Re: youtube-dl blocked?

[Fred]

On 4/24/24 08:30, David Wright wrote:

On Wed 24 Apr 2024 at 10:50:06 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote:

On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 10:31:44PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote:

The latest version of youtube-dl , makes it too old to try to use now; if
you can get it working with youtube, good luck to you.

An unmaintained package, that is three years since last updated, for
accessing web sites on the World Wide Web?

H.


The youtube-dl package in Debian 12 is a transitional package which
brings in yt-dlp (version 2023.03.04-1 currently).

Whether that's too old to be usable is a good question, but it's
definitely not "three years since last updated".


My experience was similar to Bret's, only I'd long got used to not
just taking Debian's proferred version, but checking whether there
was a newer version somewhere around. It was in February 2023 when
I found that even the most modern version of youtube-dl that I could
find would still not work with some sites that had worked before.
That's when I stumbled upon yt-dlp, and realised the world had
quietly moved on.

This was in the days of bullseye, and note that bullseye still has
a /normal/ youtube-dl package, 34 months old, and no yt-dlp package.
For the latter, you need to be running backports (and I have no idea
when yt-dlp entered bullseye-backports).

It kind of reminds me of the mplayer, mpv, and the debian multimedia
site melange of a few years ago, only there there was more discussion
of rival versions (and the perils of using that site) on the list.

Cheers,
David.


Hi,

If you type yt-dlp --help you get a large list of options.
yt-dlp --update will get you the very latest version.  (Must be root).

Best regards,
Fred

Re: Content of /etc/ethers

[Fred]

On 1/3/24 18:07, Steve Keller wrote:

Which tools read /etc/ethers, what do they expect in there, what do
they do with the contents?  Is it only used to show names to a user or
take names from a user instead of MAC addresses, like in tcpdump?

The Linux man page says the entries in /etc/ethers should be numeric
IP addresses or names which can be resolved by DNS, while the FreeBSD
man page says there should be fully qualified names in /etc/ethers
which should also be in /etc/hosts.

But does really some tool get a MAC address from somewhere, converts
it to a name using /etc/ethers, and then expects to resolve that name
into an IP address?

I would like to put names of hosts or interfaces in there, which don't
necessarily have an IP address or no entry in /etc/hosts or DNS, like
switches, access points or routers with multiple interfaces,
interfaces of a Linux bridge, etc.

And may the entry in /etc/ethers contain a '.' to separate a name and
an interface number or VLAN ID, like host.0 and host.1 for the LAN and
WLAN interface?

Steve


Hello,

My local network uses static manually assigned IP addresses rather than 
DHCP.  Some equipment I designed needs to get an IP address so I 
implemented RARP which is fairly simple.  The /etc/ethers file is read 
by one computer on the network when it receives an RARP request and 
reports back the requester's IP address.  There is an RARP server in the 
Debian packages.


Best regards,
Fred

Re: Mouse single click handling?

[Fred]

On 12/19/23 11:48, Felix Miata wrote:

Alexander V. Makartsev composed on 2023-12-19 11:37 (UTC-0500):


local10 wrote:



I have several mice that went bad with the same defect: they sometimes generate 
two single clicks very quickly (say, within 10-20ms) instead of a single click.

This is a very common problem with micro-switches inside computer mice,
mechanical keyboards, etc.
They wear out with use and has to be replaced, given that they are very
inexpensive, standardized and relatively easy to replace.
Here is a link to PDF datasheet [1] for Omron D2F series switches
specifications.
You need a switch with pin plunger and compatible terminals, those
depend on mice model.
You can buy them at local electronics store, order them from China
(AliExpress), or from any other reputable source.



[1] https://omronfs.omron.com/en_US/ecb/products/pdf/en-d2f.pdf


Can you suggest any particular online source in North America that sells those
switches? I had no success trying to refurb one in my invaluable Logitech 
Trackman
Marble FX PS/2 trackball. It took 2 hours to get that tiny switch back together
after disassembly and cleaning. :( A Kensington Orbit I had much better luck 
with
cleaning, so didn't need a new switch.

AliExpress is reputable? That's news to me. I ordered something from it 20 
months
ago. There was a lot of back and forth email between us before I actually got
something a month later that turned out to be used rather than new, and just as
broken as the original part I was trying to replace. My credit card company
eventually issued a refund after I explained all that happened. That particular
card I rarely used, and hadn't for a number of months before that online 
purchase
or for several months after. 3 months or so after the refund, there were 4 cash
advances issued on it totaling around $8,000 on the other side of an ocean I had
never crossed. Those got reversed, but my credit rating dropped 100 points and
hasn't come near recovering.

Hi,

digikey.com and mouser.com both have microswitches and good service.  It 
will be a lot easier to throw the mouse away and get a new one.  They 
are almost dirt cheap.


Best regards,
Fred

Re: OT: Pedantic, yet wrong

[Fred]

On 6/23/23 08:12, zithro wrote:

On 23 Jun 2023 16:41, mick.crane wrote:

On 2023-06-23 11:58, Nicolas George wrote:

Andy Smith (12023-06-23):

It seemed fine the way it was. The only reason why I didn't answer
is that I don't know anything about removing systemd!


Me I know just a little about it, enough to know that discussion with
people who want to remove it but are not already capable of doing it by
themselves is a waste of time.


It's a subjective thing.
It is what it is but I do feel warmth towards those try to make it 
work without systemd.

it's not particularly logical.
mick


Yes, init freedom is subjective, it's like using Firefox or Chrome.
It's not a matter of logic ; )

I have some Debians with sysvinit, some with systemd, both work.
Switching from systemd to sysv following the Debian wiki page was 
painless, although I mostly did it on "small hosts", with not much 
packages installed.


Maybe installs with many packages are harder to manage ?
Because you have to be careful during package management, some commands 
would propose to remove sysv and install systemd instead !

I guess not all packages are "sysv aware" (or rather non-systemd aware).
I suggest non-systemd init users (sysv, rc,...) to use --dry-run and 
--no-install-recommends during package management, it can help.


But for the OP, who iirc asked if he should switch to sysv -before- or 
-after- the bookworm update, I have no idea.
I updated sysv- and systemd-based Debians from bullseye to bookworm 
without problems, but didn't try the switch since, from a bookworm host.

YMMV !


Or you could try Devuan which is Debian without systemd.

Re: 60-serial.rules, broken

[Fred]

On 6/14/23 09:22, Sascha Silbe wrote:

Hello Gene,

gene heskett  writes:

[udev update from proposed-updates]

I couldn't figure how to dl the file, so I snapshoted the diff screen
from [1], and will compare it to what I have from the patch, which it
appears I have not done to this machine, as I have /dev/serial/by-path
only here, no by-id.  This bug is a showstopper for users of 3d printers.



Warning: Only do any of the following on a host you can afford to
break. If systemd malfunctions you may not even be able to boot the
system any more.


*-proposed-updates is an APT repository. The easiest way to access it is
to add it to sources.list:

=== Begin ===
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye-proposed-updates main
=== End ===

I added an APT preferences rule (create a file for it in
/etc/apt/preferences.d/) to update all systemd packages from
bullseye-proposed-updates:

=== Begin ===
Explanation: Pull in fix for Debian#1035094 before next point release
Package: libnss-myhostname libnss-mymachines libnss-resolve libnss-systemd 
libpam-systemd libsystemd0 libsystemd-dev libsystemd-shared libudev1 
libudev1-udeb libudev-dev systemd systemd-boot systemd-boot-efi 
systemd-container systemd-coredump systemd-dev systemd-homed 
systemd-journal-remote systemd-oomd systemd-resolved 
systemd-standalone-sysusers systemd-standalone-tmpfiles systemd-sysv 
systemd-tests systemd-timesyncd systemd-userdbd udev udev-udeb
Pin: release n=bullseye-proposed-updates
Pin-Priority: 990
=== End ===

Then just upgrade like usual using APT.

If you want to download the packages manually (which gets tedious fast)
you can find them in the systemd directory [1] in the package
pool. bullseye-proposed-updates currently points at 247.3-7+deb11u3 (see
e.g. the amd64 Packages.xz [2]).


Sascha

[1] http://deb.debian.org/debian/pool/main/s/systemd/
[2] 
http://deb.debian.org/debian/dists/bullseye-proposed-updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages.xz

Hi,
If systemd is a problem you could try using Devuan Linux.  Devuan is 
Debian without systemd.

Best regards,
Fred

OT: flatcam, pcb2gcode

[Fred]

Hello,

Has anyone successfully installed a working version of either flatcam or 
pcb2gcode?


How?

Best regards,
Fred

Re: hi res pdf needs posterized

[Fred]

On 4/17/23 11:55, gene heskett wrote:

Greetings all printing experts;

I have an extremely high res pdf of a 3d printer controller board.
I need to print it in the same or close, resolution I can see it on 
screen in libreoffice draw. But its equ to 26" wide! So the ideal 
printout would be posterized on 2 sheets of photo paper at about 85% 
size. But I can't find a poster recipe in OO-draw.


What the next best way to handle such a pdf to get an image big enough 
to easily read pin numbers etc ? cut in half down the middle and put on 
2 pages of foto paper would be ideal. poster reads like it but expects 
ps  or better eps src. I found pdfposter but it will not accept letter 
as a -m BOX definition. This image it claim will be rotated to portrait 
mode, and 2 8.5x11 pages high laid landscape would be just right with -s 
.80 option to reduce the height to 2 page tall.


Cheers, Gene Heskett.

Hi Gene,

If you live close to a large city there will be printing shops that 
serve surveyors that can print large format files.  Some Office Max 
stores can also print large format files.


Best regards,
Fred

Re: questions about cron.daily

[Fred]

On 4/6/23 09:44, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:


crontab -l

Pierre Frenkiel

On Thu, 6 Apr 2023, Fred wrote:


On 4/6/23 08:33, Andy Smith wrote:

Hello,

On Thu, Apr 06, 2023 at 07:33:26PM +0800, cor...@free.fr wrote:

For scripts put under /etc/cron.daily, which special time will they be
implemented?


Greg already showed you how to check this on your own systems.

If you need something to run daily but at a specific time, consider
instead either creating a custom cron job in /etc/cron.d/ (or a
user's crontab) or else using a systemd timer.


I found some services like apache2, chkrootkit will put the scripts in
this dir automatically. are they for system cleaning purpose?


The purpose of cron.daily is literally to run scripts daily for
*whatever purpose each script has*. If you have questions about what
a specific script does, try looking at it, as it's just an
executable script (usually sh or bash). If you're still confused
then ask a specific question about a specific script.

Cheers,
Andy

I also would like to know when cron.daily scripts run.  Greg's command 
does not appear to reveal the time for that script.  I ran Greg's 
command and got the same result.


Best regards,
Fred


fred@ragnok:~$ crontab -l
no crontab for fred

root@ragnok:/home/fred# crontab -l
no crontab for root

best regards,
Fred

Re: questions about cron.daily

[Fred]

On 4/6/23 08:33, Andy Smith wrote:

Hello,

On Thu, Apr 06, 2023 at 07:33:26PM +0800, cor...@free.fr wrote:

For scripts put under /etc/cron.daily, which special time will they be
implemented?


Greg already showed you how to check this on your own systems.

If you need something to run daily but at a specific time, consider
instead either creating a custom cron job in /etc/cron.d/ (or a
user's crontab) or else using a systemd timer.


I found some services like apache2, chkrootkit will put the scripts in
this dir automatically. are they for system cleaning purpose?


The purpose of cron.daily is literally to run scripts daily for
*whatever purpose each script has*. If you have questions about what
a specific script does, try looking at it, as it's just an
executable script (usually sh or bash). If you're still confused
then ask a specific question about a specific script.

Cheers,
Andy

I also would like to know when cron.daily scripts run.  Greg's command 
does not appear to reveal the time for that script.  I ran Greg's 
command and got the same result.


Best regards,
Fred

Re: Debian Server

[Fred]

On 3/13/23 08:55, Dan Ritter wrote:

malpaso wrote:

*Hello!!!Please, I'm looking for guidance to set up a Server, it will not
be public, to host a flight simulator called Falcon BMS, about 12 people
flying online, the machine would be an I5 with 16 GB of RAM, Video Card GTX
1050 TI and a 480 GB SSD, please what would you guide me in this assembly,
I intend not to install Windows on the PC.I've been researching on the
internet and I got to Debian, please, I'm looking for guidance because I
don't understand this subject!Thanks in advance for any helpmalpaso*



From looking at the wiki, it appears that Falcon BMS requires

Falcon 4.0, which is only available on Windows.

If that is the case, this will not work.

-dsr-


Hi,

The flight simulator might run under wine which is available for Debian 
or the reasonably priced commercial version, Crossover.  The wine and 
crossover web sites probably still have a list of Windows programs that 
are known to run.


Best regards,
Fred

Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones

[Fred]

On 2/16/23 08:41, Greg Wooledge wrote:

It's tax season again, so once again I am putting myself through the
utter hell that is attempting to print my city's Income Tax Forms.

(Yes, this is mandatory.  No, they do not accept electronic submissions.
You must use paper and ink.  Yes, they require you to print your own
forms.  No, they will not mail you a form.)

Whatever I managed to do last year... it's not working this year.  I can
only assume that my workplace's lovely IT department has taken even more
drastic steps in their eternal war against anything that isn't blessed
by Microsoft, and isn't under their control.

When I tried to print this year's tax form to my local printer, I learned
that the default print queue I had set up last year is no longer there.

This led to a complete rerun of everything from last year -- going up to
the printer, looking at the piece of paper attached to the front of it
which has the IP address (same one -- 10.76.172.100), attempting to
find a queue in CUPS which matches up with that, sending print jobs to
what *appears* to be the correct printer, having no paper come out, etc.

Eventually I unearthed this thread, which had some advice which worked
in the past.

It is not working today.

Here's a run-down:

1) Someone suggested: avahi-discover -r _print-caps._tcp
When I tried it last year, it simply hung with no visible output
until Ctrl-C'ed.

This year, I ran it while physically present in the workplace, so now
I know why it hangs.  It pops up an X11 window.  Only after you close
that X11 window does it print results on the terminal.

That's extremely difficult to detect or deal with when you're ssh-ing
in, running commands in a screen session.

2) Also suggested: avahi-browse -rt _ipp._tcp
This year, the output of that command no longer contains my printer's
IP address.  Last year, it did.  I have no idea why this has changed.

3) Also suggested: driverless
Here's what I get this year:

wooledg:~$ driverless
ipp://Canon%20LBP712Cdn%20(db%3Ac0%3Ad3)._ipp._tcp.local/

That's all.  And no, that's not the right printer.  That's the one
that has the right model number, but isn't *mine*.  I can only imagine
it's somewhere else on this floor, and that someone is very confused
upon seeing income tax forms coming out of it.

4) Also mentioned: port 9100.
For grins, I did "telnet 10.76.172.100 9100" and after that connected
I typed "HELLO WORLD", then pressed Enter, then Ctrl-] q Enter to
close the telnet session.

That actually printed the words HELLO WORLD on a sheet of paper.

So the printer WORKS.  It is ON THE NETWORK.  I can print TEXT to it
using port 9100.

What I CANNOT do is find it in CUPS.  Or avahi-browse, or driverless, or
any of these other commands that are so allegedly wonderful.

Is there any way I can tell CUPS "Please set up a queue for a printer
whose IP address is 10.76.172.100 even though you can't discover it with
your fancy tools"?

Or do I need to use a Windows PC/Laptop to print this stupid form?

Oh, and if it's any help, here's everything that's on the piece of paper
attached to the printer (I took a picture of it with a cell phone, and
carried the phone back to my desk so I can type it all out):

D#: D14841
P#:
IP: 10.76.172.100
Queue \\SPS\S010NEURD14841M
Model # Canon LBP712Cdn
Serial # NGDA008248
Bldg: S
Flr: 10
Zone: Main
Room: 007
Epic ID
Notes B9754

My burning hatred of printers and this printing system remains unquenched.


HI,

I use ftp to send postscript files to my Lexmark printer.  I am not sure 
cups is even installed.  You might also try netcat since you have the ip 
address of the printer.

Best regards,
Fred

Re: stopping mass surveillance

[Fred]

On 12/15/22 17:34, operation.privacyenforcem...@secure.mailbox.org wrote:

Dan Ritter wrote:

operation.privacyenforcem...@mailbox.org wrote:
On 1/9/84 19:84, Jeremy Hendricks message was saved by the all seeing 
eye:

Please provide code examples, flow chart, or a white paper.


Releasing anything of requested documents is not desired yet. The 
idea is
not patented yet and will make the developers a high value target for 
a lot

of agencies worldwide.


If your project is going to be patented, it can't be part of
Debian unless you want to give a patent license to everyone in
the world, which defeats the point of patenting it in the first
place.


A patent can protect only a brand or product name.


A patent doesn't protect anything.  It provides a place to register the 
inventor.  If the patent is infringed the inventor has the right to hire 
an attorney and sue.  It is entirely up to the patent holder protect his 
patent.






I am looking for people, developers, companies that would be 
interested in
using or developing such a solution, planning a commercial high price 
launch
on the market, licensed will be current revisions. Older revisions 
with less
features or security will be released under an open source license. 
If this

is impossible I am open minded to release the idea confidentially to a
trustworthy developer group of an open source project to let them 
develop it
and make it available as FLOSS completely for everyone. It needs to 
be built

before privacy is dead, with or without earning money. It needs to be
enforced before we will loose privacy forever.


Governments, police, politicians will be excluded via license in any 
case.


None of the open source licenses that Debian will accept can be
limited in that way, so, again, Debian is not the home for your
project.


This

 >> I am open minded to release the idea confidentially to a
 >> trustworthy developer group of an open source project to let them 
develop it
 >> and make it available as FLOSS completely for everyone. It needs to 
be built

 >> before privacy is dead, with or without earning money. It needs to be
 >> enforced before we will loose privacy forever.

would match Debians policies?




Curious about everyones opinion regarding this.


It might be interesting, but it's definitely not suitable for
this mailing list.


I wanted to request a feedback how important this topic seems to be for 
the Debian user base, would you use it? Would you prefer it to be open 
source? Do you feel unprotected on Debian? Do you think this is neccessary?
Later I want to find potentially interested developers if the Debian 
priciples would be applied and released completely FLOSS.


The release of the solution is more important then profit.

operation privacyenforcement

Fwd: [DNG] an AI opinion about systemd

[Fred]

 Forwarded Message 
Subject: [DNG] an AI opinion about systemd
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2022 20:15:06 +0100
From: Jaromil 
To: d...@lists.dyne.org


dear dng'ers

just for fun and to my great surprise, today I asked chatGPT about systemd

the oracle AIsplained me...


Systemd is a software suite that provides a number of system management 
services for the UNIX ecosystem, such as process and session management, 
system logging, and network configuration. While systemd has been widely 
adopted by many UNIX-based operating systems, it has also been 
criticized for bringing a dangerous centralization of services to the 
UNIX ecosystem.


One of the main criticisms of systemd is that it creates entangling 
dependencies throughout the system. This means that different services 
and components of the operating system are tightly integrated with each 
other, and rely on each other to function properly. This can make the 
system more complex and fragile, as a failure in one component can have 
cascading effects throughout the system.


Another criticism of systemd is that it creates a design lock-in, where 
the operating system is tied to the specific design and implementation 
of systemd. This means that other system management services cannot be 
easily used with the operating system, and developers are effectively 
forced to use systemd if they want to provide certain services. This is 
seen as a dangerous centralization of power, as the design and 
implementation of systemd is governed unilaterally by the developers of 
systemd.


Overall, the centralization of services brought about by systemd has led 
to concerns about the complexity and fragility of the UNIX ecosystem, as 
well as the potential for a design lock-in that is governed by a single 
group of developers. This has led to calls for alternative approaches to 
system management in the UNIX ecosystem that are more decentralized and 
flexible.




:^D


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Dng mailing list
d...@lists.dyne.org
https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

A good reason to change to Devuan which is Debian without systemd.

Best regards,
Fred

Re: general squawk about unattended-upgrade

[Fred]

On 11/16/22 13:55, gene heskett wrote:

On 11/16/22 14:17, Charles Curley wrote:

On Wed, 16 Nov 2022 13:03:20 -0500
gene heskett  wrote:


Please relay to the devs that this utility is dangerous, and needs the
ability to scan the system for stuff that cannot be interrupted, and
exit quietly if it finds one of the un-interruptables running.


Did you have Unattended-Upgrade::Automatic-Reboot set to true? If so,
set it to false. Similarly
Unattended-Upgrade::Automatic-Reboot-WithUsers.

You can file a bug report yourself.

You could also write a wrapper for octoprint which disables
unattended-upgrades, runs octopprint, then enables unattended-upgrades.

With my luck and systemd doing as it DW pleases, what guarantee do I 
have that systemd won't re-enable it?  At one point long ago WE were 
masters of our machines, now Leonard thinks he is master of all & WE 
don't count or care.


Take care and stay well.

Cheers, Gene Heskett.


You could change over to Devuan which is Debian without systemd.

Best regards,
Fred

Re: t-bird screwing up

[Fred]

On 10/30/22 07:54, gene heskett wrote:

Greetings all;

One or maybe more of my t-bird msg filters has gotten the path to move a 
msg to local folders/name
has somehow gotten contaminated with a "nobody" user in the path, which 
of course does not exist,
so apparently that filter is sending msgs from a good friend to 
/dev/null.  This is not at all nice.


How to fix, I can't find it in any of the config options.

Thanks all for any help. In the meantime I'll nuke the malformed filter

Cheers, Gene Heskett.


I am having trouble with T-bird also (102.3.0 32 bit).  The address book 
is no longer on the normal message page but is now under tools. 
However, it does not scroll.  Furthermore the hiding scroll bar on 
T-bird and Firefox is really annoying.  Something that isn't broken 
should not be "fixed".


Best regards,
Fred

Re: how do i configure lynx browser as default browser for html

[Fred]

On 9/28/22 06:01, jindam, vani wrote:

So you use openbox... and what, startx?  Or some Display Manager (DM)?

i have installed debian on userland app.
trying to use or familiarise with linux.
i think i am not using any DM.


Also, how are you launching your "default browser"?  Please be precise
and specific.

right clicking provides box with terminal
emulator, web browser, debian, etc..
of openbox menu. clicking browser fails
with message "failed to execute child
process "x-www-browser" (no such file
or directory). my issue is not with this
message.


Are you clicking underlined URLs in a
terminal emulator (if so, which one)?  Clicking links in a GUI mail user
agent (if so, which one)?  Something else?

i am trying to launch browser button
on wikipedia wpcleaner. it was working for
palemoon.



I also find it quite strange that you're inter-mixing GUI and terminal web 
browsers (e.g. palemoon and lynx) and thinking
that you can drop one of them into a configuration slot that expects the other.

so, i am mixing things.

my assumption of configuring a default
browser will not work w/o some kind of
wrapper on linux.

regards,
jindam, vani

toots: @jindam_v...@c.im
others: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jindam_vani

The (right click) openbox menu comes from an .xml file in 
$HOME/.config/openbox.  You can edit this so the menu entries will start 
the programs you want.  The default menu.xml probably is defferent from 
what you want.


Best regards,
Fred

Re: digikam import fails

[Fred]

On 6/16/22 13:23, gene heskett wrote:

On 6/16/22 15:42, mick crane wrote:

On 2022-06-16 20:19, gene heskett wrote:


The shell I ran digikam from is reporting screens full of
missing this and that despite the installation of digikam
pulling in:
 0 upgraded, 261 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 273 MB of archives.
After this operation, 726 MB of additional disk space will be used.

Then when I run it, there are hundred of missing that and than lines
spit out in the shell I launched it from.


try gphoto2 ?
if camera is on list
http://gphoto.org/proj/libgphoto2/support.php
should you not be able to mount it as a filesystem ?
I like geeqie for viewing images.

mick


I installed it, but:
gene@coyote:~$ sudo apt install gphoto2
[sudo] password for gene:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
The following additional packages will be installed:
   libcdk5nc6
Suggested packages:
   gthumb
The following NEW packages will be installed:
   gphoto2 libcdk5nc6
0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 320 kB of archives.
After this operation, 1,341 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
Get:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye/main amd64 libcdk5nc6 amd64 
5.0.20180306-3 [129 kB]
Get:2 http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye/main amd64 gphoto2 amd64 
2.5.27-1 [191 kB]

Fetched 320 kB in 0s (858 kB/s)
Selecting previously unselected package libcdk5nc6:amd64.
(Reading database ... 136011 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../libcdk5nc6_5.0.20180306-3_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking libcdk5nc6:amd64 (5.0.20180306-3) ...
Selecting previously unselected package gphoto2.
Preparing to unpack .../gphoto2_2.5.27-1_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking gphoto2 (2.5.27-1) ...
Setting up libcdk5nc6:amd64 (5.0.20180306-3) ...
Setting up gphoto2 (2.5.27-1) ...
Processing triggers for man-db (2.9.4-2) ...
Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.31-13+deb11u3) ...
-.-.-.
gene@coyote:~$ gphoto2
Usage: gphoto2 [-?qvalLnPTDR] [-?|--help] [--usage] [--debug]
     [--debug-loglevel=STRING] [--debug-logfile=FILENAME] [-q|--quiet]
     [--hook-script=FILENAME] [--stdout] [--stdout-size] 
[--auto-detect]
     [--show-exif=STRING] [--show-info=STRING] [--summary] 
[--manual] [--about]
     [--storage-info] [--shell] [-v|--version] [--list-cameras] 
[--list-ports]
     [-a|--abilities] [--port=FILENAME] [--speed=SPEED] 
[--camera=MODEL]

     [--usbid=USBIDs] [--config] [--list-config] [--list-all-config]
     [--get-config=STRING] [--set-config=STRING] 
[--set-config-index=STRING]
     [--set-config-value=STRING] [--reset] [--keep] [--keep-raw] 
[--no-keep]

     [--wait-event=COUNT, SECONDS, MILLISECONDS or MATCHSTRING]
     [--wait-event-and-download=COUNT, SECONDS, MILLISECONDS or 
MATCHSTRING]
     [--capture-preview] [--show-preview] [-B|--bulb=SECONDS] 
[-F|--frames=COUNT]

     [-I|--interval=SECONDS] [--reset-interval] [--capture-image]
     [--trigger-capture] [--capture-image-and-download]
     [--capture-movie=COUNT or SECONDS] [--capture-sound]
     [--capture-tethered=COUNT, SECONDS, MILLISECONDS or MATCHSTRING]
     [-l|--list-folders] [-L|--list-files] [-m|--mkdir=DIRNAME]
     [-r|--rmdir=DIRNAME] [-n|--num-files] [-p|--get-file=RANGE]
     [-P|--get-all-files] [-t|--get-thumbnail=RANGE] 
[-T|--get-all-thumbnails]
     [--get-metadata=RANGE] [--get-all-metadata] 
[--upload-metadata=STRING]
     [--get-raw-data=RANGE] [--get-all-raw-data] 
[--get-audio-data=RANGE]
     [--get-all-audio-data] [-d|--delete-file=RANGE] 
[-D|--delete-all-files]
     [-u|--upload-file=FILENAME] [--filename=FILENAME_PATTERN] 
[-f|--folder=FOLDER]
     [-R|--recurse] [--no-recurse] [--new] [--force-overwrite] 
[--skip-existing]

gene@coyote:~$


IOW, that didn't work either if its supposed to be gnomes answer to 
digikam.


Next?
Thanks Mick. Take care and stay well.

.



Cheers, Gene Heskett.

Hi,
I use this in a script called get_photo for downloading:

#!/bin/sh
gphoto2 --auto-detect --skip-existing -P

Best regards,
Fred

Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones

[Fred]

On 4/8/22 10:22, Greg Wooledge wrote:

On Fri, Apr 08, 2022 at 06:03:47PM +0100, Tixy wrote:

On Fri, 2022-04-08 at 17:59 +0100, Tixy wrote:

On Fri, 2022-04-08 at 12:10 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:

Unfortunately, I was not able to find ANY way to determine the IP
addresses of the autodetected printers that were presented to me.


If I go to http://localhost:631/printers/


I should say I got to that URL from the CUPs interface at
http://localhost:631/ then clicking the 'Admininitation' tab at the top
followed by the 'Manage Printers' button on the page that showed.


Here is what I have on that page:

=
Showing 7 of 7 printers.

Queue Name  Description LocationMake and Model  Status
Canon_LBP351dn_f9_7a_4a_CNLBP712C CNLBP712C, 
driverless, cups-filters 1.28.7Idle
Canon_LBP712Cdn_db_c0_d3_   Canon_LBP712Cdn_db_c0_d3_   
CNLBP712C CNLBP712C, driverless, cups-filters 1.28.7Idle
Cups_PDF_oc3261540276   Cups_PDF_oc3261540276   Local Raw Printer   
Paused
HP_LaserJet_4100_Series_0001E6A68D3D_   HP_LaserJet_4100_Series_0001E6A68D3D_   
HP LaserJet 4100 Series , driverless, cups-filters 1.28.7   Idle
hp_LaserJet_4250_621E13_hp_LaserJet_4250_621E13_hp 
LaserJet 4250, driverless, cups-filters 1.28.7   Idle
HP_LaserJet_P3010_Series_0FCDD7_HP_LaserJet_P3010_Series_0FCDD7_
HP LaserJet P3010 Series, driverless, cups-filters 1.28.7   Idle
PostScript_oc3261540276 PostScript_oc3261540276 Local Raw Printer   
Paused
=

Of course it looks like crap when I just paste the text from the web
page into an email.  But if you ignore the horrible formatting, you
can see there are NO IP addresses here.

If I go to a single printer's page, I get text like this:

=
Canon_LBP351dn_f9_7a_4a_
Canon_LBP351dn_f9_7a_4a_ (Idle, Accepting Jobs, Not Shared, Server Default)

Maintenance
  
Administration
Description:
Location:   
Driver: CNLBP712C CNLBP712C, driverless, cups-filters 1.28.7 (color, 2-sided 
printing)
Connection: implicitclass://Canon_LBP351dn_f9_7a_4a_/
Defaults:   job-sheets=none, none media=na_letter_8.5x11in sides=one-sided
=

Maybe I need to amend the question to "How is one supposed to figure out
which autodetected printer is which IN A CORPORATE NETWORK OF UNKNOWN
PROVENANCE?"  I don't know what I need to say to convey to you that
my workplace's network DOES NOT work like what you see on yours.

Looking at the stuff that I pasted here, how am I supposed to know whether
this corresponds to the physical printer with IP address 10.76.172.100?


Have you tried asking the IT dept.?

Best regards,
Fred

Re: What do we have that will save a manpage as we see it on-screen

[Fred]

On 10/1/21 1:59 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:

On Friday 01 October 2021 12:34:16 Larry Martell wrote:

man -t /path/to/man/file >file.txt
groff -mandoc /path/to/man/file > file.txt, both quadrupled the size with
lots more markup.

Not what I want obviously.

Thanks Larry.

Cheers, Gene Heskett.


man command | col -b > command.txt

Best regards,
Fred

Re: Your Thoughts on Printer Replacement

[Fred]

On 9/18/21 2:00 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote:

On Sat, Sep 18, 2021 at 10:38:03AM +0200, Klaus Singvogel wrote:

Charles Curley wrote:

I print rarely. Inkjet or laser? Or other? The carts on the L7700 tend
to go bad before they empty,


Rarely printing? I would suggest a laser


I agree. Toner doesn't spoil sat there doing nothing for long periods of
time, whereas the ink for inkjets can do.
The next question then becomes: mono or colour?


Brand? The situation current is this, that only HP released their printer
drivers as Open Source (at least 99% of them).


The direction of travel for printing is entirely driverless, so this is
less important than it used to be. And indeed, driverless printing is a
lot less of a headache to administrate, IMHO, than drivered - even with
open source drivers.

If I were looking for a new laser printer today I'd look at Lexmark (on
a recommendation from a friend), the firmware for which is apparently
based on Yocto Linux.



Hello,
I have a Lexmark E260dn which has Postscript, double side, Ethernet and 
USB, parallel, monochrome.  It usually works fine but apparently the 
toner stirrer doesn't work well.  The toner light comes on occasionally 
requiring the toner cartridge to be removed and shaken.  The printer is 
all plastic and not very expensive but the toner cartridges are a bit 
expensive.  The cartridge has a sensor built in that keeps up with the 
number of copies so you can't refill the cartridge as there is no way to 
reset the sensor.  You have to use Lexmark's exchange program.  I don't 
know if it needs drivers to work with CUPS.  I just ftp files to it and 
it always prints them.


I read on this list a few years ago that the best printers are used HP 
office models.


Best regards,
Fred

Re: how to change debian installation mirror list?

[Fred 1]

On 24/08/2021 02:00, Dan Ritter wrote:

Fred 1 wrote:

I would like to know where the installation pulls the  list of Debian
mirrors.

hope I can change it and rebuild the netinstall ISO with jigdo maybe ?

It would be nice if I could manually add a custom one during install, but I
didn't see such option, strictly just pick from the list

You can do it in an expert install, or you can pause the install
and edit /etc/apt/sources.list, or you could use FAI, or you
could intercept DNS queries, or ...

What is the actual problem you are trying to solve? The best
answer might not have occurred to you.

Read https://xyproblem.info/


-dsr-


Thanks, I tried the textual install, so yes the first option to manual 
add the debian mirror,


must have missed it in the graphical install.

Anyway, as for changing the list, I suspect unlikely the list comes from 
sources.list,


surely the installation will WRITE the sources.list based on your selection.

Thanks

how to change debian installation mirror list?

[Fred 1]

I would like to know where the installation pulls the  list of Debian 
mirrors.


hope I can change it and rebuild the netinstall ISO with jigdo maybe ?

It would be nice if I could manually add a custom one during install, 
but I didn't see such option, strictly just pick from the list


Thanks

Re: apt-get and signatures couldn't be verified etc

[Fred 1]

vagrant@buster:/mnt/debian_build/apt-1.8.2.3$ ls -ld /var/lib/apt 
/var/lib/apt/lists /var/lib/apt/lists/partial

drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 Aug 17 04:22 /var/lib/apt
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Aug 18 01:12 /var/lib/apt/lists
drwx-- 2 _apt root 4096 Aug 18 01:12 /var/lib/apt/lists/partial

sudo apt install  debian-archive-keyring
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
debian-archive-keyring is already the newest version (2019.1+deb10u1).
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.


So looks like that much is ok..


must have some configuration still wrong.

On 18/08/2021 11:38, debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org wrote:


note.1
Description: Unix manual page

apt-get and signatures couldn't be verified etc

[Fred 1]

i'm on a buster64 vagrant instance, and building an armel distro, using 
a build.sh, multistrap etc


Anyway its undone with all the

"W: Download is performed unsandboxed as root as file 
'/mnt/debian_build/rootfs/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/deb.debian.org_debian_dists_stable_InRelease' 
couldn't be accessed by user '_apt'. - pkgAcquire::Run (13: Permission 
denied)
W: GPG error: http://deb.debian.org/debian stable InRelease: The 
following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not 
available: NO_PUBKEY 04EE7237B7D453EC NO_PUBKEY 648ACFD622F3D138 
NO_PUBKEY DCC9EFBF77E11517
E: The repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian stable InRelease' is not 
signed.

"

yes i've found the threadds about adding the keys , gpg and all that

- didn't work

sure...

--allow-unauthenticated
   Ignore if packages can't be authenticated and don't prompt 
about it. This can be useful while working with local
   repositories, but is a huge security risk if data 
authenticity isn't ensured in another way by the user itself. The
   usage of the Trusted option for sources.list(5) entries 
should usually be preferred over this global override.

   Configuration Item: APT::Get::AllowUnauthenticated.

trouble is it only half works

or am I misunderstanding the man page ? ..which wouldn't surprise 
me, lost count of number of times peering through man pages


completely obtuse and wrong.

$ apt --version
apt 1.8.2.3 (amd64)

looking at the source code, looks like some cases of should be skipping 
the verify fail for "allow-unauthenticated"


and not understanding why

Changed the code and got much further.


addendum: got to the repo for https://salsa.debian.org/apt-team/apt

its version is 2.3.8, so not sure why update on buster64 didn't have 
this version


some preliminary diff analysis still seems to be that 
"allow-unauthenticated" is NOT going to fully work the way I understand 
it should..?

Re: need to run the windows version of cura for amd64

[Fred]

On 2/25/21 12:50 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:

Greetings all;

I may have made a mistake, but I bought a dremel digilab 3d45 FDM
printer, aka a 3d printer. A better printer in the medium priced
category at a bit over $1800 from Amazon.

I have the appimage of cura but that version has no knowledge of this
printer, so it abuses it very noisily. The two major diffs are that the
dremel apparently considers the right rear of the plate as home, whereas
the ender3 I also have uses the left front corner as home.

They have an adapted version of cura for a free download, but only in
Win64 and mac os versions, no appimages in sight.

So, what is the best winderz emulator we have, to run this:

Dremel3DSlicer-1.2.3-win64.exe

Which file says is a:

Dremel3DSlicer-1.2.3-win64.exe: PE32 executable (GUI) Intel 80386, for MS
Windows, Nullsoft Installer self-extracting archive

I have no experience wrangling wine or whatever.

Thanks all;

Cheers, Gene Heskett


Hi Gene,

Several years ago I needed a Windows emulator to run a pal programmer. 
I found that the application program would run fine with wine but it 
expected to load a custom hardware driver which Linux would not allow. 
I think you are going to run into the same problem with your printer.  I 
believe wine will work with serial and parallel ports if the application 
goes through Linux but a custom driver won't work.


There is a commercial version of wine called Crossover which is not 
unreasonably expensive.  I suggest you check with them on the state of 
application program drivers. www.codeweavers.com


Best regards,
Fred

printer perikelen

[Fred]

Ik ben alweer enige tijd bezig om mijn printer via een asus router aan 
de praat te krijgen.
Ik moet zeggen met wisselend succes en de reden daarvoor begrijp ik 
niet.
Het gaat om een brother DCP-195C die ik aan heb gesloten via een 
AT-AC68U Asus router en via Debian 10 wil laten printen.


Het is een oude maar nog werkende printer en waar ik plezier zou hebben 
om deze aan de gang te krijgen.
Zoals gezegd; Soms doet hij het wel en soms niet en dit is vooral jammer 
omdat hij het niet doet als ik heb nodig heb.


Omdat o.a de drivers alleen voor de 32-bits pc zijn en de boel toch wat 
gedateerd is wil is toch opzoek naar een betrouwbare en onder linux goed 
werkende printer. Misschien dat ik daarvoor hier wat suggesties vind.


Fred

Re: SanDisk USB stick problem [solved]

[Fred]

On 12/8/20 9:39 PM, David Christensen wrote:

On 2020-12-08 07:29, Fred wrote:

Hello,

I bought a SanDisk Cruzer Glide USB stick.  The fine print on the 
package says it has SecureAccess software.  It is so secure it 
prevents me from writing to it without running the included Bill Gates 
cancerous, virus infested, scourge of the Earth software.


fred@ragnok:/media/usb0$ ls -l
total 8416
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root   16384 Jul  9  2018 SanDiskSecureAccess
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8600360 Nov  4  2016 
SanDiskSecureAccessV3.01_win.exe

fred@ragnok:/media/usb0$


I have many SanDisk USB flash drives, including several Cruzer Glide. 
They typically have an MBR partition scheme and one large VFAT or NTFS 
partition.



"SanDisk Secure Access" is optional Windows encryption software that is 
bundled with SanDisk USB flash drives.  Use it, ignore it, or delete it 
as you please; the software is not required to use the drive on any 
computer that supports the factory partitioning scheme and filesystem.


When I was denied permission to write a file to the device as a regular 
user I checked the permissions and then discovered root could not change 
them.  Being a hardware oriented person I was concerned the SecureAccess 
software needed to change a write protect bit in the device and decided 
to ask for help.  I should have tried writing to the device as root but 
being very busy I didn't.  It is writable by root and anyone can read it 
so there is no problem.



root@ragnok:/home/fred# chown fred /media/usb0
chown: changing ownership of '/media/usb0': Operation not permitted

Attempts to add write permission are also denied.


As you have not stated how you mounted the drive, I will assume that you 
plugged it in, an icon appeared on the desktop, you interacted with the 
icon, and the drive was mounted at /media/usb0.  If so, AIUI the various 
Debian desktops with automounting use FUSE.  The user account running 
the desktop and automounter will have whatever access controls that are 
supported by the filesystem and/or by FUSE.  But all other user 
accounts, including the root account (!), are denied access to the 
filesystem.  This is a security feature of FUSE.  See mount.fuse(8).


I do not use a DE.  Just openbox and xterm/command line.  Something 
automagically mounts USB devices.  Fuse is installed so maybe that is it.





Is there any way to disable or remove the SecureAccess software?


If you want to use the flash drive to move files between DOS, Windows, 
Linux, macOS, BSD, etc., leave the factory partitioning scheme and 
filesystem intact.  Use the desktop to mount and unmount the filesystem 
on the flash drive.  Use the file manager or a normal, non-root, 
terminal to delete or move aside the "Secure Access" stuff.



If you want to use the drive for some other purpose, such as burning a 
Debian Installer ISO image onto it, do not mount the drive using the 
desktop.  (You may have to disable the desktop automounting feature). 
Instead, open a terminal and use sudo(8) or su(1) to work with the drive.



David


Thanks for the help.
Best regards,
Fred

Re: SanDisk USB stick problem

[Fred]

On 12/8/20 2:21 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote:

Others have suggested reformatting, but maybe a more constructive path
forward is to return the bugger, complaining that it doesn't work.


That seems like cutting off your nose to spite your face. Presumably
the stick was bought for some purpose.


If you never complain those products broken-by-design, the
companies will keep bringing them to the market.


 Stefan

I agree but taking something that doesn't work back to Walmart or other 
large company won't inform the manufacturer about the problem.  Walmart 
is going to throw it in the trash.


Best regards,
Fred

Re: SanDisk USB stick problem

[Fred]

On 12/8/20 8:40 AM, steve wrote:

Hi,

Le 08-12-2020, à 08:29:47 -0700, Fred a écrit :


Hello,

I bought a SanDisk Cruzer Glide USB stick.  The fine print on the 
package says it has SecureAccess software.  It is so secure it 
prevents me from writing to it without running the included Bill Gates 
cancerous, virus infested, scourge of the Earth software.


fred@ragnok:/media/usb0$ ls -l
total 8416
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root   16384 Jul  9  2018 SanDiskSecureAccess
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8600360 Nov  4  2016 
SanDiskSecureAccessV3.01_win.exe

fred@ragnok:/media/usb0$

root@ragnok:/home/fred# chown fred /media/usb0
chown: changing ownership of '/media/usb0': Operation not permitted

Attempts to add write permission are also denied.

Is there any way to disable or remove the SecureAccess software?


Use gparted or fdisk or… to erase the partitions and then create a new
one (ext2 or ext3 if only for linux, or vfat for both Linux and Windows).

I am not familiar with fdisk or gparted and will study these shortly.  I 
am presently drowning in things to do.  It looks like the best thing to 
do is reformat it.  If this doesn't work I will ask for more help.


Best regards,
Fred

Re: SanDisk USB stick problem

[Fred]

On 12/8/20 8:53 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote:

I bought a SanDisk Cruzer Glide USB stick.  The fine print on the package
says it has SecureAccess software.  It is so secure it prevents me from
writing to it without running the included Bill Gates cancerous, virus
infested, scourge of the Earth software.


Yuck!


fred@ragnok:/media/usb0$ ls -l
total 8416
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root   16384 Jul  9  2018 SanDiskSecureAccess
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8600360 Nov  4  2016 SanDiskSecureAccessV3.01_win.exe
fred@ragnok:/media/usb0$


How did you mount it?


root@ragnok:/home/fred# chown fred /media/usb0
chown: changing ownership of '/media/usb0': Operation not permitted
Attempts to add write permission are also denied.


What does `dmesg` say?


Is there any way to disable or remove the SecureAccess software?


Others have suggested reformatting, but maybe a more constructive path
forward is to return the bugger, complaining that it doesn't work.


 Stefan

I have considered returning it but it only cost $6.72 and it isn't worth 
standing in line at Walmart.  If I can't get it to work I will bash it 
with a hammer to see what is inside and buy something else that doesn't 
have SecureAccess on it.

Best regards,
Fred

SanDisk USB stick problem

[Fred]

Hello,

I bought a SanDisk Cruzer Glide USB stick.  The fine print on the 
package says it has SecureAccess software.  It is so secure it prevents 
me from writing to it without running the included Bill Gates cancerous, 
virus infested, scourge of the Earth software.


fred@ragnok:/media/usb0$ ls -l
total 8416
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root   16384 Jul  9  2018 SanDiskSecureAccess
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8600360 Nov  4  2016 SanDiskSecureAccessV3.01_win.exe
fred@ragnok:/media/usb0$

root@ragnok:/home/fred# chown fred /media/usb0
chown: changing ownership of '/media/usb0': Operation not permitted

Attempts to add write permission are also denied.

Is there any way to disable or remove the SecureAccess software?
Best regards,
Fred

Re: How to run AppImage file

[Fred]

On 11/26/20 12:07 PM, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:

Fred  writes:


On 11/26/20 9:04 AM, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:

Fred  writes:


On 11/25/20 12:30 PM, Reco wrote:

Hi.

On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 12:13:03PM -0700, Fred wrote:

fred@ragnok:~$ ./ClipGrab-3.9.2-x86_64.AppImage --help
bash: ./ClipGrab-3.9.2-x86_64.AppImage: cannot execute binary file: Exec format 
error


uname -m

Reco



fred@ragnok:~$ uname -m
i686
fred@ragnok:~$ file ClipGrab-3.9.2-x86_64.AppImage
ClipGrab-3.9.2-x86_64.AppImage: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64,
version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, stripped


Your uname says you are running a 32-bit system (686 is 32 bit).  The
output from the file command says it's a 64 bit executable.  You can run
a 32 bit executable on a 64 bit system, but you can't run a 64 bit
executable on a 32 bit system.



Yes, I see that now.  I thought I was running 64 bit.

fred@ragnok:~$ lscpu
Architecture:i686
CPU op-mode(s):  32-bit, 64-bit
This seems to say the cpu will run 64 bit software.


I suspect (so I'm not sure) that that this means you've got a cpu that
is physically capable of running in 64 bit mode, but you installed a
in i686 operating system so only the 32 bit mode is actually available
to you.  It would be interesting to run uname as
uname -a
and see what it tells you.  In my case I get
Linux snowball 5.8.0-2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.8.10-1 (2020-09-19) x86_64 
GNU/Linux

I'll hazard a guess that the places that say amd64 and x86_64 will say
things related to i686 instead.


You are correct of course.  I thought I was running 64 bit but I was wrong.

fred@ragnok:~$ uname -a
Linux ragnok 4.19.0-12-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 4.19.152-1 (2020-10-18) 
i686 GNU/Linux


I have abandoned trying to run the 64 bit clipgrab binary blob. 
youtube-dl is working now and I plan to install the 64 bit version of 
Devuan when I have time.


Best regards,
Fred

Re: How to run AppImage file

[Fred]

On 11/26/20 9:04 AM, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:

Fred  writes:


On 11/25/20 12:30 PM, Reco wrote:

Hi.

On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 12:13:03PM -0700, Fred wrote:

fred@ragnok:~$ ./ClipGrab-3.9.2-x86_64.AppImage --help
bash: ./ClipGrab-3.9.2-x86_64.AppImage: cannot execute binary file: Exec format 
error


uname -m

Reco



fred@ragnok:~$ uname -m
i686
fred@ragnok:~$ file ClipGrab-3.9.2-x86_64.AppImage
ClipGrab-3.9.2-x86_64.AppImage: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64,
version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, stripped


Your uname says you are running a 32-bit system (686 is 32 bit).  The
output from the file command says it's a 64 bit executable.  You can run
a 32 bit executable on a 64 bit system, but you can't run a 64 bit
executable on a 32 bit system.



Yes, I see that now.  I thought I was running 64 bit.

fred@ragnok:~$ lscpu
Architecture:i686
CPU op-mode(s):  32-bit, 64-bit
This seems to say the cpu will run 64 bit software.

Best regards,
Fred

Re: How to run AppImage file (was: clipgrab as alternative to youtube-dl)

[Fred]

On 11/25/20 2:15 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote:

On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 02:12:03PM -0700, Fred wrote:

fred@ragnok:~$ uname -m
i686
fred@ragnok:~$ file ClipGrab-3.9.2-x86_64.AppImage
ClipGrab-3.9.2-x86_64.AppImage: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, [...]


Well, um.  It's clearly not going to work.

You either need to use a 32-bit version of the application, or you need
to use a 64-bit Debian system.



That's a fine how-dee-do.  I thought I was using 64 bit.  Perhaps I have 
some upgrading to do.


fred@ragnok:~$ lscpu
Architecture:i686
CPU op-mode(s):  32-bit, 64-bit
(the rest cut)

Best regards,
Fred

Re: How to run AppImage file (was: clipgrab as alternative to youtube-dl)

[Fred]

On 11/25/20 12:30 PM, Reco wrote:

Hi.

On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 12:13:03PM -0700, Fred wrote:

fred@ragnok:~$ ./ClipGrab-3.9.2-x86_64.AppImage --help
bash: ./ClipGrab-3.9.2-x86_64.AppImage: cannot execute binary file: Exec format 
error


uname -m

Reco



fred@ragnok:~$ uname -m
i686
fred@ragnok:~$ file ClipGrab-3.9.2-x86_64.AppImage
ClipGrab-3.9.2-x86_64.AppImage: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, 
version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter 
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, stripped


Actually neither /lib64/ nor ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 exist and apt-cache 
search doesn't show anything for ld-linux-x86-64.so.

Maybe the binary wont run on Debian (or Devuan).

Best regards,
Fred

Re: How to run AppImage file (was: clipgrab as alternative to youtube-dl)

[Fred]

On 11/25/20 12:30 PM, Reco wrote:

Hi.

On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 12:13:03PM -0700, Fred wrote:

fred@ragnok:~$ ./ClipGrab-3.9.2-x86_64.AppImage --help
bash: ./ClipGrab-3.9.2-x86_64.AppImage: cannot execute binary file: Exec format 
error


uname -m

Reco



fred@ragnok:~$ uname -m
i686

How to run AppImage file (was: clipgrab as alternative to youtube-dl)

[Fred]

On 11/17/20 11:47 PM, Anssi Saari wrote:

Fred  writes:


There is a binary for Linux available for download as a AppImage
file. What is an AppImage file and what does one do with it.  The
program was probably compiled for Ubuntu.  Is it likely to also run on
Debian?


AppImage files are a kind of package that contain an app and all its
dependencies so yes, it's very likely it'll run on Debian. All you have
to do is make the AppImage file executable and run it. I recently got
into these since I have a problem with the Firefox Debian bundles but
someone maintains a current Firefox build as AppImage.


Hi,
I downloaded the AppImage clipgrab file and made it executable but it 
won't run.


fred@ragnok:~$ ls -l ClipGrab*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 fred fred 95575752 Nov 21 07:10 ClipGrab-3.9.2-x86_64.AppImage

fred@ragnok:~$ ./ClipGrab-3.9.2-x86_64.AppImage --help
bash: ./ClipGrab-3.9.2-x86_64.AppImage: cannot execute binary file: Exec 
format error


Any ideas how to fix?

Best regards,
Fred

Re: Executing 'systemctl poweroff' from script run by cron.

[Fred]

On 11/24/20 5:05 AM, Nicholas Geovanis wrote:


On Tue, Nov 24, 2020, 4:58 AM Reco <mailto:recovery...@enotuniq.net>> wrote:


         Hi.

On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 10:05:26AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de
<mailto:to...@tuxteam.de> wrote:
.
 >
 > Thanks for the gory details. You spoilt my breakfast ;-)

I really feel sorry for that.
But in this regard systemd is akin to many other things in life - it may
look pretty from the outside, but requires a strong stomach to peek
inside :)


It must be said: Kuhscheiß, bullshit.

Voices said that systemd was over-engineered before it was even really 
available. Gigs of e-ink were spilled over that subject both before and 
after its inclusion. Meanwhile it gets harder and harder to remove it 
due to ineffective software compartmentalisation in systemd. It was 
simply a poor choice.
And even Linus Torvalds makes mistakes. He's removed one of the main 
systemd developers from kernel work, with good reason. But we still have 
the software there.


Reco


Devuan is Debian with all traces of systemd removed.

Best regards,
Fred

AppImage files (was: clipgrab as alternative to youtube-dl)

[Fred]

On 11/17/20 11:47 PM, Anssi Saari wrote:

Fred  writes:


There is a binary for Linux available for download as a AppImage
file. What is an AppImage file and what does one do with it.  The
program was probably compiled for Ubuntu.  Is it likely to also run on
Debian?


AppImage files are a kind of package that contain an app and all its
dependencies so yes, it's very likely it'll run on Debian. All you have
to do is make the AppImage file executable and run it. I recently got
into these since I have a problem with the Firefox Debian bundles but
someone maintains a current Firefox build as AppImage.



Hi,
Thanks for your answer.  I was able to get clipgrab to compile but the 
AppImage file is a later version and may be a better choice if it will 
run on Debian.


Best regards,
Fred

Re: clipgrab as alternative to youtube-dl

[Fred]

On 11/17/20 2:41 PM, The Wanderer wrote:

On 2020-11-17 at 16:27, Fred wrote:


On 11/17/20 1:27 PM, The Wanderer wrote:


On 2020-11-17 at 15:21, Fred wrote:


I also looked into compiling the source code which is often as easy as
following some simple instructions.  The compile makes use of qmake
which gives the error:

qmake: could not exec '/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/qt4/bin/qmake': No such
file or directory

/usr/bin/qmake is a link that points to /usr/bin/qtchooser which is
picking the wrong version of qt.  Qt5 is needed and is installed.  I
have set an environment variable QT_SELECT=qt5 but the chooser is not
fooled.  So, if the binary is not usable how do I select qt5?


I think you have the qtchooser syntax wrong.

'man qtchooser' says that the value passed to QT_SELECT is the same as
that which would be passed to 'qtchooser -qt='. Testing that, I get:



$ QT_SELECT=4 qtchooser -print-env
QT_SELECT="4"
QTTOOLDIR="/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/bin"
QTLIBDIR="/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu"


IOW: the value you need to pass in is '5', not 'qt5'.


Hi,
You are quite right.  I don't see from the man page how one is required
to tell qtchooser to set the environment variable instead of doing it
oneself.  In a hurry I didn't notice the option -qt=version.


AFAICT, you don't need to tell qtchooser to do it. As the test still
quoted above shows, if you just set QT_SELECT and don't specify -qt=,
the other settings will be adjusted to match.

The practical necessities depend on exactly what is being invoked and
how, but it seems to me that if the build system is in fact calling
qtchooser, then setting QT_SELECT=5 should make it use Qt5.


Hi,
qtchooser -qt=5 -print-envdoes change to 5

qtchooser -qt=5   does not change the version.  Some command needs 
to follow.


qtchooser -print-env shows "default"

To compile clipgrab:  qmake -qt=5 clipgrab.pro & & make
qmake is a link to qtchooser.

Best regards,
Fred

Re: clipgrab as alternative to youtube-dl

[Fred]

On 11/17/20 1:27 PM, The Wanderer wrote:

On 2020-11-17 at 15:21, Fred wrote:


I also looked into compiling the source code which is often as easy as
following some simple instructions.  The compile makes use of qmake
which gives the error:

qmake: could not exec '/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/qt4/bin/qmake': No such
file or directory

/usr/bin/qmake is a link that points to /usr/bin/qtchooser which is
picking the wrong version of qt.  Qt5 is needed and is installed.  I
have set an environment variable QT_SELECT=qt5 but the chooser is not
fooled.  So, if the binary is not usable how do I select qt5?


I think you have the qtchooser syntax wrong.

'man qtchooser' says that the value passed to QT_SELECT is the same as
that which would be passed to 'qtchooser -qt='. Testing that, I get:


$ qtchooser -qt=4 -print-env
QT_SELECT="4"
QTTOOLDIR="/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/bin"
QTLIBDIR="/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu"
wanderer@apologia:~$ qtchooser -qt=5 -print-env
QT_SELECT="5"
QTTOOLDIR="/usr/lib/qt5/bin"
QTLIBDIR="/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu"
$ QT_SELECT=4 qtchooser -print-env
QT_SELECT="4"
QTTOOLDIR="/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/bin"
QTLIBDIR="/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu"


IOW: the value you need to pass in is '5', not 'qt5'.


Hi,
You are quite right.  I don't see from the man page how one is required 
to tell qtchooser to set the environment variable instead of doing it 
oneself.  In a hurry I didn't notice the option -qt=version.


Thanks for the help.
Best regards,
Fred

Re: clipgrab as alternative to youtube-dl

[Fred]

On 11/17/20 1:24 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote:

On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 01:21:55PM -0700, Fred wrote:

I would like to try clipgrab as youtube-dl sometimes doesn't work.


Feel free to try whatever you like, but if you want youtube-dl to work,
don't use the Debian packages of it.  It changes too fast for a stable
release to handle.  Use upstream instead.



Hi Greg,

I have never used the Debian package for youtube-dl.  For the last 
several months when I tried to update there was a message saying the 
current version could not be found.  This was probably because of a 
recent DMCA takedown.  However, I just tried an update and it was 
successful.  The version date is today.


Maybe I don't need clipgrab after all!

Best regards,
Fred

clipgrab as alternative to youtube-dl

[Fred]

Hello,

I would like to try clipgrab as youtube-dl sometimes doesn't work.  I 
would not have made a donation on the clipgrab web site if I had first 
noticed that no support what so ever is available.


There is a binary for Linux available for download as a AppImage file. 
What is an AppImage file and what does one do with it.  The program was 
probably compiled for Ubuntu.  Is it likely to also run on Debian?


I also looked into compiling the source code which is often as easy as 
following some simple instructions.  The compile makes use of qmake 
which gives the error:


qmake: could not exec '/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/qt4/bin/qmake': No such 
file or directory


/usr/bin/qmake is a link that points to /usr/bin/qtchooser which is 
picking the wrong version of qt.  Qt5 is needed and is installed.  I 
have set an environment variable QT_SELECT=qt5 but the chooser is not 
fooled.  So, if the binary is not usable how do I select qt5?


Best regards,
Fred

Re: Jessie sources list

[Fred]

On 11/15/20 9:26 AM, The Wanderer wrote:

On 2020-11-15 at 11:23, Fred wrote:


Hello,

What is the proper sources.list for Jessie?

I have tried:

http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/

but apt-get is not happy with update.


Per https://www.debian.org/distrib/archive :


If you are using APT the relevant sources.list entries are like:

   deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ hamm contrib main non-free

or

   deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ bo bo-unstable contrib main non-free


Just sub in 'jessie' for 'hamm' and/or 'bo', and I'd expect the result
to work.



Hi,
This worked ok.  I didn't need the /dists/ in my original URL.

Thanks for the help.
Best regards,
Fred

Jessie sources list

[Fred]

Hello,

What is the proper sources.list for Jessie?

I have tried:

http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/

but apt-get is not happy with update.

I am in the process up upgrading but I need to install a Debian package 
first.


Best regards,
Fred Boatwright

Re: Advice on hardware server to use for small a dedicated data center

[Fred]

On 6/27/20 1:04 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
I've had good luck with Supermicro 1U servers - run two or more of them 
and it's easy to turn them into a high-available cluster. 
https://www.rackmountsetc.com/ has been pretty good to me when it comes 
to configuring & assembling Supermicro components (and suggesting 
specific configurations).  You might also look into Ganeti as a cluster 
management package (open source, originated at google for internal 
use).  Same horsepower & quality as a Dell or HP server, at a 
considerably lower price.


I've been running Debian this way, in a data center, for at least a 
decade. (Note:  I'm seriously considering migrating from Debian for our 
next refresh - I really don't like systemd - might go all the way to BSD 
or an OpenSolaris distro.)


One other alternative:   A lot of people seem to swear by Mac Minis as 
servers.  They're already BSD under the hood, and I've run all kinds of 
Linux distros on Macs, under virtualization.  You should be able to run 
Debian directly, though I've never tried it.


Miles Fidelman


On 6/26/2020 1:34 PM, echo test wrote:

Hello,

First of all, please don't ask me why I simply don't want to use aws 
or gcp.


Then, I want to build a small data center for my company for hosting 
a web app and a mail server. It's the first time I'm going to buy 
some hardware for this. I tried looking for it on the web in order to 
compare them but it seems that hardware vendors never want to talk 
about Debian on their websites.


Seriously, I prefer using my money for donating to the Debian 
foundation than having to pay for Ubuntu or Red Hat Enterprise 
because I love Debian and ...


So, I want to know if It's a good idea to try using Debian in an 
enterprise context, with hardwares like Dell EMC PowerEdge or Lenovo 
ThinkCenter which seems to never mention that they support Debian. 
What kind of issues can I encounter with such hardwares except simple 
cases like having to install missing drivers with some already 
available firmwares.


Can you give me some alternative hardwares in case this idea may take 
me to much time to solve ?


Note: I will need some RAID solution hard or soft.

Sorry if my English is bad, it's not my mother language

Thank you.



To Miles Fidelman:
Devuan Linux is Debian with all traces of systemd removed.
Best regards,
Fred

Re: Question for users of Thunderbird on buster

[Fred]

On 6/10/20 1:10 PM, D. R. Evans wrote:

As far as I can tell, no one else using other OSes seems to be having this
problem, so maybe it's a Thunderbird-on-buster issue that needs to be reported
somewhere. Or maybe it's just my system for some obscure reason

So, with current buster, the installed version of Thunderbird is 68.8.0.

I have Thunderbird configured to generate ordinary plain-text e-mails (like
this one).

When composing an e-mail, something (and I assume it's Thunderbird because I
can't guess what else might do this) is attempting to be "intelligent" and is
interpreting sequences of characters instead of just leaving them alone when
they are displayed.

For example:
   if I type the "-" character twice in a row, Thunderbird displays only one,
even though both characters are present in the text
   if I type the "<" character twice in a row, Thunderbird converts the two
"less than" characters into a single "much less than" character when it
displays them, even though the text actually contains the two "<" characters

So on the next line I type the "-" character twice:
  --
and on the next line I type the "<" character twice:
  <<
in both cases they are being displayed incorrectly in the composition window 
here.

Are other people seeing the same behaviour?

   Doc

PS I have tried turning off all add-ons and restarting Thunderbird, but it
made no difference.



Hello,
I am using the same version of Thunderbird on Jessie.  The problems you 
mention don't happen here.  However, the mouse scroll wheel doesn't work 
in the list of messages.  It stopped working several versions ago.

Best regards,
Fred

Re: non function firefox

[Fred]

On 3/17/20 5:40 PM, Felix Miata wrote:

Greg Wooledge composed on 2020-03-17 15:01 (UTC-0400):


On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 02:51:37PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
So, you're using it too, presumably from the same source as Gene's?
Does firefox work for you?

For some limited definition of 'work' it does. My primary browser SeaMonkey 
isn't
loaded with the usability regressions of recent years of Firefox. Palemoon 
retains
a better UI:

http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/palemoon28vsFFesr68-50.jpg


Do you have any insight into why Gene is getting errors containing
/opt/trinity/ paths from Firefox/dconf?

Unless his Coyote machine is running one of his special RTC kernels that the
weight of a web browser wants to overpower, I have virtually no idea. I don't 
use
distro packages of Mozilla products very much. Mostly I use mozilla.org 
binaries,
and choose update timing as I see fit. I don't use or understand Gnome or its
foundations any more than Gimp and Mozilla products force me to, so to me gconf
error messages mean nothing other than something other than the web pages he 
wants
to use is probably corrupt. :(

The voluminous verbiage of his threads makes it hard to pick up missed pieces. 
Has
he been switching among various newer and older Firefox versions? I know at 
times
Firefox has made changes in profile structure that impede successfully switching
back to an older version once a profile has been used with a newer version
incorporating such a change.


In Gene's original post he said FF wasn't working with Walmart's search 
function.  Maybe Walmart's search function was temporarily down when 
Gene tried it.  Has it been tried again?


Best regards,
Fred

Re: printen via nas

[Fred]

Op 09-02-2020 om 08:15 schreef Frans van Berckel:


Terug naar 2012, een mooie check list ...

https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=51=80901=20

Heb je er zowel lpr als cupswrapper opgezet?

Met vriendelijke groet,


Ja dat heb ik.

Inmiddels heb ik de link die jij gestuurd hebt doorgenomen en met 
aanpassing van apt install lib32z1 i.p.v  ia32-libs en sudo mkdir 
/var/spool/lpd werkte het printen nu wel.
Dit is echter vanaf de laptop met die nieuwe installatie. De laptop met 
de oudere maar eveneens met 'Buster' installatie print nog steeds niet.


Overigens waren daar de genoemde /var/spool/lpd en /usr/share/cups/model 
wel aanwezig.
Maar de installatie van bovengenoemde lib heeft er niet toe geleid dat 
het printen ook van deze laptop werkte.


In elk geval is de nas uit te sluiten als boosdoener en kan ik me 
richten op de laptop met de oude installatie.


mvg Fred

Re: printen via nas

[Fred]

Even vanaf mijn mobiel en niet op locatie. De ip adressen zitten in de range 
van 192.168.178.xx. op de enige router die ik gebruik.

De nas is niet voorzien van een white list.

Ik krijg ook geen foutmeldingen. Dat maakt het zoeken juist zo lastig. Cups 
geeft aan dat er wordt geprint en ook dat deze voltooid is.

De drivers zijn alleen beschikbaar voor 32 bit terwijl de apparaten die ik 
gebruik 64 bit zijn. De drivers zijn geïnstalleerd met de --force-all optie. En 
blijkt op de desktop dus succesvol te werken.

Op de laptops wordt de printer ook moeiteloos  door cups gevonden.

Er lijkt dus niets mis te zijn totdat ik op de zolder de print wil ophalen.

Fred

⁣Verzonden door BlueMail ​

Op 8 feb. 2020 13:16, om 13:16, Geert Stappers  schreef:
>On Sat, Feb 08, 2020 at 12:39:09PM +0100, Fred wrote:
>> Beste lijst,
>>
>> Ik wil het volgende hier voorleggen omdat ik inmiddels niet meer weet
>waar
>> te zoeken.
>
>TOP,  daarvoor is deze  mailinglist. (Ja, dat is een compliment)
>
>
>> Ik gebruik een brother printer  type dpc195c die via usb op een
>synology nas
>> DS209+II via USB is aangesloten. Ik kan via een desktop pc (buster)
>met deze
>> printer printen.
>>
>> Via de laptop (buster) vind cups de printer ook maar kan niet
>printen.
>> voor een 2e laptop geldt ook dat hier de printer wel gevonden wordt
>maar ook
>> niet print.
>>
>> Vanaf beide laptops kan ik de nas wel benaderen.
>
>OK, dat betekent namelijk dat je _geen_ WIFI access point hebt
>dat "client isolation" doet.
>
>
>> Omdat ik al een tijd van voornemen was de eerste laptop te voorzien
>van een
>> nieuwe installatie leek mij dit juist een goed moment. Resultaat
>hetzelfde;
>> Printer wel gevonden en geinstalleerd maar geeft ondanks geen
>foutmelding
>> geen afdruk.
>>
>> Hopelijk krijg ik hier wat tips waarmee ik vanavond of vanacht verder
>kan.
>
>Nou, op zijn minst deze ontvangstbevestiging en wat vragen?
>
>* Wat zijn de IP-adressen van de vier devices die nu genoemd zijn?
>  (Dezelfde vraag anders: Zit nog ergens een router tussen?)
>* Die NAS, heeft die de desktop op een "white list" staan?
>* Wat is eigenlijk de foutmelding die je krijgt?
>  (Wat zijn eigenlijk de foutmeldingen die je krijgt?)
>
>
>
>Groeten
>Geert Stappers
>--
>Leven en laten leven

printen via nas

[Fred]

Beste lijst,

Ik wil het volgende hier voorleggen omdat ik inmiddels niet meer weet 
waar te zoeken.


Ik gebruik een brother printer  type dpc195c die via usb op een synology 
nas DS209+II via USB is aangesloten. Ik kan via een desktop pc (buster) 
met deze printer printen.


Via de laptop (buster) vind cups de printer ook maar kan niet printen.
voor een 2e laptop geldt ook dat hier de printer wel gevonden wordt maar 
ook niet print.


Vanaf beide laptops kan ik de nas wel benaderen.

Omdat ik al een tijd van voornemen was de eerste laptop te voorzien van 
een nieuwe installatie leek mij dit juist een goed moment. Resultaat 
hetzelfde; Printer wel gevonden en geinstalleerd maar geeft ondanks geen 
foutmelding geen afdruk.


Hopelijk krijg ik hier wat tips waarmee ik vanavond of vanacht verder kan.


Fred

Re: I support the founder of FreeSoftware

[Fred]

On 9/19/19 8:40 AM, Default User wrote:



On Thu, Sep 19, 2019, 05:20 aprekates > wrote:


I want to express my support to Richard Stallman amidst a smear attack
on his person, on his right to speak, but mostly to what he stands
for .

I stand by Richard Stallman because expressing our thougths is not
a crime but a human right.

I stand by Richard Stallman because i need an uncompromised
authentic voice reminding me the ethic weight of our actions when
we choose how to use, produce share software and not a voice
caressing my consciousness.

I stand by Richard Stallman for the freedom he brought to our
digital world.

Alexandros Prekates

email: apreka...@posteo.net 
social:apreka...@diasp.eu 
chomw...@fosstodon.org 


ps: for the members of the debian community not fully aware of
  attack i'd recommend as entry readings:

https://itsfoss.com/richard-stallman-controversy/

https://medium.com/@selamie/remove-richard-stallman-fec6ec210794

http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128122



I must agree.

We have descended into the new Dark Ages where intellectual discourse, 
freedom of speech, and even freedom of thought will not be tolerated.


The witch hunts are back.

Do we have our lying idiot, bag of crap, fake President to thank for 
making that much worse?

Re: full-upgrade to buster

[fred]

Le 09/07/2019 à 23:01, Jean Bernon a écrit :

- Mail original -


De: "hamster" 
À: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org
Envoyé: Mardi 9 Juillet 2019 22:51:05
Objet: Re: full-upgrade to buster
Le 09/07/2019 à 21:13, fred a écrit :

y a t il ici des persones suceptibles de partager leur expertise
sur
un upgrade depuis debian9 ?

Je me pose la question de l'interet de l'upgrade. C'est long, au
moins
aussi long qu'une installation, ca implique de télécharger a peu près
autant de données que pour une install, ca prend beaucoup de place
dans
la partition racine vu qu'a un moment l'ancienne et la nouvelle
version
sont cote a cote sur le disque et ca peut planter si on a installé
des
logiciels en provenance de dépots tiers comme par exemple libdvdcss2
pour pouvoir lire des DVD.
Du coup je me demande quel interet il y a a faire une upgrade plutot
que
re-installer sans toucher a la partition /home afin de ne pas perdre
sa
configuration.

J'ai fait l'upgrade hier. C'est long en effet (2H dans mon cas), mais ça s'est 
bien passé. Comment fait-on une réinstall sans toucher /home ?



Merci Jean,
tu mets le focus sur le point évident : upgrade sans modifier tout ce 
qui est *caché* dans /home


--
Fred,

Re: full-upgrade to buster

[fred]

le seul intérêt c'est de pas modifier /home, et bien sur tous les 
réglages/configs/etc... non ?


Le 09/07/2019 à 22:51, hamster a écrit :

Le 09/07/2019 à 21:13, fred a écrit :

y a t il ici des persones suceptibles de partager leur expertise sur
un upgrade depuis debian9 ?

Je me pose la question de l'interet de l'upgrade. C'est long, au moins
aussi long qu'une installation, ca implique de télécharger a peu près
autant de données que pour une install, ca prend beaucoup de place dans
la partition racine vu qu'a un moment l'ancienne et la nouvelle version
sont cote a cote sur le disque et ca peut planter si on a installé des
logiciels en provenance de dépots tiers comme par exemple libdvdcss2
pour pouvoir lire des DVD.

Du coup je me demande quel interet il y a a faire une upgrade plutot que
re-installer sans toucher a la partition /home afin de ne pas perdre sa
configuration.




--
Fred,

Re: full-upgrade to buster

[fred]

Oh, t'as raison, pardon pour le bruit mes excuses merci de ne pas répondre !

Le 09/07/2019 à 22:36, Jean-Michel OLTRA a écrit :

 Bonjour,


Le mardi 09 juillet 2019, fred a écrit...



y a t il ici des persones suceptibles de partager leur expertise sur un
upgrade depuis debian9 ?

Hmmm ! On va attendre encore un peu…



--
Fred,

Re: full-upgrade to buster

[fred]

Merci à toi JC, j'y cours !!!

Le 09/07/2019 à 21:53, JC.EtiembleG a écrit :

Le 09/07/2019 à 21:13, fred a écrit :
y a t il ici des persones suceptibles de partager leur expertise sur 
un upgrade depuis debian9 ?


Tu vas sur https://debian-facile.org/forum.php, il y a des mises à 
jour effectuées ;)




--
Fred,

full-upgrade to buster

[fred]

bonjour la liste,
y a t il ici des persones suceptibles de partager leur expertise sur un 
upgrade depuis debian9 ?

merci!

--
fred,

Re: Reading pdf files

[Fred]

On 06/15/2019 08:40 AM, k. jantzen wrote:

On 6/13/19 4:29 PM, k. jantzen wrote:


Hello,

in general I do not have a problem reading a pdf file with either 
xpdf or documentviewer.


But once in a while I get a pdf file that they cannot read and then I 
have to go to Windows to open it.


What is so spectacular about these files that they cannot be read by 
the above mentioned programs? Is there another program that would 
read such a file?


Thanks for your help.


Hello,

thanks a lot for this interesting discussion.

As stated before I used documentviewer and xpdf.

As a consequence of this discussion I tried evince and mupdf.
They did not solve the problem.
I did not try atril and okular because for those I would have to 
install so much extra stuff that I probably will use only in this 
context.

Thus I do not know whether they would solve the problem.

My conclusion: This seems to be the result of generating the pdf file 
under Windows. To read the file I have to use the latest version of 
the Acrobat Reader. Thus I will continue to use Windows in the few 
cases I get such a document.


Thanks a lot.

K.D.J.



Hello,

Possibly you could run Adobe Reader under wine and not actually have to 
run Windows.


Best regards,
Fred

Fwd: [DNG] Linux system can be brought down by sending SIGILL to Systemd

[Fred]

Hello,
I subscribe to the Devuan Linux mailing list.  This posting just arrived 
and it appears quite important to Debian.


 Forwarded Message 
Subject: 	[DNG] Linux system can be brought down by sending SIGILL to 
Systemd

Date:   Fri, 24 May 2019 22:04:34 +0200
From:   Martin Steigerwald 
To: DNG 



Hi!

Today in a Linux training a participant attempted to bring down Debian
workstation with Systemd by sending signals to PID 1 as I invited them
to try to bring down PID 1 while thinking for myself that this would not
be possible from my past experiences about trying to bring down PID 1 –
init – myself.

While sending SIGKILL to Systemd did not have any effect, sending SIGILL
– illegal instruction – to it brought the machine to an halt. I
reproduced it with

while true; do kill -ILL 1 ; echo -n "." ;  sleep 0.5 ; done

on my training workstation (Debian 9.9 with Systemd 232 and 4.9.0-9
Debian Kernel with MDS mitigation).

The mouse pointer froze and the machine did not even respond to ping
anymore! According to participants about 4 to 5 times sending the signal
would be enough to bring down a workstation with Systemd as PID 1.

Despite all the bugs and issues I have seen or read about with Systemd I
was very surprised about that result.

Curiously I attempted the same with the Debian on my laptop that I
switched to SysVInit and elogind. As the elogind stuff mostly works I
think I will switch it to Devuan once I come around to it.

I am able to run

while true; do kill -ILL 1 ; echo -n "." ; done

against SysVinit's "init" process without any issue for minutes (Debian
Sid with sysvinit 2.93-8 and self-compiled 5.1.2 kernel, also with MDS
mitigation). It is even running while I write this mail normally now.

Also the participants found in the manpage kill(2):

NOTES
   The  only  signals  that  can be sent to process ID 1, the init
   process, are those for which init has explicitly installed sig‐
   nal handlers.  This is done to assure the system is not brought
   down accidentally.

So if that is actually true, then it appears that Systemd initiates a
signal handler for SIGILL for whatever reason.

I pondered about writing a bug report to Systemd developers, but
honestly from my past experiences with upstream feedback about bug
reports regarding Systemd I then decided not to bother about it. I am
not willing to take in and deal with any more "this is by design, go
away" or "this works as intended, go away" kind of responses. I am not
interested in Systemd to a larger extent than teaching participants of
my training what they need to know about it, when they have to deal with
it due to distribution choices made at their employer. And yes, I also
have a slide that summarizes critique about it, complete with links, so
they can make up their own opinion. And no, for me it is not black and
white, but my own decision is to go without Systemd.

This is another reason for me to start to provide Devuan VMs in the
Proxmox VE environment I use to provide VMs of various distributions to
the participants of my trainings. So participants can have a look at it
and do exercises with it if they like. I already started to incorporate
information about Devuan in some of my slides.

I share it here not to invite another bashing about Systemd, we really
do not need to go there, but instead can focus on strengthening the
alternatives. But I share it here to provide another reason to use a
Systemd-free distribution like Devuan. I also share it as an example of
the robustness of the SysVInit init process!

Thanks,
--
Martin


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Re: off-topic

[Fred Maranhão]

watch -n 10 wget http://sitequalquer/index.html

vai baixar de 10 em 10 segundos. o wget vai perceber que existe o
index.html e vai criar index.html.1, depois index.html.2 e por aí vai

On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 11:38 AM Vitor Hugo  wrote:
>
> Como fazer o wget baixar um conteúdo em loop ou seja infinitamente?
>

Re: sources.list wheezy

[Fred Maranhão]

você etá usando uma versão velha do debian.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_version_history

esta era a versão estável entre 2013 e 2015. em 2015 a jessie asumiu o
cargo de estável e a wheezy foi para o posto de oldstable (a antiga
estável). assim todos podiam calmamente migrar seus debians de wheezy
para jessie.

em 2017 a stretch assumiu o cargo de estável, e a jessie teve que
ceder o lugar, mas foi ocupar o posto de oldstable. com isto, a wheezy
teve que assumir o cargo de oldoldstable, mas ainda não estava morta.
só velhinha e desatualizada.

quando a buster assumir o cargo de stable, e a stretch for para
oldstable, e a jessie for para oldoldstable, não sei para onde vai a
wheezy...

On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 10:15 PM galileu  wrote:
>
> Caros,
>
> Tenho esse excelente laptop com Debian Wheezy instalado e funcionando muito 
> bem. Meu sources. list é este:
> deb http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free
> deb-src http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free
> deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free
> deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free
>
>
> Mas de um tempo para cá, um apt-get update resulta em coisas do tipo
>
> Ign http://ftp.br.debian.org wheezy Release.gpg
> Ign http://ftp.br.debian.org wheezy Release
> Ign http://ftp.br.debian.org wheezy/main Sources/DiffIndex
> etc., etc.
>
> Err http://ftp.br.debian.org wheezy/main Sources
>   404  Not Found [IP: 200.236.31.3 80]
> Err http://ftp.br.debian.org wheezy/contrib Sources
>   404  Not Found [IP: 200.236.31.3 80]
> etc., etc.
>
> W: Failed to fetch 
> http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/main/source/Sources  404  Not 
> Found [IP: 200.236.31.3 80]
>
> W: Failed to fetch 
> http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/contrib/source/Sources  404  Not 
> Found [IP: 200.236.31.3 80]
> etc., etc.
>
>
> Ou seja, o bom e velho wheeze parece nao estar mais nesses servidores. Alguém 
> sabe o que pode estar havendo?
>
> []'s
> G.Paulo
>

Re: Bug Instação PHP

[Fred Maranhão]

você pode atualizar o seu sistema antes? rodando
apt update; apt upgrade

pode mostrar o conteúdo do sources.list?
assim:
# more /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
::
/etc/apt/sources.list
::
deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates main contrib
non-
free
deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian stretch main contrib non-free
more: stat of /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* failed: No such file or directory

parece que a raiz da maioria dos seus problemas é o pacote php7.0-common

pode dar um reinstall nele e colar aqui o que aconteceu?
apt install --reinstall php7.0-common


On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 8:51 AM Lucas Cavalcante 
wrote:

> Ao tentar instalar o PHP no meu computador, com sistema Debian 9 aparece a
> seguinte mensagem de erro:
>
> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.0-common (--configure):
>  sub-processo script post-installation instalado retornou estado de saída
> de erro 10
> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php7.0-mysql:
>  php7.0-mysql depende de php7.0-common (= 7.0.33-0+deb9u3); porém:
>   Pacote php7.0-common não está configurado ainda.
>
> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.0-mysql (--configure):
>  problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php7.0-readline:
>  php7.0-readline depende de php7.0-common (= 7.0.33-0+deb9u3); porém:
>   Pacote php7.0-common não está configurado ainda.
>
> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.0-readline (--configure):
>  problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php7.0-opcache:
>  php7.0-opcache depende de php7.0-common (= 7.0.33-0+deb9u3); porém:
>   Pacote php7.0-common não está configurado ainda.
>
> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.0-opcache (--configure):
>  problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php7.0-mbstring:
>  php7.0-mbstring depende de php7.0-common (= 7.0.33-0+deb9u3); porém:
>   Pacote php7.0-common não está configurado ainda.
>
> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.0-mbstring (--configure):
>  problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de
> libapache2-mod-php7.0:
>  libapache2-mod-php7.0 depende de php7.0-common (= 7.0.33-0+deb9u3); porém:
>   Pacote php7.0-common não está configurado ainda.
>  libapache2-mod-php7.0 depende de php7.0-opcache; porém:
>   Pacote php7.0-opcache não está configurado ainda.
>
> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote libapache2-mod-php7.0 (--configure):
>  problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php7.0-mcrypt:
>  php7.0-mcrypt depende de php7.0-common (= 7.0.33-0+deb9u3); porém:
>   Pacote php7.0-common não está configurado ainda.
>
> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.0-mcrypt (--configure):
>  problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php7.0-curl:
>  php7.0-curl depende de php7.0-common (= 7.0.33-0+deb9u3); porém:
>   Pacote php7.0-common não está configurado ainda.
>
> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.0-curl (--configure):
>  problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php7.0-cli:
>  php7.0-cli depende de php7.0-common (= 7.0.33-0+deb9u3); porém:
>   Pacote php7.0-common não está configurado ainda.
>  php7.0-cli depende de php7.0-opcache; porém:
>   Pacote php7.0-opcache não está configurado ainda.
>  php7.0-cli depende de php7.0-readline; porém:
>   Pacote php7.0-readline não está configurado ainda.
>
> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.0-cli (--configure):
>  problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php7.0-sqlite3:
>  php7.0-sqlite3 depende de php7.0-common (= 7.0.33-0+deb9u3); porém:
>   Pacote php7.0-common não está configurado ainda.
>
> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.0-sqlite3 (--configure):
>  problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php-msgpack:
>  php-msgpack depende de phpapi-20151012; porém:
>   Pacote phpapi-20151012 não está instalado.
>   Pacote php7.0-cli, o qual fornece phpapi-20151012 ainda não está
> configurado.
>   Pacote libapache2-mod-php7.0, o qual fornece phpapi-20151012 ainda não
> está configurado.
>
> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php-msgpack (--configure):
>  problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php7.0-json:
>  php7.0-json depende de php7.0-common (= 7.0.33-0+deb9u3); porém:
>   Pacote php7.0-common não está configurado ainda.
>
> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.0-json (--configure):
>  problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a 

Re: youtube video downloader for chrome

[Fred]

On 03/22/2019 05:05 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote:

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 02:24:08PM -0700, Fred wrote:

One option that might have helped with a problem that was posted in about
the last week is the --restrict-filenames option which may prevent the need
to quote the URL.

No, that won't prevent the need to quote a URL containing & characters.
Those are special to the shell and will cause the command to be split
at that point, becoming two separate commands, one of which will be
executed in the background.

wooledg:~$ echo a
[1] 9208
a
bash: b: command not found
[1]+  Doneecho a
wooledg:~$



Hi,

I realized that after sending the post.  The --restrict-filenames option 
is for the destination file.


Best regards,
Fred

Re: youtube video downloader for chrome

[Fred]

On 03/21/2019 11:57 AM, David Wright wrote:

On Thu 21 Mar 2019 at 10:17:11 (-0700), Fred wrote:

On 03/21/2019 08:41 AM, David Wright wrote:

On Thu 21 Mar 2019 at 15:38:41 (+0100), Pierre Frenkiel wrote:

On Wed, 20 Mar 2019, Celejar wrote:

On Wed, 20 Mar 2019 10:34:42 +0100 (CET) Pierre Frenkiel 
 wrote:

On Tue, 19 Mar 2019, riveravaldez wrote:


Maybe worth mentioning: youtube-dl, exceptionally useful and simple CLI tool.

 useful and simple... but it works only for urls with alphanumeric 
characters
 I tried with an url containing ? and &, and I got nothing
 I tried also by escaping ? and & with \, and it was not better.
 I'll send you an example later, if you are not convinced...

You can also try putting the url(s) in a file, and feeding the file to
youtube-dl via its -a option.

Celejar


At last, I fixed everything just by loadind the last version of youtube-dl 
from the
yt-dl site
wget https://yt-dl.org/latest/youtube-dl -O /usr/local/bin/youtube-dl

after that,  I can do either
  youtube-dl --no-playlist  
'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQd1IOyhKS4=RDEMlHFFKeq-aYlBhg-LtJ-SHw_radio=1'
  or
 youtube-dl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQd1IOyhKS4 both give
exactly the same result.

My question is why the Debian version so obsolte ans uneliable?

The latest version on the website is three days old. The version I
installed from backports on Jan 28 was 11 days old.

You have to understand that sites like youtube and the BBC can
obsolete youtube-dl and get_iplayer overnight, and they do.
Then some clever people come up with a fix and release a new
version, and I heave a big sigh of relief and thanks. (Most
BBC programmes expire after four weeks, and I'm usually two or
three weeks behind, so a quick fix is vital.)

Debian mainstream doesn't work to that timetable, so you should
check out the backports, where those sorts of package appear.
Fortunately, get_iplayer is a single Perl script so I just
download it from its site and put it in ~/bin, as you can see
from my examples.


Hi,
I think you would be better off with:

youtube-dl --update

a) Why?

b) How?

$ youtube-dl --update
Usage: youtube-dl [OPTIONS] URL [URL...]

youtube-dl: error: youtube-dl's self-update mechanism is disabled on Debian.
Please update youtube-dl using apt(8).
See https://packages.debian.org/sid/youtube-dl for the latest packaged version.

$


also:

  youtube-dl --help

will show all the options.

… and, of course, --update is missing.

But which of these options did you mean to draw my attention to?

Cheers,
David.



HI,

Well, it would appear that I did not use the downlevel version from the 
Debian repository.  If you install from the youtube-dl website and then 
use the --update command you can be sure of having the latest version.


If one uses the --help command the update option will be shown.  I 
didn't know that was missing in the Debian version.


One option that might have helped with a problem that was posted in 
about the last week is the --restrict-filenames option which may prevent 
the need to quote the URL.


Best regards,
Fred

Re: youtube video downloader for chrome

[Fred]

On 03/21/2019 08:41 AM, David Wright wrote:

On Thu 21 Mar 2019 at 15:38:41 (+0100), Pierre Frenkiel wrote:

On Wed, 20 Mar 2019, Celejar wrote:

On Wed, 20 Mar 2019 10:34:42 +0100 (CET) Pierre Frenkiel 
 wrote:

On Tue, 19 Mar 2019, riveravaldez wrote:


Maybe worth mentioning: youtube-dl, exceptionally useful and simple CLI tool.

useful and simple... but it works only for urls with alphanumeric characters
I tried with an url containing ? and &, and I got nothing
I tried also by escaping ? and & with \, and it was not better.
I'll send you an example later, if you are not convinced...

You can also try putting the url(s) in a file, and feeding the file to
youtube-dl via its -a option.

Celejar


   At last, I fixed everything just by loadind the last version of youtube-dl 
from the
   yt-dl site
   wget https://yt-dl.org/latest/youtube-dl -O /usr/local/bin/youtube-dl

after that,  I can do either
 youtube-dl --no-playlist  
'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQd1IOyhKS4=RDEMlHFFKeq-aYlBhg-LtJ-SHw_radio=1'
 or
youtube-dl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQd1IOyhKS4 both give
exactly the same result.

My question is why the Debian version so obsolte ans uneliable?

The latest version on the website is three days old. The version I
installed from backports on Jan 28 was 11 days old.

You have to understand that sites like youtube and the BBC can
obsolete youtube-dl and get_iplayer overnight, and they do.
Then some clever people come up with a fix and release a new
version, and I heave a big sigh of relief and thanks. (Most
BBC programmes expire after four weeks, and I'm usually two or
three weeks behind, so a quick fix is vital.)

Debian mainstream doesn't work to that timetable, so you should
check out the backports, where those sorts of package appear.
Fortunately, get_iplayer is a single Perl script so I just
download it from its site and put it in ~/bin, as you can see
from my examples.

Cheers,
David.



Hi,
I think you would be better off with:

youtube-dl --update

also:

 youtube-dl --help

will show all the options.

Best regards,
Fred

Re: vender cds debian,duvidas;

[Fred Maranhão]

você fez uma pesquisa de mercado para saber se existe público
para o seu produto?

nos últimos anos eu tenho baixado e queimado minhas próprias imagens
de CD. e mais recentemente, com o advento do boot via pen-drive, tem sido
comum baixar a imagem e preparar um pen-drive de boot.

e no ambiente corporativo, tem aumentado a quantidade de máquinas
virtuais, onde ainda temos que baixar a imagem do CD, mas apresentamos
ela virtualmente para a máquina virtual a ser instalada, sem necessidade
de criar uma mídia física (CD, pendrive...)

sugiro que você venda os CDs sob demanda. só queime uma mídia
quando fechar uma venda.


On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 9:19 AM Daniel Roma
 wrote:
>
> me desculpem não sabia... não quis ofender ninguem muito menos que membros da 
> lista não me respondam.
> to começando a usar listas de discussão e muitas coisas não sei, preciso 
> aprender.
> obrigado pela ajuda de todos
>
> Em qui, 31 de jan de 2019 às 18:13, ndre  escreveu:
>>
>> Olá,
>> Thu 31 Jan 2019 às 12:38:18 (1548949098), vendedor.softwareli...@gmail.com 
>> enviou:
>> > ola pessoal da lista de discussão geral do Debian, tudo bem?
>>
>> Tudo bem e com você?
>>
>> > Meu nome é Daniel, muito prazer,sou novo na lista, mas uso ubuntu 16 a
>> > algum tempo.
>>
>> Vai ter gente se recusando a te ajudar porque você decidiu falar de
>> ubuntu em uma lista debian.
>>
>> > Quero fazer uma pergunta,não sei se é o lugar certo mas não encontrei um
>> > email pra falar com pessoal do Debian e perguntar.
>> > Estou desempregado a anos,e quero começar a vender cds do Debian como
>> > vendedor oficial, mas quando fui fazer o cadastro,deu esse erro.:
>> >
>> > The following information was collected:
>> > Submission-Type: new
>> > Vendor: Daniel Roma
>> > URL: https://www.facebook.com/daniel.roma.75098
>> > URL-Debian: www.mercadolivre.com.br
>> > The specified web site (www.mercadolivre.com.br) cannot be accessed.
>> > The error message returned was: 400 URL must be absolute
>> > If you don't understand this error message, please contact us.
>> > Entry not submitted!
>>
>> Tentou usar https://www.mercadolivre.com.br?
>> 
>>
>> Pesquise na web sobre "URL absoluta e relativa" e sobre "http status
>> messages".
>>
>> Abraços e boa sorte!

Re: Touchpad e clique do mouse

[Fred Maranhão]

instala o pacote xserver-xorg-input-synaptics

On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 11:49 AM Leonardo S. S. da Rocha
 wrote:
>
> Olá pessoal, boa tarde!
>
> estou com um pequeno problema. Acabo de trocar a interface do meu
> Debian (Estou com o testing rodando). Acontece que antes (quando usava
> gnome) o clique do mouse podia ser habilitado para ser dado através do
> clique do touchpad do notebook. Agora não consigo isso. Até encontrei
> umas orientações para habilitar isso nas configurações em Mouse e
> Touchpad mas não parece a opção no XFCE. Alguém saberia dar alguma
> dica quanto a isso?
>
> Obrigado.
>
> Leonardo Rocha.
>

Re: openvpn

[Fred]

Op 05-01-19 om 22:36 schreef Paul van der Vlis:

Op 05-01-19 om 20:36 schreef Fred:> Op 03-01-19 om 20:42 schreef Paul
van der Vlis:

Je zou het ook zonder de network-manager plugin kunnen doen.
Gewoon het configfile in /etc/openvpn/  zetten en renamen (.ovpn moet
.conf worden). Daarna reboot ik normaal, de VPN start dan automatisch
als er een netwerkverbinding is.

Je kunt hem echter ook uitzetten in /etc/default/openvpn en hem met de
hand starten ("openvpn --config /path/configfile".

Dit werkt inderdaad.
In tegenstelling tot de optie met de netwerkmanager moet/ga ik nu steeds
door de vpn server heen.
Wellicht is dat geen probleem, maar is hier nog een alternatief voor..?

Default gaat alleen dataverkeer naar je eigen apparatuur door de VPN en
ander internetverkeer niet. Waarom denk je dat al het verkeer door de
VPN gaat?
Vermoedelijk door een gebrek aan kennis en door de veronderstelling dat 
je juist in het netwerkbeheer van Gnome de VPN uit kan zetten wanneer je 
VPN niet nodig acht. Andersom ging ik er dus vanuit dat als je VPN niet 
uit zet dat alle verkeer dus door de VPN gaat. Met alle verkeer bedoel 
ik ook een bericht zoals deze.

Maar zoals ik al begon; ... een gebrek aan kennis.

Er zijn wel mogelijkheden dit te veranderen met het commando
"redirect-gateway" maar dat zag ik niet in je configfile.

Mijn ervaring met NetworkManagers OpenVPN-plugin is, dat het daar anders
is, dat implementeerd OpenVPN niet correct naar mijn mening! (getest met
de versie uit Debian Stable). Het default is daar dat al het verkeer via
de VPN gaat, tenzij je dit wijzigt.

Geef eens "ip r" terwijl je VPN open is, en kijk naar de regel met
"default". Dat is je default gateway.

Dat is dus het adres van mijn router..


"ip -6 r" is interessant voor IPv6, als er IPv6 is gaat dat voor. Ik heb
wel gehad dat ipv6 een andere gateway had dan IPv4.

Je zult weinig last hebben van de VPN als alleen verkeer naar jouw
apparatuur er door gaat. Maar je kunt de VPN ook default niet aanzetten
en alleen als nodig aan, zoals boven beschreven.


Is er overigens ook nog een mogelijkheid om te testen of de vpn
betrouwbaar werkt..?

Mijn ervaring is dat het betrouwbaar werkt, maar dat zul je zelf wel
merken. Misschien begrijp ik je vraag niet helemaal goed.
Eigenlijk doelde ik op bijv. een site (whatismyipaddress) die het 
gebruikte ip-adres laat zien.

Deze geeft trouwens wel het ipv6 adres terug...

Er zullen echter plekken zijn waar het niet werkt, omdat men daar de
poort waarop OpenVPN werkt blokkeert en bijvoorbeeld alleen poort 80 en
443 TCP doorlaat. Sommige gastnetwerken doen dat.
Het valt mij al op dat er vanaf de laptop met de kabel al veel sites 
zijn die niet weer gegeven worden.

Maar dit kan natuurlijk toeval zijn.


Verder lijkt me dat je op je Pi de poorten dichtzet, behalve die van de
VPN. Je kunt er dus niet opkomen als de VPN niet zou werken.
Overweeg dat niet alleen tegenover internet te doen, maar ook lokaal.

Ok, iptables oid..? Weer iets uit te zoeken ;-)

Gr Fred

Re: openvpn

[Fred]

Op 03-01-19 om 20:42 schreef Paul van der Vlis:


Op 03-01-19 om 19:45 schreef Fred:


Op 03-01-19 om 19:01 schreef Paul van der Vlis:

Op 03-01-19 om 17:45 schreef Fred:

Op 03-01-19 om 17:39 schreef Paul van der Vlis:

Op 03-01-19 om 15:05 schreef Fred:

Op 02-01-19 om 20:53 schreef Paul van der Vlis:

Hoi,

Op 02-01-19 om 20:00 schreef Fred:

Beste,

Ik heb op een RBP een VPN servertje draaien waarmee ik via de ap van
mijn mobiel een verbinding kan krijgen.
Vanaf mijn laptop lukt dit echter niet.

Ik heb wel het .ovpn configuratie bestand in de netwerk beheerder
van
Gnome geïmporteerd echter met uitzondering van het 
gedeelte.
Deze lijkt namelijk niet geaccepteerd te worden als in n VPN wil
toevoegen.

Bedoel je wellicht het  gedeelte?
Als je dat op de server hebt, moet je het ook op de client hebben.
Je kunt het dus ook weghalen aan zowel de server als de client kant.

Onderstaande heb ik uit het .ovpn configuratie bestand gekopieerd;


#
#
# 2048 bit OpenVPN static key
#
#-BEGIN OpenVPN Static key V1-

Deze sectie wordt niet aanvaart door de netwerkmanager, dat dat ik de
regels van n comment out # heb voorzien wel.
Het gaat volgens mij dus wel om  i,p,v  (?)

Maar in jou methode om een .opvn bestand te genereren zie ik juist die
tag niet terug.
Wellicht dat dat juist het probleem is. De log verwijst in elk
geval wel
naar een tls issue.

Ik zie dus zoiets en dat werkt:


#
# 2048 bit OpenVPN static key
#
-BEGIN OpenVPN Static key V1-

(...)

-END OpenVPN Static key V1-



Probeer het misschien eens aan te passen.

Dat heb ik juist geprobeerd maar levert ook niet het gewenste
resultaat op;
De log laat dan dit zien;
Jan  3 15:37:00 raspberrypi ovpn-server[338]: tls-crypt unwrap error:
packet authentication failed
Jan  3 15:37:00 raspberrypi ovpn-server[338]: TLS Error: tls-crypt
unwrapping failed from [AF_INET]

Ik heb nog wat verder gekeken, tls-auth is wat anders dan tls-crypt. Als
ik me niet vergis is tls-crypt nieuwer/beter, maar het zou best eens
kunnen dat networkmanager in Debian het nog niet ondersteund.
Hmm, ik zie dat er ook een backports-versie van is.

Uit de manual: "In contrast to --tls-auth, --tls-crypt does *not*
require the user to set --key-direction."

Met tls-crypt heb ik nog geen ervaring. Hieronder ga ik in op tls-auth.

Networkmanager importeert alles nu netjes?

Ja, als ik  van   maak dan wordt het ovpn config
bestand wel geïmporteerd, maar wel geeft dus toch in de log van de
server een foutmelding zoals hierboven. Het bestand word ook
geïmporteerd als ik de  regels out comment.

Wat staat er op de tls-auth regel in je client-configfile?
Bij mij staat er dit:
tls-auth ta.key 1

Die komt in mijn client-configfile niet voor.

-
client
dev tun
proto udp
remote xx.xx.xx.xx 1194
resolv-retry infinite
nobind
persist-key
persist-tun
remote-cert-tls server
tls-version-min 1.2
verify-x509-name server_KLsSwJCOaYqwbKIp name
cipher AES-256-CBC
auth SHA256
auth-nocache
verb 3
---
En hierna de certificaten en keys...

Ik heb op de client dit, daarna de certificaten en keys:
---
client
dev tun
proto udp
remote xx.xx.xx.xx 1194
resolv-retry infinite
nobind
persist-key
persist-tun
ca ca.crt
cert client.crt
key client.key
remote-cert-tls server
tls-auth ta.key 1
cipher AES-256-CBC
verb 3
-

Volgens mij verschilt de cipher en heb jij "auth" waar ik "tls-auth"
heb, en dan de "direction".


Dit staat er bij mij in het server configfile:
tls-auth /etc/openvpn/keys/ta.key 0
Let op die laatste 0 en 1, dat is de direction.

Bij mij;
tls-crypt /etc/openvpn/easy-rsa/pki/ta.key

Dus zonder toevoeging van 0 of 1

Bovenstaande regel lijkt me geschikt voor tls-crypt en niet voor tls-auth.

Je zult moeten kiezen tussen tls-auth en tls-crypt.
Met dat laatste heb ik nog geen ervaring.
En of de network-manager openvpn plugin daarmee werkt weet ik niet.

Je zou het ook eerst zonder tls-crypt of tls-auth aan de praat kunnen
brengen om te zien of het dan werkt.

Je zou het ook zonder de network-manager plugin kunnen doen.
Gewoon het configfile in /etc/openvpn/  zetten en renamen (.ovpn moet
.conf worden). Daarna reboot ik normaal, de VPN start dan automatisch
als er een netwerkverbinding is.

Je kunt hem echter ook uitzetten in /etc/default/openvpn en hem met de
hand starten ("openvpn --config /path/configfile".

Dit werkt inderdaad.
In tegenstelling tot de optie met de netwerkmanager moet/ga ik nu steeds 
door de vpn server heen.

Wellicht is dat geen probleem, maar is hier nog een alternatief voor..?
Is er overigens ook nog een mogelijkheid om te testen of de vpn 
betrouwbaar werkt..?


Gr Fred

Re: Syntaxe de find

[fred]

Bonjour,

Je pense qu'il manque le caractère jocker *

find . -name "*.jpeg"

Là tu recherches ce qui correspond précisément à .jpeg et non tout ce
qui se termine par .jpeg ...

Fred

Le 04/01/2019 à 22:33, Frederic Zulian a écrit :
> Bonjour,
> 
> J'ai récupéré le contenu d'un DD avec Photorec.
> Cela a bien fonctionné mais je me retrouve avec 542 répertoires et quelques
> milliers de fichiers.
> 
> Comment puis-je extraire à travers l'ensemble des répertoires  les fichiers
> avec une extension spécifiques (ex jpeg) ?
> 
> J'ai tenté : find . -name ".jpeg" -print mais il ne me retourne aucun
> résultat.
> 
> Une idée ?
> 
> --
> Frédéric ZULIAN
> 

Re: openvpn

[Fred]

Op 03-01-19 om 19:01 schreef Paul van der Vlis:

Op 03-01-19 om 17:45 schreef Fred:


Op 03-01-19 om 17:39 schreef Paul van der Vlis:

Op 03-01-19 om 15:05 schreef Fred:

Op 02-01-19 om 20:53 schreef Paul van der Vlis:

Hoi,

Op 02-01-19 om 20:00 schreef Fred:

Beste,

Ik heb op een RBP een VPN servertje draaien waarmee ik via de ap van
mijn mobiel een verbinding kan krijgen.
Vanaf mijn laptop lukt dit echter niet.

Ik heb wel het .ovpn configuratie bestand in de netwerk beheerder van
Gnome geïmporteerd echter met uitzondering van het 
gedeelte.
Deze lijkt namelijk niet geaccepteerd te worden als in n VPN wil
toevoegen.

Bedoel je wellicht het  gedeelte?
Als je dat op de server hebt, moet je het ook op de client hebben.
Je kunt het dus ook weghalen aan zowel de server als de client kant.

Onderstaande heb ik uit het .ovpn configuratie bestand gekopieerd;


#
#
# 2048 bit OpenVPN static key
#
#-BEGIN OpenVPN Static key V1-

Deze sectie wordt niet aanvaart door de netwerkmanager, dat dat ik de
regels van n comment out # heb voorzien wel.
Het gaat volgens mij dus wel om  i,p,v  (?)

Maar in jou methode om een .opvn bestand te genereren zie ik juist die
tag niet terug.
Wellicht dat dat juist het probleem is. De log verwijst in elk geval wel
naar een tls issue.

Ik zie dus zoiets en dat werkt:


#
# 2048 bit OpenVPN static key
#
-BEGIN OpenVPN Static key V1-

(...)

-END OpenVPN Static key V1-



Probeer het misschien eens aan te passen.

Dat heb ik juist geprobeerd maar levert ook niet het gewenste resultaat op;
De log laat dan dit zien;
Jan  3 15:37:00 raspberrypi ovpn-server[338]: tls-crypt unwrap error:
packet authentication failed
Jan  3 15:37:00 raspberrypi ovpn-server[338]: TLS Error: tls-crypt
unwrapping failed from [AF_INET]

Ik heb nog wat verder gekeken, tls-auth is wat anders dan tls-crypt. Als
ik me niet vergis is tls-crypt nieuwer/beter, maar het zou best eens
kunnen dat networkmanager in Debian het nog niet ondersteund.
Hmm, ik zie dat er ook een backports-versie van is.

Uit de manual: "In contrast to --tls-auth, --tls-crypt does *not*
require the user to set --key-direction."

Met tls-crypt heb ik nog geen ervaring. Hieronder ga ik in op tls-auth.

Networkmanager importeert alles nu netjes?
Ja, als ik  van   maak dan wordt het ovpn config 
bestand wel geïmporteerd, maar wel geeft dus toch in de log van de 
server een foutmelding zoals hierboven. Het bestand word ook 
geïmporteerd als ik de  regels out comment.


Wat staat er op de tls-auth regel in je client-configfile?
Bij mij staat er dit:
tls-auth ta.key 1

Die komt in mijn client-configfile niet voor.

-
client
dev tun
proto udp
remote xx.xx.xx.xx 1194
resolv-retry infinite
nobind
persist-key
persist-tun
remote-cert-tls server
tls-version-min 1.2
verify-x509-name server_KLsSwJCOaYqwbKIp name
cipher AES-256-CBC
auth SHA256
auth-nocache
verb 3
---
En hierna de certificaten en keys...


Dit staat er bij mij in het server configfile:
tls-auth /etc/openvpn/keys/ta.key 0
Let op die laatste 0 en 1, dat is de direction.

Bij mij;
tls-crypt /etc/openvpn/easy-rsa/pki/ta.key

Dus zonder toevoeging van 0 of 1

gr Fred

Re: openvpn

[Fred]

Op 03-01-19 om 17:39 schreef Paul van der Vlis:

Op 03-01-19 om 15:05 schreef Fred:


Op 02-01-19 om 20:53 schreef Paul van der Vlis:

Hoi,

Op 02-01-19 om 20:00 schreef Fred:

Beste,

Ik heb op een RBP een VPN servertje draaien waarmee ik via de ap van
mijn mobiel een verbinding kan krijgen.
Vanaf mijn laptop lukt dit echter niet.

Ik heb wel het .ovpn configuratie bestand in de netwerk beheerder van
Gnome geïmporteerd echter met uitzondering van het  gedeelte.
Deze lijkt namelijk niet geaccepteerd te worden als in n VPN wil
toevoegen.

Bedoel je wellicht het  gedeelte?
Als je dat op de server hebt, moet je het ook op de client hebben.
Je kunt het dus ook weghalen aan zowel de server als de client kant.

Onderstaande heb ik uit het .ovpn configuratie bestand gekopieerd;


#
#
# 2048 bit OpenVPN static key
#
#-BEGIN OpenVPN Static key V1-

Deze sectie wordt niet aanvaart door de netwerkmanager, dat dat ik de
regels van n comment out # heb voorzien wel.
Het gaat volgens mij dus wel om  i,p,v  (?)

Maar in jou methode om een .opvn bestand te genereren zie ik juist die
tag niet terug.
Wellicht dat dat juist het probleem is. De log verwijst in elk geval wel
naar een tls issue.

Ik zie dus zoiets en dat werkt:


#
# 2048 bit OpenVPN static key
#
-BEGIN OpenVPN Static key V1-

(...)

-END OpenVPN Static key V1-



Probeer het misschien eens aan te passen.

Dat heb ik juist geprobeerd maar levert ook niet het gewenste resultaat op;
De log laat dan dit zien;

Jan  3 15:37:00 raspberrypi ovpn-server[338]: tls-crypt unwrap error: 
packet authentication failed
Jan  3 15:37:00 raspberrypi ovpn-server[338]: TLS Error: tls-crypt 
unwrapping failed from [AF_INET]


gr Fred

Re: openvpn

[Fred]

Op 02-01-19 om 20:53 schreef Paul van der Vlis:

Hoi,

Op 02-01-19 om 20:00 schreef Fred:

Beste,

Ik heb op een RBP een VPN servertje draaien waarmee ik via de ap van
mijn mobiel een verbinding kan krijgen.
Vanaf mijn laptop lukt dit echter niet.

Ik heb wel het .ovpn configuratie bestand in de netwerk beheerder van
Gnome geïmporteerd echter met uitzondering van het  gedeelte.
Deze lijkt namelijk niet geaccepteerd te worden als in n VPN wil toevoegen.

Bedoel je wellicht het  gedeelte?
Als je dat op de server hebt, moet je het ook op de client hebben.
Je kunt het dus ook weghalen aan zowel de server als de client kant.

Onderstaande heb ik uit het .ovpn configuratie bestand gekopieerd;


#
#
# 2048 bit OpenVPN static key
#
#-BEGIN OpenVPN Static key V1-
Deze sectie wordt niet aanvaart door de netwerkmanager, dat dat ik de 
regels van n comment out # heb voorzien wel.

Het gaat volgens mij dus wel om  i,p,v  (?)

Maar in jou methode om een .opvn bestand te genereren zie ik juist die 
tag niet terug.
Wellicht dat dat juist het probleem is. De log verwijst in elk geval wel 
naar een tls issue.


Gr Fred

Re: openvpn

[Fred]

Jan  2 20:25:07 raspberrypi ovpn-server[338]: tls-crypt unwrap error: 
packet too short
Jan  2 20:25:07 raspberrypi ovpn-server[338]: TLS Error: tls-crypt 
unwrapping failed from [AF_INET]


Fred

Op 02-01-19 om 20:58 schreef Geert Stappers:

On Wed, Jan 02, 2019 at 08:00:14PM +0100, Fred wrote:

Beste,

Ik heb op een RBP een VPN servertje draaien waarmee ik via de ap van mijn
mobiel een verbinding kan krijgen.
Vanaf mijn laptop lukt dit echter niet.

Ik heb wel het .ovpn configuratie bestand in de netwerk beheerder van Gnome
geïmporteerd echter met uitzondering van het  gedeelte.
Deze lijkt namelijk niet geaccepteerd te worden als in n VPN wil toevoegen.

het .ovpn bestand word zo door het netwerkbeheer wel geaccepteerd maar er
word geen verbinding gemaakt.
Ik heb geen idee waar ik nu verder kan/moet zoeken om te kunnen achterhalen
wat er mis gaat.

Wat komt er in logging van de server in kwestie?


Groeten
Geert Stappers

openvpn

[Fred]

Beste,

Ik heb op een RBP een VPN servertje draaien waarmee ik via de ap van 
mijn mobiel een verbinding kan krijgen.

Vanaf mijn laptop lukt dit echter niet.

Ik heb wel het .ovpn configuratie bestand in de netwerk beheerder van 
Gnome geïmporteerd echter met uitzondering van het  gedeelte.

Deze lijkt namelijk niet geaccepteerd te worden als in n VPN wil toevoegen.

het .ovpn bestand word zo door het netwerkbeheer wel geaccepteerd maar 
er word geen verbinding gemaakt.
Ik heb geen idee waar ik nu verder kan/moet zoeken om te kunnen 
achterhalen wat er mis gaat.


iemand..?

Fred

Re: [HS] enquête nationale sur la réparabilité des objets

[fred]

Bonjour,

Une partie de la richesse des GAFAM et des autres en terme de données
vient aussi de leur possibilité de croiser ces données provenant de
sources différentes.

Dans l'absolu, même si l'on est utilisateur de quelques services de
Google (puisque c'est l'exemple dont on parle ici), on gagnera toujours
à limiter autant que possible la quantité de données que l'on fourni à
cet ogre. Cela doit au moins permettre de limiter le nombre de
croisements possibles et donc, le nombre et la portée des usages liés à
la réutilisation de ces données.

Fred

Le 19/12/2018 à 21:57, Belaïd a écrit :
> Question pour jc:
> 
> Bonjour,
> 
> Quel type de système as tu sur ton téléphone/smartphone  sans être
> indiscret ? (je pense que tu anticipe déjà ma prochaine question )
> 
> 
> Le mer. 19 déc. 2018 15:59, JC.EtiembleG  a écrit :
> 
>> Le 19/12/2018 à 13:19, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit :
>>
>>>
>> https://www.halteobsolescence.org/indice-de-reparabilite-participez-a-lenquete-nationale/
>>>
>>> merci de votre aimable attention
>>
>> Remplir un formulaire de "Google Forms" c'est continuer à "enrichir" et
>> en profiter pour envoyer ses propres informations à Google.
>> Donc 
>>
>> Nota c'est écrit :
>> "Google Forms vous aide à collecter et analyser les données."
>>
>> --
>> J-C Etiemble
>>
>>
> 

Re: Camouflage de distribution ?

[fred]

Le 08/12/2018 à 13:35, ajh-valmer a écrit :
>> On Thursday 06 December 2018 18:46:39 ptilou wrote:
>>> Je voudrais d’la une Debian et la maquiller en une RedHat !
>>> Comment je dois faire ?
> 
> Il y a une idée sympa à réaliser,
> 
> créer sa propre distribution GNU/Linux à partir de Debian, 
> qui est 100% Libre, y mettre ses propres logos, images, liens,
> et tenter d'améliorer certains points, sur un objectif, par exemple, 
> une plus grande facilité d'installer des applis, matériels etc...
> 
> Ça rejoint d'ailleurs la philosophie du Libre,
> si on regarde les nombreux forks qui l'ont fait :
> Mysql  => MariaDB, Debian => Devuan,
> Openoffice => Libreoffice, Mandriva => Mageia,
> Ubuntu => Emmabuntüs...
> 
> Bon week-end,
> 
> A. Valmer
> 

Bonjour,

Pour le cas de MySQL et celui d'OpenOffice, tant que ces deux logiciels
étaient soutenus par Sun, il n'y avait pas de raison de forker. Suite au
rachat de Sun par Oracle en 2009, de nombreux développeurs ont eu
quelques craintes quand à l'avenir de ces deux logiciels et ont jugé
plus sage de forker. Je ne pense pas qu'ils ai choisi cette voie à la
légère.

Globalement, faut penser à maintenir le truc sur la durée après et ça,
c'est un gros investissement.

On peut le faire mais il ne faut pas le faire à la légère. C'est utile
mais il ne faut pas en abuser et essayer autant que possible de
contribuer au projet existant.

Fred

Mouse wheel scrolling hesitates

[Fred Okuma]

Hi,
My mouse wheel behaves in a bit strange way.

Right after moving into an application window, neither up nor down
scroll works until the second wheel "bump." Subsequent scrolls work fine
until I move out from the window.

I use stretch (9.5 or maybe 9.6) mate desktop on AMD E-450, USB-wired
Logitec mouse.

Now the funny part: some application respond to the wheel scroll right
from the first bump; some don't.

In stretch 9.5 installed mate desktop:
atril,
frefox, and
thunderbird work fine;

caja,
libreoffice,
pluma, and
mate-terminal miss the first bump;

In stretch 9.5.0 live mate desktop:
(debian-live-9.5.0-amd64-mate.iso)
atril,
firefox,
pluma, and
mate-terminal work fine;

caja and
libreoffice miss the first bump;

In stretch 9.6 live mate desktop:
(debian-live-9.6.0-amd64-mate.iso)
atril,
firefox,
pluma, and
mate-terminal work fine;

caja and
libreoffice miss the first bump;

In stretch 9.6 live gnome desktop:
(debian-live-9.6.0-amd64-gnome.iso)
firefox works fine;

evince,
gedit,
libreoffice,
nautilus, and
gnome-terminal miss the first bump;

In jessie 8.11 live mate-desktop:
(debian-live-8.11.0-amd64-mate-desktop.iso)
all above mentioned programs work fine.

Zoom-up/down by a mouse wheel behave the same way. That is, works fine
on the good program window, miss the first ctrl/wheel-up-or-down on the
unfortunate program window.

If you have two USB mice connected, say A and B, alternate 'wheeling'
responds similarly, like,
A-up-one,
B-up-one,
A-down-one,
B-up-one...will never get any response from unfortunate programs.

Any suggestions?

Fred
(not a member of this mailing list, yet)

Re: Problema com dependências de pacotes

[Fred Maranhão]

o que acontece quando você tenta remover o php7.2-curl?

apt purge php7.2-curl


Le mer. 31 oct. 2018 à 15:04, Leonardo S. S. da Rocha
 a écrit :
>
> Tudo Rodolfo, removi e tentei instalar:
> apache2 e as versões de PHP (5.6, 7.0 e 7.1) que estavam instaladas.
>
> Comandos que utilizei: apt-get remove --purge / apt-get purge /
> apt-get remove / apt-get autoremove / apt-get install -f / dpkg
> --configure -a e etc. Vou tentar essa do dpkg que me sugere. Posto
> aqui!
>
>
> Obrigado pela ajuda.
> Em qua, 31 de out de 2018 às 14:29, Rodolfo  escreveu:
> >
> > "Já desinstalei com purge e ao instalar novamente"
> >
> > O que exatamente você desinstalou com purge e o que exatamente você tentou 
> > instalar novamente?
> >
> > Rode o comando # dpkg -C para verificar se existem pacotes quebrados.
> >
> > Uma boa tentativa é você rodar a instalação/desinstalação com aptitude, o 
> > gerenciamento dele é mais robusto.
> >
> > Abs.
> >
> > Em qua, 31 de out de 2018 às 12:08, Leonardo S. S. da Rocha 
> >  escreveu:
> >>
> >> Meus amigos, boa tarde!
> >>
> >> recorro a vocês para que me ajudem com esse problema. Um colega
> >> acessou o servidor em produção e instalou pacotes que criaram um
> >> problemão pra mim.  Agora tento resolver as dependências e não estou
> >> conseguindo. Veja o erro:
> >>
> >> ~# apt-get -f install
> >> Lendo listas de pacotes... Pronto
> >> Construindo árvore de dependências
> >> Lendo informação de estado... Pronto
> >> 0 pacotes atualizados, 0 pacotes novos instalados, 0 a serem removidos
> >> e 0 não atualizados.
> >> 26 pacotes não totalmente instalados ou removidos.
> >> Depois desta operação, 0 B adicionais de espaço em disco serão usados.
> >> Configurando php7.2-common 
> >> (7.2.11-2+0~20181015120801.9+stretch~1.gbp8105e0) ...
> >> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.2-common (--configure):
> >> sub-processo script post-installation instalado retornou estado de
> >> saída de erro 10
> >> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php7.2-curl:
> >> php7.2-curl depende de php7.2-common (=
> >> 7.2.11-2+0~20181015120801.9+stretch~1.gbp8105e0); porém:
> >> Pacote php7.2-common não está configurado ainda.
> >> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.2-curl (--configure):
> >> problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
> >> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php-curl:
> >> php-curl depende de php7.2-curl; porém:
> >> Pacote php7.2-curl não está configurado ainda.
> >> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php-curl (--configure):
> >> problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
> >> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php7.2-mbstring:
> >> php7.2-mbstring depende de php7.2-common (=
> >> 7.2.11-2+0~20181015120801.9+stretch~1.gbp8105e0); porém:
> >> Pacote php7.2-common não está configurado ainda.
> >> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.2-mbstring (--configure):
> >> problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
> >> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php7.2-bz2:
> >> php7.2-bz2 depende de php7.2-common (=
> >> 7.2.11-2+0~20181015120801.9+stretch~1.gbp8105e0); porém:
> >> Pacote php7.2-common não está configurado ainda.
> >> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.2-bz2 (--configure):
> >> problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
> >> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php-mbstring:
> >> php-mbstring depende de php7.2-mbstring; porém:
> >> Pacote php7.2-mbstring não está configurado ainda.
> >> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php-mbstring (--configure):
> >>
> >> problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
> >>
> >> Configurando php5.6-gd (5.6.38-2+0~20181015120829.6+stretch~1.gbp567807) 
> >> ...
> >> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php5.6-gd (--configure):
> >> sub-processo script post-installation instalado retornou estado de
> >> saída de erro 10
> >> Configurando php7.0-common 
> >> (7.0.32-2+0~20181015120817.7+stretch~1.gbpa6b8cf) ...
> >> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.0-common (--configure):
> >> sub-processo script post-installation instalado retornou estado de
> >> saída de erro 10
> >> Configurando dbconfig-common (2.0.8) ...
> >> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote dbconfig-common (--configure):
> >> sub-processo script post-installation instalado retornou estado de
> >> saída de erro 10
> >> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de dbconfig-mysql:
> >> dbconfig-mysql depende de dbconfig-common (= 2.0.8); porém:
> >> Pacote dbconfig-common não está configurado ainda.
> >> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote dbconfig-mysql (--configure):
> >> problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
> >> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php7.2-mysql:
> >> php7.2-mysql depende de php7.2-common (=
> >> 7.2.11-2+0~20181015120801.9+stretch~1.gbp8105e0); porém:
> >> Pacote php7.2-common não está configurado ainda.
> >> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.2-mysql (--configure):
> >> problemas de 

Re: Proposta para renoemar as listas *-portuguse para *-brazilian até 31/10/18

[Fred Maranhão]

Le lun. 15 oct. 2018 à 12:40, Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA, Leandro
 a écrit :
>
> Le lun. 15 oct. 2018 à 11:46, Francisco M Neto  a écrit :
> >
> > Eu sou contra.
>
> Eu também.
>
> > É disso que trata a reforma ortográfica - aproximar o português
> > de portugal do brasileiro, do macaense, do cabo-verdense, etc.
>
> Mas não por esse motivo.  Considero essa uma deforma ortográfica.
>
> Minha razão, que creio óbvia, é a falta de movimento que justifique
> dividir, além da óbvia compreensão mútua entre os dialetos.

mas paulo deu a justificativa. é para separar a tradução do site.

compreensão mútua? realmente, o último livro de saramago que li foi
tranquilo. mas o ultimo filme português que vi foi meio difícil de
compreender.

Re: Proposta para renoemar as listas *-portuguse para *-brazilian até 31/10/18

[Fred Maranhão]

Le lun. 15 oct. 2018 à 11:47, Francisco M Neto  a écrit :
>
> Eu sou contra.
>
> Existe uma tendência de homogenização entre o português falado em diferentes
> países no mundo. É disso que trata a reforma ortográfica - aproximar o 
> português
> de portugal do brasileiro, do macaense, do cabo-verdense, etc.

não percebo esta tendência. A reforma ortográfica só disse que os dois
dialetos são válidos. inclusive no mesmo texto. ou seja, oficializou
um texto frankstein.

Re: Wanted - Debian(preferred)/Linux handheld

[Fred]

On 08/21/2018 01:08 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 08/21/2018 02:35 PM, Nicholas Geovanis wrote:
On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 12:29 PM Richard Owlett  
wrote:


I also stated I wished to avoid Amazon and Ebay.
  From when they both first opened I couldn't figure what there role is
in a transaction like this.


I would think that "profiteering-middleman" fits Amazon and Ebay here.
Apparently they don't make your life sufficiently easier to justify
the pound of flesh nearest
your heart (I mean, the profit margin...) as they do for most others.
All the hippies would
be around your age now, right? FYI that wasn't a value judgement


I be of that generation, but not of them 
My problem with their model is I don't know whom I dealing with.
Locally we have brick-n-mortar dens renting space o entrepreneur.
If you see something you pay landlord. WHO is responsible for customer 
satisfaction and/or import licenses etc.


If you wish to use a device in USA, it at minimum must meet UL and FCC 
regs. I was on the supplier end of that chain and doubt things have 
become less onerous ;/ Also who is responsible for meeting import regs 
and fees.


I have additional concerns. But covers High points.


Hi,
You won't have any problem ordering from amazon.co.uk.  I have ordered 
from them many times.  You don't have to worry about UL and FCC regs.  
European safety regs. are likely more stringent than US regs.  Import 
licenses apparently don't apply.

Try it.  You'll like it!
Best regards,
Fred

Re: What time is it, really?

[Fred]

On 08/10/2018 08:18 AM, David Wright wrote:

On Thu 09 Aug 2018 at 14:26:30 (-0700), Fred wrote:

On 08/09/2018 12:42 PM, Brian wrote:

On Thu 09 Aug 2018 at 20:39:16 +0200, john doe wrote:


On 8/9/2018 5:00 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote:

On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 10:49:52AM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote:

On Thu, 2018-08-09 at 10:35 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:

Whoever suggested that is using outdated information.  Install ntp

Why not openntpd?

https://packages.debian.org/stretch/openntpd

Sure, whatever you prefer.  There are at least 4 viable alternatives:

ntp
chrony
openntpd
systemd-timesyncd


Systemd-timesyncd is only a client and using sntp.

https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-timesyncd.service.html

Ideal for what the OP wants. Either that or chrony, if he would only
make his mind up.


Well, what makes you think I haven't made my mind up?

(I wasn't the one seeming impatient, but) I was going to enquire at
some time about how you got along with chrony (which you wrote you'd
try next).

The discussion you referred to might have been the one in June last
year when I wrote that chrony did not do a lot for me. I installed
it naively, ie I didn't poke it with chronyc, and the system remained
five seconds slow. OTOH ntp corrected it immediately and stays
precisely correct all the time. (jessie at the time.)
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/06/msg00450.html
In a follow-up, Brian had more success with chrony.


Several years ago I built a "network clock" that receives WWVB time
signals, has a clock display and an Ethernet interface so computers
on the local network can ask for the time.  The hardware works and
the software is able to decode the WWVB time code.  I am interested
in finishing it now.  The computers on the network can use a Perl
program to get the time.

Interesting. I played around with a Wireless World design in the
early 70's (TTL) where the "Rugby" time code (the slow one) was
decoded in hardware.

Currently we have a consumer radio clock which is a source of mystery
to me twice a year: the DST change occurs in the early evening on
Saturday instead of Sunday morning. In fact, it's about the time
that a UK clock would be changing if they moved on the same weekend
(which they typically don't). What does your home-built clock
reveal about the WWVB codes (assuming our clock is receiving the
same signal in KS)?

Cheers,
David.



Hi David,
I haven't tried chrony as I have renewed interest in completing the 
"network clock" project I started some time ago.  There are far more 
interesting "home projects" than you can shake a stick at.  I ran 
ntpdate once as root and it did correct the time.


WWVB supposedly covers the continental US. but I am sure there are areas 
that don't get useful signal strength.  The software for my clock is to 
the point of changing the signal time intervals into bits so the next 
step is doing something with the bits.

Best regards,
Fred

Re: What time is it, really?

[Fred]

On 08/09/2018 12:42 PM, Brian wrote:

On Thu 09 Aug 2018 at 20:39:16 +0200, john doe wrote:


On 8/9/2018 5:00 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote:

On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 10:49:52AM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote:

On Thu, 2018-08-09 at 10:35 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:

Whoever suggested that is using outdated information.  Install ntp


Why not openntpd?

https://packages.debian.org/stretch/openntpd

Sure, whatever you prefer.  There are at least 4 viable alternatives:

ntp
chrony
openntpd
systemd-timesyncd


Systemd-timesyncd is only a client and using sntp.

https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-timesyncd.service.html

Ideal for what the OP wants. Either that or chrony, if he would only
make his mind up.


Well, what makes you think I haven't made my mind up?

Several years ago I built a "network clock" that receives WWVB time 
signals, has a clock display and an Ethernet interface so computers on 
the local network can ask for the time.  The hardware works and the 
software is able to decode the WWVB time code.  I am interested in 
finishing it now.  The computers on the network can use a Perl program 
to get the time.


Thanks for the help.
Best regards,
Fred

Re: What time is it, really?

[Fred]

On 08/09/2018 07:42 AM, Nicolas George wrote:

Fred (2018-08-09):

Someone complained off list about the timestamp in my emails being off.
Being a hardware person I think hardware should work properly and clocks
should keep accurate time.  So I installed ntpdate as suggested but it is
not active yet.

Nowadays, unless you have religions objections, you should just enable
systemd-timesyncd, it is the most lightweight and transparent way of
enabling network time synchronization with nowadays Debian.

ntpdate is not really good because it only does punctual queries; ntpd
and timesyncd will keep stats and adjust more accurately.


If I ask google what time it is in Mesa AZ. the response agrees closely with
an "atomic" clock I have.  The computer clock is about 10 min. fast.

fred@ragnok:~$ /usr/sbin/ntpdate -q time.nist.gov
server 2610:20:6f96:96::4, stratum 1, offset -610.512368, delay 0.09421
server 132.163.96.4, stratum 1, offset -610.509394, delay 0.08899
  9 Aug 06:51:15 ntpdate[13672]: step time server 132.163.96.4

   ^^^

offset -610.509394 sec

fred@ragnok:~$ date
Thu Aug  9 06:51:18 MST 2018

The time server is quite close to the computer clock.

If you are looking at the time I underlined above, I am pretty sure
(looking at the source) that it is the local time, not the time returned
by the server.

Regards,


Hi,
I think you may be right.  It seems a stupid response from ntpdate since 
I asked the time from the server.  So, ntpdate maybe isn't what I should 
be using.


There was a discussion about time services on this list some time ago 
and at that time I decided chrony should be used so I will try it next.  
I don't want a service that keeps banging on the server.  Once a day 
seems reasonable to me.  Can chrony be configured to check in once a 
day.  I don't expect the time to be more accurate than 30 seconds.  The 
computer does run 24/7 so the drift is in the software.


Best regards,
Fred

What time is it, really?

[Fred]

Hi,

Someone complained off list about the timestamp in my emails being off.  
Being a hardware person I think hardware should work properly and clocks 
should keep accurate time.  So I installed ntpdate as suggested but it 
is not active yet.


If I ask google what time it is in Mesa AZ. the response agrees closely 
with an "atomic" clock I have.  The computer clock is about 10 min. fast.


fred@ragnok:~$ /usr/sbin/ntpdate -q time.nist.gov
server 2610:20:6f96:96::4, stratum 1, offset -610.512368, delay 0.09421
server 132.163.96.4, stratum 1, offset -610.509394, delay 0.08899
 9 Aug 06:51:15 ntpdate[13672]: step time server 132.163.96.4
offset -610.509394 sec

fred@ragnok:~$ date
Thu Aug  9 06:51:18 MST 2018

The time server is quite close to the computer clock.  What causes the 
discrepancy?  The offset in the time server response is about 10 min.  
The offset is measured from what to what and how is it measured?


Best regards,
Fred

Re: need help with sftp

[Fred]

On 08/07/2018 12:30 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote:

On Tue, Aug 07, 2018 at 12:15:34PM -0700, Fred wrote:

I need to ftp some files from a new Sid installation to either of two other
computers on the network.  Neither is configured for a "secure" version of
ftp and there is no reason to do that and Sid only has sftp.

If you only need an FTP client, that's easy enough.  You can use the
program "ftp" or if you want more features, you can install lftp and
use that.

The "ftp" package (which provides one of the possible /usr/bin/ftp client
programs) has standard priority, so it should be installed already.



Hi,

I am abandoning this as I found another way to transfer the files.  
Thanks for the help!


Best regards,
Fred

Re: need help with sftp

[Fred]

On 08/07/2018 10:20 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote:

On Tue, Aug 07, 2018 at 09:53:57AM -0700, Fred wrote:

On a new Sid installation I need to ftp some files to another computer on
the network.  sftp appears to be the only ftp program available.  The other
computers on the network do not use ssl so the ftp connection is refused
from both directions.  One computer is using vsftp under Jessie.  I don't
see any option that makes sftp just do plain ordinary ftp.  Is this
hopeless?

https://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie

SFTP and FTP are completely different protocols.  They have nothing in
common except 3 letters in their names.

SFTP is implemented on the server side by sshd.  You connect with an SFTP
client (e.g. the sftp command, or an sshfs mounted file system) using
the same credentials that you would use for a regular ssh session.  SFTP
is encrypted, it can be tunnelled through a firewall, etc.

FTP has none of those features.

If you actually *need* to use FTP for some reason (legacy systems on the
network), note first that Debian does NOT install an FTP server package
by default, but it offers several of them.  You can choose one, and
install it, and then you will be able to make FTP connections to your
Debian system.  Authentication will be done using whatever your chosen
FTP server package uses.  Traffic will be unencrypted, and will fly
around in random directions depending on which mode you use, and everything
will fall apart when there are firewalls between client and server.

If you think that you need FTP because of Microsoft Windows systems,
please note that there are many user-friendly graphical SFTP clients
for Microsoft Windows.  You are probably not restricted to its built-in
FTP client.



Hi,
I need to ftp some files from a new Sid installation to either of two 
other computers on the network.  Neither is configured for a "secure" 
version of ftp and there is no reason to do that and Sid only has sftp.  
I would be happy to install a less secure ftp package on the Sid 
installation but will need help doing that instead.  The default sources 
list for Sid apparently needs to be changed so that packages can be 
installed.  I have not had time to research that yet.


I do not use Bill Gates' cancerous, virus-infested, scourge of the Earth 
excuse for an OS!

Best regards,
Fred

need help with sftp

[Fred]

Hi,

On a new Sid installation I need to ftp some files to another computer 
on the network.  sftp appears to be the only ftp program available.  The 
other computers on the network do not use ssl so the ftp connection is 
refused from both directions.  One computer is using vsftp under 
Jessie.  I don't see any option that makes sftp just do plain ordinary 
ftp.  Is this hopeless?


Best regards,
Fred

Re: need help with bashburn

[Fred]

On 08/03/2018 03:18 PM, Fred wrote:

On 08/03/2018 02:14 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:

On Fri, 3 Aug 2018, Greg Wooledge wrote:


Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2018 17:10:17
From: Greg Wooledge 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: need help with bashburn
Resent-Date: Fri,  3 Aug 2018 21:10:33 + (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org

On Fri, Aug 03, 2018 at 05:07:38PM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote:

Try running typescript then run that final bashburn command then type
exit and read the message that flashes on the screen too fast in a 
file

called typescript on your hard drive.  Hope this helps. bashburn when
you get it working is a speed demon!

You mean script(1) for the command.  typescript is the name of the
(default) output file.


Right, and it's been a while since I ran bashburn and I had a similar
error.  You have to link the iso before you can burn it with bashburn 
but

I forget the specifics on that one.

Hi,
I tried script, partial results follow:
++
| BashBurn 3.0.1 |
++
|
|-(ISO Menu)
|  0) Burn ISO
|  1) Create ISO from files in /tmp/burn
|  2) Create ISO from CD
|  3) Burn DVD image
|  4) Mount image
|  5) Back

|
Your Choice? [0-5] |> 0
Not enabling overburn...
wodim: No write mode specified.
wodim: Assuming -tao mode.
wodim: Future versions of wodim may have different drive dependent 
defaults.

wodim: Badly placed option. Global options must be before any track.
Burning failed.
File(s) linked/copied to /tmp/burn ?
++
| BashBurn 3.0.1 |
++
|
|-(ISO Menu)
|  0) Burn ISO
|  1) Create ISO from files in /tmp/burn
|  2) Create ISO from CD
|  3) Burn DVD image
|  4) Mount image
|  5) Back

The write mode is specified as cdrtao in the config menu.  It looks to 
me like something changed in wodim and bashburn has not been updated 
accordingly.


I think I will try cdrskin.

Best regards,
Fred



Hi,
I tried cdrskin as Ben Oliver suggested and it worked like a champ on 
the first try!  Maybe I don't care about bashburn after all.


Thanks for the help!
Best regards,
Fred

Re: need help with bashburn

[Fred]

On 08/03/2018 02:14 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:

On Fri, 3 Aug 2018, Greg Wooledge wrote:


Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2018 17:10:17
From: Greg Wooledge 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: need help with bashburn
Resent-Date: Fri,  3 Aug 2018 21:10:33 + (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org

On Fri, Aug 03, 2018 at 05:07:38PM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote:

Try running typescript then run that final bashburn command then type
exit and read the message that flashes on the screen too fast in a file
called typescript on your hard drive.  Hope this helps.  bashburn when
you get it working is a speed demon!

You mean script(1) for the command.  typescript is the name of the
(default) output file.


Right, and it's been a while since I ran bashburn and I had a similar
error.  You have to link the iso before you can burn it with bashburn but
I forget the specifics on that one.

Hi,
I tried script, partial results follow:
++
| BashBurn 3.0.1 |
++
|
|-(ISO Menu)
|  0) Burn ISO
|  1) Create ISO from files in /tmp/burn
|  2) Create ISO from CD
|  3) Burn DVD image
|  4) Mount image
|  5) Back

|
Your Choice? [0-5] |> 0
Not enabling overburn...
wodim: No write mode specified.
wodim: Assuming -tao mode.
wodim: Future versions of wodim may have different drive dependent 
defaults.

wodim: Badly placed option. Global options must be before any track.
Burning failed.
File(s) linked/copied to /tmp/burn ?
++
| BashBurn 3.0.1 |
++
|
|-(ISO Menu)
|  0) Burn ISO
|  1) Create ISO from files in /tmp/burn
|  2) Create ISO from CD
|  3) Burn DVD image
|  4) Mount image
|  5) Back

The write mode is specified as cdrtao in the config menu.  It looks to 
me like something changed in wodim and bashburn has not been updated 
accordingly.


I think I will try cdrskin.

Best regards,
Fred

need help with bashburn

[Fred]

Hello,

I am trying to burn a debian netinst.iso to a cd using bashburn. I have 
configured bashburn, copied the .iso to /tmp/burn.  When I select burn 
ISO there is a message that flashes way too fast to read and the menu 
returns but it does not burn anything.


(Debian jessie)

Best regards,
Fred

Re: GarminExpress possible on Debian with WINE?

[Fred]

On 07/25/2018 01:27 PM, Roy wrote:
Thanks Floris and Doug for your replies.  Now I know that my question 
made it to the list and at least one other person has a similar 
concern with Garmin Express.


By Googling this, I have read many different forums and web pages 
about installing this on Linux.  Most of those discussions were from 
2010 ~ 2017.  The only solution indicated to work was to install 
Windows as a guest in a virtual machine.  Oracle VirtualBox seems to 
be the most popular.  It is what I have used to evaluate numerous 
Linux distros until finding those I like the best.


Since WINE is still under active development and it is 2018, I was 
hoping that someone would respond with "It works on WINE if you do 
this, this and this..."  At least that would let me know that it was 
possible.  I am now of the opinion that GarminExpress-on-WINE is not 
possible at this time.  Either use the Windows-in-VBox or 
Windows-dual-boot solution.


I am not a programmer but I consider myself to be a reasonably 
proficient user from using DOS and various versions of Windows since 
the early 1980's. I have only been using Linux for about 4 months and 
Google answers most of my questions.


Doug-

to try to answer your question a "clean 32-bit Wineprefix", from what 
I see in WINE is a virtual hard drive designated as C:\ as Windows 
would do it.  It contains a complete file system that looks like a 
mini-Windows installation.  It is designated as a 32-bit or 64-bit at 
the time it is created.  Much like installing a 32 or 64 bit version 
of Windows.  This is where the Windows program of concern and all of 
its supporting components get installed.  If you want a more complete 
explanation please check out the WINE wiki page.


So, I am going to stop pursuing this unless any one else responds that 
they have been able to make it work.


Best regards,

Roy



On 07/25/2018 01:13 PM, Doug wrote:


On 07/25/2018 06:18 AM, floris wrote:

Roy schreef op 2018-07-25 01:37:




(G-Express needs dotNetframework.  That is where I get stuck when

trying to install it using WINE.)



Without knowing the .Net version, you could try to use a clean 
32-bit Wineprefix and use winetricks to install .Net

---
Floris


I have a similar question about installing the Garmin updater. I'm 
afraid I don't understand the above. What is meant
by "a clean 32-bit Wineprefix"? Is Wineprefix a file, or what? I have 
wine32.32bit, if that is relevant.


Thanx--doug





Hello,
You might try the commercial version of wine at https://www.codeweavers.com
They have a free trial version and if it works the full version is not 
very expensive.

Best regards,
Fred

Re: Problems with https://manpages.debian.org/

[Fred]

On 06/23/2018 05:23 PM, John Crawley wrote:

On 2018-06-24 03:18, Richard Owlett wrote:
For the past couple of weeks I've had problems connecting to 
https://manpages.debian.org/ . 


Usually these days (last couple of months?) when I click a link in 
Firefox pointing to an online Debian manpage it takes a very long time 
to load, and sometimes drops out.
OTOH if I paste the address directly in the address bar it opens 
immediately.
I assumed it's a Firefox problem, though it's only the Debian site, 
and left it on my to-do list...


In other words, "me too".
I am using firefox-esr (52.7.3) on Jessie and the above link opens 
immediately.

Best regards,
Fred

Re: Canal do Portal Aprendendo Linux no Telegram

[Fred Maranhão]

Em Sex, 15 de jun de 2018 6:01 PM, Henrique Fagundes
 escreveu:
>
> Prezados,
>
> Esse "usuário" tem nome! Sou eu quem estou postando.
> Um único post meu solicitando o ingresso em meu canal no Telegram e o
> cadastro em meu site causa tanto mal estar?

sim

> Os artigos que eu compartilho aqui (todos homologados no Debian)... Será
> que causam?

sim

Re: open big data ?

[fred]

Bonjour,

Ça n'a pas grand chose à voir avec Debian ou le logiciel libre. A ta
place, je contacterai directement l'INPI pour en savoir plus. Il est
aussi question d'une licence à leur renvoyer avant d'avoir accès aux
données. Il faut peut-être commencer par là ...

note : juste pour clarifier le titre, les données dont tu parles ici
c'est de l'open data dans le sens où elles sont mises à disposition
publiquement mais ce n'est très probablement pas du big data car les
volumes de données restent vraiment très réduits (bien en deçà du To).

Fred

Le 14/06/2018 à 23:48, ptilou a écrit :
> Bonsoir,
> 
> Je voulais savoir si quelqu'un avait réaliser
>  quelque chose a propos des data de l'inpi ?
> 
> https://www.inpi.fr/fr/open-data-l-inpi-met-gratuitement-disposition-les-donnees-issues-du-rncs
> 
> Je cherche des bilans de sociétés, je viens d'en 
> acheter pour 42 étoiles certifier avec des erreurs 
> au tribunal de commerce, on peut pas les lire avant
>  d'avoir payé !
>  je suis obligé de travailler à ma grande déception,
>  je dois rendre ma copie pour le 15 juillet !
> 
> ce n'est pas un troll, je cherche un commerçant avec
>  une amplitude de CA de 80 000 à 200 000 euros, des bilans
>  propre, pas un truc d'amateur, c'est pour avoir un diplôme 
> pour poursuivre des études de droit !
> 
> Mais cela peut servir à des gens qui font des études 
> de marché et du LL sous Debian !(par exemple)
> 
> Merci
> 

selectief upgraden

[Fred]

Beste Lijst,

Ik gebruik Debian Stretch (Stable) welke tijden de installatie Libre 
office 5.2 heeft geinstalleerd.
Daar heb ik een probleempje mee wat wellicht opgelost is als ik hier een 
nieuwere versie van gebruik.


Nu weet ik niet of het handig is om van stable naar testing over te 
stappen, maar is het ook mogelijk om testing in de repository toe te 
voegen en hier selectief gebruik van te maken?


Fred

need help with gtkam (on Jessie)

[Fred]

Hello,

I am trying to use gtkam to manage a digital camera.  It allowed the 
camera (Nikon D7100) to be selected but won't do anything else.  The 
error message is:


Could not list folders in '/'.  An error occurred in the io-library 
('Bad parameters'): No error description available


The debug file provided is:

ALWAYS INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING LINES WHEN SENDING DEBUG MESSAGES TO THE 
MAILING LIST:

gtkam 0.2.0
gtkam has been compiled with the following options:
 + gcc (C compiler used)
 + no bonobo (for FIXME)
 + no gnome (for FIXME)
 + no gimp (plugin for The Gimp)
 + exif (for displaying exif information)
libgphoto2 2.5.4
libgphoto2 has been compiled with the following options:
 + all camlibs
 + gcc (C compiler used)
 + ltdl (for portable loading of camlibs)
 + EXIF (for special handling of EXIF files)
libgphoto2_port 0.10.0
libgphoto2_port has been compiled with the following options:
 + gcc (C compiler used)
 + ltdl (for portable loading of camlibs)
 + USB (libusb1, for USB cameras)
 + serial (for serial cameras)
 + no resmgr (serial port access and locking)
 + no ttylock (serial port locking)
 + no lockdev (serial port locking)


The backend command line program gphoto2 appears to work ok.  At least 
it will download photos from the camera without complaint.


Best regards,
Fred

Re: a hexeditor please

[Fred]

On 02/09/2018 08:36 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:

Greetings all;

Trying to scan thru an 8Gb file dd has made of an sd card, I find
khexedits lack of a scroll bar to be a huge hindrance.

Do we have one of those critters that will let me scan thru a file that
big looking for data besides 00 00, and will do it yet this year?

Story so far:

64 gb card from a working rock64. Edited 60-persistent-storage.rule to
exclude /dev/sdd so gparted could shrink the last partition down to a
usable size, but still above the occupied area.

Used dd to make a file of the first 8Gb, wrote that 8Gb to another
identical 64Gb card. gparted says its a blank card. So I want to inspect
the file, but khexedit, with no scroll bar, makes that down arrow scan a
multiyear project.

Do we have a better hex editor?

Thanks all;


How about using a text editor (like nedit) that has a search function.

Best regards,
Fred

Re: EDA software.

[Fred]

On 12/06/2017 09:57 AM, pe...@easthope.ca wrote:

Hi,

At https://wiki.debian.org/DebianTinker/Desktop#EDA is a list of
packages for electronics design automation.  According to various
documents, Electric, Fritzing and gEDA, at least, can help to create
schematics.  I use librecad but have never used schematic construction
software.  Which of the EDA packages will be a good starting point?
Is any integrated with Librecad?

Thanks,... Peter E.
I recommend xcircuit for schematic capture.  The author Tim Edwards at 
opencircuitdesign.com is very helpful.


Best regards,
Fred Boatwright