31 EDT, 
 Person, Rod wrote:
  I can't figure this out. I have been installing Debian for about 2 weeks
  of and on. I'm downloading from the net to a DOS partition.
  Every so often my Linux partition gives me a 'can not allocate memory
  error.' I run df and sure enough 100% of my partition is in used. Then I
  run dselect again or re-boot and I get the correct reading of 62% of the
  partition used! The last time this happened was last night. The night
  before I was using linux, but made no modification. I didn't add any
  files or remove any. I did touch and of the configuration file (the one
  that I know are anyway). I was in X using dfm to explore the structure I
  try to figure out the other problems I have. Maybe it has something to
  do with the way I logoff, that's all I can figure out. Can someone clue
  me in?

Something must be opening a huge temporary file (or not that huge, how big is 
your linux partition?), and of course, after you reboot, the file disappears.  
Look for interesting things in /tmp and try to track down when exactly the hd 
usage goes up to a 100 (i.e. which program uses all that space).

  
  
  Your problem is you try to figure out everything, and I can't figure
  nothing out!
  -my wife.
  
  
  
  
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Re: Your friends...... whatever.

1998-09-05 Thread Igor Grobman
Some time around  Thu, 03 Sep 1998 14:37:55 +1200, 
 Michael Beattie wrote:
  
  Isnt that a valid reason to filter out @hotmail.com, @lycos.com etc?

I am the debian anti-spam person, and I don't like to blanketly filter on 
from: addresses.  Hotmail or lycos do not have anything to do with spammers.  
Most of the time the spammers set their from address to an invalid hotmail 
address just because that's the service they know.  However, there are more 
than a few people who use such email services legitimately.  I would rather 
block the real providers of the spammers (those that give them access and/or 
relay for them) rather than block on the from: address which does not mean 
much with spammers.

Having said that there is one exception to this rule ;-) and that is aol.com . 
It has been established that 99.9% of the mail with @aol.com from field has 
nothing to do with any topics relevant to debian lists.  Right now, all 
aol.com posts come to me, and I forward them to the list if necessary (I 
haven't had to do any of that lately).



  
  I dont know about anyone else... But that sort of [EMAIL PROTECTED] really 
  bugs me.
  Unfortunately, my spam filter wont catch stuff sent to the list.. :(
 

I am trying my best to make sure debian lists do not get spam.
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*H*E*L*P* (fwd)

1998-08-31 Thread Igor Grobman

You really should post to Debian-user with questions like this.  I am sorry I 
don't have time to answer questions such as this most of the time.  I took the 
liberty of forwarding your message to the list.


Igor.

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I am not writting because I want to write a FAQ. I am writting to you
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me!!!

I bought 4 CD's of Debian from CheapBytes. I installed the CD's
everything was very confusing but I somehow managed to install Debian
and get it working with Windows 95 on the same computer. I have a
Pentium 150 with 32 Mb ram and a 1 Gb hard drive. I have a PnP Modem
(33.6Kpbs) and a PnP sound card (AWE64 Gold). Now, I tried my level best
to learn a few commands of Linux. But I think it is simply impossible. I
have downloaded the Debian Manual. I am still searching for a way to
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System. It seems that this operating system is very cAsE-SeNsEtIvE! I
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All of uu.net about to be banned.

1998-08-14 Thread Igor Grobman

In the last 3 weeks, the debian lists and their subscribers have been attacked 
by spammer(s) from uu.net.  Since the time I started handling spam for Debian, 
uu.net comprised about one third of the spam that Debian has gotten, but 
lately it has been darn close to 100%.  This is too much, IMO, and I believe a 
block of all incoming mail going through debian.org servers is necessary.  It 
will be implemented shortly.

I understand that uu.net is a huge provider.  and many large ISP's use their 
pop's (dial-in locations) for their service.  You have to understand that I am 
only blocking mail sent directly from uu.net dynamic IP addresses and stuff 
sent through relay*.uu.net.  Relay*.uu.net is being blocked because way too 
much spam is going through those servers from the same uu.net spammers that 
sometimes inject spam directly.  

This block only affects you if you are using uu.net dial-in (your dynamic IP 
resolves to something.uu.net), _and_ you configured your mail software to send 
out mail directly instead of forwarding everything to a smarthost (your 
provider's mail server).  The block also affects you if you use relay*.uu.net 
servers as your smarthost.  I understand this is not the case for almost 
anyone.  

If you are one of those affected, you'll have to change your configuration to 
forward all mail through your provider's smarthost, or change providers.  
Remember, this only affects mail you send _to_ the lists, or any of the 
debian.org addresses, but does not affect the mail that you receive _from_ 
debian lists.

Please contact me if you have any questions, and sorry for the inconvenience.

Igor


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another broken news gateway

1998-07-10 Thread Igor Grobman

Well, looks like yet another broken news gateway injected loads of old mail 
into debian-user.  I blocked it for now till I get a confirmation that it has 
been stopped.  Again, sorry for the inconvenience.


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Re: real audio for slink?

1998-06-19 Thread Igor Grobman
Some time around  Mon, 15 Jun 1998 11:19:48 EDT, 
 Paul McDermott wrote:
  hello my debian user friends, i got my soundcard to work.  It was a pnp
  awe64.  ok, is there an installer for the realaudio player for the slink
  version.  I now there is one for bo and hamm.  The one under slink uses
  old libs ie xlib6, g++27, and lib5 i don't want to put them on unless I
  have to.  Any help would be much appreciated.
  thanks,
  paul
  
 

I don't think real.com has released a libc6 version yet.  Given the fact that 
it's totally non-free binary-only software you have no choice but to install 
libc5-based libs whether you use the installer or not.
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Re: compiling sendmail on libc6: redefinitions in socket.h

1998-06-19 Thread Igor Grobman
Some time around  Wed, 17 Jun 1998 13:05:50 +0200, 
 Lutz Kotoll wrote:
  Hi,
  
  On 16 Jun 1998, Jens Ritter wrote:
  
   Have a look at the slink sendmail package.
   debian/dists/slink/main/source/mail/sendmail_8.9.0-3.diff.gz
   etc.
  
  ahh, nice to have it as a package.
  But:
  that doesn't help me compile it myself (from the original sources) -- how
  do i get around the error messages? (maybe it hasn't to do with sendmail
  itself but with local libc6 configuration?)

Take a look at the debian patch which is included in the sendmail source 
package (debian/hamm/hamm/source/mail/sendmail*diff.gz).  It probably has all 
the libc6 fixes.  This way you will save yourself a lot of time figuring out 
and fixing the errors.


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Re: Install disks for Debian/PowerMac?

1998-06-19 Thread Igor Grobman
Some time around  17 Jun 1998 17:51:39 PDT, 
 Tor Slettnes wrote:
  
  The Debian Hamm tree contains binaries for i386, alpha, m68k, sparc
  and powerpc; but only install disks for the first four of these
  architectures.  
  
  How does one obtain install disks or a pointer to an install procedure 
  for Debian on PowerPC/PowerMac?

Powerpc port is in a very early stage of its development.  The install disks 
do not exist for that architecture yet.  In case you are interested in helping 
with this port, you should subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .  
Otherwise, you just need to wait.

NOTE: I am not involved with powerpc at all.  I just know a bit about the 
state of the port through irc conversations.

  
  Thanks
  -tor
  
  
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Re: GECM.COM: Delivery Notification: Delivery has failed

1998-06-15 Thread Igor Grobman
Some time around  Sun, 14 Jun 1998 18:42:38 EDT, 
 Paul Miller wrote:
  
  Either debian.org or someone on this list has or relays to a system called
  'gecm.com'.  I've been receiving lots of messages saying that a delivery
  has failed, which is not true. 
  
  These messages are usually over a day later than when I sent them, have
  been successfully received by the destination, and sometimes they've even
  replied!
  
  .. so if this is your server, please fix it! 

You should direct such complaints to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .  They can unsub 
the offending subscriber.  Posting this to the list is kind of pointless.
 
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Re: apt weirdness

1998-06-14 Thread Igor Grobman
Some time around  Fri, 12 Jun 1998 17:56:04 EDT, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I am doing 'apt-get update' and it dies saying:
  
  Get ftp://ftp.debian.org frozen/contrib Packages   
  31% [Packages 2920/21.4k 13%]Uncaught exception from user code: 

   Timeout at /usr/lib/perl5/Net/FTP.pm line 334
  Carp::croak('Timeout') called at /usr/lib/perl5/Net/FTP.pm line 1060
  Net::FTP::I::read('Net::FTP::I=GLOB(0x8365cb0)', 'M-M-m^JL^[M-V ^_;
  M-pN
  kM-%M-/JUM-]6M-H?M-^TM-YM-^Q1M-DM-{mM-q^HM-\[EMAIL PROTECTED]@lM-A
  M-1^
  Zd^M1M-mM-)7M-iVM-^E?^M_MM-^OZg...', 1024) called at /usr/lib/perl5/Net/FTP.
  pm l
  ine 334
  Net::FTP::get('Net::FTP=GLOB(0x830d498)', '/debian/dists/frozen/cont
  rib/
  binary-i386/Packages.gz', 'ftp.debian.org_debian_dists_frozen_contrib_binary
  -i38
  6_Packages') called at /usr/lib/apt/methods/ftp line 476
  main::handle_requests('Configuration', 'HASH(0x81c50d4)') called at 
  /usr
  /lib/apt/methods/ftp line 545
  main::main('ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/frozen/contrib/binary-
  i386
  /Pac...', 'ftp.debian.org_debian_dists_frozen_contrib_binary-i386_Packages',
   'ft
  p://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/Packag...', 'ftp.deb
  ian.
  org_debian_dists_frozen_main_binary-i386_Packages', 'ftp://ftp.debian.org/de
  bian
  /dists/frozen/non-free/binary-i386/Pa...', 'ftp.debian.org_debian_dists_froz
  en_n
  on-free_binary-i386_Packages') called at /usr/lib/apt/methods/ftp line 549
  Fetched 29.0k in 2m55s (165b/s)
  ERROR ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/frozen/contrib/binary-i386/Packages.
  gz
Bad return code from subprocess
  
  My apt is version .16, Any ideas anyone? 


Just got the same thing while updating.  It looks like the ftp session timed 
out, but I don't think it should complain this loud about it ;-).  Hence, I am 
cc'ing this to apt developers.

 
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Re: Mail problems

1998-05-20 Thread Igor Grobman
Some time around  Mon, 18 May 1998 22:21:23 MDT, 
 Mike Patterson wrote:
  
  I've started getting this error when trying to send mail, and I can't
  recieve mail:
  
  What now? send
  post: problem initializing server; [BHST] no servers available
  send: message not delivered to anyone   

This sounds like an error message from mh.  You are using one of mh clients, 
right?  

What this message is really saying is that you probably have your mail server 
misconfigured or not running.  What mail transport agent are you using (i.e. 
qmail, smail, sendmail or exim)?  Check that it's configured properly.  

Try doing this:

telnet localhost 25

if you get connection refused, your mail server is not running.  Start it 
using the appropriate /etc/init.d script.

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Re: Debian, Notebook, and Parallel CDROM

1998-04-05 Thread Igor Grobman
 
 
 Dear Debian Community,
 
 Could anybody give me a hint on where to find a 'notebook-howto' or the like?

Check out PCMCIA-Howto which can be found on many linux related sites (http://
www.linux.org comes to mind) and also check faqomatic's section on PCMCIA at 
http://www.debian.org/cgi-bin/fom, then click configuration, then PCMCIA.


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Re: AOL and spam (way OFFTOPIC)

1998-04-05 Thread Igor Grobman
 M.C. Bezemer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Hi!
  
  Just in case you didn't yet notice, it seems that the spam mail
  on the debian-user list is coming from only ONE sender.
 
 Well, all the spam that came from aol.
 
 I notice that no one seems at all upset about the obviously commercial
 spam (even to me, a non-chinese speaker [1]) sent from netvigator.com by
 way of hkstar.com, in chinese.  (this seems especially odd as that
 spammer very obviously tried to hide his/her identity)  Does spam only
 offend if it is legible by the recipient?  Is the real offense in spam
 not the wasting of disk space (for truly, these aol spams are really
 very short things, individually) but the forcing of commercial
 thoughts into the heads of the recipient.

No, it's just that I assumed it was someone trying to get help in chinese ;-). 
I am sure most other people skipped the message on the same grounds.  The 
offense of spam is that if you don't stop it in time, your bandwidth and hd 
space *will* be wasted.  The latest stats show that 80% ( i might be a little 
off on this) of usenet traffic is spam and spam cancels.  


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Re: gcc problem

1998-03-10 Thread Igor Grobman


 My hamm system crashed and burned yesterday
 the problem was related to an accidently installe dpackage not
 unmounting filesystems properly on reboot
 in any case
 today I re-installed. I installed bo then I upgraded to hamm
 via autoup.sh and the CD I burned on 3-4-98
 then of course dselect and all...installed X etc...
 then I was about to re-build my kernel...when I got an error message
 from gcc...here is a little snipit from a try:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] sjc]gcc hello.c
 gcc: Internal compiler error: program ld got fatal signal 11



This sounds like a hardware problem.  See www.bitwizard.nl/sig11 for 
explanation.


 
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Re: Tcl/Tk source ?

1998-03-10 Thread Igor Grobman
 

  
  I wondered if there is a way to 'mimic' install/remove with dpkg?
  
  
  Thanks,
  
  Mac
  
  
 
 If you go to /var/lib/dpkg, you will find a file called status. This
 appears to be how dselect keeps track of what's installed/configured/etc.
 The format is pretty self explanitory, so you should be able to hack the
 status line of the package in question, fooling dselect into thinking it
 installed the package.


Mucking with status file is a Very Bad Idea (tm).  There was ascii2deb utility 
floating around in random .deb files ;-) a while ago.  It does not seem to be 
present in hamm.  There is also an equivs package available in hamm which 
should do the job well.  Due to its nature, you should be safe with installing 
it on a bo system (it does not use libc6 and such)


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Re: I need help

1998-03-03 Thread Igor Grobman

 On Mon, 2 Mar 1998, IIR == Ivan  Ines Rojas wrote:

  IIR Hi there, I just finish installing and setting my linux box, which
  IIR wasn't a easy job for a windows user :-) and then I decided to use PPP.
  IIR I install the module accordingly with the PPP-HOWTO but I'm missing the
  IIR ppp-on and ppp-off files.

PPP-HOWTO's way is not quite compatible with debian.  I suggest you read 
http://www.debian.org/cgi-bin/fom?file=20 and ask questions here if it doesn't 
help.

 
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Re: BGP

1998-02-27 Thread Igor Grobman

Just a note:  AFAIK debs.fuller.edu does distribute gated .debs
 
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Re: dpkg --help | less

1998-02-17 Thread Igor Grobman

 On Tue, 17 Feb 98, IW == IAN WATKINS wrote:

  IW On my system the dpkg --help seems to come out on the wrong console. For
  IW instance if I do a dpkg --help | less then less doesn't seem to come into
  IW the picture at all.

  To check this out I did dpkg --help 2 dpkg.txt and all the help came

  IW out in the file.

  IW Is this correct behaviour or am I missing something? AFAICT all the
  IW other packages I have done a | less on to get the help have worked as I
  IW expected.


Dpkg --help prints on stderr, not on stdout as most others do. This is not an 
expected behavior, and a bug is already filed.


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Re: wanted packages

1998-02-11 Thread Igor Grobman

 On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, LOLZ == Luiz Otavio L. Zorzella wrote:

  LOLZ Is there any address where we can send our wishes to debian packages
  LOLZ we would like to see created?

Send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a request to add the packages to Work 
Needing and Prospective Packages list.


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Re: Hard Install

1998-02-10 Thread Igor Grobman

Well, I must confirm.  Every time I reinstall win95, it reenables the default 
APM configuration in my BIOS, and I don't even have a standard one, but rather 
the obscure Acer BIOS.  This behaviour has been very consistent, and I can 
easily reproduce it.

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Re: Checking mail from several ISPs

1998-02-09 Thread Igor Grobman

Install fetchmail, and look over its manpage.  It can do everything you want.

 On Mon, 9 Feb 1998, IP == Ian Perry wrote:

  IP Hi all,

  IP I have set up a Debian system to allow several computers to utilise the
  IP one internet modem line using IP masquerade, and would like to get linux
  IP to check several email accounts at different ISPs, and route them to a
  IP mailbox, for the relevant win95 desktop to pick them up automatically, at
  IP say 10 minute intervals, while online.

  IP There are several email addresses going to several desktops, but there
  IP are no repeated email addresses.

  
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Re: Installproblem Xfree86.

1998-02-09 Thread Igor Grobman
Please use the debian packages of X, not the tarballs distributed by XFree86.  
See http://www.debian.org/cgi-bin/fom?file=21 for instructions.


 On Mon, 9 Feb 1998, JB == Joakim Burman wrote:

  JB Hello Debian-users!

  JB Can someone help me with some Newbie questions..

  JB 1. When I try to install Xfree86 whith gzip I got (I think) an
  JB errormessage like Broken Pipe. What does that mean?  2. How do you
  JB run shell script? In Howto:s for Xfree86 they say you want to run the
  JB shellscript preinst.sh first of all but I don«t now how to do that.
  JB 3. It don«t seems that I have the manual-klient man. What packagename
  JB is that manual-klient?  When I try to run with startx as root the
  JB message I get is:
  ...

 
 
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Re: tricks for fetchmail and signify

1998-02-01 Thread Igor Grobman

I'll create a section called Debian Tips in faqomatic, and put this as the 
first one to start it all :-).  


Sounds good?
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Re: where is it?

1998-01-27 Thread Igor Grobman
 
 Now that two people gave the same advice, I'm going to
 dissent.  The instructions in install.txt are adequate if
 you have Debian on CDROM.  Not if you download to disk
 yourself.  I downloaded what I believed was an accurate copy of
 ftp.cdrom.com:/pub/linux/debian/bo onto a spare hard
 drive and mounted it on the machine being installed.
 But I could never find an answer that would satisfy the
 ambiguous prompt that wants to know where to find the Debian distribution
 already mounted.
 (Is there a missing top level directory?  What's its name?)

You probably should have entered debian/bo/disks-i386/current.  The script 
jusst looks for a directory that contains all the files needed for the initial 
setup, and they all come from disks-i386

 I installed from CD ROM later with no problems.
 Install.txt glosses over this, I suppose because
 most people are installing from the CD or over the network.
 
 I don't know how to fix it or I would have sent in a patch.
 For now, we shouldn't be telling newcomers to Linux that
 install.txt is all the info they'll need to install Debian.
 The ones who try to download it may be disappointed.

Well, install.txt has its shortcomings, and that's why I have taken over the 
maintenance of it.  However, I haven't done work on it yet, because I was told 
the new bootdisks are completely redone, and I decided to wait for their 
release.  Of course, this means  that the bo install.txt will never get 
improved, but I don't see much sense in doing it at this point.


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Re: exmh dependencies

1998-01-27 Thread Igor Grobman
 I'm trying to install the exmh package, but I'm running into an interesting
 problem.  It depends on tcl40 or tcl41, and I have tcl42.  ALso, it depends
 on tk74 or tk75.  I have tk76.  Is this a bug/problem, or normal?

This is a stable system, right? I guess the dependencies were wrong, but it's 
too late to change at this point.  You can safely use --force-depends in this 
case.

Igor
(who took over maintaining exmh package after the release of bo)

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Re: FAT32 support for LINUX

1998-01-22 Thread Igor Grobman
 
 Does anybody know if the version of Linux that was provided with 11/97
 bootDISC CD support FAT32?


No, it does not support fat32 in default kernel.  You will need to apply fat32 
patches and compile a custom kernel.  You will find the patches at 
http://bmrc.berkeley.edu/people/chaffee/fat32.html



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Re: debian-user FAQ: your help is needed!

1998-01-20 Thread Igor Grobman
 Hi,
 
 I took a look at the FAQ. I think you should change the way the menu is
 sorted, e.g. About the FAQ in the middle of the list isn't very useful.
 Also newbie question are asked before questions concerning the
 installation, etc.


Yea, I know, I've created categories as I thought of them, not in any 
particular order.  I've been thinking of reordering them, and I guess now is 
as good time as any to  rearrange it :).
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debian-user FAQ: your help is needed!

1998-01-19 Thread Igor Grobman

Greetings all!

I've set up a framework for debian-user FAQ using FAQ-O-Matic by Jon Howell.  
Faq-o-matic allows maintaining a FAQ using web interface.  I hope this FAQ 
will become one of the best and most thorough databases of linux info on the 
net.  This requires most of us to contribute however.  At this point, I am 
looking for moderators for each section (see below).  I am also looking for 
feedback regarding the setup.  I am sure some categories need to be added, and 
the color scheme is probably not the best, but I am not sure which is better.  
Anyone who wants to customize the color scheme of faqomatic should contact me.  
 

The way I set it up for debian-user FAQ is for every section (category) to have
a  maintainer who would be the only one allowed to modify the items in the 
section.  Under every section, there is a world-writable submit your answers 
section where users can post their submissions, and the maintainer would later 
move it.  To sum up, the responsibility of the section moderator/maintainer is 
to make sure his section is up-to-date, add answers based on the threads in 
debian-user, and manage the user-submitted answers and feedback.

Please contact me if you'd like to help.

Thanks!
 
P.S. the FAQ is at http://www.debian.org/cgi-bin/fom  almost forgot  :-)


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Re: SVGATextMode - thanks for help

1998-01-15 Thread Igor Grobman
 On Wed, Jan 14, 1998 at 04:48:30PM -0500, Igor Grobman wrote:
  
   - don't use SVGATextMode if X is started
  
  Why? works fine here.
 
 He's right. X Server looks at the Textmode to save and restore it properly,
 but only once at startup-time. It then assumes that the mode keeps the same.
 So it fails to restore it properly if you switched mode in the meantime.
 
 Try: stm 100x37; startx; change back to console; stm 80x25; change to X and
 back to console, you get a skewed screen.

It always worked fine for me here, and it does now, but the manpage does 
mention that X-server indeed only saves textmode once at startup-time.  Maybe 
it only works for some vidcards, or maybe the more likely reason is that I am 
running the latest X-server(3.3.1-2) while bo has 3.3 which is older.



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Re: SVGATextMode - thanks for help

1998-01-14 Thread Igor Grobman

 problems:
 - maybe the mouse is stuck in the upper screen (I didn't take care of
 that actually)

you need to add the following to your TextConfig (or uncomment it as the case 
might be):

ResetProg /path/where/reset/script/is/located

the reset script from the hamm version of stm is attached. The unstable 
version of stm fixes the problem by including the script attached as 
/usr/sbin/STM_reset and having TextConfig point to it.


 - don't use SVGATextMode if X is started

Why? works fine here.


Igor
(debian stm maintainer)
#!/bin/bash
#
# This scripts is called from the resetprog line in TextConfig,
# when SVGATextMode has finished switching modes.
#
# This example only restarts selection, since that's all I need.
# 
# Adapt this script so it suits YOUR system setup. 
#
#echo Screen resized to $1x$2. Restarting GPM...
#/usr/bin/gpm -k # kill gpm
#/usr/bin/gpm -t ms  # for MicroSoft Mice

#
# The following should work, too, but a kernel bug prevents it from working 
(according to Mr Rubini).
# A kernel patch is included in this directory which SHOULD solve this.
#
# *** modified by Igor Grobman to work with debian's gpm package 
if [ -f /var/run/gpmpid ]
then
echo Screen resized to $1x$2. Restarting GPM...
kill -WINCH `cat /var/run/gpmpid` # gets pid from current gpm 
daemon, and send resize signal to it
fi
# ** end modifications 

#
#
# Some programs need not be restarted, but just need a SIGWINCH signal sent 
to them.
# Emacs and gpm seem to be examples of this (according to Alessandro Rubini)
#
# killall -WINCH -v emacs   # this sends window change signal to all 
processes called emacs
#
# for those still using selection: this restarts it
#
# /bin/killall -v selection
# (/usr/bin/selection -t ms )   # for MicroSoft mouse. Other mice need other 
option!


#
# If you want to make sure you also get back to a sane keyboard state, use
# kbd_mode -a here, and put the command stm -o your_mode under a
# mousebutton combination in the GPM mouse driver
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Re:libc5 to libc6 auto-upgrade script

1998-01-10 Thread Igor Grobman

This version should be close to good enough.  The major change since the last 
one that was posted is the ability to upgrade from files in the current dir 
instead of a local mirror requirement. 

This script still needs testing.

--cut here--
#! /bin/sh

# upgrade a libc5 (bo) machine to libc6 (hamm).

# based on Scott Ellis' excellent Debian libc5 to libc6 Mini-HOWTO
# document at http://www.gate.net/~storm/FAQ/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.html

# Author: Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#
# Copyright Status: This script is hereby placed in the public domain
#
# Revision History:
# v0.0: 1998-01-08 (morning)
#   - a rough transcript of scott's doc and my own experiences
# v0.1: 1998-01-08 (night)
#   - a few bugfixes
#   - i got unlazy and put in the right subdirectories for each package. 
# should run a lot faster.
#   - now checks for failure at critical points and exits with a different
# exit code for each failure.
#   - now uses 'binary-$(dpkg --print-installation-architecture)' instead 
# of 'binary-i386'.
# v0.2: 1998-01-09 
#   - fixed the perl-base/perl install (thanks Lindsay!)
#   - improved the DEVPACKAGES=$(dpkg --get-selections...) and added -dbg
# packages.
# v0.3: 1998-01-09 (p.m.)
#   - fixed some directories
#  -  changed -iB to -iBE so that if the script fails and is run again
#   it will not disturb things already in place.
#   - added a final dpkg --configure --pending.
#   - sanity check that we are in the right place added
# v0.4: 1998-01-10 (Igor Grobman)
#-made it possible to place all packages in current dir.
#-added -pic packages to removal list.
#-make sure dpkg-dev does not get selected for removal.
#-moved dpkg-ftp and dpkg-mounted to the end.  
#v0.5: 1998-01-10 (Igor Grobman)
#-added a note about upgrading libraries 
#
#
# TODO: (probably by somebody else.  this script is mostly good enough imo)
#   - error checking

echo This script will install the packages necessary to ensure a safe
echo upgrade to hamm.  You need to either have a local or remote mirror
echo mounted, or have the following packages available in the current
echo directory: ldso, libc5, libc6, timezones, locales,  
echo ncurses3.0, ncurses3.4, libreadline2, libreadlineg2, bash, libg++272,
echo dpkg, dpkg-dev, dpkg-ftp, dpkg-mountable, libgdbm1, libgdbmg1, perl-base,
echo and perl.  If you are using a mirror, press 'm'.  If you have the files
echo -n if you have the files in the current dir, press 'c': (m/c) 
read answer


case $answer
in
m)  #local mirror available

# first, build up a list of installed -dev packages so that we can
# remove them.  remove wg-15-locale too.
#
# this is necessary even on machines which aren't doing libc6
# development because libc5 can't be upgraded to latest version without
# removal of libc5-dev which also necessitates removal of other -dev
# packages like libdb1-dev and libdl1-dev if they are installed.

DEVPACKAGES=$( dpkg --get-selections | 
grep -v dpkg-dev |
grep -v deinstall | 
cut -f1 |
grep -- -dev$\|-pic$\|-dbg$ )

dpkg --remove -B $DEVPACKAGES wg15-locale || exit 1

# now install the new versions of things.  Just the bare minimum to let
# the user safely run dselect for the rest of the upgrade.

# change this to prompt the user for the location of the debian archive.
cd /debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-$(dpkg --print-installation-architecture)

# sanity check that we are in the right place
[ -f base/libc6_* ] || exit 9

# libc
#
dpkg -iBE base/ldso_*.deb base/libc5_*.deb base/libc6_*.deb \
base/timezones_*.deb admin/locales_*.deb || exit 2

# libreadline, ncurses, and bash
#
dpkg -iBE libs/ncurses3.0_*.deb base/ncurses3.4_*.deb  || exit 3
dpkg -iBE oldlibs/libreadline2_*.deb  || exit 4
dpkg -iBE base/libreadlineg2_*.deb || exit 5

# paranoia says run ldconfig NOW. don't laugh, i've needed to do this on
# some libc5-libc6 upgrades. i know that the postinst scripts for the
# libs are supposed to do it but 
ldconfig
dpkg -iBE base/bash_*.deb || exit 6

# new dpkg
#
dpkg -iBE devel/libg++272_*.deb || exit 7
dpkg -iBE base/dpkg_*.deb  utils/dpkg-dev_*.deb

# perl
#
dpkg -iBE base/libgdbm1_*.deb devel/libgdbmg1_*.deb || exit 8
# paranoia says run ldconfig now.
ldconfig
dpkg -iBE base/perl-base_*.deb || exit 9
dpkg -iBE interpreters/perl_*.deb

# strictly speaking, dpkg-ftp and dpkg-mountable are not essential to
# upgrade right now but they're both very useful.
dpkg -iBE base/dpkg-ftp_*.deb admin/dpkg-mountable_*.deb


# paranoia says to run this at the end
dpkg --configure --pending

# paranoia says: run sync, so lets do it :-)
sync ; sync ; sync 
;;

c) #all packages in current dir

# first, build up a list of installed -dev packages so that we can
# remove them.  remove wg-15-locale too.
#
# this is necessary even on machines which aren't doing libc6
# development because libc5 can't be upgraded to latest version without
# removal of libc5-dev which also necessitates removal of other

Re: New gv does not find Xaw3D-libs

1997-12-08 Thread Igor Grobman
 Hi all,
 recently I completed my libc6-upgrade with no further problems but 
 now I cannot start gv anymore. It gives me:
 
 $ gv
 gv: error in loading shared libraries
 libXaw3d.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
 
 And ldd shows:
 
 $ ldd /usr/bin/X11/gv 
 libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6 (0x4000f000)
 libXaw3d.so.6 = not found
 libXmu.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x40028000)
 libXt.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x4003a000)
 libSM.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x40082000)
 libICE.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x4008b000)
 libXext.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x400a)
 libX11.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x400ae000)
 libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40151000)
 /lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)
 
 I am using the gv-package gv_3.5.8-.1.deb form unstable and
 I do have this xaw stuff installed:
 
 $ dpkg -l | grep xaw
 ii  xaw-wrappers0.11   allow use of programs with xaw replacements
 ii  xaw3d   1.3-6.1Adds a cute 3d to X apps using the athena 
 wi
 ii  xaw95   1.1-4.1Windows 95-like look for X apps using the 
 At


looks like you need xaw3dg installed.
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Unidentified subject!

1997-12-08 Thread Igor Grobman
 I don't have a modem or network card and I want to install Linux on a 
 clean harddrive I have a rescue disk but I need base  installation disks 
 . See all of the base files I have are on cdrom Which my system will not 
 detect untill I reboot it What can I do??
 

You can make a small dos partition, and copy the following files in a dir on 
that partition: everything from boot/ dir on your cdrom + base1_3.tgz and 
drv1440.bin from stable/disks-i386 directory on your cdrom.


You can also rawrite the floppy images on floppy disks using rawrite utility 
(int tools/ dir).  You will need to rawrite the following files on the 
floppies:  resc1440.bin, drv1440.bin and base*bin, and then boot with the 
rescue disk in your floppy drive. 

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Re: 3FA: ???

1997-12-06 Thread Igor Grobman
 
 
  Run liloconfig, and answer the questions it asks you appropriately.
 
 Is this the right program?  all three questions are yes/no types, rather than 
 allowing me to change them.  It wants to use /dev/hda3, /, for boot, and has 
 no option to change to /dev/hda1.


I took a look at it, and it indeed assumes that if you want to boot off linux 
partition, then you want it to be /.  You may want to submit a bug against 
lilo.  Your only option is to edit /etc/lilo.conf and make it something like 
this:

boot=/dev/hda
root=/dev/hda3
install=/boot/boot.b
read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=linux

Then you should run lilo and reboot

Note that this will install lilo into MBR.  If you don't want to do that, and 
want to leave the debian mbr block in there (the thing that produces 123FA at 
times), you can take a look at /usr/sbin/liloconfig (perl script) and see the 
weird ways it handles it :-).  Also, see /usr/doc/mbr.  However, I don't see a 
reason debian does this anyway, I was once told that the reason is because mbr 
is safer than lilo. 

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Re: e2fsprogs

1997-12-06 Thread Igor Grobman
 
 Hi,
 
 How does one move to the libc6 e2fsprogs without using force in dpkg ? I
 tried installing commer2g and dpkg tried removing e2fsprogs. How does go
 about upgrading ?

You should install e2fsprogsg.  This name change is a bug in itself (appending 
g is for the libc6-based shared libraries, not programs) , and  the 
maintainer will soon release a new e2fsprogs package which will have the old 
name.

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Re: KDE mismatched packages...

1997-12-05 Thread Igor Grobman
 
 Hey..
 
 Is there anyreason that some of the packages in non-free are beta2-1 and
 some are beta2-2?  Very frustrating when there isn't enough of either of
 them for a full install.

This is because some of them are stuck in the Incoming AFAIK.  Our archive 
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Re: 3FA: ???

1997-12-05 Thread Igor Grobman
 
 I've seen the 1FA business before, but now that I've managed to move my file 
 system over to my new drive, and lilo'd it, I get a 3FA: after the hardware 
 check.  The key sequence A1 (i think) will get me to LILO, which will boot if 
 left alone.  I checked and I'm not touching the keys as it boots.
 
 /hda1 is /boot, which contains the kernel, and /hda3 is /, which is well past 
 1024 sectors.
 
 How do I get rid of this?  It would be nice to go back to being able to boot 
 without intervention :)


Run liloconfig, and answer the questions it asks you appropriately.


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Re: Filling in the dialog boxes with Taper 6.8.2

1997-11-26 Thread Igor Grobman
 Hello,
 
 I've just installed the Taper 6.8.2 backup to tape programme.
 
 I have encountered a curious phenomena namely that I cannot type any 
 characters in the message boxes, i.e. name of backup etc.
 
 The cursor left and right arrows are the only things that work. 
 
 The programme is a semi-graphic type of programme i.e. colours, cursor 
 driven menu, etc. and I was wondering if I needed to do something with 
 setterm.
 
 Anyone got an idea?

sounds like an ncurses problem.  Try reinstalling ncurses3.0 and/or ncurses3.4
packages (depending on whether you run stable or unstable).

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Re: cu connects to PnP modem ok, but no response for AT

1997-11-26 Thread Igor Grobman
 Earlier, I reported that:
 
 # cu --speed 115200 ---line /dev/ttyS1
 cu:  open (/dev/ttyS1): Permission denied
 cu:  /dev/ttyS1:  Line in use
 
 To fix this, I did:
 
 # vigr
 [added my user name to the 'dialout' group]
 # newgrp dialout
 
 Then:
 
 # cu --speed 115200 --line /dev/ttyS1
 Connected
 [here I type atf, which is not echoed]
 cu: write:  I/O error
 Disconnected
 #

Looks like your modem is not really detected by linux.  The connected 
message from cu only means that it was able to access /dev/ttyS1 device, but 
the fact that your commands are not echoed means your modem is not detected.  
Most pnp modems need isapnptools to work, unless there is a way to get it back 
into legacy mode. Install isapnptools package, and take a look at 
/usr/doc/isapnptools/INSTALL.
  

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Re: Cleaning dselect

1997-11-26 Thread Igor Grobman
 Does anyone know a way to clean dselect to only show info on the
 installed packages?

no, you have to clean up your mess ;-)

 
 I botched some of it, and now its nuts trying to figure what is to be
 installed.. what is considered on purge.. and what is removed.

Try to run through install and configure stages a couple more times, and 
watch the messages that go scrolling on your screen.  They should give you a 
clue of what's failing.

 
 
 I have entries for packages that haven't installed correctly (ie xv..
 due to a conflict ) that isn't on the system to work with anyways... I'd
 like it removed.

mark them for removal by putting the cursor on the name of the package, and 
pressing - to remove or _ to purge.  After you marked them for removal, go 
into remove step of dselect, and it should remove all the packages you don't 
want.

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Re: fat32 in installation vfat module?

1997-11-19 Thread Igor Grobman
   I'm interested in submitting a 'Beginner's Debian Installation Guide' of
   some sort.  I have about 80% of the framework of one completed, but am
   concerned about the lack of fat32 support.  As is stands, if someone has a
   new computer formatted in fat32, they would have to format a fat16
   partition to download the packages into.  the vfat module in the
  
  Not correct.  In no case do you have to download the packages onto a
  non-Debian partition.  dselect can automatically grab the packages you
  need on-the-fly via PPP, Ethernet, Token Ring, or whatever network
  system you have.  There is no need to download them beforehand; in
  fact, doing so will probably be much more difficult.
 
 I was under the impression that the base install doesn't come with full
 PPP support (it says this during installation).  After the base install
 (from floppy), you still are unable to dialup.  If you could dialup, that
 would, of course, solve everything.

The ppp support is not fully setup, you need to provide some configuration, 
but all the programs needed for a ppp connection are part of base
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Re: cannot find qt1g in unstable

1997-11-18 Thread Igor Grobman
 Hi,
 
 I am trying to install the KDE desktop, which depends
 on qt1 and some if it's libraries on qt1g.
 I cannot find qt1q in the hamm distribution..

It's stuck in the Incoming.  llug.sep.bnl.gov and ftp1.us.debian.org are 2 of 
the many sites that carry it.
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Re: Ports using X

1997-11-17 Thread Igor Grobman
try netstat -a

 Hello,
 
 Can someone tell me how to find out which ports X uses. 
 Example : If I run XVision from win95 and connect to a remote client how
 can I find out
 which port is being used at the remote machine. This may not make a
 bunch
 of sense but if you can decipher it please let me know the answer.
 
 thanks, Sudi Patel, HSDC
 
 
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Re: Using source code for debian; compiling debian

1997-11-06 Thread Igor Grobman
 On Wed, 5 Nov 1997, Bruce Perens wrote:
 
  Several hundred of the Debian packages will compile automaticaly. A number
  of them will not, and require a bit of hand tweaking.
  
  You can't install _all_ debian packages, as many of them conflict with each
  other. For example we distribute at least 4 web servers, and you'd only want
  one.
 
 I think this is a major shortcoming of the debian package
 system.  Why wouldn't I want to run two different web
 servers?  Two packages that provide the same functionality
 don't need to be mutually exclusive.  Likewise, I'd very
 much like to see support for multiple concurrent package
 instances.  This is key for migration in a production
 environment.  It goes without saying that its a must for a
 development environment.  It would require rethinking quite
 a few things though.

Actually, you _can_ run all 4 web servers at the same time.  I just checked, 
they don't conflict.  You can't have more than 1 MTA though.  I suspect this 
is because they all provide /usr/bin/sendmail and other conflicting files for 
compatibility.
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Re: Private XF-Mail package available

1997-09-01 Thread Igor Grobman
On Aug 31, Britton wrote
 
 While on the subject of odd things that I don't begin to understand: since
 I fixed my chatscript so my modem hung up when DTR went low (by
 initializing the modem with ATZ and ATD2), my computer occasionally
 decides to connect itself to the internet without my doing anything at
 all.  I run pon, later run poff, and a few minutes or hours later I hear
 my computer dialing.  It has done this twice now. I have looked for
 residual ppp or chat processes with ps -ax but I don't see any.  On both
 occasions rc5v2 was running, set to communicate freely on all ports.  I
 don't have diald installed.

Could it be the /sbin/request-route script, part  of modutils?  Apparently,
this is a script called by kernel whenever it cannot find a route.  You migt 
want to change this script to make sure it doesn't randomly connect you to 
your isp. 

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Re: integrate X-programms

1997-08-31 Thread Igor Grobman
On Aug 31, Volker Bauer wrote
 Hi,
 
 finally I have now Debian installed after putting a simple / to the
 question were is my top level located. Now I wonder why the X-Server
 doesn't run (3D Virge) although I installed the particiular server, just
 it runs in vga16 mode. How can I configure X? (xconfig or make xconfig
 doesn't work)

you need the following packages installed:
xbase, xlib6, xserver-vga16 (if you want graphical config interface), xserver 
for your card (my guess is xserver-s3 or xserver-svga in your case).  After 
you've installed them, run XF86Setup (graphical configuration) or xf86config 
(text-based configuaration). 

 
 As well how can I integrate all X-programms and games on the X-screen?
 There is currently just the desktop and a shell for input.

Looks like you are missing a window manager.  Debian has a number of window 
managers to choose from, including afterstep, fvwm2, fvwm95, twm and so on.  
They are all located in section x11.  YOu may also want to install menu 
package which will put most of the programs you have installed on your window
manager's menu.  You may also edit you window manager's rc file to create 
custom menus, or you may use the menu package's custom menus, which will make
your custom menus available to all window managers.

 
 Sorry for these questions - I'm brandnew to Debian and Linux. I checked
 some Faq's but didn't find the proper answers. 
 
 As well I got some problems while installing Netscape. It didn't worked
 although I made the selection in dselect. I always got errormessages
 until I unselceted Netscape. Is there a known bug?

No.  Debian is not allowed to distribute netscape.  The netscape package you 
see is just an installer.  YOu need to put netscape archive in /tmp for  the 
installer package  to work.

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Re: Printing html Debian documentation?

1997-08-30 Thread Igor Grobman
On %M %N, Douglas Bates wrote
 
 Alternatively, am I completely missing the boat and trying to retrofit
 a printed copy from the html version of the documentation when there
 is another, more easily printed, version.

Yes :).  If you get the source of dpkg, you will find the sgml source of the 
manuals (probably callled packaging.sgml).  It can be easily converted to 
postscript using debiandoc2ps program provided in debiandoc-sgml package.


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Re: making poff hang up phone

1997-08-30 Thread Igor Grobman
On %M %N, Britton wrote
 
 On Sat, 30 Aug 1997, Joerg Friedrich wrote:
 
  On Sat, 30 Aug 1997, Shaleh wrote:
  
   Unless your modem does something odd when it connects, yeah poff should
   send the hang-up command.  Try following the files poff calls and see if
   one of them is not doing its job.  Most modems hangup on an 'ATH'.
  
  I think 'poff' lowers dtr. try atd2
 
 How do I send this?  

This should be part of the init string sent to the modem in the  chatscript.  
Here is the relevant part from my /etc/ppp.chatscript

ATFD2W2
OK   ATDTXXX

 

I have already tried (perhaps unwisely) putting 
 echo 'ATH0'  /dev/ttyS3 in the poff script but it didn't do anything.

if for some reason the above trick will not work, you may want to put the 
following in poff

echo '+++'  /dev/ttyS3  # put modem in command mode
sleep 5 
echo 'ATH0'  /dev/ttyS3

This is an untested example and may not work.


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Re: Looking for Talk - HOWTO

1997-08-05 Thread Igor Grobman
 
 I have a question concerning talk. I would like to talk with a friend
 if he and I are online.
 We both connect to the net via ppp.
 
 My friend gets my IP-number, say by e-Mail.
 
 Now he could talk to me by talk [EMAIL PROTECTED], right?
 If he tries this, I can see a connect message in my xconsole like
 ---
   Aug  5 14:52:42 fliwatut in.talkd[3207]: connect from foo.foo.org
    ^^^
   my hostname here
 
 But I don't get a 
 Talk requested by-message on any terminal I am logged in.
 
 So my question is:
 How can I be talked at my local Debian-machine??


You need to set your hostname to the one that resolves  into your ip address.  
For example node32.yourprovider.com  This can be done by modifying /etc/hosts 
each time you connect, or by using hostname command (and running it as root).  
Running 'hostname node32.yourprovider.com' will set your default hostname to 
the above.


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Re: Minimizing Mail Packages?

1997-07-30 Thread Igor Grobman
 HTML

I would appreciate it if you lose HTML tags.
 
 
 PHello All,
 
 PConnected intermittantly to internet using PPP to an ISP who uses POP3
 for mail.nbsp; I am attempting to minimize the number of packages needed
 to run mail.nbsp; It seems there are many mail packages but not a great
 deal of information on there interrelationships.
 
 PAm running on X the following Debian mail-related packages :nbsp; exim,
 fetchmail, mh and exmh with subsidiary packages of metamail and 
 mime-support.nbsp;
 I know one needs both mh and exmh to do mail processing if exmh is used.nbsp;
 Also POP3 support is needed for mail to and from the ISP.
 
 PAre exim and fetchmail also required?nbsp; Can one one just use mh
 and exmh by themselves to do all mail composing and handling as well as
 receiving and sending mail via POP3 to the ISP?
 

I don't believe there exists an mh tool that gets pop3 mail, so you need 
fetchmail, or some other pop3 client.  Exim is not actually required for a 
single user system.  If you are already using procmail for sorting, you may 
want to make fetchmail pass the mail directly to procmail (see the fetchmail 
manpage) rather than delivering it to port 25 (exim, in your case) which it 
does by default.  I believe you can also make fetchmail append directly to 
/var/spool/mail/user file, in case it is not possible, you can get fetchpop 
client which can do it.  This would let you get rid of exim.

 PI tried mutt and think it's great for subsidiary usage.

Now that you mention it, mutt has some POP3 support which I never tried.  I 
assume it's quite inflexible though, so I would recommend leaving fetchmail on 
your system.
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Re: Need help: Mail Setup

1997-07-30 Thread Igor Grobman
 Hi!
 
 I've got a problem:
 
 First: I'm new to Linux! :)

Welcome! :)
 
 I recently installed Debian. My system is connected to the internet via
 dialup-connection (ppp). I use 3 different Mail-accounts on 2 servers
 (POP3). I want linux to connect automaticly 4 times a day and download the
 mails of these account. The mails should delivered to 3 different logins on
 my maschine.
 
 How can I do this?


download fetchmail package, and read its manpage.  It can be configured to  
deliver to any number of local accounts easily.  You can then set up a cron 
job that would dial up your ISP, run fetchmail, and 'sendmail -q' (or 'smail 
-q' or runq or whatever depending on the mail program you have installed ) 
which delivers all outgoing mail to your isp's mail server provided you 
configured your Mail Transport Agent(MTA, examples: sendmail, smail, exim) 
correctly.

 
 (Btw: What to do that other user than root can dialup by 'pon'?)

put the user in group dip

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Re: question on bo-updates: found on ldso security update

1997-07-24 Thread Igor Grobman
 I was notified this morning about the recent CIAC security announcment
 on ld.so.  I went to my Debian mirror and found that the fix was
 already available under bo-updates directory.  I *thought* that since
 my system was up to date [i.e., v 1.3.1 + ] that I probably already
 had the fix incorporated.  But alas, I did not.

1.3.1 was released before this exploit was discovered.
 
 In fact, I found that there were about 20 .deb files in bo-update that
 do not show up automatically with dselect.  Apparently, bo-updates is
 not intended to be in the dselect tree unless the user incorporates it
 by hand?

The packages in bo-updates are there for testing by everyone, namely the 
testing group, and to be subsequently included into next release when 
sufficient testing has been done.  You are welcome to download and install 
them, but they will not appear in dselect until the next point release is made.


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Re: staroffice / netscape debian packages?

1997-07-15 Thread Igor Grobman
 
 Hi!
 
 It may have been asked before but I didnt find it in my messagebase
 (must have been flushed out already.):
 
 1) is there a staroffice debian package? if yes, where?


There is a staroffice installer package just uploaded to Incoming.  We are not 
allowed to distribute staroffice itself.
 
 2) is there a netscape debian package? if yes, where? does not have to
 be the newest version, more important is wether is runs stable

there is a netscape installer package for 3.01 in contrib, communicator is 
being worked on.

 
 3) does the dosemu supports Windows?

Not really.  There are a couple of win emulators available: wine and twin.  
Twin hasn't been packaged yet, but is being worked on, and wine is available 
in project/experimental.


 Is there a debian ppc in development? I look forward to buy a ppc
 based machine next year, either a CHRP or a Amiga successor ;-)


Yes there is.  AFAIK, they are  just getting started.
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Re: Mouse not responding (gpm)

1997-07-13 Thread Igor Grobman
 Has anyone had any problems with the mouse not responding?
 The mouse was/is working fine, (MS serial mouse), however
 when I attempt to load-up x-windows, the mouse does not 
 respond at all.
 
 I have checked the /etc/gpm.conf and tried other serial
 ports such as ttyS0 through ttyS3, and still nothing works.
 
 Any help to resolve this would be appreciated.


the way X accesses your mouse is specified in /etc/X11/XF86Config.  To make 
sure
gpm and X don't conflict, specify /dev/gpmdata as the mouse device in the 
pointer section of XF86Config, and add append=-R   in /etc/gpm.conf.  After 
restarting both X and gpm, everything should be working right.

 


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Re: Pre-newbie question: X configuration with Debian?

1997-07-12 Thread Igor Grobman
 I'm thinking of setting up a new Linux system with the Debian
 distribution, and was wondering if it includes anything for
 configuring X windows; I'd do almost anything to avoid hand
 editing an X config file (again).  I've searched the package list on
 Debian's web site for something like Xconfigurator, but to no avail.  
 How do Debian users usually handle this?


Standard X distribution comes with xf86config (textmode) and XF86Setup 
(graphical) setup utilities.  XF86Setup is in xserver-vga16 package, and 
xf86config is part of xbase, so you are bound to have it installed.

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Re: 1.3.1 upgrade: getting rid of the package base 1.1.0-13 -- dselect and downgrading dosemu

1997-07-10 Thread Igor Grobman
 
 Hi,
 
 i first installed Debian 1.1 (how was it called btw ?) and then
 upgraded some packages from rex, bo and hamm.  I did not upgrade the
 whole system with deselect as i had neither a CD reader nor a network
 connection.  So i could only use floppy disks to get and install some
 packages with dpkg.  Among the packages i upgraded were base 1.2 and
 base 1.3.  Now i have upgraded with dselect from a 1.3.1 CD and
 everything is going well except for two minor details:
 
  - dselect reports the package base 1.1.0-13 as obsolete but will not
purge it (neither will dpkg --purge) because it is an essential
package.  It does not stop me from working but it would be cleaner
if i could remove it. Removing its entry from the status file would
it be safe ?


NO NO NO!!  Don't try removing this package.  It owns all of your device 
files. Removing it will leave your system in a completely unusable state.  
Just leave that package as it is.

  - dselect did not downgrade the packages i had installed from hamm
except for dosemu.  I had dosemu_0.66.6-1 and now i have
dosemu_0.66.3-1 (the version in bo).

you can just upgrade back to hamm version.

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Re: XF86 3.3-3

1997-07-09 Thread Igor Grobman
I had a similar problem.  The reason was a corrupted ~/.Xauthority file.  Try 
deleting it, and relogging on.   That fixed it for me.

HTH
 
 I've seen other messages about XF86 3.3 not working.  I am also
 experiencing problems.  I upgraded from 3.2 using the 3.3-3 packages, and
 now when I try to startx, the screen flickers and goes black, and the
 keyboard locks up.  Nothing else.
 
 Unfortunately, because of the screen blanking, I really have no idea whats
 going wrong.  Someone else I know is having the exact same problem, I'm
 using the S3 server(#9 motion 771 card), and he's using standard SVGA for
 his Trident I believe.
 
 In any case, the XF86 3.3 packages are definitely broken.  I'd fill out a
 bug report, but unfortunately, I can't be any more specific than that
 right now.
 
 Do the package maintainers know that something is wrong?  I'd be happy to
 supply any info that I can.
 
 
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Re: Debian on Compaq Deskpro 6000

1997-07-09 Thread Igor Grobman
 
 Has anyone tried installing Debian 1.3 on a Compaq Deskpro 6000?  It loads
  the rescue disk then spontaneously reboots.  There's a howto for the
 Deskpro XL out there which I looked at but it didn't help.
 
 Alternative question:  Is there a way to get the kernel to not probe for
 an etherned card?  That's where I suspect it is bombing.

what you might want to do is compile a custom kernel which includes all needed 
drivers for that particular box, and replace the linux file on the rescue disk 
with the one you compiled.  Don't forget to compile ramdisk support into that 
kernel.  If you don't have a linux box around, contact me, and I will compile 
the kernel for you.

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Re: PPP dial-up script

1997-07-09 Thread Igor Grobman
 Frank Barknecht wrote:
 
 Here's my way: 
 I su to root and start the connection with 
 
 $ pon 
 
 This starts pppd with the chatscript directives I have stored in 
 /etc/ppp.chatscript. All normal debian-ppp usage!
 
 When I type pon, I get this:
 
 /dev/modem: unrecognized command
 pppd version 2.2 patch level 0
 Usage: /usr/sbin/pppd [ arguments ], where arguments are:
 
 and a list of arguments.
 
 I don't have a file called /etc/ppp.chatscript.  The HOW-TO I read
 (http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/PPP-HOWTO-15.html) specifies files
 called ppp-on, ppp-on-dialer and ppp-off (in /etc).
 
 Would simply having a correctly configured /etc/ppp.chatscript cause
 pon to operate correctly?  Or Do I have another config problem?  Or 
 something else I need to install?  BTW my PPP connection works fine
 when I start it manually with minicom and then start pppd.

you need to specify your modem's port in /etc/ppp.options_out. The modem port 
is one of /dev/ttyS* devices.  If your modem was on COM1 under dos, it would 
be /dev/ttyS0, COM2 would be /dev/ttyS1 and so on.  Attached is a sample 
ppp.options_out.

 
 Could you (or anyone else?) perhaps send me a working example of
 /etc/ppp.chatscript?

chatscripts are very simple.  They consist of expect: execute pairs.
attached is also a sample ppp.chatscript.  Note the \q in front of the 
password, it hides the pass from logs.




binK2Adfd4pEQ.bin
Description: ppp.chatscript


binDUF1GisNie.bin
Description: ppp.options_out
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Re: PPP problem with netscape and dselect

1997-07-09 Thread Igor Grobman
 I'm fairly new to unix from an administrator's point of view.  I set 
 up my PPP awhile ago and for the most part it works just fine.  But
 whenever I run netscape 3.0gold my connection hangs.  At first I
 thought it might be a problem with multiple connections, but
 I can run several telnet and/or ftp sessions without a problem.  
 Any ideas on how I can fix this?  ppp.log doesn't seem to help
 much either.

Looks like it's trying to look up some inexistent address.  Let it  hang for a 
while, and it should come back with url not found in DNS or something like 
that.  Then, modify preferences to load some sensible home page.  btw, 
communicator 4.01b6 works flawlessly here (no crashes yet!)

 
 The other question I had was regarding ftping through dselect.
 I noticed some other people had problems with it as well, but
 was wondering if anyone ever found a solution.


I've been using dselect's ftp method for a while.  could you explain what is 
your problem?



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Re: safely downgrading from hamm

1997-07-07 Thread Igor Grobman
 Hi,
 
 I have the following problem:
 
 The system was installed with debian-1.2 and since
 then someone installed a 'hamm' ld package, namely:
 
   ldso_1.9.2-3.deb
 
 Why someone did this I have no idea as there are no
 traces of any system admin documentation on the system.

None of the packages in bo should depend on this ldso, so someone must have 
tried to get something from hamm.

 
 I was trying to upgrade to the latest perl
 and when executing
 
   dpkg -i ldso_1.8.10-2.deb
 
 it output to console something about downgrading the package,
 chucked a fit and left the system hanging.

This bug has bitten a number of developers.  There is no safe way to downgrade 
ldso, and you shouldn't try it.

 
 This was just great! nothing would execute except for the
 alrady loaded shell stuff like 'echo' ... The system upon
 reboot would hang at the VFS ...  line.
 
 So I had to ftp to debian from the web server box,
 where I found in the 'unstable' 'hamm' section the above
 mentioned ldso_1.9.2-3.deb, unpack it with -x,
 tar it up, put it on a floppy along with 'tar',
 use a 'rescue' disk to boot the nameserver, mount the
 root partition somewhere and 'tar -cvf the hamm ld'
 then 'ldconfig -v', cross fingers, touch wood and
 reboot the box ... it came up.
 
 Now, I would very much like to first find out why
 does this system have the 'hamm' ld on it.  Is there
 some means of querying the debian system to find out
 what program/lib is depending on this 'ld'?

you can grep /var/lib/dpkg/status for packages that depend on it.

 
 And if there is no program/lib that _has_ to have this
 'hamm' 'ld'  I would like to know what is the *safest*
 way to downgrade to the stable ldso_1.8.10-2.deb.

I don't think there is a way to downgrade, but I don't believe this ld breaks 
anything (except if you try downgrading).

 
 
 
 Also, having this hamm ld is it going to interfere
 with un upgrade to 1.3.x ?

 
 I wanted to upgrade perl and I got 
 
 Preparing to replace perl 5.003.07-2 (using perl_5.003.07-10.deb) ...
 Unpacking replacement perl ...
 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of perl:
  perl depends on ldso (= 1.8.0-0); however:
   Package ldso is not configured yet.
 dpkg: error processing perl (--install):
  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
 Errors were encountered while processing:
  perl
 

try running dpkg --configure ldso

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Re: Can't open ./install.sh from rescue disk

1997-07-07 Thread Igor Grobman
 Hi --
 
 I'm trying to install Debian 1.3 from a set of 1.44 floppies; which
 contain a kernel compiled just for my setup by kind Susan Kleinmann (
 and based on 2.0.30 kernel).
 (Stock rescue floppy gets stuck on my aic7xxx driver...)
 Installation goes smoothly through setting up a color display, keyboard
 config (US-english), initializing and checking for bad blocks on
 /dev/sdb5 (swap), /dev/sdb6 (/), /dev/sda6 (/usr), /dev/sda7 (/var) and
 /dev/sdb7 (/usr) partitions and mounting filesystems. Next option is
 Install operating system kernel and modules. I hit Enter nad then
 answer Install from rescue floppy-or something to that effect- (which
 is in /dev/fd0 initially- and that initial message screen which comes up
 after booting recognizes it as /dev/fd0 1.44 Mb...) and use /dev/fd0.
 Instead of transferring kernel over to hard disk installation comes back
 with the message:
 Installing from the rescue floppy...
 ./install.sh: Can't open ./install.sh
 The attempt to extract the rescue floppy failed...
 Press ENTER when you are ready.
 

I was hit by this problem once.  What happens is the system reads the floppy 
drive (you see the light come on) and at the same time displays this message.  
If you hit enter before the light comes off, the drive would be unreadable, 
hence the error message.  Try waiting before the light on the floppy drive 
turns off.

This only happens on some boxes, it looks like.


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Re: Where can I get libtermcap.so.2 ?

1997-07-07 Thread Igor Grobman
 
 I did a 
 
 dpkg --search libtermcap.so.2
 
 and it couldn't find it.  Does that mean that it doesn't exist anywhere
 in the debian distribution?

No, this means that it is not installed on your system.  This library is 
included in termcap-compat package.

 
 Does anyone know where I can get it from?



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Re: Mail Reader Question

1997-07-07 Thread Igor Grobman

 There are plenty of linux apps who would let you read your mail without 
 moving it
 from your mailbox.  Mutt, pine, elm can do the job.  Tkmail is one that I can
 think of for X.
 
 Ok, I'll keep my keyboard open until someone makes a clear
 recomendation.

Everyone has their favorite, and you don't want to start a mailer war, do you? 
:)  I tried all of the above at one time.  Right now, exmh suits me best, but 
I am very fickle  with mailers :).


 
  I also can't get exmh PGP to work right,
 
 works for me.. could you elaborate?
 
 It reports correctly that I have two keys, but will not select
 just one to use. I select which key, and the error that there
 is more than one key for [EMAIL PROTECTED] comes up again and
 again.

sorry, no idea on this one, looks like a bug though, here is a chance try out 
the debian bug reporting system, if you haven't before. :)


 
  nor to have my base
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than the [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 This is a problem I have no idea how to solve.
 
 We'll see if anyone else comes up with anything. I don't like
 the idea of messing with the machines name... This is such a
 simple thing, I'm suprised that it's not clearly in the config
 menu.
 
 (it's not even in the config file)

I know, I've read through all exmh and mh manpages, and even looked through 
mh-papers, but there doesn't seem to be a solution out there.
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Re: Dependency problem got me stumped....

1997-07-07 Thread Igor Grobman
 
 I want to compile the kernel-29 or kernel-30 source and I want to be able
 to use make menuconfig. The problem is:
 
   kernel-source-2.0.29 suggests ncurses-dev (for menuconfig)
   kernel-source-2.0.29 recommends gcc
   ncurses-dev depends on libc5-dev
   gcc conflicts with libc5-dev


You must be getting packages from unstable.  Unstable gcc is configured to 
work with libc6, hence it conflicts with libc5-dev.  in order to compile with 
libc5 while using unstable, you need to get altgcc, libc5-altdev and other 
relevant altdev packages (ncurses3-altdev in this case).  However, you can 
just get the ncurses3.4-dev which is compiled with libc6 and you would not 
need to use any of alt* packages.  Unfortunately, ncurses3.4-dev is still 
stuck in the Incoming, I think.
 

 
 Now, I suppose that I *could* install the kernel and ncurses to *configure*
 and then remove ncurses and then install gcc to compile, but this is, as an
 associate likes to say, functional, yet dysfunctional. 


That wouldn't work, because you need to compile the menuconfig front end.


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Re: Installing debian

1997-07-06 Thread Igor Grobman
 I accidently removed my linux partition *GAAAH* ...
 anyway (after an couple of days depression ;)) I´d like to install debian
 again ... heres the problem...
 I destroyed my floppy =(is there ANYWAY(!) to install debian without
 floppy?? 

Of course :).  Download the following files from debian/stable/disks-i386:
root.bin
drv1440.bin
rsc1440.bin
base1_3.tgz
linux

you also need loadlin boot loader from debian/tools directory

Put them all in the same directory on your dos partition, and type in DOS 
prompt:
loadlin linux root=/dev/ram initrd=root.bin

and there you have it, a floppyless installation :).  Whenever the 
installation program asks you for base disks/modules/kernel floppies, point it 
to the dos partition where you have put the files you downloaded.



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Re: HELP!!! dpkg messed up X11 (?)

1997-07-05 Thread Igor Grobman
Looks like the installation of libc5, an essential package failed. Download it
from debian/stable/binary-i386/libs and install with dpkg -i libc5*deb
 


 Need Your Help:
 
 I was downloading some packages from stable so that
 I could try to build a custom kernel. While I was 
 downloading and installing (with dpkg), I got bored
 and wanted to play maelstrom - but mealstrom refused 
 to start, same for xtetris. Then dpkg reported it was
 having problems installing packages. Now,
 I cannot even start X - after logging in via xdm I 
 simply get back the xdm login screen.
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Re: HELP!!! dpkg messed up X11 (?)

1997-07-05 Thread Igor Grobman
 Igor Grobman wrote:
  
  Looks like the installation of libc5, an essential package failed. Download 
  it
  from debian/stable/binary-i386/libs and install with dpkg -i libc5*deb
  
 
 yup, that's what i tried right after my original post -
 and i tried it again after reading your reply - with
 the same result:
 
 I tried these libc5 packages in turn:
 
 libc5_5.4.20-1.deb (the one from my old cdrom)
 libc5_5.4.23-4.deb (the one in unstable)
 libc5_5.4.33-3.deb (the one in stable - 
 has the higher number than in the one in stable !?)

That a mistake by the maintainer, and archive maintainer is on vacation, so 
this problem never got corrected.  It will be corrected with next release of 
libc5, I assume.

  
 Always with the same error:
 
 ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/X11R6/lib/usr/lib/libc5-compat
 (No such file or directory), skipping


This is not the problem.  libc5 installs this directory, but it is empty, so 
that's why there is the error, I assume.  It shouldn't prevent you from 
running anything though.

 
 the upshot: x11 is still not running.
 in general, it seems that at least some of the shared 
 libraries cannot be found/loaded, despite the fact that they 
 clearly exist on the disk.
 in particular though: Which package creates the file
 /usr/X11R6/lib/usr/lib/libc5-compat ? 

see above.
 
 thanks for your tip. if you or other people on the list
 have any more suggestions, I would be very glad to hear 
 from you...

I looked over your original mail, and it states that you weren't able to load 
libraries other than libc5, I seem not to have noticed that :).  Make sure you 
have /usr/X11R6/lib in /etc/ld.so.conf, and if not add it there, and run 
lddconfig as root.
If this does not fix the problem, try getting the ldso package from unstable, 
as your problem might be due to a bug with altdev packages (packages for 
compiling  with libc5 on libc6 systems) recently discussed on debian-devel.


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Re: HELP!!! dpkg messed up X11 (?)

1997-07-05 Thread Igor Grobman
  That a mistake by the maintainer, and archive maintainer is on vacation, so 
  this problem never got corrected.  It will be corrected with next release 
  of 
  libc5, I assume.
  

   Always with the same error:
   
   ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/X11R6/lib/usr/lib/libc5-compat
   (No such file or directory), skipping
  
  
  This is not the problem.  libc5 installs this directory, but it is empty, 
  so 
  that's why there is the error, I assume.  It shouldn't prevent you from 
  running anything though.
 
 Wait a second, guys! I looked up the beginning of this discussion and
 noticed that you were downloading stable packages. I assume
 therefore that you have bo (or rex) installed. The problems you
 are mentioning are surely hamm - relevant. 

no, stable libc5 includes libc5-compat directory.  In fact, stable libc5 is of 
later version that the one in unstable for whatever reason.  I do have to 
retract my suggestion to install ldso from unstable, as downgrading back may 
cause a multitude of problems.  I just checked, and xpm4.7 (one of the 
libraries reported not to load) is symlinked to bo in hamm, and hasn't been 
updated for a while (since march 20), so my guess that this is the problem with
altdev packages is clearly wrong and upgrading to new ldso shouldn't be needed.

HTH.
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Re: dselect ftp hamm

1997-07-04 Thread Igor Grobman
 I have had no problems using dselect ftp to install files from all
 directories but hamm.  I answer the ftp prompts in an obvious fashion
 and voila everything works OK.
 
 What do I do to install files from /debian/hamm/hamm
 /debian/hamm/contrib and /debian/hamm/non-free?  That is, how do I
 answer the ftp prompts from dselect so that I can install the files from
 the above directories?  I've tried various answers to the prompts with
 no success.  It's driving me bananas.  Another of life's little
 mysteries.
 

Below is the patch you need to apply to /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp/install
Then, in access step of dselect, you have to choose debian/ as the top 
directory,  and  hamm/hamm hamm/contrib hamm/non-free as the distributions.



--- /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp/install.orig Thu Dec  5 07:37:13 1996
+++ /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp/install Wed Apr 16 01:47:34 1997
@@ -139,6 +139,7 @@
 print \nProcessing Package files...\n;
 my $dist;
 foreach $dist (@dists) {
+$dist =~ tr/\//_/;
 my $fn = Packages.$dist;
 if (-f $fn) {
print  $dist...\n;



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Re: dselect ftp hamm

1997-07-04 Thread Igor Grobman
 hello,
 
 Igor Grobman wrote:
  
   I have had no problems using dselect ftp to install files from all
   directories but hamm.  I answer the ftp prompts in an obvious fashion
   and voila everything works OK.
  
   What do I do to install files from /debian/hamm/hamm
   /debian/hamm/contrib and /debian/hamm/non-free?  That is, how do I
   answer the ftp prompts from dselect so that I can install the files from
   the above directories?  I've tried various answers to the prompts with
   no success.  It's driving me bananas.  Another of life's little
   mysteries.
  
  
  Below is the patch you need to apply to 
 
 are all install problems patched in 1.3.1?

I don't believe this particular problem is fixed in 1.3.1  There weren't any 
new
releases of dpkg-ftp other than those in experimental.  This particular 
problem only affects downloading from unstable, however, and shouldn't ever 
cause any problems with stable.


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Re: /etc/resolv.conf has wrong permissions

1997-06-24 Thread Igor Grobman
 
 
 On Sun, 22 Jun 1997, George Bonser wrote:
 
   However, /etc/resolv.conf is installed with or modified to root/root 
   -rw--- permissions.  This
   sounds logical until a normal user tries to dial out.  It was weird, my 
   normal account would dial and 
   login ok, but all of the net calls would show a Host name lookup 
   failure.  I could even su to root
   and things would work fine.
  
  Interesting.  On my 1.1 upgraded to 1.2 and then to 1.3 system the file is
  
  -rw-r--r--  and owned by root.root
 
 Mine (installed 1.3) also has these permissions and ownership.  Strangely,
 `dpkg -S /etc/resolv.conf` shows no owning package.
 

That's because this file is either created during the configure the network 
phase of the initial setup (bootdisks) or isn't created at all.  This problem 
probably existed in one of the older bootdisk versions.  The permissions are 
fine on both of my machines (one originally 1.1, other 1.3).

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Re: talk ntalk

1997-06-19 Thread Igor Grobman
On Jun 18, Obi wrote
 
 Hi all,
 
 I'm sorry if this is a FAQ, but I couldn't find it ... I have problem with  
 the talk command. From my Debian 1.3 laptop, there is no way to talk to 
 somebody else. I tried on a SunOS, on another Linux box (slackware) but with 
 no luck: the talk sits with a Checking for invitation on a caller's machine.

You have a connection with dynamic IP, right?  In order to use talk in these 
circumstances, you need to change your hostname to one that corresponds to your
IP.  Something like line43.yourprovider.net.  The command for changing hostname 
is hostname, so to make it work, you have to type 
hostname line43.yourprovider.net
You can do this from your ip-up script to make sure you have talk always working


 
 If from the SunOS/Slackware box I do a talk to my machine, same problem, but 
 if I do a ntalk I got the message on my Debian machine, but I cannot answer 
 (I 
 guess that ytalk/talk does not understand the ntalk protocol).

Both of them do understand ntalk protocol.  However, suns have their ntalk/talk
ports switched as opposed to linux.  Your /etc/services file should containt the
following lines:

talk517/udp
ntalk   518/udp

On suns, talk would be port 518 and ntalk is 517.  The solution is to fix this 
problem on one of the ends.


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Re: Upgrade to Xfree 3.3

1997-06-19 Thread Igor Grobman
On Jun 19, Will Lowe wrote
 
 I need to upgrade to 3.3 'cuz 3.2 doesn't support my video card (Diamond 
 3D 3000) very well.  ... I was gonna upgrade with the packages in 
 /unstable/x11/ ... do I need anything other than xbase and xS3V/SVGA?  
 I'm not terribly worried about upgrading all my applications unless it's 
 necessary to use the new Xfree release.
 

you also need the new xlib6. 

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Re: 1.3 Installation Report

1997-05-30 Thread Igor Grobman
On May 29, Bruce Perens wrote
 
 From: Che Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Pretty much everything went well -- the biggest surprise was that
  the base disks, although there were 5 of them, offered *much* more
  functionality this time around than ever before. Having elvis was
  lovely
 
 That's not Elvis, it's an Elvis impersonator! If I'm not mistaken
 it's actually a macro file for ae to emulate vi!

Bruce, you must have missed the latest editor war while on vacation! :).  As a
result, we have elvis-tiny (the reduced elvis) on the base disks (no
impersonators! ).

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Re: ftape problems

1997-05-30 Thread Igor Grobman
Thanks for your response!

I tracked the problem down to ECC failures.  Here is what happens: first time
after format, the ftape gives ECC failures, but taper (the app I was using)
told me that it saw unknown data, and asked me if it should overwrite it...
before I made the connection between the ECC failures and taper unknown data
error, I always picked overwrite, and after that the tape worked fine except
very slow due to write errors.

Anyway, the HOWTO states that this problem  (ECC failure) can be caused by
either bad ethernet or video card.  I tried to unload my ethernet card's
module, and it did not help.  Do I have to physically take it out to make sure
it's not at fault, or can I now safely assume that video card is the guilty one
here?

The video card is Cirrus Logic CLGD5434 and ethernet card is some very cheap
ne2000 clone.


On May 28, Christian Meder wrote
 
 On May 28, Igor Grobman wrote
  I recently got myself a Seagate Tapestor3200 TR3/QIC 3020 tape drive.  It 
  works
  fine under DOS, however when I try to backup anything in Linux, I get the
  following errors:
  
  May 28 19:43:36 whoever kernel: [047]ftape-write.c (ftape_write_segment) -
  write error, retry 1 (399).
  May 28 19:43:46 whoever kernel: [048]ftape-write.c (ftape_write_segment) -
  write error, retry 1 (415).
  May 28 19:44:42 whoever kernel: [049]ftape-write.c (ftape_write_segment) -
  write error, retry 1 (615).
  
  I get tons of messages like this in my /var/adm/messages, and I hear the 
  tape
  start and stop moving all the time, instead of moving continuously as it 
  does
  under DOS.  I tried using it with both zftape and ftape devices, but I still
  get the same errors.  I am using ftape-3.03 from sunsite.  Is this a known
  ftape-driver bug? HOWTO seems to imply that all drives conforming to QIC TR*
  standards should work, and AFAIK, my model is pretty standard.
  
  Thanks in advance for the help.
 
 Hi,
 
 I uploaded a ftape-2.0.30_3.03 debian package to unstable on master a
 couple of weeks ago. So if you are running 2.0.30 you don't have to
 compile yourself ;-)
 
 In 1 or 2 days I will upload the bugfix 3.03a ftape for
 2.0.30. Perhaps you should try the bugfix release.
 
 I can't really comment on your specific problem as ftape is working
 fine for my Iomega Ditto 800. I think the messages indicate that there
 were write errors on different segments of your tape but the retries
 succeded. You could try to format your tape with the new ftape-3.03
 but it takes approx. 4 hours. 
 
 Otherwise send me an email with the messages and we can try to figure
 it out (I can forward it to dev.linux.tape)
 
 Greetings,
 
   Christian  
 
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Re: 1.3 Installation Report

1997-05-30 Thread Igor Grobman
On May 29, Bruce Perens wrote
 
 From: Igor Grobman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Bruce, you must have missed the latest editor war while on vacation! :).
  As a result, we have elvis-tiny (the reduced elvis) on the base disks (no
  impersonators! ).
 
 Oh. I hope nobody gets too used to it - eventually I'd like to shrink
 that disk some more so that I can get PPP and FTP on it, so that we can
 do a one-floppy install via FTP.

Note that I said on the base disks.  Rescue disk still has the good old
ugly ae on it :).

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ftape problems

1997-05-28 Thread Igor Grobman
I recently got myself a Seagate Tapestor3200 TR3/QIC 3020 tape drive.  It works
fine under DOS, however when I try to backup anything in Linux, I get the
following errors:

May 28 19:43:36 whoever kernel: [047]ftape-write.c (ftape_write_segment) -
write error, retry 1 (399).
May 28 19:43:46 whoever kernel: [048]ftape-write.c (ftape_write_segment) -
write error, retry 1 (415).
May 28 19:44:42 whoever kernel: [049]ftape-write.c (ftape_write_segment) -
write error, retry 1 (615).

I get tons of messages like this in my /var/adm/messages, and I hear the tape
start and stop moving all the time, instead of moving continuously as it does
under DOS.  I tried using it with both zftape and ftape devices, but I still
get the same errors.  I am using ftape-3.03 from sunsite.  Is this a known
ftape-driver bug? HOWTO seems to imply that all drives conforming to QIC TR*
standards should work, and AFAIK, my model is pretty standard.

Thanks in advance for the help.

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Re: ppp packet errors

1997-05-24 Thread Igor Grobman
On May 23, Lindsay Allen wrote
 
 
 I used to get excellent ppp transfers, but of late I get errors and
 the modem lights often cease activity for several seconds at a time.
 ppp version is 2.2.0f-23.
 
 ifconfig shows:-
 ppp0  Link encap:Point-Point Protocol  
   inet addr:203.59.0.18  P-t-P:203.59.24.26  Mask:255.255.255.0
   UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING  MTU:552  Metric:1
   RX packets:27767 errors:524 dropped:524 overruns:0
   TX packets:14018 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0


Do you have irqtune installed and configured to give your modem (serial port,
actually) the first priority.  I used to get a lot of errors like this before I
discovered irqtune.  It is in the hwtools package, btw.

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#debian irc channel

1997-05-24 Thread Igor Grobman
Greetings,

Just wanted to remind you that #debian channel is still available.  In the last
month it grew quite a bit.  We usually have at least a couple of
developers on to answer your questions, and to simply chat on various
debian-related topics.  #debian is available on undernet and linpeople, the two
channels are linked via eggdrop bots, so no matter which network you use,
you'll get to talk to everyone that is currently on.  

For a list of undernet servers, go to http://www.undernet.org, or try
us.undernet.org server which will connect you to a random US server.
For a list of linpeople servers, see http://www.linpeople.org, or connect to
irc.linpeople.org. 

See you on #debian!
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Re: Q: Update from 1.2 to 1.2.14!

1997-05-14 Thread Igor Grobman
On May 13, Timothy Phan wrote
 
 Hi,
 
   I'm new user of the Debian distribution and I've purchased a
   1.2 CD a while back and had some problem installed some of
   the packages onto my system.  I'd like to know:
 1. How do I upgrade this broken 1.2 system to the 1.2.14.

Well, there are 2 ways: either use dpkg -i from the prompt, or use dselect.


 2. How do I find out what are the updated/changed packages.

Dselect will download the updated changes for you automatically.  If you want
to do it the dpkg way, then you will find all updated packages in
/debian/rex-updates.  Download and install them.



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Re: deb-make-question: where/what is DESTDIR?

1997-05-14 Thread Igor Grobman
On May 14, Johann Spies wrote
 
 Please excuse my lack of understanding. 
 
 I am trying to use the deb-make-package and in the documention the
 instruction is
 
 3. Make any modifications to get the program to compile. If the makefile
 is set up to install in DESTDIR, then you will only
 need to make minor changes to debian/rules (DESTDIR is set
 in debian/rules to make sure things go into the right place).

Well, many upstream programs come with a makefile that automatically installs
everything in DESTDIR.  If your upstream program's makefile doesn't contain it,
you will have to make the necessary modifications in order to make sure
everything is installed into debian/tmp.   

 
 I found the variable DESTDIR nowhere in rules or in the
 debian-directory created by deb-make.

Look in the binary-arch target of debmakes's default rules file.  there is an
 make install DESTDIR=`pwd`/debian/tmp  line there.  That's what the doc is
describing.

 
 I do not know what modifications I should make to get the program to
 compile. I do not know what the compilation process needs.
 
 I feel stupid asking this questions as the documentation is supposed
 to help the first time packager to quote the documentation. 

The packaging documentation is not close to being good yet, but we are working 
on it.

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Re: X configuration

1997-05-10 Thread Igor Grobman
Also make sure that the dimensions of virtual (in the Screen section of
/etc/X11/XF86Config) are divisible by 32. 


On May 9, Brian N. Borg wrote
 
 If your monitor is as old as the rest or your equipment, it could
 be the result of a long persistence phosphor.
 
 --Brian
 
 
 Kyriakos Nikos E. Gorogiannis wrote:
  
  Hi.
  
   I have an EISA 486, with an ISA 16-bit TIGA gr. card, with and onboard
  Tseng ET4000 SVGA chip. I have configured XF86_SVGA, with the correct
  settings about monitor and graphics adapter (one can never be too sure,
  but i have tripple-checked the configuration). However, window borders
  leave traces when moved and button borders frequently appear distorted
  and/or leave traces on screen. What can i do?
  
   And something secondary: if you know ways to speed-up this old VGA by
  configuring X differently (without upgrading, that is) i would be very
  gratefull.
  
   Thanks in advance and sorry, if i'm too irrelevant with the contents of
  the list, but i'm really new at this.
 
 
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Re: How to trick debian into thinking a package is installed

1997-05-10 Thread Igor Grobman
There used to exist 2 utilities called deb2asc and asc2deb which were very
useful for this kind of thing.  They were part of debmake at one time then were
moved to adpkg, and after adpkg's removal from distribution seem to have
disappeared.  

Christoph, 
would you put them back into debmake or anywhere else for that matter?  These
utilities are truly useful for creating dummy packages.

With those utilities available, you would just need to create a text file
containing something like this:

%control
Package: dummy
Version: 1.0
Provides: motif, tetex 

(and some more standard control file lines)

Then you run asc2deb, and a .deb package is built. 

On May 9, Steve Hsieh wrote
 
 
 Hi,
 
 Can someone tell me how I can trick debian into thinking that a package is
 installed?  Specifically, I have the real motif installed on my system. 
 However, since this is (obviously) not a debian package, debian has no
 idea that I have it.  And so if I try to install the xmcd package, it
 refuses to install because lesstif isn't installed, but I can't install
 lesstif without overwriting the real motif...  I guess I could also use
 the --force-depends option in dpkg to force an install?
 
 So my questions are;
 
 1. what's the dirty way to modify the config files so debian thinks
 lesstif is installed?
 
 2. if I create my own binary .deb package with my motif binaries inside
 it, how do I change the control file so it provides lesstif? 
 
 On a side note, motif apps really ought to require a motif package, and
 lesstiff should provide motif, as opposed to packages directly requiring
 lesstif.
 
 Steve
 
 
 
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Re: gpm configuration and mc question

1997-05-10 Thread Igor Grobman
On May 10, Bob Nielsen wrote
 
 Also, mc seems to require libgpm.so.1  This isn't installed by mc or gpm.
 What package contains it?  mc installed without any dependency errors, but
 I get the message when trying to run it can't load library libgpm.so.1.

You need to install libgpm1 package.

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Re: dpkg question

1997-05-09 Thread Igor Grobman
On May 9, Ryan Shaw wrote
 Check our new domain names!
 http://www.netforward.com
 v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v
 
 in redhat there are source packages and binary packages.  one may
 download the source package and use `rpm --rebuild package name' to
 build binary packages from that.  quite easy, and useful in my case. 
 the gcc that shipped with redhat didn't function correctly on my AMD K5
 so i had to recompile it and then install the locally compiled package.
 
 is there any feature like this in dpkg/debian?  i noticed there aren't
 any source packages per se, but there were .orig.tar.gz files.
 
 how would i accomplish what i described above with debian/dpkg?

You need to get .orig.tar.gz, .diff.gz and .dsc files.  Then type 
dpkg-source -x name-of-package.dsc

This will unpack a debianized source into a package-version directory.  cd
there and type

debian/rules binary

The .deb will be built in the dir a step above current.

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cdrom mounting problems

1997-04-23 Thread Igor Grobman
I am trying to help my friend install debian.  He is getting the following
error when dselect tries to mount his cdrom:

mount: /dev/hdd has wrong major or minor number
   unable to mount /dev/hdd on /var/lib/dpkg/methods/mnt
   type iso9660

Anyone know what major/minor number mean?
By the way, his cdrom is recognized by the kernel on boot.

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Re: Slirp

1997-03-21 Thread Igor Grobman
On Thu, 20 Mar 1997, Pete Poff wrote:

 Hi,
  I've gotten and compiled slirp.  It works, I guess.  For me to 
 access my slip account I have to dail into a place called Socket and it 
 give me a slip account.  Will slirp dail into Socket?  Also after I've 
 opened out do I get it to run in the back ground?

Why do you think you would need slirp?? Slirp is needed when you have a
shell account and you want to emulate the SLIP connection, AFAIK.  It is
not needed when your provider provides you the SLIP connection.  Try dip.
It is included in netbase.  As for putting it into the background... if
you need it to be in the background from the start then just add 
without the quotes to the commandline, and if you need to put into the
background later, after you do something manually, then type ctrl-Z to put
the program that is in the foreground to the background.   

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Re: ftp with new debian install

1997-03-18 Thread Igor Grobman
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On Tue, 18 Mar 1997, Brian Freeze wrote:

 I wrote this list last week with this question but I still have not found
 the answer.
 
 Problem:  ftp out of the new system has major delays after username requested.
 
 All other services work fine on the system. I can ftp in with know delays. I
 can telnet into and out of the new system.
 
 Things checked:
 
 1) resolve.conf and hosts files have been checked against the other debian
 system I have. It is debian 1.0 and the new system is the current release.

just to make sure:
are the nameservers listed in this form?

nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx

If not, it might well be the source of the problem.  Otherwise I have no
idea what it could be.


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Re: GNU/Linux 1.2, help please!

1997-03-13 Thread Igor Grobman
On Thu, 13 Mar 1997, val.tamarov wrote:

 Hi there!
 Thanks for reading this!
 Need help !!!
 I just got myself GNU/Linux 1.2 from sunsite.unc.edu and I was trying to
 install it on my computer.
 I have Pentium Pro 200Mhz, 2.12GB, 452Kb hard drives and 40 Mb of RAM. I am
 currently using System Commander to separate operating systems. I had
 win95, DOS 6.22 as my boot options before installing Linux. Then I
 installed Linux on drive D (452Mb), and everything was fine. After
 rebooting I got new boot option : Linux (cool), but when I tried to boot
 to Linex System Commander gave me an error message:
 The selected operating system appears to have a defective boot record. The
 normal boot signature is missing. There was an option to Boot as-is,
 when I clicked on it my PC just stopped doing any thing. Then I rebooted
 from bootable floppy which I created during Linux installation, and
 everything went fine. Linux booted from floppy and I was prompted to create
 an boot password, then create regular account, user name and password for
 it, and dselect. So I assumed that booting from floppy is doing fine and I
 installed Linux properly.  Then I rebooted again from Rescue disk and went
 right to option Make Linux bootable from hard disk and got message LILO
 wasn't able to install. You'll still be able to boot your system if you
 create a boot floppy but it won't be able to boot without a floppy. The
 most common reason for LILO to fail is an over-large root (/) partition.
 LILO is unable read any block of the kernel from a disk cillinder numbered
 higher than 1023. This is often a problem with disk larger than a Gigabyte
 or so. One way to solve the problem is to make a separate / and /usr
 disk partition, so that the entire / partition will be below the 1023
 cillinder.  I checked my hard disks and 2.12GB has 1023 cillinders and
 452KB has 1018 cillinders. But I decided to repartitioned my disk anyway.
 So I created 50KB partition on drive D as root and I marked it Bootable,
 350KB partition as /usr, 52KB partition as swap and reinstalled the Linux
 from very beginning, but the same problem occur. I still be able to boot it
 from boot floppy but not from the HD.

Do you still get the same error message from Lilo when you try to install
it after the repartitioning?  Could you send me the contents of your
/etc/lilo.conf please?
I do have System Commander installed, and running with no problems, so it
looks like this is not where the problems are coming from.

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Re: Slip Acount Dialer

1997-03-10 Thread Igor Grobman
On Mon, 10 Mar 1997, Pete Poff wrote:

 Hi,
   I was wondering if there is a slip acount dialer program that 
 could allow me to connect to my socket slip acount and be able to use the 
 programs like ftp and telnet?

Try dip.  It is included in netstd package.

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Re: SVGATextMode...

1997-03-07 Thread Igor Grobman
Hi, I am the maintainer of SvgaTextMode...

On Fri, 7 Mar 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 (1) Please could someone confirm that the latest version of SVGATextMode is 
 1.4
 (or am I missing something out)

Yes.
 
 (2) I seem to have a problem configuring my SVGATextMode program. For a start 
 I
 have a cirrus Logic GP-5446 Card and this in not listed amongs the list of
 supported cards (XFREE does) Also, could someone with a cirrus logic car, who
 has SVGATextMode running mail me their TextConfig file ...


I do have Cirrus Logic card, but it is CLGD542x chipset, which is
supported.  Yours seems to be unsupported.  I gather you don't like having
a generic VGA chipset which is set by default, but I don't think you have
any other options.  

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Re: Bug with libraries? -I'm having this problem!

1997-02-20 Thread Igor Grobman
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On Wed, 19 Feb 1997, Daniel Robbins wrote:

 On Wed, 19 Feb 1997, John T. Larkin wrote:
 
  Two friends of mine receintly installed the stable Debian distribution,
  and both had the same problem.  (One installed about 2 months ago, the
  other 2 days ago from an updated mirror).  
  The file /etc/ld.so.conf did _not_ include the line:
  /usr/X11R6/lib
  
  This was bad; everything linked with the x libraries couldn't run
  since they couldn't find the libraries.  They had installed a bunch of
  X packages, so one of the packages should have been responsable for making 
  sure that this line was added to /etc/ld.so.conf, correct?
  
 
 I'm having a similar problem!  My new Debian installation is up and 
 running, and Afterstep and Fvwm95-2 can't start because they can't find 
 libXpm.so.4 or something like that.  I am a beginner, so I have no idea 
 on how to fix this problem.  I'll take a look at /etc/ld.so.conf and see 
 if I can figure it out.  Could you post a solution (fix) to this problem?
 
 Thanks,

All you need to do is put the line that he posted in /etc/ld.so.conf 
The line is:
/usr/X11R6/lib
This is a known bug, and I believe, has finally been fixed in 1.2.7 .

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Re: Unstable vs. Stable

1997-02-20 Thread Igor Grobman
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On Thu, 20 Feb 1997, Daniel Robbins wrote:

 On 19 Feb 1997, Rob Browning wrote:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John T. Larkin) writes:
  
   This was bad; everything linked with the x libraries couldn't run
   since they couldn't find the libraries.  They had installed a bunch of
   X packages, so one of the packages should have been responsable for 
   making 
   sure that this line was added to /etc/ld.so.conf, correct?
  
  Yes, this has been fixed in unstable.
 
 Could someone please explain to me the difference between the unstable 
 and stable directories?  Since it seems like all the bug fixes go in 
 unstable, isn't the unstable stuff more stable than stable? 

Unstable is the beta directory.  It contains all the latest releases of
debian packages.  You are free to download anything from there, just be
aware that it might be buggy.  However, due to the problems we've been
having (lack of testing mainly), the stable distribution can be seen as
less stable than unstable, but we are in the process of fixing it.  BTW,
the ld.so.conf bug is fixed in 1.2.7 which hasn't reached all the mirrors
yet.

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Re: Debian installation

1997-02-19 Thread Igor Grobman
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On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, Shaya Potter wrote:

 On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, Bruce Perens wrote:
 
  OK - I went back a few messages and you did show us your partition table.
  
 Boot  Begin Start  End  Blocks  System
   /dev/hda1  *   1 1   163   82120+ Linux native
   /dev/hda2164   164   244   40824  Linux swap
   
   /dev/hda3245   245  1260  512064  Linux native
   /dev/hda4   1024  1261  2484  616896  Extended
  
  Am I reading this right? Could the extended partition in hda3 be
  overlapping the one in hda4? I see hda3 ending at 1260 and hda4
  beginning at 1024. I think the problem is that I don't understand
  extended partitions, and thus I don't see what the difference is
  between begin and start.
  
   /dev/hda5   1024  1261  1870  307408+ Linux native
   /dev/hda6   1024  1871  2484  309424+ Linux native
 
 Something is wrong here.  If Extended means what it does in the dos world 
 i.e. as opposed to primary, something is very wrong.  hda1-4 should be 
 primary and hda5-... would be extended.  This means that when it says 
 Extended, Extended is a type, such as linux native, dos fat, HPFS, NTFS.

No, not exactly.  Extended partition itself has to be primary, that is,
one of the first four.  Inside the extended partition, you can create
as many logical drives (what people usually call extended partitions) as
you want to.  The strange thing is that begin and start numbers don't
coincide.  They do coincide for every partition on my machine, which has a
similar setup.  I would guess fdisk docs might explain why this would
happen

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Re: minor DNS problem

1997-02-18 Thread Igor Grobman
[sorry if you get this twice, I had problems sending it out the first
time]

On Mon, 17 Feb 1997, Andrew Spencer wrote:

 
 hi all,
 
 Sorry to come back to the list again. Just a little glitch really, but it
 has me stumped... I can't get IP name resolution working properly. (All I
 want to do is resolve IP addresses using an available nameserver.)
 
 I can connect to machines on the local ethernet fine, using numeric IP
 addresses (can't see outside the local domain, due to the firewall, but
 that's another story..). Also, I can connect using name instead of number
 for a couple of machines I put into /etc/hosts by hand. 
 
 My /etc/host.conf file says
   order hosts,bind
   multi on
 
 and /etc/resolv.conf says
   search bath.ac.uk
   nameserver 138.38.32.3,138.38.32.46


These are wrong.  they should look like this:

nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx

The way they are configured by default doesn't work.  It is a known bug,
BTW.

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