Re: pidgin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daniel Dalton wrote: Hello, It looks like what I want, however, I am vission impaired, and unfortunately tk (is that what the tool kit is called I'm not a programmer), won't support braille. I ended up getting my issue sorted out, but thanks for the suggestion, perhaps one day when it is accessible I might give it ago. Have a good one Daniel On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 03:14:06PM -0800, Angus Auld wrote: I used to use pidgin, when it was called gaim, but I have since started using aMSN. I am uncertain as to whether pidgin has off-line messaging support, but I do know that aMSN does. It is a very feature rich program, and it works well. It is only MSN capable however, so if you need the other protocols that pidgin supports, aMSN won't fit your bill. Kopete is also a nice program (if you use KDE), but is not off-line message capable to my knowledge. Regards. -- Angus All churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Muslim, appear to me no other than human inventions, setup to terrify and enslave mankind - and to monopolize power and profit. -- Thomas Paine (1737-1809) ##Laptop powered by Linux## ##Reg. Linux User #278931## --- On Sun, 12/14/08, Frank Lanitz fr...@frank.uvena.de wrote: From: Frank Lanitz fr...@frank.uvena.de Subject: Re: pidgin To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Sunday, December 14, 2008, 9:45 PM Hi Daniel, On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:18:49 +1100 Daniel Dalton d.dal...@iinet.net.au wrote: Can someone please tell me how to enable msn offline messages support in pidgin. So I can read my msn offline messages in pidgin? What version of pidgin do I need, and what is the best way to get this version on debian? is there anything else I must do on debian to enable offline messages? I tried the pidgin support list, but didn't get much help. I guess you should be a bit more patient and wait for a proper answer at pidgin mailing list. From my best knowledge, Pidgin is not supporting sending offline message for MSN in current status (but maybe I'm wrong). But there will be no better information than on their list ... in special when you are building your own binary as you mentioned over there ;) Cheers, Frank aMSN is now using ETK as far as I know. Rich Healey - iTReign \.''`. / healey.r...@gmail.com Developer / Systems Admin \ : :' : /healey.r...@itreign.com AIM: richohealey33 \ `. `' / ri...@psych0tik.net MSN: bitchohea...@hotmail.com \ `- / richohea...@hellboundhackers.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAklF4NMACgkQLeTfO4yBSAfR2gCgzzOK1kBjbWhVq6qr2WarSy0J KUAAoJZppnOeRwvDz3RiWISGufWMSRS3 =SJ24 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: I get too many emails
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 PRHarris wrote: Since joining your discussion group, I have been deluged with emails. Please remove me from your membership files. prharris [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] thank you Patrick Harris I subscribe to a lot of lists with all of my addresses, I use a combination of Gmail's filtering and procmail on the addresses managed on my servers. Because I use IMAP I don't see all the list traffic unless I look at it. Rich - -- Rich Healey - iTReign \.''`. / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developer / Systems Admin \ : :' : /[EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: richohealey33 \ `. `' / [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ `- / [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkkHr8oACgkQLeTfO4yBSAcQyACg0FeR/lW9LEPrj4DPWIIqa8JR A1MAmQE/IKqlg7S8PriK5S7rIBEtzM9R =Dvol -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: You are a broken record (was Re: friend cannot see me on msn)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve Lamb wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: Ron, if you can't be nice, please leave the Debian lists. You've been nothing but obnoxious in every reply to one of my messages for months now. It's not appreciated, nor welcome, here. Funny, Paul, people have been thinking the same of you for several years. joke It's gotta be the last name /joke Settle guys, it's a valid point that using XMPP transports is a PITA. I still use msn, if people want to talk to me in a free open fashion, email / XMPP is available to them. If they want it to be easy (especially from windows, msn is standard, i believe) they're free to. Rich - -- Rich Healey - iTReign \.''`. / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developer / Systems Admin \ : :' : /[EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: richohealey33 \ `. `' / [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ `- / [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkkAKBAACgkQLeTfO4yBSAfB1gCfc24v+Yc4XsvYdXEjPf2PuzS1 Rn4An3qP3J2PiVVrzmK0vfOPIm+mbeBy =kySV -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cannot install all updates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 JoeHill wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 10/22/08 23:34, JoeHill wrote: JoeHill wrote: Question is, is there some way to find out more info on what packages are preventing HAL from being installed? Or _is_ that the question...? Not sure. ...forgot to mention, I did run the 'smart upgrade', but I did not see what the 'proposed removals' were, which is why I'm concerned. This is why I never use synaptics, but stick with apt-get, the tool that God Intended Us To Use. Besides, it will explicitly tell you what the problem packages are. node1:/home/joehill# apt-get upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following packages have been kept back: hal The following packages will be upgraded: djvulibre-desktop libapr1 libaudio-dev libaudio2 libdjvulibre21 libenchant1c2a libhal-dev libhal-storage1 libhal1 libmono-cairo1.0-cil libmono-corlib1.0-cil libmono-corlib2.0-cil libmono-data-tds1.0-cil libmono-data-tds2.0-cil libmono-i18n1.0-cil libmono-i18n2.0-cil libmono-security1.0-cil libmono-security2.0-cil libmono-sharpzip0.84-cil libmono-sharpzip2.84-cil libmono-sqlite2.0-cil libmono-system-data1.0-cil libmono-system-data2.0-cil libmono-system-web1.0-cil libmono-system-web2.0-cil libmono-system1.0-cil libmono-system2.0-cil libmono0 libmono1.0-cil libmono2.0-cil libpci3 libperl5.10 libpq5 mono-common mono-gac mono-jit mono-runtime pciutils perl perl-base perl-doc perl-modules screenlets tzdata 44 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. I'll accept that you're right about apt-get in general, but it's still not telling me why hal is being held back. I didn't see anything in the manpage to give me more verbose information. I'm not saying it's not there, just that I didn't see it ;) I think you'll find apt-get dist-upgrade (or full-upgrade, aptitude changed as of lenny, i dunno what apt-get is doing) Will give you the info you're looking for, basically upgrade will do minor updates, security fixes, {dist,full}-upgrade will upgrade completely, potentially breaking everything. - -- Rich Healey - iTReign \.''`. / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developer / Systems Admin \ : :' : /[EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: richohealey33 \ `. `' / [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ `- / [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkkAcp0ACgkQLeTfO4yBSAdLIgCguzTbueIZsd3N5Ke3UkC1SIGg k6cAnjTf0HWTqPduMSYTUUzu7BgkRwHE =6XcP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian on MacBook
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Koh Choon Lin wrote: Anyone has any luck with gNS on MacBook, single boot? Some time ago, there exists a problem with this configuration -- waiting a minute during booting while it searches for the boot record, and I wonder if this was solved now so I can procure one during Christmas. Please don't get me wrong, but this is a mailing list for *Debian* users. Though there is a (small) chance somebody is running gNS (gNewSense?) you would probably get more and better answers in their mailing lists/forums. Ops sorry, made a mistake. I meant running Debian on a MacBook. :) I ran Debian testing (Lenny) single boot for some time on my MBP without issue. Rich - -- Rich Healey - iTReign \.''`. / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developer / Systems Admin \ : :' : /[EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: richohealey33 \ `. `' / [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ `- / [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkj9NYIACgkQLeTfO4yBSAd07gCgmNi2J3viweXK7pPhC4ObtUqk wl0An05vgcpED2pk4fL5Z4LT3OPZDGkR =B0gv -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to check a cd-rom?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrei Popescu wrote: On Fri,17.Oct.08, 18:06:54, Dexter Filmore wrote: snip That doesn't quite work out: mount /cdrom /Fri Oct 17-06:14:44HDC5# md5sum /cdrom md5sum: /cdrom: Is a directory Isn't /cdrom a symlink to /dev/cdrom...? $ ls -l /cdrom lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 2008-07-11 00:40 /cdrom - media/cdrom Maybe give it the real device path rahther. He did try that... Regards, Andrei media/cdrom is a mount point. /dev/cdrom is a device node. Regards Rich Healey - -- Rich Healey - iTReign \.''`. / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developer / Systems Admin \ : :' : /[EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: richohealey33 \ `. `' / [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ `- / [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkj5PzYACgkQLeTfO4yBSAcEkQCg0c5k3ZKUCql2kCGeSjRX7B3i CvwAn2QbFZ1z3isNPK1EwUJUEYAY62H/ =Ulpr -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why not thunderbird
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sam Leon wrote: T o n g wrote: Hi, I know that thunderbird has been renamed to icedove in Debian. But for iceweasel, we can still type the command firefox, mozilla-firefox, or even mozilla and start it. So why icedove is not providing the thunderbird command? thanks You can try making a link: ln -s /usr/bin/icedove /usr/bin/thunderbird Sam I'd make it in /usr/local/ . Debian likes to keep it's /usr tree to itself. - -- Rich Healey - iTReign \.''`. / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developer / Systems Admin \ : :' : /[EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: richohealey33 \ `. `' / [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ `- / [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkj5P38ACgkQLeTfO4yBSAcNlwCffvgEKeS3DuuoUBsdvmkCYP6R ZWUAoM8eS2dh42Eoyx103qExUeFD8uj/ =93Ap -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: old dos and win3.1 games on Debian Etch amd64
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sven Joachim wrote: On 2008-10-15 05:37 +0200, Rich Healey wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 10:29:55PM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 06:21:51PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: wine started its life as a windows 3.11 emulator (or non-emulatr, whatever). Not in amd64. At this point, I still think it's too early to run a 64-bit environment unless you actually have programs that require 64-bit support. Too much stuff still only supports a 32-bit environment. You're shooting yourself in the foot if you're running 64-bit on a desktop with no explicit need. I'd disagree. 32bit + 64bit kernel is always a good idea, There's one exception to this rule, namely if you want to run old DOS software. The reason is that the AMD64 architecture does not provide virtual 8086 mode in its 32-bit emulation, so you must use some kind of processor emulation (DOSEMU generally provides that, but the Debian package in Etch may not). However, 16-bit protected mode is still supported, so it should be possible to run Windows 3.x programs under wine. If I were Douglas, I'd definitely go for that first. Sven I can't answer positively, but hardware emulation _OF_SOME_DESCRIPTION_ is definately possible running a 64 bit kernel, I ran lenny amd64 on my MacbookPro and ran a hardware accellerated VirtualBox VM running 32 bit Vista. I don't know how this maps accross to Doug's situation, my thoughts would be that the added instruction set just goes unused because the old application doesn't acknowledge it's existence? Apologies if i'm being dense. Rich - -- Rich Healey - iTReign \.''`. / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developer / Systems Admin \ : :' : /[EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: richohealey33 \ `. `' / [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ `- / [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkj1l8cACgkQLeTfO4yBSAejQgCgwbUfHexFtXsdjDvbqgMecefV yX4AnA/KogdaKVzdRyh4ttPWV5/GunNL =k2/K -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: old dos and win3.1 games on Debian Etch amd64
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Johnson wrote: Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 10:29:55PM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 06:21:51PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: Now I have an AMD Athlon 3800+ with 1 GB ram, run Debian Etch amd64 with the nVidia driver in icewm. I have the dos 6.3 set of 5 floppies and the Windows 3.11 set of 6 floppies. I also have the Harpoon for windows CD. The question is what app to run to make it work. The choices seem to be dosbox qemu bochs wine started its life as a windows 3.11 emulator (or non-emulatr, whatever). Not in amd64. At this point, I still think it's too early to run a 64-bit environment unless you actually have programs that require 64-bit support. Too much stuff still only supports a 32-bit environment. You're shooting yourself in the foot if you're running 64-bit on a desktop with no explicit need. I'd disagree. 32bit + 64bit kernel is always a good idea, and 64 bit userlands are fine. The exception is if you have to use binary blobs, and even then kludgy wrappers do exist. I run a 64 bit userland on a PPC machine (this _IS_ a bad idea, but I need the speed..) @Doug, I do love old machines, let us know how you go. I have some disks that you're welcome to, perhaps we can work something out with shipping? If you have some old kit lying around, perhaps we could trade? Regards Rich - -- Rich Healey - iTReign \.''`. / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developer / Systems Admin \ : :' : /[EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: richohealey33 \ `. `' / [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ `- / [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkj1ZWcACgkQLeTfO4yBSAcYmwCfd70fI6sHhwh6F2BHkHC/LPIJ 08IAn2ROuUclqjBU7iV+w7jl//ASzIkU =b9HI -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 64 bit kernel, 32-bit userland (was Re: old dos and win3.1 games on Debian Etch amd64)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: On 10/14/08 22:37, Rich Healey wrote: [snip] I'd disagree. 32bit + 64bit kernel is always a good idea, and 64 bit How do you do that? Just install the amd64 kernel and reboot? Yup :) Very simple, addresses a lot of problems. In production if a customer purchases x86_64 kit that's what I deploy to them. You'll even find it's in the i386 repos. Regards Rich - -- Rich Healey - iTReign \.''`. / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developer / Systems Admin \ : :' : /[EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: richohealey33 \ `. `' / [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ `- / [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkj1bjkACgkQLeTfO4yBSAe/NgCfYJGIQNIkY986bHZ+eqEN+22G tpoAn00OuZwFn0wBvjL20ROJdoa6XrRs =gLQp -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re:[OT] Old Boxen [WAS] old dos and win3.1 games on Debian Etch amd64
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 02:37:11PM +1100, Rich Healey wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 10:29:55PM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 06:21:51PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: Now I have an AMD Athlon 3800+ with 1 GB ram, run Debian Etch amd64 with the nVidia driver in icewm. I have the dos 6.3 set of 5 floppies and the Windows 3.11 set of 6 floppies. I also have the Harpoon for windows CD. The question is what app to run to make it work. The choices seem to be dosbox qemu bochs wine started its life as a windows 3.11 emulator (or non-emulatr, whatever). Not in amd64. At this point, I still think it's too early to run a 64-bit environment unless you actually have programs that require 64-bit support. Too much stuff still only supports a 32-bit environment. You're shooting yourself in the foot if you're running 64-bit on a desktop with no explicit need. I'd disagree. 32bit + 64bit kernel is always a good idea, and 64 bit userlands are fine. The exception is if you have to use binary blobs, and even then kludgy wrappers do exist. I run a 64 bit userland on a PPC machine (this _IS_ a bad idea, but I need the speed..) Have you run qemu on that PPC to run x86 dos? I remember drooling over an RS/6000 7025-H50 but I couldn't get Sarge to boot on it. That was before I knew what I know now and perhaps it could have worked. It probably would have been too high a MHz too, but that's another issue on the back burner for now. I just want to relax with some games. @Doug, I do love old machines, let us know how you go. I have some disks that you're welcome to, perhaps we can work something out with shipping? If you have some old kit lying around, perhaps we could trade? I don't have any old kit that I'm not either using or plan to use (remember my low-MHz thread?). Now that I've moved, I want to get my Tyan dual-P-133 box set up (that was generously donated by a fellow DU lurker); all it needs is a new RTC and at least that is in a socket and still available. The only thing I've had fail on good old computers are the hard drives and CPU fans (on my P-II, need to fix that). There are good threads on using CF cards on the OpenBSD-misc list since many of those types use OBSD on CF cards on small boxes to make net appliances. CF cards look just like an IDE disk to the IDE controller and BIOS; just have to watch that you don't hit swap too often... I need to get more memory for both boxes but its not too expensive and is still available from a couple of on-line Canadian sites. Doug. I do remember that slow box thread, sadly my laptop had beer spilt upon it and mangled it pretty good. It's now being readied for mounting in my valiant. - -- Rich Healey - iTReign \.''`. / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developer / Systems Admin \ : :' : /[EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: richohealey33 \ `. `' / [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ `- / [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkj1bn8ACgkQLeTfO4yBSAcqBwCfSTufYj7P5gIAtz3wffMvoTNe MmoAoJiNnCPt4W/TvNH6jdxBGqAomFD2 =zpL6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 64 bit kernel, 32-bit userland (was Re: old dos and win3.1 games on Debian Etch amd64)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: On 10/14/08 23:14, Rich Healey wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 10/14/08 22:37, Rich Healey wrote: [snip] I'd disagree. 32bit + 64bit kernel is always a good idea, and 64 bit How do you do that? Just install the amd64 kernel and reboot? Yup :) Very simple, addresses a lot of problems. In production if a customer purchases x86_64 kit that's what I deploy to them. You'll even find it's in the i386 repos. Thanks. What if I want to build my own kernel? Just build a 64 bit kernel. If you're building an i386 or PPC kernel there is an option toplevel or one down in the config for a 64 bit kernel. These are the only two archtypes i've got much experience with, and also the only two that have a 32 bit subset instruction set that springs to mind. HTH - -- Rich Healey - iTReign \.''`. / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developer / Systems Admin \ : :' : /[EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: richohealey33 \ `. `' / [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ `- / [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkj1fecACgkQLeTfO4yBSAfKqQCaAhVsYj16vUdYW2C093lOPZHd DnwAmwTaHfOyAaB8XbgbI59Hrsq0xw71 =imF8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to add a virtual directory in apache with support to php files?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Star Liu wrote: I'm learning to use php. when i drop my Welcome.php into /var/www, which is the default root directory for localhost, and visit it by http://localhost/Welcome.php, it can display the html normally; but i want my php files in another place like /root/MyLife/LifeOS/StarLiu/, so I add a entry into /etc/apache2/sites-available/default, like this: Alias /php/ /root/MyLife/LifeOS/ Directory /root/MyLife/LifeOS/ Options Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews AllowOverride None Order allow,deny allow from all /Directory then i visit it by http://localhost/php/StarLiu/Welcome.php, but it pops out the download dialog to download the Welcome.php file. it seems i didn't configure it correctly, how can i fix it? thanks This is probably better directed at an apache list, but from memory you need to take your handler directives and nest them in the directory tags. Or apply them globally. Sorry for the vague reply - -- Rich Healey - iTReign \.''`. / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developer / Systems Admin \ : :' : /[EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: richohealey33 \ `. `' / [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ `- / [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjsp9MACgkQLeTfO4yBSAdsMgCeLkknfFQRAUxysVI986Qq7wYZ cGwAoIc2ZT96ltynMu4UcHDALmzzj6Rd =JNWr -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to change the default web browser from epiphany to iceweasel?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Star Liu wrote: as the title. everytime when i click a link in pidgin, it opens epiphany, but i usually use iceweseal, how to change the behavior of pidgin and other applications to use iceweseal as the default web browser? thanks What desktopenvironment? Also, in pidgin's settings i believe this can be changed. something like iceweasel %u for the browser command - -- Rich Healey - iTReign \.''`. / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developer / Systems Admin \ : :' : /[EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: richohealey33 \ `. `' / [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ `- / [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjq/8QACgkQLeTfO4yBSAeDtwCfX3C1eq4vyCBBTz5r11wemqfQ 0mwAn0RTsQltY6nTW4zHHpG/we4D/BS8 =JTfK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to change the default web browser from epiphany to iceweasel?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Star Liu wrote: thank you. do you have any IM so that i can add you into my debian group? Hi Star, You've already added me, but as Andrei points out the IRC is a very consistent place to find support/kill time. Kind Regards Rich Healey - -- Rich Healey - iTReign \.''`. / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developer / Systems Admin \ : :' : /[EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: richohealey33 \ `. `' / [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ `- / [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjr84gACgkQLeTfO4yBSAduugCdEez6Zw7d1ua+QozmrXvqheni ftQAn0EruWISAw8pK2TZrJr68NYpJS0h =0ce5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: icedove
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Lindsay wrote: I have just switched over to Debian. I like it a lot better than openSuse and my wife likes it as well. In icedove, if i click on a url it opens up the default web browser. I would much prefer it to open up the Iceweasel browser which is my preferred browser. Where in icedove can I change it to open iceweasel? thanks John Hi John, This was actually just discussed on this list, but in the context of pidgin. I'd suggest searching the archives, but since you're new and I'm in a good mood: On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Diego Martínez Castañeda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suppose you're in GNOME, isn't it? Then, go to System-Preferences-Favorite Applications and select yours. I'm not using GNOME in English so, my translation could be wrong. diego On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Jaime Tarrant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tend to set this using: update-alternatives --config x-www-browser This will show a numbered list of installed browsers, from which you can select the number corresponding to your desired web browser. From memory, you need to run this as root. Although, as others have pointed out, some apps hold app specific settings, thus they might also need to be changed. Kind Regards, Jaime Kind Regards, and happy Debian'ing Rich - -- Rich Healey - iTReign \.''`. / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developer / Systems Admin \ : :' : /[EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: richohealey33 \ `. `' / [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ `- / [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjr/SwACgkQLeTfO4yBSAc29gCfegfFXkHpxSV4UpzJ0wgXgbYF rvgAoI12DYHmMj544k1aNRx/L7V7Kfta =zBcS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: need help on configing alsa in sarge
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Serena Cantor wrote: My sound card is ISA SB 16, which use sb module. It's old, that's why it's hard to config. alsa works in etch, but not in sarge. alsaconf can't find SB 16 in sarge Is it possible to copy alsa config file in etch to sarge? Possibly, but you'd need to check that there were no changes between then configuration settings (uie, added removed features). Can I ask why you're using Sarge still? In a month or so it will be 2 releases old! Rich - -- Rich Healey - iTReign \.''`. / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developer / Systems Admin \ : :' : /[EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: richohealey33 \ `. `' / [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ `- / [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjpcJEACgkQLeTfO4yBSAc7YACfVJc89TIbmufhXrp3C4igdujG EfIAoLbH9eLO/sE+d6cuisYUiIqHM5eT =8My0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian testing + xen 3.2.1 + dom0 kernel 2.6.18 + clvm 2.x - impossible ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Peter Van Biesen wrote: Hi, I'm trying to setup a dom0 starting from a debian testing installation. I installed testing, then installed the 2.6.18 kernel from stable and the hypervisor from testing. After a reboot xen is now up and running. I now want to use clvm. So I install redhat-cluster-suite and clvm. This installs the kernel modules for the 2.6.26 and the 2.6.18 kernel. However, the modules for the 2.6.18 kernel are version 1.3x, while for the 2.6.26 kernel are 2.x . Needless to say, cman will not start. I then tried to compile de kernel module for my 2.6.18 kernel from source using the module-assistant. This fails on lm_interface.h, which is not in the 2.6.18 source tree. Is it really impossible to run clvm 2.x on a dom0 ? Or am i missing something ? Has anybody used clvm with xen ? Kindest regards, Peter. Why exactly do you want to use the Etch kernel? - -- Rich Healey - iTReign \.''`. / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developer / Systems Admin \ : :' : /[EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: richohealey33 \ `. `' / [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ `- / [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkjiEfoACgkQLeTfO4yBSAcu4wCgkrY6FSZJtJCqEN2dquDtA+rh pX4AoMO3MyqECH4ZlgdD4PwKXFP0zsu8 =5SIq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian testing + xen 3.2.1 + dom0 kernel 2.6.18 + clvm 2.x - impossible ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Peter Van Biesen wrote: Because you can't use a newer kernel as a xen dom0 kernel. The only working dom0 kernel ( at the moment ) is a 2.6.18 afaik. Kindest regards, Peter. On Tuesday 30 September 2008 13:48:10 Rich Healey wrote: Peter Van Biesen wrote: Hi, I'm trying to setup a dom0 starting from a debian testing installation. I installed testing, then installed the 2.6.18 kernel from stable and the hypervisor from testing. After a reboot xen is now up and running. I now want to use clvm. So I install redhat-cluster-suite and clvm. This installs the kernel modules for the 2.6.26 and the 2.6.18 kernel. However, the modules for the 2.6.18 kernel are version 1.3x, while for the 2.6.26 kernel are 2.x . Needless to say, cman will not start. I then tried to compile de kernel module for my 2.6.18 kernel from source using the module-assistant. This fails on lm_interface.h, which is not in the 2.6.18 source tree. Is it really impossible to run clvm 2.x on a dom0 ? Or am i missing something ? Has anybody used clvm with xen ? Kindest regards, Peter. Why exactly do you want to use the Etch kernel? I see, apologies for the blunt reply. Rich - -- Rich Healey - iTReign \.''`. / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developer / Systems Admin \ : :' : /[EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: richohealey33 \ `. `' / [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ `- / [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjiz2QACgkQLeTfO4yBSAe+owCfYmXRAiEngA5uYjr/S5j5fh2c mcYAoLMeSM/smM9u0rVt2HMm9oEqClEf =CW57 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is Novel Suse not friendly to real linux world? and how about Red hat and Debian?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Star Liu wrote: I read a article about the IP issues among Microsoft, SCO, Novel Suse and the other Linux world yestorday. I felt quite angry about what Microsoft has done to Linux in order to keep its market in software. so i hope i can get more information about this. 1. If Novel Suse is so obviously not friendly to free software world, why so many people still use it? does it mean people who use Suse do not have the spirit of free software? 2. I also know that Enterprise Edition of Red hat is not a free distribution, so does it mean Red hat do not have the spirit of free software? RHEL is teetering on the edge of non-free'd'ness. It's not beer free, and BITS of it are not speech-free, but you're paying for the support contract. RHEL is very open about a) CentOS being a beer free RHEL without the support contract (and with a bigger package set to boot) b) Fedora being a totally speech-and-beer-free distribution that feeds RHEL and Cent, and that the money from RHEL directly sponsors Fedora. Red Hat _DO_ have a clear dedication to the FOSS movement, and are, in my mind at about the same level as myself getting paid to support/implement Debian systems. 3. Shall Debian follow the way of Red hat to have a nonfree enterprise edition? 4. Do Debian has the danger of IP lawsuits created by microsoft? Knowing what you'd read to lead you to these conclusions would be handy. Regards Rich Healey - -- Rich Healey - iTReign \.''`. / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developer / Systems Admin \ : :' : /[EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: richohealey33 \ `. `' / [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ `- / [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjTSI0ACgkQLeTfO4yBSAfoRQCfaczFj/fOVxGPUDEpBIguiF1k pGQAoLSGKHixerulJFrSCXecIXBGjdGM =Ko/7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Debian Sig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bob Cox wrote: On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 16:43:06 +1000, Rich Healey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Bob Cox wrote: http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=debian+logo+ascii+art leads to: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2001/07/msg00686.html HTH Thanks Bob, That's truly amazing! I was actually looking for the email sig sized one I saw, but i'll keep digging through the results of your google dork. The second result leads here: http://thrillofconfusion.com/post/04141446 which may be what you are looking for. Thanks Bob, and others. I found it (see below) :D - -- Rich Healey - iTReign \.''`. / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developer / Systems Admin \ : :' : /[EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: richohealey33 \ `. `' / [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ `- / [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjTI94ACgkQLeTfO4yBSAcdqACgsIrx9SoqVUmnskL5QSTEKsp4 JxYAoMtGayCVk6dA2PikU3PUvWILmShJ =bPMW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Debian Sig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [[Sorry Bob, hit the wrong reply button!]] Bob Cox wrote: On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 11:49:53 +1000, Rich Healey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've seen a ASCII art sig on this list, of the debian swirl.. but can't nut out what to google to find it! If anyone's got it that'd be great.. http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=debian+logo+ascii+art leads to: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2001/07/msg00686.html HTH Thanks Bob, That's truly amazing! I was actually looking for the email sig sized one I saw, but i'll keep digging through the results of your google dork. If you look very carefully you'll notice I have a nicely sized hole in my sig.. VV - -- Rich Healey - iTReign \/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developer / Systems Admin \ /[EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: richohealey33 \/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] \__/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjIvfoACgkQLeTfO4yBSAeRbwCgzFfEK9Czrzxk1iA2L2MsIf+D Q20AoLxpiUug8ahOXYIHwigGj2PGFcx0 =7bPJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: reply-to-list for icedove? was Re: [OT] was Re: diff display
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 thveillon.debian wrote: Johannes Wiedersich a écrit : On 2008-09-10 13:31, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: [snip] I am sorry for having accidentally sent that OT message to list. Does anyone know, if there is a way of fixing the missing 'reply-to-list' functionally of icedove for lenny? Since the extension doesn't work any more, I acquired the habit of always using 'reply-all' and then editing the 'to's and 'cc's manually, but unfortunately this is error prone. Thanks, Johannes I have reply to mailing list 0.3.1 and it works ok with Icedove here. https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/thunderbird/addon/4455 It is considered experimental on Mozilla website I just noticed, but never had a problem with it. Tom OOOh thanks! That's brilliant :D - -- Rich Healey - iTReign \/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developer / Systems Admin \ /[EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: richohealey33 \/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] \__/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjJyxgACgkQLeTfO4yBSAdvJQCdFPCs/pRXdybRmX/Nc0LYV/1M 1a0AoKk7nBI14QpDKwm5SVuSmGcjs1zf =wiQm -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] Debian Sig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've seen a ASCII art sig on this list, of the debian swirl.. but can't nut out what to google to find it! If anyone's got it that'd be great.. Cheers Rich - -- Rich Healey - iTReign \/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developer / Systems Admin \ /[EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: richohealey33 \/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] \__/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjHJZIACgkQLeTfO4yBSAegNQCgpQiQwEhNNZT4YkFfdqbBBOG6 FS4AnRvVIFRKfzanoWhmsjExiEn5/rje =IRQQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Challenge - Getting Debian Working on a Pair of Real Old Laptops
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Scarletdown wrote: I have a pair of old P-I based Toshiba Laptops (Satellite Pro 425CDT and Portege 650CT), and I am trying to figure out how to get a working Debian installation on them. These laptops are very light on RAM. The Satellite has 40MB (which I believe is the most she can take), and the Portege has 24MB (can take up to 80MB). Both of them have successfully run Windows 98SE, so I figure they should be able to run an ultra lightweight Debian desktop as well. For the local desktop setup, which will just be mostly for maintenance purposes, I am wanting to use LXDE as my desktop environment with the only additional X-based apps installed being XMMS (these have decent on board sound, so it would be a shame to let it go to waste), and Dillo, for basic graphical web browsing. The primary use for these two laptops however, will be as thin clients which would connect to another more fully featured Debian system via XDMCP. For this, I will use GDM, since none of the other login managers I have tried have any easy way to select remote login as a session. So anyway, I have run a test install, by first doing a minimal net install of Stable on my build box and upgrading to Sid. After transferring the drive from the build box to one of the laptops, I was greeted with a kernel panic (same with when I tried it in the other laptop). I don't recall what the actual full error messages were, but apparently, neither 24MB or 40MB are sufficient to run a bare bones console only implementation of Debian? I am guessing that these laptops can't use a 2.6 kernel, since I tried Damn Small Linux (which uses 2.4) on them just to see if I could get a working desktop, and was able to run Fluxbox and get on the Web with Dillo. So now that I know that these laptops can boot up into functional Linux systems, are there any suggestions I might try to get a proper pure Debian setup on them? I don't want to go with DSL, because there are just too many annoying little details to configure manually. Come to think of it, I don't really want to go with any live distro. Suggestions? Pointers? Tips? My 480CDT was great with Sid, Till it died (housemates spilled beer on it). My trick was aptitude purge python. (I'm a python coder so I put it back), but that strips the system down. You can also pass init=/bin/sh to the kernel and work your way up fom there.. - -- Rich Healey - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developer / Systems Admin - OpenPGP: 0x8C8147807 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: richohealey33 irc.psych0tik.net- #hbh #admins richohealey irc.freenode.org - #hbh #debian PythonNinja -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAki/lFYACgkQLeTfO4yBSAfLLACaAnp8Dd1Jx45w/dziyIwX0nVc Q+IAnRBRH+eXkZ3iVvpktUK5rr/4K5a/ =0rQg -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: favor needed by debian beginner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: favor needed by debian beginner Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 10:33:55 +0300 [Your question belongs to debian-user, so I'm Cc'ing there] On Wed,03.Sep.08, 00:00:13, Navjot Kanda wrote: [...] Its my second day and i tried to make some programs with gcc in C language and vim editor. But this vim editor is cumbersome. Here is a nice article which might tell you why (and how) you should use vim: http://linuxgazette.net/152/srinivasan.html Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) I teach C at the college level using Debian (etch). Although the students have gnome and gedit, I actually force them to use vi/nano and the CLI for much of the work. My arguement to them is that different distributions of Linux/UNIX have different apps associated with them; however all(at least all I have seen) have vi and of course the standard terminal interface. As such, as long as they can use the CLI and vi they are capable of utilizing any such machine. Larry And don't forget that once you become accustomed to the power of vim, other editors will start to feel cumbersome by comparison. Rich -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAki/GOMACgkQLeTfO4yBSAc7mQCdHN9dZkvHEZBlhEUO/Tky8Em3 JUwAnjFXM1ud4HPhKnvGFAEQRodt5lGn =vz5q -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: need help with cc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: On 08/22/08 23:04, Daniel Watkins wrote: On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 23:52:27 -0400 raman narasimhan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm new to debian.. after compilation whenever i type ./a.out, bash says permission denied or says segmentation fault... how do i resolve the problem ? If you get a 'permission denied', ensure that the execute bit is set ('chmod +x file'). But gcc sets the file permissions for you. If you get a segmentation fault, that suggests that the code being compiled is faulty. Blame the compiler That's a CompSci 101 mistake. Erm.. I believe he was blaming the coder :P - -- Rich Healey - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developer / Systems Admin - OpenPGP: 0x8C8147807 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: richohealey33 irc.psych0tik.net- #hbh #admins richohealey irc.freenode.org - #hbh #debian PythonNinja -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkivudsACgkQLeTfO4yBSAcn7wCdHn7FmRHTDdf590vwuitNBd1/ IlcAniti8/z9GlgrZE1n8p52GHf1Rq4Q =l0gy -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can't configure networking for static IP address
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 s. keeling wrote: Vwaju [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Given that this server is just a lab project (with no critical data), what's the worst that could happen? Perhaps some smart Russian/Chinese/... finds it and turns it into a bot master, or starts attacking DoD systems with it, or turns it into a clandestine p2p site bringing the MafiAA down on you. Have fun. And then he's partially responsible for leaving his system open (if i leave my car unlocked and someone steals it, no way insurance is paying up but that person still goes to jail). Perhaps he gathers some information on the clandestine party, perhaps he helps them come to justice. Perhaps nothing bad happens! He's behind a nat gateway, and long before he's offering services, his box needs to become publically routable ;) - -- Rich Healey - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developer / Systems Admin - OpenPGP: 0x8C8147807 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: richohealey33 irc.psych0tik.net- #hbh #admins richohealey irc.freenode.org - #hbh #debian PythonNinja -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkig9kYACgkQLeTfO4yBSAfARgCfUKT9gDPHDBgDru/H0+4hQWof 2vwAoNg+4SU/ajgzgipDiSdC1gKvPgU8 =9hdh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: installing a package from lenny on an etch machine...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mumia W.. wrote: On 08/01/2008 12:17 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: [...] As you can see, the doc package installed OK, but the server package needs a later version of some basic C libraries. I'd rather not upgrade the Etch machine to Lenny right now. And I really don't want to get into running an Etch Machine with Lenny libraries. So I suspect that what I really need to do is download the dibbler source package and recompile it on Etch. Can anybody tell me how to do that? RTFM is easy if you know what parts to read, so if you can point me to the right parts of the FM, that will be great! If you already have the appropriate deb-src lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list, you can do this: mkdir ~/dibbler cd ~/dibbler apt-get install build-essential apt-get source dibbler fakeroot ./dibbler-*/debian/rules binary That should create a dibbler binary in your home directory. If you need to place the deb-src lines in sources.list first, read man sources.list and man apt-get Note, I have no experience with dibber; these are more or less generic instructions for compiling with Debian: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-system.en.html#s-sourcepkgs Or even, add the source line and apt-get build-dep dibbler apt-get -b source dibbler -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiULrgACgkQLeTfO4yBSAdHuQCePiF5ZeSbjWKxB9KuiHx8XxYU Fo4AoLFGFdwx4PHJpp8mtsITbL6rAk9V =R0Xy -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] Move IMAP Mail
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have a quick question, I just got an iPhone, and want to hook against my gmail account, but as it stands i need to have thunderbird running to filter all my mail so i don't get all my listmail in my inbox on my phone. Gmail's filters/labels don't work.. they just label it and leave it in my inbox. My question is, if I set up getmail + procmail, will the changes filter back to the server? Is there a better way to do this? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiPHjcACgkQLeTfO4yBSAdecwCggTvjAmpSVEntA84UimEYqI4L ybgAn1YkwoeWKYWzYMH6uD0ktqd1QC/Q =z7Yb -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Move IMAP Mail
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: Rich Healey escreveu: I have a quick question, I just got an iPhone, and want to hook against my gmail account, but as it stands i need to have thunderbird running to filter all my mail so i don't get all my listmail in my inbox on my phone. Gmail's filters/labels don't work.. they just label it and leave it in my inbox. Select also the archive option in the filter, and it will remove the mails from the Inbox. Thankyou! My question is, if I set up getmail + procmail, will the changes filter back to the server? No, because getmail will retrieve your e-mails and procmail will only deal with the local copy. Is there a better way to do this? The solution above should do the trick. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiPq+AACgkQLeTfO4yBSAfu5wCgxpnap2WRTDaROfF05A98nnTx 3XkAoLUs6RU0zbo5fcnLRk2LTAS7Qu1K =hFQu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: virtual machine choices in Debian
H.S. wrote: Hello, Many months ago I had first installed a virtual machine, VMWare. I used it for a few months and then never touched. IIRC, it was free for students back then. This week I looked it up again (I still have the virtual machines installed) and wanted to reinstall the new version of VMWare Desktop. I noticed that it is not free anymore but comes with a 30 day trial feature. So, what free and preferably open source choices do we have for virtual machines in Debian? Pros and cons based on your experiences will be appreciated. Thanks. -HS I've been using a Vista VM every day for work on top of Lenny in VirtualBox for 6 moths now, it's great. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Incredible world-wide transportation network
Nate Bargmann wrote: * Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008 Jul 15 21:21 -0500]: In 1990? Seems like it would have been a close-out deal. I bought it from a friend at the tech school I was attending. That computer served me very well for several years. Leading Edge D? Nope. No name assemblage of pieces and parts. The main board was a DTK, the rest had various pedigrees such as a Hercules monochrome video board, IBM 88 key keyboard, IBM 62.5 Watt PS that I had to upgrade to a 150 Watt soon after buying the drive, Amdek amber monitor. It did have 640k of RAM and dual 360k floppies when I bought it in 1989. All this talk has be wanting to get my 286 going.. Really need to sort out some Minix install media. Rich -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wine package dependencies
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Johnson wrote: On Mon, 2008-06-23 at 14:27 +1000, Keith Bates wrote: The version of wine I'm trying to install is 1.0.0. Debian version is testing. Aah, that's probably your problem. 1.0.0 is in unstable. 1.0rc2-1 is in testing. Unstable does not play well with others: Don't try to pull unstable sources on a testing box. I've never had any issues mixing them...? After all, testing is just week old unstable anyway. - -- Rich Healey - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developer / Systems Admin - OpenPGP: 0x8C8147807 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: richohealey33 irc.psych0tik.net- #hbh #admins richohealey irc.freenode.org - #hbh #debian PythonNinja -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIYDU0LeTfO4yBSAcRApbNAKCjfp3DntJakzS/0dkDxYMhMTcVGQCeOtt7 5sPvbnW7DfnjB8kgsjFDwXA= =NBCd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Root sending messages to users
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 s. keeling wrote: Rich Healey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Can't use it with other nix users, (although i'd see them creating new windows with my statusline), but works great for my technically illiterate housemate. That and putting xeyes all over his desktop remotely is hilarious. Whatever happened to xroach? It's still in freeBSD's ports.. ftp://ftp.kr.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-current/games/xroach-4.4_1.tbz - -- Rich Healey - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developer / Systems Admin - OpenPGP: 0x8C8147807 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: richohealey33 irc.psych0tik.net- #hbh #admins richohealey irc.freenode.org - #hbh #debian PythonNinja -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIYFk0LeTfO4yBSAcRAg0lAJ9IfJZAA0fOvU+YjAbUw372IlsE+gCdGU3J cNn3OTJdcPI5h25jMkEXk2M= =0v44 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Root sending messages to users
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 s. keeling wrote: Rich Healey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Can't use it with other nix users, (although i'd see them creating new windows with my statusline), but works great for my technically illiterate housemate. That and putting xeyes all over his desktop remotely is hilarious. Whatever happened to xroach? sorry dud link, this one is live. ftp://ftp.lf.net/pub/Mirrors/ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.10-RELEASE/packages/Latest/xroach.tgz - -- Rich Healey - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developer / Systems Admin - OpenPGP: 0x8C8147807 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: richohealey33 irc.psych0tik.net- #hbh #admins richohealey irc.freenode.org - #hbh #debian PythonNinja -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIYF2dLeTfO4yBSAcRAtG3AJ4lsnUbq9tv/AdK09ly3qo5eoytlwCgwh5v r3tqcPXgBE+OjM+u6j6MMuE= =ZU7C -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Root sending messages to users
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/23/08 21:36, Rich Healey wrote: s. keeling wrote: Rich Healey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Can't use it with other nix users, (although i'd see them creating new windows with my statusline), but works great for my technically illiterate housemate. That and putting xeyes all over his desktop remotely is hilarious. Whatever happened to xroach? sorry dud link, this one is live. ftp://ftp.lf.net/pub/Mirrors/ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.10-RELEASE/packages/Latest/xroach.tgz v4.10 is quite old. I wonder why they dropped it from subsequent releases. Bit rot? I've just build xroach 4.03 from potato.. either a) my WM doesn't like it or b) X has changed too much in that time. - -- Rich Healey - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developer / Systems Admin - OpenPGP: 0x8C8147807 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: richohealey33 irc.psych0tik.net- #hbh #admins richohealey irc.freenode.org - #hbh #debian PythonNinja -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIYGToLeTfO4yBSAcRAjy2AKCvx6H8FtOe6kaL/AwLy4GlwrEcZgCgkL+z /s7qm+Id7z06R44pS5Bm96Q= =3eZo -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Root sending messages to users
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/21/08 22:23, Rich Healey wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/20/08 09:12, Dotan Cohen wrote: 2008/6/20 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well, it is a one-user box, No it's not. Unix hasn't just had meat users in 30 years. If you don't believe me, cat her box's /etc/passwd. I meant, the only human user. but she is that user! When I SSH in I SSH in as her. That's horrible security practice. Add an account for yourself, and ssh in under it. I only SSH in from the LAN for a few seconds time ever. I update her system with apt-get, I copy over a file, stuff like that. There is no NAT on the router, so SSH is not forwarded in from outside. Even if, in this instance, there's no harm (she's you're wife, after all), it's still Bad Practice, and that makes for Bad Habits. In 15 seconds you can create user dotan on that machine, and log in as it, then sudo or su to do whatever you need to do. Besides.. I have a similar setup on my mother's machine, where i want my own .vimrc etc.. And how long did it take you to set up that account to your liking?? Not very on each machine, a few scp lines. He really should set up his own account. - -- Rich Healey - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developer / Systems Admin - OpenPGP: 0x8C8147807 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: richohealey33 irc.psych0tik.net- #hbh #admins richohealey irc.freenode.org - #hbh #debian PythonNinja -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIXgAhLeTfO4yBSAcRAvDKAKCWim/hMuNwHDN7yy5iORpCi2nWigCcDZil uRZuzLUOQ6U9c+xpVJ/Fjoo= =H9zt -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Root sending messages to users
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/20/08 09:12, Dotan Cohen wrote: 2008/6/20 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well, it is a one-user box, No it's not. Unix hasn't just had meat users in 30 years. If you don't believe me, cat her box's /etc/passwd. I meant, the only human user. but she is that user! When I SSH in I SSH in as her. That's horrible security practice. Add an account for yourself, and ssh in under it. I only SSH in from the LAN for a few seconds time ever. I update her system with apt-get, I copy over a file, stuff like that. There is no NAT on the router, so SSH is not forwarded in from outside. Even if, in this instance, there's no harm (she's you're wife, after all), it's still Bad Practice, and that makes for Bad Habits. In 15 seconds you can create user dotan on that machine, and log in as it, then sudo or su to do whatever you need to do. Besides.. I have a similar setup on my mother's machine, where i want my own .vimrc etc.. - -- Rich Healey - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developer / Systems Admin - OpenPGP: 0x8C8147807 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: richohealey33 irc.psych0tik.net- #hbh #admins richohealey irc.freenode.org - #hbh #debian PythonNinja -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIXcXNLeTfO4yBSAcRAsrkAJ4yKJxkvXumqS276lg5k3SXBEwDGACdHF00 BmUEiSbW62OnfZzxg4NemjI= =+NLp -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Root sending messages to users
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 06:01:21PM +, i'll teach you to turn away. wrote: Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MK Am 2008-06-17 04:01:26, schrieb i'll teach you to turn away.: does no one use 'talk' anymore? MK Ehm, this is for the console... Better: xtakl or linpopup does no one use CLI anymore? :D xmonad, urxvt, mutt, emacs-nox, mpc, irssi, screen... A A workable (but horrendously insecure) option i use when my housemate is using my computer at home is to login to it, start screen. Then login on a different pty and issue xterm -display :0 -e screen -x with vim already open in my screen session. Can't use it with other nix users, (although i'd see them creating new windows with my statusline), but works great for my technically illiterate housemate. That and putting xeyes all over his desktop remotely is hilarious. - -- Rich Healey - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developer / Systems Admin - OpenPGP: 0x8C8147807 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: richohealey33 irc.psych0tik.net- #hbh #admins richohealey irc.freenode.org - #hbh #debian PythonNinja -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIWyvcLeTfO4yBSAcRAjzCAJ4/NfP06BowTmNe+zdkcY7bS6uJdQCfeaav ME099ToSOUzyIRj2Ur9Rn28= =kxRZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which IM, blog and email service are best for debian users?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/15/08 05:46, Star Liu wrote: snip except that it refuses root to use it. :) As well it should. Why are you running as root? I disagree. I agree that in 99% of cases running normal UL applications as root is a bad idea, but this isn't ubuntu. If I want to play with [whatever] as root, then it should damn well let me. That said, the user who actually has some need to do it probably has the necessary skills to just remove the (e)uid check. - -- Rich Healey - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developer / Systems Admin - OpenPGP: 0x8C8147807 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: richohealey33 irc.psych0tik.net- #hbh #admins richohealey irc.freenode.org - #hbh #debian PythonNinja -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIVgJaLeTfO4yBSAcRAqduAKC/i/gVUPx0vvyUPRRIm/vxTm0XcQCeO4yH 6DtxURQukYDmTDKxzwqcWlA= =vYBA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which IM, blog and email service are best for debian users?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 04:04:10PM +1000, Rich Healey wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/15/08 05:46, Star Liu wrote: snip except that it refuses root to use it. :) As well it should. Why are you running as root? I disagree. I agree that in 99% of cases running normal UL applications as root is a bad idea, but this isn't ubuntu. If I want to play with [whatever] as root, then it should damn well let me. A certain version of SuSE would set the desktop background to red if you logged in as root. And looking at your signature, I noticed IRC wasn't really mentioned in this thread. Not exactly instant-messaging, but a good place to get support (errr... or to be labeled as n00b). I normally use xchat, which is probably also the client of choice for the Gnomes. From what I understand, Konversation is the client of choice for the Trolls (err... KDE folks). The ChatZilla extension to Iceweael (or whatever) is also quite nice. Gaim/Pidgin and Kopete have their own IRC plugins. And there's the irssi terminal-based client. irssi + screen. it's where it's at /plug - -- Rich Healey - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developer / Systems Admin - OpenPGP: 0x8C8147807 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: richohealey33 irc.psych0tik.net- #hbh #admins richohealey irc.freenode.org - #hbh #debian PythonNinja -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIVln+LeTfO4yBSAcRAjjNAJoCsFBI/VG/J1IEhWhuXZGmDBWOdgCgiI72 kNZUXNa3Y1rvmpHqDR6HU6s= =Z6Ng -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
debian build tools
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi.. I'm trying to get familiar with the debian build tools. I'm familiar with the process for building a package from a source tree, using debuild and or debuild, but i'm wanting to build myself a custom packe, from a debian source pakcage (obtained via apt-get source), with an addition to the configure string. To clarify, I'm wanting to build firefox instead of iceweasel (and technically, i want to build iceweasel with firefox branding, because i think the fox is prettier, and have no real interest in the debian/mozilla pissing match, you both produce great software that i enjoy using). So any guides on how to do this would be great (A do x,y,z would be handy short term.. but really I'm looking for docs). Sorry if these exist somewhere obvious and I haven't found them. Rich - -- Rich Healey - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developer / Systems Admin - OpenPGP: 0x8C8147807 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: richohealey33 irc.psych0tik.net- #hbh #admins richohealey irc.freenode.org - #hbh #debian PythonNinja -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIVxOcLeTfO4yBSAcRAgk9AJ9u0B0jYn5HhLttTPuKYRUHFJiqMACgrvD3 Q7PqSH0buIMSJ7kGPEiPaLQ= =tPBE -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Root sending messages to users
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Owen Townend wrote: On 17 Jun 2008 04:01:26 GMT, i'll teach you to turn away. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DC The wife uses one computer, I use another. We are both connected to DC the internet via a router, as such we can SSH into one another's DC boxen. Is there a way to pop up a message on the wife's machine, by DC SSHing in and having root access. We both use KDE 3.x if it matters. I does no one use 'talk' anymore? lish i never realized [EMAIL PROTECTED] ignoring him was an option. -sp Hey, Talking is a viable option, though less convenient depending on the distance between the computers. My brother and I used to chat over msn/gtalk despite being in the same house. A normal use case was sending a link then going to his room to show/chat about the page. Without the initial step then either I'd have to go get him and bring him back to my pc or take up more time trying to navigate back to the same page. You could always setup your own internal chat server or join up to one of the mainstream ones, though xmessage may fulfill the need as `echo hey|xmessage -nearmouse -file -` is simple enough. cheers, Owen. My housemates and I use msn for talking crap, and my irc network for shouting abuse at each other in a more readable way. - -- Rich Healey - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developer / Systems Admin - OpenPGP: 0x8C8147807 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: richohealey33 irc.psych0tik.net- #hbh #admins richohealey irc.freenode.org - #hbh #debian PythonNinja -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIV0W+LeTfO4yBSAcRAr0HAKC6cKNbA2XCzPGOoQg9VVSMzj0AzQCfeXDV zyE0GgjLeovKx74H6MU1kp0= =XHnQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [soopar OT] Mac killed my keybaord
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gregory Seidman wrote: On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 04:39:22PM +, Paul Johnson wrote: On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 12:12 -0400, Gregory Seidman wrote: Nope, the right-click is just the same as any other two-button mouse. Pushing the mouse down with a finger to the left of the top of the mouse is a left-click, pushing the mouse down with a finger to the left of the top of the mouse is a right-click. The squeeze is an entirely different operation, and can be bound to a variety of actions. If you just use the mouse as you are used to using a two-button mouse, it just works (assuming you have enabled the right-click in preferences). Either way, it still proves my ultimate point: Apple originally designed a single-button mouse to keep the learning curve as low as possible. The fact we're having this much discussion over how to make use of modern Apple mice suggests they're failing miserably at the intuition part of the simple mouse. They have managed to take something with very little learning curve and made it an order of magnitude more difficult and less obvious to use than similar competing products, which seems to me is counter to Apple's overall UI goals. Actually, if you sat down to use the mouse you'd find it worked just as you expected. Or if you plugged in a mouse you were used to. But Apple continues to design the system around a single-button mouse to make a friendly learning curve. You don't need a second button to interact with Mac applications. A click-and-hold brings up contextual menus the same way a right-click does. For those of us who expect something different, however, that is supported as well. It's clear to me that you are arguing this from a position of dedicated ignorance. When was the last time you tried to use a Mac? Perhaps a trip to an Apple store would give you some experience on which you could base your end of this discussion. Don't forget to ask the employees at the store to help you out. If you tell them you want to see how to use the Mighty Mouse as a two-button mouse, they'll be happy to help set the appropriate preference. This is not fact. There might be dedicated salespeople who are genuinely helpful. There are a lot who aren't. If I go to 4 mac stores tomorrow half the sales people will almost certainly fob me off. I own a macintosh (iMac G5). It runs Gentoo. I had a crack at osX (it came with leopard on it), and by the time I got it to the point where i could use it it was cluttered as hell from all the hacking I had to get done. More to the point, is that it came with one of those slimline metal keyboards. Honestly, this is one of the best keyboards I've owned, my mac is now keyboardless, I use that metal one at work. _BUT_ during the osX stage, the crazy updaty thing, which I might add is absurdly annoying, came up and offered me a firmware update for my keyboard. When I saw this, my immediate thought was who in their right mind would produce a keyboard that needs firmware?!. But, curiosity got the better of me. And now my beloved keyboard doesn't work the way it used to. On a PC the clear key used to toggle numlock, so on my laptop I could have the numpad work. Now it locks the numlock (Can't be turned off without unplugging the keyboard) and after pressing clear the keyboard stops working until I unplug it, turn off numlock, and plug it back in. It behaves like a laptop keyboard in this mode, with the umo. square as a numpad. Which is all well and good, but if I plug it into my desktop, which defaults to numlock on, I can't turn it off at all, without finding another keyboard, or finding ome arcane X option, that a) I can't type, and b) I can't get into man pages to find it. So basically, an Apple update broke my favourite keyboard. There are similar reports all over mac forums of people with similar experiences on osX. Where's this rant heading? After this happened, I was outraged, so I went to the mac store. I was told a) I was an idiot. What I was saying happening wasn't. Mac don't make mistakes. b) No I can't get a keyboard with the old firmware, it's not supported. How is this good customer service. If you don't want to actually interact with the user input devices and user interfaces we're discussing, I certainly can't make you. You do have to admit to yourself, however, that dismissing it out of hand with no experience is no different from those who say Linux is too hard or isn't ready for the desktop without ever trying it out. Paul Johnson --Greg - -- Rich Healey - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developer / Systems Admin - OpenPGP: 0x8C8147807 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: richohealey33 irc.psych0tik.net- #hbh #admins richohealey irc.freenode.org - #hbh #debian PythonNinja -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org
Re: apt-get joke
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Owen Townend wrote: On 25/05/2008, Sjoerd Hiemstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 25 May 2008 03:11:05 +1000 Owen Townen wrote: On 24/05/2008, Chris Bannister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.lessaid.net/fun/apt-get-wife.png heh, I still like `apt-get moo` The inventor of 'aptitude moo' has sense of humour as well Yeah, he/they even went that extra step of `aptitude --help|grep Cow` to match apt-get. Tru dedication to the humour. cheers, Owen. I still believe that you need to find a Woman that matches you, so apt-get -b source wife seems more likely, and besides, the apt-get build-dep wife should prepare you for marraige ;) Ok, I've thought this through waaay too far. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIOQ3jLeTfO4yBSAcRAnazAJ9Yo4tigiHm1Cs5k0mSLDAqb9ApbgCfYsMg xfaYmT+xlXg0zT3jD2DzPhg= =rMIq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Blocking Gmail ads
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: On 15/05/2008, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/15/08 12:41, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: On 14/05/2008, Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] OH, Airbus is using Linux too... So, do you want to have access to the sourcecode because you are traveling with an Airbus? In fact, I believe it is available. It has to be anyways, according to the GPL. There is no ASP loophole (I assume you are referring to the You need to study the GPL more closely. The source only needs to be available to parties that you distribute binaries to. In this case, presuming that Airbus subcontracted out the coding of the in-flight entertainment module, the distributees are Airbus and the companies that purchase the planes. How does this work with GPLv3? They changed it from distribute to convey. Is Airbus conveying the software to its customers or not? If there is a way to bring a USB dongle and get some of the software from the entertainment system in the Airbus passenger seats, has that I believe that's called Stealing and in a ruling totally non-GPL related, is illegal. software been distributed to me or not? How does the AGPL handle a situation like this, if the software were under the AGPL? - Jordi G. H. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFILPwyLeTfO4yBSAcRAr7bAKCYehgtuEg55zSaw9qouQ7jprh/1QCdGOD3 oXb9Q31YrWkGHEPLgKTakzM= =gUF8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apt pinning suspect?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alex Samad wrote: On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 03:54:10PM +1000, Rich Healey wrote: Jaime Tarrant wrote: Rich Healey wrote: Hi List, [snip] I'll give that a shot, although the problem is _NOT_ at the stage of installing, `apt-cache policy kfind` does not acknowledge the later version's existance in the repo (can someone on i386 verify that there are builds of the .72 version in the experimental repo?) have you tried apt-cache policy package name, that should give yo a look at what apt sees Err... did you read the original post, where i showed the apt-cache policy for the two suspect package? (short, not snide answer, yes) Cheers Cheers EDIT: I accidentally posted off list to jamie, and it's looking like there may only be builds of .72 for amd64 can anyone confirm? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIKVBcLeTfO4yBSAcRAojBAJ42pcvRIyo+21nz1NdqdJ+n6L4ZUACfUOhH +S6auAkcZhn43+m7ezym/zA= =n8OQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Apt pinning suspect?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi List, I've got a Lenny/Unstable/Experimental laptop that I use for work (yes, i realise that precariously mixing 3 releases is stupid.. but I'm committed now so oh well.) Anyway, the point is that my pure unstable/experimental box at home has pulled in all of kde 4 (version 4:4.0.72-1 0), but my laptop at work can find kdebase 4:4.0.72-1 0, but the rest of kde4 is still 4:4.0.68+svn794641-1 as a result, it won't update, and is holding various bits of my system back. This is in apt-cache policy as well, so for example kfind (one of kdebases's dependencies): [xenia:/home/richo]# apt-cache policy kfind kfind: Installed: 4:4.0.68+svn794641-1 Candidate: 4:4.0.68+svn794641-1 Version table: *** 4:4.0.68+svn794641-1 0 501 http://ftp.iinet.net.au experimental/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-2+b1 0 500 http://ftp.iinet.net.au lenny/main Packages 499 http://ftp.iinet.net.au unstable/main Packages 4:3.5.7-3lenny1 0 500 http://security.debian.org lenny/updates/main Packages [xenia:/home/richo]# But [xenia:/home/richo]# apt-cache policy kdebase kdebase: Installed: 4:4.0.68+svn794641-1 Candidate: 4:4.0.72-1 Version table: 4:4.0.72-1 0 501 http://ftp.iinet.net.au experimental/main Packages *** 4:4.0.68+svn794641-1 0 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-2 0 500 http://ftp.iinet.net.au lenny/main Packages 499 http://ftp.iinet.net.au unstable/main Packages 4:3.5.7-3lenny1 0 500 http://security.debian.org lenny/updates/main Packages [xenia:/home/richo]# [xenia:/home/richo]# cat /etc/apt/preferences Package: * Pin: release a=lenny Pin-Priority: 900 Package: * Pin: release a=unstable Pin-Priority: 499 Package: * Pin: release a=experimental Pin-Priority: 501 [xenia:/home/richo]# cat /etc/apt/apt.conf APT::Install-Recommends false; APT::Install-Suggests false; [xenia:/home/richo]# Many thanks, and don't forget to snip all this ;) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIKM8cLeTfO4yBSAcRAm5RAJ9ptMp8L+Je8PURnJffGbbNnRiTbwCeM2Ku xn5DQ1e8kE1OTpQuO8qOQfY= =orEn -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Reducing wastage of screen real estate in gnome
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/12/08 09:35, Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote: I have a 15 monitor at home running at 1024x768. I find that for most Maybe you're a Starving College Student, or maybe things cost more in India (tariffs on imported Chinese goods?), but 17 LCD monitors are pretty darned cheap. And you should be able to find used CRT monitors even cheaper. Just noting Ron's fondness for starving college students, that was his appraisal of me when I was too lazy (see! not poor!) to go get more.. Which I still haven't... apps, very little screen estate is left for the actual stuff and most of it is eaten up by the menubars, toolbars, and othe gui elements. I have my gnome preferences set to small icons for the toolbars without text. Are there any other configuration parameters that can be tweaked in my gtkrc (or elsewhere) to reduce/remove the extra space around the toolbar icons and make better use of screen space? I almost wish the gtk/gnome devs had smaller monitors :-) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIKNb5LeTfO4yBSAcRAmfJAJ9n8bFjbG8SsfOrJxPq0nGAO9nR+ACffxiZ WSyXeiNEDZoMWHyrb5YaDTU= =W67i -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Reducing wastage of screen real estate in gnome
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/12/08 18:47, Rich Healey wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/12/08 09:35, Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote: I have a 15 monitor at home running at 1024x768. I find that for most Maybe you're a Starving College Student, or maybe things cost more in India (tariffs on imported Chinese goods?), but 17 LCD monitors are pretty darned cheap. And you should be able to find used CRT monitors even cheaper. Just noting Ron's fondness for starving college students, that was his appraisal of me when I was too lazy (see! not poor!) to go get more.. It's much more polite to think of someone as a poor student than a cheapskate SOB or a lazy bastard... True... Which I still haven't... Buying more RAM is nothing more than typing a few keys in at newegg.com. Wow, you *are* lazy! Well not newegg, since postage to Aus would be double the ram itself, plus despite making a decent wage for my age, I manage to never have any cash to spend on things that aren't strictly speaking broken. But yes, I'll admit I do tend towards the lazy end of the scale. Regards Rich Healey. BTW: Sorry Ron for sending to you personally, and CCing the list, Thunderbird seems to pick a random behaviour for the reply all button with each use... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIKQBdLeTfO4yBSAcRAkc3AKCGH+P7kcKDidH62h8bVrWOYTmIBgCdEmhi xsogzMeAnx3OU5Y78BZrIkc= =mrPS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Reducing wastage of screen real estate in gnome
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/12/08 19:28, Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] Maybe you're a Starving College Student, or maybe things cost more in India (tariffs on imported Chinese goods?), but 17 LCD monitors are pretty darned cheap. And you should be able to find used CRT monitors even cheaper. More than the price, it is my unwillingness to dump my monitor that has served me well and continuing to do so. By going with a 17 LCD, you'll get more screen acreage and more physical desk space. 19 monitors -- in the US, at least -- can even be had for $180 (and that's not even the el cheapos). Besides, upgrading hardware to deal with software issues seems to be the Redmond way of doing things :-) I totally understand. But if that's your mentality, then GNOME (or even XFCE) isn't for you. fvwm is more your style. I use E17 because it's awesome with space, there are some really tiny themes. Also, in aus i got my 22 widescreen for work for just over $300 AUD. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIKQH1LeTfO4yBSAcRAjdAAJ0aCnjjYdrg3Ki2AdmGPUzZhzCGnACfe6vp JM1sTRoXw93xx6A/5r/3O0g= =X31f -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apt pinning suspect?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jaime Tarrant wrote: Rich Healey wrote: Hi List, I've got a Lenny/Unstable/Experimental laptop that I use for work (yes, i realise that precariously mixing 3 releases is stupid.. but I'm committed now so oh well.) Anyway, the point is that my pure unstable/experimental box at home has pulled in all of kde 4 (version 4:4.0.72-1 0), but my laptop at work can find kdebase 4:4.0.72-1 0, but the rest of kde4 is still 4:4.0.68+svn794641-1 as a result, it won't update, and is holding various bits of my system back. [snip] Many thanks, and don't forget to snip all this ;) I wonder whether having unstable pinned below 500, and stable having the default value of 500 results in apt not looking at unstable, even when installing packages from experimental? What happens if you remove the unstable entry from preferences, or if you change its preference to =500 and then try to install the experimental packages? Bearing in mind that the packages I'm referring to are only in experimental, and the unstable line means that experimental installs can pull in unstable dependencies, and I can intenionally install unstable packages, but my default is testing. I'll give that a shot, although the problem is _NOT_ at the stage of installing, `apt-cache policy kfind` does not acknowledge the later version's existance in the repo (can someone on i386 verify that there are builds of the .72 version in the experimental repo?) Cheers EDIT: I accidentally posted off list to jamie, and it's looking like there may only be builds of .72 for amd64 can anyone confirm? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIKS0CLeTfO4yBSAcRAmKWAJ9I4v/pKbbz4cfQ5XB6GtByR6aKkwCdFwrC 2mmJjiI8B7V9bS7b+G6HQ38= =fn3H -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gfortran Permission denied
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 michael wrote: Hello list, as you guess I am having serious boot problems, grub loading fails at stage 1.5 with Error 17. I did not install/re-install anything, resize partitions or anything else could do something wrong. I was trasferring data from my usb HD when the process stopped (input/output error) and the system went completely frozen. From that moment on I can not boot from HD. Using knoppix I can read all partitions... exept /home and / I tried to reinstall grub on MBR using the ubuntu studio rescue (apologize for that :-) ) and SGD (Super Grub Disk). The former stops during device mapping, showing partitions like /dev/sd1, /dev/sd2 and so on which is quite absurd, the latter is unable to install grub on the MBR (for the same problem I guess ...) and to boot any of the two OS (XP is there, but I do not boot it from ages ) I would prefer not to do a fresh install if not necessary even if my data are backed up on a safe partition. Any ideas? Can I resume my lenny? regards raffaele --=_Part_16140_9085696.1210238246187 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello list,brbras you guess I am having serious boot problems, grub loading fails at stage 1.5 with quot;Error 17quot;. brbrI did not install/re-install anything, resize partitions or anything else could do something wrong. I was trasferring data from my usb HD when the process stopped (input/output error) and the system went completely frozen.br From that moment on I can not boot from HD.brbrUsing knoppix I can read all partitions... exept /home and /brbrI tried to reinstall grub on MBR using the ubuntu studio rescue (apologize for that :-) ) and SGD (Super Grub Disk). br The former stops during device mapping, showing partitions like /dev/sd1, /dev/sd2 and so on which is quite absurd, the latter is unable to install grubDelivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: by 10.115.73.12 with SMTP id a12cs179585wal; Wed, 7 May 2008 15:42:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.89.4 with SMTP id m4mr1099729fgb.53.1210200169718; Wed, 07 May 2008 15:42:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from liszt.debian.org (liszt.debian.org [82.195.75.100]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id j10si4730178muh.2.2008.05.07.15.42.49; Wed, 07 May 2008 15:42:49 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of [EMAIL PROTECTED] designates 82.195.75.100 as permitted sender) client-ip=82.195.75.100; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of [EMAIL PROTECTED] designates 82.195.75.100 as permitted sender) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by liszt.debian.org (Postfix) with QMQP id 7E55713A5379; Wed, 7 May 2008 22:42:43 + (UTC) Old-Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on liszt.debian.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-17.0 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,LDOSUBSCRIBER, LDO_WHITELIST,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Original-To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-policyd-weight: DYN_NJABL=ERR NOT_IN_SBL_XBL_SPAMHAUS=-1.5 NOT_IN_BL_NJABL=-1.5 CL_IP_EQ_HELO_IP=-2 (check from: .networkingnewsletter. - helo: .tranquility.mcc. - helo-domain: .mcc.) FROM/MX_MATCHES_NOT_HELO(DOMAIN)=0 client=130.88.200.145 helo=tranquility.mcc.ac.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED], rate: -5 Received: from tranquility.mcc.ac.uk (tranquility.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.145]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by liszt.debian.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3186113A52EC for debian-user@lists.debian.org; Wed, 7 May 2008 22:42:16 + (UTC) Received: from rankine.its.manchester.ac.uk ([130.88.25.196]) by tranquility.mcc.ac.uk with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1JtsKz-0009hU-ER for debian-user@lists.debian.org; Wed, 07 May 2008 23:42:13 +0100 Received: from [93.96.3.203] (port=57094 helo=amd64.lan) by rankine.its.manchester.ac.uk with esmtpsa (SSLv3:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.43) id 1JtsKz-0004g4-6s for debian-user@lists.debian.org; Wed, 07 May 2008 23:42:13 +0100 Subject: gfortran Permission denied From: michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian user debian-user@lists.debian.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 23:42:13 +0100 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-Sender: Michael Bane from (amd64.lan) [93.96.3.203]:57094 X-Authenticated-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-UoM: Scanned by the University Mail System. See http://www.itservices.manchester.ac.uk/email/filtering/information/
Re: ircii question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Håkon Alstadheim wrote: s. keeling wrote: Jude DaShiell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What package or packages need to be installed so when I connect to an irc server I don't get the message Ident is disabled? pidentd I would also think something like inetd or xinetd would be good. Identd should not need to run all the time, letting (x)inetd fire it up as needed would be better. Hot tip: consider carefully how much you reveal about your machine through the ident service. Security through obscurity is now offically dead. If someone wants access to your box, because of the absurd bandwidth available to a cracker (botnet, anyone?), they'll just try every xploit in their db, regardless of it's compatibility with your alleged system. You might as well just have ident running, I forward 113 onto my fBSD machine, so my whole network appears to be 6.2-current (yes i'm too lazy to upgrade) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIIUhnLeTfO4yBSAcRAr7OAKChiweZOROjgttqCBxPgknofVLUnwCeNu0y mvn+hJTScF4jmG570RMpvqA= =uTPD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Kind of OT] Why's this look like gibberish to me?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 NN_il_Confusionario wrote: On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 10:20:32PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: The problem, if one exists, is what font the terminal is using sudo apt-get install xfonts-efont-unicode xfonts-efont-unicode-ib What about the linux console? I suspect that the answer will be that the linux console is right now not able to display at the same time eastern european, asiatic, arabic and hebrev characters (perhaps unless one uses someting experimental like uterm whose source seems to not be available at its homepage http://members.aceweb.com/hanpaul/ ). So the next question is: What is the combination of decent X-terminal and font (and screen resolution for X, and refresh rate) such that, when run in a window manager which is able to use full screen windoes (like ratpoison, icewm, evilwm and many others) looks the *same* as a linux (standard or framebuffer) console? I was never be able to find nor a decent terminal nor a decent (i.e. console like) font. (a terminal which uses gnome or kde libraries is not decent for my pourposes. gtk only or qt only might or might not be. xlib only surely is) Eterm sounds like what you're looking for... or xterm? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIIACNLeTfO4yBSAcRAtPQAKCD/0oqESYqbRMOvaxWUCLQ5/PU3ACgmv7s d5ly+KApvTqmHm2NlSFJbvY= =H38h -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Kind of OT] Why's this look like gibberish
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 NN_il_Confusionario wrote: * From: Rich Healey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eterm sounds like what you're looking for... or xterm? I have already tried all the debian x-terminal packages available since debian 1.1 (evenb the indecent ones). For my eyes the are all _MUCH_ worse than the linux console (and in any case their look is always very different from the console). But it might simply be that, despite my searches, I am not able to configure them. There's some insane key combination + right click for xterm that lets you configure it. I run X so that i can have 2 displays littered with xterms (most of them running screen), and honestly i prefer xterm to any other. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIIApCLeTfO4yBSAcRArN2AKCu1eFBHKdQIF3XDNj77zXSeHsPvQCffBsS 0nIx1l1CrBDcX1dxFpnlUao= =PoR4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: C++ programming: keeping count of data items read from file
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Allums wrote: H.S. wrote: Hello, In a C++ program I am reading a data file for later processing and computations. While reading that data file, I want to keep track of data items (doubles) read. The data file is just a text file with N lines with C doubles in each line (N and C are known a priori). For now, I just read from the file stream in to a 2D array variable by reading each double at a time. Now I am trying to introduce some sanity checking into this reading block. Here is what I am trying to do: 1. Verify how many doubles I have read in each line. Must be C. If they are not C, then the input file is corrupt. 2. Verify that the total number of data items are NxC. This is simple, I just keep a track of how many numbers I have read. So, how do I go about doing (1) above? I was thinking of somehow checking if I have reached the end of line somehow (EOL?) but haven't found a method to do so. All I have found is EOF. thanks, -HS Not directly helpful, but some suggestions: 1. You might want to learn PERL or Python or Ruby, and do it there. FWIW, this is very easy to do in Python. PSFWIW: Satan uses Ruby. 2. If it has to be C++, learn enough PERL to write a filter for the data file, and transform it so that it has one double per line. 3. Debug the data generator /in situ/ with a good debugger, and bypass the need to do the sanity checking. 4. Find a good C++ reference, and use it. There are several. Slightly more helpful: 1. Read one line at a time in as a string, then operate on the string. 2. C++ has the ability to do everything that C does in a low level way, but why? Use the C++ way, or use the C way: #include cstdio #include iostream . . . using namespace std; . . . ios::sync_with stdio(); . . . int blah = fscanf(somefile,%f %f %f %f\n, d1,d2,d3,d4); if (blah != correctvalue) { dosomething(); closefiles(); cout error in data file\n; exit(1); } . . . // etc. (The ios::sync_with_stdio(); line may differ slightly on different C++ implementations. I haven't used it in a while. May be spelled synch_. Too lazy to look it up. The fscanf line may just be wrong. I quit writing C programs years ago. Too old, memory failing.) Rich -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIIPOtLeTfO4yBSAcRAkvQAJ4v8ZhzTnupPjRRpkAQaiXxTzOpHgCgiHnv YmSOypexOxGn2ttCLl/YpaI= =vbdY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cannot remove Google maps sidebar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Cameron Hutchison wrote: When I visit Google maps (http://maps.google.com/) using either Epiphany or Iceweasel on my Debian sid system, I do not get the little triangle button in the map sidebar that collapses it. This only happens for me with Debian. On my systems with Ubuntu, google maps works as expected. Does anyone know why this may be happening? At a guess, one of the debian patches is breaking it. Try a binary release, or build you own and compare. Are you using FF2 or 3b? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIIPT/LeTfO4yBSAcRAtVEAJ0e3rcyO9dGNAEPjVYBq3ploayvTQCgiKBY b8XpuJZfKURFMluxh2Th4kA= =zu6L -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cannot remove Google maps sidebar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Cameron Hutchison wrote: Rich Healey wrote: Cameron Hutchison wrote: When I visit Google maps (http://maps.google.com/) using either Epiphany or Iceweasel on my Debian sid system, I do not get the little triangle button in the map sidebar that collapses it. This only happens for me with Debian. On my systems with Ubuntu, google maps works as expected. Does anyone know why this may be happening? At a guess, one of the debian patches is breaking it. Possibly. It is a little strange that the Ubuntu version works though, being based on the Debian version. Doesn't Ubuntu have FireFox with original branding? Try a binary release, or build you own and compare. I'd rather not do that. I prefer to keep to Debian packaged components. As a last ditch effort, I may try that to see if I can isolate the issue, but for now I'll see if anyone on the mailing list knows anything about this. I'm not suggesting you change over (although that might work), merely that you try a vanilla build from MSF to see if it's a debian patch that breaks it. Are you using FF2 or 3b? I am using Epiphany 2.22.1.1-1, and Iceweasel 2.0.0.14-2. These are the versions currently in Debian sid. I've had the problem since December last year (2007) when I re-installed Debian and dropped Ubuntu, so it is not something just introduced. Given that it's two browsers with only a distribution in common, I would say that there's a security patch that breaks it. Regards Rich Healey -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIIQB/LeTfO4yBSAcRAt9tAJ0TH8wtYLYcI6oyHOb1EfcIhR27DQCgt4+o sP9qyNN2xC0k/QYlR0XazIw= =C5AI -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cannot remove Google maps sidebar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Allums wrote: Cameron Hutchison wrote: When I visit Google maps (http://maps.google.com/) using either Epiphany or Iceweasel on my Debian sid system, I do not get the little triangle button in the map sidebar that collapses it. This only happens for me with Debian. On my systems with Ubuntu, google maps works as expected. Does anyone know why this may be happening? Is there any usage of Flash in Google Maps? If so, could be a Flash issue. Trying it in Lenny now...no Windows FF3b5 yes Windows IE7yes Lenny IceWeasel 2.0.0.14 no Lenny Epiphany 2.20.3 no kubuntu FF3b5 yes kubuntu Konquerer yes Interesting! Is it a mozilla/gecko-1.8 thing, a gnome thing, a javascript thing, or what? It's not just sid, lenny is not right either. I think you'll find that lenny and sid have the same iceweasel. And this still all points to the debian patches. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIIQQJLeTfO4yBSAcRAp/bAJ0R7h7cA2RX5CqCQWas8ULVr+CygQCdH8qV Iiqbhd/xjOJ8Je7GCBJQbF0= =pyZ1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Issue with VMware (2)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Doug Mitton wrote: (Sorry, repost due to error.) On Mon, 05 May 2008 20:10:14 +0200, you wrote: Hey all, So I installed VMware server, had to use the any-any update for I use the 2.6.24 kernel and when I try to run it, it says that same message as before running the vmware-conifig.pl tool. I also tried VMware Workstation trial, and that didn't work either. I tried running vmware-config.pl after running the any-any update several times, and I get the same message. Does anyone know what might be the problem? Thanks in advance []s Hi; For the 2.6.24 kernel you should use the a version of any-any from: http://rtr.ca/vmware-2.6.24/ Also, there was an exploit found in the 2.6.24 kernel, you should be using 2.6.24.2 as a minimum: http://forums.theplanet.com/index.php?showtopic=89616 http://www.milw0rm.com/exploits/5093 Good luck! Wow, there are places you just don't expect milw0rm to pop up, and d-u is one of them! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIIRTjLeTfO4yBSAcRAoa+AKC8/uB6QLoyU3NIHT51F/DMpknA/wCgz0OD s4ZlCS5FZN0oIlgK8qpVrjA= =xZRS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Clearing SWAP
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Cartwright wrote: On Fri May 2 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: If they float and are not ducks ... nor made of wood, then they must be ... ? Positively buoyant non-wooden non-ducks. Or witches. hey, wait, **I** can float! especially in salt water:) but not with my laptop on my lap! But you're a wooden duck, so you're safe. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIIRtULeTfO4yBSAcRAjd2AJ99I9ACbEUjUOMKoxpzdX2xGY45VwCfQ+kK wAFjcu2Ffr/BxhVpZwR73YI= =6C2F -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Editing C with...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Emilio Perea wrote: On Wed, May 07, 2008 at 10:46:33AM +1000, Rich Healey wrote: for the record, it's VERY broken in Vista. running edit in cmd or powershell, gives, |=== |16 bit MS-DS Subsytem |x| |=== | |Windows PowerShell |NTVDM has encountered a system Error |The Specified service does not exist |Choose Close to Terminate the application = |Close | Ignore | |== Although I've never had to deal with Vista, previous versions of Windows had a Resource Kit available which includes vi. With some Vista versions you can install SUA (Subsystem for UNIX Applications) which includes tcsh and ksh with vi (packages for vim, emacs and other editors are also available). Even with straight Windows it makes no sense to use Microsoft's shells when JPSoft's are available. i'm installed the subsystem for unix, always wondered what it actually does.. Anyway, i use gvim for editing on windows (i use vista in a vm for work). I'm going to have a look for this now (I saw that a package with unix in it's name ages ago that seemed to imply it'd run ELF binaries, but it didn't so i gave up). -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIISpmLeTfO4yBSAcRAng1AKDfJf8R7B6NmEj0+HQDM+5/2995DACgxbls nRBPu3w5VFYhdpR9OEbIapU= =PpdJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: JFS / Unsupported file systems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alex Samad wrote: On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 01:19:15AM -0500, Hose wrote: On Apr 28, 2008, at 7:22 PM, Alex Samad wrote: On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 07:17:56PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:16:12PM -0500, Hose wrote: [snip] some reason that xfs is not being talked about? You know I'm not sure. I vaguely recall xfs being really bad with unclean unmounts (moreso than most other filesystems) and it's performance has not kept up with the newer stuff, but I probably should look into again (unless someone says NO IS HORRIBLE!). I actually use it personally on a few external drives, but nothing extensive. I have started to use it for holding large files avi etc, it seems to be a lot faster when manipulating these files, deletes etc. But i do have a ups attached to the machine hose perhaps i should switch my downloads partition over. Rich -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIFsAHLeTfO4yBSAcRAqHaAJ94yeKRfqRW6Lg0LvBlm2I+HaCPHACgiufs 0gc/LrsSJmjvhXZbcAl3E2U= =sZkv -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Notebook Latitude D630 don't shutdown properly after update
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kevin Mark wrote: On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 07:02:35PM +, Marcelo wrote: Kevin Mark kevin.mark at verizon.net writes: Have you tried booting with the last kernel version and checking if this fixes the issue? Yes! I had been installed the kernel 2.6.22 and the problem persist! Marcelo Just to be clear: a) booting with the old kernel fixes the problem b) both the old and new kernel do not work -K He has said twice that the .22 kernel does not solve the problem. On the offchance you could build a .18 from etch's sources to see what happens, but it's unlikely. More likely, check your /etc/fstab to make sure it's not thinking that there is something to umount there. If a system doesn't halt (x) seconds after shutdown begins, eventually init cracks it and kills everything vuilently. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIF/73LeTfO4yBSAcRAr/iAJ0VKG08nnf3KW0omByzs2qFPfGXRwCcDUtk 0Yzj0+NVPvdwH8/Edyk5+yY= =ffXU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian crash randomly
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: On 28/04/2008, Micha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually i recommend sid to everyone except for servers where stable is more suitable. You must enjoy debugging a lot, then. Sid really *is* unstable, like its name sounds, and like we can witness with Mond and with me. Newer software is hardly ever necessary. For the fabled desktop use, stable is pretty good (websurfing, MSFT office documents, chatting, multimedia), and there is no way I'm installing anything but stable on grandma's machine. Stable doesn't crash, it does what it's supposed to do, and it gives free software a good name. Backports are rarely necessary, and if there is a user savvy enough to know that they want something newer than what's in stable, I recommend them to try a backport, and if that doesn't work, then to compile from source. Otherwise, I really question why do they need newer software. Hardware compatibility is a different issue. If they have hardware that's too new for the etch kernels, then I will recommend testing, with many reservations. But I don't recommend unstable to anyone unless they're willing to tolerate the occasional crash and possible data loss. This is Debian's official position too regarding the three distributions. The unstable distribution is where active development of Debian occurs. Generally, this distribution is run by developers and those who like to live on the edge. Debian newbies presumably don't want to live on the edge. Debian also recommends that you run stable, and they don't make a distinction between running stable on servers or on desktops. I run testing most of the time, with the occasional non-critical unstable package, but that's because I like bugs. :-) When I can, I will poke around the source code to see if I can find why a particular piece of software is segfaulting. - Jordi G. H. But how does the distribution advance if *NOONE* runs testing/unstable? I run 4 Debian boxes at the moment, 2 sid, 1 testing, 1 stable. The stable box is with my mother, I really doubt the lack of features bothers her, and is handy for when i want to see what's in etch. The testing machine is my laptop for work, which I need more features for, but don't need the regular breakages of sid (and yes, when things do hit the fan, i just install the working update with dpkg from the sid repos, and then let that advance sink into the background). Then i have 2 desktops which run sid, on different archtypes, and give me basis for comparison, and a chance to play with the latest and greatest, although i still wind up building a lot of svn and cvs code. Regards Rich Healey -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIFnYILeTfO4yBSAcRAjPbAKDMjh4Jb2JBMZcPeu9Yfkn0ORN8ygCbB19I 8VqlEeA/jiTEtaA7pDn8+6E= =ExVu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian crash randomly
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: On 28/04/2008, Rich Healey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But how does the distribution advance if *NOONE* runs testing/unstable? Oh, it's great that people are running both of those, and I run them too, but we're essentially beta testers. I do my best to send timely bug reports when I can, or be as generally helpful as possible, with occasional ideas on what to do to the source when I know what to do. It's just not something that non-experts should o. The stable box is with my mother, [snip] The testing machine is my laptop for work, [snip] Then i have 2 desktops which run sid, on different archtypes, and give me basis for comparison, This sounds like a completely reasonable setup to me, and is very close to what I do too. My mom is also getting stable because she still has a hard time using a mouse or figuring out the window and desktop metaphor. Yesterday I taught her how to drag and drop files. :-) - Jordi G. H. Jordi, I'm glad someone out there agrees with me. While i'd never run anything except stable on a production server, I can't get my head around zealots with a testing and sid are evilbadscary attitude. Hell, if i'm really in the mood for it i do a dist-upgrade to experimental just to see what breaks. Actually, there's a lot of cool stuff in there come to think of it. All of my machines except the stable one have some (many have lots) of stuff from experimental installed, mainly because where i can i prefer to have -dev packages than libraries that i've built manually, while i keep an eye on the projects that I build from code repos, i tend to forget to update my libraries. Regards Rich Healey -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIFnuGLeTfO4yBSAcRAs2tAKCBnd33ZxNxQcBL20s8cy3Cb/hSzQCfXgxi 0hXPbi/VzCh18GVUHBXvRpU= =JZth -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Force process to swap?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Is there a way to tell kswapd that i wan't a particular process to get shoved into swap? I run a torrent client 24/7 (in many ways it would just be easier to mirror a whole bunch of distro iso's, but oh well).. Anyway, it tends to consume between 30 and 50% of my system's physical memory, which wouldn't matter, except that it tends to push firefoxen into swap, while nearly always staying in memory itself. I can probably alter the torrent clients settings a bit to reign it in, but honestly, the disk with my swap partition is pretty quick, and i would think totally adequate to let it download/upload files from. Is there some way of forcing this? Cheers Rich Healey -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIECoPLeTfO4yBSAcRAnCAAJ93DOUzLQioT73I2bEqsU61iOxVSgCfaxrq 8qRdJlSygMZXjOAvD9b7t5g= =YoVE -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] openWRT (was: 2 ISPs ( 2 gateways) and a Debian Box)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 biaAlex Samad wrote: [snip] I would also suggest make the adsl modem (routers?) in bridged mode and firewall up the debian box and do it all there. Similiar to what I have done. The only difference right now is i use openwrt (linux distro for linksys wrt54gs routers) Will openWRT (or anything else for that matter!) run on a wrt54G (not S)? that you know of? google has turned up naut so far. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIEByxLeTfO4yBSAcRAgJMAJ9TXetbSH3Kdv6fi4QcPH/x6xHUQQCeKoUV tt3ugkbW9w1mBunsl3+xA4o= =HXI7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: External IP
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lee Glidewell wrote: On Tuesday 22 April 2008 10:12:41 pm Rafael Fontenelle wrote: I can see that you're running behind a router or something similar. If you want to use a shell script to return the IP to the stdout, you could probably use 'curl'. I have this feeling that my last response to this thread never made it through or something. ;) curl *definitely* works with shell scripts, and like I pointed out, www.whatismyip.org (not .com) is specifically designed for tools such as curl. Running that URL as the argument for curl will return only the current machine's public IP address, with no extra formatting or HTML messiness. Thus, it is the ideal way of getting this output cleanly. It can even be used as input, e.g.: nmap $(curl www.whatismyip.org) Lee My site is now back up. http://www.psychotik.info/ip.php Was lazy, did it in php. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIDsiILeTfO4yBSAcRAvxxAJ0cg2SS04kUqPeSNOYHk92AnV4cIQCfejOm luz4swnsiXfwQFPeYp6a2BY= =ohCX -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: External IP
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rafael asked for source.. So my stroke of genius follows... [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/public_html]$ cat ip.php ?PHP print ($_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR']) ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/public_html]$ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIDsvaLeTfO4yBSAcRAo9CAJ0bmXoFJGTByCHjSypWPL+qdS1YlQCeJBwX XfxyhFjEYMaLhxtx3C+Bc2s= =L1LC -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrating to 64 bit...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:32:26PM -0500, Sam Leon wrote: Could one easily upgrade to an amd64 system just by formating /, reinstalling with the proper arch, and then reinstalling all the apps that were installed and hopefully all the conf files in /home/user will be compatible with the arch change of kde and other apps? (of course I am only talking about if you have /home and a separate partition) Only formatting / will only work if you don't have a separte /usr or /var... I run amd64 Etch and have an i386 chroot for iceweasel with flash. Prior to that I had i386 Sarge on a different box. The configs in /home worked just fine. I always migrate /etc by hand when I do a new install. Doug. I have iceweasel + flash running native on amd64. it's not adobe's flash, but it works. In fact, i really like the fact that i have to click play to actually download and run the .swf .. saves noise and bandwidth :) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIBrzuLeTfO4yBSAcRAhOMAJ0dgBKcEEw0ifkI2rVJCpdvikUQ2gCfTgf/ YbsduOkvaiZ8BOPCFxiY0EA= =O4VB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: checking life of battery?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: 1) Is there any way to check the life of a battery on a Dell Inspiron 6400 E1505? I am using Debian Etch. 2) How to find out the number of cells in the battery? The manual says it can be 6-cell smart lithium ion or 9-cell lithium ion. But I am not sure which one I have. $pwd /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0 $cat alarm alarm: 480 mAh $cat info present: yes design capacity: 4800 mAh last full capacity: 64548 mAh battery technology: rechargeable design voltage: 11100 mV design capacity warning: 480 mAh design capacity low: 145 mAh capacity granularity 1: 48 mAh capacity granularity 2: 48 mAh model number: DELLRD8576 serial number: 688 battery type:LION OEM info:Sony $cat state present: yes capacity state: ok charging state: charged present rate:1 mA remaining capacity: 64548 mAh present voltage: 11947 mV thanks raju I'll find my screen backtick for just this if you want. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIBr1ZLeTfO4yBSAcRApvAAJ4wngzUEEZvWXKXyPRtrTHvLPyewgCeJWVT PE+E3eHnkVS3t+KPTR17d4k= =Mez6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: what scripting language to learn?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 03:23:57AM +0200, s. keeling wrote: I strongly agree, and this knowledge is portable. All of the *nix tools, including shell, perl, and python, rely on regex understanding. One can get along just fine in python without using regex. I'm living proof. Sure, the regex module lets you do neat one-liners, but I hate one-liners especially when I'm tired. Doug. I use python all day every day, and rarely if ever use the re module. Most of the same stuff can be done with python's (awesome) string libs. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIBsuPLeTfO4yBSAcRAqTlAJ4t6tCEK30ES3NYVlq26BK3LCEh+QCfb10H E48+Z8RggulyR627FCA67xE= =1YK4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Read-only root (/) except /et
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Digby Tarvin wrote: On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 07:30:55PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: snip The trouble is that isn't really true. As long as you have standard utilities like 'passwd' and 'chsh' normal users can cause the root filesystem to be modified any time they want.. No. The user isn't modifying anything really, its the suid utility which is. User's don't have write permission on the /etc/passwd file. The only security concern is if the suid utility is replaced by another; in other words, again root is compromised. Well sure, when a user modifies somethign it always boils down to a progrma doing it on the users behalf. The important point is that the user can invoke such a change at any time. The suid file only restricts the nature of the chance. That means that in a standard config the root filesystem cannot be made read-only without braeaking things, preventing one possible security enhancing stategy. And in the examples I gave (running root off a DVD or drive with hardware write protect), a remount rw will only succeed in getting write failures logged So root turns off logging to. If we're talking about running off a DVD then this is a LiveCD scenario with union mounting. so the worst case is a remount gains an infiltrator nothing if the filesystem non-writeability is enforced via hardware. And yes, I think a LiveCD is a very good example of the sort of hoops you have to jump through to have some of the root filesystem content run off read-only media. But it isn't just security. It is another file system needing regular backup, and fewer writes means less likelihood of corruption eg if power goes off at the wrong instant.. Well sure, that makes sense. However, the only part that needs the backup is /etc/ anyway, which would need backup if it was separate, so no gain there. The /etc on a separate filesystem was the suggestion of the original poster. Its not a solution that achieves my ideal of having only one system and one user filesystem that have to be read/write. As for e.g. corruption, I'd suggest having a duplicate root filesystem taken care of by a script (which checks somehow that all is well) which rsyncs them. This second root fs would be on its own partition with its own entry in the boot loader. This suggests that /boot is on its own partition and it is very easy to have /boot ro. Exactly what I am doing now on my bsd system: skaro:/usr/home/digbyt mount /dev/wd0a on / (NFS exported, local) /dev/wd0h on /usr (NFS exported, local, read-only) /dev/wd0g on /var (local) /dev/wd0f on /usr/local (NFS exported, local, nodev, read-only) /dev/wd0e on /usr/home (NFS exported, local) /dev/wd0d on /user1 (local, nodev, nosuid, read-only) /dev/wd1h on /backup/usr (local, nodev, nosuid, read-only) /dev/wd1f on /backup/local (local, nodev, nosuid, read-only) /dev/wd1d on /backup/user1 (local, nodev, nosuid, read-only) localhost:/cfs/null on /cfs/crypt /dev/wd1a on /backup/root (local, nodev, nosuid, read-only) /dev/wd1g on /backup/var (local, nodev, nosuid, read-only) /dev/wd1e on /backup/home (local, nodev, nosuid, read-only) Note that all my live partitions are rsync'd with identical partitions on the backup disk every night, and by default all except home, var and root are read-only. The backup scripts know that they only have to backup live partitions that are read-write, and to remount the backup filesystems read-write during the procedure. If I do need to chance something on, for example, /usr/local, I remount it and leave it read/write. The backup scripts will see that it is r/w, back it up, and then make it read-only again when they finish so that it won't be backed up again till I repeat the process. User1 lets me arhive static user files in a way that leaves them accessible without making work for the backup scripts. If it were not for root, then there would be no writeable filesystem with suid and dev enabled. And of course if root could be mounted read-only, that would be one less filesystem that needed to be scanned for differences every night. There is also a big saving in boot time if there is a crash, because only filesystems mounted r/w will be dirty and need preening. The files that are a problem are the ones where either a change can result from user activity (passwrd/shadow) or where they are changed by demons, such as resolv.conf. I don't mind explicit changes by the administrator, who can take care or write-protects or reburning media. I'd suggest to approach it as a live CD thingy, its a well tried path. Anything else is frought with dragons. Sure. I didn't mean to hijack the topic. Its just something I have thought about and experimented with, so wanted to add my 2p worth to the original posters suggestion/query. Regards, DigbyT It seems you want to install *BSD and just flag most of your configuration
Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/10/08 13:51, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 04:04:30PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/06/08 15:51, Paul Johnson wrote: On Sunday 06 April 2008 05:03:13 am Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/06/08 02:20, Nate Duehr wrote: [snip] What a deal! I bet ALL of the concerned parents will be sending BOTH the difference in their original taxes in 2006 and their rebate checks straight to the education system. (Rolling eyes.) Yes, I'm sure we will. With gas at .gt. US$3/gal and milk at .gt. US$4/gal Wow, sucks to be you... I can't remember a time where milk has been more than $3/gal even during a shortage... It *is* a pain. Friends in Western NY also say that milk about $3/gal. Come on guys, it's not fair. You are complaining about 3$/gal for milk and gas? What about Europe, where we pay 1EUR/litre (and more) !!! According to qalc and current exchange rates: ~$ qalc 1 EUR / litre to USD / gallon (1 * euro) / liter = approx. 6.0093412($ / gal) And according to a Brit friend in France, it's $8.15/gal in Toulouse. But something's got to be cheaper in Europe... pfft. i pay $1.60 AUD a litre for diesel. Petrol prices ar buggered everywhere.. which makes me wonder.. why iraq? wasn't freedom.. and based on evidence sure as bloody hell wasn't oil! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH/63uLeTfO4yBSAcRAswxAJ9ZNOaDJYS41MLFEGpzTvfS1OlUkQCgjT0G cfdFmkzHxU+zTZvwKjkumQk= =5nPb -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TR: How to verify package integrity after they have been downloaded?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Johannes Wiedersich wrote: [Redirecting to debian-user, because this has nothing to do with debian-security] Julien Stuby wrote on 2008-04-07 22:15: Please try not to break threads. Julien Stuby wrote on 2008-04-7 at 21:54 UTC+1 : No problems, I will try. Thanks, it worked already. How to make this right with the world time zone? We will use the UTC format ? As a user I never had to worry about the time format of my mails. Threads are preserved by 'replying' to a message instead of composing a new one. Advanced mail readers have a 'reply to list' function in order not to send private duplicates. The mail I am now replying to has the following lines within the header: ... and yet it's in a new thread... - - - - - - - - - From: Julien Stuby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - - - - - The References and In-Reply-To part track the ID of the message, so that the software knows about the thread. -- Julien Johannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH+xYMLeTfO4yBSAcRAvv2AJ437ZKZHiDkhHJtcCyr/fF/IZS2TgCfY8RH /giOtD+H20vC0LOLSFLxhwc= =jWrV -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Remove package from apt's db
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 NN_il_Confusionario wrote: On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 11:47:44AM +1000, Rich Healey wrote: I've installed skype, had to force it to ignore dependencies (long story.. anyway, i do have qt4's libs, and skype does work) I would NOT remove skype from the dpkg database /var/lib/dpkg/status I would use equivs (or manual editing of /var/lib/dpkg/status /var/lib/dpkg/info/$PAKAGENAME.list , but you must _exactly_ know what you are doing) to say that dependencies are installed. In desperate case where dependencies are wrongly declared (like installing opera on sarge) a manual editing of /var/lib/dpkg/status to correctly declare the dependencies makes sense. I _DO_ know what i'm doing (not arrogance or anger). I'm used to building systems from scratch, I have _A_ set of qt libs, and skype works fine, it's just not the set that apt feels i should have. Kind Regards Rich Healey -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH+cNVLeTfO4yBSAcRAi9zAJ9193mQ59DKgepcG5gZz6/1/TwvEwCghR+F vmd6s1iBOdwIlbV2C0Uwmwc= =Q611 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: grep trick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Bird wrote: On Mon April 7 2008 16:03:28 Chris Bannister wrote: export GREP_COLOR=33 alias grep='grep --colour=always' This will break any scripts which assume that the output of grep has not been annotated with color escape sequences. --Mike Bird Those scripts will not load his .bashrc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH+rqwLeTfO4yBSAcRAhUUAJ4w8quP1kk2SS1vdD//MzrEe1DSkACaA5CO tQzvjONgi0Pb2HsBgFc9034= =62Bo -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: vncserver automation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jim Pazarena wrote: I am having trouble getting vncserver to automatically start after a reboot. It seems that setting a script in rc.5 doesn't work. signing on to the CLI after a boot, and it starts up fine. (executing vncserver on the CLI as root). I am not sure the reason. Is it because the script must be run by root? Or perhaps even as the last item in rc.5, some other 'x' thing hasn't been set yet? Suggestions would be much appreciated... I'm, struggling. Jim have you changed your default runlevel to 5? debian defaults to 2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH+sFxLeTfO4yBSAcRAuayAKCdpLpLpOBa4+ySYfN5F7OewhbW9ACfbp46 1ubp0T2lqvpb75bx801kQeQ= =Vd/f -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Remove package from apt's db
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've installed skype, had to force it to ignore dependencies (long story.. anyway, i do have qt4's libs, and skype does work) But now apt won't upgrade, it complains about skype's missing libs. Can i remove skype from apt's db without removing it? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH+X0/LeTfO4yBSAcRApUPAJ9DqXhj3BZMO4V9ibSx7E3pShEuBgCgog7x V+vv/EVbW1g0jISUs2P9tDs= =GIWW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT Tangent to the plane] Elitism...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Walters wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: | On 04/03/08 19:19, Chris Walters wrote: | Ron Johnson wrote: | | On 04/03/08 15:39, Ivan Savcic wrote: | | On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] | wrote: | snip | | That smells of elitism. (Not that I mind...) | | No, it's just you can't have all. It's a matter of compromise. A pick | | two game, if you wish. And Debian simply can't please everyone. The | | point is, why be bothered by that? Debian set it's goals and a | | corresponding target group was gathered around them. And a good one, | | if you ask me. | | | | Because it's elitist to not want to please all the people all the | | time... | | No, it is elitist to say, Debian is the only good distribution, the | only truly | GNU/Linux distribution worth having. All others are for the uneducated | masses, | who don't care about being right. We are smarter and better than they are, | because we choose Debian - all hail the mighty Debian! | | That would be elitist. | | So if I chant that 24 times before bed every night and 24 more times | when I wake up, that's a bad thing??? Nah, that is not a bad thing. A little odd, maybe, but not bad. The Debian, has room for all, The Debian IS all, join The Debian now... Funny... i never noticed how well Debian rhymes with Cult :P -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH9YVeLeTfO4yBSAcRAjniAJ9RMQqhyr/kpmCwYUXok3FdBTXicwCdEQ67 Ol0aMQ/AcI00n931c/zVVsQ= =JZRP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What are these folders in home?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dotan Cohen wrote: I am cleaning our $HOME and I was wondering what these directories and files are: ~/.fullcircle/ (I know it is the mozilla feedback agent. I use Tbird and Firefox. Can I erase this anyway?) ~/.java/ (java is a system-wide app, no? Can I erase this? I use OpenOffice, which I know has a java dependency) personal settings for java ~/.mcop/ ~/.metacity/ ~/.wapi/ ~/.crash_report_checksum ~/.crash_report_frames ~/.crash_report_preview ~/..DCOPserver_feisty-laptop__0 ll of these are the KDE process interaction server ~/..DCOPserver_feisty-laptop_:0 ~/..DCOPserver_feisty-laptop__1 ~/..DCOPserver_feisty-laptop_:1 ~/.dmrc ~/.esf_auth ~/.fishsrv.pl The kde SMBFS frontend ~/.glivrc ~/.ICEauthority ~/.lpoptions ~/.msoprc ~/.odbc.ini database settings ~/.rnd random seed ~/.Xauthority Settings for usermode creation of Xservers ~/.xsession-errors (this one is 98 MB) ... the errors from you\r xsessions...? :P Thanks in advance. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? ... you could probably just google themm.. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH8JTbLeTfO4yBSAcRAt6dAJ9UavQPNxuIFOaBqIC7yuCL5kpaYgCgtOs1 YdZlX1o0IFoP/bWHTOAb7Po= =7j3b -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to reset desktop env. config?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 H.S. wrote: Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: paragasu wrote: AFAIK, you can delete all files in $HOME directory. especially the hidden files. the worst you will get is you lost some setting of the program. But you can login just fine. One has to be careful. For example, Kmail (from KDE) uses .kde to store all the mail. If some one deletes the .kde directory thinking that it is just a bunch of rc files they would be in for a nice surprise. raju I have encountered the soft reset situation many times: I wanted to start over with a particular desktop, KDE or Gnome. I usually do this: 1. log out from the window manager 2. kill all my files in /tmp 3. kill all relevant hidden directories in $HOME/ (e.g. .kde*, .gnome*, .gconf* and such). 4. Log in to the window manager. It starts configuration from scratch. Now, I do not use Kmail, just Thunderbird and mutt. I know where they save their email. And now I learn that kmail saves its data in .kde. I hope a user using Kmail knows this. But then, the question is, what is the right way to start over using a desktop environment above? Is there a soft reset for window managers and desktop env.? thanks, -HS Depends on the window manager, obviously, for example i use E, the various subdirectories of ~/.e are pretty obvious about what's in them, it doesn't take long to go through and hose just the right bits, and then you can restart E without even closing all your windows :) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH8XoFLeTfO4yBSAcRAmljAJ91ofcjhp4CsDXHcOW0L+Qehf8RAACeKEgQ jSIQoxR9GjGPIisL2ug/SxE= =7sRH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: number of users accessing a wireless network
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: My current network configuration is ISP -- wireless router --- comp1 --- comp2 --- comp3 The wireless router is wrt54g. The computers might be running Debian, M$ etc., Is it possible to figure out the number of users and IP addresses of active connections served by the router? thanks raju put them all in the same subnet (ie 192.168.0.128-255) and then nmap -sS - -PN 192.168.0.128/25 | grep [uU][Pp] OR! Go into the 54g's wireless setup and read it's dhcp leases. This all assumes that they use dhcp. If you install a wrt based distro on the router ou can get a little but more. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH8GSxLeTfO4yBSAcRAgkRAKDK2ejtQH2wrNuI62n/e4Gbbjmk5ACfW9C4 QE0cp3lsCO1++Y9DFQJHd7U= =UhA4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] Old Laptop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 02:38:32PM +1100, Rich Healey wrote: 9.2 was the only version i ever used (and didn't totally hate), it was the only distro that everything worked off the bat with my ancient laptop, debian with 99% of the system modified was quite good though, now i'm playing with gentoo.. will likely go back to debian sid though. Try OpenBSD unmodified on your ancient laptop. It will probably work out of the box. Doug. Thanks doug. I've actually been looking into getting a BSD box to use as a desktop, I might try that if this gentoo install falls through. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH7vUkLeTfO4yBSAcRAn1iAKDcLMme5RWgz0ZpWiKrGAbGQJ0WuQCgzwqG mfbYUDPz8I7EmE4VjZEsOcA= =Tl3y -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: want to speed up laptop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Bannister wrote: On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 09:12:06AM -0500, Preston Boyington wrote: Chris Bannister wrote: snipped Where are your bottlenecks? currently my two biggest bottlenecks are with the networking and the MTA. i installed ifplugd and set a faster timeout for the network and that has helped. i don't really need a MTA for my laptop and will be looking for some alternative. have thought about just removing Exim and dealing with whatever dependency issues arise. i can always just look at the log files for info if i need to. I think that is a DNS lookup issue. I altered the link from /bin/sh to point to /bin/dash instead of /bin/bash but I'm not sure if I got a big improvement. It seems reasonably fast though. :-) i have been using zsh recently and it has worked pretty well so far. No, the shell *you* use is determined by the line in /etc/passwd. What I meant was the shell used to execute the initscripts. What does: # ls -al /bin/sh produce? If it comes back as pointing to /bin/bash then try pointing /bin/sh to /bin/dash and see if there is any improvement. installing dash first would probably be an idea. I could be wrong, but i don't believe it comes in a stock install. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH7vbsLeTfO4yBSAcRApcsAKCnfURHOBRpUYE8ArCC840IoG/KjACgjxis E2rl7Oeb3T9uvsZ8Auc0zV0= =isQc -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: open-ssh keypair Auth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bonnel Christophe wrote: I had a similar problem several months ago. I go to /etc/ssh/ssh_config (on your franskenstein machine, not the server) and verify that you have PasswordAuthentication no Hope this helps Christophe Rich Healey a écrit : Hi, i've got a whole bunch of linux machines (mainly debian, with etch, testing, sid, and a frankenstein machine with mental pinning). Keypairs work fine except on the frankenstein machine, with the same keypair as works on my sid machine, my freeBSD machine, my gentoo box and etch desktop, it still asks for my password. Ideas? Thanks guys Rich Healey Thanks Bonnel, The problem was lax permissions on my home directory though, openSsh cleverly realised that any clown with samba/nfs/whatever access could add his public key :) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH7Ip9LeTfO4yBSAcRAu9eAJ0Wu8xVm8IVns9cpx2lJ4AH9wIbOgCfcw+j 2skO/v7AkgyN823ZnZH5FbI= =wWtH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: iBook multimedia keys and KDE
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ansgar Burchardt wrote: Hi, I recently switched from GNOME to KDE on my iBook G4, but don't know how to get the multimedia keys working. They worked fine under GNOME, but under KDE only the monitor brightness keys work, albeit with no visual feedback. I tried assigning global shortcuts in kcontrol, but the keys are not recognized. Any ideas where to look? Regards, Ansgar Maybe have a play with xbindkeys ? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH7CsgLeTfO4yBSAcRAlkiAJkBnkcXpbXhnxqD1auxD2fe81EDiQCeOga1 583ga2C2jzTTyxp+kEUmXo4= =x2sh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
open-ssh keypair Auth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, i've got a whole bunch of linux machines (mainly debian, with etch, testing, sid, and a frankenstein machine with mental pinning). Keypairs work fine except on the frankenstein machine, with the same keypair as works on my sid machine, my freeBSD machine, my gentoo box and etch desktop, it still asks for my password. Ideas? Thanks guys Rich Healey -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH7C+ELeTfO4yBSAcRAgexAKCaIOucQg+MLhWI6CowUF+93bfXjQCbBA9M /WEItaE+fSjrbwPaMcrNbgg= =7uO4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: open-ssh keypair Auth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jeff D wrote: Rich Healey wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, i've got a whole bunch of linux machines (mainly debian, with etch, testing, sid, and a frankenstein machine with mental pinning). Keypairs work fine except on the frankenstein machine, with the same keypair as works on my sid machine, my freeBSD machine, my gentoo box and etch desktop, it still asks for my password. Ideas? Thanks guys Rich Healey First things I would check would be file permissions on ~/.ssh (700) and ~/.ssh/authorized_keys (600) on the remote host and check /etc/ssh/sshd_config for PubkeyAuthentication yes These are all ok. Default debian install normally alows this and i have not changed the config -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH7DT4LeTfO4yBSAcRAnt7AJ9HebAJ/2xxIoshKyNec6pl2FnpBQCgxAhX gqwY7yC7E7ivu3aS5PMJgYE= =tMhO -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I would like to give my congradulation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daniel Burrows wrote: On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 05:46:43PM -0600, Walt L. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: Was 10.1 bad? I wouldn't know. I went straight from 10.0, which was a fairly decent system, to 10.3. Although, the day I read the announcement of SuSE's buy out I got the feeling they wouldn't last long. American corporate ethics are really pretty poor these days. It's almost like they teach this form of bad conduct in the schools of business. After it came out that Enron had been cooking the books for years and the company imploded, I remember hearing an interview on NPR with a professor of business ethics at a business school. She said something to the effect that the Enron scandal showed that we needed to teach business students to implement proper document retention practices (meaning: destroy old incriminating documents so the investigators can't catch you). As far as I can tell from current events, business ethics have not improved since. Daniel 9.2 was the only version i ever used (and didn't totally hate), it was the only distro that everything worked off the bat with my ancient laptop, debian with 99% of the system modified was quite good though, now i'm playing with gentoo.. will likely go back to debian sid though. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH7GgpLeTfO4yBSAcRAkY/AJoCVxFcofWC00rh3DdVuJzY4M2Y4wCdGUSq D44KRXCIvqjCG1NtwW4khH4= =Q5Th -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tunnel iceweasel?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joost Witteveen wrote: On 24/03/2008, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 11:46:56AM +0100, Joost Witteveen wrote: On 23/03/2008, Rich Healey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to tunnel an iceweasel instance via ssh from one of my boxes at my house to remember the name of an add-on i installed. The problem is that i create a ssh session (ssh -XC ssh.psychotik.info), login and run iceweasel at the bash prompt, which takes forever, but then finally *opens a local iceweasel!!!* I suppose that iceweasel -P uniqueprofilename would do what you want? Also, it's *much* faster use vnc (tunnel through ssh): on the remote host, start: vnc4server on your localhost, start (and login to) ssh -L 5900:server:5901 server and then on the localhost (different window) vncviewer localhost:5900 The 5901 portnumer is assuming the vncserver opens a X11 screen on :1. When I start epiphany diretly over X11, it takes about 30 min to show a page; when I do it using VNC as above, it takes seconds. I run iceweasel over ssh all the time, however, I don't have it installed locally so there's no local version to run. It may take a few seconds to give the initial window, but then it displays as fast as the box can swap. The network is 100 MB/s ethernet, the box I'm sitting at is a P-II with 64 MB ram, the box I'm sshing into to run iceweasel is an AMD Athlon64 with 1 GB ram. It doesn't even take 30 minutes to show a page when I ssh from my 486 with 32 MB ram so something is wrong there. Why would VNC be faster if both are encrypted? No, over a 100Mb/s ethernet, running iceweasel over VNC probably wouldn't be much faster than directly over ssh (and running over an ssh-tunneled VNC connection would of course be slower than straigt VNC). But the OP complained iceweasel was very slow. So I suppose he didn't run it over a direct 100Mb/s connection, but over something slower, probably with larger ping times, ping times of 10-30 ms are enough to make it slow, and with slow, I mean that it can take over 20 min for iceweasel to even start showing the home page. I notice that when that happens, starting iceweasel on the remote site on a VNC X server an watching the output via a VNC viewer is a lot faster. And a lot here means just a couple of seconds to show the home page, instead of 20 min. As the OP reported using ssh, I assumed he didn't want to connect unencrypted (somethign VNC as far as I know does), so I suggested using an ssh tunnel. Hi, the issue here isn't the speed, and besides, i prefer to have it directly connected to my Xserver, rather than runnign in VNC. The point here isn't eh startup time though, it's that it starts a local iceweasel! In trying to build FF from source on my new 64 bit machine i accidentally wound up with a ff3 beta, but running that now also opens iceweasel. Somehow the binary has managed to associate EVERYTHING with itself. The real thing that does my head in is when i launch FF on another box.. it still creates a local iceweasel? this should happen AFAIK.. my starting a command on that box via should not be able to cause commands to be run on my local? Does this constitute a security issue? i'll see if i can get a PoC during the week, even if one couldn't get arbitrary code, one could still point the new iceweasel on the host machine to a site witha FF exploit. Now that i think of it.. it would be simple enough to create a free shellserver with busybox aliased to a malicious FireFox call in the system bashrc.. that'd probably do it. I'll look into it. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH6lc4LeTfO4yBSAcRAnPxAJ46dqdpOW+XordEFgS7f2tvt6YrgQCgtzEs iBkMag0YujDUaYgm3ONQIjQ= =Ibsy -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dual boot install from debian 4.0r1 net install cdrom
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tim Channon wrote: michael wrote: i've just used the default and expertgui debian net install and there is an option for manually controlling the partitioning process Yes *is* there but perhaps not clearly enough. Maybe this will be useful information: - You can play around with the partitioner, try various things and it will NOT change the disk until you exit the partitioner where it warns then about Write to disk, and you can say don't. I suspect we have a slightly garbled plea for help. The real question is How do I shrink a Windows partition to make room for Debian? which is a totally different question. That facility is not in the 'net install. Probably the best bet is use a live-CD, boot into RAM (won't touch the hard disk) with Gnome GUI and there should be the much more complex repartitioner there which can hopefully resize the NTFS Windows partition. Then install Debian. downlaod Gparted. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH6bvXLeTfO4yBSAcRAv89AJ9nVpAvm/EL8HR2Xt2IrB33X9RdEwCfb2JW LdJakVUylw79B07DA7OMHWk= =CEI/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ATI all in wonder 9600
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi List, Has anyone got one of these working well dual head? I've got he right driver, and using the aticonfig script i just can't get tit to work. The clsoest i come is firing up X, enlightenment (dr17, latest cvs) sees it as two xinerama screens, but if i move a windows off screen towards the other screen, the cursor goes to the other screen, but the application window comes accross the first screen from the other side. I remember last time i had this problem (i upgraded from 32 bit to amd64 on this machine last night, but both on debian testing) it was a really simple aticonfig option, but i've tried all the obvious ones. Any help appreciated. Regards Rich Healey -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH6GIeLeTfO4yBSAcRAmVmAJ0TEY+nlQoEGvmcwAqhGR08V4U+sgCeN8Zo 8BBDN8HFcQ7MrmP+D+XHPkw= =3ds1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tunnel iceweasel?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi list, I'm trying to tunnel an iceweasel instance via ssh from one of my boxes at my house to remember the name of an add-on i installed. The problem is that i create a ssh session (ssh -XC ssh.psychotik.info), login and run iceweasel at the bash prompt, which takes forever, but then finally *opens a local iceweasel!!!* Why would it do this?! Regards Rich Healey -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH5fpcLeTfO4yBSAcRAmyLAKC3oNaQZZ/SwtELS6Zud4QRYqRW2ACg2KBU 258jfyfUaY5SMIALPFJOXwI= =fD5X -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] N73
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alphonse Ogulla wrote: Try gEDA, the electronics design automation set of tools. The project's home page is http://www.geda.seul.org. Alphonse Ogulla Sent using Nokia N73 On 3/23/08, jeffry s [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i need a software to draw a circuit. in my circuit there is one micro controller PIC16F877A. any suggestion of a good software. i am using debian unstable with GNOME.. thanks.. Hi Alphonse, I have a N73 also, do you just use the default mail client to read the list? Regards Rich Healey -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH5fsbLeTfO4yBSAcRApPQAKC2xp7zadvnuiIPX3dn/zQ/CJaLgACfRAms W3YduqHhFHxR/yMJ+0Yorqw= =TnCA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: LCD screen flickering
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ji ZhengYu wrote: Johan Marklund wrote: Ji ZhengYu skrev: On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 6:47 AM, Andrea Ferraresi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2008-03-05 at 13:54 +0800, Ji ZhengYu wrote: Hi, everyone I used a toshiba laptop on debian/stable, and everything was OK! Now I am using debian/sid for some reasons, but some character in some fields on LCD screen is flickering, after a long time running debian, it will flicker more worse sometimes. I can't take a screenshot because it always looks good from the picture what I get :-( kernel2.6.24+13: i386 xorg 1:7.3+10 graphic driver i810 ( for my intel graphic 855GM card onboard) Any suggestion? I'm currently experiencing the same problem with the same graphic card, but only after hibernation. After a reboot my screen works fine. -- |_|O|_| Andrea Ferraresi [EMAIL PROTECTED] |_|_|O| KeyFP= CFE7 223E EB7A E729 9675 BA93 5152 C043 3817 D93A Well, after a reboot, it looks fine. But after some times, the same problem come up again. Any suggestion? Regards, G Are you shure that the problem isn't hardware related? I've had several laptops with semi-broken inverter boards in the screen. It caused the monitor to flicker and sometimes go dark until next reboot. regards -- Yosh It's definite that the problem is software related. Now I'm back to stable, everything is OK again. Regards, G try using the intel driver. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH5cosLeTfO4yBSAcRAvOWAKDcYcVDUJ0rm70UJtR1kmr2OCRfNACgsFOF XqvSH111+mvro5h8zHHtYDY= =P6V3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: libgconf2 dependencies..
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 10:32:00AM +1100, Rich Healey wrote: I can't upgrade a lot of packages (perl for one) because apt says that: The following packages have unmet dependencies: libgconf2-4: Depends: gconf2-common (= 2.22) but it is not going to be installed Depends: gconf2-common ( 2.23) but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages [snip] that looks like it might be corruption in your apt database. Try moving aside /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin and updating. A Hi, I just tried that, it still comes back with the libgonf error.. When I update it seems to go awfully fast, is there somewhere else that it's storing package lists? I am reading this right aren't i.. My version of gconf2-common is 2.22.0.1 that's in the specified range.. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH4EfhLeTfO4yBSAcRAng2AKDf0+HhUWlhJ7hwyVzKuTWz6tP2UwCcCulc UAz7XO6FOVJ4LXWpJisGUqo= =xkIl -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]