Re: [minor bitch] about the panel (taskbar) LXDE
Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com writes: Some mnths ago (not sure how many) the icons (running program indicators) that appear in the bottom (taskbar like ) panel changed from showing icons of the running program such as the emacs icon, xterm icon, vim icon etc. to just showing a generic icon and text, making it hard to identify witch icon is which program quickly. I got good news on this by posting on the lxde.devel group: See this short thread: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.desktop.lxde.devel/5529 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87d27lwnli@reader.local.lan
Re: [minor bitch] about the panel (taskbar) LXDE
Jape Person jap...@comcast.net writes: On 12/11/2014 01:56 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com writes: On Mi, 10 dec 14, 13:57:01, Harry Putnam wrote: Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com writes: So far every application *except xterm* I have tried has the same icon in the top left corner of its window as well as the taskbar. I tried GTK as well as Qt applications. To me this seems to indicate a bug in xterm rather than lxpanel. [...] Thanks for clearing up my misreading xterm may have a bug, but that would also mean emacs gui does too, but may also be using an xterm. Can anyone say if xterm shows an icon in taskbar with other desktops than lxde? Debian testing / Xfce / xterm. The proper xterm icon definitely shows up in both Window Buttons and in Window Menu (which is what I normally use). [...] Is one of the places you mention above, located in the taskbar like area across the bottom of screen? And appears there when you start the app? That is, the icon that represents the running program when it is running? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/8761dg9a7n@newsguy.com
Re: [minor bitch] about the panel (taskbar) LXDE
On 12/12/2014 10:09 AM, Harry Putnam wrote: Jape Person jap...@comcast.net writes: On 12/11/2014 01:56 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com writes: On Mi, 10 dec 14, 13:57:01, Harry Putnam wrote: Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com writes: So far every application *except xterm* I have tried has the same icon in the top left corner of its window as well as the taskbar. I tried GTK as well as Qt applications. To me this seems to indicate a bug in xterm rather than lxpanel. [...] Thanks for clearing up my misreading xterm may have a bug, but that would also mean emacs gui does too, but may also be using an xterm. Can anyone say if xterm shows an icon in taskbar with other desktops than lxde? Debian testing / Xfce / xterm. The proper xterm icon definitely shows up in both Window Buttons and in Window Menu (which is what I normally use). [...] Is one of the places you mention above, located in the taskbar like area across the bottom of screen? And appears there when you start the app? That is, the icon that represents the running program when it is running? Sorry. I should have explained since there's no reason an lxde user should know the names of the Xfce panel applets. The Window Buttons applet is a taskbar applet which puts a button on the taskbar for each application running on the current workspace. So, to answer your question, yes. I just mentioned the Window Menu one because it shrinks all of that into a single button that you can expand with a mouse click. Since I almost always use just my keyboard (Alt-Tab) for switching among applications, I don't really need my taskbar cluttered with buttons. And the Window Menu is there is I really want to use a mouse for switching applications or for seeing what applications are open on each workspace. JP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/548b28e2.60...@comcast.net
Re: [minor bitch] about the panel (taskbar) LXDE
Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com writes: On Mi, 10 dec 14, 13:57:01, Harry Putnam wrote: Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com writes: So far every application *except xterm* I have tried has the same icon in the top left corner of its window as well as the taskbar. I tried GTK as well as Qt applications. To me this seems to indicate a bug in xterm rather than lxpanel. [...] Thanks for clearing up my misreading xterm may have a bug, but that would also mean emacs gui does too, but may also be using an xterm. Can anyone say if xterm shows an icon in taskbar with other desktops than lxde? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87k31yow1j@reader.local.lan
Re: [minor bitch] about the panel (taskbar) LXDE
On 12/11/2014 01:56 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com writes: On Mi, 10 dec 14, 13:57:01, Harry Putnam wrote: Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com writes: So far every application *except xterm* I have tried has the same icon in the top left corner of its window as well as the taskbar. I tried GTK as well as Qt applications. To me this seems to indicate a bug in xterm rather than lxpanel. [...] Thanks for clearing up my misreading xterm may have a bug, but that would also mean emacs gui does too, but may also be using an xterm. Can anyone say if xterm shows an icon in taskbar with other desktops than lxde? Debian testing / Xfce / xterm. The proper xterm icon definitely shows up in both Window Buttons and in Window Menu (which is what I normally use). I saw this thread earlier and started to provide that information. Sorry I didn't. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/548a0b0f.2050...@comcast.net
Re: [minor bitch] about the panel (taskbar) LXDE
On Tue, 2014-12-09 at 11:05 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: Some mnths ago (not sure how many) the icons (running program indicators) that appear in the bottom (taskbar like ) panel changed from showing icons of the running program such as the emacs icon, xterm icon, vim icon etc. to just showing a generic icon and text, making it hard to identify witch icon is which program quickly. I started getting the same problem at a similar time with Jessie LXDE. Do your applications have the correct icons in the top left of their windows still? Mine does, it's just the taskbar which is wrong. A (possibly wild) speculation is there's some race condition where the task bar button gets created before the application sets it's icon and then doesn't get notice or act on the change. I don't see this problem with all applications. The one I most notice it with is a (QT based?) commercial application: Beyond Compare. -- Tixy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1418198640.2811.16.ca...@yxit.co.uk
Re: [minor bitch] about the panel (taskbar) LXDE
Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com writes: On Ma, 09 dec 14, 11:05:23, Harry Putnam wrote: Further, some indicators still show the regular icon. One I notice is iceweasel. I'd like the old behavior back but have no idea how to start digging into it. I'm guessing the icon is set by the application, in this case your terminal emulator, not the panel. As far as I recall I was already using rxvt-unicode when I switched to LXDE and never saw vim's icon in the taskbar when running it under rxvt. I may be remembering gvim... I do run gvim from time to time. And I nearly always use real Thomas Dickie Xterm rather the various desktop wannabees. Were there any recent changes related to your terminal emulator? Well, the changed involved in with `full-upgrades'. Which I've probably done at least twice in last month, but I'm pretty sure the situation I see is older than that... I did mention that it might have been going on for several months already. --- --- ---=--- --- --- Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com writes: Harry Putnam wrote: Running jessie Using an lxde desktop... for a long time now (Note: for lack of a fuller vocabulary, the word icon is used to cover a few different things below:) (Attached at bottom is a screen grab showing what I'm talking about) snip Running uptodate sid with lxde. I see none of the behaviour you are describing. Can you post a screen grab of the task panel with several things running? Tixy t...@yxit.co.uk writes: On Tue, 2014-12-09 at 11:05 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: Some mnths ago (not sure how many) the icons (running program indicators) that appear in the bottom (taskbar like ) panel changed from showing icons of the running program such as the emacs icon, xterm icon, vim icon etc. to just showing a generic icon and text, making it hard to identify witch icon is which program quickly. I started getting the same problem at a similar time with Jessie LXDE. Do your applications have the correct icons in the top left of their windows still? Mine does, it's just the taskbar which is wrong. Yes they do (I've attached a tiny snippet screen grab for running emacs and xterm windows laid over each other to show the icons) A (possibly wild) speculation is there's some race condition where the task bar button gets created before the application sets it's icon and then doesn't get notice or act on the change. I don't see this problem with all applications. The one I most notice it with is a (QT based?) commercial application: Beyond Compare. That sounds just like what I'm seeing; but with the exception I have no qt based apps. Do you see icons for xterm? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87a92vr8rt@reader.local.lan
Re: [minor bitch] about the panel (taskbar) LXDE
Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com writes: [...] Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com writes: [...] Tixy t...@yxit.co.uk writes: [...] Whoops, forgot the promised screen grab:
Re: [minor bitch] about the panel (taskbar) LXDE
On Wed, 2014-12-10 at 07:25 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: Tixy t...@yxit.co.uk writes: A (possibly wild) speculation is there's some race condition where the task bar button gets created before the application sets it's icon and then doesn't get notice or act on the change. As an experiment I removed the taskbar from the panel, rebooted, opened some apps then added the taskbar back to the panel. The icons were still wrong, so my theory about timing looks like it's shot down. I don't see this problem with all applications. The one I most notice it with is a (QT based?) commercial application: Beyond Compare. That sounds just like what I'm seeing; but with the exception I have no qt based apps. Do you see icons for xterm? xterm has the correct icon in its window's title bar but not in the taskbar. -- Tixy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1418216198.2878.3.ca...@yxit.co.uk
Re: [minor bitch] about the panel (taskbar) LXDE
On Mi, 10 dec 14, 08:04:00, Tixy wrote: I started getting the same problem at a similar time with Jessie LXDE. Do your applications have the correct icons in the top left of their windows still? Mine does, it's just the taskbar which is wrong. A (possibly wild) speculation is there's some race condition where the task bar button gets created before the application sets it's icon and then doesn't get notice or act on the change. I don't see this problem with all applications. The one I most notice it with is a (QT based?) commercial application: Beyond Compare. So far every application *except xterm* I have tried has the same icon in the top left corner of its window as well as the taskbar. I tried GTK as well as Qt applications. To me this seems to indicate a bug in xterm rather than lxpanel. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [minor bitch] about the panel (taskbar) LXDE
Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com writes: So far every application *except xterm* I have tried has the same icon in the top left corner of its window as well as the taskbar. I tried GTK as well as Qt applications. To me this seems to indicate a bug in xterm rather than lxpanel. I maybe mis-interpreting your meaning above. Do you mean you see the generic icon I posted both in corner of applicaitons and on the application indicator in taskbar? That is, you see NONE of the icons applications are supposed to have in either place? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/871to7qqo2@reader.local.lan
Re: [minor bitch] about the panel (taskbar) LXDE
Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com writes: Harry Putnam wrote: Running jessie Using an lxde desktop... for a long time now (Note: for lack of a fuller vocabulary, the word icon is used to cover a few different things below:) (Attached at bottom is a screen grab showing what I'm talking about) snip Running uptodate sid with lxde. I see none of the behaviour you are describing. Hugo Hugo, can you post a screen grab of your taskbar with several applicaitons running? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87wq5zpc0p@reader.local.lan
Re: [minor bitch] about the panel (taskbar) LXDE
Tixy t...@yxit.co.uk writes: On Wed, 2014-12-10 at 07:25 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: Tixy t...@yxit.co.uk writes: A (possibly wild) speculation is there's some race condition where the task bar button gets created before the application sets it's icon and then doesn't get notice or act on the change. As an experiment I removed the taskbar from the panel, rebooted, opened some apps then added the taskbar back to the panel. The icons were still wrong, so my theory about timing looks like it's shot down. Thanks for that input... 1 thing tested I don't see this problem with all applications. The one I most notice it with is a (QT based?) commercial application: Beyond Compare. That sounds just like what I'm seeing; but with the exception I have no qt based apps. Do you see icons for xterm? xterm has the correct icon in its window's title bar but not in the taskbar. Thanks for this too... ditto for me -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87signpbyg@reader.local.lan
Re: [minor bitch] about the panel (taskbar) LXDE
On Mi, 10 dec 14, 13:57:01, Harry Putnam wrote: Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com writes: So far every application *except xterm* I have tried has the same icon in the top left corner of its window as well as the taskbar. I tried GTK as well as Qt applications. To me this seems to indicate a bug in xterm rather than lxpanel. I maybe mis-interpreting your meaning above. Do you mean you see the generic icon I posted both in corner of applicaitons and on the application indicator in taskbar? That is, you see NONE of the icons applications are supposed to have in either place? Sorry, let me try to rephrase this: except for xterm, all applications I've tried show *their own* icon, in both the top left corner of the window as well as the panel. The xterm window has its own icon in the top left corner (a big red 'X' with a blue 'T' on top), but only a generic icon in the panel. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
[minor bitch] about the panel (taskbar) LXDE
Running jessie Using an lxde desktop... for a long time now (Note: for lack of a fuller vocabulary, the word icon is used to cover a few different things below:) (Attached at bottom is a screen grab showing what I'm talking about) Some mnths ago (not sure how many) the icons (running program indicators) that appear in the bottom (taskbar like ) panel changed from showing icons of the running program such as the emacs icon, xterm icon, vim icon etc. to just showing a generic icon and text, making it hard to identify witch icon is which program quickly. You can stop and and hold cursor on an icon (running program indicator) to see the full text it has, which will identify the program in most cases or you can click the panel entry and see which diplayed window iconizes or opens, but it used to be just a glance would tell you. Further, some indicators still show the regular icon. One I notice is iceweasel. I'd like the old behavior back but have no idea how to start digging into it. Perhaps it is an icon package or something ... hopefully someone here will know something about it...
Re: [minor bitch] about the panel (taskbar) LXDE
On Ma, 09 dec 14, 11:05:23, Harry Putnam wrote: Further, some indicators still show the regular icon. One I notice is iceweasel. I'd like the old behavior back but have no idea how to start digging into it. I'm guessing the icon is set by the application, in this case your terminal emulator, not the panel. As far as I recall I was already using rxvt-unicode when I switched to LXDE and never saw vim's icon in the taskbar when running it under rxvt. Were there any recent changes related to your terminal emulator? Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [minor bitch] about the panel (taskbar) LXDE
Harry Putnam wrote: Running jessie Using an lxde desktop... for a long time now (Note: for lack of a fuller vocabulary, the word icon is used to cover a few different things below:) (Attached at bottom is a screen grab showing what I'm talking about) snip Running uptodate sid with lxde. I see none of the behaviour you are describing. Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/m67gb3$khh$1...@ger.gmane.org
