from:"Scott"


On 7/9/23 12:49 PM, Charles Curley wrote:

On Sun, 9 Jul 2023 11:15:10 -0700
Paul Scott  wrote:


Can I somehow configure the print dialog to use Zathura for print
preview for PDFs?

To which print dialog are you referring? The native Zathura one (if
any; I have no idea, so I ask), the naive one for some other
application (LibreOffice, e.g.), or the one provided by your
desktop/GUI? If the latter, which one?


Good question.  I'll look for answers.

Paul

Re: configuring zathura's print preview




On 7/9/23 12:00 PM, Brian wrote:

On Sun 09 Jul 2023 at 10:42:52 -0700, Paul Scott wrote:


(snip)

Does

lp -o "letter"

scale the document?

This is an option unknown to CUPS. It will be ignored.


I found that in man lp

Paul

Re: configuring zathura's print preview


On 7/9/23 12:16 PM, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote:

Brian  wrote:

On Sun 09 Jul 2023 at 10:42:52 -0700, Paul Scott wrote:
  

On 7/9/23 4:40 AM, Brian wrote:

[...]
  

The file displayed by zathura is not the file that is sent to the
printing system. The latter can be viewed by using Print to File.

The print dialog converts your PDF to a new PDF with Cairo
Graphics. Scaling is also done by Cairo Graphics. CUPS is not
involved.

That's good to know and seems somewhat illogical!  Would it be
reasonable to ask if you know why?

(snip)



Now that I know that the paper size is correct I see that "lp"
prints my file perfectly.

The fonts are embedded in the original PDF. CUPS prints what it is
given.


If the file were not the correct size I would have liked to use the
scaling and page choices in the print dialog.

Does

lp -o "letter"

scale the document?

This is an option unknown to CUPS. It will be ignored.

I don't use lp very much but according to
https://www.cups.org/doc/options.html#OPTIONS

  $ lp -o fit-to-page -o media=Letter filename

should do what the OP wants.

fit-to-page reduces too much.  Page Setup/Scale in the print dialog 
gives me what I want.


Paul

understanding the print dialog

From my apparently misinformed thread about Zathura print preview I 
would like to understand the print dialog that appears when I press 
Ctrl-P in Zathura particularly.


Can I somehow configure the print dialog to use Zathura for print 
preview for PDFs?


What is the reason that the print dialog converts PDFs to Cairo Graphics?

Several years ago print preview in Zathura worked quite well.

Thank you,

Paul

Re: configuring zathura's print preview




On 7/9/23 4:40 AM, Brian wrote:

On Sat 08 Jul 2023 at 22:28:52 -0700, Paul Scott wrote:


On 7/8/23 3:58 PM, Charles Curley wrote:

On Sat, 8 Jul 2023 13:35:43 -0700
Paul Scott  wrote:


Can someone please direct me to documentation for or tell me how to
set what program does print preview for Zathura?  I would Zathura
would be a possibility.

charles@jhegaala:~$ apt-cache show zathura | grep -i homepage
Homepage: https://pwmt.org/projects/zathura
charles@jhegaala:~$


Their documentation is being updated and I didn't see anything about 
print preview and I now realize that my question may be a question about 
CUPS and/or the print dialog.


(see below)

(snip)

My problem is discovering whether a PDF will fit well enough on an 
8"x11" sheet of paper.

Most PDF viewers will let you see the properties, which should include
the page size. And, depending on your printer software (CUPS on
Debian), you may be able to scale a document.


So far I have found the Zathura "info" command but it doesn't tell me the
page size.

Install poppler-utils and use pdfinfo and pdffonts.

I have those and that helps a lot.  Thank you!

The print dialog does indeed give me the ability to scale.

Another problem I am now having looks like a missing font. Zathura displays
the document (music) fine but when I print (CUPS) some of the graphical
information is missing.



The file displayed by zathura is not the file that is sent to the printing
system. The latter can be viewed by using Print to File.

The print dialog converts your PDF to a new PDF with Cairo Graphics. Scaling
is also done by Cairo Graphics. CUPS is not involved.


That's good to know and seems somewhat illogical!  Would it be 
reasonable to ask if you know why?


Pdffonts does indeed tell me that there are illegal characters in the 
PDF created by Print to File.


Now that I know that the paper size is correct I see that "lp" prints my 
file perfectly.


If the file were not the correct size I would have liked to use the 
scaling and page choices in the print dialog.


Does

lp -o "letter"

scale the document?

Thank you,

Paul

Re: configuring zathura's print preview

2023-07-08 Thread Paul Scott




On 7/8/23 3:58 PM, Charles Curley wrote:

On Sat, 8 Jul 2023 13:35:43 -0700
Paul Scott  wrote:


Can someone please direct me to documentation for or tell me how to
set what program does print preview for Zathura?  I would Zathura
would be a possibility.

charles@jhegaala:~$ apt-cache show zathura | grep -i homepage
Homepage: https://pwmt.org/projects/zathura
charles@jhegaala:~$

Thank you!



My problem is discovering whether a PDF will fit well enough on an
8"x11" sheet of paper.

Most PDF viewers will let you see the properties, which should include
the page size. And, depending on your printer software (CUPS on
Debian), you may be able to scale a document.

So far I have found the Zathura "info" command but it doesn't tell me 
the page size.


The print dialog does indeed give me the ability to scale.

Another problem I am now having looks like a missing font. Zathura 
displays the document (music) fine but when I print (CUPS) some of the 
graphical information is missing.


Paul



Paul

configuring zathura's print preview

2023-07-08 Thread Paul Scott

Can someone please direct me to documentation for or tell me how to set 
what program does print preview for Zathura?  I would Zathura would be a 
possibility.


My problem is discovering whether a PDF will fit well enough on an 
8"x11" sheet of paper.


TIA,

Paul

Re: power glitch has killed X solved

2023-06-15 Thread Paul Scott


On 6/15/23 10:24 AM, Paul Scott wrote:


On 6/15/23 09:57, Paul Scott wrote:
It has 

been
years since I needed to know some basic system stuff.  I have been 
running Debian sid for over 20 years.


There was apparently a power glitch in the last 8 hours.  My desktop 
is fine.  My laptop which was charging only boots (grub) to the 
command line.


Aptitude works and I have tried reinstalling grub and the kernel.

I can get to a recovery mode for any of several kernels I have 
installed.


I need to take this laptop to Japan tomorrow.


From aptitude a number of X11 package reinstalls has solved my X problems.

Paul

Re: power glitch has killed X

2023-06-15 Thread Paul Scott




On 6/15/23 09:57, Paul Scott wrote:
It has 

been
years since I needed to know some basic system stuff.  I have been 
running Debian sid for over 20 years.


There was apparently a power glitch in the last 8 hours.  My desktop 
is fine.  My laptop which was charging only boots (grub) to the 
command line.


Aptitude works and I have tried reinstalling grub and the kernel.

I can get to a recovery mode for any of several kernels I have installed.

I need to take this laptop to Japan tomorrow.

TIA for any help,

Paul

power glitch has killed X

2023-06-15 Thread Paul Scott

It has years since I needed to know some basic system stuff.  I have 
been running Debian sid for over 20 years.


There was apparently a power glitch in the last 8 hours.  My desktop is 
fine.  My laptop which was charging only boots (grub) to the command line.


Aptitude works and I have tried reinstalling grub and the kernel.

I can get to a recovery mode for any of several kernels I have installed.

I need to take this laptop to Japan tomorrow.

TIA for any help,

Paul

bookworm display power management issue

2023-06-13 Thread Scott Lair

Since upgrading to bookworm I'm having a display power management issue. I am 
using XFCE. Setting the display
power management slider to blank after 5 minutes does indeed blank the display. 
However, every 30 seconds or 
so the monitor comes back on, then simply displays no signal and goes back off 
again. This repeats every 
30 seconds or so. I am getting the same behaviour in MATE as well, so it's not 
unique to XFCE. The machine in
question is an HP Elitedesk 800 G3 with intel graphics. It did not have this 
issue on debian 11.

Looking for ideas on how to diagnose and fix.

thanks,

Scott

Re: building marlin for a 3d printer, what compiler do I use for STM-32 based boards, doing it on an arm64 system?

2022-12-19 Thread John Scott

I've not personally used it, but you're probably looking for gcc-arm-none-eabi


signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: DNSSEC working but SSHFP reported as insecure

2022-12-03 Thread John Scott

> Where am I making a mistake, please ?

I think I know the problem. On the client machine, by default glibc doesn't 
indicate to applications that DNS records were signed via DNSSEC. This is 
because, how is glibc to know whether the DNS servers it's getting its records 
from is supposed to be considered trustworthy? It might be some DNS server set 
up by your ISP or something, and you might not want to place your full trust in 
them.

I believe your server is configured correctly. However, in order for GNU/Linux 
clients to take advantage of DNSSEC, they typically need to run validating DNS 
resolvers locally that can be trusted, AND set a glibc option in 
/etc/resolv.conf letting glibc know that the signatures can be trusted.

I'm not a DNS aficionado, so someone please correct me if I got the details 
wrong


signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Getting PHP to work with Apache on other directories

2022-09-14 Thread Paul Scott


On 9/14/22 06:49, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote:

Folks:

I just installed Debian testing. I do PHP development. I host live
websites at /var/www/html and development sites at
/home/paulf/public_html. I have Apache configured so that
localhost/~paulf/ gets me to the sites at /home/paulf/public_html.

I have an index.html and a script to test PHP functionality in both
locations. The phpinfo.php script consists of 

I was just there.

Comment out the last 5 lines of /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/phpX.conf

where X is your version of PHP

HTH,

Paul

Re: USB WiFi Adapter

2022-08-24 Thread John Scott

I would like to recap some points that've already been shared in this
thread and also give some advice for those who want to use libre USB Wi-
Fi adapters with Debian GNU/Linux.

The best one can do with free software right now is 802.11n. There are
two main families of chipsets for USB wireless adapters, ath9k_htc
(AR7010 & AR9271) and "carl9170" (AR9170). The latter has some issues
with 802.11n setups, so the former should be preferred.

AR9271 is never dual-band capable; it is always 2.4GHz only. Whether an
AR7010 or AR9170 adapter is dual-band capable depends on what wireless
chip it is paired with. In general dual-band capable AR7010 adapters are
somewhat challenging to find, but dual-band AR9170 adapters are easy to
find. 

For those interested in the technical details, ath9k_htc uses a custom
Xtensa CPU and as such requires a custom cross toolchain. Currently we
build this free firmware in Debian completely from source, which is
quite an achievement! I'm the current maintainer of open-ath9k-htc-
firmware in Debian (more on that package later), but much credit goes to
the former maintainer Oleksij Rempel, especially for his encouragement
of me. AR9170 uses an ordinary SuperH-2 CPU, and as such the carl9170
firmware can be built with a standard SuperH cross toolchain. I've
currently packaged gcc-sh-elf and binutils-sh-elf in Debian Unstable, so
that when I get around to it (or when someone I can mentor expresses
interest ️) we can build carl9170 from source as well.

The firmware for AR9170 (AKA carl9170) is currently shipped in the
firmware-linux-free package. However, due to complicated historical
reasons, the firmware for ath9k_htc is in a separate firmware-ath9k-htc
package, which tragically is not installed by default like all other
free firmware is. There is a common misconception that because ath9k_htc
adapters don't work out-of-the-box, but because the firmware also
happens to be in the non-free firmware-atheros package, that this is
actually non-free. That's not true; it's a fluke that the ath9k_htc
firmware is in firmware-atheros, and we're working to get it removed
from there.

So here's what I want to emphasize: if there's a chance you'll be using
an ath9k_htc adapter, install the firmware-ath9k-htc package. If you
don't know whether the adapter you have (or will have) has ath9k_htc,
installing that package won't hurt.

In general, for issues such as this, one should consult the Free
Software Foundation's Respects Your Freedom program, which certifies
devices that are guaranteed to be the best one can do with free
software. ThinkPenguin is just one of many vendors that sells USB
wireless adapters that work with free software+firmware.

Also, neither carl9170 nor ath9k_htc work with the Debian Installer
right now, so if one needs to install over Wi-Fi, the Live installer
should be considered.

Disclaimer: I have been compensated by ThinkPenguin, an FSF RYF vendor,
for my Debian wireless packaging work.

If anyone has questions on the matter, or would like to help with
wireless hacking, anyone is welcome to reach me privately.


signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: dynupdater not seeming to do anything

2022-07-31 Thread Paul Scott




On 7/31/22 07:42, David wrote:

On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 at 23:28, Paul Scott  wrote:

On 7/31/22 04:50, Curt wrote:

On 2022-07-31,   wrote:

I would be just as happy to have ddclient working.  I only have
dyn_updater because ddclient didn't seem to be working.

Hi, I haven't used any of these tools, but FYI in case you are unaware:
The Debian project exists to strongly advocate the use of free
software, see here:
[1] https://www.debian.org/intro/philosophy
[2] https://www.debian.org/social_contract
Where "free" means "freedom" to share, build and modify,
among other things.

If ddclient is packaged by the Debian project, it is truly "free"
software per the DFSG in [2] above, and any issues you are
having with it are certainly on-topic for this mailing list.

dyn_updater on the other hand appears to be associated
with some kind of commerical product and have some kind
of restrictive End User Licence Agreement, making it the kind
of software that the Debian project expressly forbids and
avoids. So if you need help with it, you might have more
success by asking whoever supplied it to you.


I may have gotten ddclient to work with a configuration supplied by 
dyndns.org .  I won't know for a while because I haven't successfully 
changed my IP address by reseting my cable modem.


Thank for the information and help.

Paul

Re: dynupdater not seeming to do anything

2022-07-31 Thread Paul Scott




On 7/31/22 04:50, Curt wrote:

On 2022-07-31,   wrote:

Doesn't it seem from the OP that the daemon doesn't
start?

I interpret the process list in the original post as showing a
running dyn_updater:

You're right. I  misread all that somehow. Documentation is
infuriatingly sparse, but mentions that the app's ( a *GUI* app) actvity
is logged to a file.  Maybe the OP (who's disappeared anyway, as they
often do) should look there.


I haven't disappeared.  We're probably in different time zones and have 
different sleep schedules.


I don't know about the GUI part of dyn_updater.  It just site in my task 
bar and doesn't do anything when I click it.


I expect either dyn_updater or ddclient to be daemons catching any 
change in IP address and sending the change to dyndns.org.


I would be just as happy to have ddclient working.  I only have 
dyn_updater because ddclient didn't seem to be working.


Thanks,

Paul

Re: dynupdater not seeming to do anything

2022-07-31 Thread Paul Scott




On 7/30/22 11:00 PM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

On Sat, Jul 30, 2022 at 05:55:23PM -0700, Paul Scott wrote:

Can someone please help me diagnose why dynupdater is not seeming to update
my ip address so I cna access my local computer from somewhere else.

ps ax |grep dyn
    5237 ?    Sl   170:43 dyn_updater
    5269 ?    Sl 5:38 /usr/bin/dyn_updater --daemon start
  719685 pts/2    R+ 0:00 grep dyn

I can't find a `dyn_updater' in any of the Debian repos. So tell us:

What /is/ dyn_updater? Where did you get it from? Does it have
documentation? A config file? Perhaps some logs?
I was using ddclient and it wasn't working for possibly the same reason 
that dyn_updater isn't working.  I got dyn_updater from dyndns.org.


Given the name and your description, the thing might update your
dyndns record (not your IP address: your ISP changes this one).
If this guess is correct, it'll depend on an external service.


If I understand this correctly ddclient and dyn_updater should tell my 
subdomain at dyndns.org what my current IP address so I can connect to 
my home computer.


Thank you,

Paul



May be this one is failing?

But that's only guesswork.

Cheers

dynupdater not seeming to do anything

2022-07-30 Thread Paul Scott

Can someone please help me diagnose why dynupdater is not seeming to 
update my ip address so I cna access my local computer from somewhere else.


ps ax |grep dyn
   5237 ?    Sl   170:43 dyn_updater
   5269 ?    Sl 5:38 /usr/bin/dyn_updater --daemon start
 719685 pts/2    R+ 0:00 grep dyn

TIA.

Paul

Re: booting from install usb

2022-05-09 Thread Paul Scott




On 5/9/22 14:19, Felix Miata wrote:

Paul Scott composed on 2022-05-09 12:25 (UTC-0700):


I let my laptop update its UEFI BIOS which of course zapped GRUB.

Not in the way you think...


/dev.sda2 which is "ef EFI (FAT-12/16/32)"

This should be the key, suggesting strongly that your Linux installation is
installed in UEFI mode.

That is correct.  I did install in UEFI mode.

If this is the case, you should be able to fix the problem
via BIOS setup, to select the (presumably Debian) entry that is probably there 
to
select as top priority.
After the BIOS update I mentioned the only boot choice was Windows which 
is why I figured some part of the GRUB stuff had been broken or deleted.

Alternatively, having executed mount -a after chrooting,
running efibootmgr should allow reorganizing the priority list to put your 
choice
at the top, or to add a new one if the one you need to be first is missing.

man efibootmgr


That didn't seem to work but as I was trying to figure out why I 
discovered I must have missed where rescue mode was telling me to mount 
the partition that must have had the EFI stuff I needed.  I can't give 
precise information but I was able to reinstall GRUB from Rescue mode 
and now all is well!


Thank you very much for your help,

Paul

booting from install usb

2022-05-09 Thread Paul Scott


Greetings,

I haven't done serious system work for many years.

I let my laptop update its UEFI BIOS which of course zapped GRUB.

I am in rescue mode from the USB stick used for install and have mounted 
the root file system and done:


chroot /mydisk (where my root file system is mounted)

I am not sure where to install GRUB with grub-install

I initially installed on a Windows 10 system.

.I have:

/dev/sda1 which is empty

/dev.sda2 which is "ef EFI (FAT-12/16/32)"

/dev/1p[1-7]  the first of which is EFI System followed by there MS 
partitions and the last three are my Linux partitions.


TIA for any help (I have been searching the web for quite a while 
without success beyond the above),


Paul

Re: installing on Lenovo Ideapad 3 now working




On 3/29/22 10:32, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:

On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 07:35:46AM -0700, Paul Scott wrote:

Greetings,

Having done many Debian installs I am now trying to install on a new Lenovo
IdeaPad 3.

I have disabled Trusted Platform Module and Secure Boot.

I used Balena Etcher to install a Debian iso to a USB stick.

Rather than a boot order that IdeaPad allows enabling USB and two network
options for booting.  USB has been enable for all of my many attempts.

TIA for any ideas on how to solve and/or diagnose this.

Paul



Hi Paul,

If I were you, I wouldn't start from here.

I'd start by using the unofficial non-free iso that includes firmware.
I would enable TPM and Secure Boot - both work in Debian 11.

https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/11.3.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-11.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso

Again, I wouldn't use Balena Etcher - I would use dd if you have
a Linux machine around - you can always reformat the USB drive afterwards.



FWIW Balena Etcher worked and my attempt with dd did not.



https://www.debian.org/releases/bullseye/amd64/ gives you the installation
guide.
I had looked first on the debian web site which worked for me every 
other time but didn't seem to be complete this time.


F12 will give you a boot order, yes.

With every good wish, as ever,


The install is in process now.

Thank you and others again,

Paul

Re: installing on Lenovo Ideapad 3




On 3/29/2022 10:28 AM, Christian Britz wrote:

On 2022-03-29 19:20 UTC+0200, Paul Scott wrote:


Which ISO?

debian-11.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso

This could be the root cause for the networking problems. Try the
"unofficial" ISO which supports binary blobs.


Thank you,

That makes sense,

Paul




If this seems unethical to you, buy an ethernet adapter which does not
need a proprietary binary blob. For WiFi, there is probably no such
solution available.

Regards,
Christian

Re: installing on Lenovo Ideapad 3




On 3/29/2022 9:26 AM, Charles Curley wrote:

On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 07:35:46 -0700
Paul Scott  wrote:


Having done many Debian installs I am now trying to install on a new
Lenovo IdeaPad 3.

Is that the complete model name? I have a "Lenovo IdeaPad Yoga 13". If
you can boot pretty much any Linux, dmidecode should give you that. See
the "System Information" stanza.

I should now be able to do that from the installer.



I have disabled Trusted Platform Module and Secure Boot.

I used Balena Etcher to install a Debian iso to a USB stick.

I have no idea what Balena Etcher is. I usually use dd to copy to the
raw device, e.g. "dd if=example.iso of=/dev/sdb". Do not copy to a
partition on the raw device, e.g. sdb3.

Which ISO?

debian-11.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso



Rather than a boot order that IdeaPad allows enabling USB and two
network options for booting.  USB has been enable for all of my many
attempts.

OK, so what exactly do you see? Does the USB stick so much as get to
its boot menu?


See my reply to tomas.

Thanks for your reply,

Paul

Re: installing on Lenovo Ideapad 3




On 3/29/2022 8:44 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 07:35:46AM -0700, Paul Scott wrote:

Greetings,

Having done many Debian installs I am now trying to install on a new Lenovo
IdeaPad 3.

I have disabled Trusted Platform Module and Secure Boot.

I used Balena Etcher to install a Debian iso to a USB stick.

Rather than a boot order that IdeaPad allows enabling USB and two network
options for booting.  USB has been enable for all of my many attempts.

TIA for any ideas on how to solve and/or diagnose this.

You don't quite describe the problem you have. So I'll try a
shot in the dark.



I did forget to mention that the USB stick was ignored.



I remember that the Lenovos have a "boot menu" where you can
choose the device to boot from which is separate from the
BIOS setup.

Try holding F12 while booting.


Thank you!  I hadn't seen documentation for the F12 boot menu.

Now the install starts!

Unfortunately now the install doesn't detect an Ethernet card and gives 
me a long list of driver choices and I will have to figure out which one 
this laptop needs.


Thanks again,

Paul

installing on Lenovo Ideapad 3


Greetings,

Having done many Debian installs I am now trying to install on a new 
Lenovo IdeaPad 3.


I have disabled Trusted Platform Module and Secure Boot.

I used Balena Etcher to install a Debian iso to a USB stick.

Rather than a boot order that IdeaPad allows enabling USB and two 
network options for booting.  USB has been enable for all of my many 
attempts.


TIA for any ideas on how to solve and/or diagnose this.

Paul

Can not find

2021-07-24 Thread Clinton Scott

Is there a package available that both walks you through the steps and has
the os to install debian on an rca galileo tablet?

Thanks in advance

Re: identifying my LInux machine on my LAN - some success

2021-02-17 Thread Paul Scott


On 2/17/21 10:03 AM, IL Ka wrote:



paul@Joy4:~/music/pima$ systemctl status ssh``

● ssh.service - OpenBSD Secure Shell server
  Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/ssh.service; enabled;
vendor
preset: enabled)
  Active: active (running) since Tue 2021-02-16 11:53:13 MST;
21h ago
    Docs: man:sshd(8)
  man:sshd_config(5)
    Main PID: 359457 (sshd)

Before replying to your help below I can now connect from my Mac on the 
same LAN both with ssh to the IP of this machine and through my dynamic 
DNS address.  I'll try Bitvise from the local Windows machine soon.


And what about the ip address and port number?

Check your ip:
$ ip addr

I should have replied ealier that the above gives the correct IP address.


Check which ports are opened:
$ sudo ss -tl4p

Check which ip/port ssh is configured for
$ sudo sshd -T | grep list


paul@Joy4:~/music/pima$ sudo sshd -T | grep list
listenaddress [::]:22
listenaddress 0.0.0.0:22
permitlisten any

I'll try the following in a while/



 Try to ping it from your Windows machine.
c:\> ping [your_linux_ip_addr]
does it work?
Then, try to connect to port 22 using telnet to see if connection 
could be made.


In Admin powershell
PS C:\>  Enable-WindowsOptionalFeature -Online -FeatureName TelnetClient
PS C:\>  telnet [your_linux_ip_addr]


Thank you,

Paul

Re: identifying my LInux machine on my LAN

2021-02-17 Thread Paul Scott




On 2/16/21 1:07 PM, IL Ka wrote:

systemctl status ssh``



paul@Joy4:~/music/pima$ systemctl status ssh``

● ssh.service - OpenBSD Secure Shell server
 Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/ssh.service; enabled; vendor 
preset: enabled)

 Active: active (running) since Tue 2021-02-16 11:53:13 MST; 21h ago
   Docs: man:sshd(8)
 man:sshd_config(5)
   Main PID: 359457 (sshd)
  Tasks: 3 (limit: 16625)
 Memory: 3.5M
    CPU: 28.076s
 CGroup: /system.slice/ssh.service
 ├─359457 sshd: /usr/sbin/sshd -D [listener] 1 of 10-100 
startups

 ├─390020 sshd: unknown [priv]

 └─390021 sshd: unknown [net]


ssh and Bitvise still fail t o connect

Paul

Re: identifying my LInux machine on my LAN

2021-02-16 Thread Paul Scott



On 2/16/21 11:57 AM, Paul Scott wrote:



On 2/16/21 10:50 AM, Kenneth Parker wrote:



On Tue, Feb 16, 2021, 11:56 AM IL Ka <mailto:kazakevichi...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Check that
* connection is not blocked by firewall: ``sudo iptables -L``


paul@Joy4:~$ sudo iptables -L
[sudo] password for paul:
Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source   destination

Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source   destination

Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source   destination

I'm not sure if the above is Ok.




* your ssh is listening for port 22: ``ss -l -t``
* your ip address is correct: ``ip addr``


I would add:  Check if openssh-server is installed.


I guess I lost track of this reason openssh-server wasn't installed:

b1 - #948318 - openssh-server: Unable to restart sshd restart after 
upgrade to version 8.1p1-2


Is what I get when I try to install it (on sid).

I have now installed it over that bug and will see what happens.  How 
serious is that bug?


Installing openssh-server didn't help at least with the Bitvise from a 
Windows machine on the same LAN.


Paul

Re: identifying my LInux machine on my LAN

2021-02-16 Thread Paul Scott



On 2/16/21 10:50 AM, Kenneth Parker wrote:



On Tue, Feb 16, 2021, 11:56 AM IL Ka > wrote:


Check that
* connection is not blocked by firewall: ``sudo iptables -L``


paul@Joy4:~$ sudo iptables -L
[sudo] password for paul:
Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source   destination

Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source   destination

Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source   destination


* your ssh is listening for port 22: ``ss -l -t``
* your ip address is correct: ``ip addr``


I would add:  Check if openssh-server is installed.


I guess I lost track of this reason openssh-server wasn't installed:

b1 - #948318 - openssh-server: Unable to restart sshd restart after 
upgrade to version 8.1p1-2


Is what I get when I try to install it (on sid).

I have now installed it over that bug and will see what happens. How 
serious is that bug?


Thank you,

Paul

identifying my LInux machine on my LAN

2021-02-16 Thread Paul Scott

My LAN used to have 1 or two computers and/or debices and my Debian 
Linux machine on it.  I used to be able to log in either on the LAN from 
my wife's Windows computer or from outside the LAN with my Debian laptop 
with ssh or Windows machines on which I had installed putty or Bitvise.


I have dynamic DNS hosted by Dyn and I use ddclient.

I currently use DHCP for my Debian machine and have also attempted to 
connect with its local IP from the Windows machine on the LAN.


Now all methods fail.

I don't remember if attachments are allowed but I will attach one 
example of a failure as I possible clue.


TIA for any help,

Paul

Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye

2021-02-12 Thread Paul Scott




On 2/12/21 12:12 PM, Frank wrote:

Op 12-02-2021 om 18:19 schreef Gary Dale:

I appreciate the people doing this, but this is a serious issue. I have
to resort to firing up a VM or resorting to the command line on my local
server to update my web sites because I can't do it from Testing.

What file manager do you use?

I stopped using FileZilla for ftps years ago and only use MATE's caja
these days. Hasn't stopped working and I keep my (bullseye) system
up-to-date, so whatever TLS library caja is using, this bug doesn't
affect it.



gFtp seems to fail also.  Do you know what works for Gnome on sid?

Thank you,

Paul

Re: Missing SATA Drives on ROMED8-2T Motherboard

2020-11-25 Thread Scott Colby

Well, I spent some more time reading dmesg logs and messing around
in the BIOS. I enabled SR-IOV [1] and the drives appeared! I'm not
entirely sure _why_ this worked, but at this point (it's been over
a week of messing with this), I'm a bit tired of looking. If anyone
has thoughts on why this change fixed my problem, I'd love to hear
them.

Thanks,
Scott

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-root_input/output_virtualization

Re: Missing SATA Drives on ROMED8-2T Motherboard

2020-11-25 Thread Scott Colby

On Wed, Nov 25, 2020, at 05:04, Sven Hartge wrote:
> Hmm. The controller at 49:00.0 is missing here. Could it be hosting the
> missing drives?

Good catch! I did some more investigation with verbose lspci output,
here's the diff between 48:00.0 and 49:00.0:

1c1
< 48:00.0 SATA controller [0106]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH SATA 
Controller [AHCI mode] [1022:7901] (rev 51) (prog-if 01 [AHCI 1.0])
---
> 49:00.0 SATA controller [0106]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH SATA 
> Controller [AHCI mode] [1022:7901] (rev 51) (prog-if 01 [AHCI 1.0])
3c3
<   Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- 
Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx+
---
>   Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- 
> Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
5,6c5
<   Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
<   Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 154
---
>   Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 170
8c7
<   Region 5: Memory at b1b0 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2K]
---
>   Region 5: Memory at  (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
32,33c31,32
<   Capabilities: [a0] MSI: Enable+ Count=16/16 Maskable- 64bit+
<   Address: fee0  Data: 
---
>   Capabilities: [a0] MSI: Enable- Count=1/16 Maskable- 64bit+
>   Address:   Data: 
50d48
<   Kernel driver in use: ahci
51a50
>

The most interesting bits seem to be 49:00.0 has BusMaster-, DisINTx-,
and MSI: Enable-, compared to + for all those in 48:00.0. The
capabilities count of 1/16 instead of 16/16 also seems interesting.
There also is the fact that 49:00.0 doesn't have a kernel driver
in use, which would make sense if it is disabled somehow.

I looked through my dmesg output for the PCI bus IDs and compared
the various messages:

[2.086414] pci :48:00.0: BAR 5: assigned [mem 0xb1b0-0xb1b007ff]
...
[2.086424] pci :49:00.0: BAR 5: no space for [mem size 0x0800]
[2.086424] pci :49:00.0: BAR 5: failed to assign [mem size 0x0800]

This looks like an error! I found 23 instances of this in `dmesg |
egrep -c 'BAR.*failed to assign'`. Is this a significant problem?
I've of course only noticed the issue with the 4 drives on SATA0_3,
but I wonder if other PCIe devices would also be problematic.

Thanks,
Scott

P.S. Earlier tonight, I booted from a Windows installer USB, and all 10
drives (8 SATA HDDs and 2 NVMe SSDs) were detected there, putting
a nail in the coffin of my "partially broken motherboard" theory.

P.P.S. Full lspci output in case there's something else I didn't deem
interesting:

# lspci -nn -vv -d :7901
48:00.0 SATA controller [0106]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH SATA 
Controller [AHCI mode] [1022:7901] (rev 51) (prog-if 01 [AHCI 1.0])
Subsystem: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH SATA Controller [AHCI 
mode] [1022:7901]
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- 
Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx+
Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- SERR- 
Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 3
Flags: PMEClk- DSI+ D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA 
PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot+,D3cold+)
Status: D0 NoSoftRst+ PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
Capabilities: [64] Express (v2) Endpoint, MSI 00
DevCap: MaxPayload 256 bytes, PhantFunc 0, Latency L0s <4us, L1 
unlimited
ExtTag+ AttnBtn- AttnInd- PwrInd- RBE+ FLReset+ 
SlotPowerLimit 0.000W
DevCtl: Report errors: Correctable- Non-Fatal- Fatal- 
Unsupported-
RlxdOrd+ ExtTag+ PhantFunc- AuxPwr- NoSnoop+ FLReset-
MaxPayload 128 bytes, MaxReadReq 512 bytes
DevSta: CorrErr+ UncorrErr- FatalErr- UnsuppReq+ AuxPwr- 
TransPend-
LnkCap: Port #0, Speed unknown, Width x16, ASPM L0s L1, Exit 
Latency L0s <64ns, L1 <1us
ClockPM- Surprise- LLActRep- BwNot- ASPMOptComp+
LnkCtl: ASPM Disabled; RCB 64 bytes Disabled- CommClk+
ExtSynch- ClockPM- AutWidDis- BWInt- AutBWInt-
LnkSta: Speed unknown, Width x16, TrErr- Train- SlotClk+ 
DLActive- BWMgmt- ABWMgmt-
DevCap2: Completion Timeout: Range ABCD, TimeoutDis+, LTR-, 
OBFF Not Supported
DevCtl2: Completion Timeout: 50us to 50ms, TimeoutDis-, LTR-, 
OBFF Disabled
LnkCtl2: Target Link Speed: Unknown, EnterCompliance- SpeedDis-
 Transmit Margin: Normal Operating Range, 
EnterModifiedCompliance- ComplianceSOS-
 Compliance De-emphasis: -6dB
LnkSta2: Current De-emphasis Level: -3.5dB, 
EqualizationComplete+, EqualizationPhase1+
 EqualizationPhase2+, EqualizationPhase3+, 
LinkEqualizationRequest-
Capabilities: [a0] MSI:

Re: Re: Missing SATA Drives on ROMED8-2T Motherboard

2020-11-24 Thread Scott Colby

bar m2048@0xf010 port 0xf0100380 
irq 125
[9.904754] ata7: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m2048@0xf010 port 0xf0100400 
irq 126
[9.904756] ata8: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m2048@0xf010 port 0xf0100480 
irq 127
[9.905132] ahci :84:00.0: AHCI 0001.0301 32 slots 8 ports 6 Gbps 0xff 
impl SATA mode
[9.910969] ata9: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m2048@0xf000 port 0xf100 
irq 137
[9.910971] ata10: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m2048@0xf000 port 0xf180 
irq 138
[9.910973] ata11: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m2048@0xf000 port 0xf200 
irq 139
[9.910975] ata12: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m2048@0xf000 port 0xf280 
irq 140
[9.910976] ata13: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m2048@0xf000 port 0xf300 
irq 141
[9.910978] ata14: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m2048@0xf000 port 0xf380 
irq 142
[9.910980] ata15: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m2048@0xf000 port 0xf400 
irq 143
[9.910982] ata16: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m2048@0xf000 port 0xf480 
irq 144
[9.911701] ahci :48:00.0: AHCI 0001.0301 32 slots 8 ports 6 Gbps 0xff 
impl SATA mode
[9.915223] ata17: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m2048@0xb1b0 port 0xb1b00100 
irq 154
[9.915226] ata18: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m2048@0xb1b0 port 0xb1b00180 
irq 155
[9.915228] ata19: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m2048@0xb1b0 port 0xb1b00200 
irq 156
[9.915230] ata20: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m2048@0xb1b0 port 0xb1b00280 
irq 157
[9.915232] ata21: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m2048@0xb1b0 port 0xb1b00300 
irq 158
[9.915234] ata22: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m2048@0xb1b0 port 0xb1b00380 
irq 159
[9.915236] ata23: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m2048@0xb1b0 port 0xb1b00400 
irq 160
[9.915238] ata24: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m2048@0xb1b0 port 0xb1b00480 
irq 161
[   10.216184] ata2: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300)
[   10.216213] ata5: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300)
[   10.216244] ata4: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300)
[   10.216274] ata1: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300)
[   10.216722] ata3: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300)
[   10.220191] ata7: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300)
[   10.220220] ata8: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300)
[   10.220246] ata6: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300)
[   10.224190] ata9: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300)
[   10.224528] ata13: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300)
[   10.224898] ata11: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300)
[   10.224922] ata14: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300)
[   10.228160] ata20: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300)
[   10.228177] ata16: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300)
[   10.228205] ata10: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300)
[   10.228206] ata17: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300)
[   10.228233] ata18: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300)
[   10.228234] ata12: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300)
[   10.228262] ata15: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300)
[   10.228433] ata19: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300)
[   10.389969] ata24: SATA link up 6.0 Gbps (SStatus 133 SControl 300)
[   10.389992] ata21: SATA link up 6.0 Gbps (SStatus 133 SControl 300)
[   10.390009] ata23: SATA link up 6.0 Gbps (SStatus 133 SControl 300)
[   10.390029] ata22: SATA link up 6.0 Gbps (SStatus 133 SControl 300)
[   10.695066] ata22.00: ATA-11: ST16000NM001G-2KK103, SN03, max UDMA/133
[   10.695069] ata22.00: 31251759104 sectors, multi 16: LBA48 NCQ (depth 32), AA
[   10.698982] ata23.00: ATA-11: ST16000NM001G-2KK103, SN03, max UDMA/133
[   10.698986] ata23.00: 31251759104 sectors, multi 16: LBA48 NCQ (depth 32), AA
[   10.700664] ata24.00: ATA-11: ST16000NM001G-2KK103, SN03, max UDMA/133
[   10.700667] ata24.00: 31251759104 sectors, multi 16: LBA48 NCQ (depth 32), AA
[   10.703863] ata21.00: ATA-11: ST16000NM001G-2KK103, SN03, max UDMA/133
[   10.703865] ata21.00: 31251759104 sectors, multi 16: LBA48 NCQ (depth 32), AA
[   10.734006] ata22.00: configured for UDMA/133
[   10.737932] ata23.00: configured for UDMA/133
[   10.740104] ata24.00: configured for UDMA/133
[   10.743270] ata21.00: configured for UDMA/133
[   10.743502] scsi 20:0:0:0: Direct-Access ATA  ST16000NM001G-2K SN03 
PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
[   10.743926] scsi 21:0:0:0: Direct-Access ATA  ST16000NM001G-2K SN03 
PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
[   10.744281] scsi 22:0:0:0: Direct-Access ATA  ST16000NM001G-2K SN03 
PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
[   10.744626] scsi 23:0:0:0: Direct-Access ATA  ST16000NM001G-2K SN03 
PQ: 0 ANSI: 5

> What Kernel where you using? Did you try the one from backports?

I am using 4.19.0-12-amd64. I did try 5.8.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 from
buster-backports but saw the same behavior, so I downgraded back
to 4.19.

Thanks,
Scott

Missing SATA Drives on ROMED8-2T Motherboard

2020-11-23 Thread Scott Colby

Hello,

I am running Debian 10 with an Epyc 7232P on an ASRock Rack ROMED8-2T
motherboard. All my packages are up to date, and I have upgraded
my motherboard's firmware to the latest version as well.

This motherboard has two MiniSAS HD connectors (SATA0_3 and SATA4_7)
which are capable of fanning out to 4 SATA drives each, for a total
of 8 SATA connections. I have connected 8 known-working drives via
these connectors; all 8 of the drives show up properly in the system
firmware configuration screens. However, only the drives attached
to SATA4_7 are detected by Debian.

I have performed several troubleshooting steps:

- swapping the cables used for each connector
- swapping the drives between cables
- booting with only one connector in use at a time
- upgrading to the latest kernel available in buster-backports (I
  have since downgraded back to the kernel from the buster repository)
- attaching fewer drives to each cable

In all cases, the behavior was the same: all expected drives are
reported in the firmware, and the drives attached to SATA4_7 show
up in the OS (sd{a,b,c,d}), but the others are absent.

I have contacted ASRock support and they are unable to offer any
other ideas to try. They noted that the PCIe lanes used for SATA4_7
are shared with one of the motherboard's PCIe slots. Which connector
gets the lanes is controlled by two jumpers. However, the fact that
the drives appear for SATA4_7 indicates that I have configured my
jumper settings correctly. According to the block diagram[1] for
the motherboard, the PCIe lanes used by SATA0_3 are connected
directly to the processor.

There are a number of messages from libata in the dmesg logs, and
I can also provide lspci ouptut or anything else deemed useful.
However, none of the information I've been able to extract indicates
any errors, so I don't know what would be useful here. I'll wait
for prompting so I don't clutter the list with many lines of output.

Any help with this would be appreciated. Does anyone have experience
with this motherboard or SAS/SATA connections on the Epyc platform?
What other troubleshooting should I try?

Thank you,
Scott Colby

[1] the block diagram can be found on page 14 of the motherboard
manual at https://download.asrock.com/Manual/ROMED8-2T.pdf

Re: Radeon graphics work with 4.19.0-8 but not 4.19.0-9

2020-06-24 Thread Scott Lair

On Tue, 23 Jun 2020 20:07:29 -0400
Scott Lair  wrote:

> I installed a Radeon WX 3100 a few days ago on my buster system. It
> failed to bring up the X server. I installed the proprietary drivers
> from AMD's site, but still no dice.  Just for fun I tried to boot the
> previous kernel 4.19.0-8 and the system worked fine.
> 
> I have install the amd-graphics-firmware from buster backports
> version 20190717-2.  Also installed xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu version
> 18.1.99+git20190207-1. 
> 
> I have reconfigured the kernel and ran update-initramfs.  Also purged
> the amdgpu xorg driver and reinstalled.
> 
> Any ideas on how to get the system to run X with the 4.19.0-9 kernel.
> 
> 
> log snippet from xorg log on 4.19.0-9  - failed
> [60.114] (II) systemd-logind: logind integration requires
> -keeptty and -keeptty was not provided, disabling logind integration
> [60.116] (--) PCI:*(1@0:0:0) 1002:6985:103c:0b0e rev 0, Mem @
> 0xe000/268435456, 0xf000/2097152, 0xf7e0/262144, I/O @
> 0xe000/256, BIOS @ 0x/131072 [60.116] (II)
> LoadModule: "glx" [60.116] (II)
> Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so [60.116] (II)
> Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [60.116]compiled for
> 1.20.4, module version = 1.0.0 [60.116]ABI class: X.Org
> Server Extension, version 10.0 [60.116] (==) Matched ati as
> autoconfigured driver 0
> 
> drm is not loaded and amdgpu is not matched
> 
> log snippet from xorg log on 4.19.0-8 - worked OK
> [54.191] (II) systemd-logind: logind integration requires
> -keeptty and -keeptty was not provided, disabling logind integration
> [54.191] (II) xfree86: Adding drm device (/dev/dri/card0)
> [54.203] (--) PCI:*(1@0:0:0) 1002:6985:103c:0b0e rev 0, Mem @
> 0xe000/268435456, 0xf000/2097152, 0xf7e0/262144, I/O @
> 0xe000/256, BIOS @ 0x/131072 [54.204] (II)
> LoadModule: "glx" [54.240] (II)
> Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so [54.500] (II)
> Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [54.500]compiled for
> 1.20.4, module version = 1.0.0 [54.500]ABI class: X.Org
> Server Extension, version 10.0 [54.500] (II) Applying OutputClass
> "AMDgpu" to /dev/dri/card0 [54.500]loading driver: amdgpu
> [54.500] (==) Matched amdgpu as autoconfigured driver 0
> [54.500] (==) Matched ati as autoconfigured driver 1
> 
> 
> thanks
> 
> 
> 

Turned out to be that the amdgpu drivers were missing in the newer
kernel. A reinstall of the kernel got it back and video is back to
normal.

Radeon graphics work with 4.19.0-8 but not 4.19.0-9

2020-06-23 Thread Scott Lair

I installed a Radeon WX 3100 a few days ago on my buster system. It failed to 
bring up the X server. I installed the proprietary drivers from AMD's site, but 
still no dice.  Just for fun I tried to boot the previous kernel 4.19.0-8 and 
the system worked fine.

I have install the amd-graphics-firmware from buster backports version 
20190717-2.  Also installed xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu version 
18.1.99+git20190207-1. 

I have reconfigured the kernel and ran update-initramfs.  Also purged the 
amdgpu xorg driver and reinstalled.

Any ideas on how to get the system to run X with the 4.19.0-9 kernel.


log snippet from xorg log on 4.19.0-9  - failed
[60.114] (II) systemd-logind: logind integration requires -keeptty and 
-keeptty was not provided, disabling logind integration
[60.116] (--) PCI:*(1@0:0:0) 1002:6985:103c:0b0e rev 0, Mem @ 
0xe000/268435456, 0xf000/2097152, 0xf7e0/262144, I/O @ 
0xe000/256, BIOS @ 0x/131072
[60.116] (II) LoadModule: "glx"
[60.116] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
[60.116] (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[60.116]compiled for 1.20.4, module version = 1.0.0
[60.116]ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 10.0
[60.116] (==) Matched ati as autoconfigured driver 0

drm is not loaded and amdgpu is not matched

log snippet from xorg log on 4.19.0-8 - worked OK
[54.191] (II) systemd-logind: logind integration requires -keeptty and 
-keeptty was not provided, disabling logind integration
[54.191] (II) xfree86: Adding drm device (/dev/dri/card0)
[54.203] (--) PCI:*(1@0:0:0) 1002:6985:103c:0b0e rev 0, Mem @ 
0xe000/268435456, 0xf000/2097152, 0xf7e0/262144, I/O @ 
0xe000/256, BIOS @ 0x/131072
[54.204] (II) LoadModule: "glx"
[54.240] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
[54.500] (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[54.500]compiled for 1.20.4, module version = 1.0.0
[54.500]ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 10.0
[54.500] (II) Applying OutputClass "AMDgpu" to /dev/dri/card0
[54.500]loading driver: amdgpu
[54.500] (==) Matched amdgpu as autoconfigured driver 0
[54.500] (==) Matched ati as autoconfigured driver 1


thanks

Re: X framebuffer problem on AMD Picasso [fixed]

2020-04-12 Thread Paul Scott


On 4/12/20 11:23 AM, Paul Scott wrote:

On 4/12/20 3:10 AM, Paul Scott wrote:

On 4/11/2020 5:47 PM, Paul Scott wrote:

Hi,

I haven't posted for a long time!

I just successfully did my first UEFI installation.

It's a new AMD machine with.  X is failing to start.  I have solved 
a number of related problems within online information including 
finding the firmware-amd-graphics package.  I can't easily post log 
contents from that machine since it doesn't have email installed yet.


I am now at:

open /dev/dri/card0: no such file...

What I find online refers to the firmware problems I think I have 
solved.



Upgrading the rest of the testing packages killed X again.

Upgrading to the sid kernel fixed it again

Paul




TIA for any ideas,

Paul



Upgrading to testing fixed X.

Paul



Answered from my new machine.

In case anyone refers to this "thread" I should add that I didn't do a 
full update to Bullseye yet.  I just updated a few packages 
*including* the kernel.  I'm guessing it was rhe kernel that solved 
the problem.


Paul

Re: X framebuffer problem on AMD Picasso [fixed]

2020-04-12 Thread Paul Scott


On 4/12/20 3:10 AM, Paul Scott wrote:

On 4/11/2020 5:47 PM, Paul Scott wrote:

Hi,

I haven't posted for a long time!

I just successfully did my first UEFI installation.

It's a new AMD machine with.  X is failing to start.  I have solved a 
number of related problems within online information including 
finding the firmware-amd-graphics package.  I can't easily post log 
contents from that machine since it doesn't have email installed yet.


I am now at:

open /dev/dri/card0: no such file...

What I find online refers to the firmware problems I think I have 
solved.


TIA for any ideas,

Paul



Upgrading to testing fixed X.

Paul



Answered from my new machine.

In case anyone refers to this "thread" I should add that I didn't do a 
full update to Bullseye yet.  I just updated a few packages *including* 
the kernel.  I'm guessing it was rhe kernel that solved the problem.


Paul

Re: X framebuffer problem on AMD Picasso [fixed]

2020-04-12 Thread Paul Scott


On 4/11/2020 5:47 PM, Paul Scott wrote:

Hi,

I haven't posted for a long time!

I just successfully did my first UEFI installation.

It's a new AMD machine with.  X is failing to start.  I have solved a 
number of related problems within online information including finding 
the firmware-amd-graphics package.  I can't easily post log contents 
from that machine since it doesn't have email installed yet.


I am now at:

open /dev/dri/card0: no such file...

What I find online refers to the firmware problems I think I have solved.

TIA for any ideas,

Paul



Upgrading to testing fixed X.

Paul

X framebuffer problem on AMD Picasso

2020-04-11 Thread Paul Scott


Hi,

I haven't posted for a long time!

I just successfully did my first UEFI installation.

It's a new AMD machine with.  X is failing to start.  I have solved a 
number of related problems within online information including finding 
the firmware-amd-graphics package.  I can't easily post log contents 
from that machine since it doesn't have email installed yet.


I am now at:

open /dev/dri/card0: no such file...

What I find online refers to the firmware problems I think I have solved.

TIA for any ideas,

Paul

devscripts 'bts' mail setup

2019-03-21 Thread John Scott

I'm having trouble configuring bts via ~/.devscripts, though similar settings 
do work for Reportbug, and I'm looking for help solving this.

I want bts to send mail via SMTP, so this is how the relevant lines of 
.devscripts looks right now.
BTS_SMTP_HOST=posteo.de:587
BTS_SMTP_AUTH_USERNAME=jsc...@posteo.net

The man page says
* BTS_SMTP_AUTH_USERNAME, BTS_SMTP_AUTH_PASSWORD
If these options are set, then it is the same as the --smtp-username 
and --
smtp-password options being used.
* --smtp-username=USERNAME, --smtp-password=PASSWORD
If a username is specified but not a password, bts will prompt for the 
password before sending the mail.

But bts never prompts for a password, saying only "mailx: Null message body; 
hope that's ok." Even putting the password in .devscripts doesn't make it 
work, and the mails don't send.

The last thing I tried was setting BTS_SMTP_HELO. "Note that some SMTP servers 
may reject the use of a HELO which either does not resolve or does not appear 
to belong to the host using it." My /etc/mailname says X200, the name I gave 
this computer which clearly doesn't resolve. Is that normal?

I put my public IPv4 address in BTS_SMTP_HELO which didn't make a difference.

Thanks, I look forward to figuring this out.
 P.S. please CC me, I'm not subscribed to the list

signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

devscripts 'bts' mail setup

2019-03-21 Thread John Scott

I'm having trouble configuring bts via ~/.devscripts, though similar settings 
do work for Reportbug, and I'm looking for help solving this.

I want bts to send mail via SMTP, so this is how the relevant lines of 
.devscripts looks right now.
BTS_SMTP_HOST=posteo.de:587
BTS_SMTP_AUTH_USERNAME=jsc...@posteo.net

The man page says
* BTS_SMTP_AUTH_USERNAME, BTS_SMTP_AUTH_PASSWORD
If these options are set, then it is the same as the --smtp-username 
and --
smtp-password options being used.
* --smtp-username=USERNAME, --smtp-password=PASSWORD
If a username is specified but not a password, bts will prompt for the 
password before sending the mail.

But bts never prompts for a password, saying only "mailx: Null message body; 
hope that's ok." Even putting the password in .devscripts doesn't make it 
work, and the mails don't send.

The last thing I tried was setting BTS_SMTP_HELO. "Note that some SMTP servers 
may reject the use of a HELO which either does not resolve or does not appear 
to belong to the host using it." My /etc/mailname says X200, the name I gave 
this computer which clearly doesn't resolve. Is that normal?

I put my public IPv4 address in BTS_SMTP_HELO which didn't make a difference.

Thanks, I look forward to figuring this out.
 P.S. please CC me, I'm not subscribed to the list

signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Attendees List of International Elastomer Conference - International Rubber Expo 2017

2017-09-07 Thread Jonny Scott

 

 

Hello,

 

Would you be interested in the "Attendees List of International Elastomer
Conference - International Rubber Expo 2017"

 

Let me know your interest to send you the number of Attendees and cost.

 

Awaiting your reply

 

Regards,

Jonny Scott

If you do not wish to receive future emails from us, please reply as 'leave
out'

Re: why can't I visit this web site

2017-06-06 Thread Paul Scott

On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 10:18:48AM +0800, Long Wind wrote:
> really??
> 
> i just install chromium
> it has same problem as iceweasel

Works fine here on Firefox on sid (Debian is going back to Firefox),
Has button to change to English as someone else mentioned.

Paul


> 
> 
> On 6/7/17, Charlie S  wrote:
> >
> > After contemplation, my reply is:
> >
> >
> > It displays with Chromium and offers to translate it. Epiphany displays
> > it as well.
> >
> > Charlie
> >
> 
>

Re: kernel 3.16.39-1

2017-01-14 Thread Scott Lair

On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 19:50:55 +0100
Sven Joachim <svenj...@gmx.de> wrote:

> On 2017-01-14 13:35 -0500, Scott Lair wrote:
> 
> > Just downloaded a bunch of updates.  I end up with kernel 3.16.39-1
> >
> > uname:
> > 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.39-1 (2016-12-30) x86_64 GNU/Linux
> >
> > However on debian.org 3.16.36-1 is still listed as the kernel for
> > jessie.
> 
> There has been a new point release for jessie today[1], which is not
> mentioned on the website yet.  So it's normal that you received an
> update for the kernel and various other packages.
> 
> Cheers,
>Sven
> 
> 
> 1.
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-stable-announce/2017/01/msg0.html
> 
> 

Ah, ok. I was starting to get a little nervous.  That would explain why
some of my remote machines have not yet seen the updates come through.

thanks,

Scott

kernel 3.16.39-1

2017-01-14 Thread Scott Lair

Just downloaded a bunch of updates.  I end up with kernel 3.16.39-1

uname:
3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.39-1 (2016-12-30) x86_64 GNU/Linux

However on debian.org 3.16.36-1 is still listed as the kernel for
jessie.

anyone else getting this?

below is a list of all updates on one of my machines.

The following packages will be upgraded:
  base-files bash bind9-host ca-certificates dbus dbus-x11 ddm
  debian-plymouth-manager dnsutils e2fslibs e2fsprogs
  evolution-data-server-common exim4 exim4-base exim4-config
  exim4-daemon-light file firefox-solydxk-adjustments host hplip hplip-data
  intel-microcode libbind9-90 libc-bin libc-dev-bin libc6 libc6:i386 libc6-dev
  libc6-i686:i386 libcairo-gobject2 libcairo2 libcairo2:i386 libcamel-1.2-49
  libcomerr2 libcomerr2:i386 libdbus-1-3 libdbus-1-3:i386 libdns-export100
  libdns100 libebackend-1.2-7 libebook-1.2-14 libebook-contacts-1.2-0
  libecal-1.2-16 libedata-book-1.2-20 libedataserver-1.2-18 libfcgi-perl
  libgd3 libgnutls-deb0-28 libgnutls-deb0-28:i386 libgnutls-openssl27
  libgudev-1.0-0 libhogweed2 libhogweed2:i386 libhpmud0 libio-socket-ssl-perl
  libirs-export91 libisc-export95 libisc95 libisccc90 libisccfg-export90
  libisccfg90 liblwres90 libmagic1 libmpg123-0 libnettle4 libnettle4:i386
  libpam-modules libpam-modules-bin libpam-runtime libpam-systemd libpam0g
  libpcsclite1 libpng12-0 libpng12-0:i386 libsane-hpaio libss2
  libsystemd-daemon0 libsystemd-id128-0 libsystemd-journal0 libsystemd-login0
  libsystemd0 libtiff5 libtiff5:i386 libudev1 libudev1:i386 libvncclient0
  libvncserver0 libwmf0.2-7 linux-compiler-gcc-4.8-x86
  linux-headers-3.16.0-4-amd64 linux-headers-3.16.0-4-common
  linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64 linux-libc-dev locales minissdpd most
  multiarch-support nvidia-detect printer-driver-hpcups printer-driver-hpijs
  printer-driver-postscript-hp python-crypto sed solydxk-system systemd
  systemd-sysv thunderbird thunderbird-solydxk-adjustments tzdata tzdata-java
  udev updatemanager usermanager w3m wireless-regdb
115 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 137 MB of archives.


thanks,

Scott

SolidWorks/Autodesk/AutoCAD Users

2016-05-13 Thread Alvis Scott


Hi,

Hope you're doing well!

Would you be interested in SolidWorks/Autodesk/AutoCADUsers List for your  
sales and marketing campaigns?


We provide top decision maker's contacts acrossNorth America, Latin  
America, EMEA, and APAC.


Also we have technology users like : Autodesk, AutoCAD, Adobe, Ansys,  
Graphisoft, PTC,Microsoft, ESRI, VMware, Symantec, Borland, BENTLEY, Axeda,  
PTC Mathcad,SolidWorks, ENOVIA, CATIA, CINEMA4D, EDS CORPORATION, ADOBE,  
Siemens Teamcenter, Dassault ENOVIA, PTC , AutoCAD, SAP PLM, AutoCAD Civil  
3D, Revit, 3ds Max,Autodesk Inventor, PTC Windchill, PTC Creo, PTC  
Integrity, PTC Arbortext,Vernor, And many more.


Industries wise you might be interested totarget:
Graphic Design firms
Architecture & Planning firms
Mechanical or Industrial Engineering firms
Animation and Designing firms
Events Services firms etc.….

Thought you may be interested in thissoftware's: 3D CAD software,  
3Dprinting, Construction software, drafting software, Painting software,  
Designengineering and Civil engineering.


Information Fields – Name, Title, Email, Phone Numbers, Company Name,and  
Company Details like Physical Address, Web Address, Revenue Size,  
EmployeeSize and industry.


Please review and let me know if you areinterested and I will get back to  
you with more information for the same.


Await for response!


Best regards
Alvis Scott
Marketing Consultant


if you are not interested in receiving further emails, please reply back  
with“LEAVEOUT” in the subject line”

BMC Users List

2016-03-08 Thread Leah Scott

 

 

Hi,

 

Hope you are doing well!

 

I work for data research team we have reviewed your website. We have
recently updated list of over 50 Million global contacts.

 

If you're interested kindly let me know your target audience and I'll get
back to you with more information.

 

Hope to hear from you soon.

 

Other technology users we provide: CA, HP, Salesforce, Remedy, and many
more.

 

Thank you.

 

Regards

 

Ariana 

 

Lead Generation Specialist

Re: Have I been hacked?

2015-01-09 Thread scott

On 01/09/2015 09:19 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
 On 1/9/2015 8:49 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de 
 wrote:
 Am Freitag, 9. Januar 2015, 00:24:06 schrieb Brian:
 On Thu 08 Jan 2015 at 22:36:46 +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
 Am Donnerstag, 8. Januar 2015, 14:20:27 schrieb Jerry Stuckle:
 Just ensure you're using good security practices - don't allow root
 login, use long, random passwords, etc.  I also use a random character
 strings for the login ids, as well as passwords  - just one more thing
 for the hackers to have to figure out how to get around.

 Only allow SSH key based logins. Of course, only after you copied a public
 key onto the machine with ssh-copy-id.

 And have SSH keys with *strong* passphrases, to protect against someone
 stealing your key. Use ssh-agent wisely only on trusted machines.

 SSH password logins are just as safe. 20 characters gives a strong
 password for use on trusted machines. There is no need to worry about
 it being stolen because it is in your memory,

 I think SSH keys are safer, cause there is no password at all that can be
 brute forced.

 What do you mean by that?

 Okay, one can try to guess the key, but try that with a 4096 bit
 key.

 Hmm.

 10 characters, 6 to 7 bits per character, that's 60 bits.

 If the bits are truly random, straight brute-force will take, on
 average, half of 2^60 attempts.

 We can hold the integer 2^59 in a C variable on most recent desktops,
 but if we have bc (dc if you like post-fix), we can do this on even 32
 bit CPUs:

 576460752303423488 (base ten)

 At one milion attempts per second, that's 5764607523034 seconds, or
 182678 CPU-years.

 There's no way that's going to happen on-line, if the password is
 truly random, and not randomly a password that's a quick permutation
 of common memes or of entries in rainbow tables.

 
 Actually, 62 possible characters (upper case, lower case and digits), 10
 positions is 62^10 or 839,299,365,868,340,224 possible combinations.
 
 Adding in special characters obviously would increase that.
 
 But there is no way you'll hit a server 1,000,000 times a second trying
 to brute force a password.
 
 
 I currently use sixteen or more letters in my passwords, don't use
 simple permutations or common phrases (as for the first leter trick),
 use disconnected words from multiple languages. Or use 16 character
 true random passwords for the important stuff.

 
 All good suggestions.
 
 SSH keys are useful, but you have to keep them somewhere. The real
 danger to good passwords is the off-line attempts, and the passphrase
 you use for your private keystore is potentially subject to off-line
 if your password is.

 
 Yes, keys may actually be less secure than passwords.
 
 Jerry
 
 
If you have a dedicated hacker, or hackers, time is on their side. I
would much rather use a key with a passphrase.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54b09b89.5060...@gmx.com

Re: Have I been hacked?

2015-01-09 Thread scott

On 01/10/2015 12:01 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
 On 1/9/2015 10:24 PM, scott wrote:
 On 01/09/2015 09:19 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
 On 1/9/2015 8:49 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de 
 wrote:
 Am Freitag, 9. Januar 2015, 00:24:06 schrieb Brian:
 On Thu 08 Jan 2015 at 22:36:46 +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
 Am Donnerstag, 8. Januar 2015, 14:20:27 schrieb Jerry Stuckle:
 Just ensure you're using good security practices - don't allow root
 login, use long, random passwords, etc.  I also use a random character
 strings for the login ids, as well as passwords  - just one more thing
 for the hackers to have to figure out how to get around.

 Only allow SSH key based logins. Of course, only after you copied a 
 public
 key onto the machine with ssh-copy-id.

 And have SSH keys with *strong* passphrases, to protect against someone
 stealing your key. Use ssh-agent wisely only on trusted machines.

 SSH password logins are just as safe. 20 characters gives a strong
 password for use on trusted machines. There is no need to worry about
 it being stolen because it is in your memory,

 I think SSH keys are safer, cause there is no password at all that can be
 brute forced.

 What do you mean by that?

 Okay, one can try to guess the key, but try that with a 4096 bit
 key.

 Hmm.

 10 characters, 6 to 7 bits per character, that's 60 bits.

 If the bits are truly random, straight brute-force will take, on
 average, half of 2^60 attempts.

 We can hold the integer 2^59 in a C variable on most recent desktops,
 but if we have bc (dc if you like post-fix), we can do this on even 32
 bit CPUs:

 576460752303423488 (base ten)

 At one milion attempts per second, that's 5764607523034 seconds, or
 182678 CPU-years.

 There's no way that's going to happen on-line, if the password is
 truly random, and not randomly a password that's a quick permutation
 of common memes or of entries in rainbow tables.


 Actually, 62 possible characters (upper case, lower case and digits), 10
 positions is 62^10 or 839,299,365,868,340,224 possible combinations.

 Adding in special characters obviously would increase that.

 But there is no way you'll hit a server 1,000,000 times a second trying
 to brute force a password.


 I currently use sixteen or more letters in my passwords, don't use
 simple permutations or common phrases (as for the first leter trick),
 use disconnected words from multiple languages. Or use 16 character
 true random passwords for the important stuff.


 All good suggestions.

 SSH keys are useful, but you have to keep them somewhere. The real
 danger to good passwords is the off-line attempts, and the passphrase
 you use for your private keystore is potentially subject to off-line
 if your password is.


 Yes, keys may actually be less secure than passwords.

 Jerry


 If you have a dedicated hacker, or hackers, time is on their side. I
 would much rather use a key with a passphrase.


 
 That's fine, if you don't care about security.  Lose your laptop and
 your pass phrase can be broken at a rate of 1 billion attempts per
 second, since it is local to your machine.
 
 There is no way you're going to get even 100 attempts per second into an
 SSH server.  And since the hacker doesn't have direct access to the
 encrypted password on the server, he can't break it on a local machine.
  Using the same password/pass phrase for both systems, it would take
 10,000,000 times longer to hack the SSH password than your local pass
 phrase.
 
 And then there's the problem you can only access the server from a
 system with the key file.  And the more computers the key file resides
 on, the less secure it is.
 
 Since a password is not stored on any machine (except the server), there
 is nothing to break.
 
 Jerry
 
 
I replied to your post to me specifically, so I 'll do it here, also.
The fact is that if you have physical access to any machine, unfettered,
it's game over.
   Scotty


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54b0b779.2010...@gmx.com

Re: Replacing systemd in Jessie

On 2 December 2014 at 18:05, Patrick Bartek nemomm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, 02 Dec 2014, Scott Ferguson wrote:

On 2 December 2014 at 08:18, Patrick Bartek nemomm...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2014, Ric Moore wrote:

On 11/30/2014 11:27 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:

[snip]

as the default init more distros will follow suit,

Very few do not include systemd. I'd welcome a definitive list of
those that don't.

As as option at install time or during an upgrade? Don't know of any.

That do not include systemd as a package.

As far as I've read, I believe only Slackware absolutely refuses to use
systemd. I don't even think it's in the repo. I don't know if systemd
will even work with Slackware.

Um, I've heard that said before - but I like to check my facts
(especially when issues are emotive, *and* when outside parties may
have an interest in creating dissension and disorder), so I've read
Patrick's opinions[*1]. He's never said that (though I'd welcome an
authoritive correction). Understandably cautious for someone who
manages a huge workload almost single-handedly.
He has said he intends to remain with the current init system - that
he likes some of the abilities of systemd, and that one day he may
move to systemd.[*1] Which is not close to absolutely refuses to use
systemd.

[*1]:-
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/interviews-28/interview-with-patrick-volkerding-of-slackware-949029/

and more and more
developers will start writing apps with systemd, or parts of it,
as a dependency for the features it offers.

It's their choice - likewise it's your choice *not* to write
alternatives. It 'sounds' like you're proposing a regime where those
that produce have their freedom of choice constrained by users.
I struggle to find a rationale that makes that reasonable or likely to
do anything other than destroy, given that the user has a choice.

User's do constrain.

Within some limits (e.g. if the developer cares primarily about the
users i.e. if the main motivation is not to scratch an itch). And
that few users can agree on what they want except on a few minor
points, it is an impossibility to extrapolate constrain to define
individually defined outcomes. When users dictate often times
the constraint results only in the destruction of that which the
dictators hoped to shape.

They even dictate.

Some times. The most vocal minority demand - I see little evidence
that does anything but the opposite of what they expect.
Sadly many believe that criticism is a right, and also something for
which they are owed. Like similar behavior in restaurants it's
ultimately unhealthy for the consumer unless done carefully, politely,
and with the full understanding of possible reactions from the
producers.

Always have. Developers
should, if they are samrt, be developing what customers want or need.
Not the other way around. That's the formula for going out of business.
Listening to your customers as well as your potential customers is just
good business.

Sound practice in commercial enterprise - not in FOSS. And even in
commerce the business that's wise recognises it can't please everyone
so it allocates resources in the most profitable manner - which means
it never satisfies all possible customers.

Every other distro of merit has long since made the switch. We're
just late to the party. Are you just figuring it out now? Ric

Depends on what you mean by distros of merit.

Last time I checked -- two or three weeks ago -- only 6 distros
besides Jessie were using systemd as the default:

Depends on what 'you' call *default*. It implies a choice - as
opposed to *mandatory*.

You do have a choice, but ONLY after systemd is installed and the
system is running.

It will soon be possible to choose before installation. And always a reboot is

Mandatory to me would imply you cannot change it
at all. Ever. The system wouldn't work if you did. But we know that is not
the case.

More importantly it depends on whether using default as a measure of
support for your argument(?) is relevant.

Fedora 15,
RHEL 7, CentOS 7, Arch, OpenSUSE, and SUSE Server. Just read today
OpenMandriva uses it. Probably Mandriva, too. Haven't checked. So,
9 total including Jessie. In any case, not a long list.

Assuming your best intentions - that you meant supported, it's a
*much* longer list. A shorter list is those distributions that *do
not* include systemd.

I meant those distros that install systemd as the init at install
time.

Which is default and mandatory.

I don't now the answer (either way) - though I'd be interested in
knowing (CoreOS?).

I've also just read of a systemd-less fork of Jessie/Debian.
Debuan, I think it's called.

Re: Replacing systemd in Jessie

On 2 December 2014 at 23:53, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 9:04 PM, Laurent Bigonville bi...@debian.org wrote:
Le Mon, 1 Dec 2014 23:05:09 -0800,
Patrick Bartek nemomm...@gmail.com a écrit :

On Tue, 02 Dec 2014, Scott Ferguson wrote:

On 2 December 2014 at 08:18, Patrick Bartek nemomm...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2014, Ric Moore wrote:

On 11/30/2014 11:27 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:

snipped

As far as I've read, I believe only Slackware absolutely refuses to
use systemd. I don't even think it's in the repo. I don't know if
systemd will even work with Slackware.

Well according to the following wikipedia page, Patrick Volkerding
(Slackware founder) has not completely ruled you systemd:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemd#Adoption

Hmm. So I do a web search on Patrick Volkerding systemd and find
he's tweeted twice about systemd in the last four tweets. One was a
bit of an enigmatic tweet about crying into his coffee when he read
boycottsystemd.org and realized he wasn't reading the Onion.

https://twitter.com/volkerdi/status/460102616991547393

Enigmatic? Doesn't seem difficult to understand.
Patrick has a very dry sense of humor and is fond of satire. For those
that haven't read it The Onion is a satirical site (and a good
one)[*1]. When I first looked at the boycottsystemd site I thought it
was someone sending up the anti-system extremists - then I realised
they were serious.

Patrick cried in his coffee when he realised boycottsystemd was *not*
a satire. (is that less enigmatic for you?)

The response to the comments on it would be whoosh.

[*1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Onion
http://www.theonion.com/
Example of the sort of The Onion article that makes it easy to
facepalm at boycottsystemd:-
*Girl Scouts To Sell Cookies Online*
Good. This should help some of the shyer girls become more comfortable
talking to strangers online.”

He seemed pretty non-enigmatic here to:-
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/interviews-28/interview-with-patrick-volkerding-of-slackware-949029/

snipped

Kind regards

--
Just because somebody hears something you say, or reads something that you
write, doesn’t mean you’ve reached them. With reading comprehension being what
it is in the U. S., you can safely toss that one out the window. If you want to
judge by the listening habits of people who buy records, the first thing they do
is put it on and talk over it ~ Frank Zappa

--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive:
https://lists.debian.org/CAMt2cQMjAvTpditYvb=EXMjVzZ_XqM2RhjN7yNAEzE5hL=5...@mail.gmail.com

Re: Replacing systemd in Jessie

On 3 December 2014 at 01:18, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Scott Ferguson
scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2 December 2014 at 18:05, Patrick Bartek nemomm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, 02 Dec 2014, Scott Ferguson wrote:

On 2 December 2014 at 08:18, Patrick Bartek nemomm...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2014, Ric Moore wrote:

On 11/30/2014 11:27 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:

snipped
As far as I've read, I believe only Slackware absolutely refuses to use
systemd.

snipped

He's never said that (though I'd welcome an
authoritive correction). Understandably cautious for someone who
manages a huge workload almost single-handedly.
He has said he intends to remain with the current init system - that
he likes some of the abilities of systemd, and that one day he may
move to systemd.[*1] Which is not close to absolutely refuses to use
systemd.

[*1]:-
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/interviews-28/interview-with-patrick-volkerding-of-slackware-949029/

Let's quote a little bit more of that, just for completeness:

Did you read what you are responding to - or what you've just quoted??

--
... Whether we end up using them or not remains to be seen. It's quite
possible that we won't end up having a choice in the matter depending
on how development that's out of our hands goes. It's hard to say
whether moving to these technologies would be a good thing for
Slackware overall. Concerning systemd, I do like the idea of a faster
boot time (obviously), but I also like controlling the startup of the
system with shell scripts that are readable, and I'm guessing that's
what most Slackware users prefer too. I don't spend all day rebooting
my machine, and having looked at systemd config files it seems to me a
very foreign way of controlling a system to me, and attempting to
control services, sockets, devices, mounts, etc., all within one
daemon flies in the face of the UNIX concept of doing one thing and
doing it well.

...
--

That, and some tweets that are more recent than this interview, leaves
me with a slightly different impression than neutral wait-and-see.

[facepalm]

[...]

--
Joel Rees

Be careful when you look at conspiracy.
Look first in your own heart,
and ask yourself if you are not your own worst enemy.
Arm yourself with knowledge of yourself, as well.

Brilliant satire(?)

Kind regards

--
Let's not be too rough on our own ignorance; it's what makes America great! ~
Frank Zappa

--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive:
https://lists.debian.org/camt2cqnqtg2wypyw7wgtv92c4rvh10j+c9d_t+j1wxzqdjj...@mail.gmail.com

Re: Replacing systemd in Jessie

On 3 December 2014 at 01:36, The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm wrote:
On 12/02/2014 at 07:23 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote:

On 2 December 2014 at 18:05, Patrick Bartek nemomm...@gmail.com
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Dec 2014, Scott Ferguson wrote:

Depends on what 'you' call *default*. It implies a choice - as
opposed to *mandatory*.

You do have a choice, but ONLY after systemd is installed and the
system is running.

It will soon be possible to choose before installation. And always a
reboot is

(I presume this was truncated somehow?)

Yes, sorry. Flat battery - resumed from Draft and missed that.

Should have been:-
And always a reboot is necessary after installation - so a
preseed/late_command will allow you to boot for the first time into
non-systemd system.

preseed/late_command=in-target apt-get install -y sysvinit-core

A simple bash script makes rebuilding an install CD to include that
preseed parameter a simple - quick process for those that want to use
the GUI install option.

Do you have a citation for this?

I'm glad you asked.
No - I presumed that amongst the lots of experts so opposed to the
late-command option, at least one of them would apply Kenshi's patch
(which apparently works) to d-i. Was my mistake an assumption that any
of them would do more than demand? (have any of them even, including
one of the noisier posters on this list who commented in that thread,
done any of the bug-tested he widely requested?)

snipped

the decision was made that no, it won't be touched for jessie

which sounds to me as if such a change is not going to happen soon.

That I strongly suspect is correct - but not for the same reasons.

snipped

Kind regards

--
Being cynical is the only way to deal with modern civilization — you can't just
swallow it whole ~ Frank Zappa

--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive:
https://lists.debian.org/CAMt2cQMVCimPeA13jDxJ3X�gtlmzzegsyzb4tc+8cyawy...@mail.gmail.com

Re: libc6-i386 vs libc6:i386 (for vpn client)

On 1 December 2014 at 23:15, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Vi, 28 nov 14, 12:50:56, Ross Boylan wrote:
 Judging from https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO, which doesn't
 seem current but is all I could find, if I'm on the amd64 architecture
 and want to support i386 I should expect to get packages like
 libc6:i386.  There are a number of other packages that seem to have
 versions for 32 bit without needing to specify an architecture suffix,
 e.g. lib32z1 (32 bit version of zlib1g I think).

 Further, I have those packages though I don't think I installed them 
 explicitly.

 If I'm not mistaken such packages will be disappearing in the future,
 don't concern yourself too much with them.

 Finally, I have not issued the command
 dpkg --add-architecture i386
 though the wiki made it sound as if I would need to to get 32 bit libs.

 Could anyone explain what is going on and what I need to do so I can
 run a 32 bit app?  I'm trying to install Juniper Networks proprietary
 client, which includes a 32 bit library binary without the source.

 The basic steps to install a proprietary 32 bit application on an amd64
 install would be

 dpkg --add-architecture i386
 apt-get update
 dpkg -i proprietary.deb

.deb... ?

Ross - are you trying to install JN Net Connect Java client for SA?

If so - Andrei's suggestions are correct, additionally:-
;making sure you install the 64-bit JRE (either Open or Oracle)
;likewise Iceweasel and it's Java
;you'll need ia32-libs and (the 32-bit versions of) libxtst6 libxi6
libstdc++6 libxext6 libxrender1 lib32z1 lib32ncurses5 lib32bz2-1.0
;running:-
# cp /etc/resolv.conf{,.bak}
before connecting to keep you original settings

 # if dpkg complains about missing dependencies
 apt-get install -f # short for --fix-broken

 Kind regards,
 Andrei
 --
 http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser
 Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers:
 http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic
 http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt


Kind regards


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: 
https://lists.debian.org/camt2cqpxhjdvynmnfcjmj+pdh7zytajhnqzufs7xuvaaass...@mail.gmail.com

Fwd: libc6-i386 vs libc6:i386 (for vpn client)

Apologies - accidentally sent to Ross only

-- Forwarded message --
From: Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com
Date: 2 December 2014 at 08:07
Subject: Re: libc6-i386 vs libc6:i386 (for vpn client)
To: Ross Boylan rossboy...@stanfordalumni.org

On 2 December 2014 at 06:41, Ross Boylan rossboy...@stanfordalumni.org wrote:
 Thanks Andrei, Scott and Curt for your help.  I was only expecting
 help on the general 32/64 bit issues, but since you asked, here are
 some details about my particular goal.

 I am trying to install Juniper's client 8.0 software from an rpm;
 apparently they don't have a deb (there is a deb for the 7.x).

Yes. The 7.3 for Ubuntu should work for you. If you mentioned your
Debian release I missed it.

 Ideally I would skip the GUI, though I'm not sure if that's possible.
 The usual process here is to get a secure (but non-VPN) connection
 through a GUI (i.e., a browser) and then launch the java network
 connect app.  It downloads some binaries, some of which can be invoked
 independently of the web interface.

 Connecting directly to our site gets the 7.1 client because the server
 is old.  According to Juniper, only 7.3 and up work with 64 bit (in
 the rather weak sense that it can be made to work--they only
 distribute 32 bit clients).  So connect to our site and download the
 java app does not seem viable (and doesn't work, though I may still
 lack some of the 32 bit pieces).

 Juniper tech support says the 8.x client should work with the 7.x server.

Yes.

 2 outstanding issues are whether I should use 32 or 64 bit java--the
 (64 bit) instructions for 8.x say to used icedtea and don't mention
 the 32 bit version

As noted in my previous post:-
Use the 64-bit java, likewise the 64-bit icedtea for 64-bit Iceweasel

You may find madscientist's msjnc script useful, I haven't used it[*1]
but it has been recommended by colleagues:-
http://mad-scientist.net/welcome-to-the-lab/juniper-network-connect-vpn/
Most recent Juniper guide for 64-bit is here:-
http://kb.juniper.net/InfoCenter/index?page=contentid=KB25230

 --and what I should use for a certificate file.

Go to the VPN signin page and download the CAfile (DER format) and
certfile from there - certificate information, export certificate.
The realm will be shown on the same page

[*1]I run a 32-bit system as I use nothing that has sufficient gains
from 64-bit to overcome the slight speed disadvantage, so it just
works for me, and I only have to connect to very recent Junos Pulse
Appliances (now PulseSecure).

 Ross

Kind regards

-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: 
https://lists.debian.org/camt2cqmmww5tniphrx9fkdpzho+d-kxmfaxx3xd65ugsbgl...@mail.gmail.com

Re: libc6-i386 vs libc6:i386 (for vpn client)

On 2 December 2014 at 04:31, Curt cu...@free.fr wrote:
 On 2014-12-01, Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote:

 .deb... ?

 Ross - are you trying to install JN Net Connect Java client for SA?


 I thought he was trying to install this:

 http://www.scc.kit.edu/scc/net/juniper-vpn/linux/

Install or follow guide? (you generally install from the Junos appliance)
It's a guide on how to install the client to connect to (an old?) SA
series VPN at kit.edu.

Apologies if you knew that already and it just got lost in the
translation to English.

Apropos of little. The Windoof client is different to the Linux
client. The latter are just a packaged .jar

Kind regards


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: 
https://lists.debian.org/CAMt2cQN27qJK8De5Nq=1uxuvkgaosxmzfefav7j1twzyqmr...@mail.gmail.com

Re: Replacing systemd in Jessie

On 2 December 2014 at 08:18, Patrick Bartek nemomm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2014, Ric Moore wrote:

On 11/30/2014 11:27 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:

I fear that once

If?

systemd is firmly entrenched in Debian

? Perl might be, but it seems a little hyperbolic to say systemd is
(anymore then dev/devfs/Xfree-86/OpenOffice was).

as the
default init more distros will follow suit,

Very few do not include systemd. I'd welcome a definitive list of
those that don't.

and more and more
developers will start writing apps with systemd, or parts of it, as
a dependency for the features it offers.

It's their choice - likewise it's your choice *not* to write alternatives.
It 'sounds' like you're proposing a regime where those that produce
have their freedom of choice constrained by users.
I struggle to find a rationale that makes that reasonable or likely to
do anything other than destroy, given that the user has a choice.

Every other distro of merit has long since made the switch. We're
just late to the party. Are you just figuring it out now? Ric

Depends on what you mean by distros of merit.

Last time I checked -- two or three weeks ago -- only 6 distros
besides Jessie were using systemd as the default:

Depends on what 'you' call *default*. It implies a choice - as
opposed to *mandatory*.
More importantly it depends on whether using default as a measure of
support for your argument(?) is relevant.

Fedora 15,
RHEL 7, CentOS 7, Arch, OpenSUSE, and SUSE Server. Just read today
OpenMandriva uses it. Probably Mandriva, too. Haven't checked. So, 9
total including Jessie. In any case, not a long list.

Assuming your best intentions - that you meant supported, it's a
*much* longer list. A shorter list is those distributions that *do
not* include systemd.

I've also just read of a systemd-less fork of Jessie/Debian. Debuan, I
think it's called.

A novel fork in that it appears to focus more on raising money than
producing code, and that it's developers are anonymous. An
interesting concept for a FOSS project.
Aside from those peculiarities (and the hype associated with it)
perhaps it will turn out to be a more recent version of xwin?
(apologies to Keith Packard if the comparison is unjustified).

snipped

I tend to agree with Theodore Ts'o[*1] in that systemd is a worthy
project designed to fix the failings and overcome the limitations of
sysinitv, and that it 'might' be moving too fast. In that light I
applaud the Debian decision to make it the *default*[*2] in Jessie so
that it's failings can be exposed to a wider audience for the purposes
of assessment and improvement.

[*1] and Linux Torvalds, (oft misquoted)
http://www.itwire.com/business-it-news/open-source/65402-torvalds-says-he-has-no-strong-opinions-on-systemd
[*2] while maintaining support for alternative inits where individual
developer's and packager's time constraints/motivations allow.

Hopefully returning the list to it's correct discussions

Yours in Debian solidarity

--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive:
https://lists.debian.org/camt2cqn6dz1f1ehspx_kr+hb0n5ucn0sag_p5osp9r-svx5...@mail.gmail.com

Re: XDG Standard is not evil

On 2 December 2014 at 11:49, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:
Having just waded through this thread,

My sincere sympathies.

and then reading the standard itself,

Based on what you are quoting - that's the Base Directory
Specification, which is part of the XDG Standards

I can only conclude that it may not be evil but it is a horribly written
standard.

Lacking in comprehensive detail specifications?

To start with, there's absolutely no context:

Base Directory Specification

The introduction reads, simply Various specifications specify files and
file formats. This specification defines where these files should be looked
for by defining one or more base directories relative to which files should
be located.

Nothing about where the standard applies,
what kinds of files are being
talked about,

I believe the very next section entitled Basics provides an overview
that covers those items.
http://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/latest/ar01s02.html

on what kinds of systems.

Any system/application that chooses to adopt it. In terms of OS, it's
used on Linux, Mac (Apple?), and Windows.

Nothing about what the standard is to be used for.

a set of common interfaces for desktop environments

https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/Initiatives/GnomeGoals/XDGConfigFolders?action=showredirect=GnomeGoals%2FXDGConfigFolders

Nothing about who maintains the standard,

Waldo Bastian, Ryan Lortie, and Lennart Poettering are credited on the
page you referenced, anyone can contribute - simply join the mailing
lists, which is all development is done:-
http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xdg

the process by which it is
maintained and updated,

See above.

where to find the latest version.

I found them here:-
http://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/latest/

I don't know where you read your version.

No references.

The lack of any of this, makes the rest of it essentially useless.

If you expect a simple guide to the standard to include all of those
points - then you are correct.
Definitely agreed that what you've referenced is lacking in
comprehensive detail, especially the sort I'd expect to see in an ISO
standard. But then Freedesktop.org standards are not formal standards.
And unless you follow the mailing lists, and have followed the history
of X Desktop Group, it's very hard to understand.

For Linux operating system standards, please see the Linux Standard
Base project. freedesktop.org is loosely affiliated with the Free
Standards Group; the FSG is one group that does de jure standards
for free software. The X.Org Foundation and the IETF are other groups
that do *formal* standards.

Unlike these groups, freedesktop.org is just a collaboration zone
where ideas and code can be tossed around, and de facto specifications
encouraged.

Perhaps that's a difficulty inherent with a informal standard
(informal standards[*1]) built on concepts?

Some confusion lies in people confusing xdg-utils[*1] compliance and
the concepts they (the tools) are based (whacky, and unlikely, but it
is possible that some is the result of reaction to anything with
Lennart's name in it).

[*1] see /usr/share/doc/xdg-utils/README

Miles Fidelman

snipped

Kind regards

--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive:
https://lists.debian.org/CAMt2cQOowPHS_QkJta-bn8dg897Tr4wspw=arzmr_wy1tyq...@mail.gmail.com

Re: XDG Standard is not evil

On 2 December 2014 at 15:24, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:
Scott Ferguson wrote:

On 2 December 2014 at 11:49, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net
wrote:

Having just waded through this thread,

My sincere sympathies.

and then reading the standard itself,

Based on what you are quoting - that's the Base Directory
Specification, which is part of the XDG Standards

I can only conclude that it may not be evil but it is a horribly
written
standard.

Lacking in comprehensive detail specifications?

To start with, there's absolutely no context:

Base Directory Specification

The introduction reads, simply Various specifications specify files and
file formats. This specification defines where these files should be
looked
for by defining one or more base directories relative to which files
should
be located.

Nothing about where the standard applies,

Base Directory Specification, logically, precedes the Introduction.
By doing so it frames the documents i.e. provides context.

what kinds of files are being
talked about,

I believe the very next section entitled Basics provides an overview
that covers those items.
http://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/latest/ar01s02.html

No... it lists a collection of concepts, again, with no context.

Does it not mention files? Please try and interleave your responses
below the point you are replying to - this is not the Gish Gallop
mailing list.

Somehow (from XDG)
The XDG Base Directory Specification is based on the following concepts:

There is a single base directory relative to which user-specific
data files should be written. This directory is defined by the
environment variable |$XDG_DATA_HOME|.

* etc.

Is NOT context.

Nor did I say it was. I said, and the post remains unchanged - that
Base Directory is the context.

In contrast to, to pick a non-random example, the Linux Standard Base

Which demonstrates only that you ignored, or are unable to understand
the following:-

snipped

on what kinds of systems.

Any system/application that chooses to adopt it. In terms of OS, it's
used on Linux, Mac (Apple?), and Windows.

Nothing about what the standard is to be used for.

a set of common interfaces for desktop environments

https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/Initiatives/GnomeGoals/XDGConfigFolders?action=showredirect=GnomeGoals%2FXDGConfigFolders

Wow a web page, buried way deep inside a specific project's web site,
not referenced in the standard itself - does not a standard make. Maybe,
just maybe a design document.

Is that a novel way of saying Thanks Scott for doing my homework for me?

Nothing about who maintains the standard,

Again, not a standard.

Do you not understand your own comment that I was replying to Nothing
about who maintains the standard, - or are you being deliberately
obtuse, or perhaps, and I hope not - trolling?

the process by which it is
maintained and updated,

See above.

where to find the latest version.

I found them here:-
http://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/latest/

I don't know where you read your version.

Again, not stated anywhere in the standard.

I neither said nor implied that it was - nor that it *should* be. I
was simply responding to your comment with a relevance. It's the basis
of effective communication. Do try it.

No references.

The lack of any of this, makes the rest of it essentially useless.

Hence, my point. It's somewhat pretentious to call it a standard,

I fear, for lack of a better metaphor - you are trying to make a fish
out of a hat.
I took the time to read and consider what I was replying to - it would
be polite if you could reciprocate.
The XDG Base Directory standard is a defacto, informal standard.

and by
any measure of a well written, well coordinated standards document - it
simply is horrendous.

And their documents can legitimately be considered both standards, and well
written.

*Formal standards*

As is their purpose - something you seem prepared to put an inordinate
amount of effort into *not* recognizing (which the paragraph I quoted
above succinctly states), whilst adding considerable noise to the
signal.

Unlike these groups, freedesktop.org is just a collaboration zone
where ideas and code

Re: fsck fails with partition in use error after partition umount'ed

2014-11-30 Thread Scott Ferguson

On 30 November 2014 at 23:49, Joel Roth jo...@pobox.com wrote:
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 06:09:38PM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 30 November 2014 at 17:47, Joel Roth jo...@pobox.com wrote:
I notice that /dev/sdb1, an ext4 partition on a USB drive has remounted
read-only.

I try

umount /dev/sdb1

then

fsck /dev/sdb1

fsck from util-linux 2.25.2
e2fsck 1.42.12 (29-Aug-2014)
/dev/sdb1 is in use.
e2fsck: Cannot continue, aborting.

Do you still get that if you use:-
umount -vl /dev/sdb1
or:-
umount -vr /dev/sdb1

Is there a way that a volume can be in use without being
mounted?

Yes. If you have disk errors (not data, disk). It'll be prominent in
your logs (if it's a SATA grep for ATA). For your sake I hope I'm
wrong or that it's just a loose connection.

Nothing obvious in dmesg, which seems like the only relevant
log with recent entries.

syslog, kern.log, auth.log and debug show no changes since
June.

You may find that the device had problems during boot, and the fsck is
'trying' to fix them - but is unable to access the disk.

For months, maybe longer, I've had irregularities with USB
drives. When mounted for a long time, I will get errors.

It's a pain if nothing shows in the logs.
udisks --monitor or udisks --monitor-detail 'might' give you
something useful, as may udevadm monitor --kernel --udev --property
--subsystem-match=usb
(after enabling debug with udevadm control --log-priority=debug)

In this situation, I expect that if I unmount the drive, I
should be able to run fsck, not have to reboot because some
reference in the kernel/driver/fs code says the unmounted
drive is still in use.

Agreed.
What did lsof and ps aux show? (any thing useful?)

You can try (as root) instead of rebooting:-
udisk --umount $slice

If that works - try enabling udev debugging:-
udevadm control --log-priority=debug
In one terminal session run:-
udisks --monitor
And in another run:-
udevadm monitor --kernel --udev --property --subsystem-match=usb

I'd dig through lsof and ps first to 'try' and narrow down to cause.

Regards,

Joel

snipped

Kind regards

--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive:
https://lists.debian.org/camt2cqoj37vudxr7q+k5vcmwt_i8unsyddjq_nerthd0em0...@mail.gmail.com

Re: How to override fuse args to ntfs-3g to set permissions?

On 29 November 2014 at 17:06, Rick Macdonald rickm...@shaw.ca wrote:
 On 28/11/14 05:21 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
 On 28 November 2014 at 16:08, Rick Macdonald rickm...@shaw.ca wrote:

 On 25/11/14 08:46 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:

snipped


 Hey, thanks for all this!

No worries. Thanks for the feedback.

 I created a thumb drive for testing. Using the actual drive takes too long,
 as the cable is awkward, the drive spins up and down, etc.

 I added my uid/gid to the rule for jollies, so it mounts as me instead of
 root.

I'm uncertain of the advantage if you are a member of user. You can
use the USER tag in the rule to run commands as someone other than
root.

 Plex should work in either case with wide-open 777 mode.


Agreed

 ACTION==add, PROGRAM==/sbin/blkid -o value -s TYPE /dev/%k,
 RESULT==ntfs,
 ENV{mount_options}=%E{mount_options},utf8,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=000

Oddly uid=N and gid=N in the ntfs-3g man (rather than uid= and
gid=) I'm not sure if that's why mount | grep $SomeNTFSSlice
reports single digit uid and gid [puzzled]


 There was a problem in the dir_name,

Could you expand on that?

 so I changed these two lines:

 #ACTION==add, PROGRAM==/sbin/blkid -o value -s TYPE %E{device},
 RESULT==ntfs,
 ENV{mount_options}=%E{mount_options},utf8,gid=100,umask=002
 ACTION==add, PROGRAM==/sbin/blkid -o value -s TYPE /dev/%k,
 RESULT==ntfs,
 ENV{mount_options}=%E{mount_options},utf8,gid=100,umask=002

What do you get from mount -L | grep Win?

 # Get label if present, otherwise assign one
 #PROGRAM==/sbin/blkid -o value -s LABEL %E{device}, ENV{dir_name}=%c
 PROGRAM==/sbin/blkid -o value -s LABEL /dev/%k, ENV{dir_name}=%c

 When I unmount the drive, the directory is not deleted. The
 owner/permissions change from me/777 to root/755. I see you have commands
 for umount and rmdir (Clean up after removal), but I'm not sure what is
 meant to kick those off.

That /media/$NFTSSliceLABEL dir will remain. That the notoriously
fickle NTFS 'might' be damaged if the mounted NTFS device is suddenly
removed (more likely you might just get into a futile tug-of-war).
Belt and suspenders?

 I pulled out the drive without umounting first, not
 that I think you had that in mind, but that didn't change the behaviour
 (much).

Did a program have access to that file system at the time?


 It seems that only root can umount the drive, but I've seen mention of that
 for NTFS, or maybe it was udisks in general?

NTFS-3G. After digging through policy kit it 'seems' if a non-root
user who is not a member of the disk group wants to umount NTFS they
need to recompile ntfs-3g with build-in FUSE and then setuid the
resulting binary.


 Almost there!

Lots of room for improvement - if I had time I'd refine the rule to
*only* apply to a unique NTFS slice, and figure out a way so that the
slice icon that appears on XFCE desktop and in the sidebar of Thunar
*is* the mounted NTFS slice.

An alternative approach to solving the above two niggles would be to
hide the dysfunctional icons, and automagically (using udev) add an
icon to the desktop - which when clicked would umount the (WinBackup)
slice (gksudo or similar - if you use sudo that wouldn't be
necessary).


 Regards,
 Rick


Kind regards


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: 
https://lists.debian.org/CAMt2cQOdD=hpvhbjat+o29cafs+jykh93f4wxgyv7fa5+ps...@mail.gmail.com

Re: Image cloning software

On 30 November 2014 at 04:39, Miroslav Skoric sko...@eunet.rs wrote:
Is there a good software for Debian 7.7 as well as for Debian 6.10 that is
capable to produce a multi DVD/CD image of a working system, in a way that
such image can be used later as a DVD/CD installation media for 'cloning' on
the other comps (or on itself, in case of an irreparable failure of a
working machine)? Thanks.

The Live-CD project? Packages are in the Debian repositories:-
http://mklivecd.sourceforge.net/
http://live.debian.net/
I haven't used it in recent years, but I suspect with some tinkering
it could do what you want - rescue cd, with a backup of your
customisations, configurations, and home, an archive of main packages
(space providing), and a copy of dpkg --get-selections selection
which could be scripted to rebuild and/or clone a box.

aptoncd

AFAIK not in the Debian repositories - but you could try mkCDrec:-
http://mkcdrec.sourceforge.net/
...and it's successor - http://relax-and-recover.org/

There is also Debian-based Live CD, it's name escapes me, which is
kind-of Norton Ghost and it includes the ability to clone to DVD.

A simple clone (dd) would limit you to reinstalls on disks the same
size or larger - whereas cp (with the appropriate switches) will, in
most cases, work fine - if you first partition and format the new
disk. You'd need to change the UUIDs in GRUB. I've used that method
and dpkg --set-selections selections and customised /etc/skel to
do what you describe but only from disks not optical media. A little
bash scripting and bashburn or similar should make it possible to put
that onto optical media. Start the restore/clone process with a tiny
rescue cd booted toram?

Generally the process you describe is done with something like
puppet/chef etc, or preseeding PXE installs, on a larger scale (SOE
deployment).

Kind regards

--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive:
https://lists.debian.org/CAMt2cQO6pTchy1JHiLOQ20e=bad7chg3cn+yr0pfehpxpb6...@mail.gmail.com

Re: clamav-daemon broken after latest upgrade

On 30 November 2014 at 08:59, Robert S
robert.spam.me.sensel...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm running a stock-standard installation of debian (7.7).  I do regular
 security updates.
snipped

 # dpkg-reconfigure clamav-daemon
 /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: clamav-daemon is broken or not fully installed

 # apt-get upgrade gives me
 The following packages have been kept back:
  clamav clamav-freshclam clamav-milter libclamav6
 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.

 How can I resolve this?  I've tried most of the usual tricks.

Including apt-get -s dist-upgrade | less??
If not - try it, and it looks OK run it for real:-
apt-get dist-upgrade  - which will install the packages that have
been held back. I suspect that will fix the problem.

If that doesn't look like fixing your problem, then look at:-
apt-get -sf install | less - which will probably offer to remove
the clamav packages that are not fully-installed.


snipped

Kind regards


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: 
https://lists.debian.org/camt2cqn7zmcsgep0gxk_t4g3bd+k-hhn31grf61bisswqrj...@mail.gmail.com

Re: How to mount an iPod Touch

On 30 November 2014 at 09:37, Marc Shapiro marcns...@gmail.com wrote:
On 11/26/2014 01:05 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote:

'Now' I regret not keeping the notes when I setup an iPhone rule for
someone last year! :/
This time I will.

I still get no device under /dev when I plug in the iPod, but ifuse does
seem to be successfully mounting the device.

'Should' be a /media/i$Something directory created.

All I know about ifuse is what I've read in the man page:-
http://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=ifuseapropos=0sektion=0manpath=Debian+7.0+wheezyformat=htmllocale=en

Is their an info page for ifuse?
What does man -k ifuse give?

The --debug option may provide more useful information

I can traverse the fs and ls
the files just fine. Unfortunately, rhythmbox and gtkpod now see the
device, but they both insist that it is uninitialized and want to initialize
it. Since it *has* been initialized and used for several months, this would
be a *Bad Thing*.

Unfortunately, that's only to be expected from Apple...

From what I am seeing when I google the error it seems
that the problem lies with the fact that Apple keeps changing the database
format to make sure that you have to use iTunes and that the
libimobiledevice2 that is in Wheezy is still using a much older version of
the database.

Yes - one work-around (a bit like trimming your toes so you can fit
into cool shoes too small for your feet) is to use a udev rule to
launch a VirtualBox Windoof machine. The VM can be launched in
seamless mode and iTunes can be automagically be started. That will
require waiting a few minutes for iTunes to become available, but with
USB pass-though, it will allow you to access the full functionality of
your Apple device from your Debian device.

I'm not sure if libimobiledevice4 (in Jessie and Sid) is
current enough, or if I need to wait for libimobiledevice5, which is in
Experimental). There is nothing in Wheezy-Backports for the library.

You 'might' be able to simply install the
Testing/Unstable/Experimental version - backports are not always
necessary to have the latest version of a Debian package. Looking at
the dependencies and their minimum versions will tell you.

Am I interpreting this correctly, or am I way off base?

Seems correct to me. Thank you for the information.

Marc

Kind regards

--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive:
https://lists.debian.org/camt2cqo+yyzq3tmmz5jcqsvrr6k3vzvccvjuts_upc5h3pb...@mail.gmail.com

Re: Image cloning software

On 30 November 2014 at 10:53, Catalin Soare lolinux.so...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Nov 30, 2014 1:26 AM, Scott Ferguson
 scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 30 November 2014 at 04:39, Miroslav Skoric sko...@eunet.rs wrote:
  Is there a good software for Debian 7.7 as well as for Debian 6.10 that...

snipped

 There is also Debian-based Live CD, it's name escapes me, which...

snipped

 Clonezilla?

That's the one I was trying to wat-ya-ma-call-it!
Thank you Catalin.

Kind regards


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: 
https://lists.debian.org/camt2cqn_pvmsdqqvrvbuyvpt6mzakgpmmiefzkycgmqpyhn...@mail.gmail.com

Re: Creating a peculiar Live-CD

On 30 November 2014 at 02:30, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:
Scott Ferguson wrote:

On 29 November 2014 at 08:17, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:

Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:

On 11/28/14, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:

snipped

chuckle I've just proved ( again ;/ ) that my writing lacks clarity.

It's hard to describe a custom live CD in a single, small post.

Not really. I did it in a single sentence - see 3rd sentence down.

How you want to achieve something?? Not what (objectives) - which you
have expanded on in a subsequent reply to Curt. I'm still not clear on
why.

This may be an xy problem - certainly based on the expanded objectives
placing a script in /etc/rc.local to do what you describe is not the
solution - nor is placing it in init.

I believe Curt has the right idea - you want a locked-down desktop
(limits user action, wipes previous session). Depending on what your
objectives are (as opposed to how I want to do what I don't know how
to do) there are two approaches:-

*1*. If you do *not* control the hardware the end-user will run the
CD on - Build a Live-CD (see the debian packages of the same name).
Modify the live CD to install the packages you want the user to have.
lock the permission on any configuration files in their home
directory you don't want them to be able to change. Be sure to lock
down applications that allow extension/plugin additions (i.e.
Iceweasel).
Modify the logout button so that only two choices are possible - halt,
and lock screen. A Live CD will eject during the shutdown process (you
might find man halt informative).
Setup autologin without password for a single user. e.g. student
Use sudo to limit that users permissions.
Setup ssh for remote administration.
Configure the networking defaults.
That's it (apart from documentation and testing, and internet access
control which I'll cover later).

Every time the users boots from the CD they are automagically logged
into a pristine desktop with limited applications and rights. They can
install, change, or go/save/browse nowhere, that you haven't allowed.
When they shutdown the CD ejects and the box is powered off.

*2.* If you do control the hardware - why bother with the CD?
Just follow the same steps as *1.* with the additional steps of
locking down GRUB and setting boot delay to 1, copying the
modifications (locked permissions and customisation) to /etc/skel, and
adding a script to the shutdown services that runs deluser
--remove-all-records student.
The added advantage is that it'll be easier to update (and if you are
allowing internet access you need to apply updates - *even* if you use
the Live CD option).

Network/Internet restriction policy.
If you have a LAN that these users will be connected to - the best
option IMO is to restrict browing at the access point using white
lists (or blacklists if you enjoy playing pop-a-mole). Dans Guardian
(for squid) is ideal.
If that's not possible and you need to apply internet access control
at the local box level (LiveCD or HDD) the simplest approach for an
unskilled admin is to install either:-
;Parental Control GUI (which uses tinyproxy and Dans Guardian)
https://launchpad.net/webcontentcontrol/
;WebCleaner http://webcleaner.sourceforge.net/
;privoxy (it's in the Debian repository).

snipped

Dependant on what you mean by anything else... find out where
anything else is triggered and remove the trigger.

Ugh ;/ That's shutting the barn door Don't install door in first
place.

I have no idea what you are trying to say there. Could you expand on
that please.

snipped

Kind regards

--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive:
https://lists.debian.org/camt2cqpr6rn0noc-7qzeeztxpy+esbbmazemk+ngu7pftvo...@mail.gmail.com

Re: fsck fails with partition in use error after partition umount'ed