Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2020 #932

2020-09-24 Thread mike.junk...@att.net
hony gennard wrote:
> I am looking at the contents of my boot log file; when trying to get out of
> the very long file I thought Ctrl + c should do it - it does not and I
> cannot
> find any way. I wanted to try tail and head so see how they do. Can anyone
> please help me.

How are you "looking at" the file?  I would suggest using less.

You get out of less by pressing q.
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 07:23:28 -0600
From: Charles Curley 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Cc: m...@fuckaround.org
Subject: Re: notify via virtual terminal available packages
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On Wed, 23 Sep 2020 22:36:36 +0200
P=C3=B2l Hallen  wrote:

> like ubuntu, what's the best way to show a notify alert (via
> terminal) about available packages?

I take it you mean, *new* available packages. I don't know how Ubuntu
does it, so I'll tell you what I do. And the answer depends on what you
want to do.

You could install unattended-upgrades, and let that notify you (via
email) of packages it has already upgraded for you and the occasional
reboot required.

If that's a bit too trusting, set a cron job to pull in new packages,
but not install them. I use:

  5      3      *                *    *    root    sleep $( echo $((1 + RANDOM 
\% 1=
200)) ) ; /usr/bin/apt-get update > /dev/null && /usr/bin/apt-get -dy dist-=
upgrade > /dev/null

The sleep command waits for up to 1200 seconds. That is there because I
have a small herd of computers here and way back when I was on dial-up
I did not want to swamp my connection.

The apt-get update does an update, and throws away the output.

Same with the dist-upgrade. The -d does a download only.

You could follow that with "apt list --upgradable -a" so cron will
email you a list of available upgrades. Or you could run that manually
when you are ready. I just run "apt upgrade" when I am ready. As I
mentioned, I have a small herd of computers. I run a shell script based
on mssh to check all of them for updates.

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Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 13:35:17 + (UTC)
From: "mike.junk...@att.net" 
To: Dan Ritter , 
    "debian-user@lists.debian.org" 
Subject: Re: Mail transfer agent
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What tasks do you want your mail server to perform? Please be
specific. We will have better advice for you once we know
exactly what you want to have happen.
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Thanks, Dan,All I need from an MTA is:1) take mail from fetchmail and put i=
t in a mailbox for mutt to display,2) take mail from mutt and send it to my=
ISP via smtp3) take messages from the system, eg: cron and deliver them to=
that same mailbox4) take a simple message on the CL such as:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
echo 'blah' | mail -s 'oops' no...@example.com

I've been using exim for years and it works well but is overkill for my nee=
ds.
Thanks,Mike
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Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 15:53:09 +0200
From: john doe 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
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Re: Mail transfer agent

2020-09-24 Thread mike.junk...@att.net
 
On Wednesday, September 23, 2020, 09:14:42 PM CDT, Dan Ritter 
 wrote:  
 mutt is an MUA, not an MTA. 

What tasks do you want your mail server to perform? Please be
specific. We will have better advice for you once we know
exactly what you want to have happen.
-dsr-
Thanks, Dan,All I need from an MTA is:1) take mail from fetchmail and put it in 
a mailbox for mutt to display,2) take mail from mutt and send it to my ISP via 
smtp3) take messages from the system, eg: cron and deliver them to that same 
mailbox4) take a simple message on the CL such as:    echo 'blah' | mail -s 
'oops' no...@example.com

I've been using exim for years and it works well but is overkill for my needs.
Thanks,Mike
  

Mail transfer agent

2020-09-23 Thread mike.junk...@att.net
When I installed a minimal system on my Raspberry PI no mta was 
installed.Though mutt claims to be a mta it seems it only will fetch mail not 
send it.Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.After struggling with postfix for 
several days without being able to send or receive mai,l except like now via 
webmail, I'm about ready to go back to exim4 even though it's overkill for a 
single user on a single computer. Is there a light weight mta appropriate for a 
single user that's easy to configure?Thanks, Mike