Re: Can't find informatin on passwdqc, pwqcheck or cracklib

[Loïc Grenié]

On Fri March. 22, 2024, at 03:39, NC wrote:

> I'm wanting to upgrade my security, and like to use some of the
> suggested tools. I've installed some of the tools, but can't find man
> pages on them.  Similarly there's no results to be had from googling.
> I must be missing something..
>

As far as I can tell, passwdqc package installs man pages for

pwqcheck
pwqfilter
pwqgen

Loïc

Re: medically smart watches

[Loïc Grenié]

On Mon Feb 26th, 2024, at 15:49, Gene Heskett wrote:

> I have only one enabled radio, in a 3d printer, lists all the neighbors
> wifi routers it scans for and I assume the neighbors can hear it, but
> this things login id does not appear in its scan. Maybe its duff, IDK.
>

 I seriously doubt the watch has a wifi radio. Even if it has, you
  cannot see it because it's a client, not a server (that's the way
  wifi works).


> But w/o a bt
> connection to the net, it can't even tell the time, its about a month
> out of whack.
>

Even if you can pair it to your computer, I seriously doubt you can
  do anything because you'd need a program that is able to tell it
  what time it is (and I do not even talk about asking it about
  glucose levels -- but that's probably not a problem, because
  if it were that easy to do reliably, you'd find a lot of big-brand
  products doing it, and they would get a certification).

 Loïc

Re: medically smart watches

[Loïc Grenié]

On Sat Feb 24th, 2024, at 16:03, Gene Heskett wrote:

> Greetings all;
>
> As most of you know I'm a DM-II, but the recent shortage of trulicity, a
> weekly self administerd shot that helps regulate one's blood guclose
> levels has got us scrambling for alternatives.  So a month back I bought
> one of the so called smart watches that purports to monitor blood sugar.
>

"purports" appears to be the correct verb
https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/safety-communications/do-not-use-smartwatches-or-smart-rings-measure-blood-glucose-levels-fda-safety-communication

   (as for the rest of the mail, I have no idea whatsoever).

  Loïc

Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing

[Loïc Grenié]

On Mon Jan 15th, 2024 at 18:19, phoebus phoebus wrote:

> Hello,
>
> >> I confess I have not read all messages. I think "expect" might be the
> program
> >> you need.
>
> Thank you for your suggestion and assistance. While 'Expect' is primarily
> designed to automate interactions with text-based programs, its use for
> intercepting and managing escape sequences to enable pass-through mode on a
> terminal screen is complex, particularly in the specific context and
> configuration of our POS system.
>
> Given that the terminal needs to interact very frequently and dynamically
> with the printer based on real-time feedback from the server, I believe
> that 'Expect' may not be the best solution for our situation. It is
> generally more suitable for scripted interactions and predictable scenarios.
>
> I appreciate your input, and if you have any alternative suggestions or
> insights that align more closely with our requirements, I would be grateful
> for your guidance.
>

You may need to write the program yourself. It's probably not very
  complicated, but you have to be accustomed to writing programs.
  I'd write it in C, forking an ssh (or whatever is needed to connect
  to your server), leaving its standard input untouched, and piping
  its standard output to your program. Your program would send
  the data it receives to its own standard output, except between
  pairs of "magical escape sequences", where it would send the data
  either to the COM port, or to whatever program that may be needed.

   Best,

 Loïc

Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing

[Loïc Grenié]

 Dear Thierry,

On Fru Jan 12th, 2024 at 05:08, phoebus phoebus wrote:

> Dear members of the Debian community,
>
> I am currently on the lookout for a terminal emulator on Debian that can
> handle controlled printing from a remote server often referred to as
> "passthrough" printing. Our specific requirement is the ability to select
> the printing device using a specific method, either the physical COM port
> or the virtual COM port (emulated by a USB device).
>
> To be more precise, we want the terminal emulator to transmit data exactly
> as it is received from a remote server (which is a Linux server) when it
> attempts to print data through a set of escape sequences to send text in
> transparent mode. This transmission should be directed to the COM device
> without any modifications.
>
> We have noticed that PuTTY allows "passthrough" printing but
> unfortunately, it only works unidirectionally and requires the use of a
> serial software printer which also supports only unidirectional flow. While
> PuTTY can manage connections to devices via the serial port
> bidirectionally, it does not provide a solution to manage "passthrough"
> printing directly to the COM port. This configuration is described in the
> PuTTY documentation (https://documentation.help/PuTTY/config-printing.html
> ).
>
> Our application runs on Linux and needs to communicate with a specialized
> serial printer by sending data directly to it through a terminal emulator
> on a client machine (with the printer connected to the client machine's
> serial port).
>
> The purpose of my request is to explore the possibility of moving away
> from a third-party terminal emulator that runs on Windows and is compatible
> with somewhat older hardware and operating systems.
>
> I have conducted research within the list of available emulators on Debian
> but have not yet found a solution that meets our requirements. Therefore, I
> am reaching out to seek your assistance and suggestions. I have tried Tera
> Term (https://osdn.net/projects/ttssh2/releases/) but it does not offer
> the desired functionality.
>
> If you have any ideas or recommendations for a Debian terminal emulator
> capable of bidirectional "passthrough" printing, I would greatly appreciate
> hearing from you.
>
> Thank you in advance for your assistance and valuable suggestions.
>

I confess I have not read all messages. I think "expect" might be the
program
  you need.

  Best,

 Loïc

Re: Logout at apt upgrade

[Loïc Grenié]

On Sat Dec, 3, 2022 at 04:03, David Wright wrote:

> On Fri 02 Dec 2022 at 21:33:45 (-0500), The Wanderer wrote:
> >
> > FWIW:
> >
> > $ apt-cache policy udev
> > udev:
> >   Installed: 252.1-1
> >   Candidate: 252.1-1
> >   Version table:
> >  *** 252.1-1 900
> > 900 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing/main amd64 Packages
> > 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
> >  247.3-7+deb11u1 800
> > 800 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stable/main amd64 Packages
> >
> > IOW, this version isn't only in sid, it's also in testing.
>
> Yes, hence my comment on potential interactions between different
> packages. The OP mentioned udev, but in their OP they talked about
> manually restarting systemd services. I was under the impression
> that systemd and udev are upgraded in step, and AFAICT (as I'm not
> running bookworm or sid), they've had half a dozen upgrades in the
> last two months. Plenty of scope for interactions there.
>

 I run sid and am usually able to resolve the problems by myself.
  The fact is that during some upgrades X gets killed unexpectedly,
  without any warning, and on the console I see that some services
  do not start. I usually reboot but it's annoying; a couple of kills ago
  I tried to manually restart the failed services, and it's very time
  consuming.
I still don't know *what upgrade(s)* kill(s) X. I have suspected
  logind, libpam and udev, but I don't know for sure. I'll try udevadm
  monitor as you suggested.

 Hence I asked if anybody else experienced the same behaviour,
  and implicitly what I could do to prevent those X kills.


> Anyway, with my not having had similar problems, and receiving
> confirmation that I'm not running the same revision, I'm not the
> one to help troubleshoot this. (Boy, that's a load of negatives.)
>

 Thanks for your help! That's a positive!

 Loïc

Re: Logout at apt upgrade

[Loïc Grenié]

On Fri Dec 2 2022 at 04:31, David Wright wrote:

> On Wed 30 Nov 2022 at 14:25:19 (+0100), Loïc Grenié wrote:
> >  Happened once again. This time I think the culprit was udev (but I
> > cannot
> >   be too sure). Among the updated package nothing should have killed X:
> >   beyond udev there was a bunch of libreoffice and related (not using
> right
> >   now), zathura (not using), not much more, at the very least, nothing
> that
> >   looked susceptible to trigger a session crash.
>
> AFAICT udev was upgraded from 247.3-7 to 247.3-7+deb11u1 in
> early September, so which distribution are /you/ running?
>
> Cheers,
> David.
>
% lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Debian
Description:Debian GNU/Linux bookworm/sid
Release:n/a
Codename:   bookworm

% LANG=C dpkg -l udev
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
|
Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name   Version  Architecture Description
+++-==---===
ii  udev   252.1-1  amd64/dev/ and hotplug management
daemon

Cheers,

Loïc

Re: Logout at apt upgrade

[Loïc Grenié]

 Happened once again. This time I think the culprit was udev (but I
cannot
  be too sure). Among the updated package nothing should have killed X:
  beyond udev there was a bunch of libreoffice and related (not using right
  now), zathura (not using), not much more, at the very least, nothing that
  looked susceptible to trigger a session crash.

   Loïc

Re: Logout at apt upgrade

[Loïc Grenié]

 Thanks Tomas, and thanks to all those responded,

On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 06:16, Tomas wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 12:44:49AM +0100, DdB wrote:
> > Am 29.11.2022 um 23:35 schrieb Loïc Grenié:
> > > when I apt upgrade my system, I often (one every three, more
> > >   or less) find myself brutally logged out of the window system,
> > >   with systemd services painfully restarting (or failing to restart).
> > >   The only way I can recover is usually to reboot.
> >
> > Yes, i see similar problem, amd AFAICT it is somewhat related to my use
> > of GNOME3. They insist on restarting the system for almost all package
> > updates, but sometimes, i refuse to and keep the machine running without
> > updating it. I am aware, this could cause troubles on the security-side.
> > That is why i am keeping a long list of system-backups.
>
> FWIW it never happened to me. But: I'm on a pretty minimal system by
> today's standards (X, Fvwm). The only application behaving strangely
> after a dist-upgrade is... the browser, Firefix: "Ohmigod, something
> funny happened, I'll have to close this tab, I'm sooo sorry".
>

I'm using icebox with a dm. As far as I can tell this is not related
  to dm upgrade, nor to icebox upgrade. I agree that firefox used to
  say "something funny happened", but unfortunately it's just killed as
  everything else each time (and, then, I have to reboot). Fortunately,
  the programs I use do save their data regularly, so that I don't lose
  anything more than time in the process.

  Loïc

Logout at apt upgrade

[Loïc Grenié]

Dear Debian users,

when I apt upgrade my system, I often (one every three, more
  or less) find myself brutally logged out of the window system,
  with systemd services painfully restarting (or failing to restart).
  The only way I can recover is usually to reboot. I've tried to
  manually stop, kill the leftover processes and restart the services,
  one after the other, but it's very long and does not always work.
  I have observed this situation for a few years (maybe two or three,
  maybe more, I'm slow to bore).

Am I the only one? Is there a way to upgrade the system without
  rebooting as it used to be a few years ago? I remember updating
  libc.so without rebooting -- only the kernel needed reboot, and
  the window system, if specific files changed.

 Thanks, best,

 Loïc

Re: bash: which: command not found? + (E: Unable to locate package which? ...)

[Loïc Grenié]

On Fri 8 Jul 2022 at 12:03, Albretch Mueller wrote:

>  Actually, I just noticed I couldn't run "cat" as regular user but I
> could as root how could that form a "multiversing" be -technically-
> happening (other than having forces actively messing with your work)?
>

  This could happen if cat has mode 744 (executable only
  by owner) or some kind of SElinux magic.


> export _GRAALVM_HOME=.../graalvm-ce-java17-22.1.0
> export PATH=${PATH}:${_GRAALVM_HOME}/bin
> which javac
> which java
> $
>
> bash: which: command not found
>

 which has been deprecated. Use command -v. If you need which -a, you
are
  out of luck... Please find an attached which if you are interested.

# apt-get install which
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree... Done
> Reading state information... Done
> E: Unable to locate package which
> #
>
>
>
> # cat /etc/apt/sources.list
> # deb cdrom:[Official Debian GNU/Linux Live 11.2.0 lxde
> 2021-12-18T12:41]/ bullseye main
> #deb cdrom:[Official Debian GNU/Linux Live 11.2.0 lxde
> 2021-12-18T12:41]/ bullseye main
>
> deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main
> deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main
>
> # bullseye-updates, to get updates before a point release is made;
> # see
> https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_updates_and_backports
> # A network mirror was not selected during install.  The following entries
> # are provided as examples, but you should amend them as appropriate
> # for your mirror of choice.
> #
> deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye-updates main
> deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye-updates main
>
> deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
> deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
>
> deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security/ bullseye-security main
> contrib non-free
> deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian-security/ bullseye-security main
> contrib non-free
>
> deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
> deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib
> non-free
>
> #This system was installed using small removable media
> # (e.g. netinst, live or single CD). The matching "deb cdrom"
> # entries were disabled at the end of the installation process.
> # For information about how to configure apt package sources,
> # see the sources.list(5) manual.
>
> # which bash
> /usr/bin/bash
> #
>

Some shells have which baked in. For how long?

  Best,

  Loïc


which
Description: Binary data

Re: SSH timeout logoff don't work!

[Loïc Grenié]

Hi,

Le mar. 21 juin 2022 à 10:14, Conti Stefano  a écrit :

> Hello! In My Debian 11 SSH timeout logoff not work! I must put in .bashrc
> of my user: TMOUT=600 to loogut after 10 minutes. Work, of course, but
> close all bash terminal!
>
> This is my sshd_config with info for timeout:
>
> TCPKeepAlive no
> ClientAliveInterval 600
> ClientAliveCountMax 0
>
> Any suggest?
>

 Maybe

if [ "$(ps -o comm $PPID | tail -1)" = sshd ]; then TMOUT=600; fi

   This is not foolproof, but it should work if you do not abuse the system.

  Hope this helps,

 Loïc

Re: OT: Bash: what is eval doing here?

[Loïc Grenié]

On Fri June 10th 2022 at 17:26,  wrote:

> In my (seemingly unending) quest to understand ssh, I've come across a
> document that calls for running =eval 'ssh-agent'= from a command line.
>
> I wondered why, as I thought I would get the same result from just running
> =ssh-agent=, but the results are different -- see below:
>
> $ eval `ssh-agent`
> Agent pid 23929
>
> $ ssh-agent
> SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/ssh-uLqQ9VWX0RL7/agent.23932; export SSH_AUTH_SOCK;
> SSH_AGENT_PID=23933; export SSH_AGENT_PID;
> echo Agent pid 23933;
>
> Can anybody on here explain what is going on / why?
>

The command "ssh-agent" returns 3 lines. The "eval `ssh-agent`" command
  makes bash (or any other sh-compatible shell) runs those three lines as
if they
  had been typed. Hence it defines two variables (SSH_AUTH_SOCK and
  SSH_AGENT_PID) and prints "Agent pid 23933".

 Greetings,

  Loïc

Re: Please take this as constructive

[Loïc Grenié]

Hi,

On Tue 18 Jan 2022 at 07:48, R. Toby Richards wrote:

> Every time that I search for solutions to my wifi drivers, the solution is
> to apt-get install a bunch of drivers. Why does nobody realize that apt'ing
> anything is a non-solution: How can I apt-get install  if
> I don't have network drivers? There are DOZENS of responses to questions
> about network drivers that say to apt-get install various packages without
> any thought to the fact that nobody can apt without first having network
> drivers. It's seriously starting to  me off. I've got computers with
> Broadcom wifi. How the heck am I going to fix that by using networking to
> download the gosh darn drivers to fix the networking that I don't have? Of
> the dozens of "solutions" that I've read about this, NOBODY ever thinks
> about how to fix the network driver without having a network driver.
>
> Do I know how to use sneakernet? Yes. In my young adulthood, email was
> dialing into a BBS that would then dial the next closest free telephone
> call to another BBS, and so forth until your message from California got to
> the East Coast. Days. I remember trucks with huge spools of
> punch-cards that were data for the mainframe.
>

 I've been hit several time with this same problem, or variants thereof,
  and my solution has always been to have a separate computer with
  network access and use sneakernet between the two computers.
  I've always wondered how to do it better.


> When I try to use sneakernet to overcome the networking issues then I get
> errors from dpkg that it can't install debs because ldconfig and
> start-stop-daemon aren't available. I haven't bothered searching for the
> debs that provide those things because I cannot use a deb to fix dpkg
> because dpkg doesn't function.
>

 dpkg is a dependency of apt (through apt depends on adduser which
depends on
  {c,}debconf which depends on dpkg). If you do not fix dpkg, you will
probably not
   be able to install anything. To do that you will probably need to boot
on a live
   system and install the missing packages (non-trivial task). FYI, the
dependencies
   I get for dpkg are:

dpkg
gcc-11-base
libacl1
libbz2-1.0
libc6
libgcc-s1
liblzma5
libpcre2-8-0
libselinux1
tar
zlib1g



> The catch-22's are endless. In my case, I need Broadcom drivers. I can't
> get b43 over the network. I can't use sneakernet for b43 debs because dpkg
> doesn't work (let alone finding all the dependencies and dependencies of
> dependencies and so forth).
>
> Now what?
>

 Hope you can solve your problems,

 Loïc

Re: How to rotate screen AND input (consistently)

[Loïc Grenié]

Le sam. 20 nov. 2021 à 13:03, Dan Ritter  a écrit :

> riveravaldez wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm on Debian 11 in a ThinkPad X220 Tablet (convertible)
> > and I need to rotate the display (both physically and GUI)
> > which I do with:
> >
> > $ xrandr --output LVDS-1 --rotate inverted
> >
> > But then the input (trackpad/mouse, stylus, touchscreen, etc.)
> > doesn't rotate accordingly, so it gets unusable...
>
> Right, because for most cases, rotating a monitor doesn't mean
> picking up your mouse and rotating it, too.
>
> If you've got an external mouse, you'll see that works just
> fine, but that defeats the point of a tablet.
>
> > I've been reading different recommendations online
> > but can't figure out which would be the best/proper/simpler
> > approach to achieve this reliably (that hardware input
> > stays consistent with the GUI in display when rotated).
> >
> > What should I do? Any hint?
>
> I haven't done this, but I believe xinput is going to be your
> friend. It can list devices, list properties, and set whatever
> needs to be set.


I do something like that. In my script the two corresponding
  lines are:

TOUCHPAD=`xinput --list --short | grep Synaptics | grep -i pointer | sed -e
's/.*id=//' -e 's/[^0-9].*//'`
xinput set-prop $TOUCHPAD 169 0 -1 0 1 0 0 0 0 1

169 is the "coordinate transformation matrix" for my touchpad.

Hope this helps,

 Loïc

Re: May I please have a block cursor in nano?

[Loïc Grenié]

On Sat 26 Dec 2020 at 03:03, Bob Bernstein wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Dec 2020, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>
> > Perhaps what you have to do is to change the shape of your
> > terminal's cursor, and nano inherits it.
>
> Firstly, thanks to ALL of you who took time out on this holiday
> to answer my (pretty dumb) question!
>
> I'm certain this is one of those things I knew clearly, say, as
> few years ago as ten, but getting old sucks.
>
> OF COURSE the app looks to the terminal for its cursor policy,
> and OF COURSE my terminal (mintty running in cygwin -- LONG
> story) also lacked a block cursor.
>

Try to look in:

https://github.com/mintty/mintty/wiki/CtrlSeqs

   ESC[1 q or ESC[2 q might solve your problem (there is a space before q).

  Hope this helps,

Loïc




> Thank you all. You people are just great, but maybe I'm feeling
> that on account of all the time I've had to spend with my wife's
> family over the holidays. 
>
> Bob B.
> --
> These are not the droids you are looking for.
>
>

Re: bash script globbing

[Loïc Grenié]

2015-09-20 22:20 GMT+02:00 :

> I have been using the following script (named "enscript+") as a substitute
> for the package "a2ps":
>
> #!/bin/bash
> enscript --media=letter -2 --landscape --borders \
> --header='$n|A.D. $D{%Y.%m.%d}|$* gmt | Page $% of $=' "$1"
>

Here "$1" means "for the first argument"
   If enscript can work with several files together, you cn substitue "$1"
simply
  by "$@"
  If however enscript can only work one file at a time, you can do the
following:

for f in "$@"
do
  
done

 Hope this helps.

  Loïc


> The script works properly for a single file:
>
> enscript+ filename
>
> But when I execute
>
> enscript+ *
>
> in a directory containing several files, enscript prints only the first
> file in the directory.
>
> I googled "bash script globbing", but the discussions which I found are
> deep and confusing.  Is there not a simple solution?
>
> RLH
>
>
>

Re: reading an empty directory after reboot is very slow

[Loïc Grenié]

2015-04-13 14:39 GMT+02:00 Vincent Lefevre vinc...@vinc17.net:
 I have some regular directory ~/eftests/tmp, and after a reboot,
 I often check that it is empty (as I remove its contents before
 the reboot): from the ~/eftests directory, I do

   ypig:~/eftests ll tmp

 which corresponds to

   ls -bF --color -l tmp

 after alias expansion.

 The problem is that this operation is (always?) very slow: something
 like 100 seconds (1 minute and 40 seconds). It has been reproducible
 for several months. The logs show nothing during this operation.

 Any idea?

Maybe the directory is very large (even though its empty). Try

ls -ld tmp.

 and see if the file tmp is large. In that case,

cp -a tmp tmp2  rm -rf tmp  mv tmp2 tmp

   should cure the problem (in 3min20).

 I'm thinking of a possible hardware problem (the machine and the disk
 are 5 years old), but I would have expected some message in the logs
 in such a case. Is there any way to check?

 Possbile but unlikely.

 Hope this helps,

   Loïc


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Re: making my Wheezy beep. How?

[Loïc Grenié]

2014-01-31 Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net:
 I want my Wheezy desktop (windowing with xfce) to issue a beep after a
 adjustable amount of time. I expected that I could do this with a tiny
 bash script using sleep and echo, but I cannot get echo to make the
 computer issue a beep as it should according to the man page. What
 special knowledge is needed? Why don't I get a beep with:

 echo -e \a

You need a terminal (either Linux console or standard xterm/
  gnome-terminal/kde-terminal/eterm/whaterver terminal) to interpret
  the \a as a beep. Either run your script in a terminal (but that
  will probably have visual artifact that are not very nice) or use the
  command beep as suggested by Scott.

  Hope this helps,

 Loïc


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Re: dpkg-query - package unpacked, no version ???

[Loïc Grenié]

2013/9/2 Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net:
 Anyone know why I get this:

 $ dpkg-query --list vim-athena
 Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
 | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
 |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
 ||/ NameVersionArchitecture   Description
 +++-===-==-==-
 un  vim-athena  none(no description 
 available)


 The u means that you have not expressed any desire on this
  package: never installed it, never removed it. The n means it's
  not installed. It's thus an existing, non installed, package for which
  you never showed any interest and is not needed by any other
  installed package.

  Hope this helps,

 Loïc


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Re: Highlighting CLI output: what are these terms called?

[Loïc Grenié]

2013/4/17 Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com:
 The following page has a nice example of how to highlight text in logfiles:
 http://www.euperia.com/linux/how-to-highlight-keywords-when-using-tail/903

 Here is the example:
 tail -f file.log | perl -pe 's/keyword/\e[1;31;43m$\e[0m/g'

 What are the regex replacements in the second part of the replace
 called? They are rather hard to goolge for without a name! If anybody
 has a good resource bookmarked with examples, I would love to see that
 as well.

Hi,

these are ANSI escape codes, ANSI escape sequences,
  ANSI control codes, ANSI control sequences, ...

  Hope this helps,

 Loïc


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Re: libflash (64 bit) problem on kongregate.com

[Loïc Grenié]

2012/3/19 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com:
 On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 22:02:24 +0100, Loïc Grenié wrote:

 2012/3/19 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com:

 And can I know what's its current value (on/off)? I never touched this.

     There is a string

 allowThirdPartyLSOAccess

   in the file, followed by several bytes. The first one is 1 (^A with
   vi) the second one is the value: 0 (^@ with vi) is off, 1 (^A) is on.

 Mmm... according to the Wikipedia article you pointed before, this
 setting can be controlled from the web control panel:

 http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager03.html

 Global Storage Settings panel
 [x] Allow Third-Party Content To Store Data On Your Computer.

 Which I have indeed, enabled, because that's the default setting.

 Can you check if altering this option from the web panel makes the
 corresponding change at the settings.sol file? I summon your magical
 powers for reading the .sol thingy, powers that I have not developed...
 yet }:-)

 Yes it does. And that's the only setting it modifies (checked with
  hexdump).

 Thanks,

Loïc


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Re: libflash (64 bit) problem on kongregate.com

[Loïc Grenié]

2012/3/19 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com:
 It works and runs fine here (using 64 bits firefox and 64 bits flash
 plugin). Maybe is something at your side... does your ISP has some
 sort of proxy tha could be interferring? Can you try to access the site
 from a different ISP?

I've just tried from a different ISP (my computer is a laptop, that
  helps !). Same thing

However 

When I set

allowThirdPartyLSOAccess

  to true, it works.

Now this is a little bit worrying (I don't know what it's for,
  but it looks like it's privacy related).

Does anybody know what this setting is for ?

   Thanks,

Loïc


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Re: libflash (64 bit) problem on kongregate.com

[Loïc Grenié]

2012/3/19 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com:
 On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 15:34:17 +0100, Loïc Grenié wrote:

 2012/3/19 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com:
 It works and runs fine here (using 64 bits firefox and 64 bits flash
 plugin). Maybe is something at your side... does your ISP has some sort
 of proxy tha could be interferring? Can you try to access the site from
 a different ISP?

     I've just tried from a different ISP (my computer is a laptop, that
   helps !). Same thing

     However 

     When I set

 allowThirdPartyLSOAccess

   to true, it works.

 Where did you set that value? Firefox (browser), Adobe Flash Plugin
 settings? I don't remember of having to do any adjustment for it :-?

vi

  more precisely

vi 
~/.macromedia/Flash_Player/macromedia.com/support/flashplayer/sys/settings.sol

     Now this is a little bit worrying (I don't know what it's for,
   but it looks like it's privacy related).

     Does anybody know what this setting is for ?

 Nope, sorry, never heard of that before :-)

As I expected (google helps !)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_shared_object
Local shared objects (LSOs), commonly called flash cookies

I am re-enabling cross-site cookies. I do not find *where* I
  can disable it and *when* I did it, however I have disabled
  cross-site cookies and that's what blocks kongregate games.

I'm trying to find a workaround...

  Thanks a lot,

   Loïc


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Re: libflash (64 bit) problem on kongregate.com

[Loïc Grenié]

2012/3/19 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com:
 On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 16:05:56 +0100, Loïc Grenié wrote:

 2012/3/19 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com:

     When I set

 allowThirdPartyLSOAccess

   to true, it works.

 Where did you set that value? Firefox (browser), Adobe Flash Plugin
 settings? I don't remember of having to do any adjustment for it :-?

 vi

   more precisely

 vi
 ~/.macromedia/Flash_Player/macromedia.com/support/flashplayer/sys/settings.sol

 Is that file directly editable? :-?

Yes (technically) but not really (practically). You have to use binary
  mode and you'd better keep a clean copy (if you err -- as I did).

     Now this is a little bit worrying (I don't know what it's for,
   but it looks like it's privacy related).

     Does anybody know what this setting is for ?

 Nope, sorry, never heard of that before :-)

     As I expected (google helps !)

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_shared_object Local shared objects
 (LSOs), commonly called flash cookies

     I am re-enabling cross-site cookies. I do not find *where* I
   can disable it and *when* I did it, however I have disabled cross-site
   cookies and that's what blocks kongregate games.

 I did hear about flash cookies but I don't know where the settings can be
 configured... oh, wait, there's a control panel for adobe flash plugin I
 never install, maybe this value can be tweaked from there.

 Or here:

 http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager.html

 But I can't see any option to enable/disable that setting.

No, I don't see it either. It's possible that adobe does not want
  you to edit it !

     I'm trying to find a workaround...

 No way. Sites require cookies, all require cookies right now. I do allow all
 cookies for any site, but I delete all of them when I close the browser (which
 happens every minute :-P). It's annoying having to deal with an amnesic
 browser but it avoids many headaches (like this of yours) :-)

I didn't know you could erase Flash cookies at each exit. However,
  I want to keep my scores in Gemcraft, no way I delete all the cookies
  at each exit (my browser cookies, however, are deleted at each exit).

   Loïc


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Re: libflash (64 bit) problem on kongregate.com

[Loïc Grenié]

2012/3/19 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com:
 On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 16:39:02 +0100, Loïc Grenié wrote:

 2012/3/19 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com:

 ~/.macromedia/Flash_Player/macromedia.com/support/flashplayer/sys/settings.sol

 Is that file directly editable? :-?

     Yes (technically) but not really (practically). You have to use
     binary
   mode and you'd better keep a clean copy (if you err -- as I did).

 And can I know what's its current value (on/off)? I never touched this.

There is a string

allowThirdPartyLSOAccess

  in the file, followed by several bytes. The first one is 1 (^A with vi)
  the second one is the value: 0 (^@ with vi) is off, 1 (^A) is on.

 Loïc


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Re: libflash (64 bit) problem on kongregate.com

[Loïc Grenié]

2012/3/17 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com:
 On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 18:45:37 +0100, Loïc Grenié wrote:

 2012/3/17 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com:

 (...)

 Is something about connecting the bots?

     Yeah. (It works with firefox-32bits+veryoldflash-32bits).

 Ensure that your browser is loading the abobe flash plugin instead gnash
 or any other one (right click over the grey square game).

It's flash: 11.1.102.63 (I've just updated !)

 Is this the only game from the site that fails to load?

No, unfortunately not, most (if not all) games that I've tried
  fail to work.

 I works here (lenny + firefox 11.0 + flash player from adobe, v.
 11.1.102.63).

 Try by cleaning the browser's cache (files, cookies...).

    Unfortunately it was not sufficient.

 Sorry to hear that. You can also try by getting Firefox 11 (no
 installation required) with the latest available version of flash plugin
 from Adobe and check if that works.

If failed with Firefox 6, Firefox 9, now Firefox 10 (actually iceweasel,
  but it does not change). Unfortunately FF11 is available only as
  32 bits builds. I'm not holding my breath also because it fails
  also with konqueror (which is independent of Firefox).

Thanks,

  Loïc


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Re: libflash (64 bit) problem on kongregate.com

[Loïc Grenié]

2012/3/18 Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz:
 On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 07:55:06AM +0100, Loïc Grenié wrote:
 2012/3/17 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com:
  On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 18:45:37 +0100, Loïc Grenié wrote:
 
  2012/3/17 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com:
 
  (...)
 
  Is something about connecting the bots?
 
      Yeah. (It works with firefox-32bits+veryoldflash-32bits).
 
  Ensure that your browser is loading the abobe flash plugin instead gnash
  or any other one (right click over the grey square game).

     It's flash: 11.1.102.63 (I've just updated !)

  Is this the only game from the site that fails to load?

     No, unfortunately not, most (if not all) games that I've tried
   fail to work.

 Youtube?

Works !

Unrelated but I've found something more: if I download the game and
  open it directly with Firefox/Iceweasel then it works. There is probably
  a problem with some kind of connection (ad-blocker somewhere in the
  download chain).

  Loïc


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libflash (64 bit) problem on kongregate.com

[Loïc Grenié]

Hi all,

   I have a 64bit Debian (sid) system. I have a problem with libflash.
  I've installed flashplugin-nonfree and the plugin is reasonably
  recent (11.1.102.62). However on some (most, all ?) kongregate
  games, I cannot get to the effective game. For instance:

http://www.kongregate.com/games/TheSunrize/netbots

  gets through the Armor Games splash and becomes solid
  gray.

Is it a known problem ? Does anybody know how to get
  the *actual* game ?

Thanks a lot,

Loïc


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Re: libflash (64 bit) problem on kongregate.com

[Loïc Grenié]

2012/3/17 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com:
 On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 16:13:07 +0100, Loïc Grenié wrote:


    I have a 64bit Debian (sid) system. I have a problem with libflash.
   I've installed flashplugin-nonfree and the plugin is reasonably recent
   (11.1.102.62).

 Latest is 11.1.102.63 :-P

 However on some (most, all ?) kongregate games, I
   cannot get to the effective game. For instance:

 http://www.kongregate.com/games/TheSunrize/netbots

   gets through the Armor Games splash and becomes solid gray.

     Is it a known problem ? Does anybody know how to get
   the *actual* game ?

 Is something about connecting the bots?

Yeah. (It works with firefox-32bits+veryoldflash-32bits).

 I works here (lenny + firefox 11.0 + flash player from adobe, v.
 11.1.102.63).

 Try by cleaning the browser's cache (files, cookies...).

   Unfortunately it was not sufficient.

Thanks,

  Loïc


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