Re: Todays apt-get upgrade broke my subversion
* Lukas Ruf [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-08-04 18:34:11 +0200]: As I wrote: I run update/upgrade daily. Therefore, subversion was not affected today. It must rather deal with Berkeley DB or similar. This is somewhat off-topic wrt your post, but I have found from personal experience that 99.997% of my Subversion problems in the past had to do with Berkeley DB. If you've not tried it already, may I suggest using Subversion's FSFS repository? It implements a Subversion filesystem using the OS filesystem instead of Berkeley DB (hence the name). It will be out in Subversion 1.1 which, AFAICT, is due at the end of the month, but you can try it in 1.1rc1 which is out already (and 1.1.rc2 should be out within a week or so) -- and works great. More info here: http://web.mit.edu/ghudson/info/fsfs Thomas -- N. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Etiamsi occiderit me, in ipso sperabo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Crontab last days of the month..
* s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-04-14 09:58:38 -0600]: Another way is to run it every day, but have the script figure out if it's the last day of the month, and exit if not. Or even better: run it on the 28th-31st day of each calendar month and then have the script figure out if it's the last day. (Days 1-27 will never be last day of the month.) But, depending on what the OP needed it for, a minute or two after the midnight on the first of the month might also work. Thomas -- N. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Etiamsi occiderit me, in ipso sperabo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Caps lock problem
* Slaanesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-12 00:00:31 +0100]: In the Microsoft Windows world, one has to use the shift key to disable the caps lock mode I'm writing this on a Windows 2000 box, and I have to hit caps lock again to disable it. What version of Windows has this functionality? Thomas -- N. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Etiamsi occiderit me, in ipso sperabo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ntpd; local clock reference 127.127.1.0
[ quotes are not in chronological order ] * Brenda J. Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-12-31 18:43:19 -0500]: Another question: If I do get this to work, will the ntpd on seal continue to correct the time even when the outside link is down and the local clock is being used as reference? Yes, if you put something like the following: server 127.127.1.0 # local clock fudge 127.127.1.0 stratum 10 into your ntp.conf file, it will treat the local clock as a reference clock -- albeit with an artificially bad stratum level. When your link is up, the time servers that seal connects to will have much higher stratum numbers (usually =4), so the local clock will be effectively ignored, but when the link is down, your local clock will be used as a reference clock -- since it will be the only time server available. After ntp has been running properly for a while, it will figure out your clock's drift (i.e. how bad it is at keeping time), and so if your net connection does go down, it can keep fairly accurate time on its own using the drift value. [ I didn't see your original email so I am going to reply to it here. ] I have a dial-up system that is going to be a server for my home network. I want my inside machines to sync to seal (the ss20) and seal to sync to outside machines when the link is up, and to just provide time to the inside machines when the link is down. Yes, this is how most people should have their network set up. Configure ntp on seal to something like this: server ntp.time0.com server ntp.time1.com server ntp.time2.com and all the other machines should be configured like this: server seal.yourdomain.net See the ntp pages for more detailed info. thomas -- N. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Etiamsi occiderit me, in ipso sperabo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ntpdate from cron -- DON'T DO THAT!
* Sonny Kupka [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-12-21 10:46:12 -0600]: I have ntpdate installed on woody.. and it's not automagically keeping my system in sync.. Contrary to what you may have heard, ntpdate does not keep your system clock synced. Also ignore the foolish recommendations to run ntpdate from a cron job. ntpdate works like date(1), but it sets your clock's time to that of an ntp server (or servers) instead of having it specified by you. If you want to keep your clock in sync use ntpd -- that's what it was designed for. It uses many sophisticated algorithms and statistical methods to accomplish this. After some time, it can even figure out how bad your system clock is (i.e. its drift) and compensate for it, even if your network connection goes out. Unfortunately, some people, instead of taking the time to read the ntp documentation and writing a proper ntp.conf file, took the easy route and started running ntpdate from cron. This caused two problems, firstly it did not keep very good time: immediately after you called ntpdate, your clock would begin to drift again. And more importantly, every hour or so, the ntp servers were being affected by a thunderclap effect, the result of everybody putting: 0 * * * * /usr/local/bin/ntpdate or something similar into their crontab files. The ntp daemon does not do this as it randomizes the time it waits between queries. For this reason, Dr. Mills (ntp author) has deprecated ntpdate, and indeed, he will be removing it completely from a future release. hth, thomas -- N. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Etiamsi occiderit me, in ipso sperabo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ntpdate from cron -- DON'T DO THAT!
* nate [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-12-21 16:15:35 -0800]: N. Thomas said: Contrary to what you may have heard, ntpdate does not keep your system clock synced. it can, and does I've been using it for ages. I do not like to run ntpd on everything[1]. The less daemons listening on ports the better for me. ntpd is more accurate then ntpdate, but doing a ntpdate timeserver; hwclock --systohc works fine for me. In this case, ntpdate is not doing the syncing, you are doing it manually with your cron job and hwclock call. Why don't you just run ntpd on the one machine that talks to the higher stratum servers and use ntpdate for your internal network? I haven't looked into it a whole lot since ntpdate works good enough for me, but I don't recall seeing such an option. Yes it works for you, but think about the admin running the time servers that your box connects to. Would this solution be acceptable to them? Can you imagine 100 if people did the same thing? Unless you are paying whoever runs the time server, or you both are part of the same organization, then they are providing you with a public service, and the least you can do is be kind and help reduce the load on their servers. thomas -- N. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Etiamsi occiderit me, in ipso sperabo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ntpdate from cron -- DON'T DO THAT!
* Lance Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-12-21 19:16:56 -0600]: On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 07:28:20PM -0500, N. Thomas wrote: Why don't you just run ntpd on the one machine that talks to the higher stratum servers and use ntpdate for your internal network? Won't that still be bad for the machines on the internal network? Their clocks will regularly be reset. Correct, but in this case, it is a decision made by the admin that affects only the machines on his network and no one else. (For the most part.) Personally, I don't like how he has ntp setup either, but to be fair to Nate, he did mention that he had some port issues with ntp which caused him to go this way. thomas -- N. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Etiamsi occiderit me, in ipso sperabo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: This is incorrect advice (Re: ntpdate from cron -- DON'T DO THAT!)
* Kirk Strauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-12-21 19:56:20 -0600]: Contrary to what you may have heard, ntpdate does not keep your system clock synced. In fact, you can *force* ntpdate to slew the clock rate to achieve accuracy rather than stepping it; see the '-B' option. Yes, but this only happens once. Regardless of whether ntpdate slews or steps the clock, it does not synchronize it. You can only sync with ntpdate by running it regularly, i.e. putting it in cron. Of course, running ntpdate -B in cron is recommended over just plain ntpdate, but as in my original posting, and as you mentioned in the second half of your email, ntp is superior to both. thomas -- N. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Etiamsi occiderit me, in ipso sperabo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Why /etc?
* hiranokazunari [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-12-14 11:44:42 +0900]: But I am wondering why the host-specific configuration partition is called /etc? [...] It really was the stuff that doesn't go anywhere else directory, hence the name /etc. At least I assume that's how the name was devised. I should have learnt from the history. Now I can read /etc as etcetera from the bottom of my heart. Note that etc directory in Unix is pronounced ett-see, it rhymes with the proper name Betsy. It probably can't hurt to think of it like that either. thomas -- N. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Etiamsi occiderit me, in ipso sperabo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: firewall problems !!
* Richard Kimber [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-12-01 15:04:29 +]: Can anyone tell me of an idiots firewall ? One even I can set up ? Setting up a firewall without knowing what it exactly does is dangerous. You should consider learning how to write your own firewall rules IMO. [...] Writing firewall rules takes a lot of learning, and creating a firewall is (for many people with simple requirements) just a one-off task that makes all the learning not a very cost effective way of spending time. Richard, I vehemently disagree. If simply pointing and clicking results in setting up something as critical as a firewall system (even something as small as a personal firewall), then you should have *some* understanding of what is going on. If you don't, you need to learn. Granted, there is no need to go into design, implementation details, etc., but giving such advice as you did above is probably not a good idea for people new to the whole thing, as it lulls them into a false sense of security. thomas -- N. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Etiamsi occiderit me, in ipso sperabo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: manual for vim
* Sandip P Deshmukh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-11-19 17:17:14 +0530]: i have recently shifted to vim and will like to have with me some good manual of vim with me. preferably single file, text format (like mutt manual). something that is exhaustive. so that i can look it up before i post a query on mailing list. Others have mentioned Vim's excellent online help system. This should be your first line of defense if you need assistance. Your second option, if you don't find what you are looking for above, should be the Usenet newsgroup comp.editors. There are many resident Vim afficionados who post regularly to that group. Use a good search interface like Google Groups, and you will find answers to 99% of your questions. Good luck. thomas -- N. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Etiamsi occiderit me, in ipso sperabo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
funky network slowdown
Our network: a DSL modem that feeds into an OpenBSD box that does firewall/nat; the OpenBSD box feeds into a switch; and the switch is hooked up to three computers: a Debian, Red Hat, and Windows 2000 box. Here is roughly what it looks like: [Debian] / [Internet] - [OpenBSD] - |switch|- [Win2k] \ [RedHat] Okay, so I was getting some funky speeds between the Debian and RedHat boxes, so I tested it. I took a large file transfered it between the different machines. Here is the result: Internet - OpenBSD = 64Kbs Internet - RedHat = 64Kbs Internet - Windows = 64Kbs Internet - Debian = 64Kbs OpenBSD - Windows = 1Mbs OpenBSD - RedHat = 1Mbs RedHat - Windows = 1Mbs Debian - OpenBSD = 1Mbs Debian - RedHat = 200Kbs ??? Debian - Windows = 200Kbs ??? A couple of things to note: - every machine on the LAN gets 64Kbs to the outside world, that is the cap on my DSL modem; this is fine - apart from the Debian box, when any machine on the network is talking to any other machine on the LAN, the speed is about 1Mbs. This too is fine. Now for the weird part: - the Debian box gets 1Mbs when talking to the OpenBSD box, but only 200Kbs when talking to the Windows or RedHat box. What gives? Normally, I would think something is wrong with the NIC on the Debian box, but it talks to the OpenBSD box fine. Can anyone explain this anomaly? I have tried the following to no avail: - hooking up the machines to different ports on the switch - making sure the network cables aren't running parallel and causing interference - checking the NICs, each NIC that touches the switch is set to full duplex, and the one card on the OpenBSD box that talks to the DSL modem is half duplex Any other suggestions? thanks, thomas -- N. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Etiamsi occiderit me, in ipso sperabo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: funky network slowdown
* Edward Guldemond [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-11-09 14:57:26 -0500]: On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 09:45:36AM -0500, N. Thomas wrote: Debian - RedHat = 200Kbs ??? Debian - Windows = 200Kbs ??? Maybe it's not the Debian box that is misconfigured, maybe it's the RedHat or Windows boxen? Are there any weird messages in the Linux syslogs, or the Windows log viewer? What NICs are you using on the machines? Actually, apart from a CD burner on the Redhat box, it and the Debian machines are identical. The NICS are built into the motherboard, the company is called SiS. The RedHat/Windows logs revealed nothing, but I found this nugget in /var/log/syslog of the Debian box: Nov 9 12:54:39 seneca kernel: sis900.c: v1.06.09 09/28/2001 Nov 9 12:54:39 seneca kernel: eth0: SiS 900 PCI Fast Ethernet at 0xcc00, IRQ 5, 00:0a:e6:12:e3:cd. Nov 9 12:54:39 seneca kernel: eth0: Unknown PHY transceiver found at address 1. Nov 9 12:54:39 seneca kernel: eth0: Using transceiver found at address 1 as default What does it mean? I saw it upon bootup as well. One thing I would suggest is to try a different hub. I doubt it's the hub though... I'm using a switch, and swapping ports doesn't seem to change anything. Still, I might end up having to return it to the store if the problem persists. =-( thomas -- N. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Etiamsi occiderit me, in ipso sperabo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: funky network slowdown
* Edward Guldemond [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-11-09 17:22:50 -0500]: On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 04:27:27PM -0500, N. Thomas wrote: Nov 9 12:54:39 seneca kernel: sis900.c: v1.06.09 09/28/2001 Nov 9 12:54:39 seneca kernel: eth0: SiS 900 PCI Fast Ethernet at 0xcc00, IRQ 5, 00:0a:e6:12:e3:cd. Nov 9 12:54:39 seneca kernel: eth0: Unknown PHY transceiver found at address 1. Nov 9 12:54:39 seneca kernel: eth0: Using transceiver found at address 1 as default It just means that the driver was confused about that it was supposed to find on the chip. It found what it needed though, so it looks like everything is fine here. A question though: Does this appear when you start transferring the file, or only at bootup? It's only at bootup, so I'm guessing it is not a big deal. I'm using a switch, and swapping ports doesn't seem to change anything. Still, I might end up having to return it to the store if the problem persists. I meant to say switch instead of hub, but here's one more thing to try when diagnosing the problem. Try connecting the machines with crossover cables. You might not get full-duplex, but see if the numbers go up at all. This was going to be my next step. Unfortunately I don't have a crossover cable lying around, so I'm going to have to go buy one. thomas -- N. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Etiamsi occiderit me, in ipso sperabo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bc
* Oleg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-31 08:37:00 -0500]: 6.2/0.3 20 By now, many others have set you straight about the scale variable. I just wanted to let you know that invocated bc with the -l switch will set the scale to 20, and load some math functions as well. Unless you have a good reason not to, always call bc with that switch enabled. thomas -- N. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Etiamsi occiderit me, in ipso sperabo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: any suggestions on mail client?
* Sandip P Deshmukh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-30 13:07:51 +0530]: after shifting from windows to linux, i am trying to see which mail program can i use. Mutt (along with procmail) can do all of the things you describes. However, I am bit confused about address completion: have facility of address completion: so when i start typing 'sandip' - the real name, it picks up corresponding e-mail address I'm almost certain you are describing aliases, but could you elaborate on this functionality to be sure? have some automation built in: messages from a particular sender go to a particular folder, etc is it better to separate this function from mail reader and use, say, procmail instead? Yes. Separating mail into different folders should almost always be handled at the MDA level. have ability of address books with custom fields and ability to import csv format address books Not directliy, you can whip up a quick script to to do this. is it better to seperate address book from mail program? If you have a good reason to do so. Some people have a common file from which they generate address books for their mail client, PDA, etc. -- N. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Etiamsi occiderit me, in ipso sperabo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: any suggestions on mail client?
* Kevin Coyner [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-30 06:16:03 -0500]: have facility to have folders: i will like to keep business, personal mails in different folders Mutt can do this. is there a mailing list specifically for mutt? See http://mutt.org/ but the main mail group that has a lot of activity (not as much as this one though) and where you can get good answers to Mutt questions is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Also check out comp.mail.mutt, there are some helpful people that hang out on that newsgroup. Another good resource if you are new to mutt is Sven Guckes' mutt pages: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/mutt/ -- N. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Etiamsi occiderit me, in ipso sperabo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: any suggestions on mail client?
* sandip [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-30 14:13:20 +0530]: Mutt (along with procmail) can do all of the things you describes. However, I am bit confused about address completion: have facility of address completion: so when i start typing 'sandip' - the real name, it picks up corresponding e-mail address lets say, i have an entry that says sandip as real name and deshmukh at someserver dot com as e-mail adderss. and there are no other entries that begin with san. now, when i begin typing sandip, as i type character after character, it keeps offering me choices. bash does it wrt file names. I don't think that mutt has readline-like capabilities, but aliases work just as well for this purpose. have ability of address books with custom fields and ability to import csv format address books Not directly, you can whip up a quick script to to do this. well beyond my abilities! still a newbie! :( You can look around, someone might have done it already. Even better, Python/Perl or Zsh/Bash programming is not that difficult to learn, and now would be a perfect time to do so. hth, thomas -- N. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Etiamsi occiderit me, in ipso sperabo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: shutdown or reboot from gdm
* Paul Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-30 00:12:43 -0500]: I'm running woody and have gnome installed, and everything seems to be working fairly well, except that there's no shutdown or reboot option available from the desktop. As another poster mentioned, you can edit gdm.conf (the preferred method). Another way to do this is to run gdmconfig(1) as root, and enable the option Show System Menu (or something similar), it is under the Login Behavior tab in the Basic section of that utility. thomas -- N. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Etiamsi occiderit me, in ipso sperabo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Whats happened to Arch web site
* Alan Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-26 20:53:03 +0100]: Although debian unstable has a version 1.0pre16, it is dated May 2002 and all attempts to find Arch's home on the net seem to fail http://www.regexps.com seems to be broken. Still alive, I use it. http://www.fifthvision.net/open/bin/view/Arch/WebHome Anyone know why its moved there? - the comments on this site are very cryptic I believe the original author, Tom Lord, ran out of funding -- which is a shame, Arch was one tool that I would have really like to have seen come to fruition. If you are interested in next generation version control systems, do take a look at Subversion (first hit on Google), they are nearing a 1.0 release soon. thomas -- N. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Etiamsi occiderit me, in ipso sperabo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mutt+Maildir Pros Cons?
* Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-21 14:36:22 -0700]: Also, if I want to migrate to a maildir setup -advice on doing it safely? Mutt can handle different folders of different types, so you can legally have =foo1 (mbox), =foo2 (maildir), =foo3 (mh), etc. Here is a method to convert folders by hand: 1. create a maildir folder 2. open mutt and go into the mbox folder 3. tag all the messages 4. copy all the messages (C) to the maildir folder Mutt will then do the conversion for you. -I gather that most muttrc commands that reference mboxes with work fine if I replace the mbox files with maildirs with the same names. Yup, everything except the folder-type specific commands (i.e. maildir_trash). -- N. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Etiamsi occiderit me, in ipso sperabo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Maildir performance mutt
* Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com [2002-04-12 00:25:00 -0700]: I've switched to maildir, um, well, I forget why. With 1000+ messages (and 5000+ is pretty easily attainable), performance on opening a folder sucks. Is there any way to speed this up? There was a thread about this recently on mutt-users. Here is good explanation of the available solutions from Thomas Hurst: Maildir is slower at being opened; the simple act of opening a file, scanning the first few bytes, then closing it 3500 times is always going to be slower than simply opening one file and seeking through it, unless your filesystem is really incredibly good at organising it to minimise seeking and give a miniscule overhead to the extra syscalls. That's without mentioning having to take directory listings of two directories beforehand. The solutions are: 1. Switch to mbox and trade off individual mail modification speed and corruption resistance for initial opening speed. 2. Use a maildir caching patch to limit scanning of new messages to operations on a dbm. 3. Make use of the low cost of moving messages from the start of the maildir to archive old messages. Leave your working folder as maildir with a maximum of a couple of days mails and keep mbox archives or so. 4. Find a filesystem which keeps lots of small files in the same dir consolidated together with the metainformation it needs to find them to cut down seeks and small reads. 5. Get tonnes of memory and try to keep as much as possible of it cached. On FreeBSD this tends to cut opening time to about 10% slower than mbox. Some people use solution #2, Michael Elkins' header caching patch for maildir: http://www.cs.hmc.edu/~me/mutt/ and they have been very satisfied with the results. I believe you need to patch it against the cvs development branch of Mutt, so if you are against that sort of thing, just wait till it gets merged in and released, but I don't know how long that will take. -- N. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Etiamsi occiderit me, in ipso sperabo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Someone tell me the secret of mutt
* Jeffrey W. Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-11 18:55:27 -0700]: Ximian Evolution really is a foul pig of an MUA. I love pine, but it is slow and featureless. I want to try mutt. The problem is, I can't figure out in 10 minutes how to do the most basic things with mutt: You really want to read the mutt newsgroup and/or join the mutt mailing lists. The Mutt Handbook would also be a great place to start. -- N. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Etiamsi occiderit me, in ipso sperabo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
bootdisk problem
Trying to install Debian 2.1 on a friend's Dell Optiflex 486-66. I was booting off the bootdisk and when the initial message and the boot: prompt comes up, I hit enter, and it loads the root.bin, prints 4 periods, and then hangs, like this: loading root.bin I tried all the boot images, resc-1440, resc-1440-safe, resc-1440-tecra, resc-1440-safetecra, and they all have this problem. To be sure it wasn't the hardware, I tried booting off a RedHat 6 bootdisk, and that worked fine. If it is a hardware conflict, what switches could I pass to the boot disk to fix this? Anybody know what could be wrong? thanks, noble -- N. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
can't read Creative Labs cdrom
I'm trying to put Debian 2.1 on my old 486 box. I have the boot disk made, but when it asks me to select the installation media, it won't recognize my cdrom. I have an old Creative Labs SoundBlaster CDROM (the kind where the drive is hooked up to the sb card), and I know it should use the sbpcd driver (RedHat uses it), but I don't know how I should go about making Debian recognize it. Any suggestions? noble -- N. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
