Re: There is necesary libc5-altdev to compile ld.so?
On Mon, Sep 28, 1998 at 08:36:18PM -0300, Hernan Joel Cervantes Rodriguez wrote: I am having problems with the ld.so and/or with the libc6. I released my bo linux to hamm 2 week ago. I used the cd-autoup.sh program. The upgrading was fine and without big problems. However the myself compiled programs, after the upgrading, do not run anymore. The programs stop with SIGSEGV signal after calling to getpid(). In all likeliness, this is because the dynamic loader cannot find the libc5 version of a library your program is linked against, and loads it against the libc6 library. In the NEEDS part of the output of objdump --all-headers on your binary, you can find which libc5 libraries the binary was linked against. Compare that to the output of ldd on your binary, which shows you what libraries the binary will be loaded against. If ldd shows it being loaded against libc6, or both libc5 and libc6, that's the problem; it shows you haven't installed a particular libc5 library (which can be found in hamm's oldlibs section). HTH, Ray -- Tevens ben ik van mening dat Nederland overdekt dient te worden.
Re: No GIF in gimp?
On Wed, Sep 30, 1998 at 04:04:54PM +0200, Stef Hoesli Wiederwald wrote: Why can't I save my pictures as GIF in the gimp? Thanks to the joy of software patents? http://lpf.ai.mit.edu/Patents/Gif/Gif.html You could perhaps consider using gimp-nonfree in non-free/graphics . HTH, Ray -- Obsig: developing a new sig
Re: Debian 2.0 Cheaper Bytes again
On Mon, Sep 28, 1998 at 12:14:12PM +, D.L.WHITELEY wrote: I have the CheapBytes 4 CD set. I was wondering if there is a clean way of maintaining the dselect package list on my machine while also installing stuff of the extra CDs. The way I'd do this would be - dpkg --clear-available - for each CD, for each distribtution: dpkg --merge-avail Packages - dselect [S]elect - dselect [I]nstall (first main CD, then non-free CD, then contrib CD). If I copy a .deb file onto somewhere on my HD and use dpkg -i does this update the list of packages reported when I run dselect again? It's included in dselect's list of installed packages; it is not added to the list of packages that are available to dselect. To add a single package to dselect's list of available packages, do dpkg --record-avail the.deb . HTH, Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before.
Re: Debian 2.0 Cheaper Bytes again
On Mon, Sep 28, 1998 at 12:14:12PM +, D.L.WHITELEY wrote: I have the CheapBytes 4 CD set. I was wondering if there is a clean way of maintaining the dselect package list on my machine while also installing stuff of the extra CDs. Another option might be the dpkg-multicd method written by Heiko Schlittermann; it's available from ftp://ftp.datom.de/pub/people/heiko/debian/ Unfortunately, the .deb doesn't have a copyright file, and the source for 0.5 (the 0.7 source's permissions are wrong) doesn't contain copyright information. As such, we cannot distribute it as part of Debian; Heiko, please consider changing this. Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before.
Re: Habe ein Problem
On Mon, Sep 28, 1998 at 01:31:07PM +0100, Manuel wrote: Da kommt dann die Fehlermeldung, No acces methos is selected/ configured. Dann habe ich ausprobiert, Acces. Wenn ich dann das Laufwerk auswaehle (weil ich ja von CD-ROM installiere). Dann kommt diese Meldung, Insert the CD-ROM and enter the block device name. You don't tell what went wrong afterwards; I'll assume you don't know what block device name to provide. The block device name is the name by which Linux refers to your CD-ROM. Unfortunately, this question can be confusing to a new user, as no suggestions are made. Assuming your CD-ROM is an (E)IDE one, the block device name is one of /dev/hda (first IDE interface; master), /dev/hdb (first IDE interface; slave), /dev/hdc (second IDE interface; master), /dev/hdd (second IDE interface; slave). Hope this helps, Ray -- Tevens ben ik van mening dat Nederland overdekt dient te worden.
Re: Backspace and Delete weirds
You don't provide enough information. The backspace/delete behaviour is only correct when you use the XKB (X Keyboard) extension. Are you using it? (check that there's no XkbDisable in your /etc/X11/XF86Config) What terminal emulators (xterm, rxvt, xvt, kvt, ...) have problems? What applications have problems? Ray -- Tevens ben ik van mening dat Nederland overdekt dient te worden.
Re: Novell and Linux (pam_ncp again)
[Paulo, please limit your lines to less than 80 characters] On Mon, Sep 28, 1998 at 10:15:17AM -0300, Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira wrote: I downloaded http://www.csn.ul.ie/~airlied/pam_ncp/pam_ncp.0.5.tgz, compile, put into /etc/pam_ncp.conf the Novell Server and the README tells about this that I don't understand. What is starred password? The pam_ncp is very RedHat centric. Notes: The user must be in the password file to allow the user to login. If the user hasn't a starred password the password in the file will work, If the user has a starred password it will go to the Netware server. This means that if the user's password (the second field in /etc/shadow (or /etc/passwd if you're not using shadow passwords)) is set to *, the user's password from the Netware server will be used; if it is not set to *, that (encrypted) password will be used. See shadow(5) and passwd(5) for more information on /etc/shadow and /etc/passwd . HTH, Ray -- UNFAIR Term applied to advantages enjoyed by other people which we tried to cheat them out of and didn't manage. See also DISHONESTY, SNEAKY, UNDERHAND and JUST LUCKY I GUESS. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: DEB vs RPM
On Tue, Sep 29, 1998 at 12:28:57AM +1000, Shao Ying Zhang wrote: Lots people have told me that there are more deb packages than rpm. But just by looking at the web site rufus.w3.org/linux/RPM/, they have 10434 packages listed. AFAIK, this count include different versions, ports to non-i386 machines, source RPMs, libc5 + libc6 version of just about everything, etc. Also, the bigger part of these are not supported by Red Hat in any way. As such, I don't think this says more than there are a lot of .rpm files around. Now, do we have this number of deb packages?? The .deb count is probably somewhere in the 2000-2500 range (calculate from debian/dists/unstable/*/binary-i386/Packages.gz for precise numbers). Anyway, we can always install RPM in our debian system. But my concern is: Will it stuff up the dpkg system?? If you install it with rpm, in all likeliness, yes. If you use alien, probably not (unless it's an RPM of a critical system component). HTH, Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before.
Re: june 1998 CDrom disk set - Debian
On Mon, Sep 28, 1998 at 07:55:38AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Infomagic labelled Debian 2.0 containing 1.3.1] Hum. Wonder what they had in mind? I thought I purchased the 2.0 release, but it is clearly an error. It is. This is the umpteenth mistake wrt Debian Infomagic have made with their CD set. I cannot currently in good conscience recommend their CD set to anyone interested in Debian . They've put unstable versions on CD (ever wonder why there was never a Debian 1.0?), put broken packages and broken hierarchies on CD, etc. We started producing official ISO 9660 CD images specifically so that these types of problem would no longer occur, but IIRC, they chose to ignore the official CD images. To Infomagic: your track record wrt Debian is very bad, and frankly, I think that you're doing a disservice to the Linux community in general, and the Debian community specifically by distributing broken Debian CDs. Unfortunately, in many places outside the US, yours is the only CD set that is easily available. As such, I'd hate to see you drop Debian. Please use up to date official Debian CD images, or, if for some reason that's not an option for you, ask people on the debian-cd@lists.debian.org list to help you in producing working up to date, properly working Debian CDs. Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before.
Re: Is there any FREE alternative for libdb2 in debian?
On Thu, Sep 24, 1998 at 11:53:16AM +0200, Martin Bialasinski wrote: libdb2 is in main, so it is DFSG-free. So you have no restrictions in using it. A library can be DFSG-free, but have restrictions that may make it unusable for some development tasks. For example, some libraries (e.g. readline) are licensed under the GPL, rather than the LGPL, thus requiring programs developed with them to be GPLed themselves. Thus, you can't use readline for software that you want to distribute in binary form only. Ray -- UNFAIR Term applied to advantages enjoyed by other people which we tried to cheat them out of and didn't manage. See also DISHONESTY, SNEAKY, UNDERHAND and JUST LUCKY I GUESS. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: Fixkeys Mini Howto
[Robert, this could be the basis for a FAQ entry: How do I resize a Linux partition?] On Wed, Sep 23, 1998 at 04:42:33AM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: Hans wrote: Guesss it's time for me to install debian, anyone know an easy way to resize an ext2 partition so I can add another one?? You can't yet resize an ext2 partition. False. You can if you really want to. There's an ext2 resizer available as part of the commercial Partition magic product (http://www.partitionmagic.com/) for Windows. The code was written by a developer of ext2 (Ted T'so) and will be released under the GPL in the future. See http://slashdot.org/articles/98/09/22/2153256.shtml . HTH, Ray -- J.H.M. Dassen | RUMOUR Believe all you hear. Your world may [EMAIL PROTECTED] | not be a better one than the one the blocks | live in but it'll be a sight more vivid. | - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: Keyboard Policy
[Note: mailing list change] On Wed, Sep 23, 1998 at 01:02:18PM +0200, Rainer Dorsch wrote: After upgrading from 1.3 to 2.0 my system decided to ignore -- in an xterm, netscape, but work on the console, emacs, etc. Do you have Xkb enabled? The implementation of the keyboard policy for X only works for Xkb. `--' generates KB_Backspace in X. `Delete' generates KB_Delete in X. KB_Backspace, what is this? An X keyboard event name (or something like it); check with xev. That is all for me. The policy is not understandable for non-experts While it would be nice if it were, this isn't exactly a requirement; it is meant for the developers who have to implement it. and the system is not working as it should. This may be a result of not switching to updated configuration files as supplied by the maintainer; I'd look into xbase's configuration files, and in /etc/X11/XF86Config (which may have XKbdDisable in it). Ray -- Obsig: developing a new sig
Re: Shared Lib problem
On Mon, Sep 21, 1998 at 12:13:19PM +1200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm having problems using some software downloaded from the net (netscape, StarOffice etc etc). Apperantly you didn't use the installer packages provided for these. I'll use the setup for StarOffice as an example of the problem. But neither netscape, nor acrobat work either, and crash with similar problems. You don't have all the libc5 libraries these programs require installed. Using the installer packages would have taken care of that. It seems that libc6 is not required, it has libc5 (latest and last version), so why does ldd report a requirement for libc6 ? Because ldd shows you what libraries a binary will be loaded against. In this case, the binary depends on the libc5 version of a particular library, which isn't available; therefore, the dynamic loader will load it against the libc6 version, causing havoc. HTH, Ray -- J.H.M. Dassen | RUMOUR Believe all you hear. Your world may [EMAIL PROTECTED] | not be a better one than the one the blocks | live in but it'll be a sight more vivid. | - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: pcmcia modules
On Mon, Sep 21, 1998 at 10:28:32AM +0200, Remo Badii wrote: I have just installed pcmcia-source with dselect and run make menuconfig make-kpkg --revision=custom.1.0 kernel_image modules_image dpkg -i ../kernelx.xx.deb You also should also dpkg -i ../pcmcia-modules-x.x.xx_x.x.x...deb HTH, Ray -- UNFAIR Term applied to advantages enjoyed by other people which we tried to cheat them out of and didn't manage. See also DISHONESTY, SNEAKY, UNDERHAND and JUST LUCKY I GUESS. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: star office 4.0
On Mon, Sep 21, 1998 at 10:23:30AM +0100, Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS wrote: ftp://ftp.stardivision.com/pub/so4/linux/sp3/01/README.01: Note that this version of StarOffice 4.0 is a x86-compatible version, which requires a current LINUX distribution. That means you need at least a LibC - Rel. 5.4.22 or higher! LibC.6 -also known as glibC2- is not supported. Does this mean that it won't run with Debian 2.0? No. It means that there's no libc6 version of StarOffice. Will StarOffice 5 run with Debian 2.0? In all likelyhood, yes. Provided you install all the libc5 libraries it needs. HTH, Ray -- UNFAIR Term applied to advantages enjoyed by other people which we tried to cheat them out of and didn't manage. See also DISHONESTY, SNEAKY, UNDERHAND and JUST LUCKY I GUESS. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: Q: MIPS machine + Linux?
On Mon, Sep 21, 1998 at 09:32:38AM -0400, Stephen J. Carpenter wrote: I seem to remember that there is a Linux port for MIPS anyone know anything about it? See http://lena.fnet.fr/ Debian doesn't apear to have a MIPS dist (yet :) - we seem to have almost everything else). From http://www.debian.org/ports/ : :There has been some work in porting debian to the MIPS architecture, used :in SGI machines. However, this project is currently frozen, and needs :developer support. If you have an SGI, and are interesting in furthering :the port effort, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] HTH, Ray -- PATRIOTISM A great British writer once said that if he had to choose between betraying his country and betraying a friend he hoped he would have the decency to betray his country. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: libraries have no symbols
On Sun, Sep 20, 1998 at 01:14:30AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: Why do the system libraries not have symbols? They do have some symbols in them. Try e.g. nm --dynamic --defined-only /lib/libc.so.6 Ray -- ART A friend of mine in Tulsa, Okla., when I was about eleven years old. I'd be interested to hear from him. There are so many pseudos around taking his name in vain. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: ssl-telnet vs ssh
SSL-telnet: + free - not employed in many places - authentication is host-based only - only remote shell (there's SSL-ftp(d), but they're not packaged) +- supports unencrypted connections by default (if you want all connections to use encryption, add -z secure to the telnetd line in /etc/inetd.conf) SSH: - non-free (but people are working on a free implementation of the v2 protocol: http://www.net.lut.ac.uk/psst/) + user identity as well as host-based authentication supported + supports secure file transfer (scp) and forwarding of arbitrary TCP ports (including X11 connections). + identity makes single logon possible (if you set up your remote accounts right, you only need to remember your passphrase). +- requires encrypted connections by default ? more control over what type/strenght of encryption you want to allow Luckily, it's not an either/or situation. You can run both on the same machine (for instance, on several machines I have both sshd and ssltelnetd (-z secure)). HTH, Ray -- J.H.M. Dassen | RUMOUR Believe all you hear. Your world may [EMAIL PROTECTED] | not be a better one than the one the blocks | live in but it'll be a sight more vivid. | - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: Linux for Disabled -- Contact sought
On Tue, Sep 15, 1998 at 11:40:40PM +0100, Ted Harding wrote: A few years back there was a guy (in the US) active on some of the Linux lists who was developing linux applications for the disabled. He set up his own list, as I recall, and disappeared from general view. The Linux Access HOWTO has this (http://sunsite.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/Access-HOWTO-7.html#ss7.2): :7.2 Mailing Lists : :There are two lists that I know of covering these issues specifically for :Linux. There are also others which it is worth researching which cover :computer use more generally. Incidentally, if a mail is sent to these lists :I will read it eventually and include any important information in the :Access-HOWTO, so you don't need to send me a separate copy unless it's :urgent in some way. : :The Linux Access List : :This is a general list covering Linux access issues. It is designed `to :service the needs of users and developers of the Linux OS and software who :are either disabled or want to help make Linux more accessible'. To :subscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and in the BODY :(not the subject) of the email message put: : : subscribe linux-access your-email-address : :The Linux Blind List : :This is a mailing list covering Linux use for blind users. There is also a :list of important and useful software being gathered in the list's archive. :To subscribe send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the :subject: help. This list is now moderated. HTH, Ray -- J.H.M. Dassen | RUMOUR Believe all you hear. Your world may [EMAIL PROTECTED] | not be a better one than the one the blocks | live in but it'll be a sight more vivid. | - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: scilab demos crash whole scilab
On Wed, Sep 16, 1998 at 03:46:51PM +0200, Jan Krupa wrote: $ Scilab: warning, error event receieved: X Error of failed request: BadPixmap (invalid Pixmap parameter) Major opcode of failed request: 54 (X_FreePixmap) Resource id in failed request: 0x0 Serial number of failed request: 1920 Current serial number in output stream: 1985 This is just a wild guess, but are you using an Athena variant library (e.g. Xaw3D, Xaw95 or NeXtAw instead of plain Xaw)? Some binaries fail with a message very similar to the one you report then. Uncomment the Athena variant library directories in /etc/ld.so.conf, run ldconfig, and try again. If that does the trick, look into the xaw-wrappers on how to specify plain Athena for the problematic binaries. HTH, Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before.
Re: Encrypted File System.
[Courtesy copy of Usenet posting] Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone herd or seen a thing called Encrypted File system on any Debian or Linux distribution??? I am told it's lurking around, but this source is not all that reliable. I am interested in this, as I am sure everyone else might be. If it's a load of crap and doesn't exist, maybe someone out there will invent an encrypted file system :) There are several encrypted filesystems for Linux. Ones aimed at distributed filesystems (NFS replacements): - CFS, which has been packaged and is available from nonUS.debian.org. - TCFS, http://tcfs.dia.unisa.it/ Another approach is using a loop filesystem (see losetup(8)) with DES encryption; see ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/Linux/BETA/loop/ . There's also something at ftp://ftp.replay.com/pub/replay/pub/linux/all . And there was an article on encrypted filesystems in the July issue of Linux Journal. HTH, Ray -- ART A friend of mine in Tulsa, Okla., when I was about eleven years old. I'd be interested to hear from him. There are so many pseudos around taking his name in vain. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Resizing ext2fs (was Re: Fixkeys Mini Howto)
On Mon, Sep 14, 1998 at 12:54:23PM +0200, Hans wrote: Guesss it's time for me to install debian, anyone know an easy way to resize an ext2 partition so I can add another one?? There's an ext2 resizer available for Partition Magic. Currently, there's no free version/alternative. The resizer was written by Ted T'so, and will be made available under GPL after a period of time. HTH, Ray -- Obsig: developing a new sig
Re: Can i use Lib5 and lib6 together?
On Sun, Sep 13, 1998 at 05:22:33PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to install both (Lib5 / Lib6) so that they can work together? Yes. If you upgrade your system to 2.0 (follow the upgrade instructions provided on the website), you'll get a system that is libc6 based, but which can run libc5 binaries fine. HTH, Ray -- PATRIOTISM A great British writer once said that if he had to choose between betraying his country and betraying a friend he hoped he would have the decency to betray his country. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: Why does Debian use ncurses-1.9.9g and not 4.x
On Tue, Sep 08, 1998 at 09:44:59PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well the subject says it all. Why does Debian use ncurses-1.9.9g and not the 4.x series which has been out since Dec 96? Part of the answer is that our ncurses maintainer has been away for several months. I'm not sure about the rest of the answer. Ncurses is a pretty complex piece of software to maintain. On Wed, Sep 09, 1998 at 12:54:23AM -0500, Azog wrote: Yup! I compiled my own ncurses 4.2, and was thinking bout making a .deb and 'unofficially' distributing it. Maybe not. Not please. Galen Hazelwood, the ncurses maintainer, is now coming back to Debian work. He has already received my work towards a debianisation of 4.2, and I'm sure he'll appreciate help. Having unofficial versions isn't something I'd like to encourage. Ray -- UNFAIR Term applied to advantages enjoyed by other people which we tried to cheat them out of and didn't manage. See also DISHONESTY, SNEAKY, UNDERHAND and JUST LUCKY I GUESS. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: pc keyboard oddity in xterm
On Wed, Sep 09, 1998 at 08:46:56AM +0100, Helge Hafting wrote: [home and end behaviour reversed when editing command lines in xterm] This problem has been fixed in xbase 3.3.2.2-2 and newer (including the version in stable), by an update of the conffile /etc/X11/Xresources which now has ! Make the delete key generate ^[[3~ instead of ^?, per Debian keyboard policy. ! Make the home and end keys appear to always be in keypad-application mode. ! Include override for BackSpace because older xterms do not understand the ! backarrowKey resource. *VT100.Translations: #override KeyBackSpace: string(\177)\n\ KeyDelete: string(\033[3~)\n\ KeyHome: string(\033OH)\n\ KeyEnd: string(\033OF) HTH, Ray -- UNFAIR Term applied to advantages enjoyed by other people which we tried to cheat them out of and didn't manage. See also DISHONESTY, SNEAKY, UNDERHAND and JUST LUCKY I GUESS. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: LinuxCentral CDROM
I'm not the expert on Debian's finances, but here's my understanding. Nils, please correct me where I'm wrong. On Mon, Sep 07, 1998 at 10:14:45PM -0700, ... wrote: I was about to place an order for the 3 CD set of Debian 2.0 from Linux Central and noticed that you can donate $5 of your purchase towards the Debian project. I was wondering, who gets this money? Is it SPI? Yes. With the recent changes in the SPI board, all board members of SPI are active Debian developers. SPI was originally set up to handle legal and financial aspects of Debian, and possibly other projects, and that's what it is doing. Does it go to pay for servers/bandwith for the main HTTP/FTP sites? As far as I know, all bandwith is donated, as well as the servers to a large degree. The money is used for a lot of different things, including - domain registration fees for debian.org - some hardware acquisitions - hiring booth space on Linux related trade shows - membership costs for Linux International and probably lots of other similiar things. HTH, Ray -- J.H.M. Dassen | RUMOUR Believe all you hear. Your world may [EMAIL PROTECTED] | not be a better one than the one the blocks | live in but it'll be a sight more vivid. | - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: Which packages for c++ development?
On Tue, Sep 08, 1998 at 04:21:00PM +0200, Peter Weiss wrote: I need an egcs-1.1b c++ development - so I've to go for slink. The current packages are actually egcs-1.1a (b only fixes one typo :-). So which do I need for development with an egcs-1.1b release and the Stl? You need g++- The GNU (egcs) C++ compiler. libstdc++2.9 - The GNU stdc++ library (egcs version) libstdc++2.9-dev - The GNU stdc++ library (development files) This one is recommended egcs-docs - Documentation for the egcs compilers (egcc, gobjc, g++). You don't need egcc - The GNU (egcs) C compiler. and libg++2.8.2 - The GNU C++ extension library - runtime version. libg++2.8.2-dev - The GNU C++ extension library - development files. (except for legacy code). HTH, Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before.
Re: mutt error
On Sat, Sep 05, 1998 at 10:54:54PM +1200, Andrew wrote: when I try to run mutt I get: Need to be running setgid 0 to lock mailbox! - ensure the mutt binary has the proper permissions: -rwxr-sr-x and ownership: user root, group mail - ensure /var/spool/mail has the proper permissions: drwxrwsr-t and ownership: user root, group mail. HTH, Ray -- ART A friend of mine in Tulsa, Okla., when I was about eleven years old. I'd be interested to hear from him. There are so many pseudos around taking his name in vain. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: window sizing
On Mon, Sep 07, 1998 at 11:36:35AM -0500, Kathy Miles wrote: Hi, hopeing someone can help me. I'm adjusting to using debian linux and still finding things a challenge. I'm running X and have been using various windows managers like fvwm95, icewm, and window maker. The problem is my display is 640 x 480 (due to visual impairment on my part) Maybe I'm missing something, but wouldn't a larger resolution with matching fonts be more suitable for you? and I can't get windows to come up the right size when I start X. I'm including the relevant part of my ~/.Xresources file, which illustrates how to set the default fonts for xterm and rxvt. Another resource you might find useful is the Linux Access HOWTO's section for the visually impaired: http://sunsite.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/Access-HOWTO-3.html . Hope this helps, Ray !! ! ! ~/.Xresources - X resource preferences. ! ! For information about X resources and associated commands, see xrdb(1x), ! editres(1x), appres(1x), listres(1x). ! !! ! This file uses xrdb's capability of using cpp as a preprocesor. ! For documentation on cpp, see cpp(1) and the cpp info entry. ! xrdb defines several preprocessor symbols, including: ! HEIGHT=num ! the height of the root window in pixels. ! WIDTH=num ! the width of the root window in pixels. ! Use `xrdb -symbols' to view the symbols and their values. ! Abbreviations to shorten tests on display size #if (WIDTH = 1280 ) (HEIGHT = 1024) # define W_1280 #elif (WIDTH = 1152 ) (HEIGHT = 864) # define W_1152 #elif (WIDTH = 1024 ) (HEIGHT = 768) # define W_1024 #elif (WIDTH = 800) (HEIGHT = 600) # define W_800 #endif !! ! ! Fixed width fonts ! ! Useful programs for determining font preferences: ! - xlsfonts(1x) ! - list X fonts matching a pattern (e.g. xlsfonts -fn '*-iso8859-1' ). ! - `-ll' includes information on whether a font is proportional or not ! (`monospaced', `character cell'). ! - xfd(1x) - show all glyphs in a font. ! - xfontsel(1x) - point and click selection of font names. . ! (e.g. xfontsel -noscaled -pattern '*-iso8859-1' ) ! ! Constraints: ! - Fixed width (essential for terminal emulators) ! - ISO 8859-1 encoding and full ISO 8859-1 character set ! - Slightly on the big side (I don't like to have many windows on my display, ! and often use screen(1) to keep things managable). ! - The `huge' font should be as big as possible within the screen size. ! - FONT_UNREADABLE FONT_TINY FONT_SMALL FONT_NORMAL FONT_LARGISH !FONT_LARGE FONT_HUGE !! ! I don't see the need for a separate Medium font - I use default for a ! medium (normal) sized font. XTerm*fontMenu*font4*Label: Largish #ifdef W_1152 # define FONT_NORMAL -*-fixed-bold-r-*-*-15-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1 # define FONT_LARGISH -misc-fixed-*-*-*-*-20-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1 # define FONT_LARGE -sony-fixed-*-*-*-*-24-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1 # define FONT_HUGE -bh-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-*-*-24-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1 # define FONT_SMALL -misc-fixed-*-r-*-*-13-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1 # define FONT_TINY -bh-lucidatypewriter-*-r-*-*-8-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1 #endif #ifdef W_1024 # define FONT_NORMAL -misc-fixed-*-*-*-*-13-*-*-*-c-*-iso8859-1 # define FONT_LARGISH -misc-fixed-*-*-*-*-15-*-*-*-c-*-iso8859-1 # define FONT_LARGE -bitstream-terminal-medium-*-*-*-18-*-*-*-c-*-iso8859-1 # define FONT_HUGE -sony-fixed-medium-*-*-*-24-*-*-*-c-*-iso8859-1 # define FONT_SMALL -bh-lucidatypewriter-*-r-*-*-10-*-*-*-m-*-iso8859-1 # define FONT_TINY -*-fixed-*-r-*-*-7-*-*-*-c-*-iso8859-1 #endif #if !defined(FONT_NORMAL) || defined(W_800) ! Default fonts # define FONT_NORMAL -misc-fixed-medium-r-*-*-13-*-*-*-*-70-iso8859-1 # define FONT_LARGISH -misc-fixed-medium-r-*-*-13-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1 # define FONT_LARGE -misc-fixed-medium-r-*-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1 # define FONT_HUGE -misc-fixed-medium-r-*-*-15-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1 # define FONT_SMALL -bh-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-*-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1 # define FONT_TINY -misc-fixed-medium-r-*--7-*-*-*-*-50-iso8859-1 #endif ! default fonts #if !defined(FONT_UNREADABLE) # define FONT_UNREADABLE nil2 #endif !! ! ! Fonts for terminal emulators ! !! XTerm*VT100*font: FONT_NORMAL XTerm*VT100*font1: FONT_UNREADABLE XTerm*VT100*font2: FONT_TINY XTerm*VT100*font3: FONT_SMALL XTerm*VT100*font4: FONT_LARGISH XTerm*VT100*font5: FONT_LARGE XTerm*VT100*font6: FONT_HUGE ! rxvt takes over fonts from XTerm, but is has fewer font slots ! (normal and 1..4); we override the XTerm font settings by skipping ! FONT_UNREADABLE and FONT_LARGISH Rxvt*font:
Re: HELP newbie find specific shared libraries
On Mon, Sep 07, 1998 at 10:16:00AM -0700, Albert Hurd wrote: Could anyone tell me where to find the following shared libraries (not just site location, but specific tar files). I need them to hopefully get Communicator 4.06-4.5 working (they are suggested in release notes) Any particular reason why you're not simply using the netscape4 installer package from contrib/web? It has all the proper dependencies: Depends: motifnls, ldso (= 1.9.7-0), libc5 (= 5.4.0-0), libc6, libg++27 (= 2.7.2.1-1), xlib6 (= 3.3-0), xpm4.7 (= 3.4j-0) libXm.so.1.2.4 That's Motif; it's commercial software. If you don't have Motif, get the statically linked version of netscape. HTH, Ray -- UNFAIR Term applied to advantages enjoyed by other people which we tried to cheat them out of and didn't manage. See also DISHONESTY, SNEAKY, UNDERHAND and JUST LUCKY I GUESS. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: Debian and Reh Hat Questions
On Fri, Sep 04, 1998 at 06:39:19AM -0700, Dinesh Nadarajah wrote: Couple of questions concerning Debian Linux: 1. How can I install .deb packages in RehHat? The same way you install RPMs in Debian: using Alien (http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/). 2. Can PPP be initiated by a user rather than by the root? Yes. If the user is part of the group which owns the dial out devices (with Debian, that's group dialout). 3. X server does not recognize SVGA server and boot into VGA 8 bit mode. Can I remove VGA mode completely off of the XF86Config file? You can set the default X server in /etc/X11/Xserver . HTH, Ray -- UNFAIR Term applied to advantages enjoyed by other people which we tried to cheat them out of and didn't manage. See also DISHONESTY, SNEAKY, UNDERHAND and JUST LUCKY I GUESS. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: Debian and Reh Hat Questions
On Fri, Sep 04, 1998 at 09:14:19AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about Re: Debian and Reh Hat Questions | Yes. If the user is part of the group which owns the dial out devices | (with Debian, that's group dialout). Actually it is the dip group. All the ppp and chatscript config and scripts need to be owned root.dip and pppd needs to be suid root(this is the default I think). The serial devices are group dialout: penguin ray 16:17 /dev ./MAKEDEV -n ttyS1 crw-rw 1 root dialout4, 65 for ttyS1 as documented in /usr/doc/makedev/README.Debian.gz; I'm not sure what group dip is for. Ray -- POPULATION EXPLOSION Unique in human experience, an event which happened yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: EGCS 1.1 is out!
On Fri, Sep 04, 1998 at 05:07:51PM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote: Please can someone explain to me the difference between EGCS compilers and non-EGCS ones? See the README included in the various egcs packages (e.g. g++), and question 1 of the egcs FAQ at http://egcs.cygnus.com/faq.html . HTH, Ray -- Obsig: developing a new sig
Re: EGCS 1.1 is out!
On Thu, Sep 03, 1998 at 11:55:49AM -0400, Ossama Othman wrote: Any idea when EGCS 1.1 will be packaged? It is packaged. Currently it's available only on my harddisk. I'll upload it tomorrow morning CET. HTH, Ray -- ART A friend of mine in Tulsa, Okla., when I was about eleven years old. I'd be interested to hear from him. There are so many pseudos around taking his name in vain. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: list archive?
On Wed, Sep 02, 1998 at 02:06:08PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is debian-user archived somewhere publically accessible? Yes. http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/ HTH, Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before.
Re: X11 remains black (fwd)
On Tue, Sep 01, 1998 at 03:49:32PM +0200, Jens Ritter forwarded: [X fails with gcc 2.8.1 compiled 2.0.x kernel] Linux 2.0.x kernels rely on knowledge of the compiler's method optimisation that is only valid for gcc 2.7.x, so you should use only a 2.7.x version to compile them; this is why Debian 2.0 ships with gcc 2.7.2.3 as the default compiler for C code. If you need a newer gcc version for compiling other code, use the egcc package. HTH, Ray -- PATRIOTISM A great British writer once said that if he had to choose between betraying his country and betraying a friend he hoped he would have the decency to betray his country. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: how does libc5-compat work?
On Tue, Sep 01, 1998 at 05:38:42PM +0200, Thomas Gebhardt wrote: obviously it is still possible to run (most) of the old libc5 binaries in hamm. Somehow ld knows when it is necessary to use the libs from the ld.so, not ld. libc5-compat directory. How does this mechanism work? ELF binaries contain a segment that specifies what libraries they were linked against (objdump --all-headers thebinary), which ld.so uses in determining which library to load the binary against. I have a program that segfaults; obviously it tries to use both libc5 *and* libc6: That means ld.so only finds a libc6 version of a library for which the binary needs a libc5 one. $ ldd secude /lib/nfslock.so.0 = /lib/nfslock.so.0 (0x4000c000) libsecude.so = /tmp/sec518c-linux/libsecude.so (0x4000e000) libgdbm.so.1 = /usr/lib/libgdbm.so.1 (0x4016a000) libdl.so.1 = /lib/libdl.so.1 (0x4017) libc.so.5 = /lib/libc.so.5 (0x40173000) libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40231000) ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x402d6000) How can I manage to get it working? Do objdump --all-headers secude and install the libc5 versions of all the libraries it needs. HTH, Ray -- Obsig: developing a new sig
Re: Compose-key and X11-geometry issues.
On Sat, Aug 29, 1998 at 09:15:35PM +0200, Johann Spies wrote: 1. Since upgrading to Debian 2.0 my compose key (Control-. on a normal screen and Control-Scroll-lock in X11) does not work anymore. In X11 I had to run xkeycaps to restore it, but I do not know how to restore it in for normal use. My .inputrc looks like this: Is ctrl-period defined as the compose key (see dumpkeys)? 2. It took me a long time to customize settings for xterm, pine and emacs for X11 using Debian 1.3.1. Now those settings have no effect under Debian 2.0. I do not know how to get that right again. I hope that using Linux does not mean that I have to all the configuration over again every time I do an upgrade. My .xsession and .Xdefaults - files are apparently ignored by X. mv .Xdefaults .Xresources and make sure you have allow-user-resources and allow-user-xsession in /etc/X11/config . HTH, Ray -- PATRIOTISM A great British writer once said that if he had to choose between betraying his country and betraying a friend he hoped he would have the decency to betray his country. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: Non us-ascii characters in ls
On Fri, Aug 28, 1998 at 07:18:16AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: am currently helping a friend install 2.0 and we came across something I've noted before but bypassed (mainly work in english anyway), ls will list non-us-ascii characters as '?' instead of the proper character like å, ä, or ö (the characters specific to swedish). You probably need to set up the locale information correctly, so that ls and others know what characters can be displayed. Try setting the LC_CTYPE environment variable to en_US.ISO-8859-1 . HTH, Ray -- ART A friend of mine in Tulsa, Okla., when I was about eleven years old. I'd be interested to hear from him. There are so many pseudos around taking his name in vain. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: Can somebody help met to get pygres working on Debian 2.0?
On Wed, Aug 26, 1998 at 12:54:56PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: - ldd /usr/lib/python1.5/lib-dynload/pgmodule.so statically linked Huh? Since when are dynamic libraries statically linked? Somehting's wrong in this place. Wayne suggested that I change the line beginning with pgmodule.so to pgmodule.so:pgmodule.o $(GCC) -shared -o pgmodule.so pgmodule.o -lpq ^ This *must* be *one* tabulator This link line really should have a -lc added to give the dynamic loader more clues against which libc to load. Adding this will also make the ldd work. Ray -- POPULATION EXPLOSION Unique in human experience, an event which happened yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: Problem! I can't install last packages
On Wed, Aug 26, 1998 at 01:15:31PM +0200, Valentín Ruano Rubio wrote: I have a Debian distribution ( 1.3.? ) which works with libc5 package. I can't install libc6 and the last debian packages (postgresql,jdk ...) which work with this library. I didn't found version for libc5 for them on your web (www.es.debian.org). Could You tell me where this versions are available or how I can generate them? The upgrade howto (http://www.debian.org/2.0/HOWTO.upgrade) explains how you can safely upgrade from a 1.3.x system to 2.0 . Both the automatic methods it describes will upgrade libc5 to a suitable version for you. HTH, Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before.
Re: What is a magic number?
On Wed, Aug 26, 1998 at 07:54:24PM +0800, htyj wrote:
I've seen the term magic number in many documents, I wonder what it is,
and how to get it(calculate it?)? TIA.
Courtesy of dict:
: magic number /n./ [Unix/C] 1. In source code, some
: non-obvious constant whose value is significant to the operation of a
: program and that is inserted inconspicuously in-line ({hardcoded}),
: rather than expanded in by a symbol set by a commented `#define'.
: Magic numbers in this sense are bad style. 2. A number that encodes
: critical information used in an algorithm in some opaque way. The
: classic examples of these are the numbers used in hash or CRC
: functions, or the coefficients in a linear congruential generator for
: pseudo-random numbers. This sense actually predates and was ancestral
: to the more commonsense 1. 3. Special data located at the beginning
: of a binary data file to indicate its type to a utility. Under Unix,
: the system and various applications programs (especially the linker)
: distinguish between types of executable file by looking for a magic
: number. Once upon a time, these magic numbers were PDP-11 branch
: instructions that skipped over header data to the start of executable
: code; 0407, for example, was octal for `branch 16 bytes relative'.
: Many other kinds of files now have magic numbers somewhere; some magic
: numbers are, in fact, strings, like the `!arch' at the beginning of
: a Unix archive file or the `%!' leading PostScript files. Nowadays
: only a {wizard} knows the spells to create magic numbers. How do you
: choose a fresh magic number of your own? Simple -- you pick one at
: random. See? It's magic!
:
: *The* magic number, on the other hand, is 7+/-2. See The magical
: number seven, plus or minus two: some limits on our capacity for
: processing information by George Miller, in the Psychological
: Review 63:81-97 (1956). This classic paper established the number of
: distinct items (such as numeric digits) that humans can hold in
: short-term memory. Among other things, this strongly influenced the
: interface design of the phone system.
Sense #3 is likely to be the one you're looking for. See also file(1) and
magic(5).
HTH,
Ray
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Re: debian vs others
On Wed, Aug 26, 1998 at 09:00:17AM -0500, Rick Knebel wrote: Also do you think debian will continued to be developed? Yes. The current developer count is 405. I read somewhere that the head of the progect quite because he thought the progress was not fast enough. That's not a very accurate picture of what happened. He got frustrated, but not by Debian's development speed. I remember him once saying about Debian: I couldn't kill it if I wanted to, and that's what happened. He left some months after the end of his term as project leader, and the project continued under new leadership. Ray -- J.H.M. Dassen | RUMOUR Believe all you hear. Your world may [EMAIL PROTECTED] | not be a better one than the one the blocks | live in but it'll be a sight more vivid. | - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: No C++? sftp does not complete configure script
On Sun, Aug 23, 1998 at 07:24:19PM -0700, George Bonser wrote: On Sun, 23 Aug 1998, Chuck Peters wrote: I tried compiling sftp and the configure script did not finish. I thought this was there as I have the following C++ libaries ii libg++272.7.2.1-14.4 The GNU C++ libraries (ELF version). ii libg++272 2.7.2.8-0.1The GNU C++ libraries (libc6 version). What am I missing? you need g++272 and probably libg++272-dev g++272 should only be used in cases of source that for some reason doesn't compile with egcs g++; I've seen no indication that sftp falls in that category. The proper C++ setup is: `g++', `libstdc++2.8-dev', `libstdc++2.8' and, if your code relies on obsolete GNU extensions, `libg++2.8-dev' and `libg++2.8'. Ray -- UNFAIR Term applied to advantages enjoyed by other people which we tried to cheat them out of and didn't manage. See also DISHONESTY, SNEAKY, UNDERHAND and JUST LUCKY I GUESS. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: Netscape libXpm.so.4
On Mon, Aug 24, 1998 at 02:59:14PM +0200, Kris Van Hulle wrote: I installed libc5 - still not working. Here some more information: You also need libc5 versions of the libraries netscape wants. If you had used the appropriate `netscape[34]' installer package from contrib, this would have been taken care of. The error is: /usr/local/netscape/netscape: can't load library 'libXpm.so.4' libXpm.so.4 = not found Install the `xpm4' package. libg++.so.27 = not found libstdc++.so.27 = not found Install `libg++27'. And locate libXpm.so.4 gives me: /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4 /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4.10 That's the libc6 version of libXpm. The other not found entries: $ locate libg++.so.27 /usr/lib/libg++.so.272 $ locate libstdc++.so.27 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.272 These are the libc6 versions of libg++/libstdc++. HTH, Ray -- POPULATION EXPLOSION Unique in human experience, an event which happened yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: Compiling
On Sun, Aug 23, 1998 at 11:39:47PM +1000, Z.P. Dylejko wrote: At 10:11 23/08/98 +0200, you wrote: *-Z.P. Dylejko [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Hmmm.. broken mail headers?] configure:1305: checking whether the C++ compiler (g++ -s) works configure:1319: g++ -o conftest -s conftest.C 15 /usr/bin/ld: cannot open -lstdc++: No such file or directory Apperantly, you don't have libstdc++2.8dev installed; it is required to compile normal C++ code. HTH, Ray -- UNFAIR Term applied to advantages enjoyed by other people which we tried to cheat them out of and didn't manage. See also DISHONESTY, SNEAKY, UNDERHAND and JUST LUCKY I GUESS. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: eight_bit console
Hi Linus, On Fri, Aug 21, 1998 at 01:58:58AM +0200, Linus Nilsson wrote: I'm using Debain Linux and do most of my work in console mode. I use us keymap and i wonder what i have to do to be able to write eight_bit characters. In X alt is bound to meta and that works just fine, but in console-mode holding in alt while writing seems to have no effect whatsover. In the console you can use digraphs ( specialkeykey1key2 results in some8bitchar, e.g. ctrl-. a ' results in á. This is documented in the keyboard and console HOWTO (http://sunsite.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/Keyboard-and-Console-HOWTO.html) and the documentation of the kbd package (/usr/doc/kbd/*). HTH, Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before.
Re: Libforms?
On Tue, Aug 18, 1998 at 07:27:57PM -0700, phillip Neumann wrote: What means : ./DAP: can't load library 'libforms.so.0.88' ?? It means ./DAP is linked against the library libforms.so.0.88 which cannot be found by the dynamic loader. Install the libforms0.88 package from the non-free section of the archives and try again. HTH, Ray -- LEADERSHIP A form of self-preservation exhibited by people with auto- destructive imaginations in order to ensure that when it comes to the crunch it'll be someone else's bones which go crack and not their own. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: wrong time!
On Tue, Aug 18, 1998 at 03:18:00PM +0800, jc wrote: I find that my system clock in debian is 8 hours more than that in my win98. I know that my time zone should be +08:00. How can I correct this?? - Make sure /etc/timezone is set correctly (Asia/Hong_Kong) - Edit /etc/default/rcS and set GMT to if your system clock runs in local time rather than GMT. HTH, Ray -- Obsig: developing a new sig
Re: Vfat Long file names
On Thu, Aug 13, 1998 at 03:31:37AM -0500, Cristov Russell wrote: I have edited /etc/fstab and mounted my Win95 partitions as vfat. When I boot into Linux I get a message saying: Unable to load NLS charset cp437... Unable to load NLS charset ISO8859... I can view files in these partitions so I know that the partitions are mounted but I'm unsure what the error means. With recent kernel versions, proper VFAT support requires that you have the right National Language Support code/modules available; they allow Linux to properly deal with filenames containing non-ascii characters. (By e.g. translating from DOS codepage 850 to ISO 8859-1 (latin 1)). My other question is about long file names. How does Linux handle long file names? When I try to view a file with spaces (i.e. My Resume.txt) Linux seems to treat these as seperate files. How do I correctly specify a valid long file name? Put quotes around it, or use backslashes to quote, e.g.: cat '/win/File name with spaces in it' vim /win/My\ Documents/foo HTH, Ray -- PATRIOTISM A great British writer once said that if he had to choose between betraying his country and betraying a friend he hoped he would have the decency to betray his country. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: Compiler Issues
On Tue, Aug 11, 1998 at 11:52:05AM +0200, Daniel Mashao wrote:
I know we are going thru' compiler changes etc. I am trying to install any
C++ compiler whether egcs or gcc. I installed all relevant files as far as
I know and as far as the dpkg did not complain about missing packages. But
when I compile a .cc file it gives the following output:
com5 % gcc ff.cc
/usr/doc/{gcc,g++}/README tells you to use g++ or c++, not gcc to
compile C++ programs.
HTH,
Ray
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yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow.
- The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: GCC lib troubles after HAMM upgrade
On Sun, Aug 09, 1998 at 10:14:17PM -0700, Doug Thistlethwaite wrote: P.S: Just for future information... Where would one find out that this was moved into its own library? I obviously didn't look in the right place. /usr/doc/libc6/FAQ.gz HTH, Ray -- POPULATION EXPLOSION Unique in human experience, an event which happened yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: No Backspace in X
On Fri, Aug 07, 1998 at 10:40:22PM -0500, Matthew Myers wrote: [backspace problem in X] Here is my setup: Debian 1.3.1 Please consider upgrading to Debian 2.0 . In 2.0, consistent handling of backspace and delete under X has been implemented. HTH, Ray -- PATRIOTISM A great British writer once said that if he had to choose between betraying his country and betraying a friend he hoped he would have the decency to betray his country. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: gcc and egcs
On Sat, Aug 08, 1998 at 05:58:27PM -0230, Greg Starkes wrote:
On Sat, 8 Aug 1998, Liran Zvibel wrote:
The problem is that gcc is an ANSI C compiler, and you wanted to compile
a C++ program. I think that If you have just changed gcc to g++ ( the
GNU C++ compiler) everything would have worked.
I had no problem compiling this under bo...
The problem seems to be with xmkmf finding the wrong things...
No. xmkmf is correct. If it had set CXX=gcc it would have been wrong. In
hamm, the compiler setup is somewhat more complex than in bo. Please read
the fine documentation; in this case /usr/doc/{gcc,g++}/README .
HTH,
Ray
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have the decency to betray his country.
- The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: No Backspace in X
On Sun, Aug 09, 1998 at 10:19:22PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: I just installed Debian 2.0 on my Toshiba notebook on Friday, and backspace doesn't work in xterm! Perhaps it is just the keyboard on the thing [I chose standard 102 key keyboard in the setup]; I have to use C-h though. Suggestions? Please check that the X keyboard extension is enabled; the backspace/delete fix is only implemented when XKB is enabled. Ray -- POPULATION EXPLOSION Unique in human experience, an event which happened yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: Cyryllic fonts
On Fri, Aug 07, 1998 at 08:05:45AM +, Akop Pogosian wrote:
If someone know how to set up Cyrillic fonts on Linux, please let me know
how or at least point me to the right place on the internet. All I want is
to make Netscape Navigator and console IRC clients understand various
russian fonts.
There's a Cyrillic-HOWTO included in the doc-linux-{text,html} packages
which you might want to check out.
For X, you'll need the xfntcyr package which contains suitable fonts.
HTH,
Ray
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Re: where are pine and tin? (hamm)
On Fri, Aug 07, 1998 at 10:12:34AM +0200, Thomas Adams wrote: I use Debian 2.0 and am missing pine and tin. I ftped the binary-i386 image soonafter it was released and those programs aren't on it. After having my network stuff up and running I checked the contrib area on debian ftp servers but didn'tfind them there either. Why is that? Don't those two programs fit into Debian's idea of free software or what? IIRC, Pine's licensing terms impose restrictions or disallow the redistribution of modified binaries. There's a pin396-src package you can use to build your own binaries. I don't know why tin isn't in hamm. There's a tin package in slink you can use though. HTH, Ray -- Obsig: developing a new sig -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: cpp
On Thu, Aug 06, 1998 at 01:38:19AM -0700, Luiken, Arijan wrote: i have a question, when i installed debian (2.0) and i want to install x windows (or something else with dselect) i get the message that the program has dependency problems with cpp. anybody any idea's ? Not really, because you don't provide enough information. What message do you get precisely? Which X packages complain? etc. My best guess would be that you don't have the cpp package from main/binary*/interpreters installed. Ray -- Tevens ben ik van mening dat Nederland overdekt dient te worden. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: libc6
On Thu, Aug 06, 1998 at 02:32:55AM -0700, Bryon Bridges wrote: I am trying to install Netscape Navigator on my system and it says it requires a file called libc6. Yet when I go to dpkg this file, it says it conflicts with libc5! I can't simply remove libc5 can I? Why would these two files be conflicting anyway? Your help is much appreciated. http://www.debian.org/2.0/HOWTO.upgrade HTH, Ray -- Obsig: developing a new sig -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: PLEASE - I really need help
On Fri, Jul 31, 1998 at 12:08:20PM +0100, Mario Filipe wrote: 12:02:43 mjnf neptuno# ldd /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 libX11.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libX11.so.6 (0x4001) The dynamic loader tries to load it against a libc5 library, libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x400ae000) but it is a libc 6 library. Did you install the xlib6g package, which contains the libc6 X libraries? Ray -- Obsig: developing a new sig -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Where can I find...
On Fri, Jul 31, 1998 at 04:05:24PM +0100, Mario Filipe wrote: Well what package contains : Xm/Xm.h Xm/Text.h Xm/List.h Xm/ToggleB.h lesstifg-dev . HTH, Ray -- Tevens ben ik van mening dat Nederland overdekt dient te worden. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Check deb-Paket?
On Thu, Jul 23, 1998 at 11:31:35AM +0200, Michael Taeschner wrote: Wie ueberpruefe ich auf der Kommandozeile die Integritaet von .deb-Paketen? Die man-pages (uralt) sagen, dass es keine Checksumme gaebe... That is correct: the packages themselves do not contain checksums. Dann frage ich mich aber, wie dselect nach ftp die heruntergeladenen Pakete prueft bzw. wie Maintainer ihren ftp-Mirror checken? Dselect uses the Packages(.gz) files that are found on the FTP mirrors; these files do contain MD5 checksums for the .deb files. So you can check .deb files manually by comparing the output of md5sum foo.deb to the md5sum in the Packages file. HTH, Ray -- ART A friend of mine in Tulsa, Okla., when I was about eleven years old. I'd be interested to hear from him. There are so many pseudos around taking his name in vain. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Debian Std C++?
On Thu, Jul 23, 1998 at 09:35:51AM -0400, SEGV wrote: What is the state of Standard C++ (as adopted by ISO/ANSI) on GNU/Linux? Debian 2.0 will ship with the egcs C++ compiler (http://egcs.cygnus.com/) version 1.0.3 . For instance, browsing my system I see that c++ is gcc version 2.7.2.3. It warns that namespaces are mostly broken. The standard library is not enclosed in the namespace std, and iostream.h looks old and is not iostream. egcs 1.0.3 still does not understand namespaces fully yet, but its C++ support is a big improvement over 2.7.2.3's . How long before I can type in every example from Stroustrup's latest book, and have it compile on Debian GNU/Linux? Impossible to say. Join egcs development if you want it to be sooner rather than later. HTH, Ray -- Obsig: developing a new sig -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Can setup a signature on elm
On Wed, Jul 22, 1998 at 07:56:02AM -0400, Keith wrote: I was wondering if there is a way to set up a .signature file or something similar to that which PINE using in order to put a signature at the bottom of every message I send using elm. Yes. I haven't used elm in quite a while, but something like localsignature = ~/.signature remotesignature = ~/.signature in you ~/.elm/elmrc should do the trick. Also I was wondering if I can have emacs be the program that I use to type my letters in elm, instead of vi. editor = emacs should work. HTH, Ray -- POPULATION EXPLOSION Unique in human experience, an event which happened yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: cannot compile qt-1.33 in hamm
On Sat, Jul 18, 1998 at 08:49:53PM +0800, Cheng Dien Yiu wrote: I have just installl hamm in a new computer . However, when I try to compile qt-1.33, I ran intot errors: 1) Why are you compiling it yourself? There's packages of qt in non-free. 2) Read the fine documentation about this in /usr/doc/gcc/README . HTH, Ray -- J.H.M. Dassen | RUMOUR Believe all you hear. Your world may [EMAIL PROTECTED] | not be a better one than the one the blocks | live in but it'll be a sight more vivid. | - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: X fonts
On Fri, Jul 17, 1998 at 09:49:39AM +1000, Chris wrote: [finding usable fonts for terminals in X] Sorry, I don't have time to write out a nice answer; here's a dump of my notes: !! ! ! Fixed width fonts ! ! Useful programs for determining font preferences: ! - xlsfonts(1x) ! - list X fonts matching a pattern (e.g. xlsfonts -fn '*-iso8859-1' ). ! - `-ll' includes information on whether a font is proportional or not ! (`monospaced', `character cell'). ! - xfd(1x) - show all glyphs in a font. ! - xfontsel(1x) - point and click selection of font names. . ! (e.g. xfontsel -noscaled -pattern '*-iso8859-1' ) ! HTH, Ray -- LEADERSHIP A form of self-preservation exhibited by people with auto- destructive imaginations in order to ensure that when it comes to the crunch it'll be someone else's bones which go crack and not their own. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: hamm problem: mutt-i
On Wed, Jul 15, 1998 at 05:25:23PM -0400, Lee Bradshaw wrote: [mutt-i_0.93i-1 key problem] On Thu, Jul 16, 1998 at 07:57:37AM +0200, Martin Schulze answered: This has been reported as a bug yesterday. Seems somehow a keybinding got lost. Actually it turned out to be a change in the Muttrc syntax for some keybindings. I'm currently away from my Debian machine; Ruud de Rooij has been kind enough to fix this problem in a non-maintainer upload (0.93i-1.1) yesterday. Ray -- POPULATION EXPLOSION Unique in human experience, an event which happened yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: possible bugs
On Thu, Jul 16, 1998 at 08:21:52AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Iam using Debian Linux 1.3.1r6: 1.When i ping from Win95 to Debian: ping -l 65508 debian_machine i get on the console message: Oversized packet received from 193.59.184.153 but system looks OK. Its happen when packet size is =65508 bytes This is a feature. Some ping programs (like the Win95) allow you to create packets that are larger than allowed for in the relevant standard. These packets could be used to crash some systems, including older Linux kernels. Newer kernel versions, like the ones used in Debian 1.3.1r6, were fixed. As oversized ping packets could be used as an attack, the kernel reports them. HTH, Ray -- POPULATION EXPLOSION Unique in human experience, an event which happened yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: hamm problem: mutt-i
On Thu, Jul 16, 1998 at 09:13:50AM -0400, Lee Bradshaw wrote: For future reference, how would I access the non-maintainer upload? I see 0.93i-1 on the non-us ftp sites, and I can't find an Incoming directory/mirror that has 0.93i-1.1. ftp://non-US.debian.org/debian-non-US/Incoming . HTH, Ray -- LEADERSHIP A form of self-preservation exhibited by people with auto- destructive imaginations in order to ensure that when it comes to the crunch it'll be someone else's bones which go crack and not their own. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: security? smail in frozen is an open relay
On Tue, Jul 14, 1998 at 09:19:21PM -0400, Andrew Lewycky wrote: (My apologies if this already known, and also for not submitting a proper bug report, since I don't know how, and I don't want to risk this being overlooked.) I just submitted this as a bug report; you should receive a Cc of it. See http://www.debian.org/Bugs for details on how to submit bug reports. Thanks, Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: xmodmap proper
On Tue, Jul 14, 1998 at 12:12:28PM +0100, K.Y.Lo wrote: I am novice linux. Backspace key doesnt working in X-windows proper This is an issue that is being addressed in Debian 2.0, which is currrently in beta test. If you are not using that version, you might want to upgrade to it. If you are using that version, make sure you have the X keyboard extension enabled. Hope this helps, Ray -- LEADERSHIP A form of self-preservation exhibited by people with auto- destructive imaginations in order to ensure that when it comes to the crunch it'll be someone else's bones which go crack and not their own. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: *-src packages: sudo (what programs?)
On Sat, Jul 11, 1998 at 03:19:25PM -0400, Paul Miller wrote: What programs are needed by the *-src packages for sudo to give access to? If I understand you correctly, you want to compile source packages using sudo, and have the sudo rights restricted to only those programs that the source packages need? That approach doesn't work: source packages can and do call a very large number of binaries. If you're concerned about security when building source packages, you should not use sudo or super, but you should install fakeroot and build -rfakeroot . Fakeroot requires no priviledges a user doesn't have already, so it's safe. The only reason source packages need to (think they) have root access, is to set ownership and permissions on files that have been built. HTH, Ray -- LEADERSHIP A form of self-preservation exhibited by people with auto- destructive imaginations in order to ensure that when it comes to the crunch it'll be someone else's bones which go crack and not their own. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Mail-Followup header
On Sun, Jul 12, 1998 at 01:20:57AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: What is the purpose of the Mail-Followup-To header? See ftp://koobera.math.uic.edu/www/proto/replyto.html It appears to force the group reply function in mutt to reply to the list only Not precisely, but it can be used by senders to indicate that they are on the list, and do not appreciate a separate Cc. HTH, Ray -- POPULATION EXPLOSION Unique in human experience, an event which happened yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: xforms replacement
On Wed, Jul 08, 1998 at 05:07:03PM -0700, The Gecko wrote: What is a Free graphics/windowing/x library out there? Check out http://www.theoffice.net/guitool ; it lists numerous GUI libraries and includes licensing information. HTH, Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Irritating ^H and double characters in documentation
On Thu, Jul 09, 1998 at 03:01:43PM +0200, Johann Spies wrote: Several documentation files on the 1.3.1 distribution contains text like this from the Afterstep FAQ: --- 11.. GGeenneerraalliinnffoorrmmaattiioonn This is *roff-style bold, which several programs (e.g. less, mutt) understand. Is there a quick way to correct this? You can filter them through col -b. HTH, Ray -- UNFAIR Term applied to advantages enjoyed by other people which we tried to cheat them out of and didn't manage. See also DISHONESTY, SNEAKY, UNDERHAND and JUST LUCKY I GUESS. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Pine 4.00 termcap
On Thu, Jul 09, 1998 at 09:13:29AM -0500, Tim Buller wrote: I'm trying to compile Pine 4.00 on a hamm/i386 system, and it wants to link in libtermcap.a, which is not a part of the termcap-compat package. libtermcap is obsolete for about three years now. libncurses should be used instead (replace -ltermcap by -lncurses). HTH, Ray -- UNFAIR Term applied to advantages enjoyed by other people which we tried to cheat them out of and didn't manage. See also DISHONESTY, SNEAKY, UNDERHAND and JUST LUCKY I GUESS. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: How to downgrade?!?
On Mon, Jul 06, 1998 at 12:27:38PM -0500, Ivan Trogranci wrote: I tried to upgrade to HAMM, but it didn't work and now gcc can't find any libraries (that's the only problem I noticed, but there may be others...) As part of the upgrade to libc6, all old libc5 development packages should be removed; if you want to compile libc6 binaries, you need to install the libc6 development packages (libc6-dev, libstdc++2.8-dev, librx1g-dev etc.) How do I go back to 1.3 as safely as possible?!? I don't think anybody has tried that. HTH, Ray -- POPULATION EXPLOSION Unique in human experience, an event which happened yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Where are the Release Notes of Kernel?
On Mon, Jul 06, 1998 at 07:47:41PM +0800, Alex Kwan wrote: How do I know what is the change from the last version (e.g. 2.0.33) to the updated version (e.g. 2.0.34)? The definite way is to read the diff of course. There is no official changelog for the kernel that I'm aware of. You can find changelogs at http://www.linuxhq.com/kpatch20.html and http://www.linuxhq.com/kpatch21.html . HTH, Ray -- POPULATION EXPLOSION Unique in human experience, an event which happened yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: egcs includes
On Wed, Jul 01, 1998 at 10:14:23PM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: On Thu, 2 Jul 1998, Bob Bernstein wrote: There seem to be (at least) four files not installed in the ../include/g++ directory that is produced by egcs that _are_ part of the GNU g++ includes, namely Regex.h Pix.h String.h SLList.h Why is this, and can anyone suggest the most elegant method for making these absent includes available if one is compiling source that needs them? I would gladly be pointed in the direction of any egcs documentation that would help clear up my chronic confusion here. See /usr/doc/g++/README.Debian ; suggestions for improvement are welcome. I think this are old libg++ headers. libg++ is obsolete, don't use it if you can help it. Yes. Basically, just about all the functionality that was in the GNU extensions is now available in the standard C++ (template) library (and thus can be ported to non-GNU systems). libg++ (which nowadays refers to then GNU extensions exclusively) is no longer maintained upstream. There was a rumor about a libg++ dev package for eg++ in hamm but I'm not sure what came of it. I don't spread rumours without a significant amount of truth in them :-) As of egcs 1.0.3-0.2 (8 May), libg++ packages for hamm are available: libg++2.8 and libg++2.8-dev . HTH, Ray -- LEADERSHIP A form of self-preservation exhibited by people with auto- destructive imaginations in order to ensure that when it comes to the crunch it'll be someone else's bones which go crack and not their own. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: [Debian] Running Linux from CD
On Thu, Jul 02, 1998 at 09:44:50AM +0200, Nico De Ranter wrote: is it possible to run Linux completely from CD. Probably yes, if a system has sufficient RAM. One would have to combine some things: - The capability to boot directly from CD; the Debian CDs already do this. Andreas Jellinghaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] is working on the scripts that are used to create the Debian CDs. To a certain extent being able to boot a CD directly is optional; you can boot to Linux on CD using DOS or Windows (see the boot.bat on Debian CDs). - Debian follows the Linux Filesystem Standard (FSSTND) / Filesystem Hierarchy Standard (FHS) (http://www.pathname.com/fhs/), so that the directories that need to be writable are clearly identified (e.g /usr can be on a read-only medium). SuSE uses this to run large portions of their product directly from CD. - Linux supports ramdisks, which can be used to provide a read/write medium for /var and /tmp . The combined solution would be: boot from CD, load a disk image (containing something very similar to the Debian base system) as the root filesystem, and mount /usr from the CD. HTH, Ray -- PATRIOTISM A great British writer once said that if he had to choose between betraying his country and betraying a friend he hoped he would have the decency to betray his country. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: changing/adding/using fonts and ttfonts
Hi Micha, On Thu, Jul 02, 1998 at 04:37:12AM -0700, Micha Feigin wrote: also How do I use fonts. Change the fonts deferent programs use (especially xterm), You can specify this through the X resources mechanism, e.g. by putting XTerm*VT100*font: -misc-fixed-*-*-*-*-13-*-*-*-c-*-iso8859-1 in my ~/.Xdefaults, I get xterm to use that as the default font. and if anyone knows if there is an editor, or/and preferable an atachment to xemacs that i can make work from right to left (I also need to be able to set the font to an hebrew one) I'm not an emacs user. The editor I use (vim) has support for Hebrew (see :help hebrew). I assume that MULE (the ?Muti-Lingual Emacs Extension?) has support for Hebrew; check out the xemacs20-mule package. Also, How do I work in tetex right to left and in an hebrew font. There is a variant of TeX for use with Hebrew, called TeX-XeT; check the web for references to it. If you are interested in extending Debian's internationalisation support, please consider joining the debian-i18n@lists.debian.org mailing list. HTH, Ray -- Obsig: developing a new sig -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: libX11.a?
On Tue, Jun 30, 1998 at 07:01:48PM -0700, Ian Eure wrote: Hey... I'm not seeing libX11.a anywhere... It's needed to compile X client bins, No. It is only needed to compile _static_ X client binaries. Unless you have special needs, the dynamic library (/usr/X11R6/libX11.so) suffices. Simply compile -lX11 . and it is not a part of the xlib6g-dev package... anyone know where it's gone off to? It's always been in a separate package. In the libc6 case, xslibg. HTH, Ray -- J.H.M. Dassen | RUMOUR Believe all you hear. Your world may [EMAIL PROTECTED] | not be a better one than the one the blocks | live in but it'll be a sight more vivid. | - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: NFS/Network locking available?
On Tue, Jun 30, 1998 at 11:21:45AM -0400, Ossama Othman wrote: I am exporting some ext2 filesystems from my Debian box to a Solaris machine. While the export works, the Solaris automounter complains about network locking not being available on my Debian box. Is network locking supported in hamm? If so, how do I enable it? On Tue, Jun 30, 1998 at 06:00:41PM +0200, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: No, hamm use the standard Linux 2.0.3x kernel and those kernels have no support for NFS locking. The 2.1.x kernel does have support for NFS locking but is still under development. To use that, in addition to 2.1.x, you need some utilities. These are packaged as `knfs' and are available in project/experimental. On Tue, Jun 30, 1998 at 12:08:36PM -0400, Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote: Is network locking supported in hamm? If so, how do I enable it? No, not in HAMM. Or in any Linux distribution I know of. Some folks were working on adding support for NFS locking but I've lost the URL. It is described at http://www.linuxhq.com/pgmup21.html . HTH, Ray -- LEADERSHIP A form of self-preservation exhibited by people with auto- destructive imaginations in order to ensure that when it comes to the crunch it'll be someone else's bones which go crack and not their own. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: libX11.a?
On Wed, Jul 01, 1998 at 03:54:52AM -0700, Ian Eure wrote: ld: cannot open -lX11: No such file or directory make[1]: *** [maube] Error 1 Phaktory# ls -l /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Jun 26 07:42 /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so - libX11.so.6.1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Jun 26 07:40 /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 - libX11.so.6.1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 679276 Jun 23 14:48 /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so. Did the last line got cut off? /etc/ld.so.conf says: /etc/ld.so.conf is only relevant for running binaries; not for compiling them. The linker looks for libX11.so (not libX11.so.version); make sure it is a symlink to an existing libX11.so.version . If that doesn't help, add a '-v' to the compiler invocation to see the exact arguments with which ld gets called. HTH, Ray -- POPULATION EXPLOSION Unique in human experience, an event which happened yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: xterm
On Mon, Jun 29, 1998 at 11:41:08AM -0400, Tim Sailer wrote: It seems like somewhere along the way, xterms stopped calling themselves 'xterm' but 'xterm-debian'. Nice. See http://www.debian.org/Bugs/db/22/22668.html The rest of the world has no idea what a 'xterm-debian' is. What do I have to hack to make it back into 'xterm'? Edit 'XTerm*termName:' in /etc/X11/Xresources . HTH, Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which C compiler?
On Sat, Jun 27, 1998 at 11:45:45PM +1000, Alan Eugene Davis wrote: I remember a few months ago, a certain compiler and C++ libraries were recommended. Since then there have been some changes. Confusingly, there sre at least two compilers and more than one C++ library in the hamm distribution. If you bring your system up to date with hamm, the gcc, g++ and egcc packages all contain a README (/usr/doc/package/README) explaining the current setup. Which ones are recommended? For C: gcc (GNU gcc 2.7.2.3 as that's the compiler with which Linux 2.0.x kernels have been developed; there's a problem when a 2.0.x kernel is compiled using egcs gcc). For C++: g++ (from egcs 1.0.3a) with matching libstdc++ (2.8) (and libg++ 2.8 if you need the GNU extensions). HTH, Ray -- PATRIOTISM A great British writer once said that if he had to choose between betraying his country and betraying a friend he hoped he would have the decency to betray his country. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xterm-debian?
On Wed, Jun 24, 1998 at 04:05:57PM -0400, Ossama Othman wrote: What's the difference between a standard xterm and a xterm-debian terminfo/termcap entry? It's easy enough to do a set term=xterm but I really don't want to keep doing that. Why did Debian create their own terminfo/cap entry and why was such a change necessary? http://www.debian.org/Bugs/db/22/22668.html HTH, Ray -- POPULATION EXPLOSION Unique in human experience, an event which happened yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ncurses bug?
On Fri, Jun 19, 1998 at 04:51:07AM +, Pavel Andreew wrote: My program use the Form library from Ncurses. It worked OK with ncurses 1.1.9g-8, but not with 1.1.9g-8.5. I've done the non-maintainer releases 1.1.9g-8.1 through -8.5; I have no idea what caused this. I have archived your problem in the Debian bug-tracking system as bug #23536 (http://www.debian.org/Bugs/db/23/23536.html). If you wish to contribute information that can be useful in fixing this problem, please include a Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] in your message. Thanks, Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: crypt problems
On Thu, Jun 18, 1998 at 02:39:46PM -0500, Michael Merten wrote: Now, after upgrading to hamm (read that: reinitializing the hd and installing hamm from scratch), attempts to compile Circlemud fail with errors about undefined references to crypt function. crypt() isn't in libc, but is in libcrypt, so you have to pass -lcrypt to the link line (gcc -o foo foo.o bar.o -lcrypt). HTH, Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Compiling with gcc
On Tue, Jun 16, 1998 at 12:44:07AM -0700, Mark Yobb wrote: When I went to compile (gcc prog.C) I got the error message: ^^^ Please use the appropriate compiler driver (for bo it doesn't really matter, for hamm it matters a lot). In the case of C++, that's `g++'. (For hamm, `g++' comes in a package of its own, appropriately called `g++'; that package has proper dependencies to ensure you'll install the C++ libraries too) The compiler is not finding the library files. The `g++' compiler driver will add the necessary directories to the include path and will link your program with the standard C++ library. Also note that I did this as the root. There is no reason to compile as root. In general, do not use the root account for stuff you can do as a regular user (reading mail, news, compiling packages, etc.). HTH, Ray -- LEADERSHIP A form of self-preservation exhibited by people with auto- destructive imaginations in order to ensure that when it comes to the crunch it'll be someone else's bones which go crack and not their own. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using Vim with mutt
On Fri, Jun 12, 1998 at 06:39:11PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I have found some Vim settings that wrap messages on screen, they don't seem to insert the CR (or LF/CR, or LF, or whatever it is these days) at the end of the line... Here's part of my muttrc; among other things, it sets the linewidth to 76 (for text you type), allows you to reformat part of the body text to that linewidth (using gq ; preserving quote structure) or the whole body text (,ref, you probably need to have edit_hdrs set in mutt for it). HTH, Ray Mail (mutt) News ,kqs = kill quoted signature map ,kqs G?^ *-- $CRd/^-- $CR goto end-of-buffer, search-backwards for a quoted sigdashes line, ie ^ -- $, and delete unto end-of-paragraph: map ,kqs G?^ *-- $CRd} ,kpq kill SuperCite (aka PowerQuote) quote (replacing it by `') map ,kpq :%s/^ *[a-zA-Z]*/ /C-M reformat body text to current textwidth map ,ref 1G/^$CRV/^-- $CRUpQ1G map ,ref G?^-- $CRUpV1G/^[ \t]*$CRQ1G ,rot= rot13 encode or decode visualised text vmap ,rot :!tr A-Za-z N-ZA-Mn-za-mCR PGP sign (human readable) vmap ,sign :!pgp -fastCR Autocommands :if !exists(home_autocommands_loaded) : let home_autocommands_loaded = 1 : : augroup Messages Mail news :autocmd! :autocmd BufRead mutt*[0-9],snd.*,.letter,.followup,.article,.article[0-9] set textwidth=76 formatoptions=2tcq comments=n:,n::,n:#,n:%,n:\| digraph :autocmd BufRead mutt*[0-9],snd.*,.letter,.followup,.article,.article[0-9] :normal ,kqs - Assume 80-column screen width (which is very common), and allow for our text to be quoted a couple of times without requiring reformatting to fit in 80-columns. - Attempt to reformat quoted text in messages properly. Recognise the most common single character quote indicators `', `:', `#', `%', `|'. The only other reasonably common quote indicator that this doesn't deal with is the stupid ?Supercite? convention `JDOE', which ought to be banned for waste of bandwith. - Enable backspace for digraphs - Kill quoted signature : augroup END :endif -- Tevens ben ik van mening dat Nederland overdekt dient te worden. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can anyone explain why this fails ?
On Fri, May 29, 1998 at 11:39:29AM +0100, Mario Filipe wrote: I've been told that this is because i don't have libz installed or have two of them but: 11:37:41$ dpkg -l | grep zlib ii zlib1 1.0.4-7compression library - runtime That's an old version of the library; it's probably for use with libc5. You probably want zlib1g (currently at 1.1.1-0.1), which is zlib for libc6. HTH, Ray -- Tevens ben ik van mening dat Nederland overdekt dient te worden. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Q: How to get class String from libg++272 with Debian2.0
On Fri, May 29, 1998 at 02:31:29PM +0200, Waldemar ¯urowski wrote: I switched from Debian 1.3 to Debian 2.0 while I was writing a program for my final exam of my study. I used in many places class String, and class which implements regular expression. When I did upgrade, I didn't check if everything had compiled ok. First of all, I had to use EGCS g++, which uses stdc++2.8, as g++ from wasn't anymore in GCC package. It seems there isn't any String class in stdc++-lib. I know that String _is_ in libg++-dev, but stdc++-dev and libg++-dev conflict which each other. I'd like to go back to g++ from GCC but I don't see it anywhere. Please, let me know if that's a bug. It is not. Now, what I am about to do, is just simple downgrade to Debian 1.3, but I don't really want to do that. I've built libg++2.8 and libg++2.8-dev packages for use with egcs's g++. Those packages are currently still in the Incoming directory, so you'll have to fetch them from a mirror of Incoming (see http://www.debian.org/devel/incoming_mirrors.html for a list) for now. Please be aware that libstdc++ contains a string class that conforms to the recently accepted C++ standard, and that libg++ will no longer be supported by the FSF. You might want to consider migrating your code to the libstdc++ string class. (Unfortunately, the C++ standard does not cover a class for regular expression handling). Greetings, Ray -- LEADERSHIP A form of self-preservation exhibited by people with auto- destructive imaginations in order to ensure that when it comes to the crunch it'll be someone else's bones which go crack and not their own. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: c include libreries
On Mon, May 25, 1998 at 05:46:37PM -0400, Norbert Veber wrote: I assume you are using hamm. Imake is in the xlib6g-dev package, as for c/c++ headers, they are in libc6-dev (for c) and libg++272-dev (for c++). I'm not sure about this last one, so someone correct me if I'm wrong. The preferred (and at the moment only) C++ compiler in hamm is g++ from egcs ; libstdc++2.8-dev has the include files that should be used with this version (libg++272-dev is for use with the gcc 2.7.2.3 C++ compiler, which is not in hamm yet (it's in slink as g++272); that C++ compiler is only for backward compatibility). HTH, Ray -- ART A friend of mine in Tulsa, Okla., when I was about eleven years old. I'd be interested to hear from him. There are so many pseudos around taking his name in vain. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is this a compiler error?
On Sat, May 23, 1998 at 08:54:35PM +0200, Oliver Elphick wrote: +++ linda:~/cprogs/priory$ ldd prdb prdb: error in loading shared libraries prdb: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory +++ (why did that not work, while the next command did? it is the same executable) No. Not necessarily. ldd has a weird method of searching, where the current directory is the last in the search path. So if there is a prdb in the search path, but outside the current dir, you get the results of ldd on that. Ray -- ART A friend of mine in Tulsa, Okla., when I was about eleven years old. I'd be interested to hear from him. There are so many pseudos around taking his name in vain. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: From Bo to Hamm. Emacs and FVWM2 seg faults but no core
On Fri, May 22, 1998 at 12:18:03PM +0200, Daniel Mashao wrote: Any help how to get my emacs and fvwm2 to work. On Sat, May 23, 1998 at 11:49:01AM +0200, Torsten Hilbrich wrote: On: Fri, 22 May 1998 12:18:03 +0200 (SAT) Daniel Mashao writes: Any help how to get my emacs and fvwm2 to work. Please check the output of ldd 'which emacs` and ldd `which fvwm2`. If there are both libc.so.5 and libc.so.6 shown, you need to update some of the other libraries. If the executables are basically linked to libc.so.5, you need some libs from the oldlibs directory. Actually, due to the way ldd works, it's information isn't 100% reliable. I recommend using objdump --all-headers on the problematic binaries. If there's an RPATH entry, you need to upgrade your binaries. The NEEDED part will show whether it is a libc5 or libc6 binary. Ray -- POPULATION EXPLOSION Unique in human experience, an event which happened yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: seg faults /core dumps (hamm)
On Fri, May 22, 1998 at 08:04:19AM +0200, Daniel Mashao wrote: Yes I have similar problem and no I have not solved them. Actually I have no problem with soffice but I cannot run fvwm2 and emacs so far. Old versions of fvwm2 (pre 2.0.46-BETA-1 I think) had a hardwired search path for the X libraries, causing the dynamic loader to load them against the X libraries in /usr/X11R6/lib (which on a bo-ish system might very well contain libc5 X librares). Ray -- ART A friend of mine in Tulsa, Okla., when I was about eleven years old. I'd be interested to hear from him. There are so many pseudos around taking his name in vain. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: seg faults /core dumps (hamm)
On Thu, May 21, 1998 at 08:32:10PM +0200, Christian Zander wrote: I encounter the following problem when I try to run StarOffice 4.0, Adobe Acrobat reader, etc. : the application exits with a segmentation fault and dumps core. Hmm. All of those are libc5 binaries. Did you install oldlibs/xlib6 ? Please check what ldd oneofthecoredumpingbinaries says: do the libraries come from /usr/X11R6/lib (wrong), or from /usr/X11R6/lib/i486-linuxaout/ (right)? HTH, Ray -- LEADERSHIP A form of self-preservation exhibited by people with auto- destructive imaginations in order to ensure that when it comes to the crunch it'll be someone else's bones which go crack and not their own. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to print A0 documents on A4 printer ?
On Mon, May 18, 1998 at 08:09:10AM +, Ionut Borcoman at musa wrote: [how to make A0 poster from A4 files] At ftp://ftp.ics.ele.tue.nl/pub/poster/ you can find a nice little tool that makes posters from (encapsulated) PostScript files. Too bad there it doesn't mention copyright terms, so we can't make a package for it. Jos, perhaps you can release it under public domain, BSD license, GPL license or another license that is free in the sense of http://www.debian.org/social_contract.html#guidelines aka http://www.opensource.org/osd.html ? Ray -- POPULATION EXPLOSION Unique in human experience, an event which happened yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: need Libtermcap.so.2
On Fri, May 15, 1998 at 03:19:01PM -0400, dave oswald wrote: need Libtermcap.so.2 Package: termcap-compat Priority: extra Section: admin Installed-Size: 565 Maintainer: Christian Hudon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Architecture: i386 Version: 1.1.1 Replaces: libtermcap Depends: libc5 (= 5.4.0-0) Conflicts: libtermcap Filename: dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/admin/termcap-compat_1.1.1.deb Size: 191930 MD5sum: 34cdacc19f9d700353fd5b2d64687938 Description: Compatibility package for old termcap-based programs. The termcap-compat package provides the libtermcap.so.2 and /etc/termcap files which are required to run non-Debian, binary-only termcap-based programs. Since libc6-based programs are hopefully modern enough to be linked with ncurses (or slang), this package only provides a libc5-based libtermcap library. . You do not need to install this package to run Debian-packaged programs since Debian GNU/Linux uses terminfo and not termcap. You need this package if a program (that you cannot recompile) fails to run with the error message ...: can't load library 'libtermcap.so.2' or complains about a missing /etc/termcap file. . The termcap-compat package isn't meant to be used to compile programs therefore it doesn't provide all the necesary files for compilation. If you want to compile a program that claims to need termcap, why not try ncurses's termcap emulation instead? It's as simple as linking with ncurses instead of libtermcap (i.e. replace the '-ltermcap' with '-lncurses' in the makefile). Ncurses' termcap emulation routines translate terminfo entries to termcap entries on the fly, so you don't even need an /etc/termcap file. . This package provides: libtermcap.so shared library, version 2.0.8 termcap database, version 9.13.25 Please resond to [EMAIL PROTECTED], in addition to the list. Please use the Reply-To header to specify an alternate reply address. HTH, Ray -- UNFAIR Term applied to advantages enjoyed by other people which we tried to cheat them out of and didn't manage. See also DISHONESTY, SNEAKY, UNDERHAND and JUST LUCKY I GUESS. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
