Re: netstat / masquerading
David Fokkema wrote: Hi group, I was used to display masqueraded connections with netstat -M but now, under Woody, I get no support for 'ip_masquerade' on this system. I set up masquerading with iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o $BADIF -j MASQUERADE What do I have to do to see the masqueraded connections? Regards, David Try 'cat /proc/net/ip_conntrack'. Not very beautiful, but at least the information is reliable. hth, /johan -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can't login on console with ctrl-alt-Fn
snip Where do I go to fix the console keyboard mapping? Would this be in /etc/environment? The CTYPE env does the trick for me (getting my scandinavian keyb to work right). Install 'localeconf', if you are unfamiliar with the system view of it. It's a little tool which tells you about locale envs. hth, /johan -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE vs. Gnome
Some thoughts... (gnome2, Kde3) I myself use gnome2 KDE: good -Better integration -Good looking -Konqueror inegration -Easy to use -Consistent naming KDE: bad -Arts -Bad support in Konqueror -DisKusting names Gnome:good -Easier to choose between apps (as in easier not to use Konq. for example) -Nautilus2 -Nice applets panels -Gdm2 looks good -Inconsistent naming (as in freedom of naming) Gnome:bad -Bad consistency in menus, settings etc. -WM and DE not integrated -Inconsistent naming (gtk-something, gnome-something, justsomething... never know what uses GTK) /johan GBV wrote: Hi all, I prefer KDE, Gnome seens obsolete, and using gtk lib i´m able to use Gnome appz on KDE with no problems at all, My objective with this message is to gather advantages and disvantages of this two great softwares.. Post your user and developer experience... thks... Guilherme Viebig -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ALSA conf
Howdy! Does someone know what's wrong with my alsa? I installed the module sources and all other important alsa packages. I compile my own kernel and use emu10k1 for sound. Now I just moved the module away. Do I have to disable it in the kernel and recompile? Now I compiled ALSA on top of my current kernel. I get the following at /etc/init.d/alsa start/restart: Starting ALSA sound driver (version none): emu10k1-failed no driver installed. Basically loading the modules results in a lot of unresolved symbols like this: /lib/modules/2.4.20/alsa/snd.o: unresolved symbol register_sound_special_Rbabfcb33 ALSA is horribly documented, if it's gonna be the next de facto standard they have to shape up... Thaks for any help. /johan -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ALSA conf
Yes. That solved it! Many thanks to you. I'm now listening to music through xmms :-) . The functionality of ALSA seems great, I just hope they will make it more user friendly. That's basically what the community needs to concentrate on to bring linux to the desktop. On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 06:46:06PM +0200, Johan Ehnberg wrote: Howdy! Does someone know what's wrong with my alsa? I installed the module sources and all other important alsa packages. I compile my own kernel and use emu10k1 for sound. Now I just moved the module away. Do I have to disable it in the kernel and recompile? Now I compiled ALSA on top of my current kernel. Standard disclaimer: I'm no sort of an expert. If my information is wrong, then I hope someone will correct me. What I've read somewhere, and is hopefully accurate and current, is that in order to make ALSA happy: 1) You must have core sound support installed (in my case it's the module 'soundcore' but I suspect you could have it compiled-in). 2) You must *not* have any other sound *drivers* installed. So if the driver you were using before was a module, unload it, if it was compiled-in... I guess you'd have to recompile without it. 3) Dunno if this is relevant to your case, but I'm using alsa from binary debs, and it required me to upgrade to a 2.4 kernel. And, umm, I doubt I need to mention it, but you do have your ALSA emu10k1.o module compiled and in its appropriate place in the modules directory, right? ALSA is horribly documented, if it's gonna be the next de facto standard they have to shape up... Absolutely right. After I *finally* got it to work, the sound is great; but I found f*%-all documentation for it. Only with the great help of a few people on this list, and some google results from other mailing lists, did I manage to get it going. I still have no clue what the 'options' in /etc/alsa/modutils/ are for... I just know that if I exclude them it works, but if I leave them in it doesn't. HTH -Chris -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ALSA conf
Oh, and a little pointer: To maximize your popularity on this list... avoid top-posting (it kinda screws up the readability of a thread), Top-posting? You mean answering without really replying (header missing)? Or? In my email client (mozilla-mail 1.3b) the mail came in the right place in the thread... I'd like to hear what I could do better, as this is something I haven't heard before. and don't reply off-list unless somebody specifically requests to be Cc'ed. Personally, I don't especially mind that, but I don't particularly need to get two copies. That's listed somewhere in the list policies, and some people tend to get annoyed by it. OK. Good point. I myself like to get a personal copy, so that I really don't miss the mail when it comes. (I filter my inbox, MLs are separate). Sometimes I just don't have the time to search through some 100 mails :-) . /johan -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help! partition table!
Hugo Ideler wrote: It's ext3, but I must add that the formating of wasn't very far when I hit the power-off. But I suppose this won't make much of a difference? Well, if fsck can find something on your drive (=inodes from the earlier filesystem), you might get something. There is a slim chance that this happens, if the first and second filesystems were a) the exact same size and b) ext3. And, the user files are more likely to be at the end of the drive than files written during installation. But isn't it possible to recover files in the style that it is possible to recover files deleted (not shreded)? Deleted files after all don't have an entry in the FAT anymore? Well, if they can be recovered, they obviously have an entry somewhere. That could be a) RAM b) some other cahce c) backup FATs d) FAT (marked as deleted). Dunno exactly. I also had some important data in my ~/Mail folder. Mail from my pop account, so it's not remotely stored. And I of course was stupid and lazy enough to not back things up. So i'd be happy enough if I could just recover my home directory. :) As a last resort, you might try to destroy the beginning of the fs, which seemed to be the case in the swap-recover case. fsck might find something after mkswap for example. Knoppix rules for this purpose. (And you'll get a great linux show-off distro, too! :-) ) Other than this, I believe that you have learnt the same lesson as many others (including me). If you're intrested, I can give you some simple backup scripts that I use. Check http://www.ehnberg.net/johan/files/scripts and get rsync. Placing them in /etc/cron.daily makes everything automatic. hth, /johan --Azaghal From: Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Hugo Ideler [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Help! partition table! Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 00:34:37 +0200 Whoops... That's a bad one. Really evil. So you wrote a new filesystem over your last one? A partition itself can be found again when it disappears from the disklabel, but this is different. AFAIK, the data (or probably 99% of it) is still there, on your partition, but there's no filesystem to tell you where to look. If you're talking about /etc/whatever files, a way of finding the data is to read the raw partition and filter out something you remember. Something like 'cat /dev/hda2 |grep [whatever]' might give you some answers. It takes time and gives only one line... Someone else might know the tools better that I do. But I strongly believe it's much easier to reinstall and remember how you configured it. Also, before you do anything, you might want to listen to other people's ideas too, first. :-) hth, /johan -foot note: forgot to CC mailinglist!- _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: config file for Kernel compile
/boot/config-[your kernel] contains the old config. you can a) 'cp /boot/config-[your kernel] /usr/src/[kernel source]/.config' and 'make oldconfig' there. b) 'make-kpkg -config=menuconfig kernel-image' and choose Load configuration from file in menuconfig and specify /boot/config-[your kernel]. hth, /johan Curtis Vaughan wrote: One user on this list stated that I can just take my old kernel config file and copy to the new tree (?). I assume that he meant by this that I should copy it to those directories where I am compiling the kernel. But in which folder exactly and I assume this is prior to running make-kpkg -config=menuconfig kernel-image. For the sake of information, I untar the kernel in /usr/src, then create a link to it as linux. I go into the linux directory (i.e., /usr/src/linux) and then run the aforementioned command. Curtis -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: iptables + dhcp_client
Tom Allison wrote: I can't seem to find anywhere that this is specifically mentioned, but... If I have a script of iptables rules... (/etc/network/if-up.d/) And I'm running as a dhcp_client... How do I know when my dhcp assigned IP address has changed and re-run the iptable rules script? install dhcp3, it has the features you want, and the new IP can be used in a script through dhcp3. And to add another level of complexity to the matter, I have one machine that runs a pcmcia network card as well. I wasn't sure if this was somehow built into the Debian infrastructure so I thought I should ask. Err... and that machine should do what exactly? You want to make the card work? Install the kernel pcmcia package, and pcmcia tools like cardmgr etc. -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: iptables + dhcp_client
Is this in 'man dhclient-script' under /etc/dhclient-exit-hooks ? It appears that I have to write up my own script, yes? Yes, you'll have to write your own script, but it's not difficult. It's the same as giving commands through a terminal, you just Get More Functionality (tm) and Make the Computer Do Your Job (tm) :-) . Just sit back and relax while you watch everything go wrong... It works! It works great. But it's has the same issue of being a dhcp client with an iptables firewall on it. But If the first part is true, then the issue of it being pcmcia is moot. Yes? Pcmcia NICs appear as normal cards to the firewall software. It's should be no problem. Btw, if you use a dhcp system, you seem to be setting up pretty complex firewalls. Or have you tried using (iptables) with -i and -o? No IP needed. Rules are bound to interfaces (in-interface and out-interface) instead. No scripts. These are totally sufficient for local only firewalls. I'd like to hear about this, I've been wondering about some SNAT and DNAT rules in iptables myself. They can't be used with -i and -o... hth, /johan -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help! partition table!
Whoops... That's a bad one. Really evil. So you wrote a new filesystem over your last one? A partition itself can be found again when it disappears from the disklabel, but this is different. AFAIK, the data (or probably 99% of it) is still there, on your partition, but there's no filesystem to tell you where to look. If you're talking about /etc/whatever files, a way of finding the data is to read the raw partition and filter out something you remember. Something like 'cat /dev/hda2 |grep [whatever]' might give you some answers. It takes time and gives only one line... Someone else might know the tools better that I do. But I strongly believe it's much easier to reinstall and remember how you configured it. Also, before you do anything, you might want to listen to other people's ideas too, first. :-) hth, /johan Hugo Ideler wrote: My disk layout: hda1: Windows XP 10 GB hda2: Debian 3.0 40 GB I've been happily using debian 3.0 woody for 2 weeks now. I decided it was time for an adventure and decided to install sarge unstable to my scsi drive. I booted the cdrom, and had fdisk write the partition table to my scsi drive. then it promted for a disk to install to, it listed two paritions/disks. I *thought* this was my scsi disk, but it turned out to be my IDE disk. I choose disk/partition 2 (it was labeled something like /dev/discs0/part1/) and had 'default' appended. I got the message writing inodes... and saw my IDE led activity going red and my scsi jaz drive was showing no activity. I immeadiately noticed my mistake and hit the power off button. Then I tried booting up, lilo started fine, and I selected Linux. it booted up to the level of: loading NFS, mounting root on 02:03... kernel panic failure, or something in that style, either way I figured my linux partition was crapped up. I am now in my Windows XP system. Please, I beg you, help me recover my linux files, I spent soo much time configuring it all and finally getting it to work, and will promise never to do something stupid as this again. :-/ please oh please. --Azaghal. _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Nvidia driver
Willem-Jan Meijer wrote: Hello again, Now i've built the nvidia package and I installed it, dselect says it's installed correctly, But now I don't know how get the driver installed so I can use the driver with X The module should now appear in 'modconf' under video. Then all you have to do is 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86' -Choose nvidia driver -Choose NOT to enable GLcore -Choose NOT to enable DRI -Make sure that GLX is enabled hth, /johan -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DVD player
Hi! Dvdnav should depend on dvdread, which in its turn recommends you to install css functionality. There's a script included for this: /usr/share/doc/libdvdread2/examples/install-css.sh Another possibility is to add some package rep. which includes this support. Look at www.apt-get.org. The Videolan and Mplayer package collections should both have the required deb for you. Good luck. hth, /johan Jack Pistachio wrote: I have an USB HP DVD+RW which is working well so far. I have yet to be able to view any commercial DVDs with it yet. Tried xine from 3.0r0 with dvdnav, which I believed includes css abilities. I get the following errors: libdvdcss error: css error: ioctl_ReadCopyright failed, make sure DVD ioctls were compiled in libdvdcss error: css test failed *** Zero check failed in ifo_read.c:301 for vmgi_mat-zero_3 = 0x01 xine-panel: PLAY xine_play: xine open dvd://VTS_01_1.VOB, start pos = 0, start time = 0 (sec) input_dvd: Could not read Copyright Structure input_dvd: Unable to find VTS_01_1.VOB on dvd. input_file: trying to open subtitle file '//VTS_01_1.VOB' xine: cannot find input plugin for this MRL I've also tried ogle and ran the script in /usr/share/doc/ogle-mmx/examples/install-css.sh to incorporate copyright handling abilities. This program exits with similar messages: libdvdcss error: css error: ioctl_ReadCopyright failed, make sure DVD ioctls were compiled in libdvdcss error: css test failed *** Zero check failed in ifo_read.c:301 for vmgi_mat-zero_3 = 0x01 --- snip --- ogle_nav: nav_read.c:205: navRead_DSI: Assertion `dsi-dsi_gi.zero1 == 0' failed. It seems the problem is somewhere with libdvdcss or some missing css handling library/package. Any help??? -jackp __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrade to KDE 3.1
If you just have the debs, and only want to update one machine, the right way is to download the debs and install the using dpkg. Then to keep up to date you might want to add the repository from where you got the packets from to your sources.list. deb http://download.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/latest/Debian/ woody main seems to have them. hth, /johan Sharninder wrote: hi all, I have been using kde 2.2 which comes with woody since a long time now. But recently i downloaded all the 250 MBs of backported debian packages of KDE 3.1 from ftp.kde.org. And i have them on a comp. somewhere on my network. Now, i want to upgrade my personal desktop to kde 3.1. I downloaded all the files from the kde server to my server and have ftp access to it. What line do i insert in my sources.list to apt-get update and install the kde update on all the desktops from the server itself. And what command should i give to update everything.I have downloaded the whole /pub/kde/stable/* hierarchy from kde's servers Sharninder Singh National Institute Of Management, Calcutta -- 'M.C.S.E - Minesweeper Consultant Solitaire Expert' -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrade to KDE 3.1
Sharninder wrote: If you just have the debs, and only want to update one machine, the right way is to download the debs and install the using dpkg. Then to keep up to date you might want to add the repository from where you got the packets from to your sources.list. deb http://download.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/latest/Debian/ woody main as i said .. i have already mirrored the ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.1/Debian/* hierarchy using wget -c -r ...Now i want to use this to install kde3.1 to my desktop. There are more than 250MBs of debs. Can't I just give the name of some metapackage like kde .. and install everything. Sharninder Singh National Institute Of Management, Calcutta Oh, sorry I understood you wrong. This should mean that you also have the requred packages and release files. The line deb ftp://[your server]/[location of mirror root] woody main Should do the trick. I have never tried making a personal mirror myself though. Then install the kde metapackage and whatever else you want. apt-get update apt-get install kde [and whatever...] hth, /johan -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel compile for dhcpd
Hello! I had the same problem once, and it turned out you need to compile in some extra functions. At least CONFIG_FILTER (Socket filtering) was required. There might have been other options too, but I don't remember which right now. hth, /johan Curtis Vaughan wrote: When I recompiled the kernel for one server, dhcpd would not work. According to the error I didn't compile the kernel for certain aspects of dhcpd. However, when I went through all the configuration items in menuconfig I couldn't find what it seemed to be requiring. What in fact do I need to check for? Curtis Vaughan North Pacific Corporation WashTech (CWA Local 37083) IWW x353203 -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Nvidia Geforce 2 capability's not fully used
You're using non-accelerated drivers. Download the nvidia-kernel-src and nvidia-glx-src packages and install the accelerated driver. This is just sad, as it could all be done automagically, but nvidia won't provide docs and/or source to the community. :-( You might also take a look at the apt-get.org linked deb rep.. There were some nvidia packages ready for use. Section Device Identifier Generic Video Card Driver nv This should be nvidia after you've installed the driver. And remove the lines which load dri and glcore. I installed kernel support for AGP. Turn this off. The nvidia kernel module has it. I think i'm missing something in xf86config-4 but I don't know what. How do I set this so I can run tuxracer? hth, /johan -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel-sourcecode directory
Ok. So this is what you have to do: Install kernel-source, which should be the same as the kernel running. cd /usr/src tar -jxf kernel-source-[your kernel] ln -s kernel-source-[your kernel dir] linux cd linux make menuconfig Choose load an alternative conf - /boot/config-[your kernel] Exit and save Now go on with the installation of nvidia. As I said, this sux. Don't buy nvidia. I did, and I won't do it again. ATI seem to help XFree86 with drivers. Just ask if I didn't make my self understandable. :-) hth, /johan Willem-Jan Meijer wrote: Hello for the 3rd time today, I've downloaded the nvidia-kernel-src and nvidia-glc-src and read the documentation. You have to give a command wich gives this result: We do not seem to be in a top level linux kernel source directory tree. Since we are trying to make a kernel package, that does not make sense. Please change directory to a top level linux kernel source directory, and try again. (If I am wrong, and this is indeed a top level linux kernel source directory, then I have gotten sadly out of date with current kernels, and you should upgrade kernel-package) So I downloaded the kernel-source-2.4.18 and installed that package. I searched my computer but I can't find the correct directory. I still get this message. Does someone know where to find this directory/how to install the nvidia drivers? HTH, Willem-Jan Meijer -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: secondary root account
Errol Neal wrote: Hello, I would like to know how to setup a secondary account on a Linux system that would have the same abilities and privledges as the root user, say an account such as root2. I do not want to use sudo, because the people I work for do not want to use sudo before every command. Does anybody have any suggestions? Well, using root for normal daily stuff is not a good idea blah blah blah. You probably know that. So what you could do is add a normal user to the group 'root'. You'll get access to all files which are owned by the group root. If you want more, this user can use the tool fakeroot to look good to programs. But there is only one root user possible as far as I know. hth, /johan -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Beginner help
I have downloaded Debian and want to set up an old PC as a server which will initially serve a PC and an X-box. Will it be the gateway for these also? To connect to the internet I'll be using an Alcatel Speedtouch USB modem. My question is this, how do I set up Debian?!? OK, that's a big question. To start with, do I choose a normal install or a 2.4 kernel install (thinking of the USB modem, I downloaded a Linux driver for it. TAR file?). Depends on the driver. If it's not supported by the kernel itself you'll have to install the kernel with which you can use your driver. If you don't know, I'd go for 2.4. Secondly, what system do I set it up as? I got this far (mail server, games, SQL server etc) but went down the wrong path, I chose Dial-up system and got truly lost. You're talking about tasksel here? It doesn't matter what you choose, you can always change the selections in dselect or whatever you prefer. Aptitude is a good one, too. Tell me what the machine will do and I can tell you what to install. Basically, in tasksel, you'll want as little as possible. hth, /johan -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GNOME2 questions
1) gdm looks the same as in woody (gnome 1.4). I had the backported gnome 2 packages in woody and I'd like to use the graphical login. Check the archives from debian-gtk. There was some discusion on this. From what I remember, some parts of gnome2 dont build on some archs and the gdm maintainer doesnt want gdm2 in there till everything does build. So till then: deb http://harshy.homelinux.org/files/debian/ ./ deb-src http://harshy.homelinux.org/files/debian/ ./ Yeah, that explains it. Thanks for the link. 2) Something seems to be very slow with gnome-terminal. Scrolling text in it eats my CPU to 100% and the scrolling is slow. Do you have transparecny enabled? That can make it slow. Transparency doesn't seem to affect the performance after it has loaded the background. (= turning it off does't help). 3) I can't find advanced control panel functions like remember window palcement and so on. I hate it when I have to maximize mozilla every time. Are you using metacity or sawfish? From what I remember sawfish does this type of thing, while metacity doesn't. I think. Well, I thought of this as a general question. For example I can't find where to set my home directory in Nautilus. I use sawfish, and in Woody the above mentioned setting were available in gnome control panel under sawfish. I can find sawfish but it seems all useful settings (not just sawfish) have been simplified (read: removed). Anyway, I just love the new nautilus. It's really fast. That was the only con about the old nautilus, it was slow. Thanks for the help! /johan -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GNOME2 questions
I just installed gnome 2 in sid and noticed a few things: 1) gdm looks the same as in woody (gnome 1.4). I had the backported gnome 2 packages in woody and I'd like to use the graphical login. 2) Something seems to be very slow with gnome-terminal. Scrolling text in it eats my CPU to 100% and the scrolling is slow. 3) I can't find advanced control panel functions like remember window palcement and so on. I hate it when I have to maximize mozilla every time. These are actually not critical issues, I'm just playing with sid. I still have woody on another partition. I just wanna hear if others have the same problems, and maybe I'll file a bug. cheers, /johan -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Multiple ethernet cards
I've been experimenting with this stuff, too. So maybe I can help you I put two ethernet cards in my pc. However, i can't ping a remote host from both interfaces (eth0,eth1, after swapping the cable over). I assume you mean a computer that is not in your own network. If that is the case, you are completely right. To reach a computer beyond the specified routes in your routing table, you have to specify a default route. This however, is only possible to specify for one inteface as long as you use the standard 'route' tool. Try the iproute package and read Advanced Routing HOWTO on tldp.org. But I don't see why you need this complex setup. If the remote host is a computer at your LAN, then you've got something set up wrong. If i disable one interface, then i can ping from the other. Both cards are pci of different brands. By disable, do you mean a) ifdown or do you also b) remove the module? The difference could be a) routing problems and for b) rescource conflicts. I've tried giving both cards the same address and different addresses. I think it's because of the routing. netstat -rn: Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Iface 210.50.118.58 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH ppp0 0.0.0.0 210.50.118.58 0.0.0.0 UG ppp0 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U eth0 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U eth1 I want to connect two PCs to the 3rd gateway PC. So this is the 3rd computer? And you want the following setup?: Computer0 eth0 - eth0 Gateway PC ppp0 - ISP Computer1 eth0 - eth1'' And you don't want to use a hub/switch for the internal network, right? So then you'll have to use different address spaces for eth0 and eth1, otherwise it will use the first one even if the desired computer is on another interface. It might be possible to have the addresses in the same space by specifying more rules (eg. 192.168.0.2/32 on eth0, 192.168.0.3 on eth1) but I don't see why it would be worth the extra work. If you have simple address spaces, you won't have to touch the routing table. One computer could be 192.168.0.2, the other 192.168.1.2. The gateway would then be for example 192.168.0.1 and .1.1. I see the first part of my answer wasn't really what you were looking for, but just in case... hth, /johan -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: after knx-hdinstall howto network configure ?
yes it's good but Network is unreachable ? when i make a ping -c 4 10.0.0.138 Can you send me the output of the following commands: ifconfig route dmesg (relevant parts about pcmcia and network card) lspci -vv (network card part) It sounds like the card doesn't get it's address set up correctly. This can be caused by many things. The output from those programs will help. there are many file that contain pcmcia and 2 contains pcmcia xcard (trade name's card) Don't worry about them for now. If the module gets inserted correctly (two high beeps, not a high and a low) then it should be all right. Btw, what is the etho address? I think's it's necessary ? I've never heard of it... it's probably eth0, which would be your computers network interface, but you said that is is 10.0.0.3. Can you tell me what the address for etho is used for? If all configuration is static, the interface is configured in /etc/network/interfaces. There you should have the following entry: auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 10.0.0.3# I believe this was your laptop netmask 255.0.0.0 gateway 10.0.0.138 For name resolving, edit /etc/resolv.conf There you should have your DNS server specified: right... I have that. search netpratique.fr nameserver 62.210.164.14 best regards -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wicked compilation problem
Hi! I'm getting an error at (somewhat) random times when compiling stuff on my machine. For example when I compile my kernel: gcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -o scripts/mkdep scripts/mkdep.c gcc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11 Also when making menuconfig the first time it gave me that error. The second time was ok. With the above example it doesn't help to try again though... Any clue on what's wrong is appreciated! /johan -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wine and IE
Has anybody on the list gotten IE to work under a normal wine install? Is it possible to get different versions to work under different install directories (this would be IDEAL!)? Would you be willing to give me some pointers? Afaik this will not be enough for you. Even if it works, making all the fonts appear correctly etc. would be impossible or at least require a lot of time. It doesn't work here anyway... just tried. hth, /johan -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Deb3.0 - Enabling NAT in kernel?
howdy. I'm using an old Toshiba 200CDS laptop with 48 megs of RAM and a 4 gig HD. (I'm using a laptop specifcally so this router will run silently with no buzzing fans.) For this use, I strongly suggest you buy some old non-laptop computer. A P/100 is more than enough, and they are very silent (or can be modified to be). I use a tweaked HP Vectra for this, it has been running 24/7 for years. With a laptop you might run into some serious heat problems. But your choice. So far I've got the 100mbit PC-Card working and seeing the other machines on the network, and ppp can dial out in demand mode, but the next steps seem very vague. I don't know what I'm supposed to do to make NAT function. The IP-MASQUERADE-Howto tells you exactly what to do. Find it at www.tldp.org. It's not difficult. And you can make the machine your firewall at the same time. (MASQ by itself already works as disguise firewall). There's something in dselect called ipmasq, but it does not work. It seems to install fine, but when it runs I get an error that says IP masquerade not enabled in the kernel which is odd because I thought that was supposed to be automatically available in newer kernels. I suggest you compile your own kernel for this use, as you can get some fun functionality to play with. The Howto tells you more. But afaik there should be MASQ in the default kernels. Have you installed a new kernel with dselect (or any other way) or are you still using the original one? I recommend a 2.4 kernel as it is easier to set up for your task. But some protocols don't work with 2.4 yet, look in the Howto for an updated list. You probably won't use them anyway :=). I've been doing a variety of web searches, trying to figure out how to turn on NAT support, but I am not finding anything specific to Debian 3.0 that explains the process. For example, a Google search on IP masquerade not enabled in the kernel turns up absolutely nothing. What am I supposed to be doing next to make it work? I'd try a new 2.4 kernel or compile it myself using make-kpkg (you'll need kernel-source, kernel-package and probably ncurses for 'make menuconfig'). Read the Howto and you'll have it working in a few hours, and at the same time you'll understand how it works. I hope I answered your questions :=). hth, /johan -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't start X apps from su
Yeah, I got annoyed because of this too. Anyway it's not a big problem. What happens when you 'su' is that your env.vars. are changed to root's. Thus, apps don't know where the user's X session is. What you can do is use the -p flag for su. 'su -p' will preserve the user's env.vars. for the invoked su session (or login for 'su -'). Now you can run X apps as root. If I don't remember it completely wrong, at least Redhat and Mandrake do this by default, so in those distros you don't have to worry about -p, but they might also use some other mechanism. This makes it confusing for someone who's used rh or mdk earlier. hth, /johan Andrej Prsa wrote: Hello List, I have a very-difficult-to-reproduce-but-pertaining problem with accessing X applications (such as nedit) when gaining access via su from some other user's X session. If I log in as root to X, such problem never occurs. But as I don't want to take the name of root in vain, I got used to using su. *Usually* things work, but suddenly, after an indefinite amount of time, it just doesn't work any more with the only statement that it cannot connect to X session. As a side-effect calling mc from su session becomes miraculously black-and-white. If I close all open terminals, restart one and go into another session of su, I could sometimes regain normal su operation and sometimes not. This has been bugging me since I installed Debian (oh, it's 3.0r1 stable), but I lived with it until now... Thanks for your time, Andrej -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Framebuffer logo.
What I did (though not to get rid of the logo), was simply recompile the kernel and package it. I don't like framebuffer (slow under heavy loads, even on a new machine) and disabled it in my own kernel. hth, /johan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any way to *completely disable* the logo when using a framebuffered console, other than just hacking kernel to tell it not to show a logo (which works)? I didn't see anything along the lines of a useful pragma for telling Linux to boot sans logo. I'm not looking for a way to *replace* the logo; I just want it gone, without having to hack the kernel if I can avoid it (hard to keep things standardized that way). If a way doesn't exist, maybe I'll just write a bloody patch. Thanks! -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: please help on adsl sharing
Check the IP-MASQUERADE-Hotwo on www.tldp.org. It's quite easy, and you'll get a firewall at the same time. Janke Dávid wrote: - Original Message - From: Attila Csosz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: GBV [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 9:34 PM Subject: Re: please help on adsl sharing GBV wrote: 1. Your ISP require pppoe? 2. Do your adsl provider use DHCP ? if 1 == true remove the configuration of your internet interface apt-get install pppoeconf type as root: pppoeconf if 2 == true 1 == false edit your /etc/network/interfaces like auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp else My ISP requires pppoe and the ADSL works normal on the server. The problem is the sharing the ADSL with the other computer. Attila I think you can not share one ADSL connection, only if you build a network, and install ipmasq or NAT (depending on kernel version and your preference) on the machine connected to the adsl connection. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.445 / Virus Database: 250 - Release Date: 1/21/2003 -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sound problems
try 'apt-get install xmmsarts' Never used it myself, though. hth, /johan Willem-Jan Meijer wrote: kdemultimedia packages weren't installed yet, I thougt this was a standard package, Set aRts soundserver, sound runs well now and indeed, XMMS crashses :( That's a pity, it looks better than noatun. Is there a way to use XMMS and sound in KDE? HTH, Willem-Jan Op zaterdag 1 februari 2003 11:54, schreef Duncan Baynes: On Sat, 1 Feb 2003 09:32 pm, Willem-Jan Meijer wrote: Hello all, Troubles with sound this time. I did a new installation with debian. I installed the x-server without a gui, added the line deb http://devel-home.kde.org/~nolden/kde stable main to my sources.list I run apt-get update, apt-get install kdm KDE 3.1 was installed with all packages needed, KDE runs well but I don't hear sounds by maximizing, minimizing, and so on. When I run Noatun the same problem. When I start XMMS, sound works well. How do I get sound to KDE ? My soundcard uses the cmpci driver. Kind regards, Willem-Jan Meijer Netherlands Check that you have the Start aRts soundserver on KDE startup box ticked in the Control Center Sound Multimedia Sound System dialog. NOTE: You will probably find that you cannot use XMMS after you enable this! Regards, Duncan Baynes -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CD Burner and ide-scsi emulation
Hmm... dunno if that =scsi part works. I've always used =ide-scsi. This loads the module for me automagically. The module should be (for 2.4 kernels) /lib/modules/2.4.??/kernel/drivers/scsi/ide-scsi.o If the module really isn't found, try installing the kernel-image appropriate for your system, it's a good idea anyway. You'll get some CPU opt's at the same time. hth, /johan Thomas Nyman wrote: Hi I tried to enable ide-scsi emulation but it doesnt work..there is no such module found. I installed woody basically with defaults...so I'm kind of lost as to what to do. --On lördag, februari 01, 2003 22.08.30 +0100 Nicos Gollan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 01 February 2003 21:24, Thomas Nyman wrote: Am an old SuSEr that has just switched to Debian. Can someone give me a helping hand getting hy hdc cd-rom burner working with ide-scsi emulation You just have to use the kernel parameter hdc=scsi (add it to your append line in lilo.conf) and load the ide-scsi module. If you're running a custom kernel make sure you have SCSI generic support enabled either built-in or as a module. -- Got Backup? My GnuPG key id is 4DCAF083 Protect your right to privacy -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X11 stability
In my experience, this sounds like a resource conflict. I've also had about the same problem with nVidia cards using old drivers. The fact that this problem was also in RedHat, would support my theory. I think your GFX card conflicts with your audio card (or some other card). Some specific actions on to the graphics borad freeze the computer. What you can do is: -Try looking in your 'dmesg' and 'lspci' outputs how your cards' resources are configured. The IRQ is important. -Some broken motherboards can also cause this problem; check your BIOS and try moving cards around. -If the computer freezes so that it still answers on pings, and you can ssh to it, but nothing can be done locally it's probably a GFX problem. The KDE sound card error can be solved by loading the appropriate modules for your sound card and adding your user to the 'audio' group. I dunno about the shutdown thing, though. hth, Johan Ehnberg S Yuval wrote: Ever since I installed Debian, I have to hard boot at least 3 times a day, because X windows crashes and hangs the machine. This usually happens when the system is busy installing programs, or doing some other resource consuming job in one of the virtual consoles (X itself included), and I choose to flip between consoles. However, when I used Red Hat 7.1 and even Red Hat 8.0, I could always use Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get out to a console and kill the X process, however, now even this is impossible. May I note that I have experienced this problem both when using an old 2.4.2 Red Hat kernel and when using the newer 2.4.18 kernel supplied with Debian. Another issue is KDE, which locks the system upon startup unless I switch to terminal mode, let it finish loading, and only then switch back to X. The official complaint is that my sound card could not be found. Can this be avoided? Also, I noticed that when the computer is idle, X shuts down automatically after some period of time. How can I cancel this option? -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 486 kernel images
machoamerica wrote: i'm looking through the kernel-image packages and i see packages for all flavors of intel/amd processors except the 486. can i use either kernel-image-2.4.x-386 or kernel-image-2.4.x-586 or do i have to muck around with a kernel-source-2.4.x package? thanks, macho You can't use a kernel compiled for a better machine than you have, but yes, you can compile it for your machine from source. It's not that hard, but it'll take a while on a 486 :=). Anyway, you are safe with the 386 version, and the performance loss shouldn't be noticeable. hth, /johan -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unable to get IP address after new kernel compile
Ajay Gautam wrote: Hello, I compiled 2.4.18 (from the debian disks), and installed it. Unfortunately, when I use the new kernel, I do not get an ipaddress from my cable modem (dhclient eth0), but if I use the old kernel (2.2.20), I am able to get an IP address ? Any idea whats up ? Yup. I think you didn't enable CONFIG_FILTER which is needed by dhclient. Enable this and recompile. It's not enabled by default, I got pretty frustrated before I found out what was wrong :=). hth, /johan -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CDRom and zip drive don't mount
Joris Huizer wrote: I don't know how to get them mounted; I included the /etc/fstab file maybe something is wrong Your fstab file should contain: /dev/hdc /cdrom iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0 for the cdrom drive. Make sure that: -You dont have ide-scsi active (in lilo.conf: append= hdc=ide-scsi) - /cdrom is an existing directory -There's a cdrom in the drive :=) /dev/hdb4 /zip auto rw,user,noauto 0 0 for the zip drive. Make sure that: -You dont have ide-scsi active (in lilo.conf: append= hdd=ide-scsi) - /zip is an existing directory -There's a filesystem on the zip disk. Note that your mount points (/cdrom, /zip) might be different. Zip disks are usually partitioned (don't know why) so that there is one partition (number 4) with all space assigned. Any output from command would help. hth, /johan Thanks in advance, Joris Huizer -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Multiple dhcp client interfaces
Howdy! Has anyone tackled this problem: Two NICs on a computer get their addresses (and nameservers, routers and so on) by dhcp. This causes two problems: 1. The dhclient pid file only shows the pid of the last instance of dhclient. Consequently, doing ifdown -a always leaves one dhclient running, and it's interface still up. 2. The interface which is started later, doesn't get a route to a gateway (the same for both NICs). Both should be available for outbound traffic at the same time. 'route' output: 80.186.64.0 * 255.255.240.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 80.186.64.0 * 255.255.240.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 default ua1d64.elisa.om 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 If anyone's got an idea of how to solve this in a clean way, I'd be happy to hear. Otherwise I'll just script something funny to do the job. /johan -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 80 80 80 80 80 80 ... after new install reboot with SCSI
Emil Hägerlund wrote: Hi, can someone please guide me?! I have a new install with SCSI. Fist stage install goes fine. Linux finds my two SCSI devices and I make my partitions. Store LILO at /dev/sda. I make the root partition bootable. Install tells me to reboot to the continue the install. I do that (Second stage). What I then get is LILO promt cut off to LI or L and then it starts printing 80 in an endless cycle. What can I do? Do I have an error in lilo.conf? I'm new to SCSI. Should I have given any parameters or added any specific modules? Yours Emil You might have to use the global 'linear' option in /etc/lilo.conf. hth, /johan -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: java on woody
AFAIK, blackdown is a version of sun's java. And I haven't seen any debs of sun's java. Just add this line to /etc/apt/sources.list deb ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/linux/devel/lang/java/blackdown.org/debian woody main non-free and select at least the j2re package. hth, /johan GavLac wrote: Hi everyone, which is the best java plugin for my woody? The official from java.sun.com or the blackdown java plugin. I wanna use for example http://go.icq.com with my mozilla and I wanna use stablely Thanx Leslie -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: copy many files filtering extensions
Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Jan 08, 2003 at 04:10:10PM +0100, Mat wrote: I have to periodically copy a lot of files filtering them by their extensions (something like cp * but *.bak). How can I do that (as I can read from cp' man or info page this is not possible)? Thanks Mat Depends on your shell (which globs * before passing it to cp). zsh (of course:) can do this simply: $ cp *~*.bak /blah/ -rob Or, if installing a small program called 'rsync' is not a problem, use it with '--exclude=*.bak'. It's a really cool program btw. Can be used for local copying as well. Hth, /johan -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cloning my debian install onto my new hard disk?
There are a few important steps. I did this on my little server and it worked just the way it should. Read http://www.storm.ca/~yan/Hard-Disk-Upgrade.html and follow the instructions there. It's very straight-forward and not too difficult. Takes some time, though. If you need more info, just ask. Hope this helps! /johan Britton wrote: I would like to copy my entire install onto my new larger hard disk, then set it up to boot there. I have the old disk as master and the new as slave, and I've mounted the slave and used cp -a on the top level directories. The cp -a of 'initrd' directory complained a bit though, and I'm not sure what steps are best to take to make the new drive the one that gets booted from/mounted as root. Does anyone have software to recommend other than cp? What should I do after cp to make initrd setup work right? A report of a recend (good) experience with this task would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Britton Kerin __ GNU GPL: The Source will be with you... always. -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Screen resolution in KDE or Gnome
Joe Bosak wrote: Is there an easy way to switch between screen resolutions when using a GUI like KDE or Gnome? I'm using Debian 3, stable release. - Joe Yes. Configure your xserver ('dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86') and choose the desired resolutions. The highest will be default. In Gnome or KDE, press 'CTRL-ALT +' and 'CTRL-ALT -' to switch between modes. Note that this method will bring you a virtual desktop on other resolutions than the highest. Good for zooming etc. I know madrake has some GUI to do the same as in Windoze (change desktop size and resolution), but I've never needed that function. Hope this helps! /johan -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Print queue manager
Hello! I'm looking for a GUI frontend to manage lpr-ppd queues. Printop seems a bit too primitive, and I can't get it working right. What I need is basically a tool which is able to cancel jobs as normal user. Only one printer is used. And it should be easy to use (unfortunately, I'm not the only one who uses it). Any ideas? I'm running Gnome so GTK is always nice. Also, I'm interested in the differeces between spooling systems, lpr, lprng and lpr-ppd. And what about cups...? I have printing working fine with lpr-ppd so it's not a big deal. Thanks for any help! /johan -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: avi, mpeg
On the site http://marillat.free.fr/ there's no mention of testing, only woody and sid are available. I guess woody should be safe? I myself use woody and use the woody packs from there, they rock! Hope this helps! /johan Lukas Latz wrote: Hi, I'm running testing so I added deb http://marillat.free.fr/ testing main to my sources.list. Checked out what's in there (lots of neat looking stuff) and tried to get some of it with dselect (after updating). updating claims success regarding that site but in dselect *select* the apps just don't show up. any clues? Lukas -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /etc/rc?.d/S*
Is this what you're looking for? update-rc.d my_script start XX 2 3 4 5 . stop YY 0 1 6 . Notice the dots. Place your script in /etc/init.d/ and the rest is obvious. 0..6 are runlevels, XX and YY simply the order (SXX and KYY). Hope this helps! /johan Rus Foster wrote: Hi All, Under debian is there a nice console based app to do the equivalent of ln -s /etc/init.d/foo /etc/rc2.d/S99foo ala chkconfig or ntsysv Rgds Rus -- http://www.fsck.me.uk - My blog http://shells.fsck.me.uk - $120 for a lifetime shell account -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Change Keyboard
Dominic Iadicicco wrote: Anyone Know how to change the keyboard map? I guess it is in /etc/environment the C_TYPE which controls this during startup, but you should use the localeconf package to get the locales generated right. If you mean for X, do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. Hth /johan -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A winmodem problem
Michael P. Soulier wrote: On 03/12/02 Barry Cugley did speaketh: 1. which driver should I try? and No idea. Look at the chip on your card. Conexant (rockwell ?) have drivers for linux. Google for linux (win)modem driver [manufacturer]. -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: audio cd
Dennis Stosberg wrote: Am 03.12.2002 um 16:21 schrieb Bruce Park: I'm having a problem loading any audio cds. I currently have KDE as a desktop and I can run mp3 and ogg files. I know the cables are plugged from the CDRW to the sound card because they work in Windows2000. Is there something speical I need to do because this is a CDRW? CDRW is not different from CD-ROM as long as you don't try to write something. Are you sure that your mixer channels are not muted? Do other sound sources work and/or respond to the mixer controls? Regards, Dennis Also check that you have permission to access the cd in /dev. It is usually as root:cdrom or root:disk, so add your user to that group if it isn't already. Cheers, Johan -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No Umlauts in Gnome Apps
Hello! First, I want to apologize for breaking the thread, but I accidentally deleted the original message... I see this as a general problem with Debian. The locale system doesn't really cover everything needed. Say, it works well as long as you survive with only C as locale. I would file a bug but I don't know if this is a locale or some gtk package problem. I had the same problem earlier (but with öäå, locale fi_FI), and this is my solution: Edit /etc/environment or apt-get install localeconf so that the result is (replace fi_FI@euro with your own locale: de_DE@euro): LANG=C LC_CTYPE=fi_FI@euro LC_NUMERIC=fi_FI@euro LC_TIME=C LC_COLLATE=C LC_MONETARY=fi_FI@euro LC_MESSAGES=C LC_PAPER=C LC_NAME=C LC_ADDRESS=C LC_TELEPHONE=C LC_MEASUREMENT=C LC_IDENTIFICATION=C LC_ALL= Now you'll have working special chars in traditional terminals as well as in GTK apps, but: -Some GTK apps like gnome-terminal don't work (I use xterm instead, which gives öäå) -Other apps start slowly, eg gedit (30 sec. of 100 % CPU usage), but give öäå -Gnome starts up a bit slower (stops for an extra 5 secs on Windowmanager of I remember correctly). -Some Gnome gunctions are really f:d up, like changing icons for launchers. These crash on you completely. If you explicitly set LC_MESSAGES to your own locale, you'll end up seeing your Gnome in German... Hope this helps! Cheers, /johan -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel building for newbies
Chris Lale wrote: Caitrin Torres wrote: Can anyone recommend a tutorial or howto on debian kernel building that'd be suitable for someone who's never built a kernel before? There is an article at http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/ that may help. Also, I like this one, it's very brief: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-post-install.en.html#s-kernel-baking But you'll have to know what to put in your kernel. Hope this helps! /johan -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: installing on vprMatrix
ATI mobility Radeon 7500 should be no prob. download the drivers from ati's site Orinoco miniPCI WIFI card There's at least a driver for the PCMCIA version, it works fine for me. In the kernel, the CONFIG_HERMES should make it work, according to the help screen. Synaptics PS/2 type touch pad On my [d/h]ell Inspiron 5000e it works fine, use PS/2 as protocol. Cirrus Logic Crystal WDM audio I don't know this one, but there's support for Crystal Sound CS4281 and Crystal SoundFusion (CS4280/461x). Try googling... Hope this helps! /johan -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Locales
Bruno Diniz de Paula wrote: Hi, first of all, happy thanks giving to everyone. Now, let's get back to the question... :) I am using locale en_US.ISO-8859-1 and my keyboard layout is us_intl. Special characters written in portuguese are displayed (and of course typed) correctly in almost all applications on Gnome2. The problem arises when I use MGT (Multi-Gnome-Terminal) and GnomeICU. I just can't get the characters the right way in this situations. Any idea why? Thanks, Bruno. Gnome(2) takes its keyboard settings from the X conf. Gnome terminal acts like any other terminal, it depends on the locale settings. Try installing localeconf and select the appropriate locales for you. These are stored in /etc/environment. The keymap is CTYPE. -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Reposting Re: pppconfig?
Look at these: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/networking.html#NETDIALUP I myself don't like ppp or anything that says dial. But sometimes it's not an option not to use it :=). Hope this helps! /johan infotechsys wrote: If people don't have a solution for this would anyone know what document I could read? infotechsys wrote: Hi, I recently installed woody from cds that I bought. I ran pppconfig to get my dial-up connection establish. The problem I'm having is how i initiate the connection. If I start the connection by issuing the command pon and then start my browser followed by trying to connect to google nothing happens. If I start by browser and then go to google it works.The other problem I'm having is that my connection keeps dropping. So every time I go to a different web site my modem dials up again. Is there anyway I can solve these problems? wayne -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gnome Panel won't load
Hi! What can I do when my gnome (1.4 as in woody) panel won't load anymore. I get my bachground and icons but no panel. I suspect this is because of some buggy applets I used (the last time it worked i got a message about some applet not responging). This has happened on two boxes now. The applets I used (on both machines): -Gnome menu -Desktop switcher -Tasklist -Swap,Mem,Cpu,Net monitors -Mailcheck -Diskfree (I believe this might be the problem) -Clock Is there a log for gnome-panel somewhere where I can see error messages? Any other similar experiences? Thanks in advance, Johan -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Semi-fixed] Re: Gnome Panel won't load
I created a new session and got my panel back. So I guess this solves the problem. But it was true, that the diskusage_applet was the problem. Just in case anyone else has the same problem. Johan Ehnberg wrote: Hi! What can I do when my gnome (1.4 as in woody) panel won't load anymore. I get my bachground and icons but no panel. I suspect this is because of some buggy applets I used (the last time it worked i got a message about some applet not responging). This has happened on two boxes now. The applets I used (on both machines): -Gnome menu -Desktop switcher -Tasklist -Swap,Mem,Cpu,Net monitors -Mailcheck -Diskfree (I believe this might be the problem) -Clock Is there a log for gnome-panel somewhere where I can see error messages? Any other similar experiences? Thanks in advance, Johan -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: automatic shutdown on heat problem
Correction: It is under processor type, in the 2.4.19 kernel. Hope I got it correct this time. Quoting Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I believe there is function for that in the kernel. When you configure the kernel before compilation, look under general. You might need some user-space tools to make it work (perhaps apmd). The default debian kernel might also have this already compiled in. Quoting Sven Hartrumpf [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What is the best way to shutdown (power off) automatically a Linux box when the temperature (on motherboard) rises to a critical value due to fan (or AC, ...) failure? (I am sure more people have lost hardware in such situations.) -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: depmod and multi kernel systems
And a second question. Is there any arguments for using ext2 instead of ext3? Cause I can't find any that would make anyone choose ext2 instead of ext3, and still Debian 3.0 installs on ext2. I guess ext3 is getting mature in 2.4 kernels. Accordingly, ext3 can be used using the bf2.4 flavor when installing Woody. I see two reasons to use ext2 instead of ext3: -Ext2 is more mature -Ext3 uses up space for its journal On the other hand -Ext3's journal kicks butt. Cheers, Johan -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Microsoft's plans to kill open source: TCPA
Bob Nielsen wrote: On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 07:52:39PM +1100, Russell wrote: Alan Chandler wrote: If we then have a situation where Windows software has all these controls built in to it - with keys being controlled back at Redmond, and Linux with the keys being controlled by the owner of the PC (I am assuming the open source community will still use the facilities provided by the hardware - but will ensure that the software installer has the control) - then won't this just provide greater commercial pressure for people to switch to open source than now? If intel or anyone else puts the DRM controls in their chips, it'll sure be a big incentive to buy some chinese or russian clones without DRM. M$ relies on x86 hardware. Linux can be ported to anything. Someone like Sun or some other hardware maker should mass produce non x86 PCs. That'll jettison M$ *and* intel from everyones worries. Hopefully AMD will make non-TCPA x86 chips rather than caving-in to the M$/Intel collusion. I read some stuff about this all and as it seems now: -TCPA can be (partially) turned off, the 'piracy detection' feature would still be active -The keys would _not_ be in the hands of the users because: 1) Signing is only available for lotsa $$$ 2) The use of keys doesn't help much - everyone would have to register their personal copy of linux. That's not linux anymore. And every time you recompile you have to register again. 3) If M$ handles signing they probably won't make it easy for linux users. Luckily, they propably won't. But who knows... talk about antitrust. -TCPA will not be architechture dependent. In the beginning it will be a chip for motherboards. Then it will be integrated in x86 CPUs. Eventually everyone's gonna have one in their watch. That is, if they succeed. I'll never buy anything which is DRM / TCPA / Palladium enabled. -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: usb mouse
Matthias Hentges wrote: Am Son, 2002-11-03 um 15.37 schrieb Alexey Chetroi: Hello All, I've installed hotplug package to get my usb mouse working and it works under X untill next reboot. After reboot I have to replug my mouse otherwise there won't be any devices under /dev/input I'm using kernel-image-2.4.18-686 kernel with devfs enbled. What am I doing wrong? some pointers? Just a guess: did you tell modconf to load the USB modules at boot time? Do a lsmod after booting and check for USB modules. If not, you'll have to run modconf and select the appropriate modules to be loaded at startup. Usb drivers and mousedev should do the trick. -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Microsoft's plans to kill open source: TCPA
Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: [ I've pruned the giant list of innappropriate and off-topic CCs ] On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 11:57:51PM +0100, Hauke Goos-Habermann wrote: Microsoft plans to kill all OpenSource software on hardware level. This technology is called TCPA. FUD! FUD FUD FUD FUD!!! This is completely all wrong. Recently a talk was given at MIT by one of the designers of Microsoft Palladium (their trusted computing initiative) at MIT. I was at the talk, which received lots of coverage on sites like slashdot and arstechnica. Palladium and TCPA will *NOT* kill open source. I am going to repeat that, because some people are too thick-headed to understand. Palladium and TCPA will *NOT* kill open source!!! One of the absolutely fundamental restrictions on Palladium is that *all* software that runs on non-Palladium system *must* run on Palladium systems. Remember that backward-compatibility is the only reason MS has been able to sustain their monopoly. You can still run software written for the IBM XT on your WinXP boxes. Microsoft cannot throw that backward compatibity away, and they know this. Hardware support for Palladium will be user-configurable via a BIOS setting. It can be completely disabled. The only negative thing I see comming out of TCPA is that content producers (Hollywood, etc) will release copies of their movies/music/whatever for download in a format that can only be accessed on TCPA systems. This is the major threat. Personally, I would not be bothered by this. However, some people might. For this, I think the only way to prevent this is to get lots of people to either refuse to use Palladium or run systems that don't support it. If the content producers can say well, we'll happily give up the potential customers on Linux, MacOS, UNIX, whatever if we can get all the Windows Palladium users. They'll only be able to do this if the population of non-Palladium-using people is small. There are other negatives to palladium that I certainly dislike, but I think the above is what's going to be most noticable by users initially. Palladium is really more about protecting the rights of copyright holders. You'll be able to run whatever software you want on it. In fact, aside from potential patent issues, I didn't hear anything at the talk that would prevent anyone from writing an open source implementation of the Palladium Nexus (which is the DRM pseudo-OS that runs aside the normal OS kernel). noah Yes, you really sound like you've attended a Microsoft talk. :=). Congratulations, you have been brain washed. The fact stands: Linux won't maybe load at all on a TCPA enabled hardware, eventually. And TCPA can't be completely turned off. And non-trusted clients (read open source) will not be able to read files created on a trusted machine. And so on. There are other people and organisations who also have talks on this technology. Not all of them are Microsofts... And we know how much their word counts. They said Palladium technology stops viruses and spam. Yeah, right. Cheers, johan -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using LP as LP
Yes. Simply copy the plain text to your printer port entry in /dev. The standard Parallel port (first) is /dev/lp0 Make sure you have the right modules installed (lp, if I remember it correctly). Some printers need an EOF sent to the printer to start printing. Hope this helps! DSC Siltec wrote: Hi -- I have a line printer, set up as a line printer on COM Parallel port 1. The printer is an HP DJ1120c, which can interpret plain text as plain text and print it out. Is there a way to easily send the text to the printer? -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Visualizing debian releases
Hi! I'd like to share some thoughts with you: I work with people and computers, and I've come to like debian most of the linux dists. So what I do (and would like to do even more) is bring linux to users who havent seen (or even heard about!) linux before. To present how the different debian releases are related, I'd like to visualize with a graph. The graph represents package versions (and overall functionality): Debian GNU/Linux releases: § §§ §§ § §§§ § §§§ § § § § §§§§§ § § § § __--'' § § § § §__--'' §§ §__--'' § § __--'' § __--'' __--'' Legend: §§§ Unstable _-' Testing *** Stable (Official Releases) If all this makes sense, others can hopefully also benefit from my idea. E.g. someyhing like this could also be used to improve the page on http://www.debian.org/releases/ I'd like to know what you think of this idea, if it is correct at all, and if something could be improved. Maybe there is something (better) already? Thanks for your time. Cheers, johan -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Visualizing debian releases
As far as I know, sarge was born as woody released. It was an identical copy. So the branching is wrong or misleading. Am I right? And I'd like to give a really easy-to-understand picture. What I'm looking for is perhaps more general: - Not release specific - No updates required - Works as a general view of how Debian releases are organized - Does not relate to changing statistics such as number of packages - Relates to how it works in practice - Unstable is a random (averagely growing) graph - Illustrates how the packages are accepted into Debian and - What makes Debian so impressively stable :=) I can see a few problems in my own graph, though: - The balance of maturity (stability) and functionality (new features) is confusing because the stability is not illustrated, and unstable appears as the most feature-rich release. - Changes in release policy might make the graph (especially for the stable branch). J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote: On Sun, Oct 27, 2002 at 18:32:20 +0100, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote: I suspect the following may be a bit clearer: sid--- \ \ \ \ \ === etch \ \ == sarge ==o| 3.1 ** | | woody ooo| 3.0 ***|### || || 2.2 potato **|| [moved off to archive.debian.org] || || %$ where - == unstable| == release of a new stable = == testing % == release of woody as 3.0 * == stable $ == release of sarge as 3.1 # == oldstable \ == branching of of a new testing release; older testing (ooo) slowly frozen to stability -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: modules
Unlike in RH, there is no autodetection of ISA cards in Debian Woody. The easiest and most straight forward way is to use modconf. There you find the necessary modules to make your card work. You'll need ISA working (pnp) and the sound card module itself. If you remember which modules were loaded under RH, just install them. I believe there is a package with sndconfig (the one from RH) that you can install. This might not be the optimal solution, though. florin wrote: Like a new user of Debian(Woody) I dont know how it work.For ex. my box(celeron 500) with sound card isa? doesnt play under kernel 2.2.20-idepci(it play with SuSE 7.1 and RH 7.3) Is it any line command for sound configuration(like sndconfig-RedHat) or another method.What about modules, how can I proceded for install the new if it's necessary for sound? Thanks for any help ! -- Johan Ehnberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows? No... I don't think so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wheel Mouse
Hi! Is there a good way to get my mouse wheel working (under X) on my woody? Another thing I was wondering is why my mouse stops working under X when I install gpm. /johan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]