Re (2): guidance for making a .Xresources file.
From: Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 11:24:45 -0700 To workaround the noise create an empty file. $ touch .Xresources Check. The default file created automatically by vnc ... contains the following: ... Restored that. Yes, TightVNC works again. Whew. As expected with the trivial .Xresources, parameters in the screen on the server and in the screen on the VNC client are the same. The desktop background, for example, is the same in both screens; not a concern. Conversely, I'd rather that a change of dimensions of the browser window on one screen wouldn't change the browser on the other screen. For that I'll need to use xrdb properly with screen specific parameters in .Xresources. Documentation I've seen is skimpy. http://wiki.debian.org/TinyWM for example, puts the invocation of xrdb in /usr/bin/tinywm-session! Certainly not good practice according to discusion here. Thanks for the help,... Peter E. -- Telephone 1 360 450 2132. Shop pages http://carnot.yi.org/ accessible as long as the old drives survive. Personal pages http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/ . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/171056906.36032.28347@cantor.invalid
Re: Re (2): guidance for making a .Xresources file.
peasth...@shaw.ca wrote:
Conversely, I'd rather that a change of dimensions of the browser
window on one screen wouldn't change the browser on the other
screen.
Uhm... Suddenly reading you saying this confuses me immensely! We
are talking about VNC sharing a *single* screen. So isn't it the
exact *same browser* on the exact *same screen*? Changing it on one
screen will change it on the other too since there is only one browser
window being changed, right? What did I miss?
For that I'll need to use xrdb properly with screen specific
parameters in .Xresources. Documentation I've seen is skimpy.
http://wiki.debian.org/TinyWM for example, puts the invocation of
xrdb in /usr/bin/tinywm-session! Certainly not good practice
according to discusion here.
Sometimes what people do is to script the setting of some resources.
$ xrdb -sym | grep -e DWIDTH -e DHEIGHT
-DWIDTH=3200
-DHEIGHT=1200
... I have two 1600x1200 monitors side by side. ...
Then something like this can be done.
if [ X$(xrdb -sym | awk -F= '/DWIDTH/{print$NF}') = X3200 ]; then
xrdb -load .Xresources.big
else
xrdb -load .Xresources.small
fi
And endless variations too.
Bob
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Re (3): guidance for making a .Xresources file.
From: Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 14:24:41 -0700 We are talking about VNC sharing a *single* screen. Two machines, Dalton and Cantor in http://carnot.yi.org/NetworkExtant.jpg . Dalton has an X server and a TightVNC server. My understanding is that TightVNC uses X to some extent. Dalton also has an X console. Cantor has a VNC console. With my trivial configuration the two consoles get the same desktop wallpaper. Some other parameters are also shared. Sometimes what people do is to script the setting of some resources. So here it would be this way in pseudocode. CASE client OF DaltonsOwnConsole: set this; set that |CantorsConsole: other settings END Does that make sense? Thanks,... Peter E. -- Telephone 1 360 450 2132. Shop pages http://carnot.yi.org/ accessible as long as the old drives survive. Personal pages http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/ . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/171056906.56342.28348@cantor.invalid
Re: Re (3): guidance for making a .Xresources file.
peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: Dalton has an X server and a TightVNC server. My understanding is that TightVNC uses X to some extent. To the extent that 100% is a percent, yes. TightVNC is a way to transport the X protocol from one host to another so as to share a display. VNC starts up an X display on one system and allows it to be connected to from other hosts. (Or the same host too.) Dalton also has an X console. Okay. Cantor has a VNC console. What is a VNC console? Text console, sure. A graphical console started through xdm/gdm/kdm (X display manager) for graphical login, sure. Or maybe you are using XDMCP and an X-terminal for a remote login, sure. But what is a VNC console? Surely you would need to log in using either the text console or ssh from another system or from xdm or something and then start up a vnc session, right? I am sure I am just misunderstanding something simple. With my trivial configuration the two consoles get the same desktop wallpaper. Some other parameters are also shared. Ah so when you said change of dimensions of the browser window on one screen wouldn't change the browser on the other screen you meant when you change the resources in .Xdefaults / .Xresources which is is somehow copied between the two (or network filesystem shared) that this would change the default browser size when the browser starts up. Gotcha. Bob Proulx wrote: Sometimes what people do is to script the setting of some resources. So here it would be this way in pseudocode. CASE client OF DaltonsOwnConsole: set this; set that |CantorsConsole: other settings END Does that make sense? Thanks,... Peter E. Sure. That is a perfect application for it. Then you can have one script that will run on ether/both of the systems and behave differently. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re (4): guidance for making a .Xresources file.
From: Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:00:26 -0700 TightVNC is a way to transport the X protocol from one host to another so as to share a display. According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Network_Computing to protocol is RFB. VNC is based on X in Linux and Unix but not in Windows. Some servers can support more than one session. ... an X display on one system ... connected to from other hosts. ... What is a VNC console? It was my term for the screen of the other host you mentioned. Photo here. http://carnot.yi.org/Cantor.html Sorry if the aspect ratio is bad. According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Network_Computing the correct name is VNC Client. Dalton is the VNC server and Cantor is the VNC client. Surely you would need to log in using either the text console or ssh from another system or from xdm or something and then start up a vnc session, right? On Cantor simply execute (click) this and the viewer opens. Desktops.OpenDoc dalton.invalid:5901 (VNCViewerDocs.NewDoc) ~ Yes, Cantor sends a password to Dalton. ... you meant when you change the resources in .Xdefaults / .Xresources which is is somehow copied between the two ... Resource strikes me as an odd term here. I'd rather say size or color or more generally parameter. The abstractness of resource must have appealed to an X developer. In any case, the problem appears to be that Dalton is using just one framebuffer. Dalton has a decent sized 4:3 display whereas Cantor has a small 5:6 display. If Iceweasel is opened on Cantor and then on Dalton, the Dalton instance has the small shape of the Cantor instance. ... you can have one script that will run on ether/both of the systems and behave differently. I was imagining the script to run on server Dalton so that each client is recognized and served the appropriate framebuffer. Dalton provides one session to its own client and one to Cantor. Both sessions should be able to run concurrently. I'll guess that the script you mentioned is the place to configure this. Isn't there a native X communication more sophisticated than VNC via RFB? If so, why is VNC ever used for a Linux client? Regards, ... Peter E. -- Telephone 1 360 450 2132. Shop pages http://carnot.yi.org/ accessible as long as the old drives survive. Personal pages http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/ . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/171056906.77861.28350@cantor.invalid
guidance for making a .Xresources file.
Appears that I need to make a .Xresources file before TightVNC will work. Can anyone recommend instructions or examples for the task? The transcript from the TightVNC follows. Thanks, ... Peter E. peter@dalton:~$ tightvncserver :1 -geometry 620x730 -depth 16 New 'X' desktop is dalton:1 Starting applications specified in /home/peter/.vnc/xstartup Log file is /home/peter/.vnc/dalton:1.log peter@dalton:~$ cat .vnc/dalton:1.log 09/02/11 08:45:59 Xvnc version TightVNC-1.3.9 09/02/11 08:45:59 Copyright (C) 2000-2007 TightVNC Group 09/02/11 08:45:59 Copyright (C) 1999 ATT Laboratories Cambridge 09/02/11 08:45:59 All Rights Reserved. 09/02/11 08:45:59 See http://www.tightvnc.com/ for information on TightVNC 09/02/11 08:45:59 Desktop name 'X' (dalton:1) 09/02/11 08:45:59 Protocol versions supported: 3.3, 3.7, 3.8, 3.7t, 3.8t 09/02/11 08:45:59 Listening for VNC connections on TCP port 5901 xrdb: No such file or directory xrdb: can't open file '/home/peter/.Xresources' peter@dalton:~$ -- Telephone 1 360 450 2132. Shop pages http://carnot.yi.org/ accessible as long as the old drives survive. Personal pages http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/ . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/171056905.37060.30755@cantor.invalid
Re: guidance for making a .Xresources file.
Hi Peter, Can you send your ~/.vnc/xstartup ? Franz Gustav Niederheitmann Engenheiro de Computação -- Running Windows on a PC is like having a brand new Porsche but only be able to drive backwards with the handbrake on. 2011/2/9 peasth...@shaw.ca Appears that I need to make a .Xresources file before TightVNC will work. Can anyone recommend instructions or examples for the task? The transcript from the TightVNC follows. Thanks, ... Peter E. peter@dalton:~$ tightvncserver :1 -geometry 620x730 -depth 16 New 'X' desktop is dalton:1 Starting applications specified in /home/peter/.vnc/xstartup Log file is /home/peter/.vnc/dalton:1.log peter@dalton:~$ cat .vnc/dalton:1.log 09/02/11 08:45:59 Xvnc version TightVNC-1.3.9 09/02/11 08:45:59 Copyright (C) 2000-2007 TightVNC Group 09/02/11 08:45:59 Copyright (C) 1999 ATT Laboratories Cambridge 09/02/11 08:45:59 All Rights Reserved. 09/02/11 08:45:59 See http://www.tightvnc.com/ for information on TightVNC 09/02/11 08:45:59 Desktop name 'X' (dalton:1) 09/02/11 08:45:59 Protocol versions supported: 3.3, 3.7, 3.8, 3.7t, 3.8t 09/02/11 08:45:59 Listening for VNC connections on TCP port 5901 xrdb: No such file or directory xrdb: can't open file '/home/peter/.Xresources' peter@dalton:~$ -- Telephone 1 360 450 2132. Shop pages http://carnot.yi.org/ accessible as long as the old drives survive. Personal pages http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/ . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/171056905.37060.30755@cantor.invalid
Re: Re (2): guidance for making a .Xresources file.
Try this: #!/bin/sh [ -x /etc/vnc/xstartup ] exec /etc/vnc/xstartup [ -r $HOME/.Xresources ] xrdb $HOME/.Xresources #xsetroot -solid grey #vncconfig -iconic #x-terminal-emulator -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title $VNCDESKTOP Desktop #x-window-manager openbox-lxde lxsession lxpanel pcmanfm Franz Gustav Niederheitmann Engenheiro de Computação -- Running Windows on a PC is like having a brand new Porsche but only be able to drive backwards with the handbrake on. 2011/2/9 peasth...@shaw.ca LXDE
Re: guidance for making a .Xresources file.
On Wed, Feb 09, 2011 at 12:03:04PM EST, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: Appears that I need to make a .Xresources file before TightVNC will work. Can anyone recommend instructions or examples for the task? The transcript from the TightVNC follows. Thanks, ... Peter E. peter@dalton:~$ tightvncserver :1 -geometry 620x730 -depth 16 New 'X' desktop is dalton:1 Starting applications specified in /home/peter/.vnc/xstartup Log file is /home/peter/.vnc/dalton:1.log peter@dalton:~$ cat .vnc/dalton:1.log 09/02/11 08:45:59 Xvnc version TightVNC-1.3.9 09/02/11 08:45:59 Copyright (C) 2000-2007 TightVNC Group 09/02/11 08:45:59 Copyright (C) 1999 ATT Laboratories Cambridge 09/02/11 08:45:59 All Rights Reserved. 09/02/11 08:45:59 See http://www.tightvnc.com/ for information on TightVNC 09/02/11 08:45:59 Desktop name 'X' (dalton:1) 09/02/11 08:45:59 Protocol versions supported: 3.3, 3.7, 3.8, 3.7t, 3.8t 09/02/11 08:45:59 Listening for VNC connections on TCP port 5901 xrdb: No such file or directory xrdb: can't open file '/home/peter/.Xresources' peter@dalton:~$ That's odd.. the vnc4server script on ‘lenny’ from the vnc4server package tests the existence of the file: [ -r ~/.Xresources ] xrdb -merge ... Maybe you could get away with defining an empty ~/.Xresources file: $ touch ~/.Xresources cj -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110209182156.GB4239@pavo.local
Re: guidance for making a .Xresources file.
peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: Appears that I need to make a .Xresources file before TightVNC will work. Shouldn't need one. Can anyone recommend instructions or examples for the task? To workaround the noise create an empty file. $ touch .Xresources The transcript from the TightVNC follows. ... 09/02/11 08:45:59 Listening for VNC connections on TCP port 5901 xrdb: No such file or directory xrdb: can't open file '/home/peter/.Xresources' peter@dalton:~$ The default file created automatically by vnc (it should have stated that somewhere in all of the many lines of output noise) contains the following: #!/bin/sh xrdb $HOME/.Xresources xsetroot -solid grey #x-terminal-emulator -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title $VNCDESKTOP Desktop #x-window-manager # Fix to make GNOME work export XKL_XMODMAP_DISABLE=1 /etc/X11/Xsession That is a default because most people have a .Xresources file. It is a pretty simple and brute force default. But you can edit that file yourself. Just edit it to your preferences. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: guidance for making a .Xresources file.
Chris Jones wrote: That's odd.. the vnc4server script on ‘lenny’ from the vnc4server package tests the existence of the file: [ -r ~/.Xresources ] xrdb -merge ... The vncserver uses the alternatives. It could be one of several different servers. From my machine: $ update-alternatives --display vncserver vncserver - auto mode link currently points to /usr/bin/tightvncserver /usr/bin/tightvncserver - priority 70 slave vncconnect: /usr/bin/tightvncconnect slave vncconnect.1.gz: /usr/share/man/man1/tightvncconnect.1.gz slave vncserver.1.gz: /usr/share/man/man1/tightvncserver.1.gz Current 'best' version is '/usr/bin/tightvncserver'. The tightvncserver package says: Creating default startup script /home/bob/.vnc/xstartup And that file is: #!/bin/sh xrdb $HOME/.Xresources xsetroot -solid grey #x-terminal-emulator -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title $VNCDESKTOP Desktop #x-window-manager # Fix to make GNOME work export XKL_XMODMAP_DISABLE=1 /etc/X11/Xsession But undoubtedly other vnc servers create different files there. :-) Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re (3): guidance for making a .Xresources file.
From: Franz Gustav Niederheitmann fra...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 15:26:31 -0200 Try this: #!/bin/sh [ -x /etc/vnc/xstartup ] exec /etc/vnc/xstartup ... I put your text in /home/peter/.vnc/xstartup. Incidentally /home/peter/.vnc versus /etc/vnc could be a source of confusion. In any case, the result follows. Seems RANDR is a problem. Thanks, ... Peter E. == peter@dalton:~$ tightvncserver :1 -geometry 620x730 -depth 16 New 'X' desktop is dalton:1 Starting applications specified in /home/peter/.vnc/xstartup Log file is /home/peter/.vnc/dalton:1.log peter@dalton:~$ tightvncserver -kill :1 Killing Xtightvnc process ID 6043 peter@dalton:~$ cat /home/peter/.vnc/dalton:1.log 09/02/11 10:16:30 Xvnc version TightVNC-1.3.9 09/02/11 10:16:30 Copyright (C) 2000-2007 TightVNC Group 09/02/11 10:16:30 Copyright (C) 1999 ATT Laboratories Cambridge 09/02/11 10:16:30 All Rights Reserved. 09/02/11 10:16:30 See http://www.tightvnc.com/ for information on TightVNC 09/02/11 10:16:30 Desktop name 'X' (dalton:1) 09/02/11 10:16:30 Protocol versions supported: 3.3, 3.7, 3.8, 3.7t, 3.8t 09/02/11 10:16:30 Listening for VNC connections on TCP port 5901 Xlib: extension RANDR missing on display :1.0. Xlib: extension RANDR missing on display :1.0. Openbox-Message: A window manager is already running on screen 0 Openbox-Message: Requested key Print does not exist on the display Openbox-Message: Requested key Print does not exist on the display Xlib: extension RANDR missing on display :1.0. (polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1:6056): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: cannot register existing type `_PolkitError' (polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1:6056): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_once_init_leave: assertion `initialization_value != 0' failed Openbox-Message: Unable to find a valid menu file debian-menu.xml Xlib: extension XInputExtension missing on display :1.0. Failed to get list of devices XIO: fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :1.0 after 28 requests (28 known processed) with 0 events remaining. XIO: fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :1.0 after 1434 requests (1434 known processed) with 0 events remaining. lxpanel: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :1.0. pcmanfm: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :1.0. polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :1.0. twinkle: Fatal IO error: client killed (lxpanel:6078): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :1 Cannot open display: peter@dalton:~$ -- Telephone 1 360 450 2132. Shop pages http://carnot.yi.org/ accessible as long as the old drives survive. Personal pages http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/ . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/171056905.43044.30757@cantor.invalid
Re: guidance for making a .Xresources file.
On Wed, Feb 09, 2011 at 01:28:53PM EST, Bob Proulx wrote: Chris Jones wrote: That's odd.. the vnc4server script on ‘lenny’ from the vnc4server package tests the existence of the file: [ -r ~/.Xresources ] xrdb -merge ... The vncserver uses the alternatives. It could be one of several different servers. From my machine: $ update-alternatives --display vncserver vncserver - auto mode link currently points to /usr/bin/tightvncserver /usr/bin/tightvncserver - priority 70 slave vncconnect: /usr/bin/tightvncconnect slave vncconnect.1.gz: /usr/share/man/man1/tightvncconnect.1.gz slave vncserver.1.gz: /usr/share/man/man1/tightvncserver.1.gz Current 'best' version is '/usr/bin/tightvncserver'. The tightvncserver package says: Creating default startup script /home/bob/.vnc/xstartup And that file is: #!/bin/sh xrdb $HOME/.Xresources xsetroot -solid grey #x-terminal-emulator -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title $VNCDESKTOP Desktop #x-window-manager # Fix to make GNOME work export XKL_XMODMAP_DISABLE=1 /etc/X11/Xsession But undoubtedly other vnc servers create different files there. :-) Ah, yes.. I'm unclear as to how I got to have vnc4server and tightvncserver both installed on my machine. :-) Now the problem is that I use the old, possibly deprecated, ~/.Xdefaults and I have a lot of stuff in there. Since I was in a rush and testing something unrelated, when I saw that I was gettting the wrong fonts, colors, etc. etc. I just duplicated did: cp .Xdefaults .Xresources. That's what gave me the idea of the empty ~/.Xresources file. But since debian systems also have tons of X system-wide resources in /etc/X11/app-defaults/*, I think I should keep that in mind, and check whether whatever vnc server I'm running is aware of those.. or maybe they're picked up by default anyway and I shouldn't worry about it. cj -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110209185522.GD4239@pavo.local
Re: guidance for making a .Xresources file.
on 11:24 Wed 09 Feb, Bob Proulx (b...@proulx.com) wrote: peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: Appears that I need to make a .Xresources file before TightVNC will work. Shouldn't need one. Can anyone recommend instructions or examples for the task? To workaround the noise create an empty file. $ touch .Xresources The transcript from the TightVNC follows. ... 09/02/11 08:45:59 Listening for VNC connections on TCP port 5901 xrdb: No such file or directory xrdb: can't open file '/home/peter/.Xresources' peter@dalton:~$ The default file created automatically by vnc (it should have stated that somewhere in all of the many lines of output noise) contains the following: #!/bin/sh xrdb $HOME/.Xresources xsetroot -solid grey #x-terminal-emulator -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title $VNCDESKTOP Desktop #x-window-manager # Fix to make GNOME work export XKL_XMODMAP_DISABLE=1 /etc/X11/Xsession That is a default because most people have a .Xresources file. It is a pretty simple and brute force default. But you can edit that file yourself. Just edit it to your preferences. They do? It's not configured by default or populated in /etc/skel. I doubt most users would go about adding one themselves. Yes, _if_ you're going to specify custom xrdb resources, that's the default place to do so, but for the bulk of the userbase, that's probably two or three levels of obscure arcana. An empty .Xresources should work just fine, but if that's required by the tightvnc (or other) package, I'd file a bug. -- Dr. Ed Morbius Chief Scientist / Robot Wrangler When you seek unlimited power Krell Power Systems Unlimited Go to Krell! signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: guidance for making a .Xresources file.
Dr. Ed Morbius wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: That is a default because most people have a .Xresources file. They do? Sorry I was definitely over generalized there. :-) An empty .Xresources should work just fine, but if that's required by the tightvnc (or other) package, I'd file a bug. I think it would be worth a wishlist bug to improve it. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: guidance for making a .Xresources file.
Chris Jones wrote: Ah, yes.. I'm unclear as to how I got to have vnc4server and tightvncserver both installed on my machine. :-) Good for testing them out! Now the problem is that I use the old, possibly deprecated, ~/.Xdefaults and I have a lot of stuff in there. Since I was in a rush and testing something unrelated, when I saw that I was gettting the wrong fonts, colors, etc. etc. I just duplicated did: cp .Xdefaults .Xresources. Seems reasonable to me. That's what gave me the idea of the empty ~/.Xresources file. Again that seems reasonable to me. But since debian systems also have tons of X system-wide resources in /etc/X11/app-defaults/*, I think I should keep that in mind, and check whether whatever vnc server I'm running is aware of those.. or maybe they're picked up by default anyway and I shouldn't worry about it. They are picked up anyway. /etc/X11/app-defaults != /etc/X11/Xresources I ranted about the many and various ways resources are provided to applications in a previous message recently. It isn't simple. And if you look through /etc/X11/Xresources/* you will probably find that you can live without those most of the time without noticing that you are missing them. So ignoring them is probably safe enough. By having an empty .Xresources and loading the empty file with xrdb you will be missing the contents of /etc/X11/Xresources but I think you can live well enough without those and not worry about it. As a user you are allowed to override that configuration. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: guidance for making a .Xresources file.
On Wed, Feb 09, 2011 at 04:32:05PM EST, Dr. Ed Morbius wrote: [..] They do? It's not configured by default or populated in /etc/skel. I doubt most users would go about adding one themselves. Trust the little beggars.. Yes, _if_ you're going to specify custom xrdb resources, that's the default place to do so, but for the bulk of the userbase, that's probably two or three levels of obscure arcana. .. drop your guard and reality ‘obscurely’ hits back and bites your ass. An empty .Xresources should work just fine, but if that's required by the tightvnc (or other) package, I'd file a bug. Odd vnc4server doesn't have this particular issue. Someone and somebody are apparently not talking... cj -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110209224812.GG4239@pavo.local
Re: .Xresources file
Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 11:03:54AM -0500 skrev Derrick 'dman' Hudson: [Branden, I'm CC-ing as not to have to send you a separate mail] I think I read somewhere that instead of a single file a directory containing files named for the program could be used. However, that didn't seem to work when I tried it. Does anyone have any pointers to docs on this? (I like the directory idea -- easier to manage) As of unstable this is not possible (or is so in a way that I missed). I have a patch which I meant to send to Branden but haven't gotten around to. I don't think that it will cause any ill effects but of course Branden will be the judge of whether it goes in or not. Have fun! /Anton -- Is fire supposed to shoot out of it like that? --- 30xfree86-common_xresources.orig2002-11-14 14:15:36.0 +0100 +++ 30xfree86-common_xresources 2002-11-14 14:20:50.0 +0100 @@ -9,7 +9,14 @@ fi if grep -qs ^allow-user-resources $OPTIONFILE; then - if [ -f $USRRESOURCES ]; then + if [ -d $USRRESOURCES ]; then +RESOURCEFILES=$(run_parts $USRRESOURCES) +if [ -n $RESOURCEFILES ]; then + for RESOURCEFILE in $RESOURCEFILES; do +xrdb -merge $RESOURCEFILE + done +fi + elif [ -f $USRRESOURCES ]; then xrdb -merge $USRRESOURCES fi fi
Re: .Xresources file
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 12:39:08AM -0500, sean finney wrote: | On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 02:31:12PM +0900, Nick Hastings wrote: | iirc, .Xresources is deprecated in favor of .Xdefaults. | | shnipo | | Hmm, I thought it was the other way around .Xdefaults deprecated... | anyway I always make one a symlink to the other. | | yeah, right you are. Do you have any sources documenting this? Using 'strace' on xterm I see that only ~/.Xdefaults and ~/.Xdefaults-$HOSTNAME are opened. I think I read somewhere that instead of a single file a directory containing files named for the program could be used. However, that didn't seem to work when I tried it. Does anyone have any pointers to docs on this? (I like the directory idea -- easier to manage) -D -- Microsoft: Windows NT 4.0 now has the same user-interface as Windows 95 Windows 95: Press CTRL-ALT-DEL to reboot Windows NT 4.0: Press CTRL-ALT-DEL to login http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/ msg17444/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: .Xresources file
Sean, I too always thought the .Xdefaults was the deprecated version. Regardless, creating the symlink definetly solved the problem. Thank you. bp From: sean finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: .Xresources file Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 00:39:08 -0500 On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 02:31:12PM +0900, Nick Hastings wrote: iirc, .Xresources is deprecated in favor of .Xdefaults. shnipo Hmm, I thought it was the other way around .Xdefaults deprecated... anyway I always make one a symlink to the other. yeah, right you are. likewise i symlink one to the other because i always seem to forget :) sean attach3 _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
.Xresources file
Hello Debian users, I just recently realized that my .Xresources file is not being run everytime I log into my account. While I can easily put this in my .bashrc file and execute it with the xrdb command, I am trying to understand what's going on here. Can anyone tell me why this doesn't get executed everytime I log into my machine? bp _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .Xresources file
* Bruce Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] [021204 13:13]:
Hello Debian users,
I just recently realized that my .Xresources file is not being run
everytime I log into my account. While I can easily put this in my .bashrc
xrdb -merge ${HOME}/.Xresources
file and execute it with the xrdb command, I am trying to understand what's
going on here. Can anyone tell me why this doesn't get executed everytime I
log into my machine?
Troll through the /etc/X11/*dm scripts and you should be able to work
out what is going on.
Try something like:
cd /etc/X11
grep -r xrdb *
Cheers,
Nick.
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Re: .Xresources file
heya, iirc, .Xresources is deprecated in favor of .Xdefaults. i had the same problem taking the .Xresources file from a solaris box and not understanding why it wasn't being applied to my debian defaults. sean On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 11:10:50PM -0500, Bruce Park wrote: Hello Debian users, I just recently realized that my .Xresources file is not being run everytime I log into my account. While I can easily put this in my .bashrc file and execute it with the xrdb command, I am trying to understand what's going on here. Can anyone tell me why this doesn't get executed everytime I log into my machine? msg16902/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: .Xresources file
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 02:31:12PM +0900, Nick Hastings wrote: iirc, .Xresources is deprecated in favor of .Xdefaults. shnipo Hmm, I thought it was the other way around .Xdefaults deprecated... anyway I always make one a symlink to the other. yeah, right you are. likewise i symlink one to the other because i always seem to forget :) sean msg16905/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
