Re: how to find the specs of a monitor
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 07:56:01PM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: [...] It is not stupid at all. The problem is that I do not know the model of this monitor. All it says on the LCD panel is that it is a Dell monitor. There is no other information like model number etc., nothing on the back or bottom or anywhere? WOW! okay. do this X -configure then follow its instructions for starting a dual-head system. It probably won't work, but what I'm after is the /var/log/Xorg.0.log it produces. There may be monitor information in that log file... When I run X -configure The Xorg.0.log is about 20 Kb. Since it is a bit big, I uploaded it to http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/Xorg.0.log_20070621.txt The error messages that appear on the command line are X Window System Version 7.1.1 Release Date: 12 May 2006 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.1.1 Build Operating System: UNKNOWN Current Operating System: Linux kusumanchi.mae.cornell.edu 2.6.18-4-686 #1 SMP Wed Feb 21 16:06:54 UTC 2007 i686 Build Date: 04 April 2007 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Thu Jun 21 14:20:03 2007 List of video drivers: ark v4l apm i810 sisusb nsc ati cyrix trident i128 vga savage via radeon tseng tga chips voodoo tdfx glint mga s3virge fglrx rendition siliconmotion atimisc r128 dummy newport imstt neomagic vmware cirrus s3 nv sis i740 fbdev vesa Backtrace: 0: X(xf86SigHandler+0x84) [0x80c4354] 1: [0x40017420] 2: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so(R200Probe+0x121) [0x405e9fd1] 3: X(DoConfigure+0x20c) [0x80b60dc] 4: X(InitOutput+0x66a) [0x80a018a] 5: X(main+0x276) [0x806e486] 6: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xc8) [0x4010eea8] 7: X(FontFileCompleteXLFD+0xa9) [0x806d9d1] Fatal server error: Caught signal 11. Server aborting thanks raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X problems
Zach wrote: I remember when I had my old Nvidia card I could use 'nv' or 'nvidia' driver to get hardware acceleration working. Any idea how to do so for my ATI card? To enable hardware acceleration, In the Module section of xorg.conf you should load dri. So the corresponding stanza in /etc/X11/xorg.conf will look like Section Module # bunch of load statements here Load dri # bunch of load statements here EndSection hth raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: screenshot
Frank McCormick wrote: Anybody know of relatively simple software to take screenshots of the dexktop or of windows of applications. Gnome-utils contains a screenshot maker but its a 6 meg download and am 18 meg installation!! To take screenshot you can use gimp. open File - Acquire - Screenshot, choose Single Window or Whole Screen, then click Grab. Now your next mouse click will capture the window or screen clicked on as an image in the GIMP. Crop and resize the image as necessary, using the instructions at http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Lite_Quickies/#crop My favorite program for screenshots is ksnapshot. But that might be heavy for you. hth raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
how to find the specs of a monitor
I am trying to setup a dual screen from a laptop with another LCD monitor. However, this new monitor came without any manuals, documentation etc., I know that it is working but I just dont know the specs. How can I find out what its Horizontal frequency and vertical refresh rates etc. are, so that I input them into the monitor section of xorg.conf file? If it matters, the laptop as such runs Etch (stable). Any ideas? thanks raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: screenshot
Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 02:56:47PM -0400, Frank McCormick wrote: Anybody know of relatively simple software to take screenshots of the dexktop or of windows of applications. Gnome-utils contains a screenshot maker but its a 6 meg download and am 18 meg installation!! There's always xwd in the xbase-clients package (which is probably installed already). Cons: - It writes in .xwd format. Only. not png or even jpeg. xwd only. But gimp and others should have no problem reading it. - Command-line only. No GUI. Not a real issue. You can always use xwd | convert - screenshot.jpg hth raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to find the specs of a monitor
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 03:37:19PM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: I am trying to setup a dual screen from a laptop with another LCD monitor. However, this new monitor came without any manuals, documentation etc., I know that it is working but I just dont know the specs. How can I find out what its Horizontal frequency and vertical refresh rates etc. are, so that I input them into the monitor section of xorg.conf file? If it matters, the laptop as such runs Etch (stable). Any ideas? try the read-edid package and specifically get-ided | parse-edid as root should give some good information. This is what I am getting with the above command. I think it is giving information about only one monitor. If I am correct that information belongs to the laptop's monitor. What about the external monitor's specs? $sudo get-edid | parse-edid parse-edid: parse-edid version 1.4.1 get-edid: get-edid version 1.4.1 Performing real mode VBE call Interrupt 0x10 ax=0x4f00 bx=0x0 cx=0x0 Function supported Call successful VBE version 300 VBE string at 0xc0248 ATI ATOMBIOS VBE/DDC service about to be called Report DDC capabilities Performing real mode VBE call Interrupt 0x10 ax=0x4f15 bx=0x0 cx=0x0 Function supported Call successful Monitor and video card combination does not support DDC1 transfers Monitor and video card combination supports DDC2 transfers 0 seconds per 128 byte EDID block transfer Screen is not blanked during DDC transfer Reading next EDID block VBE/DDC service about to be called Read EDID Performing real mode VBE call Interrupt 0x10 ax=0x4f15 bx=0x1 cx=0x0 Function supported Call successful parse-edid: EDID checksum passed. # EDID version 1 revision 3 Section Monitor # Block type: 2:0 3:f # Block type: 2:0 3:fe # Block type: 2:0 3:fe Identifier SEC:5032 VendorName SEC ModelName SEC:5032 # Block type: 2:0 3:f # Block type: 2:0 3:fe # Block type: 2:0 3:fe # DPMS capabilities: Active off:no Suspend:no Standby:no Mode1680x1050 # vfreq 59.999Hz, hfreq 64.799kHz DotClock119.23 HTimings1680 1728 1760 1840 VTimings1050 1052 1058 1080 Flags -HSync -VSync EndMode # Block type: 2:0 3:f # Block type: 2:0 3:fe # Block type: 2:0 3:fe EndSection -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to find the specs of a monitor
Raquel wrote: On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:53:17 -0700 Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 03:37:19PM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: I am trying to setup a dual screen from a laptop with another LCD monitor. However, this new monitor came without any manuals, documentation etc., I know that it is working but I just dont know the specs. How can I find out what its Horizontal frequency and vertical refresh rates etc. are, so that I input them into the monitor section of xorg.conf file? If it matters, the laptop as such runs Etch (stable). Any ideas? Well, this may sound stupid and low-tech, but what I did last time was to Google the monitor make and model. I got the online manual for the monitor from that. It is not stupid at all. The problem is that I do not know the model of this monitor. All it says on the LCD panel is that it is a Dell monitor. There is no other information like model number etc., raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to find the specs of a monitor
Mike McCarty wrote: Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: I am trying to setup a dual screen from a laptop with another LCD monitor. However, this new monitor came without any manuals, documentation etc., I know that it is working but I just dont know the specs. How can I find out what its Horizontal frequency and vertical refresh rates etc. are, so that I input them into the monitor section of xorg.conf file? If it matters, the laptop as such runs Etch (stable). Any ideas? You got some useful info, but seemingly can't read the specs. I suggest you connect it as your *only* monitor, and use the EDID info from it. I am trying to connect the external monitor to a laptop. I dont think there is an option to switch off laptop's monitor and switch on only the external monitor. At this place, I do not have access to another desktop. I think that the read-edid is informative, but wanted a more complete dump. Today is the first I heard of it. But, in any case, I am working on a program to dump everything in it. If you need a prelim. version, I can shoot you source, or an executable. Contact me off-list. You mean you are working on a standalone program which gives complete info of the monitor specs? or you are working on a program which extracts information from read-edid and then gives the specs of the monitor? Sorry, you got me lost with the above paragraph. In any case, I would appreciate if you can email the source and the executable. raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to save Internet radio played by realplayer
Serena Cantor wrote: I use sarge I listen to Internet radio by realplayer, how to save the broadcast(audio) to a file? You can probably use mplayer -v -dumpstream rtsp://linktoaudofile.rm -dumpfile audio.rm Replace the rtsp://linktoaudofile.rm with the corresponding link you want to download. raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] A significant negative impact on Linux's popularity?
Zach wrote: There are millions and millions of MS Windows uers who can't do much beyond checking email, surfing the web and playing games and then millions more who are what I call 'corporate users; they only do certain tasks using involving Office. The typical Linux user tended to be more savvy and educated about the OS though with Ubuntu and similar efforts this is probably degrading. One can argue if this is good or not for Linux. I disagree. Being able to use a system without knowing all the intricacies, nuances is IMHO the sign of maturity of the technology. If someone knows all the inner details, good for them. But that should not be a requirement. Using the automobile analogy, in the old days, the drivers of automobile should know a lot about cars so that they can fix it in case something breaks on their trip to the mall. Now a days, the drivers are not required to know everything under the hood. If the driver knows about it, it's good for them. But it is not a requirement. hth raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Aptitude can't upgrade Apt!
Frank McCormick wrote: Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that the package is simply not installable and a bug report against that package should be filed. The following information may help to resolve the situation: If the problem persists for couple of days, I would do what it says : File a bug report. Please do check the BTS before filing the bug report! raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: reorder files with a mouse in a file browser and rename them
H.S. wrote: file2.txt file3.txt file1.txt Assume that you were somehow able to generate this list. In real life problem, this would be couple hundred lines long (not just 3 lines). Call this listA. to 001_file2.txt 002_file3.txt 003_file1.txt Call this listB. Let's see how listA can be changed to listB inside vim. $cat temp.txt file2.txt file3.txt file1.txt file5.txt file9.txt file10.txt file8.txt $cp temp.txt temp1.txt open temp1.txt in normal mode, put your cursor in line 1, column 1. Now enter the following letters. i001_ESC| qavf_yjPhctrl-a|q [EMAIL PROTECTED] :w after this you should have temp1.txt as $cat temp1.txt 001_file2.txt 002_file3.txt 003_file1.txt 004_file5.txt 005_file9.txt 006_file10.txt 007_file8.txt $paste temp.txt temp1.txt temp2.txt $cat temp2.txt file2.txt 001_file2.txt file3.txt 002_file3.txt file1.txt 003_file1.txt file5.txt 004_file5.txt file9.txt 005_file9.txt file10.txt 006_file10.txt file8.txt 007_file8.txt now open temp2.txt in normal mode in vim, put the cursor at line 1, column 1. enter the following commands ctrl-vG I mv ESC :w $cat temp2.txt mv file2.txt001_file2.txt mv file3.txt002_file3.txt mv file1.txt003_file1.txt mv file5.txt004_file5.txt mv file9.txt005_file9.txt mv file10.txt 006_file10.txt mv file8.txt007_file8.txt Voila! your script is ready. You can add #! /bin/sh at the top of temp2.txt and make it executable. It can be run by ./temp2.txt inside bash. Explanation of some of the vim commands. i001_ESC| insets 001_ and moves the cursor to the begining of the line. qavf_yjPhctrl-a|q record some commands in register a. [EMAIL PROTECTED] execute the commands in register a, 5 times. If the number of files in listA is 100, you will do [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED] :w write the file. hth raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: reorder files with a mouse in a file browser and rename them
H.S. wrote: Hello, This may be a little odd question. Can any of the file browsers (konqueror, nautilus) let a user reorder the files in a folder by dragging them to a certain position and then to rename the ordered files automatically with a file pattern? This problem arose because I have a few hundred of images which are jumbled up in time order. I have seen a friend do something similar in XP's Windows Explorer. I am hoping it can be done in Linux too in some way: order the image files by dragging them to their position in the file browser and to run a script on the newly ordered files to rename them numerically in that order. thanks, -HS Dont use GUI for this sort of thing. Write a shell script which contains all the necessary commands for performing the task. To get list of files, use vim. You probably need to use commands such as :!ls -rt *jpg inside vim. Once the list is generated in your desired order, then generate the list of new file names. changing file2.txt file3.txt file1.txt to 001_file2.txt 002_file3.txt 003_file1.txt is pretty trivial in vim if you know about registers etc., I know I am not giving you complete answers, but those pointers should help you to get started. hth raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Find out host of IP
David Baron wrote: Someone is trying to ssh on to my system. Trying on several ports. Not the first time, either. Thankfully, he does not have a password. Besides a bunch of Deprecated option ReverseMappingCheck, so far no harm done. Since my logs have this IP number, how do I find out who it is? Not exactly answering your question. But I do see a lot of IPs performing dictionary attacks on my machine. What I do is go through /var/log/auth.log periodically and add the offending IPs to /etc/hosts.deny . That way, in future, the offending IPs cannot perform any dictionary attacks. I currently have around 85 IPs in this list (starting Apr 10, 2007) :-) You should also disable remote root logins to make the machine more secure. hth raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Find out host of IP
Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 08:20:05PM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: David Baron wrote: Someone is trying to ssh on to my system. Trying on several ports. Not the first time, either. Thankfully, he does not have a password. Besides a bunch of Deprecated option ReverseMappingCheck, so far no harm done. Since my logs have this IP number, how do I find out who it is? Not exactly answering your question. But I do see a lot of IPs performing dictionary attacks on my machine. What I do is go through /var/log/auth.log periodically and add the offending IPs to /etc/hosts.deny . That way, in future, the offending IPs cannot perform any dictionary attacks. I currently have around 85 IPs in this list (starting Apr 10, 2007) :-) You should also disable remote root logins to make the machine more secure. The best thing you can do is to disable password logins altogether. Using public keys is much more secure and makes it *impossible* for a dictionary attack to succeed. Somehow, I am not comfortable with this. I have read in many places that key authentication is the most secure method and I agree with them. However it is not very convenient. Consider this situation. Say, I ssh into machineA from machineB. However machineB is not always known apriori. I can go to my friend's machine and want to ssh into machineA. In that case, how do I obtain get the key? Carrying the key with a USB stick is one option. But again that is also inconvenient for me. I guess convenience and security are opposite ends of the spectrum. raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fluent like
abdelkader belahcene wrote: Hi, I am looking open source software which does something like FLUENT(Flow Modeling software). Not all capabilities are required. I want to use for educational purpose. FLUENT is too expensive for our limited ressources. thanks a lot best regards bela Based on the discussion at http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/flumech/message/173, you could try opencfd : http://www.opencfd.co.uk/openfoam/ gerris : http://gfs.sourceforge.net/ gerris is available in testing, unstable. But it is not available in stable (etch). hth raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GPG:Error non-us.debian.org
Nigel Henry wrote: On Thursday 07 June 2007 21:55, mxc wrote: Hi all, I keep getting an GPG error for non-us-debian.org despite running gpg --keyserver keyring.debian.org --recv 4F368D5D W: GPG error: http://non-us.debian.org stable/non-US Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified What am I doing wrong? thanks I thought that the non-us repo was no longer available, which would explain why the sigs can't be verified. Nigel. According to http://www.debian.org/mirror/list-non-US non-US archives are not needed unless you are using a version of Debian from before Debian 3.1. hth raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Locales not supported on X server
I am using Debian Etch, nxclient 2.1.0-17. Whenever I start nxclient from konsole, I am getting the following warning. Qt: Locales not supported on X server nxclient starts fine after this. What should I do to get rid of this warning? thanks raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Robert Alan Soloway Arrested
Mike McCarty wrote: Did I mentions that one of the charges is aggravated identity theft? Anyway, they said on the evening news that someone estimated that he's been responsible for 10 billion (that's 10^10) SPAM e-mails. I also heard that 40% of all e-mail traffic is SPAMmed, and that he's the major culprit. Spammers are like mafia. Even if you arrest one, there will always be someone else to fill the void. But it is good to know that at least they arrested one of the spammers. raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XP and Debian: dual boot?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys! I am planning to install the Debian with my XP as a dual boot. Any suggestions where to go to find some nice guidelines for this process...? If you already have windows on that machine and want to install Debian beside that you can also try http://goodbye-microsoft.com/ raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Security question: are these vulnerabilities addressed?
Scott Gifford wrote: CVE-2006-0225OpenSSH Local SCP Shell Command Execution From /usr/share/doc/openssh-server/changelog.Debian.gz on Debian Etch machine running openessh-server 4.3p2-9, this was fixed in 1:4.3p2-1 No idea about other stuff. BTW, is upgrade to Etch from Sarge not an option in your case? Sarge is old and Etch is the new stable version. raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: List of packages and version
Augustin wrote: Hello, I would like to be a new debian user. Cool! Welcome to Debian. I have been browsing the debian.org site, but I couldn't find anywhere where I could find a list of packages + their versions for each Debian release (stable, test, unstable). If I want to find out what version of a certain software ships with what version of debian, and whether some other software are packaged or not, where do I go? packages.debian.org is one resource. However, you can also use $apt-cache search texmacs texmacs - WYSIWYG mathematical text editor using TeX fonts texmacs-common - WYSIWYG mathematical text editor using TeX fonts texmacs-extra-fonts - extra fonts for the mathematical text editor TeXmacs $rmadison texmacs texmacs | 1:1.0.4-R3-5 | oldstable | source, alpha, arm, hppa, i386, ia64, m68k, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc texmacs | 1:1.0.6-10 | etch-m68k | source, m68k texmacs | 1:1.0.6-10 |stable | source, alpha, amd64, arm, hppa, i386, ia64, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc texmacs | 1:1.0.6-11 | testing | source, alpha, amd64, arm, hppa, i386, ia64, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc texmacs | 1:1.0.6-11 | unstable | arm, hurd-i386, ia64, m68k texmacs | 1:1.0.6.9-3 | unstable | sparc texmacs | 1:1.0.6.9-4 | unstable | hppa texmacs | 1:1.0.6.10-1 | unstable | source, alpha, amd64, i386, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390 More info can be found at their respective man pages. hth raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: konqueror crash
pol wrote: Hi all, After a couple years working perfectly, kde session restoring begun to fail a few weeks ago, on my debian/testing laptop. At the user session opening, every konqueror instance, saved in the previous session, crashes. Here included the backtrace, from the crash window panel. lHowever, any new konqueror instaces start flawlessly. Any idea? Is your system up to date? Just update the system and see if the problem goes away! raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: trouble building glibc-2.5 and gcc-4.1.2
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Hi, I'm trying to upgrade my system from glibc-2.3 to 2.5 and gcc-4.1.1 to 4.1.2. I did wajig build glibc but this results in a request for gcc-4.1.2. However, doing wajig build gcc-4.1 complains about absence of glibc-2.5. How should I proceed? Not sure if this solves your problem. But I usually do sudo apt-get build-dep packagename to ensure that all the build dependencies are satisfied. raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user
Joey Hess wrote: Frans, Cord, Martin, Pascal, I'm writing the listmasters because reading debian-user has become nearly unbearable for me (one of the sadly few DDs who bothers to read our user lists) due to volume and offensiveness/repetativeness of offtopic posts there. I would like to help in whatever way I can to stop these OT posts. I have previously complained about it. But the OT posters never seem to listen. There were only a bunch in the beginning, of late the number of OT posters is also increasing. Now that the complaint is coming from a DD, I hope that some action/policy will be laid out... Greg Folkert (http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/05/msg01282.html) even made a mockery of people complaining about OT posts. That is just sad. What makes this whole issue difficult is that these people hijack threads and make them OT. While I may be interested in the original thread, it becomes unreadable in the due course. Moreover, the OT posters are pretty knowledgeable about Debian (atleast they know a lot more than myself). So I cannot even killfile them since then I would not benefit from their non-OT posts. I've in the past threatened to leave -user entirely, and I have in fact moved a lot of my attention to providing support on forums.debian.net[4], but I would prefer that Debian articulate a policy of not tolerating this kind of behavior. It's so sad that these OT posters are driving away people like you. I have always enjoyed (learned a lot from) your posts on this mailing list. thanks raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (OT) Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user
Gnu_Raiz wrote: Let me get this straight developers are complaining about OT topics, how it takes up their developer time. But they manage to compile a list of offenses made by people who read the list? Then they threaten to leave due to issues of people not being on topic? Naa! He is just backing up his claims with proof/evidence whatever you may call it. I think that is a pretty neat way of doing it (especially when you are addressing to listsmasters etc., and asking for a change in policy). raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE login manager?
Martin Marques wrote: Eric A. Bonney escribió: Does KDE have a login manager similar to Gnome? When my laptop boots up it first enters a login manager if you will that is Gnome. Then when I login it brings up the KDE desktop. Does KDE have anything similar? $ apt-cache search kdm | grep kdm kde-kdm-themes - Themes for the K Display Manager kdm - X display manager for KDE kdmtheme - theme manager for KDM Looking at it from OPs side, if he has never heard of kdm before $apt-cache search kdm would be unthinkable. Instead he can use something like $apt-cache search kde login manager kdm - X display manager for KDE ksmserver - session manager for KDE The above words are same as the title of this thread. Then you can learn more by doing $apt-cache show kdm hth raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Rebuilding debian packages
gustavo halperin wrote: So I believe that I need to build my own Debian package, so please can you give me some tips in order to how modify the wxwidgets2.6 source packages from http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/w/wxwidgets2.6/wxwidgets2.6_2.6.3.2.1.5.tar.gz for my requirements and rebuild a Debian package? I dont know much about wxwidgets. But I frequently rebuild gnuplot packages with libreadline. The instructions I use can be found at http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/2007/04/build-gnuplot-with-gnu-readline-and.html For more in depth picture, I suggest to you to follow Roberto's page. Mine is more like a quick hack (not pretty, but works). hth raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: reporting problems with unstable
Arnfinn Ringvold wrote: Perhaps the unstable team is continously aware of such problems and would only be unnececarily bothered by regular users sending in reports? Anybody can report bugs. I have always found that developers/maintainers are excited to receive bug reports and fix them. Bugs with patches are the best, IMHO. Before reporting any bugs, please search the BTS (http://bugs.debian.org) and see if it is already reported. I suggest using reportbug as it automatically collects info such as your distribution, versions of dependencies installed etc., Regarding upgrading issues, usually it is something like one of the dependenices has not yet made into the queue. So wait for a couple of days and if you still have upgrading issues, then please report it. hth raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dpkg-buildpackage; building from subversion
John Pye wrote: So: assuming I have complete control over what is in my tarball, what is the neatest, tidiest and safest way to set up and run an actual .deb build? First you need to debianize the tar ball using dh_make. If it is already debianized, you can build the packages using dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -rfakeroot I am not sure where subversion comes into picture in your problem. May be I am not understanding the question properly. Roberto has written a very good document on customizing debian packages with detailed instructions. But unfortunately I could not locate it in google. You can take a look at my own crude version of building customized gnuplot packages. http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/2007/04/build-gnuplot-with-gnu-readline-and.html hth raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: configure a graphics card
summer2005 wrote: With the new graphics card plugged in, I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and went though all the steps. However, the configuration was not changed (config files under the directory X11 remained unchanged). I cound not launch the KDE desktop manager. XFree86? Which distrbution are you using? XFree86 is old, Xorg is the latest. Use xorg instead of XFree86... hth raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help needed with server setup at work
Greg Folkert wrote: Lookup sshfs (or shfs as it is commonly know) it is completely at the whim of the user. They use an existing well known, well vetted daemon (openssh-server) and in a local environment (meaning no slow links) with 100Mbit/sec, I get nearly line speed transfer rates (100Mbit/sec == 11MByte/sec). I have been using sshfs for the past couple of days. It is a great idea. But I kind of feel (aka no data to support the claim) that sshfs is slow compared to nfs (especially with large files). So if speed is an issue, the OP might want to consider other alternatives as well. hth raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Blog about using Debian for a really small business...
Redefined Horizons wrote: http://debforsmallbiz.blogspot.com/ Great idea! I have always wondered about using Debian in actual business environments. Thanks for posting it here. I've started a blog about using Debian Linux to manage the daily operations of a really small business. I hope to run the business with only open source software, with Debian as my operating system. I am not sure I agree here. Running business with only open source software? It might be possible, but at some point or another you have to use some non-free stuff. For example your customers insist upon some proprietary software. Would you go about advocating free software to this guy and risk loosing him or yield to his requests and use proprietary software? I would say just keep an open mind. I hope the Debian community will view this as a good thing. I for one am very interested in seeing how this goes. raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian User List
Michael Pobega wrote: I'll admit that sometimes I don't Google stuff, but usually it's when I can't think of WHAT to Google. This happens to me sometimes. My usual approach is to think of a subject line for the question that I might be asking on the mailing list and search that title in google. It works most of the times. If it does not work, then I ask it on the list after reading other relevant documentation. hth raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: versions of packages available in other branches
P Kapat wrote: apt-get install devscripts rmadison $PKG Exactly what I need. Thanks. Well, same here... Was looking for this for a long time... But I am on Sid, and there is a clash with the licensecheck script. It is based on a script provided by kdesdk-scripts... So, is it safe to use --force while installing devscripts from Sid? dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/devscripts_2.10.3_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/licensecheck', which is also in package kdesdk-scripts dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) I just searched the BTS and found http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=419754 Looks like this bug is fixed in 2.10.4 Moreover, some information on what are the possible arguments for the various parameters of rmadison (like, what are COMPONENT?) might be useful.. I agree. I had a cursory look into /usr/bin/rmadison but could not figure it out. raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: versions of packages available in other branches
Kevin Mark wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Apr 22, 2007 at 12:42:45AM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: Say I am running Etch and my /etc/apt/sources.list contains only entries related to Stable. Using command line interface, What is the efficient way to obtain information about versions of a package currently available in testing, unstable, experimental? apt-get install devscripts rmadison $PKG Exactly what I need. Thanks. raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jmicron363 r4 ETCH
Onzone wrote: Hi All, Can some please help me with this issue, debian or should i say the kernel, has a bug in it. What is r4 ETCH? or do you mean by Sarge r4? What is the kernel version you are using? What is your CPU? Sorry, I am one of those folks who wont answer questions without complete information on hand ... raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian update
gustavo halperin wrote: Hello After update my debian system to the new release I experimented some troubles. Actually the applications xpdf or Eterm or ida hung the X server. I don't know how to resolve it, all the dependencies of these application looks OK, so Any idea what is the problem or how find the problem? Solve it step by step. When you start the X server are there any errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log? That would be the first place to look for X related problems. Next, if everything in /var/log/Xorg.0.log looks fine, then start xpdf (say from konsole) and see if there are any errors reported on the konsole screen and in ~/.xsession-errors hth raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian update
gustavo halperin wrote: The only error from Xorg.0.log is (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable But I don't think that it is the problem. This does not seem to be the cause of the problem. If you want to correct this however, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg might be useful. I didn't find any error from xpdf in the ~/.xsession-errors but I found something from Eterm: Eterm: Warning: Locale not supported; defaulting to portable C locale. This is also not the cause of the problem. All it says is that eterm does not support your locale. But it should not cause hangups. 1) When the hangup happens, Are you able to ctrl-alt-f1 and go into console of the machine? If so, log in there and do top/htop etc., to figure out which process is taking up most of the CPU, memory etc., You can also try to ssh into the macine. 2) Also make sure, all the packages in your system are up to date. Sometimes intermixing different KDE versions etc., are known to cause some problems. 3) Are there any messages in /var/log/messages etc., indicating some hard drive I/O problems? This is a long shot but worth checking up. 4) Do you have sufficient memory or are you constantly using swap space? Using swap space is slow as opposed to using RAM and might explain the hang ups. sorry I haven't been much useful so far raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
versions of packages available in other branches
Say I am running Etch and my /etc/apt/sources.list contains only entries related to Stable. Using command line interface, What is the efficient way to obtain information about versions of a package currently available in testing, unstable, experimental? Currently, I go to http://packages.debian.org/packagename to get the necessary information. But I am looking for a command line alternative. apt-show-versions -a does not seem to work in this case since all my entries in sources.list only point only to stable. I do not want to add testing/unstable entries in sources.list as I would like to track only Etch and nothing else on this machine. reportbug seem to be doing this some how. For example if I try to report a bug in stable's package, it tells me the version numbers available in testing/unstable. I am looking for something like this. Any ideas? thanks raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sudo instead of SU
Masatran, R. Deepak wrote: How can I replace SU with Sudo (like Ubuntu), in Gnome and other applications? I will mention this since sooner or later (I think) you will hit this. su - gives you a root shell so you can execute multiple commands (one after another) as being root. sudo is usually used to run a single command as root (ex :- sudo apt-get update). If instead, you want to use sudo to gain access to a root shell, you can use sudo -s sudo /bin/bash my random 2 cents raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: interesting ubuntu bug report
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: https://bugs.launchpad.net/%7Eneato-2001 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1 Nice sense of geek humor! Thanks for posting the links! hth raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
getting rid of threads in knode
Is it possible to get rid of thread sorting completely in knode? I want to sort all the mails according to the date they arrived without bothering about the thread that email belongs to. Is this possible at all? I used to be able to do this in thunderbird all the time. But could not figure out a way to do it in knode. I tried clicking on the Date tab but that still sorts the emails according to date + threads. But I want to sort it only according to date. Any ideas? Using Debian Etch (stable), 0.10.4 tia raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Burn files 4 GB to DVD
John Jason Jordan wrote: The problem is not the media or the drive. My DVD burner is double layer and I have some double layer DVDs that can hold 8 GB. I can burn a DVD that holds 8 GB, but it still can't include any individual files that are over 4 GB in size. I tried GnomeBaker, K3b and Nautilus. Each one said that the write failed because the file was over 4 GB. The file in question is 4.4 GB and it wouldn't work even if I used a double layer DVD. Thanks for the response, but I'm stll stuck. I dont know if this will work for you. Back in floppy days, when I had to copy a 10 MB file onto a bunch of floppy disks (1.4 Mb each), I used the split command. It can split a large file into multiple smaller files. You can then burn these individual files onto (separate) DVDs. In future, if you want to get the original file back, use the cat command. Another solution is to compress the 4.4 GB. You basically need somekind of zip, gzip, bzip etc., which will atleast give you 10% compression. hth raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: octave and octave-forge
Nyizsnyik Ferenc wrote: Just a (bit off-topic?) question: I installed octave 2.9 from Etch. Now it doesn't seem to be included anymore. What to do now? What do you mean? I am using octave 2.9.9 on Debian Etch. Octave 2.9 is included in Debian Etch. raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Restrict server access
Will Parkinson wrote: Hi All, I was wondering if there was any way to restrict server ssh, ftp and even http access to certain countries / ip ranges? I've been using debian for a while at home but am pretty new to the security side of things. Any help much appreciated You can use /etc/hosts.allow, /etc/hosts.deny to allow and block certain range of IPs. Both the files are very easy to configure. I don't know how to allow/block access based on the country of origin. hth raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: octave and octave-forge
Olafur Jens Sigurdsson wrote: Hi, I am trying to use octave2.9 in unstable (version 2.9.10 atm) but each time I try to call a function from octave-forge I get something like error: dmlread' undefined near line 2 column 1, none of the octave variables like DEFAULT_LOADPATH or LOADPATH are set, at least I get an empty respons by issuing getenv(DEFAULT_LOADPATH) and if I try to set LOADPATH by issuing octave 2.9.10 does not work well with the octave-forge that is currently in Debian. My suggestion would be to install octave 2.9.9 and see if it works. hth raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need ftp client
Greg Folkert wrote: On Mon, 2007-04-16 at 09:31 -0500, Dennis G. Wicks wrote: Does anyone know of an ftp client for Debian or linux similar to the windows pkgs cute-ftp or FileZilla? These are GUI packages that have stored profiles, socks proxy capabilities, and other handy features. I have been working on making FileZilla work with wine but it is turning out to be far from trivial! something like gftp? I second gftp. It has got a clean interface and does the job. You can probably also use konqueror's ftp://, sftp:// etc., along with the split view vertically. This provides a winscp kind of interface and you can drag the files from left to right and vice versa. hth raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need ftp client
cga2000 wrote: If God had meant us to use gooey FTP clients, he'd have made our fingers out of nacho cheese sauce!! Nicely put. Definitely not. GUI has its advantages, cli has its core competencies. Both of them should be seen as complementing each other rather than excluding each other. Must be fun to drag .. and er.. drop three hundred files that all start with cga .. or whatever .. rather than use a plain old simple command whose syntax supports wildcards. Sometimes it is not just for fun. If you are tranferring just 2 or 3 files, the possibility of doing mistakes with GUI is a lot less than using cli. Besides if you are like me and have 20-30 character long file names, which take atleast 8 tab strokes to complete the filename even while employing wildcards, GUI is definitely the way to go (all that involved is just a left mouse click). I do use command line whenever I think it gets the job done efficiently. However I am not averse to using GUI if it gets the job done efficiently. Efficiency is what matters, not how you get the job done. YMMV. hth raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to scp from one box to another with no root ssh?
Greg Folkert wrote: I do it all the time... as root on the target machine and as myself on the source machine. Most configuration are readable by regular users. Greg, The OP's question is a bit deeper than that. There are some files which are not readable by anyone other than root. For example, /var/log/messages which is readable only by root. The question is how to copy those things as well. (The above file is a bad example, since in this particular case you can add the user to the 'adm' group and read the file. But you get the general idea). raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Noob question - best way to install software
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been using Debian for about a month, and just upgraded to Etch. I'm very happy with it so far - my compliments to the people who create this great piece of work. I am wondering about the best way to install software. I have used the apt-get method, which is pretty simple, and have also downloaded and compiled from source tarballs which is a little more complicated but doesn't seem to be a big deal. Are there significant advantages and disadvantages to these methods, besides just convenience? I worry about dependencies, and maybe messing stuff up with apt-get update. The apt-get method enables you to upgrade the packages without any effort. The source tarballs is method is good only for the current version. It does not (usually) bother about upgrading packages. The same is true for removing packages. As a newbie, you should consider reading the documentation manuals (especially the ones under user's manuals) available at http://www.debian.org/doc/ . Those documents will answer most of the questions you would be getting in the next couple of weeks. raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Noob question - best way to install software
Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: Curious: what does apt-get do that aptitude non-interactive do; how does the user's experience of each differ? I thought that aptitude for simple stuff a drop-in replacement for apt-get. sudo apt-get build-dep texmacs sudo apt-get source texmacs Replace texmacs with your favorite package name. More info on what the commands do can be read from the man page of apt-get. AFAIK, there are no aptitude equivalents for the above commands. hth raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Noob question - best way to install software
Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 06:00:02PM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: Curious: what does apt-get do that aptitude non-interactive do; how does the user's experience of each differ? I thought that aptitude for simple stuff a drop-in replacement for apt-get. sudo apt-get build-dep texmacs sudo apt-get source texmacs Replace texmacs with your favorite package name. More info on what the commands do can be read from the man page of apt-get. AFAIK, there are no aptitude equivalents for the above commands. Are those things a newbie cares about? I've never used them in the 8 years I've been using debian. Probably not! But if you want to compile debian packages from source then I think you need those commands. raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: a Debian user's introduction to Redhat EL4?
Peter Teunissen wrote: There will be a moment when someone realizes that he didn't pay for his wife and start to doubt if her love for him is genuine. :-/ hmmm... Ever heard of dowry system? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dowry raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help! Strange FF/Iceweasel problem
Wayne Topa wrote: Think about what you would lose _if_ you delete .mozilla. Bookmarks and passwords come to mind. Ask me how I know that. I stopped relying on browser's bookmarks. That is because they are not available if I shift to another browser, another machine or another os. These days, I am using google's toolbar and using their bookmarks facilities provided by www.google.com/bookmarks just my 2 cents raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
restarting artsd server
How do I properly kill, stop, start, restart artsd server. It does not have a man page (Isn't that a bug?). Why I need this? I have the following errors in ~/.xsession-errors Error: Can't add object reference (probably artsd is already running). If you are sure it is not already running, remove the relevant files: /tmp/ksocket-rajulocal/Arts_SoundServerV2 /tmp/ksocket-rajulocal/Arts_SoundServer /tmp/ksocket-rajulocal/Arts_SimpleSoundServer /tmp/ksocket-rajulocal/Arts_PlayObjectFactory /tmp/ksocket-rajulocal/Arts_AudioManager and wondering how to get rid of them. thanks raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Off Topic - Open source flash support - now getting rid of ads
A. F. Cano wrote: On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 10:49:01PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: ... Oh wait, did Flash do that? I have to say I find the web a much better place without it. Much of the annoying advertising disappears if you remove flash. OK, you miss The proper way to do this is by having privoxy between your browser and the internet. I've been running it for years and couldn't live without it. If you are using iceweasel, there are nice extension called Adblock plus, Adblock plus: Element hiding helper. Once you install these extensions, you can right click on the ads and block them. Very easy to use than privoxy. raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: a Debian user's introduction to Redhat EL4?
Peter Teunissen wrote: Hi All, I've got a great opportunity to promote opensource at my job by working on a BI project for Oxfam. But, I'm forced to use Redhat EL4 and need to get up and running in a short time. Well, that's life. I've been looking for a Debian user's introduction to Redhat EL4, but only found intro's in the other direction :-) In Martin Krafft's The Debian System book I remember reading a table where he gives different commands of apt-get and corresponding commands with Yum, rpm, Gentoo's package manager. That might give you some starting points. I think it is in the chapter where he discusses aptitude, upgrades etc., I read this book something like 1 year back, so I could be totally wrong. Sorry, I currently dont have this book with me, so cant give the page numbers etc., raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: iceweasel/iceape/epiphany/galeon download manager problems (etch)
Andreas Goesele wrote: Any suggestions? Close previous iceweasel processes. Start iceweasel without loading any extensions and see if it helps. raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Complete system freeze from virtual terminals / terminal emulators
Pat Primate wrote: I have an LG LW40-S3MU1 laptop and I'm new to Debian and I would love to give her a good run, but I have run into a persistant problem. With a fresh install (all software is original Etch 4.0r0 versions) if I open up a virtual terminal / terminal emulator (like konsole) and press one of the arrow keys on my keyboard (e.g., the left arrow key) my entire system will freeze solid I have to hold the power button down for 4 or 5 seconds to shut it down. The freeze is easily replicated (every single time I try). When the freeze happens, are you able to ssh into that machine? If so, then you can check /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see if you find any errors. Another workaround is to completely disable the graphical environments (KDM etc.,) and see if you can reproduce the crash in a pure console based environment. If the console based system does not hang, run startx and see what errors you are receiving. BTW, are all your packages up to date? Sometimes when the KDE packages from different versions are mixed together, strange things can happen. hth raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using Debian problem--please help
Christian Hattery wrote: I used the netinst from the US mirror and I installed it on an AMD64 system and everything went fine and after the install when Debian ask's for my account name and pass it leaves that GUI and goes to nothing but a GRAY screen and a mouse cursor. I don't know what to do from here and I'm confused as to what could be wrong please any input would greatly be appreciated. Thanks, Christian Hattery http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/2006/05/getting-gui.html will help you get a GUI environment like KDE. raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
using remote files with local programs
Let's say I have two machines. machine_local machine_remote machine_local is under my control (say my personal desktop). I have root access to it (say root_local) and can pretty much do whatever I want on it. It currently runs Debian. Let's say the user name on machine_local is user_local. machine_remote has huge hard drive space, contains user account user_remote. However the problem is that machine_remote is maintained by some other person (say root_remote) who is reluctant to install new software, provide nfs access etc., Moreover, machine_remote is not running Debian but some other Linux distribution (say Redhat 8). My question is that Without bothering root_remote and just using the ssh account (user_remote) on machine_remote, would it be possible to use/mount those files onto machine_local as if they were local files? The advantage is that, I can run latest and greatest software on machine_local and at the same time take advantage of facilities like huge hard drive space, frequent backups etc., on machine_root. Please note that running NFS server on machine_root is not an option, since it would involve bothering root_remote for granting access to machine_local. Any other ideas/suggestions? thanks raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: using remote files with local programs
Mathias Brodala wrote: Hello Raju. Kamaraju S Kusumanchi, 11.04.2007 21:24: Without bothering root_remote and just using the ssh account (user_remote) on machine_remote, would it be possible to use/mount those files onto machine_local as if they were local files? Of course. Search for sshfs; it works just perfect. This is just amazing! Works awesome! I wish I had known about it earlier. I think it definitely deserver one of those Debian package-of-the-day entries raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The List Standard
First: as I understand your guideline I am not to use the reply key but simply address my reply back to the list and it will be automatically added to the descending list. Most email clients have 3 options : Reply, Reply to All, Reply to List. You should use Reply to List when replying to list. A list of email clients which support Reply to List feature can be found at http://wiki.debian.org/ReplyToListEmailClients But have you not in your own email broken the chain of information because all I get when I read your email is to see your one extraction and I don't know from that who said what or even the initial subject content. I do not know what you mean by extraction, but usually the previous emails, discussions are a click away in your email client. The thread structure lets you see which email is reply to which email etc.,. It is customary to snip away irrelevant parts of the previous message and keep the parts that you are replying to. Not every one has threads. If you want to read this mailing list, any attempt to resist threads is futile. Try to get a mail client with threads. In a thread before yours this statement was made: ' AFAIK Thunderbird can thread even if the subject is changed. (It uses the 'In-Reply-To:' header) This person seems to imply that normally the subject is the key to establishing the descending threads. And if Thunderbird for example utilizes the REPLY TO header then that is at odds with what you seem to be saying in this guideline. So I am confused on this matter. Most email clients can thread without any problem even if the subject is changed. Some email clients cannot preserve threads if the subject is changed. I was being considerate about the second category. Second: Also, when one person removes content they think is irrelevant but the original author might think otherwise then how does one find that original information? Usually all that information (previous emails, previous threads etc.,) is one click away in a good email client. Note that I have 3 objections I want to discuss in more detail if that is okay with you. I am quite happy that you raised the issues. It helps me improve that document in the future. raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: checking if my system is compromised
John Hasler wrote: Kamaraju S Kusumanchi writes: iptables look a bit heavy for me Heavy? It's already in your kernel. You just aren't using it. Heavy in terms of the learning curve involved, not in terms of the memory/CPU used. raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help compiling source package (autoconf) - AM_SANITY_CHECK not found
Micha Feigin wrote: I am trying to compile ImageMagick from source (trying to cross compile it actually with mingw, but I have the same problem with native compilation). Configure runs file, but that when I try to do make I get the error: Before compiling any source packages from Debian repository, it is a good idea to install all the necessary dependencies for building that package. This can be done via sudo apt-get build-dep imagemagick In general the command would be sudo apt-get build-dep packagename More info can be found in the man page of apt-get. Did you do this? BTW, Debian currently does not yet have 6.3.3 . So in all possibility, you might be hitting a bug in the upstream source code. raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Aptitude Segmentation Fault
Masatran, R. Deepak wrote: An computer that I ran Debian Etch on had some faulty hardware. So, I moved the hard disk to a new computer. Now, Debian works, except that Aptitude gives a segmentation fault when I try to run it. How can I fix this? Upgrade aptitude to the latest version on Etch. If the problem persists and is reproducible, please file a bug against aptitude. In your bug report, please copy paste the errors. Just saying segmentation fault is not enough information. BTW, you can use reportbug package to file bugs. hth raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Does Debian 4.0 support WindowsXP partition
Björn Johansson wrote: Hello! Soon I'm going to install Debian 4.0 on my brothers computer and I want to know if Debian supports WindowsXP partitions so I don't get problems with the LILO bootloader. Do any know if it works? Unless you have a good reason, you should go with Grub instead of Lilo. Grub is newer and much better compared to Lilo. Although for your case, both should do the job without any problems. hth raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The List Standard
I am beginning to wonder what the list standard is on this matter -- or should be. Does this help? http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/du-guidelines.html raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: checking if my system is compromised
John L Fjellstad wrote: I usually enable the recent module in iptables, which means that you can only login once every 1 minute or so. It usually give the attacker only one try before they get shut down. Example: # allow established and related connection /sbin/iptables -A INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT # if a NEW or INVALID package comes in, and it is in our list within the # last 60 seconds, drop the package /sbin/iptables -A INPUT -m state --state NEW,INVALID -m recent --update --seconds 60 -j DROP # allow new connections to ssh port, add the ip address to our recent # list /sbin/iptables -A INPUT -p ssh --dport ssh -m state --state NEW,INVALID -m recent --set -j ACCEPT [msg snipped] Also, in /etc/hosts.deny, set ALL: PARANOID Thanks for tip on iptables. iptables look a bit heavy for me (lot of reading to do). So currently I am using /etc/hosts.allow, /etc/hosts.deny for controlling the IPs which can ssh into this machine. If I find them inadequate, I will use iptables. raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: etch upgrade problem
Seth Goodman wrote:
I think your problem is in this section, see below.
(EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/psaux
No such device.
(EE) Configured Mouse: cannot open input device
(EE) PreInit failed for input device Configured Mouse (II)
UnloadModule: mouse (WW) No core pointer registered
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device Generic Keyboard (type:
KEYBOARD) xkb_keycodes { include
xfree86+aliases(qwerty) }; xkb_types{ include
complete }; xkb_compatibility{ include complete };
xkb_symbols { include pc(pc105)+us };
xkb_geometry { include pc(pc104) };
No core pointer
Fatal server error:
failed to initialize core devices
^^^
X cannot find your mouse. Try another device instead of /dev/psaux. I
have /dev/input/mice
Same result.
Well, What kind of mouse do you have? Is it PS/2, USB mouse, wireless mouse
etc.,?
For starters, you can also use AllowMouseOpenFail option in your xorg.conf
and tell the machine to start X despite a failure due to mouse. More
details can be found in 'man xorg.conf'. After that you can configure the
mouse separately knowing that everything else is working.
hth
raju
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Re: mixing syanptic and aptitude
Celejar wrote: It's more powerful and can do anything that apt-get can What are the aptitude equivalents of sudo apt-get build-dep texmacs apt-get source grep , and in my experience, Synaptic's GUI doesn't add much value, and you can use aptitude in interactive mode. I like synaptic's GUI much better than aptitude's ncurses interface. If I want to see all the packages whose names start with vim, In synaptic all I do is type vim. I could not find a simple way of doing this in aptitude. For me, the default menu structure is too cumbersome to traverse. I am not trying to berate aptitude here, just highlighting some of my inconveniences. raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie Question - KDE-Gnome-xfce
Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Wed, 2007-04-04 at 19:09 -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: . gconf spews all sorts of errors into log files. Not true as of 2.18.0.1-2. Too bad that this is not in Etch. But good to know. thanks raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mixing syanptic and aptitude
Andrew Malcolmson wrote: On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 12:42:50PM -0400, Celejar wrote: On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 02:20:12 -0400 Kamaraju S Kusumanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like synaptic's GUI much better than aptitude's ncurses interface. If I want to see all the packages whose names start with vim, In synaptic all I do is type vim. I could not find a simple way of doing this in aptitude. What about '/' (opens the regex search bar) followed by '^vim' enter? You need to open a Flat Package List from the Views menu, then press 'l' to enter a 'Limit' regep. I usually do this from the shell, though: aptitude search '^vim' Both the methods work. Thanks for pointing it out. One less annoyance with aptitude. raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mixing syanptic and aptitude
Chris Lale wrote: There was a long discussion about this, as you recall. The results are summarised on the NewbieDOC wiki [1]. Basically, you run # aptitude install -sf to see whether Aptitude is confused. If so, run a fix. The global fix is # aptitude keep-all [1] http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/Aptitude_-_using_together_with_Synaptic_and_Apt-get Thanks for the explanation and the link. It is helpful. raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dumb question about odg files and wmf files etc....
Michael Fothergill wrote: What is the best way to proceed here? My pal won't have time to install Open Office for windows on his PC. He will just want to be able to read something into his Msoffice software (e.g. Microsoft Draw or whatever is similar to that nowadays in Windows land). What pal is he if he wont listen to you and install openoffice.org :-) Seriously, conversion is always a pain and you probably will be wasting a lot of time doing that rather than finishing with your actual work. If your pal does not have time to install openoffice.org, then just do it for him. At least that way you can be proud that you converted a M$ office user to that of open source software user. raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mixing syanptic and aptitude
Sometime before, I read on this list that it is unwise to mix apt-get and aptitude. By mix, I mean using apt-get one time and aptitude another time. The reason given was that both of them use different databases. Is this true for synaptic and aptitude as well? Can I use synaptic sometimes and aptitude some other times? Any ideas? I am using Etch (testing) if it matters. thanks raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie Question - KDE-Gnome-xfce
Randy Patterson wrote: I have only had Debian up and going for about two weeks. Had Sarge installed but had problems with my USB hardware so just did a clean install of Etch. Works great!! Since I am a new user I don't have a favorite windowing system that I prefer and was wondering if someone to point me to a good link that would describe the strengths and weaknesses or pros and cons of each system. KDE installed as default with Sarge and Etch so I assume they chose that for a reason and it is the only one I have used. I have looked but haven't been able to find a good comparison them. Thanks, Randy I also use KDE and am a big fan of it. But let me correct one thing. KDE is not chosen as default in Debian. The default with net install image is nothing. Users are expected to install what they like. Why KDE? . Comes with almost everything that an ordinary desktop user can think of. . Components of KDE integrate/communicate well within each other. Ex :- clicking on a link in kmail will open it in konqueror etc., . The interface is consistent across all the KDE applications. . Almost everything can be configured to your taste. . Konqueror, konsole are just awesome! Why not KDE? . It is a memory hog, CPU intensive, slow compared to most other DEs. . Lot of annoying warnings both on konsole and in .xsession_errors for which no solution (AFAIK) exists. This is not a problem but is very inconvenient. Use KDE only if you have a decently fast machine. Otherwise it wont be a pleasant experience. GNOME vs KDE . Gnome's file picker is pretty bad compared to KDE's file picker. . gconf spews all sorts of errors into log files. Due to these two inconveniences, I completely stopped using Gnome and shifted to KDE. Xfce . Well designed and useful if you have a slow machine. . can be used as a backup, in case the big guys like KDE/GNOME fail to load for some reason. hth raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie Question - KDE-Gnome-xfce
Randy Patterson wrote: So would you say in general that the debian-testing-xxx-kde-CD-1.iso image is for higher end system installs and the debian-testing-xxx-xfce-CD-1.iso image is for lower end and debian-testing-xxx-netinst.iso image is to allow for all options? I do not think debian-testing-xxx-kde-CD-1.iso is for higher end and debian-testing-xfce-CD-1.iso is for lower end. It's more like the former installs KDE by default and the later installs xfce by default. I searched for an official page (in http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/) confirming this, but could not find any info. May be others will provide a more authoritative answer. Regarding debian-testing-xxx-netinst.iso, there is more info at http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#netinst . Essentially it gives a basic system by downloading as little as 180 MB. Afterwards users can download the software from the internet as and when the need arises. Sounds like I'm staying with KDE! :-) Well, that gives you a starting point. Once you acclimatize yourself with Debian, you can (and should) experiment with other DEs (Desktop Environments) and choose one that you like. hth raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove
Joe Hart wrote: It sounds to me like something modified your prefs.js file. That is the file that controls which mail folders and accounts are available. According to the official documentation, you're not supposed to directly edit that file, but I know it is possible. BUT you cannot let IceDove create a profile. On closer inspection, I found that my panacea.dat inside ~/.mozilla-thunderbird/randomnumber.default is corrupted. Is there any way to reconstruct this file based on the emails that I have? My emails seem to be intact though. hth raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mozilla and Flash
Dave Walker wrote: Running Mozilla/5.0 1.7.8-1sarge10(current stable release). [message snipped] Anybody got a hint or even better, a solution (one that does not involve -- wait for Etch, etc...I know someone wants to say that!) ??? I do not know the solution for Sarge. I am using Etch and can confirm that flash (on youtube, video.google.com) is working without any problems. $dpkg -l \*iceweasel\* \*flash\* | grep ^ii No packages found matching *flash*. ii iceweasel 2.0.0.2+dfsg-3 lightweight web browser based on Mozilla hth raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian User List
Exactly my point. There are a few similar, but not quite so direct as that. It seems that even the rudest people here have some tact. That is one reason I like this list so much. People here are quite knowledgeable, and it seems quite patient. The most knowledgeable and least rude group that I have seen so far is comp.lang.fortran . People there are just amazing. raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian User List
Michael Pobega wrote: It would surely cut down on the number of RTFM and STFW responses, which I have to say don't appear as often as I expected they would. Actually, I have yet to see anyone on the list tell anyone to RTFM and STFW. I see that more or less on IRC (Because it's so fast moving nobody has time to answer the really dumb questions), but on the mailing list people seem to be a lot more mature and helpful (In comparison to forums.debian.net and IRC). I do not generally feel like saying RTFM etc., simply because it does not help much (both for the OP and for people reading archives). I simply do not respond to such posts and let someone else who has more patience take care of those threads. If the list is getting RTFM questions, it also means that the manuals are just not good enough to be understood. So probably trying to improve the manuals is time well spent compared to writing emails with RTFMs... just my 2 cents raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian User List
s. keeling wrote: I always tell newbies, xman -notopbox -bothshown , giving them a pointy-clickey interface to man. I would like it if all manpages included an example usage section. That's missing in many. And though I tend to like it, the Openlook interface of xman is a little dated, and perhaps xman should fork (perhaps it has?) and produce alternatives that don't expect Openlook's oddball mouse actions to drive it. There are tons of ways to read man pages. I tried to summarize whatever I know at http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/2007/03/various-ways-of-reading-man-pages.html I have added your xman trick there. Thanks for pointing it out. hth raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?
Wei Chen wrote: I am a desktop user that is currently using Etch. You know that Etch is about to release. This means that new features and software will not get into it any more. So what is a better choice now, to stick to Etch or to switch to the next testing? I am not sure which is more important for desktop users, stability or new features. I think there might be some people with similar problem/experience with me. What is your plan/suggestion? Thank you. http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/debian_choosing_distribution.html aims to answer these kind of questions. raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove
Couple of months back, the hard drive on one of my machines has gone bad. That machine used to run thunderbird (dont remember which version) and all my email was stored in /home/username/.mozilla-thunderbird . I copied the old /home partition (from backups) onto a new machine's /home/username. However when I run icedove now, it is not recognizing the fact that my email is stored in ~/.mozilla-thunderbird. The ~/.thunderbird directory is empty. The new machine runs Debian Etch (testing), icedove 1.5.0.10. I cannot recall the old machine's thunderbird version, but it was also running Etch. 1) What is the default location where icedove stores all its files? I looked at the man page of icedove, README.Debian.gz but none of them mention this. 2) Is there any way to tell icedove to migrate all the old emails to its newer (if any) default location? Any other suggestions/ideas on this issue are also welcome. thanks raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove
Joe Hart wrote: This is fixable. First, find the path that icedove is using for it's mail. On my system it is .mozilla-thunderbird, but it might not be on yours. On my system also, all the email is stored in ~/.mozilla-thunderbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ 93 4972 12:06 PM $ls -al .mozilla-thunderbird/ total 36 drwxr-xr-x 3 rajulocal rajulocal 4096 2007-04-02 12:06 ./ drwxr-xr-x 183 rajulocal rajulocal 20480 2007-04-02 12:06 ../ -rw-r--r-- 1 rajulocal rajulocal 1046 2004-10-06 17:51 appreg drwx-- 7 rajulocal rajulocal 4096 2007-04-02 11:08 bafaowsk.default/ -rw-r--r-- 1 rajulocal rajulocal 104 2006-03-15 13:08 profiles.ini When you find the right directory, you'll see that there's a file inside called profiles.ini You can edit that file and point Icedove to use any directory. Take a look at my profiles.ini for an example. #Begin file [General] StartWithLastProfile=1 [Profile0] Name=default IsRelative=0 Path=/media/share/Mail #end file See that my mail is stored in /media/share/Mail. Change that to wherever you have the Mail folder and Icedove should see it. My profiles.ini file is $cat .mozilla-thunderbird/profiles.ini [General] StartWithLastProfile=1 [Profile0] Name=default IsRelative=1 Path=bafaowsk.default Default=1 Looks correct to me except the Default=1 line. What does it do? raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove
Kushal Kumaran wrote: You haven't mentioned what error message, if any, you are getting. I was not receiving any error messages. Previously when I start thunderbird, it directly goes to my accounts page and displays all the folders, news groups etc., Now, when I run icedove, it is starting the account wizard and asking me to set up a new account. I do not want to set up any new accounts as I already have old accounts set up. When I start icedove with -ProfileManager option, it shows that I have a profile named default. However, if I select that and choose Start Icedove, it brings up the account wizard again and asks me to set up a new account. raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove
Kushal Kumaran wrote: You haven't mentioned what error message, if any, you are getting. http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/profile has info on backing up and restoring thunderbird profiles. Maybe something there might help. The page says that, In Linux the path is ~/.thunderbird. However my files are located in ~/.mozilla-thunderbird and not ~/.thunderbird. Except for this difference, everything is as the page suggests. raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove
Joe Hart wrote: After this long and irrelevant story, do you have your mail back or do we need to troubleshoot it further? Joe Interesting experience. Thanks for sharing it. However, I still have the same problem : When I start icedove, it brings up the account wizard instead of seeing the already existing accounts. raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove
KS wrote: Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: Kushal Kumaran wrote: You haven't mentioned what error message, if any, you are getting. http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/profile has info on backing up and restoring thunderbird profiles. Maybe something there might help. The page says that, In Linux the path is ~/.thunderbird. However my files are located in ~/.mozilla-thunderbird and not ~/.thunderbird. Except for this difference, everything is as the page suggests. The reason for that one difference is that your profile location wasn't changed when thunderbird's settings changed from ~/.mozilla-thunderbird to ~/.thunderbird as the default location. Debian maintainers might have decided let the user use the old location than force them to change to the new one or create new accounts. /KS If I want to follow the current thunderbird style, Is it as simple as moving ~/.mozilla-thunderbird to ~/.thunderbird? Or do we need to do anything more? raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove
Joe Hart wrote: I know why. The default mail directory and your mail directory are not the same. The easy fix is to put your mail somewhere else (like /home/raju/mail then adjust the profile.ini file to not use a relative path and to use specifically that directory. This is not the problem. For example, if I create a new account it is stored in ~/.mozilla-thunderbird/bafaowsk.default/Mail/Local Folders-1 . So it is able to recognize that I am using .mozilla-thunderbird. However it is not recognizing my other folders. For example, I currently have $ls -al ~/.mozilla-thunderbird/bafaowsk.default/Mail/ total 28 drwxr-xr-x 7 rajulocal rajulocal 4096 2007-04-02 17:06 ./ drwx-- 7 rajulocal rajulocal 4096 2007-04-02 17:05 ../ drwxr-xr-x 7 rajulocal rajulocal 4096 2007-04-02 17:04 kusumanchi.mae.cornell.edu/ drwxr-xr-x 45 rajulocal rajulocal 4096 2006-09-12 22:45 Local Folders/ drwxr-xr-x 4 rajulocal rajulocal 4096 2005-06-08 16:28 News Blogs/ drwxr-xr-x 3 rajulocal rajulocal 4096 2006-09-12 22:45 News Blogs-1/ drwxr-xr-x 8 rajulocal rajulocal 4096 2006-09-12 22:45 pop.gmail.com/ all these are different different accounts. However, None of these showing up. The problem comes because thunderbird generates a random name for the directory where the mail sits. The directory structure should look something like this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/media/share/Mail$ ls -p abook.mab install.log prefs.js cert8.db key3.db reminderfox/ compatibility.ini Local Folders/ secmod.db compreg.datlocalstore.rdf signature.txt cookies.txtMail/ signature.txt~ downloads.rdf mailViews.dat signons.txt extensions/mimeTypes.rdf training.dat extensions.cache News/ virtualFolders.dat extensions.ini panacea.dat xpti.dat extensions.rdf persdict.datXUL.mfasl history.mabpgprules.xmlxul.mfl I have similar structure. $ls -p .mozilla-thunderbird/bafaowsk.default/ 95817772.s defaults.ini install.log persdict.dat abook.mab downloads.rdf key3.db prefs.js cert8.db extensions/ localstore.rdf secmod.db chrome/extensions.cache Mail/ training.dat compatibility.ini extensions.inimailViews.dat user.js components.ini extensions.rdfmimeTypes.rdf virtualFolders.dat compreg.dathistory.mab News/ xpti.dat cookies.txtImapMail/ panacea.dat XUL.mfasl raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Strange X phenomen since upgrade to X-org
John W. Foster wrote: I recently upgraded a production system from sarge to etch and for the most part there were no real surprises. [ Congrats to the developers] I did run into a thorny problem that I am unable to figure out. When I switch from the xserver to the console screen (ctrl-alt-F1) all is OK, however when I try to switch back to the Xsever screen (ctrl-alt-F7) it is always (100% of the time) unreadable. The screen seems to be made up of 4 to 6 overlaping images that are vertically more narrow than normal. This is my first use of xorg and other than that it works OK. I can correct this by restarting the xserver. Due to my lack of experience with xorg I need a little help. Thanks!!! Are there any errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log? The errors are usually prefixed by (EE). raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux
Andrei Popescu wrote: Kamaraju S Kusumanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is awesome news! Thanks for sharing it. Now I just hope that the Dell systems come pre-installed with Debian! As much as I like Debian, but wouldn't Ubuntu make a better option? Actually no! If they go with Ubuntu, every 6 months they have to train their staff for the new release Ubuntu makes. Moreover, from my personal experinece, I think Debian Stable is much more stable than Ubuntu Stable. If they are serious about this, it is better if they go with Debian. raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian User List
David Baron wrote: Most recently, how much of the heavy traffic on this list has had anything to do with Debian? With Linux? With computers? The price of bread, love or hate Wallmart or Sponge-Bob, Ubuntu or Dell (ok U is a Linux distro and Dell makes computers, but...) Endless threads filling my mailbox with irrelevance. Actually, I do not mind the discussion about Ubuntu and Dell. We can learn a lot from Ubuntu folks (or any other distribution's users for that matter). I think the discussion about Dell computers (and hardware in general) is very helpful for Debian users. But it is the other topics you highlighted that get on my nerves... raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian User List
Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: Well, if people use [OT] on the subject I don't think there is any serious problem. Whom are you kidding? Some of us pay by the amount of bandwidth used. All the OT threads do cost us money. Moreover, there is the cost of archiving all these discussions which are not relevant to debian project. raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sarge + dist-upgrade = ?
Fernando Cacciola wrote: Hi All I just installed Debian Sarge from a 1-year old netinst CD on a HP Pavillion 1125LA notebook. Then I run apt-get dist-upgrade. What do I have now then? Still Sarge? 3.0, 3.1? The third field in /etc/apt/sources.list will tell you which distribution you are running. If you want to upgrade from Sarge to Etch, please read the release notes, (print it out) and then follow the instructions there. http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html hth raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux
Paul Walsh wrote: Passed to me by a colleague: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6506027.stm *grin* That is awesome news! Thanks for sharing it. Now I just hope that the Dell systems come pre-installed with Debian! raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to compile
Teilhard Knight wrote: I have an AMD64 box and I was looking to install the AMD64 Etch port. Only problem with that is that I want either Gnome or preferably KDE to go with it, and that port doesn't include those environments. Then I went 32 bit and installed the KDE version of i386. Now, I want to compile my driver module for my wireless nic. I am ready with everything, except that I do not know what packages I should install in Debian in order to be able to compile. I tries naively supposing I could compile out of the box and it failed. Could you help? Teilhard. What is the chipset used by your wireless card? You can find this info by looking at the output of lspci -v command. Most likely you need to use module-assistant to compile drivers for your wireless cards. raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: find encoding of filenames
Kevin Mark wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 maybe this would help: utf8-migration-tool I managed to install this package. But how exactly do I use this package? There is no binary, no manpages whatsoever. The /usr/share/doc/utf8-migration-tool/README is cryptic enough that I understood nothing from it. Any simple instructions on how to go about it? thanks raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
