Re: How does Cron send email?
On Wed, 21 Feb 2007, Grok Mogger wrote: I have read the cron manpage. I understand what cron mails and under what conditions it mails it, what I don't understand is HOW it mails it. I know that cron just sends the output of whatever script it runs. I don't understand how it mails that output. I'd like to understand how it does that so that I can make it send email to a gmail account or a similar real Internet account. Through /usr/sbin/sendmail (which you will have even if you use a mail transfer agent other than sendmail such as exim or postfix.) Are you telling me that if I set my MAILTO entry to something like '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', that's actually going to send legitimate Internet mail to Joe at his gmail account? I find that hard to believe. Assuming your MTA is correctly configured to send mail to the internet, sure, why not? -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian dspam as postfix content filter?
Has anyone successfully implemented dspam as a postfix content filter? I've followed the instructions in README.postfix and while mail is being filtered by dspam, 100% of it is marked as innocent. Which kind of defeats the purpose of a spam filter don't you think? I suspect the debian package is broken but If you have got this working, please reply with a detailed HOWTO. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian dspam as postfix content filter?
On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, Joshua J. Kugler wrote: I've implemented dspam on a Debian system. Have you trained dspam yet? Um I think so... It will not filter out of the box, it must be trained. I have used dspam_train (the web frontend does not work out of the box) with balanced amounts of ham and spam. Running: $ dspam_stats -H jaldhar as myself gives me nothing. $ sudo dspam_stats -H jaldhar works. (which leads me to suspect a permissions problem.) It gives me: jaldhar: TP True Positives: 5196 TN True Negatives: 8935 FP False Positives: 1 FN False Negatives: 274 SC Spam Corpusfed: 79 NC Nonspam Corpusfed: 0 TL Training Left: 0 SHR Spam Hit Rate 94.99% HSR Ham Strike Rate:0.01% OCA Overall Accuracy: 98.09% Which suggests dspam is trained does it not? So I think for some reason dspam is simply not using its spam-fighting voodoo. What could it be? Unfortunately even running it with debugging turned on tells me nothing. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian dspam as postfix content filter?
On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, Joshua J. Kugler wrote: OK, it believes it's catching spam. Do you have it set to quarantine, or simply pass the mail with something in the headers indicating Spam? I have set it up to include the word SPAM in the subject. And it adds an X-DSPAM header to every mail noting if it is innocent or (in theory) spam. yet just today I have received some 480 pieces of spam marked innocent. That doesn't sound like 98.09% accuracy to me! -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: has webmin disapeared on Etch/Sid?
On Sat, 18 Feb 2006, Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote: Ok, let's say I'll try to take it. - Where could I find the latest source package? I am _not_ going to rebuild the entire package. - I switch to the mentors mailing list. Some people have expressed an interest in picking webmin up. See http://webmin.alioth.debian.org/ and join the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. I'm sure they would appreciate any help you can give. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Replacement for webmin in Debian? was: Debian Weekly News - January 17th, 2006
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: but webmin is packaged for debian (package webmin) http://packages.debian.org/stable/admin/webmin --at least for stable that I am using. I recently asked that it be removed from unstable (and hence future releases) because the packages were buggy, I wasn't motivated to work on it and no one else has ever cared enough to help. Use the upstream tarball for future updates. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with Defoma (Installing Hindi fonts in Debian)
On Wed, 21 Sep 2005, Saurabh Nanda wrote: Hi, I've downloaded Akshar.ttf (unicode hindi font) and want to install it 'system-wide', i.e. all applications installed on the system should be able to use it. Btw, did you know about the ttf-devanagari-fonts package? It contains unicode fonts for Hindi. Is this Akshar.ttf free by Debian standards? If so we may want to add it to the package. defoma-hints Can't locate FreeType.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.4 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.4 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at (eval 3) line 2. [EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]$locate FreeType.pm Looks like you are missing libft-perl -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Webmin-maintainers] Re: Problem with webmin-exports
On Tue, 20 Sep 2005, Nils Erik Svangård wrote: Ok I solved this problem partly. It seems that NFS exports is per filesystem, I exported /mnt, where my disks is mounted. I had to export each individual filesystem. This is common knowledge when dealing with NFS, I hadnt a clue. The problem with webmin-exports still remains. It doesnt work. /nisse sorry I haven't responded sooner but I'm just about to package webmin 1.230 and I'll look into it. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: webmin will not update
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005, Maurice O'Regan wrote: someone siggested using a newew version from 'unstable'. I'm the Debian maintainer of webmin btw. How do I do that ? Actually, I should have asked first. Is there any particular reason you need the very latest version? 1.180 is perfectly adequate you know. Search the archives of this list for pointers on Apt pinning if you absolutely must mix and match stable and unstable packages. But if you are a newbie as it appears you are, you should think long and hard before doing something that could compromise the stability of your system. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: webmin will not update
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005, Maurice O'Regan wrote: The version of Webmin which downloaded by default on a complete new denian 3.1, actuall had little or no functionality, like the older ver .94 had, after a fresh install. ie no Server Tab , in fact almost nothing useful. As soon as .94 was updated from within itself, then it had 'everything' The ver 1.180 as downloaded seems to have little or no functionality, or perhaps I am missing something by way of configuration ?? Ah now I understand the problem. The upstream webmin tarball is split up into many smaller Debian packages, usually one module per package. The package webmin just contains the basic webmin functionality. If you use a package manager like aptitude and search for webmin you'll see lots of packages like webmin-mysql, webmin-postfix, webmin-ldap-useradmin etc. Just install the ones you need. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: webmin upgrade problem
On Tue, 28 Jun 2005, Maurice O'Regan wrote: Using fresh install of Debian 3.1, followed by apt-get install webmin, I get Webmin version 1.180 However, when I use its Upgrade Webmin function I get: module proc does not exist Do you have webmin-core installed as well? Anyway you shouldn't be doing that. webmin 1.210 is in unstable use apt-get to install that. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I need help from webmin-samba users
If you use webmins' samba module I need your help. There's a few bugs on webmin-samba which have been open for a while and I am eager to fix them but not being a regular samba user anymore, its not that easy. Take a look at: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=webmin-samba If you have something to add to any of these bugs (or best of all a patch :-) please send mail to the bug report and CC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thankyou. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Webmin-firewall produces perl error after apt-get upgrade
On Sun, 5 Jun 2005, ponga wrote: webmin-firewall - version 1.200-1 webmin - version 1.200-1 Thank you for any input! Do you have webmin-core installed? -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Webmin-firewall produces perl error after apt-get upgrade
On Mon, 6 Jun 2005, Martin Mewes wrote: Hi, Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : On Sun, 5 Jun 2005, ponga wrote: webmin-firewall - version 1.200-1 webmin - version 1.200-1 Thank you for any input! Do you have webmin-core installed? Isn't this a dependency? Actually no, but it looks like it should be. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian retail kit?
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004, David Mandelberg wrote: Depends on how much longer the hot babe/LCC/blob threads are going to last. :) 'last'? That implies that there will be an end. Luckily the Debian developers are wise enough to know that we are supposed to be running an operating system not a debating club but it does give outsiders the unfortunate impression of fiddling while Rome fails to release. That's not good. Hot-babe and LCC may have relatively simple solutions, but as long as there are corporations that want more money and free software isn't as profitable as proprietary software, the blob issue probably won't stop. From Debians point of view it is an open and shut case. If it is non-free it can't go in main. I sympathize with the rearguard who are trying to say blobs are not software but they haven't got much of a leg to stand on I'm afraid. Also, blob and hot-babe wouldn't hold up sarge, blob is not directly related to Debian and if hot-babe is delayed it will just be put into etch instead of being rushed into sarge. Please correct me if I'm wrong, I haven't been following the threads that closely. No you're right I suppose. Still its scant comfort for those who are eagerly waiting for sarge. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian retail kit?
On Sat, 11 Dec 2004, Ron Johnson wrote: 2005, or 2006, when Sarge ships? :/ Depends on how much longer the hot babe/LCC/blob threads are going to last. :) -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: webmin sendmail not working Debian Woody
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004, Steven Jones wrote: piffle...sendmail works fine, real easy to add in clamav/clamav-milter ...and rootkits :-) as well, far easier than postfix. eh six of one and half a dozen of the other I suppose. I've used sendmail, exim, and postfix. I prefer postfix. None of them are particularly hard for everyday uses. But Postfix's more modern design make me feel better. MS's NT stands for new technology are you suggesting because its newer than unix we should swap to it? No newness isn't a good reason. Which is why I used the word modern. Sendmail is a crufty mess oatched up with lots of bandaids (the .mc versus .cf thing being a prime example.) For historical reasons it had to be that way but we have learnt things since then. Also the webmin sendmail (o) options in Sarge 3.1 edits the sendmail.cf directly and not the .mc, so when you run sendmailconfig or if the sendmail.cf package is updated via apt-get etc the options get lost Also the updates are wiping the LOCAL_CONFIG addons to sendmail.mc, so all in all I would suggest avoiding 3.1 at present. So its too buggy to trust, IMHO. Oh crap, that's not good. Could you file a bug report please? -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: webmin sendmail not working Debian Woody
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004, Paul Hailey wrote: Hi I've installed various webmin packages on Debian Woody successfully but both webmin-sendmail and webmin-fetchmail do not yet appear on the webmin page used remotely from a client browser sourced from the server. Has anyone come across this non-appearance of webmin-sendmail? webmin-sendmail was my hope for setting up sendmail after installing it using apt-get from the cd set. The webmin packages in woody are quite buggy. Use the ones from sarge instead. And try a more modern MTA than sendmail. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian retail kit?
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004, Kevin Mark wrote: There is infact a book being worked on by various debian folks for sarge. unfortunalty dont know when it will be out. I think it will be a oriley book that updates the older 'debian bible'. Wiley actually. It's coming out in February. See http://www.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-0764576445.html -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Webmin and 2.6-kernel
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004, Sturla Holm Hansen wrote: I have two machines with the exact same /etc/apt/sources.list files running sarge, the only difference between them I can think of is that one is running kernel 2.6 and the other 2.4. The one with the 2.6-kernel returns far fewer packages when running apt-cache search webmin than the 2.4-one. The one I was missing was webmin-adsl. Is the kernel-version the problem, does apt exclude packages because they don't support the new kernel? Any ideas? Thanx It's not you or your kernels fault. Due to a dependency loop, many of the webmin module packages are missing from sarge. I have spoken to the release managers and hopefully this will be fixed today or tomorrow. In the mean time you can grab the packages from sid. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SourceForge.net moving to Fedora Core from Debian [SourceForge.net PR-Web Upgrade Notice.]
On Mon, 25 Oct 2004, ROBERTOJIMENOCA wrote: SourceForge.net is moving to Fedora Core from Debian!!! This is a huge backoff for the Debian community. Please do something to help SourceForge.net not take this step!!! We need to hear why they are moving to Fedora Core and what problems need to be fixed in Debian so they don't take this way. The reason is that the Debian fanboy who used to administer their servers has left and and the new admin is a Red Hat fanboy. Isn't that usually how distro choices are decided? As long as we continue to have a good supply of Debian fanboys (and girls!) this doesn't mean anything for the Debian community. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Webmin (Sarge)
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004, S.D.A. wrote: OK I moved a couple of the configs over to '/etc/webmin/', From where? but it's still borked. Looks like I'm going back to the upstream package. :( If you really want to get to the bottom of this, you must give _complete_ details of _every_ step you took. Or else it's going to be next to impossible to find out what went on. I'll take another look at the Debian package, when it's been adopted, to see if it moves over the configuration files, when updating from the upstream version. A policy-compliant Debian package will never ever mess with your local configuration guaranteed. So that's simply not going to happen. The message you saw earlier about moving a previous webmin installation refered to a previous Debian package installation. Computers are simply not smart enough to deal with the near-infinite number of installation possibilities outside the packaging system so Debian packages don't even try. Oh and I was wrong and you were right about aptitude. You may want to submit a wishlist bug asking for orphaned packages to be flagged. It's probably easy to implement and sounds like a useful feature. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Webmin (Sarge)
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004, S.D.A. wrote: On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 11:06:22AM -0500 or thereabouts, John Fleming wrote: Any reason why the Debian Webmin wouldn't pick up the previous information? I would have thought on first run of the new application, it would pick up the system configs. Yes, I do have the appropriate modules installed in Webmin. I don't think it's related to your previous install. I just noticed yesterday that my system-related crontab stuff had disappeared in Webmin too. I think I remember that when I did my last apt-get upgrade (sometime in the last few days), there was an upgrade to webmin. Apparently something's changed! I remember logging into Webmin to make sure it was still working, but I hadn't put the upgrade together with my crontab stuff disappearing until now! I think we just have to wait until it's upgraded again. (Apparently not quite ready for the stable release.) - John Thanks John. Interesting. Can anyone else comment on whether this is happening to them as well? Perhaps time to run 'reportbug'? In the last update I added an upstream fix for the cron module. Looks like it broke something. Investigating... -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Webmin (Sarge)
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004, S.D.A. wrote: It's not just the CRON module, but pretty much everything is borked. I cannot read my Apache logs, fetchmail config, etc. Ok so this is a much bigger problem. The Debian packages expect configs to be in /etc/webmin/modulename is that where yours are? I noticed when attempting to file a bug report via reportbug, that this package has _been orphaned by Debian_. Yes I orphaned it. Yet I am assuming the role of a Dickensian uncle to the orphan for the time being. This is not good, I truly wish I'd known this before I trashed my upstream working version and switched to the Debian package. I only switched because I wasnted to keep everything vanilla Debian. Overall a good policy. I think there should be a warning given when one attempts to install such a package, via either apt-get, or aptitude. The warning should mention that the package is orphaned, and to use at your own risk. Actually I believe aptitude does. Looks like one should probably use the upstream version, since it's probably unlikely that anyone is going to adopt this package, On the contrary several people have stepped forward to take over maintainence. It just hasn't sorted itself out just yet. OR are you saying that the upstream vesion is borked to? That remains to be seen. First we are going to need a lot more information about your setup. What upstream version did you have? What did you do to transition it to the Debian packages? -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Webmin (Sarge)
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004, John Fleming wrote: FWIW, my cron jobs are back in the Webmin listing. My problem might have been local; That's good to know. Thanks John. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is there a stable mail client for linux?
On Fri, 1 Oct 2004, Paul Johnson wrote: You think Mutt takes a long time loading a big mailbox? Try PINE. Looking at the better part of half an hour to load a 4MB mailbox in PINE. Something is terribly wrong with your setup then. Currently my debian-devel-changes mbox has approximately 6000 messages, (approximately 31MBs on disk) and pine loads it in about 15 seconds. Pine mmaps a large mailbox so you most likely don't have enough RAM and/or swap. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: auth.log webmin[xxx]: Timeout of admin
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004, Robert S wrote: I've installed webmin 1.16 (from the webmin site) on woody. I have the webmin daemon running but haven't used webmin for several days, but I keep getting these messages in my /var/log/auth.log - which are reported to me by logcheck. Unusual System Events =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Sep 24 18:28:31 debian webmin[326]: Timeout of admin What is the meaning of this? It means admin quit webmin without logging out. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help: Embedded Debian
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004, Stefan Drees wrote: Hi, i´m using debian for now two years and i created lots of servers for our customers. I also tried to create an very small debian install with postfix, bind, dhcp, webmin, squid etc. I was able to cut it down to 100 MB but i want it make smaller. Are there any infos about creating an embedded system with debian or tips to make it smaller, also to hold it small :-) (log files etc.). I need also the possibilty (for the local admin) to administrate the server via web. I installed webmin, but with only the needed modules = 20 MB, any suggestions to get it also smaller? Thanks in advance for all links and tips. Each webmin module has lang and help sub-directories with translations. Also the main directory of each module has config.info.* files for each language. Deleting the languages you don't need will slim things down a lot. Also the msc3 theme (/usr/share/webmin/msc3theme) is unnecessary and can be deleted. (Be sure to change the webmin config to reflect this.) Using the .deb packages is not going to be easy so you might be better off just creating your own custom webmin setup in /usr/local. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Webmin and usermin
On Thu, 9 Sep 2004, Robert S wrote: I am wanting to install usermin on debian-3.0. I wish to use this to allow users to use a simple web-based interface to do tasks like changing passwords. There doesn't seem to be a .deb package for usermin when I do apt-cache search usermin and there doesn't seem to be any pointer to installing usermin on the webmin home page. I am reluctant to try installing the latest version of usermin because it may not agree with the debian webmin which is only 0.94. What is the easiest way of doing this? Usermin wasn't packaged in woody. The webmin version in woody is out of date and buggy. Use the packages from sarge. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mobility radeon driver
On Thu, 9 Sep 2004, Pau Novella Garijo wrote: Hi, I have a laptop with a mobility radeon M6 LY video card and I've been looking for a free driver for a week with no results. I've been told that there are free drivers which suports up to M7 cards. Could anyone tell me where where I can find such a driver? I have the same card in my thinkpad. I use the ati driver in XFree86. I haven't got DRI working though (I don't think my card has enough memory.) -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: interview with joey hess
On Thu, 2 Sep 2004, Joey Hess wrote: Hasan wrote: interview with joey hess http://debian.degismez.com/debian.mp3 This is not me, it's Jaldhar H. Vyas. Apparently our names sound similar in poor-quality mp4 audio. Yep, thats me being interviewed by Linuxworld Magazine. I hope Hasan got their permission before putting this up on his server. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Integrating creating users through WebMin
On Mon, 30 Aug 2004, Curtis Vaughan wrote: Currently we have a RedHat 8 server that was a special order to do the following: When I create a user through WebMin, it automatically creates a samba user profile for them, and a MailDir for Postfix. Well, that server is getting old and I can't update samba, for example, without killing it's integration w/WebMin. So, my question is whether anything similar has been developed under Debian. All of our other servers are Debian and I feel more comfortable with it. All the pieces you need, webmin, samba, postfix, webmin-samba, webmin-postfix are in Debian. I've done custom webmin-related development before (I'm the Debian webmin maintainer if you didn't know) and if you already have something that works on RHAT it shouldn't be too hard to port it to Debian. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Integrating creating users through WebMin
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004, Curtis Vaughan wrote: I'm not the one who developed this stuff, it just works under Red Hat. Kevin Mark has suggested I provide the changes done to RedHat to an OpenSource development community, which I'm all for. But I have no idea what I should even send. So, I guess if someone is interested in taking what was done on our RedHat server and applying it to other Linux installations, then I need to know what I need to provide that developer(s) with. Just throwing the code out there and sitting back waiting for developers to appear is not a good strategy. Sourceforge is littered with projects waiting for those phantom helpers to appear. It would be better to hire a consultant to make the changes you want (full disclosure: I do this sort of thing) and when it has been ported over to Debian, possibly open sourcing the results -- if it is something you see people needing. When there is a finished or at least usable program, people are more likely to want to tweak it, send patches etc. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] sysadmin job in SF Bay Area
On Wed, 11 Aug 2004, Vineet Kumar wrote: Hey everyone, I apologize for this OT message, but this may be of interest to many readers of this list. For future reference, there is a debian-jobs list now. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Webmin dies on startup
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, Jonathan Melhuish wrote: Since upgrading my system on 10th July, webmin hasn't worked. When I try running /etc/init.d/webmin start, it says Starting webmin: webmin and returns control to the command line - but no processes persist and no ports stay open. What's more, I don't even get any log output in /var/log/webmin/webmin.log or /var/log/messages. I usually run the stable version, but I have also tried installing the testing version, to no avail. I have tried removing and re-installing both versions. Has anybody got any ideas? Don't run the version from stable for a start. I suspect that webmin can't bind to port 1 because something is already on there. Do a netstat -lpt as root and see if anything turns up. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The state of debian security
On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quote from debians security website: Debian takes security very seriously. Most security problems brought to our attention are corrected within 48 hours. Debian has yet to release security patches for two major vulnerabilities in php. In fact they havent released an advisory of any kind in over two weeks. Um you mean exactly two weeks. DSAs 526 and 527 were posted on July 3. I know that this is a community effort, but I dont really understand how thats an excuse seeing that Gentoo released and updated ebuild the next day. Yeah but what is an ebuild? They just take whatever glop upstream serves up without much integration. In this case PHP was updated with a bug fix promptly. But if they (PHP) made a huge blunder which they missed at release time, gentoo would promptly update to that. Debian stables' value add is that the software in it maybe old but it is tried and tested. Security fixes are backported to known good versions and that takes time. Another reason for delays is that woody is so long in the tooth now that the current upstream versions of many programs are quite different from the ones there which makes backporting more time consuming. The answer is for us to hurry up and release sarge. I love debian. I run debian stable on all of my production machines, and the belief that security patches would be handed down to the community promptly was a major factor in choosing it as our distribution of choice. Nevertheless, if users continued to be frustrated by slow response times to security issues and poor developer attitudes, ??? Did someone say haha we're not going to update php so nyah? God knows you can find instances of poor developer attitudes in Debian but I don't see how this is one. debian has no real advantage over any other distro. The truth is sometimes the other distros get out advisories before we do and sometimes its the other way around. If you would care to review the stats, you'll see all the distros are pretty much even in the end. Frustrated and vulnerable One of the main benefits of open source is freeing you from being the pawn of a vendor. Have you contacted the PHP maintainer (every .deb has the maintainers name on it.) to see what the holdup is and if there is an ETA? If you didn't get any satisfaction that way, you can get the source for the .deb, add the patch yourself, and repack it. Chances are someone on this list already done it. (personally the most PHP programmers write, I think the whole thing is a security hole.) My feeling (as an outsider) is that the security teams responses are going to continue to be a little slow for a bit but by the time sarge releases it will be back to its speedy self again. You've got to look at the long-term and Debians security record continues to be good. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A small difficulty with Net::IMAP, encore
On Tue, 29 Jun 2004, John Summerfield wrote: John Summerfield wrote: John Summerfield wrote: I installed libnet-imap-perl on Sarge so I could chat up an imap server, did a quick cut and paste from the two samples provided and it does not Work For Me. John, I responded to your two bug reports but the address you provided is bouncing. Look them up at bugs.debian.org and try -3 which I just uploaded. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Perl/Webmin/CPAN/ question (LONG)
On Sun, 27 Jun 2004, John Foster wrote: Hey group. This is the situation. I have a Debian SID installation. I have Perl installed from Debian. I want to run Interchange on this system. Any reason why you can't use the Debian interchange package? apt-cache show interchange Interchange 'requires' non-threaded Perl. I have built installed a non-threaded Perl in /usr/local/share/perl This keeps it from being an issue as it is NOT the default Perl that the Debian system recoginzes. I also need to install several modules that are required by interchange to operate properly. I have read the instruction on CPAN about how to install use a non-standard module,,but I believe that will screw up the Debian default as it resets @INC for the system. Only on per script basis. I.e. you have to do: use lib '/usr/local/share/perl'; at the beginning of each script in order to change @INC. I also would like to set up webmin to manage the second Perl installation. I currently see no way to do that. When I tried to set up webmin's perl management, I saw that it too looked like it might mess up th Debian Perl installation. i tried the Bundle for Interchange Kitchen sink it installed it to the secondary perl installation. However I tried others an one of them was installed into the Debian stub system. i do NOT want that. I need to keep the two installations completely separate. Any ideas, critiques, etc are welcome. webmin just uses the cpan script that comes with perl. By default that will be /usr/bin/cpan but you can change the configuration to use /usr/local/bin/cpan if you have it. The problem with installing modules seems to be PATH related. Are you sure you were invoking the right copy of CPAN? -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: webmin instalation problem on sarge
On Sun, 27 Jun 2004, Vadik wrote: I am running /sarge and I am trying to install webmin 1.150-1, but installation breaks. Here is output: - xxx:/etc/logrotate.d# apt-get install webmin Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Recommended packages: webmin-core The following NEW packages will be installed: webmin 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 0B/1036kB of archives. After unpacking 5702kB of additional disk space will be used. Preconfiguring packages ... Selecting previously deselected package webmin. (Reading database ... 28879 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking webmin (from .../webmin_1.150-1_all.deb) ... Setting up webmin (1.150-1) ... miniserv.pem: No such file or directory xxx:/etc/logrotate.d# ls /etc/webmin e5d488f2.0 miniserv.pem miniserv.users - Any recommendation of what can be wrong? My understanding that this error has something to do with openssh. It doesn't seem that anything is wrong. As part of the post-installation script, webmin looks to see if you already have a miniserv ssl certificate and creates it if you don't. If you want to be absolutely sure the package is properly installed, do dpkg -l webmin If the first two letters on the line are ii, you are ok. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No hope for DRI on Radeon Mobility M6 LY?
My laptop has one of these cards which are suposed to have 8192K of Video RAM. Unfortunately as this excerpt from /var/log/xfree86.0.log shows (WW) RADEON(0): Static buffer allocation failed -- need at least 9216 kB video memory ... (II) RADEON(0): Direct rendering disabled I'm a little short. Is there any workaround for this? Some parameter I can tweak to reduce the amount of video memory needed? I'm running sarge with xfree86 4.3.0-dfsg.1-4 on a Thinkpad X24. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: aide pour config
On Sun, 20 Jun 2004, Bilé Paul wrote: Bonjour, JE voudrais aupres de vous tous les renseignement necessaire pour installer webmin sous debian et l'afficher sur mon navigateur ie6 windows. Merci de me renseigner Bonjour, Je suis desole. J'ai etudie la Francais au lycee, mais maintenant j'ai oublie presque tout! Pour plus d'aide, ecrivez-vous a la liste francophone de Debian -- debian-user-french@lists.debian.org -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/
Re: imap-uw pop mail
On Sun, 20 Jun 2004, Alexander Rau (private) wrote: Hi: I am running woody and would like to use imap-uw and pop. So far I was only able to get the imap service running properly. When I run an nmap on the machine neither of the pop ports are open. Anybody any suggestions how to turn on impa-uw to listen to and accept pop requests? Well question number 1 is have you installed the ipopd package? -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Fwd: New Bitstream technology comes to Linux and Desktop/LX]
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004, David Palmer wrote: This is a newsletter from the Lycoris Linux commercial distribution, concerning something new in font/font management. I'm not aware of the licencing details (I would be very surprised if it could be classified as 'free'). Point the first. It's not remotely free. (Though Bitstream have made the specification for the underlying formats open so at the very least a free as in beer clone could be made. Perhaps free as in speech. I looked at the licenses a long time ago.) Point the second: There seems to be an ever accelerating interest in the proprietary section toward incorporating free/open source software into hybrid environments. This has a double implication for me - (1) Proprietary vendors wanting to incorporate FOSS to extend and enhance marketability of their product/s. (2) The possibility of proprietary interests incorporating FOSS into their productline, Nothing wrong with that. and then by way of this assuming a legal posture in the possession aspect. How could they? By using GPL licensed products they have agreed not to do that. Point the third: Lycoris is based on a Caldera base, and I'm not sure how this would stand with the SCO situation. Again I don't see how it could. But it looks good, as all dangerous toys do, so I thought that it might be of interest anyway. Regards, Meh. Maybe some font fetishists will be interested in this but I can't see 99.9% of Linux users caring. Certainly not enough to switch distributions for it. Freetype2 with proper tweaking gives excellent quality fonts. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: saving iptables rules?
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004, Adam Aube wrote: Ralph Crongeyer wrote: How does one save iptables rules in Debian Unstable/SID? I've tried iptables-save and get some output with no errors, but when I reboot all my rules are gone? /etc/init.d/iptables save active Except that is just a hold over from old versions of the package. It doesn't exist in new installs. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dear Debian Maintainers (usability)
On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, J. Preiss wrote: I hope the new installer will care about these problems. I dont want to change back to suse. I dont want to pay just because of new kernel / new kde / new version of wah wah wah! debian is a community, a give-and-take not a product. If you don't like something about it you need to help fix it (By programming, bug reports, documentation etc.) If you are not willing or able to fix it you owe someone some money to fix it for you. As in every other aspect of life, there is no such thing as a free lunch. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dear Debian Maintainers (usability)
On Tue, 8 Jun 2004, David Moreno Garza wrote: On Tue, 2004-06-08 at 15:30, W Paul Mills wrote: As in every other aspect of life, there is no such thing as a free lunch. Humm... He is a new debian user, and you want him to start fixing things immediately. He may never stick around that long. Give him a break! Yes, there are always people who forget these simple things when talking of/with new users. Perhaps you and Paul think I meant by fixing things that the original poster should start learning C and building packages etc. Far from it! There are many ways in which Debian can be helped which don't require programming. All it takes is a willingness to jump in. Back in 1997 I was a new user (not new to Linux though but still in the dark about a lot of things.) I was complaining about something or another on this very list. And the answer I got was exactly So why don't you fix it? And I did and here I am today. I didn't complain about the answer because that's what I and everyone else thought you were supposed to do. Somewhere down the line people have started thinking that Linux is a product and Debian is a vendor. Well it isn't and we aren't. There are vendors who have made products out of Linux and even Debian in particular but they ask for something else in return usually money. So when the original poster says that Suse is a product that fits his needs but he doesn't want to pay for it frankly I don't have much sympathy. It's not about complaining. Criticize all you want the stuff in Debian that deserves criticism. But back the complaints up with some action or it just looks like whining. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dovecot postgresql
On Fri, 4 Jun 2004, Tom Allison wrote: Can someone point to some docs to help with a postgres configuration for dovecot? I'm missing the referenced doc (see auth.txt.gz) on how to set this up. Whoops I forgot to add this to the package didn't I? It will be fixed in the next version. But you're not missing much. It says: PostgreSQL -- See /etc/dovecot-pgsql.conf for more information. Password and user databases may use different configuration files to keep the information in separate locations. If both refer to same file, they share the same PostgreSQL connection. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian presentation at Mid-Hudson Valley Linux Users Group
On Thursday June 3, between 6-8pm I will be giving a talk on Debian at the MHV LUG in Poughkeepsie, NY. See http://www.mhvlug.org/ for directions and other details. I shall be showing off our new installer, talking about our packaging system and anything else people feel like asking me about. If you want to have your GnuPG key signed I can do that too. (Just bring your key fingerprint and a valid ID.) See you there! -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: webmin-exim configuration problems.
On Wed, 19 May 2004, Ralph Crongeyer wrote: I see. I wonder if it's too much to ask, if you would post a message here when it's finished? Finally got some time to do it. But I think I missed todays deadline for getting into the archive. If so, it will be in unstable tomorrow. I've tried a new (to me) technique for detecting which configuration to use. I've tested it and I'm pretty sure it works but if you notice anything, please file a report via the bug tracking system (http://bugs.debian.org/) -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: webmin-exim configuration problems.
On Wed, 19 May 2004, Ralph Crongeyer wrote: Hi all, I have exim4 installed and running fine, I'm using the single /etc/exim4/exim4.conf file method of configuration. I have installed the webmin-exim package but it's giving me this error: Unable to find the exim binary or it's configuration file. If Exim is installed on your system try the module configuration. In module configuration I have: Exim executable /etc/init.d/exim4 Exim configuration file /etc/exim4/exim4.conf Is this wrong? Or is the package broken? It's not so much much broken as only designed for exim3. There is a newer version that supports both 3 and 4 but I've been sitting on packaging it. Time to get a move on I suppose. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian, rpm and corporate world
On Tue, 18 May 2004, Paul Johnson wrote: Anything proprietary is automatically a toy to me. ...which is why your opinion is utterly worthless. I'm not asking anyone to like proprietary software or the corporate environment but at least know your enemy if nothing else. Mindless zealotry does more to harm successful advocacy than not mentioning Debian at all. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian, rpm and corporate world (was: Can rpm packages from other linux distribution be used on Debian?)
On Mon, 17 May 2004, Dominique Dumont wrote: Sure. Be if one can easily install rpm packages on a Debian system, this would be a good message sent to the corporate world. I don't think so. The kind of corporate type who even know there is such a difference will understand why .debs are better. The ones who don't will never get the message. Currently there is big chicken and egg problem with Debian in the corporate world. Corporate guys want to be able to install software from ISV (like Oracle). Oracle is a bad example. Corporate DBAs pick whatever platform Oracle supports. Oracle will never support Debian not because there's no one there who knows how to make a .deb but because it is to chaotic for their tech support model. ISVs only provide their proprietary software as rpm because not many corporation ask for Debian. Corporation do not ask for Debian because most ISVs don't provide Debian packages. Corporations do not ask for Debian because it is not on Oracles (or other ISVs) supported platform list. The operating system is just a commodity. It's the apps that drive the platform not the other way around. So the trick is to convince the ISVs that apps are worth porting to Debian. Once they are convinced, they'll work out how to make .debs fast enough. IMHO, the only way to break this circle is to provide a way to install rpm that doesn't look like a hack. I disagree. IMO the number one thing we can do to drum up ISV support is to hurry up and release sarge. Woody is so out of date it's a maintainence nightmare. For example the latest stable versions of SUSE and Fedora are using perl 5.8.x. Woody still has 5.6. There are enough minor differences between the two to significantly complicate QA work. And lets not even talk about things like g++ or NPTL. Two, customers (as opposed to random zealots on mailing lists) need to be really vocal about wanting genuine Debian support. Everytime you get a survey, write about wanting Debian support. Everytime you meet a sales rep, ask him so hows the Debian support coming? When ISVs sense genuine demand, they will figure out how to fill it. Three, we need to increase the amount of documentation for developers and users. The more Debian is a known quantity, the easier it will be for ISVs to work with it and around it. So to sum up, don't worry about package format. It's really not important at all. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PHP4 apt package with SSL support?
On Sat, 1 May 2004, Jeff Mitchell wrote: Is there a way to find out if the PHP4 (4.3.4) package was built with SSL support? I'm trying to look into using php4-imap with imap-s. PHPs' IMAP module supports imaps. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: After upgrade from woody stable to unstable xserver starts at boot again
Btw please start a new thread instead of making an off-topic reply to a thread about alsa. On Fri, 30 Apr 2004, Jens Simmoleit wrote: Hi, well heck, I can't explain why there's a X-server starting on my machine at boot up. I removed the init.d Entries in webmin. After the update the xserver came up again, and now I don't know how to stop this godd*mn thing. Which entry do I need to modify to prevent that the xserver is started. Take a look what webmin says (pretty funny story!): Action Start at boot? Description xdm No /etc/init.d/xdm: start or stop the X display manager xfree86-common No /etc/init.d/xfree86-common: set up the X server socket directory 10-4-2003: Now sets up .ICE-unix ICE IPC directory. -DS xfs No /etc/init.d/xfs: start or stop the X font server I think that's quite interesting as I've choosen to use kdm, which isn't running at all, not even mentioned :-/ It seems to me that you have xdm installed. Do you? If so just remove it if you don't need it. # dpkg --purge xdm -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: beep story
On Tue, 13 Apr 2004, hugo vanwoerkom wrote: Is there a way to find out how long a Debian package has been around? Look at /usr/share/doc/package/changelog.Debian.gz -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian has turned unusable.
On Mon, 12 Apr 2004, Trollcollect wrote: I want to start with saying that i was a strong advocate of debian compared to distributions such as RedHat and SuSE. Please don't advocate things you don't understand. You are doing neither yourself or the people you are trying to give advice to. Now follows an attempt to provide some quick answers. Every single issue you raise has been brought up and answered ad nauseum on this list and elsewhere. Being a UNIX admin professionally (Solaris mainly), i felt home on a debian system pretty quick, and the packaging method was unique among all linux deriatives i have seen. Also i used to like debians approach of stability before bleeding-edge stuff. However as i have to install a small network now (7 WS's and one server), i have to reconsider this assessment. I downloaded woody (2 failed attempts to get an installation CD with the new jigdo method). Jigdo is the ideal method and seems to work for most people however the same page that describes jigdo (http://www.debian.org/distrib/cd) also has pointers to where to get the full iso images. What i got after installation was - a 2.2 Kernel without ext3 support - a KDE 2.0 overall totally outdated and useless versions of libraries and software. This is the result of stability before bleeding edge stuff. The woody cds and boot floppies do support kernel 2.4 which you can use by typing bf24 at the initial prompt. I then tried to figure out how to update those packages i need in recent versions. As i know KDE from Solaris, i trust enough in their own QA procedure to consider their 3.2.1 stable enough for usage. Why debian believes KDE 2.0 is more stable, or even usable at all, is beyond my understanding. You misunderstand the meaning of stable in the debian context. It is not a comment on the stability of individual packages but the distribution as a whole. However it turned out that i could not update only selected packages easily. In fact neither of dselect or apt-get seemed to have a method to do this in a sensible way. apt-get install apt-howto-en (or apt-howto-de if you prefer) and read about apt pinning and adding additional apt sources. See http://www.backports.org/ for a source of woody packages for the latest KDE, Gnome, kernel 2.6, Apache 2, etc. Now it MAY well be that i am just an idiot who is not capable of doing this, however i asked in a few linux related channels and also at work, noone could tell me how to set up a half-way decent debian without compromising the pkg system. Sure many told me to build it all by hand but then, without the packaging system what good is debian? Don't take advice from random people in random places. Spend 15 minutes on google first. I hope that whoever is responsible for the direction debian is steering to currently thinks about the target of the whole distribution, which is to provide users with a decent linux system that comes stable, yet with all neccessary parts to be competetive among other distributions. Nobody is responsible for the direction Debian is steering (or rather 900 people are steering it in different directions!) The nearest thing we have to a target is the Debian social contract and free software guidelines (http://www.debian.org/social_contract) Definitely there are parts of the Debian process that need improvement but learn about what's already possible before criticizing. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: When a release is ready. (was Re: Re: Debian has turned unusable.)
On Mon, 12 Apr 2004, Chris Metzler wrote: One thing that I've never understood, and haven't figured out by reading the Debian Reference or by osmosis from posts here (probably the Debian Developer documents is where I *should* look) is how the goals for a release are determined and communicated to anyone interested. If you find out can you let me know? I propose the Debian distributions be renamed to oozing settling congealed -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: User manager
On Thu, 8 Apr 2004, Michael Alle wrote: yeah, thats it .. i already thought about webmin, but i had headaches about webmin beeing accessible all the time for the world .. good solution !!! Fwiw by default, the Debian webmin packages use SSL, only listen on localhost, and automatically log you out after 5 minutes of inactivity. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Useful new package management tool
On Thu, 8 Apr 2004, John Foster wrote: On Wednesday 31 March 2004 12:49 pm, Matthew T. Atkinson wrote: You asked for a suggestion so here it is: Take all the info you generated along with your skills in perl and using all of the tools mentioned contrive a WebMin module for those of us who are really lazy and don't use; or want to use command line tools. ...and if you do it, I'll be happy to package it up. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Installer team seeking for translators : Serbian (sr), Croatian (hr), Hindi (hi), others
[Please Cc me on replies, I'm not subscribed to -boot) On Thu, 8 Apr 2004, Christian Perrier wrote: -Hindi (or whatever people from India will feel most appropriate besides English) Hindi is good. Bengali and Tamil also have active Linux translation teams, with Bengali you get Bangladesh as a bonus. And I have a personal interest in Gujarati. BUT what kind of support for Indic scripts is there in d-i? Are opentype fonts supported? We actually have a pretty good range of fonts packaged or will have soon. Would udebs have to be made for them? -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Webmin install problem might be openssl or hostname
On Sat, 3 Apr 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello I have posted this problem to the debian user list because I suspect that this is a system rather than a webmin problem. It is. In order to remotely administer this server I have been trying to install webmin (via aptitude) but unfortunately I have been getting the following error message: Setting up webmin (1.130-1) ... miniserv.pem: No such file or directory hostname: Unknown host I understand that openssl generates the 'miniserv.pem' and as far as I can tell it is installed and working fine. Also when I run the hostname command I get: chopin which is the hostname I gave the computer during initial set-up. What is the output of hostname --fqdn? You need to have a fully-qualified domain name set up for the certificate generation code to work. If you don't have a domain name of your own (i.e soon.co.uk) or one setup by your ISP, set it to localdomain (which would make your FQDN chopin.localdomain) If you want to remotely administer your server you want a real domain name though. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ipopd and unknown authorization state command
On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Matthijs wrote: - Then, using squirrelmail, I accessed my Inbox (which under the hood uses IMAP. Logged in without problems, no mail in my Inbox - A few seconds later, I tried to access my Inbox again via squirrelmail but got a vague error: ERROR : Could not complete request. Query: SELECT INBOX Reason Given: Internal error [2004-03-20 12:59:13] - From then on, POPping was also not possible anymore. If you check you mbox with a text editor you will probably find one or more messages with double From lines (not From:) Is /etc/c-client.cf properly set up? See /usr/share/doc/libc-client*/README.Debian Good tip. Probably plain text passwords are not enabled. Probably in the previous version of ipod (packaged with Debian stable), plain tex passwords were enabled but disabled in later versions. Yep, that's exactly what happened. dpkg-reconfigure libc-client2003debian -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: YaST
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004, Tom Allison wrote: I guess the news is out. SuSE's YaST is going GPL this year. http://news.com.com/2100-7344_3-5175682.html?tag=nefd_top I've used it and found it a pretty decent tool. Me too. I'm curious to hear what the Debian community has to say about this. I just filed an Intent To Package it. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ipopd and unknown authorization state command
On Wed, 17 Mar 2004, Matthijs wrote: I think I've got a good reason to use ipopd instead of qpopper: When I use the webmail client (squirrelmail) on the machine, all mail is transfered to an IMAP account. At some point however, I want to POP all my mail (including the mail in the IMAP account) to another PC. As far as I know, ipopd is the only(?) pop3-server that can also pop IMAP accounts. Dovecot also supports POP3 and IMAP. Any suggestions on how to solve this problem? Is /etc/c-client.cf properly set up? See /usr/share/doc/libc-client*/README.Debian -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IMAP server to fit this bill?
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Steve Lamb wrote: Currently I am running uw-imapd. I believe it is the version from Woody even though most of my system is riding unstable. While it works well enough I am not pleased with the capabilities it presents. I'm looking for a replacement which can do the following: a: Operate well with Squirrelmail, Exim and Thunderbird. b: Offer shared folders to users. c: Use mbox. The only other imapd in Debian that supports mbox is dovecot. Normally I would recommend it without hesitation (after all I maintain it :-) however there is currently a release critical bug about mbox corruption. It's only one report and I myself use the dovecot/mbox combination heavily without problems but it's something to bear in mind. Other than that it should fit your bill nicely. Try it anyway. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AW: AW: AW: webmin-samba configuration problem
On Tue, 16 Mar 2004, Simmel wrote: bug report is okay, but place it where??? BTS?? NEver did a bug report before, please enlighten me :-) See http://bugs.debian.org/ There is full documentation there. Also install the reportbug package. It will automate the process of submitting a bug for you. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AW: AW: webmin-samba configuration problem
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004, Simmel wrote: Hi Jaldhar, I'm running Samba 2.X on woody stable. I used the real webmin package and ALSO the one provided with debian (but I upgraded it because it's version 0.97 in stable :-) So just to confirm, with webmin-samba 1.130, you are still having the problem? If so please open a bug report in the BTS and I'll investigate. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AW: webmin-samba configuration problem
On Sun, 14 Mar 2004, n n wrote: Sorry about that. We're running Woody, and the webmin-samba version is 0.94-7woody1. Also, the version of samba we are running is 2.2.3a-12.3 The 0.94 Debian packages are screwed up. Use the 1.130 packages from unstable (they should install fine on woody.) -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AW: webmin-samba configuration problem
On Fri, 12 Mar 2004, Simmel wrote: Could be a bug, I tried the same with the same result. also I tried these lines in my smb.conf, which won't work either. I guess that's more or less the same way webmin tries to do it. #synchronisation samba UNIX passwords unix password sync = yes passwd program = /usr/bin/passwd %u passwd chat = *New*UNIX*password* %n\n *Retype*new*UNIX*password* %n\n *Enter*new*UNIX*password* %n\n *Retype*new*UNIX*password* %n\n *passwd: *all*authentication*tokens*updated*successfully* but the only effect it produces is that users can't even login??? I'm glad I only have a small domain with up to 50 users and machines, so I do all my user config by hand. Would be good to get a smart guy to fix that. Simmel We are trying to establish whether this is an error on our part, or a possible bug with 'webmin-samba,' and if it is a misconfiguration at our end, any insight into solving the problem would be appreciated. Neither of you mentioned which version of webmin-samba and which version of Debian this is. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: webmin access?
On Fri, 5 Mar 2004, stan wrote: I'm setting up a KnoppMYTH machine, and it seesm to install webmin by default. I;m able to get my browser to atach to port 1000 on that machine, but I can't get loged in. Whoops I didn't see this until now. You are really better off reporting problems through the bug tracking system (http://bugs.debian.org/) Does webmin use the /etc/password passwords? The Debian packages use PAM which is set up by default to use /etc/passwd. They also uses https instead of http which is probably your problem. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Webmin and Apache questions.......
On Fri, 12 Mar 2004, S.D.A. wrote: On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 12:06:25PM -0500 or thereabouts, Ralph Crongeyer wrote: Also I can start and stop webmin with no problems but when I try to connect to https://ipaddress:1/ I get: The connection refused when attempting to contact ipaddress. It's like it's not listining on port 1 ? Well, since you're having problems with ssl, try the same URL without the https, just http://ipaddress:1/. Except that wouldn't work for webmin because the Debian packages are set up to use SSL only be default. They are also setup to listen to localhost so Ralph, if you go to https://localhost:1/ you should be able to get in. Then you can relax or tighten the access policies as you see fit. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Webmin and Apache questions.......
On Fri, 12 Mar 2004, S.D.A. wrote: How can it possibly work if one doesn't have ssl working? webmin has it's own webserver so Apache problems are not relevant. Anyway, I'm not using the Debian's webmin -- I usually grab a fresh one from the Webmin website. fwiw The packages in unstable (should work in testing and stable too) are 1.130 which is the latest version. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: alternative to plesk and cpanel?
On Fri, 13 Feb 2004, Louie Miranda wrote: Well, i would really love to get back on my question. ok, webmin: Im planning to be a hosting provider, and plesk is a web administration panel for users account. Can webmin also do that? Yes. There is also a module for virtual hosting management called virtualmin which I'm in the process of debianizing. Se http://www.webmin.com/ for more information. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: alternative to plesk and cpanel?
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004, Jacob S. wrote: On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 14:45:07 +0800 Louie Miranda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It cost much, cpanel and plesk. Anyone know any good alternative for it? opensource would be much helpfull. # apt-cache show webmin Package: webmin Priority: optional Section: admin Installed-Size: 3432 Maintainer: Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Architecture: all Version: 0.94-7 Please don't use this version. It is buggy beyond belief. The 1.130 packages from unstable should work fine on woody. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: alternative to plesk and cpanel?
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004, Dave's List Addy wrote: On 2/12/04 11:05 AM, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: Please don't use this version. It is buggy beyond belief. The 1.130 packages from unstable should work fine on woody. Why not just grab the source from webmin.com and install? Pretty brainless installer. Why not just use slackware then :-) seriously, there are times and situations were going the source route makes more sense and others when using .debs makes more sense. It's a tradeoff. pro * Total control over configuration. * You can update at your own speed, whenever you are ready. * Your only choice if there is no .deb available and you don't know how to make one. con * You need to know how to compile and install it. Not always simple. * You need to keep track of dependencies yourself * You need to integrate it into the whole system yourself. Debian package are often quite enhanced compared to the original source with things like registration into the menu system etc. * You need to keep track of security problems and bugs yourself. The author of webmin has been very good about accepting my patches but in other cases the Debian maintainer has to modify the upstream source a lot in order to make it work properly. * You need to spend time on all these things. Hobbyist types may be entranced by gcc output whizzing by but for my old jaded self, the thrill is gone. I need my computers for actual work, Things like gentoos' portage mitigate the cons somewhat but the tradeoff is still there. That's why Debian is mostly binary-based but tries not to impede you if you want to DIY. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pppupd... where has it gone ?
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004, Ian Perry wrote: Hi, I noticed that pppupd is not in Debian 3. Wow that's a blast from the past. pppupd was the first package I maintained for Debian back in 1997. Is there something different, or has pppd been modified/updated to take care of redialling after a connection is broken on a modem ? Yes. That's why pppupd was removed back in the potato era. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: devnagari fonts in mails
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote: hello all here is the situation. from my windows machine i send mails home. at home i run debian 3.0 and use exim - fetchmail - mutt combination for mail. all these mails have to be in english as i do not know how to send mails in devnagari that mutt can read. but i would prefer to send mails in devnagari. is it too complicated a process? can it be done between a windows and linux machine? i know the questions are general. but could someone help me please? It can be done but so far things are not too standardized. The wave of the future is unicode which is a character set that encodes all the worlds languages included Indian ones. If you have unicode fonts installed on both windows and Linux, and applications that support unicode you can write mails in Devanagari. On the windows side, Microsoft have an Indian language Pack (or somesuch, search www.microsoft.com) for Windows 2000 or higher. On Linux there is support in GNOME and KDE (but not in mutt afaik) See http://www.indlinux.org/ for more details. Although I haven't really had the time to do serious work on it, I've started a Debian-IN project to try and get better support for Indian languages into our favorite OS. At http://debian-in.alioth.debian.org, you can download the initial stage of the work, a .deb containg some free fonts for various Indian languages. If you would like to help the project out it would be greatly appreciated. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Join Debian at Linuxworld New York
The Linuxworld Conference and Expo will once again take place in New York City from Jan 21-23, 2004 at the Jacob Javits Center.[1] Debian will be in booth #2 in the .org pavilion. Stop by to get your GPG key signed, make a donation to the Debian project by buying a t-shirt or just to say hello. If you don't have an entrance pass you can print one out[2] and register at the show for free access to the expo. [1] http://www.linuxworldexpo.com [2] http://people.debian.org/~jaldhar/lwceny2004.html -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Documentation and Useability - a proposed solution
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Mac McCaskie wrote: My argument is that as a noobie, I have access to packages that are not well documented though the main distribution. STOP ME BEFORE I APT-GET AGAIN -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Documentation and Usability
On Sat, 17 Jan 2004, Mac McCaskie wrote: Where is the value of providing a widget to a customer without giving them a clue as to what the widget is or what to do with it. Well here's your problem. You think Debian is a product and you are a customer. Well then just send your receipt[1] to Debian HQ and a refund of $0.00 will be on its way. In the case of webmin, you had a problem and got a solution. It seems the process is working quite fine to me but if you would like a widget there are plenty of people who would like to sell one[2] to you. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ [1] You did keep your receipt didn't you? [2] Even Debian-based. See http://www.xandros.com/ , http://www.libranet.com/ or http://www.lindows.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Webmin doesn't install properly on Woody?
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..while webmin is now at 1.121. Whoops I meant 1.121 $ apt-cache show webmin Package: webmin Priority: optional Section: admin Installed-Size: 5444 Maintainer: Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Architecture: all Version: 1.121-1 Replaces: webmin-ssl Provides: webmin-ssl Depends: perl, debconf, libpam-runtime (= 0.76-13.1), libauthen-pam-perl, libnet-ssleay-perl, openssl Recommends: webmin-core Conflicts: webmin-ssl Filename: pool/main/w/webmin/webmin_1.121-1_all.deb Size: 1016670 MD5sum: 602a26b2035f68f7b1be5b0a0828dcb2 Description: Web-based administration toolkit Webmin is a web-based interface for system administration for Unix. Using any browser that supports tables and forms (and Java for the File Manager module), you can setup user accounts, Apache, DNS, file sharing and so on. ..the third way is first install the woody stuff with apt-get, then enter webmin's own update menu and update it, it'll them suck in a tarball with all modules. Except I've disabled that feature. ..the 3 wee bits missing IMHO, is it oughtta first check which modules are installed, and offer to weed out the surplus modules (some are new), and it oughtta report the changes to the database, or place it in /usr/local or /opt. And that's why the proper way is to use .debs! -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Webmin doesn't install properly on Woody?
On Sun, 11 Jan 2004, Mac McCaskie wrote: Hey folks, I'm fairly new to debian and have been playing around getting a web server up and running. I ran into what I thought sounded like a dream come true, WebMin. So I installed it via dselect with some packages I thought I'd need. However now I cannot get it to run. After doing some spelunking I've discovered a few things via comments I've read around and about. -The current .deb package does not install all needed packages. You mean apt-get install webmin doesn't install all webmin modules? That's by design. Each module (apart from a few essential core ones) is a seperate module. Think about it. If you are running postfix why would you need a sendmail module? If you are running proftpd why would you need a wuftpd module installed? Etc. Or do you mean some other ptoblem? -Webmin is way behind (ie out of date) in Woody. -The maintainer is apparently not keeping up. Again this is by design. When a Debian distribution becomes stable, no new software is added to it. Testing/unstable contains version 1.110 which is the most current. Having said that, webmin in woody is broken (and has been for some time but lets not go there.) In fact I've asked the archive maintainers to remove it altogether but they're taking their sweet time about it. -There is no bug report about it's failure to install properly. Problems with the woody packages are likely never going to be fixed. I advise you to install the versions from sarge which will install cleanly on a woody system. You can do this in one of two ways: 1. Search the archives of this list for the topic apt pinning 2. Manually download the .debs you want and install them with dpkg -i -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: install module in webmin
On Mon, 5 Jan 2004, Lucas Albers wrote: I installed webmin from testing, Version 1.121 I am unable to get install a new webmin snort module from snort.org via teh webmin interface. All the documentation talks about these steps for installing a module via webmin from www.webmin.com --If you are using Webmin version 0.88 or above, these updates can be --installed automatically using the 2nd and 3rd forms under Webmin Configuration - Upgrade Webmin I don't have this in my listing. I've been looking at this for awhile and cannot understand what the problem is. Normally to learn the changes Debian has made to an upstream package you would look at /usr/share/doc/packagename/README.Debian but oops I've forgotten to do this. A mistake that will be fixed in the next version. Anyway the reason is that going behind the package managers back can lead to problems so I've disabled this feature. Your alternatives are: 1. Copy the module configuration to /etc/webmin/modulename and the rest of its files to /usr/share/webmin/modulename It should then show up in webmin. The problem is that dpkg will not know about it and it could potentially cause problems later on. 2. Make your own Debian package of the module using one of the existing ones as a model. 3. Ask me very nicely if I'll package it. :-) -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Missing QT3 qmake definitions
On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, Otto Wyss wrote: I tried to build CUTE which depends on QT but I'm still missing the qmake definitions. According to the docs they should be in /usr/lib/qt3/mkspecs/linux-g++/ on SuSe. Does anyone know where they are on Debian and to which package they belong? qt3-dev-tools -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SID: Webmin will not let me edit, systems users
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, John Foster wrote: No luck with that either. I tried adding several no-login users with the result that webmin creats a /home/username/ site with owner 11 group as specified. However the group properties are not passed either. In short all it does is create the directory. I also can not edit any of the existing users on the system. I hope this improves as I will have to either downgrade or go to the old tarball install. Yeah...I am sort of lazy prefer to use .debs when I can.Thanks for the pointers. If there is any help I can provide please advise as I did look over the module configs for webmin did not see any areas to edit that might affect this issue.I am very willing to help...else I wopuld not be running a SID system. Edit the module config and explicity set the password file as /etc/passwd and the group file as /etc/group. You may also need to set the shadow password and group files to /etc/shadow and /etc/gshadow Then does it work? -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SID: Webmin will not let me edit, systems users
On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, John Foster wrote: I have webmin installed from Debian.org not from the upstream developer. I have always been able to use it to add users, groups , edit them. Now it has a warning that I can not, it will not let me edit the existing users or add new ones. What gives. I have been using it since before it was a debian package. Try 1.121 which I just uploaded. This appears to work now. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any Debian package to manage Apache users ?
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, Bob Alexander wrote: Is there some GUI to define, revoke, update passwords for Apache(2) users ??? Tried Apache Webmin but it does not and I would like to avoid using the htpasswd command line for this (many users and quite dynamic). webmin 1.120 includes an htaccess-htpasswd module. (The Debian package will be called webmin-htaccess.) I already uploaded it but new packages require manual processing by the ftpmasters so it could be a week or two before it shows up in unstable. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: blog-lite for Debian Stable?
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003, BruceG wrote: Thanks for the info. I looked at some of the packages and am impressed. My server (that's using the term a bit optimisticly) might not be up to the task of running MySQL. It already has PHP installed, but is a little underpowered. Think I'll start off with a simple text-editor or use OOo, then ftp them to the server. Not a true blog, but a starting place. Try blosxom. There is a Debian package but it's not in woody. It should install easily on woody though as it is just a perl script. (No databases or anything.) $ apt-cache show blosxom Package: blosxom Priority: optional Section: web Installed-Size: 208 Maintainer: Dirk Eddelbuettel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Architecture: all Version: 2.0-2 Depends: perl, apache | httpd, debconf Filename: pool/main/b/blosxom/blosxom_2.0-2_all.deb Size: 21300 MD5sum: 0959d0b57ba3a4afa5bf1b378f5f160a Description: Light, feature-packed weblog app with plugin extensibility Blosxom (pronounced Blossom) is a lightweight yet feature-packed weblog application designed from the ground up with simplicity, usability, and interoperability in mind. . Fundamental is its reliance upon the file system, folders and files as its content database. Blosxom's weblog entries are plain text files like any other. Write from the comfort of your favorite text editor and hit the Save button. Create, edit, rename, and delete entries on the command-line, via FTP, WebDAV, or anything else you might use to manipulate your files. There's no import or export; entries are nothing more complex than title on the first line, body being everything thereafter. . Despite its tiny footprint, Blosxom doesn't skimp on features, sporting the majority of features one would find in any other Weblog application. Additionally, Blosxom 2 includes support for plugins, and thus much more extensive customization. . Blosxom is simple, straightforward, minimalist Perl affording even the dabbler an opportunity for experimentation and customization. And last, but not least, Blosxom is open source and free for the taking and altering. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: au8820 driver
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Marc Loebbers wrote: Hi, I have a au8820 soundcard and i downloaded the driver from http://src.braincells.com/debian/sid/au88xx/ . After finally getting 'modversions.h ' i was able to run 'make install-all' without any error messages. But still there's no sound. After starting kde I am told : Error while initializing sound driver: device /dev/dsp can't be opened (No such device) I don't use this card anymore but I think you had to insmod the opensound driver first. However you have a bigger problem: When I trie 'insmod -f au8820.o' , it tells me : Warning: kernel-module version mismatch ./au8820.o was compiled for kernel version 2.4.18 while this kernel is version 2.2.20-idepci ./au8820.o: unresolved symbol pci_register_driver ./au8820.o: unresolved symbol __release_region ./au8820.o: unresolved symbol unregister_sound_dsp ./au8820.o: unresolved symbol pci_enable_device ./au8820.o: unresolved symbol __check_region ./au8820.o: unresolved symbol kernel_flag ./au8820.o: unresolved symbol unregister_sound_midi ./au8820.o: unresolved symbol register_sound_dsp ./au8820.o: unresolved symbol register_sound_mixer ./au8820.o: unresolved symbol unregister_sound_mixer ./au8820.o: unresolved symbol unregister_sound_special ./au8820.o: unresolved symbol iomem_resource ./au8820.o: unresolved symbol register_sound_special ./au8820.o: unresolved symbol pci_unregister_driver ./au8820.o: unresolved symbol register_sound_midi ./au8820.o: unresolved symbol __request_region ./au8820.o: unresolved symbol ioport_resource ./au8820.o: Hint: You are trying to load a module without a GPL compatible license and it has unresolved symbols. Contact the module supplier for assistance, only they can help you. I don't understand the thing with the 2 kernel versions. Basically what you are trying to do is the equivalent of trying to use a Windows XP driver on Windows 3.1. Successive versions have different architectures so you just can't usea driver compiled for one kernel version on a different version as is. What you need to do is recompile it for your kernel version (2.2.20-idepci) I am ccing this message to the Debian users mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) where someone might be able guide you through the process step-by-step. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Webmin Sys/Hostname.pm broken
On Tue, 7 Oct 2003, Jonathan Markevich wrote: I haven't seen a solution for this anywhere, webmin has been broken in my install for a couple of weeks now, since I did a dist-upgrade to the latest testing. I get this: Error - Perl execution failed Can't locate Sys/Hostname.pm in @INC... I just did a fresh install of webmin on the latest testing and I got no errors, Any clues where that should be? Did a package remove that? It is in the package perl, The version I have is 5.8.0-18 Is anyone using Webmin? Several people :) -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Games for 1-2 year old child. Recommendations wanted.
On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, klaus imgrund wrote: I know that this is probably flamebait - but is there any specific reason a 1-2 year old child has to play with a computer? I know that all the geeks have proof that this actually improves social interaction but I am a little old fashioned. Yes playing outside with other children, reading a book with Pappa and Mummy or visiting grandparents, etc. are all more worthwhile activities for small children. In fact they do us a great service by getting us off our computers. But I'd rather my daughter played with computers than watched TV. She is not even 2 but already has memorised many advertising jingles. I know we live in a consumer society but this is disgusting. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Games for 1-2 year old child. Recommendations wanted.
On Mon, 6 Oct 2003, Pigeon wrote: When I were a lad my parents would only let me watch Play School or the test card, then later let me watch the other children's programmes that came between Play School and the news. It was quite an achievement to get them to let me watch Doctor Who. These programmes were all on BBC1, so no adverts. I wasn't allowed to watch the commercial ITV channel, and only glimpsed the occasional advert at a friend's house. The only thing I regret about this is the amount of Doctor Who I missed. I grew up in England too and as I child I was so jealous of my American cousins. In the early '80s in a certain town near Pittsburgh you could watch Scooby-Doo three times a day if you planned your TV schedule appropriately. And what did we have? Ok Dangermouse was good. But those weird Czechoslavakian abstract expressionist cartoons? I still cringe when I hear the words Film Board of Canada. Rolf Harris's Cartoon Time was a weekly oasis but during the weekdays we patiently endured Jackanory and John Cravens' fricking Newsround for a brief sweet glimpse of Space Sentinels or Hong Kong Phooey. My contemporaries and I hated it. My parents didn't mind Dr. Who but at that age I wanted cartoons dammit and I would have accepted any amount of corporate brainwashing to get them. Of course I am a better man for it now. And in writing this I have gotten deeply nostalgic for the Magic Roundabout (which would melt the brains of Pokemon-addled American children.) but I would want a regime a little less severe than the BBC for my Shailaja. A few ads here and there are ok, its the relentless barrage I take exception too. The television regulating authorities ought to legislate that the PDC code information should contain a flag to indicate whether the current material being transmitted is programme content, advertising or trailers. This could then be decoded by the receiving apparatus to mute the sound and blank the screen during adverts. Broadcasters would be fined $100,000 per frame with a wrong flag. The advertisers would hate it, but fsck 'em. The viewers hate the adverts, and we're in the majority, by a long long way. That would never fly over here where even the ostensibly public broadcasting service is slipping in ads. Luckily thanks to technology it may not matter. God bless Tivo and Netflix. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Maildir with uw-imapd
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003, Shane Hickey wrote: Well, I removed the ~/mbox file, and now all the mail goes to /var/mail/username, which is to be expected, however I can't get it to deliver to ~/Maildir. Is there a config file for uw-imapd that I need to edit, to tell it to deliver to Maildir? /etc/c-client.cf See the documentation in /usr/share/doc/libc-client2001 (or 2002 or whatever you've got.) -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Maildir with uw-imapd
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003, Juri Haberland wrote: And AFAIK UW-IMAP can *only* work with mbox files, *not* with Maildirs. The Debian uw-imapd was patched to support maildir. However recently that support was removed so the original poster may or may not have it. You may also want to look at courier-imapd, which uses only maildir, and is more configurable. ...or Dovecot which is even more configurable. (It supports mailbox and maildir for instance.) -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Eric A Hagglund and Thomas Whalen please fix your email
If either of you gentlemen are reading this, you submitted bugs against webmin but I can't respond because mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] respectively is bouncing. Please fix the problem or use an alternative address. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: udeb
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003, M.Balakrishna Pillai wrote: hi all, can somebody explain (or a pointer to the details of) udeb package and its difference with deb packages. with regards M.Balakrishna Pillai A udeb (with the u representing micro I suppose) is just a stripped down .deb for use with the new Debian installer being developed for sarge. As space is at a premium in installation media, all the extra unnecessary stuff like documentation is left out in a udeb. In all other respects it is the same as a normal .deb. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
New unofficial unofficial pine packages
I have updated my unofficial unofficial pine packages in response to some security problems which have recently been discovered with pine. A buffer overflow exists in the way unpatched versions of Pine prior to 4.57 handle the 'message/external-body' type. The Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures project (cve.mitre.org/) has assigned the name CAN-2003-0720 to this issue. An integer overflow exists in the Pine MIME header parsing in versions prior to 4.57. The Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures project (cve.mitre.org/) has assigned the name CAN-2003-0721 to this issue. Both of these flaws could be exploited by a remote attacker sending a carefully crafted email to the victim that will execute arbitrary code when the email is opened using Pine. You can find instructions for downloading my packages at http://www.braincells.com/open/ If you are using an earlier version please upgrade ASAP. One change I had to make in this version was to use the internal static c-client lib instead of the Debian package. I don't think it will make any difference but if you notice any weird problems, please let me know. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Debian on IBM Thinkpad X24
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: So I got myself one of these nifty things. It's really nice but it won't be perfect until I can get Debian on it. Thanks to all those who replied. I now have the thinkpad dual-booting between Win2K (though I don't imagine much use for it.) and Debian. Hooking up a CD or floppy drive I'd already rejected as it would have been too boring and cost extra money. The suggestion to use a USB keychain drive was a good one. I definitely want to get one of these to store my GPG key and other sensitive data on but I'll do that later some time. I decided to go with Installing via TFTP. It is very straightforward (though the documentation I found was as usual not 100% accurate.) The one hurdle I faced was shrinking the windows partition to make room for Linux. Luckily IBM uses FAT32 instead of NTFS so I was able to use GNU parted. The Debian boot floppies don't have parted (the new Installer I'm told will.) so I had to actually start the installation process with Red Hat 9. After resizing and partitioning the drive I stopped that and started the Debian install. It went without a hitch. Even installing LILO on the MBR was uneventful which impressed me because I recall you had to do some voodoo with boot sectors to get Windows and Linux to co-exist in the past. After installing a minimal woody system I dist-upgraded it to sarge. So far though the only things I haven't configured are the wireless networking and the modem. The first should be very easy but the second could be a problem as it is a winmodem. But neither is very important to me right now. Everything else configured without a hitch. I'll write a full step-by-step HOWTO soon. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Installing Debian on IBM Thinkpad X24
So I got myself one of these nifty things. It's really nice but it won't be perfect until I can get Debian on it. The problem is doesn't have a floppy or cd drive. I did notice it can boot from the network. Would it be possible to do some kind of TFTP type deal? It's running Win2k now fwiw. (I know I could just get a PCMCIA cd-drive but where's the fun in that?) -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Webmin
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, Mark Maas wrote: That worked, thanks! Btw, that information could have been found in /usr/share/doc/webmin/README.Debian The first place you should look is /usr/share/doc/packagename/README.Debian for any Debian quirks. Some packages also have a NEWS.Debian for important thing you should know about a particular version but that's a fairly new development. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
