Re: mga_vid driver - any news? (Newbie)
On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 17:59 +0100, Sylvain Vedrenne wrote: Now I'm starting with Debian Sid / 2.6.3. I can watch videos with xine, but I'm convinced the quality can be better. It looks there is no mga_vid.ko or something... Will there be one in the future? I think you need to ask the Matrox guys this question since IIRC mga_vid is proprietary. That said, I own a G550 and didn't see a difference between mga_vid and using the xv driver. regards, Mario -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what app includes 'startx' command
On Tue, 2004-03-02 at 13:57 -0800, MJ Inabnit wrote: I'm testing the latest debian Sarge installer. It's improving, but . . . What application includes the startx command? I realize I can install xdm/gdm/whateverDM, but I like keeping things lite on the older computers. Anyway, I have x configured, I bet it'd display Fluxbox great, if I could only launch x :) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ~ $ apt-cache search startx xbase-clients - miscellaneous X clients [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ~ $ Interestingly, I get Can't find that file, at least not in that distribution and on that architecture. on packages.debian.org: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=startxsearchmode=searchfilescase=insensitiveversion=testingarch=i386 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: uninstall Debian Linux
On Mon, 2004-03-01 at 19:19 +, Ken Gilmour wrote: Mandrake (which has a free version and also it's backend is Debian) Mandrakes backend is not debian, they use rpms. In fact they started out as a RedHat compiled for pentium CPUs, but have since then matured into being just Mandrake. You may be thinking of MEPIS, a new and very small Debian-based distro which recently got rave reviews. It also has free downloads. The OP may want to have a look at http://www.distrowatch.com/ for a very comprehensive listing of distros, their merits, and intended audience. Also includes lots of links to reviews -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Locale problems on 2.6.2 bootup
On Sun, 2004-02-29 at 01:09 -0700, s. keeling wrote: If you didn't do it, it's probably coming from /etc/profile Or /etc/environment -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: google or debian-user?
On Wed, 2004-02-25 at 14:39 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However I will in the future assume that any problem I have is the same in all distros and I will do searches on the web first. An invaluable resource on the art of asking questions, despite the overblown hacker talk, is ESR's How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.6.2, acpi, on_ac_power
On Tue, 2004-02-24 at 09:11 +0100, Erich Waelde wrote: you did modprobe asus_acpi as well, did you? Yes, but that only yields me an empty /proc/acpi/asus. I am under the impression that asus_acpi is only for certain Asus laptops. Mine is a regular desktop though. From http://sourceforge.net/projects/acpi4asus/ : This project is a Linux kernel driver that allows owners of Asus laptops to use all the functionality of their computers such as special keys, special LEDs, brightness control, ... this project is included in the Linux kernel (since 2.4.22 and 2.5.X). I also had to add acpi=on acpi_irq_balance acpi_irq_isa=3,12 to the boot options. I'm using an Asus M2400N notebook and stock 2.6.2-1-386 kernel. I got this from www.tuxmobil.com and references therein. As above. Still, thanks :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kernel 2.6.2, acpi, on_ac_power
Hi, now that I run kernel 2.6.2 (stock debian config, from backports.org), I have switched from apm to acpi (which I now not much about). I have an Asus P4PE mobo with an Intel 845PE chipset. Distro is woody + stuff from backports.org acpid is running (ps shows /usr/sbin/acpid -c /etc/acpi/events -s /var/ run/.acpid.socket), apmd is gone. I can 'echo 1 /proc/acpi/sleep', and the systems reacts. However, I can't get anachron to run without commenting out the on_ac_power check. I am aware of problems with old powermgmt-base packages, like in this posting http://lists.debian.org/debian- laptop/2003/debian-laptop-200308/msg00087.html . However, I have upgraded my powermgmt-base to 1.17 from backports.org. As it should, on_ac_power checks for /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/. This fails though, because I'm missing ac_adapter. All I have is this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ~ $ ls /proc/acpi/* /proc/acpi/alarm /proc/acpi/dsdt /proc/acpi/event /proc/acpi/fadt /proc/acpi/info /proc/acpi/sleep /proc/acpi/embedded_controller: /proc/acpi/power_resource: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ~ $ lsmod|grep acpi shows no hits, and I don't know if this matters. I wonder if something is fundamentally wrong with my acpi stuff - I do want to use it, and before I'm diving into complicated territory, I'd like to check the basics. Thanks for input, Mario -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.6.2, acpi, on_ac_power
On Mon, 2004-02-23 at 21:46 +0100, Mario Vukelic wrote: lsmod|grep acpi shows no hits Forced to reply to own post, sorry Ok, I found acpi modules in /lib/modules/2.6.2-1-686/kernel/drivers/acpi and modprobed them (ac, battery, button, fan, processor, thermal). They insert without errors. No I have all the dires in /proc/acpi, but they are mostly empty. Somethings seems very wrong here: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ~ $ ls /proc/acpi/* /proc/acpi/alarm /proc/acpi/dsdt /proc/acpi/event /proc/acpi/fadt / proc/acpi/info /proc/acpi/sleep /proc/acpi/ac_adapter: /proc/acpi/battery: /proc/acpi/button: power /proc/acpi/embedded_controller: /proc/acpi/fan: /proc/acpi/power_resource: /proc/acpi/processor: CPU0 /proc/acpi/thermal_zone: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ~ $ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbish Q: Why modprobe.d *and* modutils?
On Thu, 2004-02-19 at 21:14 +0100, Andreas Janssen wrote: Yes, you are right. Kernel 2.6 uses /etc/modprobe.d (and if you use update-modules, the contents are written to /lib/modules/modprobe.conf, which is included in /etc/modprobe.conf). Use update-modules.modutils to update /etc/modules.conf from /etc/ modutils/* for 2.4 Use update-modules to update /lib/modules/modprobe.conf from /etc/ modprobe.d/* for 2.6 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kernel 2.6.2: no arp replies with Intel Etherexpress 100 - no connection; works fine with 2.4.23
Hi, OS is Debian Woody + backports (mainly backports.org). This machine has 2 NICs. It does IP masquerading for the internal LAN. eth0 is a Broadcom 4400 onboard interface (on Asus P4PE). Kernel module is b44. It is used by pppoe to connect to my ADSL provider. eth1 is an Intel Etherexpress 100 card, using the e100 kernel module (but using the eepro100 module doesn't help either). It connects to the internal LAN. /etc/network/interfaces: auto lo iface lo inet loopback # eth0 is pppoe auto eth1 iface eth1 inet static address 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.1.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 When trying to connect between 192.168.1.1 (masquerading host) and 192.168.1.2 (laptop) on the internal LAN, the situation is described in detail further down. I get no connection in both directions, but the tests below where done from 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.1.2. Just to be suree I tried it with the laptop running self-compiled versions of 2.4.23 and 2.6.0-test11, plus the Debian image for 2.6.2. Everything works fine with each of those kernels, as long as the masquerading host runs 2.4.23. All tests were done with all ICMP filtering off on the masquerading host *** 2.4.23 *** Everthing works fine. The kernel is self-compiled (ipv6 is not compiled in, in case this matters) /etc/modules.conf: ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/nics alias eth1 e100 alias eth0 b44 Output from ifconfig: eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:E0:18:F4:0E:AC UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:286 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:312 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:2 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:70652 (68.9 KiB) TX bytes:23143 (22.6 KiB) Interrupt:10 eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:A0:C9:3B:00:87 inet addr:192.168.1.1 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:183 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:173 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:14417 (14.0 KiB) TX bytes:16632 (16.2 KiB) Interrupt:9 Base address:0xb000 Memory:f500-f538 loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:934 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:934 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:692767 (676.5 KiB) TX bytes:692767 (676.5 KiB) ppp0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol inet addr:external IP from ADSL P-t-P:IP of P-t-P partner Mask:255.255.255.255 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1492 Metric:1 RX packets:224 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:249 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:3 RX bytes:60800 (59.3 KiB) TX bytes:12577 (12.2 KiB) While pinging from 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.1.2, I get this from tcpdump: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ~ # tcpdump host 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.1.2 -i eth1 -n tcpdump: listening on eth1 15:58:19.473365 arp who-has 192.168.1.2 tell 192.168.1.1 15:58:19.473430 192.168.1.1 192.168.1.2: icmp: echo request (DF) 15:58:19.473593 arp reply 192.168.1.2 is-at 0:50:ba:77:77:cd 15:58:19.473694 192.168.1.2 192.168.1.1: icmp: echo reply 15:58:20.556722 192.168.1.1 192.168.1.2: icmp: echo request (DF) 15:58:20.556980 192.168.1.2 192.168.1.1: icmp: echo reply [etc.] 60 packets received by filter 0 packets dropped by kernel Looks fine and works. On the other hand: *** 2.6.2 *** I get no connection to 192.168.1.2. The kernel is the image from backports.org, with Herbert Xu's default config. Except the current issue everything works fine. /lib/modules/modprobe.conf ### update-modules: start processing ethernet ### alias eth1 e100 alias eth0 b44 Output from ifconfig: eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:E0:18:F4:0E:AC inet6 addr: fe80::2e0:18ff:fef4:eac/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:144 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:152 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:5 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:18886 (18.4 KiB) TX bytes:11171 (10.9 KiB) Interrupt:20 eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:A0:C9:3B:00:87 inet addr:192.168.1.1 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::2a0:c9ff:fe3b:87/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:68 errors:0 dropped:3 overruns:0 frame:3 TX packets:61 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:2730 (2.6 KiB)
Re: Does dpkg -l refer only to installed, as opposed to available, packages?
On Sat, 2004-02-14 at 03:24, Colin Watson wrote: 'dpkg -p' lists whatever's in /var/lib/dpkg/available; 'dpkg -l' lists whatever's in /var/lib/dpkg/status. Uh, for me (dpkg 1.9.21) man says -l lists available, and -p dpkg -p|--print-avail package Display details about package, as found in /var/lib/dpkg/available. dpkg -l | --list package-name-pattern ... List packages matching given pattern. If no package-name-pattern is given, list all packages in /var/lib/dpkg/available. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Windows and Printing Systems
On Sat, 2004-01-31 at 11:56, Kent West wrote: Marius Amado Alves wrote: * Window/Desktop System * I manage to get a decent resolution working with twn. Now, can I change to a more modern system? [...] You've probably installed stable, which is ancient. stable is suitable for a server machine, but for a workstation, it is my opinion that stable is just too obsolete. Change your sources.list to testing, or even unstable This measure is a bit drastic. Even on stable one can get a much more modern windowing environment than twm. Personally, after being on unstable for years, I moved back to stable + backports. Unstable, while being decently stable, imposed too much work on me for my tastes (i.e., debconf questions to answer, conffiles to change). For a decently new system without any hassle (but admittedly not bleeding edge), I recommend to rund woody and get relevant stuff from http://www.backports.org/ (backports.org will switch to provied backports for sarge once it's released) Gnome 2.2 I get from the evilgeniuses backport http://www.debianplanet.org/node.php?id=992 There probably is something similar for KDE too Everything else I want I usually find through http://www.apt-get.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pppupd... where has it gone ?
On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 01:40, Ian Perry wrote: Hi, I noticed that pppupd is not in Debian 3. Is there something different, or has pppd been modified/updated to take care of redialling after a connection is broken on a modem ? man pppd: persist Do not exit after a connection is terminated; instead try to reopen the connection. The maxfail option still has an effect on persistent connections. maxfail n Terminate after n consecutive failed connection attempts. A value of 0 means no limit.The default value is 10. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: pppupd... where has it gone ?
[cc'ing the list again] On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 03:46, Ian Perry wrote: Excellent !! glad to be of service :) I had tailored pppupd to check every 30 mins (to keep the phone bill down when the ISP goes tropical). I am guessing I can use holdoff for this function. Have a look at the demand option: Initiate the link only on demand, i.e. when data traffic is present. -Original Message- From: Mario Vukelic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 28 January 2004 1:15 PM To: Debian Users Subject: Re: pppupd... where has it gone ? On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 01:40, Ian Perry wrote: Hi, I noticed that pppupd is not in Debian 3. Is there something different, or has pppd been modified/updated to take care of redialling after a connection is broken on a modem ? man pppd: persist Do not exit after a connection is terminated; instead try to reopen the connection. The maxfail option still has an effect on persistent connections. maxfail n Terminate after n consecutive failed connection attempts. A value of 0 means no limit.The default value is 10. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Configuration of Herbert Xu's kernel-image-2.6
On Sat, 2004-01-03 at 12:03, GCS wrote: Could be a mistake of 'make allyesconfig' or whatever. Please note that packaging the 2.6.0 version of kernels is probably not sane enough. Thanks, that helps. Will investigate further -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Configuration of Herbert Xu's kernel-image-2.6
Hi, having never used precompiled kernels before, I'm a bit surprised to find these enabled in Herbert Xu's 2.6 kernel image (section General Setup): CONFIG_EMBEDDED=y CONFIG_KALLSYMS=y CONFIG_FUTEX=y CONFIG_EPOLL=y # CONFIG_OPTIMISE_SIZE is not set CONFIG_IOSCHED_NOOP=y CONFIG_IOSCHED_AS=y CONFIG_IOSCHED_DEADLINE=y The help text says, e.g. CONFIG_EMBEDDED: This option allows certain base kernel features to be removed from the build. This is for specialized environments which can tolerate a non-standard kernel. Only use this if you really know what you are doing. There are other similarly not reassuring help texts for the other options that make me doubt I want this on my desktop machine. I haven't found anything relevant on google, lkml, or kerneltrap, but before wasting Herbert's time I'd like to ask for enlightenment on this regards, Mario -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: woody: devpts, pppd, and kernel-2.6: failed connection to /dev/pts/0
On Wed, 2003-12-31 at 20:07, Mario Vukelic wrote: Using the kernel-image, pppd tries to use /dev/pts/num, which fails, and leads to a timeout: Dec 31 18:06:34 sonic pppd[447]: pppd 2.4.1 started by root, uid 0 Dec 31 18:06:34 sonic pppd[447]: Serial connection established. Dec 31 18:06:34 sonic pppd[447]: Using interface ppp0 Dec 31 18:06:34 sonic pppd[447]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/pts/0 Dec 31 18:07:05 sonic pppd[447]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests Dec 31 18:07:05 sonic pppd[447]: Connection terminated. Replying to myself, sigh. After compiling 2.6.0 w/o devpts, I found out that ppp still times out, although it tries to connect vi /dev/ttyp0, as it did with my old kernel. Now I'm completely lost. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: woody: devpts, pppd, and kernel-2.6: failed connection to /dev/pts/0
On Thu, 2004-01-01 at 15:48, Mario Vukelic wrote: After compiling 2.6.0 w/o devpts, I found out that ppp still times out, although it tries to connect vi /dev/ttyp0, as it did with my old kernel. Now I'm completely lost. Seems I'm the only one that cares for me ;o) Strangely, further experiments showed that ppp works with the 2.4.22 kernel image provided by Adrian Bunk, although it uses devpts. I guess the same would be true for the stock Debian 2.4-kernel. So I think I get this narrowed down to an issue with devpts in kernel 2.6 or the 2.6 image from backports.org. I still have the prob that I have no mouse (both gpm and in X using /dev/input/mice in XF86Config-4 as I've always done) with the self-compiled kernel that has always worked, although the mouse again works with Adrian Bunk's image. I have absolutely no idea why this can be. Any takers for one of these issues? regards, M -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: woody: devpts, pppd, and kernel-2.6: failed connection to /dev/pts/0
On Thu, 2004-01-01 at 17:19, Paul Morgan wrote: If you google on the error message, a lot of potentially useful links appear. Might be worth doing some research that way. Unfortunately, no. Thanks for trying, though :). I've googled for hours to no avail. Problem is (see also my post in this thread a couple of minutes ago): My old trusty 2.4 w/o devpts works Adrian Bunk's 2.4 image w/ devpts works backports.org's 2.6 w/ devpts doesn't work Selfcompiled 2.6w/o devpts doesn't work (btw, I don't use devfs) This is 100% reproducible for me, and there is no reference to a problem with ppp/pppoe + kernel 2.6 on Google that I can find, and on kerneltrap.org and lkml there's nothing either And in addition: Since trying out 2.6 my mouse stopped working with my own 2.4, although it works with 2.6 and _also with Bunk's 2.4 image. Here I have absolutely no idea -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: woody: devpts, pppd, and kernel-2.6: failed connection to /dev/pts/0
On Thu, 2004-01-01 at 18:13, Jan Minar wrote: Notice there is no info that could actually be used to figure out what went wrong. That's a correct observation. This is because there is no more info in the logs. I did post what info there is. If I had that info, I would have figured it out and corrected it by yesterday on my own - I'm not a newbie. As it stands, the kernel boots ok but does not manage to open a pty. I hoped that someone could point me to things like * This is a known prob in 2.6 or * 2.6 needs a newer version of ppp or * Check this or that or * Works for me Thanks anyway -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: help needed- linux
On Sat, 2003-12-27 at 18:21, padmini badrinath wrote: and i am trying to read or access the mdb files from linux. This, am trying with the linux odbc driver I wanted to kno if the odbc manager is required for this purpose or is there a better way to do this mdb is the MS Access file frmat and is proprietary. A quick search on google finds a methods: http://mdbtools.sourceforge.net/ http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2002-April/099591.html http://www.iodbc.org/wwwboard/messages/1720.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: woody: devpts, pppd, and kernel-2.6: failed connection to /dev/pts/0
On Thu, 2004-01-01 at 19:39, Jan Minar wrote: pppd printing out those ``ppp0 - /dev/foo'' lines doesn't mean /dev/foo is OK. It happily printed these when running over a serial port, wile it wasn't able to establish a connection. Interesting. Though in my case (debug option on) it prints lots of sent and rcvd lines if it works, and only 1 sent and no rcvd if it doesn't. Not enough to know what's wrong but enough to tell there is something :) Trace what pppd writes/reads -- use the pppd's `pty' option. Thanks, will look into that -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel 2.6 and module-init-tools
On Thu, 2004-01-01 at 21:51, Deboo wrote: Debian Woody system, compiling 2.6 time and again keeps giving a VFS: Kernel Panic: Unable to mount root fs error, however many times I recompile. do you have everything you need compiled in? Filesystems of root/boot partition, IDE controller etc? I you have them as modules, do you have initrd-tools, and have you created an initrd image? I do not have module init tools installed. Installing module-init-tools says that it conflicts with modutils ... the doc for 2.6 says that they can co-exist. Now what's happenning here? How do I compile and install kernel 2.6? Is there any good resources/articles about 2.6 ? Has anyone been able to install it on woody? backports.org has a kernel-2.6 package that will pull in kernel-image, a module-init-tools that coexists with modutils, updated hdparm and everything else you need. Boots for me, however pppd fails to open a pty for me with all 2.6-kernels I tried (backports.org's image, selfcompiled, ...). Would be happy to hear your experiences :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: was wondering
On Wed, 2003-12-31 at 07:13, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..or PS1='\[\033[1;33m\]\u\[\033[1;[EMAIL PROTECTED];32m\]\H\[\033 [1;37m\]:\[\0 33[1;31m\]\w \[\033[1;36m\]\$ \[\033[0m\]' ;-) this ^ space has to go Too colored for my taste, though :) Seems a good time to ask a question: Since my brain always segfaults when I read about interactive vs. login shells and the files they read on startup, I never managed to find out what I have to do to make the prompt change when doing a 'su'. 'su -' obviously works. Thanks for hints :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: was wondering
lol. And thanks for the .bashrc hint -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: modutils for kernel 2.6.x and Woody
On Wed, 2003-12-31 at 14:56, Frank A. Uepping wrote: does someone know a package for the new modutils for Woody? Adrian Bunk has them, backports.org too http://www.apt-get.org/search.php?query=module-init-toolssubmit=arch%5B%5D=i386arch%5B%5D=all -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
woody: devpts, pppd, and kernel-2.6: failed connection to /dev/pts/0
Hi, Today I've installed kernel-image-2.6.0 from backports.org on my woody pc. Until now I've always used self-compiled kernels, but decided to change to the kernel-images now. Those have devpts compiled in,while I had that never in my own kernels. Not sure why, but in any case, I never had problems. To use devtps, I added it to /etc/fstab: devpts /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 Reboot worked ok, save for a couple of (hopefully) unrelated warnings. The output of mount looks correct to me: devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620) But, using kernel-image-2.6.0, I lost my internet connection over pppoe. Investigation showed that with my 2.4 kernel without devpts, pppd would establish a connection over /dev/ttyp0: Dec 31 17:38:24 sonic pppd[275]: pppd 2.4.1 started by root, uid 0 Dec 31 17:38:24 sonic pppd[275]: Serial connection established. Dec 31 17:38:24 sonic pppd[275]: using channel 1 Dec 31 17:38:24 sonic pppd[275]: Using interface ppp0 Dec 31 17:38:24 sonic pppd[275]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyp0 Dec 31 17:38:25 sonic pppd[275]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0xf96c480e] Dec 31 17:38:25 sonic pppd[275]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0xf96c480e] [...] Using the kernel-image, pppd tries to use /dev/pts/num, which fails, and leads to a timeout: Dec 31 18:06:34 sonic pppd[447]: pppd 2.4.1 started by root, uid 0 Dec 31 18:06:34 sonic pppd[447]: Serial connection established. Dec 31 18:06:34 sonic pppd[447]: Using interface ppp0 Dec 31 18:06:34 sonic pppd[447]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/pts/0 Dec 31 18:07:05 sonic pppd[447]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests Dec 31 18:07:05 sonic pppd[447]: Connection terminated. All amounts of googling and trying stuff lead to nothing. Unfortunately, after booting 2.6, I lost my mouse with the 2.4 kernel, so now I have to choose between no internet with 2.6 and no mouse with 2.4. Hopefully somebody knows how to fix one of those, preferably the devpts issue :) Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: was wondering
On Tue, 2003-12-30 at 23:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an old kernel 2.2.12 and I was wondering if it is possible to get some source code to recompile the kernel with terminal font color highlighting. I am not sure what to call it but its the font that's typed whenever your at a prompt. A different color for directories and another for executable files exetra... The kernel has _nothing_ to do with this at all, leave it alone. You want to have the terminal font colors set in a config file for your shell, probably /etc/profile Put this in there: # If running interactively, then: if [ $PS1 ]; then # enable color support of ls eval `dircolors -b` alias ls='ls --color=auto' fi (dircolors is a part of the fileutils package). Also nice: red prompt for root, green for users: if [ $SHELL = '/bin/bash' ] || [ $SHELL = '/bin/sh' ] then if [ `id -u` -eq 0 ] then PS1='\[\033[01;[EMAIL PROTECTED]: \[\033[01;34m\]\w \$ \[\033[00m\]' else PS1='\[\033[01;[EMAIL PROTECTED]: \[\033[01;34m\]\w \$ \[\033[00m\]' fi fi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A good book on C Programming?
C: Learning As others have pointed out, KR. Avoid common pitfalls: Summit: C Programming FAQs (Addison Wesley) Van der Linden: Expert C Programming (Prentice Hall) Fun: Feuer: C Puzzle Book (Addison Wesley) As a reference: Harbison/Steel: C - A Reference Manual (Prentice Hall) Algorithms: Sedgewick: Algorithms in C (Addison Wesley); also available ... in C++ C++: Avoid common pitfalls: Meyers: Efficient C++; More Efficient C++ (Addison Wesley) Unix/Linux environment: Stephens: Advanced Programming in the Unix Environment (Addison Wesley) Matthew/Stones: Beginning Linux Programming (Wrox) Johnson/Troan: Linux Application Development (Addison Wesley) Have fun -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get update not working properly 11/21/03
On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 17:41, red wrote: any ideas? http://cert.uni-stuttgart.de/files/fw/debian-security-20031121.txt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cardbus eth0: no route to host after sid upgrade
Hi, after a vacation, I upgraded sid on my laptop. After pulling in 3 week's worth of upgrades, I lost ethernet connectivity, and for the life of me can't figure out what went wrong. Nothing changed in the network's configuration. I have a cardbus ethernet card in my laptop. It is connected to a little hub. The hub's LEDs light up when it is plugged in. The gateway, 192.168.1.1, is connected to a pppoe internet link and is the only other machine currently on the network. The laptop's eth0 is ifup'ped and ifdown'ed by hotplug via a mapping stanza in /etc/networking/interfaces: --- mapping hotplug script /bin/grep map eth0 auto lo iface lo inet loopback iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.1.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 gateway 192.168.1.1 --- The only strange thing I notice is that upon hotplug startup I get: --- Starting hotplug subsystem: input** can't synthesize input events - /proc/bus/input/devices missing pci** can't synthesize pci hotplug events --- This sure looks suspicious to me, since cardbus is managed as a pci device AFAIK. But the interface seems to come up normally, the modules are found, the driver loads. Also, the LEDs on the card connector light up. Since the upgrade, I can't connect to the gateway anymore (neither using the name nor the IP): ssh tells me no route to host, ping returns nothing. route -n on the laptop, 192.168.1.2, gives me --- Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 0 0 eth0 --- To me everything looks ok, I'd appreciate any hints. Regards, Mario -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Incorrect system time
On Mit, 2003-10-08 at 07:40, Oliver Elphick wrote: The only time you want the hardware clock on local time is when you are dual-booting Windows, since Windows runs with local time in the hardware clock. Not anymore. At least XP (not sure about 2000) has a System clock is GMT check box -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gave it a try and will try again ....
On Die, 2003-10-07 at 15:19, Roberto Sanchez wrote: What I have found is even better is to boot Knoppix, and then use it to do a chroot install. FWIW, I just want to add that Knoppix has a script to install it do HD directly -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Microsoft-Fonts
On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 12:29, Uwe Dippel wrote: Sorry, not even. Everything installed (it said so), but the fonts are not (yet ?) available in any application (Galeon, term, Theme Selector). What is necessary to add them to the available fonts ? Hm, should be done automatically. Could you post the fontpath sections of /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 (and font paths in /etc/X11/fs/config if you use that) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mplayer plugin for Galeon
On Son, 2003-10-05 at 22:30, stan wrote: Anyone know where I can get mpalyer plugin (preferable as a .deb) tat will work with Galeon from teestong? See http://marillat.free.fr/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: outlineing program?
On Son, 2003-10-05 at 22:32, stan wrote: I remeber a month or so back playing with a nice (Gnome base I think) outlining program that generated XML files as an output. 'apt-cache search outline' gives me gnome-think -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Microsoft-Fonts
On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 07:06, Uwe Dippel wrote: No understand. Tried Google, but still don't understand. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/repository-howto/repository-howto.html says: This document explains how Debian repositories work, how to create them, and how to add them to the sources.list correctly. But then it doesn't. It does: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/repository-howto/repository-howto.html#using-a-repository What now ? Check that you have these in /etc/apt/sources.list (use you local mirror http://www.debian.org/mirror/list-full) Substitute woody with testing or unstable if you track those). Every deb or deb-src line goes on _one line. This includes the main, non-free and contrib repositories deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ woody main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-non-US/ woody/non-US main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ woody main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-non-US/ woody/non-US main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org woody/updates main contrib non-free Then apt-get update; apt-get install msttcorefonts -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Grafische Benutzeroberfläche
On Fre, 2003-09-26 at 05:11, Carsten wrote: Hallo Debianteam !!! Linux ist für mich eigentlich Neuland, ich habe vorher schon einwenig mit SUSE 8.0 gespielt . Jetzt habe ich von den vorteilen von eurem System gehört . Ich habe mir eure neue Version gekauft und Installiert . Es hört sich vieleicht komisch an, ich komme aber nicht in dem Grafischen Desktop. mit welchen Befehl kann ich denn die Grafische Benutzeroberfläche Starten ? Der Prompt ist da .Leider kann ich dieses aus der Dokumetation nicht rauslesen .Oder habe ich bei der Installation etwas falsch gemacht .Bei Suse kann ich ja zwischen der Grafischen und dem Eingabe Prompt wescheln. Für Eure Bemühungen bedanke ich mich im vorraus mfg Carsten [I'm new to Linux, but have played a bit with SuSE 8.0. I heard of the advantages of Debian and bought your new version. It may sound funny, but I don't have a graphical desktop. With which command do I start it? I have a prompt. Did I do something wrong when installing? With SuSE, I'm able to to switch between prompt and graphical interface. thanks for help] Hi Carsten, this is an English-language mailing list. Please post in English, or use the German-language user list: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-german/ Also, please don't post HTML-messages to Debian lists and use the mailing list archives before posting. Your question comes up regularly and has been answered many times. Debian does not install and configure the X Window System by default. That's why you only have a text console. You should use the tasksel command, which will enable you to install packages based on what you want to do with you system. Select tasks X Window System and Desktop Environment. This will install what you need ad prompt you for configuration. Have the manuals of your monitor (esp. horizontal and vertical frequencies) and of your graphic adapter (exp. chipset and amount of memory) handy, you will have to enter those. When X is configured, you can use kdm, gdm or xdm (the display managers coming with KDE, Gnome and X, respectively) to provide you with a graphical login screen. Alternatively, you can boot into the text console and start X with the startx command manually. If you use the current stable Debian release, code name Woody, you will want to use newer versions of KDE and/or Gnome than come with it. Go to http://www.apt-get.org and search. You'll find non-official backports to woody. Put the deb lines into your /etc/apt/sources.list and upgrade. Read the apt package manager documentation at www.debian.org. Have fun -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Spamassassin Configuration
On Sam, 2003-09-27 at 14:33, Willem-Jan Meijer wrote: Can someone help me cofiguring spamasassin so that I get rid of those ms security-mails? check google and the extensive threads in the archives from the last couple of days/weeks. You are not the only one being hit. Basically, score MICROSOFT_EXECUTABLE 5 in /etc/spamassassin/local.cf or ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs is a working solution that does not involve procmail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SpamAssassin and false-negative spam
On Die, 2003-09-23 at 13:18, Colin Watson wrote: By default, every mail scanned by SA, ham or spam, comes out with an X-Spam-Status: header which lists the score and the triggered tests. Not for me :) Actually, I wanted to ask this for a couple of days (/me being a Swen victim). I run spamd (2.55-3.bunk) on woody. Mail is fetched with fetchmail from my ISP's POP account, and fed to courier-imapd on my machine, where I access it with Evolution. My Evolution filter pipes the mail to spamc -c and on exit code 1 moves it to the Spam folder. This works ok, but I do not get the status inserted into the mail. I've played with /etc/spamassassin/local.cf, adding always_add_headers 1 and always_add_report 1, but to no avail. Using spamassassin -e instead of spamc -c doesn't help either. Any ideas? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Video Card for Woody
On Son, 2003-09-14 at 14:46, Richard Otte wrote: My 550 is working fine, but I'm not completely sure that I'm using the matrox driver or if I'm using the XFree one. I'm running testing (version 4.2.1.6 of xserver-common and xserver-xfree86). In my XF86Config-4 file I have: Section Device Identifier matrox 550 Driver mga EndSection and when I type lsmod I see: mga 103384 1 I know I did install the Matrox driver at one point, assume I'm still using it. Could you let us know exactly how to use the XFree86 driver? What would the XFree86Config-4 file look like for each driver (and do I have to install some other module to use the XFree86 driver)? To use the proprietary driver, simply run install.sh from the mgadrivers tarball you can download at Matrox's site (BTW, there's a Beta 3 available now) and restart X To use the free drivers, simply don't run install.sh :) or if you did, restore them with 'sh install.sh restore'. For the proprietary driver you must add Option HWCursor off to the Device section in XF86Config-4, otherwise you get a big ugly square instead of a mouse pointer. They keep a backup of the free drivers on installation: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ~ $ ls /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/mga* /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/mga_drv.o /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/mga_hal_drv.o /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/mga_drv.o.mgabck.1.0.0 /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/mga_hal_drv.o.mgabck.1.0.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ~ $ If you don't have *mgabck* files, you probably run the free ones. The mga module you see when running lsmod is not the card driver, but the kernel DRM driver (in character devices section of the kernel config). The kernel help says it's only for G200 and G400, but since it gets loaded I assume it works :) Also, were you able to use the Matrox Powerdesk config tool; I was not able to get it working (or to get dvi to work with it). Powerdesk runs only with the proprietary drivers. I don't have much use for it, since I don't do Matrox's version of dualhead. IIRC it's nice to set that up -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Video Card for Woody
On Son, 2003-09-14 at 16:06, Anthony Campbell wrote: However, the Matrox driver produced a bad cursor As I said in other posts, add Option HWCursor off to the Devices section in XF86Config-4. SWCursor makes cursor a bit flickery when the machine is under heavy load though. For single head there#s no advantage AFAICT for the proprietary drivers, but i think they have one for dualhead setups and TV Out or some such and I couldn't see any particular advantage otherwise. I did install the mga_hal driver but I haven't bothered with Powerdesk. AC -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]|| http://www.acampbell.org.uk using Linux GNU/Debian || for book reviews, electronic Windows-free zone || books and skeptical articles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Video Card for Woody
On Sam, 2003-09-13 at 23:54, David Palmer wrote: On Sunday 14 September 2003 00:10, Brian C wrote: Hi, I'm having trouble getting my Matrox G550 working with Debian, because it is not supported in the version of XFree86 that is installed with Woody. I've successfully upgraded XFree86 to unstable but X still barfs when I try to start it. (mga_hal module doesn't exist, etc.) Anyway, that's not really the point, unless someone wants to tell me step-by-step how they got their G550 working. I'm using the X 4.2.1 backport to woody by Adrian bunk: deb http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/debian woody/bunk-1 main contrib non-free deb-src http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/debian woody/bunk-1 main contrib non-free Also included in the Gnome 2.2 backport. I did nothing special at all. It worked out of the box with both the XFree driver and the Matrox-supplied driver. My XF86Config-4 includes this: Section Device Identifier MATROX CARD 1 Driver mga BusID PCI:1:0:0 EndSection If you use the proprietary drivers, be sure to include Option HWCursor off in this section, too. I found that the XFree drivers worked better than Matrox's drivers. I can't see anything Matrox's do better, on the downside they can't use HWCursor and X needs longer to start up. It may be that some stuff I don#t use like Xinerama and TV out are better or only work with them, though. If you use XFree's, you#ll get the message that mga_hal can't load, but this does no harm - it's only needed for Matrox PowerDesk config tool, availabel with their drivers. You can get the Matrox drivers here http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/drivers/latest/home.cfm -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?
On Son, 2003-09-07 at 21:05, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: A lot of banks here in germany allow online banking for linux only with netscape 4. I've never seen one. If it happened to me, I'd take my business elsewhere and made sure they know why. You probably don't even get security fixes fo NS 4 anymore! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?
On Son, 2003-09-07 at 21:46, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: Mine. :-) Hm, where I live in D there's no shortage of banks to choose from. I need only personal stuff though, and obviously don't know you needs :) May I ask which braindead bank this is, so I can avoid them? Uninteresting, since one would use NS4 only with the bank's site. They don't need to hack me. They own everything I have... :-) I wouldn't even trust NS 4's SSL anymore -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which release
On Sam, 2003-09-06 at 05:02, Russell Shaw wrote: If you use a lighter wm such as icewm, then there's no problem at all with testing. I'd recommend that because there's less changing and less chance of system breaks as with unstable. You can install single packages from unstable easily too. No. Testing has _no_ security fixes. Stable has them, and in unstable you mostly get a fix in very quickly. In testing, you may have to wait for weeks until a crucial security fix trickles down from unstable, there are _no_ emergency procedures. Sure you can pull them in from unstable when you have both testing and unstable lines in sources.list, but it's still a hassle -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which release
On Sam, 2003-09-06 at 08:35, Stefan Waidele jun. wrote: Mario Vukelic wrote: [...] Avoid testing!! Testing is for testing /the distribution/ and is quite fd most of the time, as packages trickle in from unstable in a quite random manner. [...] Unstable is ok, it's not so much the packages that are unstable, but the package list changes frequently. That is just contrary from what I have read from various sources. So let's turn to _the_ source: http://www.debian.de/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives#s-testing and http://www.debian.de/releases/ This does not contradict what I meant, only what I said :) Sorry, sloppy use of terminology. I meant: it's not so much the /upstream/ packages that are unstable, as only apps that are considered stable by upstream go into unstable. Apps considered unstable by upstream that are already packaged for testing purposes go into experimental repositories. Case in point: Gnome. Unstable has Gnome 2.2, the currently stable branch of upstream. It has not 2.3.x, the Gnome development branch, even if there's a release candidate. The unstable thing in unstable is the debian packaging (install scripts, additional packages by Debian maintainers to make packages work better in Debian etc.), the teamplay of packages in the big team that is the distribution as a whole, and the list of packages that are part of the distro. The info about testing on the linked sites is the theory and how it should be. It's not how it is. And the fact that there are no quick security fixes for testing coupled with the fact that security-related updates in unstable may need forever to trickle down to testing is a serious drawback -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which release
On Sam, 2003-09-06 at 13:41, Colin Watson wrote: The procedures are in place: there's testing-proposed-updates, which can be used to get critical security fixes autobuilt and into testing. The manpower to make use of this is what's lacking. Ah, good. Still, to the user of testing it makes no difference at this point, esp. if he is a new Debian user -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which release
On Sam, 2003-09-06 at 13:33, Steve Lamb wrote: So don't do an apt-get upgrade. First install apt-listchanges and apt-listbugs. [..] Very good advice, I'd only add to read debian-devel list before upgrading packages. Still, it's a lot of work to do. I ran testing and unstable at some point, but have reverted to stable + backports. It allows me to spend the 1 or 2 computing hours I have per day to do things I'm interested in, instead of managing my distro. OTOH, one does learn a lot about debian by using unstable. To each his own -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to tell apt-get or dpkg to forget about a package?
Reading man dpkg I do not see an option that says: do not try to reinstall the package... I've missed the start of the thread, so excuse me if this isn't what the OP wants, but setting the package to hold should do it, no? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which release
On Fre, 2003-09-05 at 19:53, Joey Harrison wrote: My preference would be to have the most recent packages, but also somewhat tested, so should I use testing? I'v run stable, testing and unstable. In you case, I would start with stable. Most software in Linux is so mature these days that it doesn't really matter if it's all that recent for the most part. Desktop environments (Gnome, KDE) are an exception, but you can get good (unofficial) backports to stable at http://www.apt-get.org You should also consider Libranet, it's a commercial distro based on Debian, with a friendlier installer and more recent packages than stable. Avoid testing!! Testing is for testing /the distribution/ and is quite fd most of the time, as packages trickle in from unstable in a quite random manner. E.g., Gnome in testing is severely broekn, since some packages of 2.2 are in testing, but other important packages are helb ub by bugs. Unstable is ok, it's not so much the packages that are unstable, but the package list changes frequently. It has mostly very recent packages that are considered stable by upstream. However, be prepared that it does impose quite much qork on the admin: config files have to be updated frequently, since every time new package version come in. Also, you should have a working bootdisk and be able to fix a system you can't boot or log into by normal means. It happens very seldom, but it may. You can avoid that by reading the debian-devel mailing list /before/ you do an apt-get update; update upgrade. Problems are reported there very quickly. Have fun -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gcc version?
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 22:10, Lukasz Hejnak wrote: export/setenv CC=gcc-2.95 (select one, export or setenv, depending on your distro) rather, depending on your shell. setenv if you run csh or tcsh, export if you run bash (highly probable) An easier way to set the compiler to s specific version just for one compile is to specify the environment variablw on the command line: CC=gcc-2.95 make install [or whatever the original poster wanted to accomplish] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to connect to the Internet via Gnome?
On Thu, 2003-08-07 at 06:47, Nick Hastings wrote: Setting all this up has _nothing_ to do with gnome, however once you do have it set up you may be able to run pon/poff with some gnome applet or such. To find if such a thing exists do: Right-click on a panel - Add to Panel - Internet - Modem lights. Calls pon and poff on a button click -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: moving menu panel in Gnome 2.2 (on woody)
On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 04:19, Daniel B. wrote: In Gnome 2.2 (the woody backport), can the menu panel be placed other than at the top of the screen? If not, why not? click with middle mouse-button (cursor changes to a cross) and drag. But only top or bottom are possible or make sense. You can add the foot menu to very panel though -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: setting window manager in Gnome 2.2 (on woody)
On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 04:19, Daniel B. wrote: How does one change the window manager in the Gnome 2.2 backport for woody? I couldn't find anything relevant in the Desktop Preferences. You could check the list archives, it's an FAQ. Basically, Gnome people say: Window Manager ist tech-speak and should not be user visible. People who know that the want another wm are capable of setting it in session properties. Go to session properties, look for metacity and set it not to respawn. Then in a terminal, do killall metacity sleep 5 new window manager. Then gnome-session-save -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xfree86 4.3 confusion
On Sun, 2003-07-20 at 20:11, Johannes Graumann wrote: Where can I get the packages? http://www.apt-get.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wandering if you can help me
On Sun, 2003-07-20 at 21:15, 9mm wrote: a freind recemended me to ask you this. i am having problems with my ATI 3D Rage Pro video card and i was just wandering i it is OpenGl compatible. In X 4.3 it's supported as hardware accelerated http://www.xfree86.org/current/Status6.html#6 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Auto load pop3 mail at night ?
On Sun, 2003-07-20 at 22:11, David selby wrote: I need a program to auto load my many pop3 mail accounts (can't get on with IMAP) preferably in the middle of the night. And hopefully grab them from a spool directory via Mozilla 1.3 If I understand you right, you want to download the mail once per night, and deliver it to your local mail spool, from where you want to read it with Mozilla. To do this, you need fetchmail to download the mail and deliver it. fetchmailconf can be used to configure fetchmail, but manual configuration is easy too, for simple setups probably easier than the config program. Fetchmail may be configurable to download at a specific time (I don't know, I have it to dl every couple of minutes), otherwise you can run it from cron. Then point Mozilla mailer to the spool Also I will need a mail transport agent MTA? I checked sendmail apparently this is the alternative MTA. Can anyone tell me what the default Debian MTA is and do I need one if I use Mozilla ? Default is exim. It's a lot easier than sendmail, and runs a config program upon install (or later, IIRC it's eximconfig or some such). You are presented with canned configurations to choose from, such as Local ldelivery only or Use smtp server at ISP for delivery etc. I think you do want an MTA, even if for basic mail usage you don't need one, as Mozilla can use your ISP's smtp server. But you probably want exim to be configured to at least deliver local mail to you, such as may be generated from logcheck or apt-listchanges -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Munich buys Linux
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 08:51, cr wrote: nice reading for any Linux fan It's also old news already. But it reminds me of the great fun I head when I was in Munich 3 weeks ago and my tired eyes (early-morning flight :) marveled at the city being plastered all over by the city council with posters reading Mehr Linux, mehr Freiheit (More Linux, more Freedom) I just wanted to share that -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Munich buys Linux
On Thu, 2003-07-17 at 01:36, Jeremy Brooks wrote: snapshots Shoot me. Since then I wanted to call our office there and ask the guys to make some photos. Never managed to. Hey, thanks for reminding me Bye, I have to write a mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Automount
On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 00:52, Mark Ferlatte wrote: I think you want supermount: http://supermount-ng.sourceforge.net/ It's not integrated into Debian, AFAIK. Con Kolivas' patch set for 2.4.21 includes it http://members.optusnet.com.au/ckolivas/kernel/ . I recommend the patch set generally for its numerous performance patches. No other action than enabling it in the kernel conf and changing fstab was needed -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gnome 2 menus - not the obvious question
On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 06:30, Bijan Soleymani wrote: It seems that you have to logout and log back in for any changes to register (which is rather annoying...). I simply do a killall gnome-panel. As gnome-panel is set to respawn in the sessionmanager, it comes up again immediately -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What's going on with Gnome in testing?
On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 02:12, Ron Johnson wrote: The complete(?) list of applets in gnome-applets 2.2.1 : Battstat CD player Character Palette Command line Drivemount Geyes Keyboard Layout Switcher Modemlights Stock ticker System monitor Volume control Weather report Wireless Uhm, no. You missed Clock Dictionary lookup Fish GnomeICU Inbox Monitor Terminal Server Client Notification area Show Desktop Button Window List Workspace Switcher These are those in Gnome proper. In Garnome, e.g., there are 3rd party applets too -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What's going on with Gnome in testing?
On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 04:49, stan wrote: Hmm, I'm at home now. Given that list I'd be missing: Dictonary lookup CPU load Both there. Don't believe every incomplete list you see :) Slashapp Not there This is a _very_ weak looking list of choices. Is this on purpose? Gnoem 2.x has been out a _long_ time for this to be all that;s avaiable. I'm sure you have ported/coded several applets than? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: installing gnome2 with apt-get problem
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 12:15, Frederick David Bowker wrote: I read the instructions for upgarding gnome2.2 at http://mirror.raw.no/gnome2.2/README.apt You did not thoroughly enough. It says: Xfree86 4.2.1 is required to install these packages, you can get it from: deb http://people.debian.org/~blade/woody/i386 ./ You forgot that, as can be seen in the apt-get output you attached: gnome-core: Depends: acme (= 2.0) but it is not going to be installed [...] Depends: xlibs (= 4.2.0) but 4.1.0-16 is to be installed Depends: xfonts-base (= 4.2.0) but 4.1.0-16 is to be installed [...] So, supposing that dist-upgrade hasn't uninstalled important stuff, you only have to add the deb line for X 4.2.1 to sources.list, then apt-get update apt-get upgrade. Good luck -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Filtering IMAP messages in Evolution
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 19:23, Angel L. Mateo wrote: it seems that evolution doesn't ever run them. Funny, I run courier-imapd, and Evo filters fine as long as only one client accesses the account. When I have evo running on both PCs, it stops filtering -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KERNEL PANIC IN A NOTEBook
[I reply to the list and to you personally. Please note that usually replying personally is considered a violation of Debian mailing list rules, since most people don't want to get mails twice. But you sound newbie enough for me to make sure you get the mail :) ] On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 18:50, Alexandre Passito wrote: Kernel Panic Attempted to kill the idle tesk In interrupt handler-not syncing Maybe this post to the portuguese debian users lists help http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-portuguese/2002/debian-user-portuguese-200203/msg00199.html In general: it seems like a hard to debug problem. Probably either faulty hardware or some combination of faulty driver and specific hardware. If you search for Attempted to kill the idle task (note: task, not tesk) on Google, you'll see that it comes up in a lot of different contexts: faulty RAM, development kernels, lots of different hardware. If I were you, I'd try to install a 2.4.21 kernel and see if it goes away. Maybe some driver has been fixed (and there were lots of fixes in 2.4.21, some of my own pc's problems went away). If not, see if you can find info on your specific laptop model via Google or http://www.linux-laptop.net/ . Also, try to find out which hardware /exactly/ your laptop contains (contact your vendor or something) and try to find out if there's a known problem with a component. And tell the list which hardware you use, maybe someone can help. But these solutions are all hard things to do for a newbie. So maybe your best bet at the moment is to try to find someone near you who has good linux experience (maybe there is a Linux User Group near where you live). Also, you can try to install another Distribution, as most of them have newer software than woody. Try RedHat or Mandrake, or if you want to stay on the Debian path, try Libranet (commercial Debian variant with much newer software) or Knoppix (Debian variant, also with newer software. It runs from CD, so you can try it out without having to erase your current install) Good luck -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to set xdm as default
On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 12:00, Hugh Saunders wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ which xdm /usr/bin/X11/xdm And: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ~ $ ls -l /usr/bin/X11 lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 12 May 25 11:08 /usr/bin/X11 - ../X11R6/bin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ~ $ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: esd and 2 concurrent users on machine?
On Sun, 2003-06-15 at 03:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, this is certainly a dirty hack, but you could always just put esdctl unlock into your default session. Can someone elaborate on this? Applications menu - Desktop Preferences - Advanced - Sessions. Now on the Startup Programs Tab, add 'esdctl unlock'. I set the order # to 60 so that it runs after gnome-session-properties, just to be sure -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to set xdm as default
On Sun, 2003-06-15 at 13:19, Terence Ng wrote: I have viewed /etc/X11/default-display-manager and it shows: /etc/bin/gdm but I do not know how to set, since there is no /etc/bin/xdm such file. If xdm is installed, edit /etc/X11/default-display-manager to read /usr/X11R6/bin/xdm. Maybe this is done automatically if you remove gdm and reinstall xdm -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to set xdm as default
On Sun, 2003-06-15 at 15:45, Terence Ng wrote: I cannot remove gdm by running: dpkg --remove gdm First, you really should use aptitude to install and remove stuff. Try that first. In general, copying the error messages is more likely to generate helpful answers that just saying you cannot :) and I have already installed xdm So, does edit /etc/X11/default-display-manager to read /usr/X11R6/bin/xdm. help? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to set xdm as default
On Sun, 2003-06-15 at 17:42, Hugh Saunders wrote: Its fine to suggest aptitude, its usefull in some situations, but i dont think you can say that people _should_ use it. People can install packages however they like apt-get, dpkg, aptitude, synaptic, wajig, etc. Sure, however, they should really use package managers that take care of depends/suggests and such, and not the low-level tools. aptitude does a great job in solving problems like the one at hand. Manually invoking dpkg should be a last resort -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Low latency patch worth the fuss?
On Sun, 2003-06-15 at 20:08, iwk wrote: Is it really worth the fuss of recompiling the stock (debian) kernel which is working fine? Anyone got any practical experience? I've been running Con Koliva's patch set fo a while. http://members.optusnet.com.au/ckolivas/kernel/ It's already out for 2.4.21 and contains O(1) scheduler, preemptible, low latency, and several other desktop-oriented performance patches. Some feature-adding patches can be downloaded separately. I must say that subjectively the machine feels extremely fast, a lot snappier (it's a P IV 2,4 G with 512 MB) than with the stock kernel. Also my laptop, a AMD K6 550 with 256 MB, feels much better, no jerky mouse anymore. Note that changing the the variable HZ setting (patched in too) to another value than 100 leads to segfaults of older versions of chrony (at least the one in woody, there's a kludge to make newer versions work on chrony's homepage). I'd say it's really worth it, and from my brief encounter with Gentoo I'd suspect that most of Gentoo's perceived speed is because of the kernel (they offer the CK kernel in portage, but as I understand also the stock Gentoo kernel is patched heavily) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Trying to connect a digital cam to my PC
On Sat, 2003-06-14 at 16:45, J.F.Gratton wrote: Olympus D520Z digital cam According to http://www.teaser.fr/~hfiguiere/linux/digicam.html it seems to work fine as a USB Mass storage device. I recently got my casio to work easily, just using these instructions for the 2.4.x kernel http://pubwww.fhzh.ch/~mgloor/casio-exilim.html Maybe you need VFAT or something. The output of modprobe -v would shurely help to diagnose. Regards, M -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
esd and 2 concurrent users on machine?
Hi, I have gdm configured to have 2 login windows on F7 and F8. 2 users are logged in concurrently, both using gnome. User 1, who was the first to log in, has sound via esd - no problem. However, User 2, logging in second, has no access to esd. User 1 must make his instance of esd accessible by a 'esdctl unlock', then User 2's apps can play sounds. I'm pretty sure that can't be right. However, I can't find anything I could, e.g., put into /etc/esound/esd.conf. Thanks, M -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: esd and 2 concurrent users on machine?
On Sat, 2003-06-14 at 20:38, Alex Malinovich wrote: put esdctl unlock into your default session. Thanks for the tip, I didn't think of running it from the session manager myself. But right, what I hoped for is a cleaner solution. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Running GTK Apps in Enlightenment
On Wed, 2003-06-11 at 15:11, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: Actually, xchat *isn't* GTK -- it uses standard X libs, which are typically not all that appealing to look at. No way to theme them, really, without doing a lot of stuff in config files. You must be confusing xchat with some other app. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ~ $ apt-cache show xchat [...] Package: xchat Version: 2.0.1-3woody2 [...] Depends: libatk1.0-0 (= 1.2.2), libc6 (= 2.2.4-4), libglib2.0-0 (= 2.2.1), libgtk2.0-0 (= 2.2.1), libpango1.0-0 (= 1.2.1), libperl5.6 (= 5.6.1-8.2), libssl0.9.6, python2.2 (= 2.1.99), xlibs ( 4.1.0), xchat-common (= 2.0.1-3woody2) [...] Package: xchat Version: 1.8.11-1.bunk [...] Depends: libc6 (= 2.2.4-4), libgdk-pixbuf2 (= 0.17.0-2), libglib1.2 (= 1.2.0), libgtk1.2 (= 1.2.10-4), libperl5.6 (= 5.6.1-7), libssl0.9.6, python2.2 (= 2.1.99), xlibs ( 4.1.0), xchat-common (= 1.8.11-1.bunk), debconf [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ~ $ Also, it's themed nicely here Regards, M -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Evolution UI fonts in Gnome 2 on Woody
On Sat, 2003-06-07 at 06:27, Bret Comstock Waldow wrote:
Is it a legacy Gnome 1.4 setting that's lurking
somewhere?
Something like that. Evo 1.2.4 is still a Gnome 1.4 program, so changes
to Gnome 2 settings don't affect it. Evo 1.4 for G2 should be released
on June 9, and I guess it will be ported to woody rather quickly, so
maybe you shouldn't bother too much.
In any case, here's what you can do:
In ~/.gtkrc add this:
style user-font
{
fontset=-bitstream-bitstream vera
sans-medium-r-normal-*-*-80-*-*-p-*-iso8859-15 [all on one line]
}
widget_class * style user-font
(Get the font name from gtkfontsel).
For availability of the fonts: check the font section of your
/etc/X11/XF86Config-4 (and /etc/X11/fs/config if you use the font
server). Is /usr/share/fonts/truetype listed?
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Re: Evolution UI fonts in Gnome 2 on Woody
On Sat, 2003-06-07 at 14:53, James Strandboge wrote: I do plan to backport evo 1.4. thought so :) Once these issues are worked out, evolution 1.4 will end up in my gnome2.2 backport. You rock! As do your backports - I have them running with awesome stability and zero probs. Thanks! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Setting Mailto handler for galeon/gnome2 in sid
On Mon, 2003-06-02 at 20:09, Neilen wrote: This led me to look in the gnome preferences panel for a mailto handler setting, but I could'nt find it. There seems to be no GUI for it atm, but you can fire up gconf-editor (of use gconftool from the CLI) and add a new key /apps/galeon/handler/programs/mailer of type string with value 'evolution %s' -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gnome does not create windows automatically
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 03:13, Hamid wrote: Well, I use gdm to login to gnome and I guess it is the gnome window manager, right ? The manual placement sounds like twm. Are the window decorations green with white borders? I remember to have read several threads some time ago about this. The debian alternatives system seems to be at fault here. Search the archive for instructions for changing the windowmanager the debian way. You can also try to open a terminal and do this: killall twm sleep 3 metacity then, issue a gnome-session-save to save the session. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: recovering corupted m$ word .doc
On Sun, 2003-06-01 at 18:55, Grzesiek Sedek wrote: Is there any programs that could recover as much as possible from it? If all else fails: 'man strings' - at least you'll get much of the text. You might also want to try antiword or word2x, but I don't know how good those are -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: woody, sarge, or sid?
On Thu, 2003-05-29 at 00:49, Gezim H wrote: I am confused as to what should I use; woody, sarge or sid? I have used all of stable, testnig and unstable at on time or the other. While testing extremely seldom has big problems, it is insecure (no fixes by security team) and you have to watch the lists pretty closely and be prepared to compile new packages from unstable to fix security probs. Also, there is a constant stream of changes, and you are required to make choices (debconf questions or updating config files) very often. Testing atm also has no working Gnome 2.2.x The constant stream of changes-thing also applies to unstable, but in addition, while not often, there /will be/ serious problems. You absolutely must be comfortable to emergency boot and manually fix your system. Also, you must read the important lists before upgrading, to be on the safer side. If you only want a stable system plus newer packages of some apps, I'd recommend to run stable plus various backports. They can be found conveniently through http://www.apt-get.org/ . E.g., search for gnome2 and XFree to find backports of Gnome 2.2.x and XFreee 4.2.1. Backports of cdrdao, mozilla and several others of the packages one typically wants updated for woody are also available -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XDM, Gnome 2.2 normal user startup
On Mon, 2003-03-31 at 16:36, Zeno Davatz wrote: I installed all the necessary packages and Gnome 2.2 runs very smooth when I get it running with 'startx'. When I do the same as normal User Gnome starts but crashes immediately and I land at the XDM Login again. 1.) I can't follow you: You first say that you do startx, but after you crash you are back to the xdm login screen. If you startx, you should be back at the console after crashing. If you have xdm running at terminal 7 (strg+alt+F7), you probably have to call startx like that 'startx -- :1' to stret X at terminal 8 (because xdm is aleady running at terminal 7 2.) If you use Gnome anyway, you are probably better off with gdm instead of xdm I did do dpkg-reconfigure of xservers-common and set the 'startup-security to console users'. same here My log of ~/.xsession-errors (normal user, not root) tells me that the fonts are not installed correctly. I think that the fonts are installed correctly otherwise I could not perfectly do 'startx' as root-user. If you actually had pasted the error, the list would be in a better position to help :) My questions now are: More info needed -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XDM, Gnome 2.2 normal user startup
On Mon, 2003-03-31 at 19:20, Zeno Davatz wrote: If I login at XDM with a normal user it throws me back to the XDM login screen. Ok 2.) If you use Gnome anyway, you are probably better off with gdm instead of xdm Why is that? I find it prettier and easier to configure. Since you use gnome anyway, its dependence on gnome libraries doesn't matter. SESSION_MANAGER=local/dell:/tmp/.ICE-unix/1241 No fonts found; this probably means that the fontconfig library is not correctly configured. You may need to edit the fonts.conf configuration file. More information about fontconfig can be found in the fontconfig(3) manual page and on http://fontconfig.org You can try to reinstall fontconfig 'apt-get --reinstalll install fontconfig libfontconfig1'. If this doesn' help, you can run fc-cache as root. If neither helps: Can you start x other window managers than gnome as user? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: compiling testing for unstable
On Mon, 2003-03-31 at 22:01, David Fokkema wrote: Now I would like to have cdrdao, but that is only available for testing. Of course, I could recompile the whole thing from source and be done with it Or you could use the cdrdao backport for woody at deb http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/debian woody/bunk-1 main contrib non-free deb-src http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/debian woody/bunk-1 main contrib non-free (note there are some other backports in this repository, like XFree 4.2.1) Als always, www.apt-get.org is your friend -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KNOPPIX as an installer for Debian
On Fri, 2003-03-28 at 16:16, Aryan Ameri wrote: What about Libranet? Has anyone tried installing Libranet, and the pointing the repository to Debain's repository and upgrade packages? Do you think it is doable? Done with Libra 2.7, then used woody sources + the important backports. Worked like a charm with no probs at all -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Version 3.2 Wann?
On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 17:03, Klaus Imgrund wrote: I think he is talking about Knoppix.Of course this is the right place for this.It is not released for download yet but you can get it in other places. c't handed out Knoppix 3.2 disks at CeBIT. Don't know about download -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: decrufting system files (e.g. GNOME files)
On Sun, 2003-03-02 at 15:54, Rich Johnson wrote: I have some scripts to short out which files are known to the current Debian configuration apt-cache show cruft debfoster deborphan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: About to go all Deb
On Tue, 2003-02-25 at 16:24, John Anderson wrote: Any way to cut a long story short I have come up with the following, and would appreciate thoughts and guidence. I have long had multiple partitions too, but over time realized it's a waste of space or time on a desktop. On a server it sure is a good thing. I now have /boot 100 MB, / 30 GB (too big, but able to compile mozilla and openoffice.org and enough for a long time :), and /home (for backup/reinstall convenience) 90GB, Swap 1 GB (because it doesn't matter) /boot 20meg Too small if you're into testing lots of different kernel sources, otherwise ok. Would make it 50 though just to be on the save side / 4gig If you have /home, /var, /usr and /tmp on their own partitions, you won't need more than 100 MB for /. I've checked with du -ch: Dir Size for me [MB] /bin5 /dev0 (run devfs, is a virtual fs) /etc14 /lib16 /proc 0, virtual /root 2.8 (config files, should be smaller since most are from X apps) /sbin 4.6 No big dirs. You should also consider making /opt a link to /usr/opt if some package should need it /var 8gig ??? Are you a news server? Generally, /var on its own partition is a hassle, you either waste space most of the time, or run out of space when dist-upgrading the whole distro (downloaded packages go there). I have found 500 MB enough, but even this is too much most of the time. I currently have 131 MB in /var, but I use mailspools in $HOME /tmp 2gig Again a hassle, mostly you waste space, but then there is this odd print job or reallly big image in gimp. Again, why bother? /usr 5gig OK /swap ??? 750meg ram, and from what I have read it should equal the ram up to 256meg Difficult to say. In the beginning of kernel 2.4, the original vm wanted RAM x 2 for swap, but most non-kernel people found out only when the discussions around the different vm implementations and ripping out the old vm boiled up. I was recently able to fill 256 RAM and 500 swap easily when I ran 2 different gnome dev versions complete with memory leaks for 2 users on 2 displays simultaniously. Personally I have settled on the what the heck, disk is cheap approach and now run 512 RAM + 1 GB swap. /home what ever is left I'd say as much as possible without sacrificing proper system function. Isn't running a system about doing stuff as user? (I know, not for everybody, but still) Cheers, M -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Themes
On Tue, 2003-02-25 at 17:07, Sridhar M.A. wrote: 1. There are many themes included for gtk-2.0 How do I use them? Put them into /usr/share/themes or ~/.themes and open Applications Manu - Preferences - Theme 2. art.gnome.org has some nice themes for nautilus. The nautilus docs do not mention where to put them. Where should I unpack the tgz files and instruct nautilus2 to use it? art.gnome.org docs are not clear on this. Nautilus themes where thrown out of nautilus 2.2, the nautilus themes are only for nautilus 1.0.x and 2.0.x. Nautilus 2.2 theming has been integrated with a) gtk-2 themes, and b.) Nautilus' icons use the icon themeing spec from freedesktop.org. art.gnome.org has a section Icons where you find those, put them into /usr/share/icons or ~/.icons and use the same app as in question 1 cheers, M. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: About to go all Deb
On Tue, 2003-02-25 at 17:19, Mario Vukelic wrote: I now have /boot 100 MB, / 30 GB (too big, but able to compile mozilla and openoffice.org and enough for a long time :) Oh, wanted to include that since I don't have extra partitions, of course my 30 GB for / includes space for /usr, /var, /tmp. And although I'm still posting to debian lists, I recently decided to try out gentoo, so I thought I better have /really/ much space for compiling :) And, 180 ¤ will buy me another 200 Gigs in two years, so why bother with saving -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: About to go all Deb
On Tue, 2003-02-25 at 19:15, John Anderson wrote: Well I recently tried out Mondo, and it filed the / partition and killed the machine it was using /tmp, probably due to new stupid user (me) however I don't want that to ever happen again, so will most likely end up with say 2 Cd's worth or 1.5gig I see your point and you are right. However, IIRC, some (all?) filesystems have an option to reserve X MB of space for root, so you won't end up with a completely hosed sstem. Or you could use disk quotas Sounds a reasonable approach, I will need to do a lot more reading before I make a final decision on swap. Or save the time for something worthwhile. Disk is cheap :) The current vm is not so picky about swapspace being twice RAM, or so I read -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel-package gcc configuration etc. (Re: How do I do a sidupgrade and not get the gcc 3.2 stuff?)
On Tue, 2003-02-25 at 22:17, Faheem Mitha wrote: Thanks. Are you sure you don't mean CC? Ooops, sorry, you are right -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anacron vs cron
On Tue, 2003-02-25 at 23:13, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote: Or not as the case may be. On my laptop, it insists that that the laptop is on battery power and won't run. The laptop only runs on AC since the battery won't hold a charge. Have a look in /etc/init.d/anacron: case $1 in start) if test -x /usr/bin/on_ac_power etc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GNOME2 questions
On Sun, 2003-02-23 at 22:21, Johan Ehnberg wrote: 2) Something seems to be very slow with gnome-terminal. Scrolling text in it eats my CPU to 100% and the scrolling is slow. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?product=gnome-terminalversion=2.0.xversion=2.1.xversion=2.2.xbug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=NEWbug_status=ASSIGNEDbug_status=NEEDINFObug_status=REOPENEDbug_status=RESOLVEDbug_status=VERIFIEDbug_status=CLOSEDemail1=emailtype1=substringemailassigned_to1=1email2=emailtype2=substringemailreporter2=1changedin=chfieldfrom=chfieldto=Nowchfieldvalue=short_desc=short_desc_type=substringlong_desc=CPUlong_desc_type=substringbug_file_loc=bug_file_loc_type=substringstatus_whiteboard=status_whiteboard_type=substringkeywords=keywords_type=anywordsop_sys_details=op_sys_details_type=substringversion_details=version_details_type=substringcmdtype=doitorder=%27Importance%27form_name=query 3) I can't find advanced control panel functions like remember window palcement and so on. I hate it when I have to maximize mozilla every time. As far as remember, metacity doesn't do that because that's the apps' responsibility and metacity won't cover up broken apps. Sawfish does it, have a look at Appplications menu - Preferences - Advanced - Sawfish -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel-package gcc configuration etc. (Re: How do I do a sidupgrade and not get the gcc 3.2 stuff?)
On Mon, 2003-02-24 at 21:03, Faheem Mitha wrote: So, you can still compile kernels with it, though I agree that there might be some problems if everything insists on calling gcc. Set the env variable then Hmm. Does anyone know if it is currently possible to configure what version of gcc to use with kernel-package? I just use [EMAIL PROTECTED]: /usr/src/linux # GCC=gcc-2.95 make-kpkg yada yada -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting rid of Gnome 1.4 stuff
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 05:49, Hall Stevenson wrote: I KNOW there's lots of Gnome 1.4.x stuff leftover. Any idea how to either clean out the old stuff ?? I thought an apt-get upgrade would do it, but it didn't... (you use sid, right? Because that's the only one that actually carries Gnome 2) apps for which a Gnome 2 successor exists should be upgraded by apt. The others (evolution, galeon, to name only the most important ones) I'd think you don't want removed (and neither their libs), because you will want to still use them. There are lots of Gnome 2 packages that won't be installed by 'apt-get install gnome'. You may want to apt-get search or have a look at the archives of the debian gtk-gnome mailing list. Regards, M. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: chrony (was: Speaking of ntp, yes CD-R does mess with theclock!)
On Sat, 2002-12-28 at 19:57, John Hasler wrote: Bill Moseley writes: So the confusing thing is the startup scripts. /etc/rc2.d/S14ppp runs before /etc/rc2.d/S83chrony. For some reason it all works now, but it looks like it's possible that the ppp connection could come up before the S83chrony script runs which means that /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/chrony could try to online chrony before chrony is running and listening for commands. Again, it seems like it works now, but it looks like a potential problem if the ppp connection comes up fast. Is this true, or have I missed something in the ppp setup that makes sure it waits long enough for startup to complete before bringing up the connection? That's a bug. Please file a bug report. I believe this is what I get here (and still have, though it doesn't seem to do any harm) http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/debian-user-200207/msg01290.html (note that the mentiond switching of ISPs included switching the external IF from eth0 to pppoe, which I had forgotten to mention in this mail) and here http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/debian-user-200207/msg02241.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia-kernel-src: package generation fails in strange way
On Fri, 2002-12-06 at 18:54, Mario Vukelic wrote: /usr/bin/make -C /usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel-1.0.3123/NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-3123 SYSINCLUDE=/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.19/include NVdriver /bin/sh: - : invalid option For the record: My CC environment variable is set to gcc-3.2 When I did a simple 'make-kpkg modules_image', it wouldn't run because of gcc mismatch (I guess make-kpkg compiles with 2.95.4 regardless). Therefore I ran 'CC= make-kpkg modules_image' which lead to the error described in my original mail. Doing a 'unset CC; make-kpkg modules_image' fixed it. I don't claim to understand, but it works -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
