Re: Another one
On Wed, 2019-06-12 at 08:22 +0100, Tixy wrote:
> On Tue, 2019-06-11 at 17:38 -0300, Francisco M Neto wrote:
> > I've posted another blog about my adventures with the Debian Release
> > Cycle. Or,
> > rather, how I'm hoping to estimate Buster's release date.
>
> I estimate a release date of 2019-07-06 ;-)
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2019/06/msg3.html
Yeah, Thykier completely stole my thunder there haha
I even posted another one about that:
http://fmneto.com.br/en/en/archives/2019/buster-release-the-plan/
Cheers,
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Re: Another one
On Tue, 2019-06-11 at 17:38 -0300, Francisco M Neto wrote: > I've posted another blog about my adventures with the Debian Release > Cycle. Or, > rather, how I'm hoping to estimate Buster's release date. I estimate a release date of 2019-07-06 ;-) https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2019/06/msg3.html -- Tixy
Re: Another one
On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 5:00 PM Francisco M Neto wrote: > I've posted another blog about my adventures with the Debian Release > Cycle. Or, > rather, how I'm hoping to estimate Buster's release date. > > Here's the link if you're interested: > > http://fmneto.com.br/en/en/archives/2019/forecasting-busters-release/ I got a 404 error on that. > Thanks and cheers, Francisco Kenneth Parker
Another one
I've posted another blog about my adventures with the Debian Release Cycle. Or, rather, how I'm hoping to estimate Buster's release date. Here's the link if you're interested: http://fmneto.com.br/en/en/archives/2019/forecasting-busters-release/ Thanks and cheers, Francisco -- []'s, Francisco M Neto GPG: 4096R/D692FBF0 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one?
On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 12:06:43AM -, Paul Johnson wrote: It might not have duplex printing, but one way around that, which has worked for me since high school, is find a printer with no jobs waiting, print the cover page and even number pages, flip the stack and throw it back in the paper tray and print the odd pages on the backs of the evens. You can do this with pretty much any printer, and All it needs is one page to jam and you end up with another print job headache. I remember trying that sort of thing. Usually ended up doing one sheet at a time ... a right royal pain ... especially on a network where there are possibly other users submitting print jobs. -- Chris. == -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one?
On Oct 24, 2007, at 4:48 PM, Scott Lair wrote: OK, now I'm wondering what the differences are between genuine Postscript and BR-script.and if those differences may cause trouble later on. In the past, when I've run into trouble with off-brand implementations of Postscript, it's always been when printing from Adobe software. Perhaps unsurprisingly, they tend to use features of Postscript that other people don't. Adobe products also have problems printing to PCL6 printers -- it's common, at least under Windows, to have Adobe Acrobat Reader print pages that are mirror images of what they're supposed to be on PCL6 printers. It's frustrating and comical at the same time. Using PCL5e always seemed to fix it. Note that having a real implementation of Postscript isn't always a guarantee, either -- I've had print jobs from Adobe Acrobat Reader error out with Postscript errors even on printers that supposedly had Adobe-licensed copies. I wouldn't worry about it too much. If you have trouble, you can always switch to foomatic and have it re-interpret the print job to a lower Postscript level, or send it as PCL. Your computer will have to do a little more work, but your printouts will come out fine. And you'll still have all the advantages of a networked printer. I won't even buy printers without ethernet ports anymore -- it's just so much more convenient when I can plug them into the network. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one?
Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 07:32:22PM -0400, H.S. wrote: Now, Eric mentioned memory in his post. I can understand that since sometimes the 2070N at my home takes quite a while to print a page with graphics in it (it has 16MB RAM). HL-5250DN comes with 32MB. How does that sound? It also has an empty slot to accommodate 64MB, 128MB, 256MB or 512MB (144-pin DIMM). The way I look at it is this: Ghostscript sends the printer a graphic, bitmapped with PCL 6. So, a whole page at 600x600 dpi x 8.5 x 11 = 3366 bits 3366 b / 8 b/B = 4207500 B / 1024 = 4108 KB / 1024 = 4 MB So thats 4 MB per page for the image data itself, 8 MB to hold two sides, plus whatever for control info (PCL wrapping). If it has 16 MB, it can be printing two sides while it receives the data for the next two pages. If you were to be using the built-in font system whereby you sent it plain text and it translated it into your selection of fonts that you donwload to it, that would take up a whole slew of memory. Ditto if you used built-in forms. Neither of which applies if you're just using ghostscript. Doug. I think the HL-5250DN does have postscript built in. Brother calls it BR-Script which appears to be their postscript emulation. I have an 8840DN multifunction unit and have printed to it using the foomatic/postscript driver in cups for a lexmark printer. I print the port 9100 on the printer. Maybe Br-script isn't real postscript, I really don't know. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one?
* Scott Lair [EMAIL PROTECTED] [071024 07:42]: I think the HL-5250DN does have postscript built in. Brother calls it BR-Script which appears to be their postscript emulation. I have an 8840DN multifunction unit and have printed to it using the foomatic/postscript driver in cups for a lexmark printer. I print the port 9100 on the printer. Maybe Br-script isn't real postscript, I really don't know. If the printer is a real Postscript machine, it is specified in CUPS as raw, and you don't need foomatic. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one?
Russell L. Harris wrote: * Scott Lair [EMAIL PROTECTED] [071024 07:42]: I think the HL-5250DN does have postscript built in. Brother calls it BR-Script which appears to be their postscript emulation. I have an 8840DN multifunction unit and have printed to it using the foomatic/postscript driver in cups for a lexmark printer. I print the port 9100 on the printer. Maybe Br-script isn't real postscript, I really don't know. If the printer is a real Postscript machine, it is specified in CUPS as raw, and you don't need foomatic. Just tried the raw printer - looks like it is real. Thanks for pointing that out. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one?
* Scott Lair [EMAIL PROTECTED] [071024 15:28]: Russell L. Harris wrote: * Scott Lair [EMAIL PROTECTED] [071024 07:42]: I think the HL-5250DN does have postscript built in. Brother calls it BR-Script which appears to be their postscript emulation. I have an 8840DN multifunction unit and have printed to it using the foomatic/postscript driver in cups for a lexmark printer. I print the port 9100 on the printer. Maybe Br-script isn't real postscript, I really don't know. If the printer is a real Postscript machine, it is specified in CUPS as raw, and you don't need foomatic. Just tried the raw printer - looks like it is real. Thanks for pointing that out. It likely is the case that Br-script differs from genuine Postscript sufficiently to avoid a copyright infringement suit and thus, to avoid the necessity on the part of Brother to pay Adobe for a Postscript license. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one?
Russell L. Harris wrote: Maybe Br-script isn't real postscript, I really don't know. If the printer is a real Postscript machine, it is specified in CUPS as raw, and you don't need foomatic. Just tried the raw printer - looks like it is real. Thanks for pointing that out. It likely is the case that Br-script differs from genuine Postscript sufficiently to avoid a copyright infringement suit and thus, to avoid the necessity on the part of Brother to pay Adobe for a Postscript license. Here is something interesting: http://solutions.brother.com/Library/sol/printer/color/26_34_pc_color_pcl_vs_ps.html Brother calls their BR-script driver as postscript driver. -HS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one?
H.S. wrote: Russell L. Harris wrote: Maybe Br-script isn't real postscript, I really don't know. If the printer is a real Postscript machine, it is specified in CUPS as raw, and you don't need foomatic. Just tried the raw printer - looks like it is real. Thanks for pointing that out. It likely is the case that Br-script differs from genuine Postscript sufficiently to avoid a copyright infringement suit and thus, to avoid the necessity on the part of Brother to pay Adobe for a Postscript license. Here is something interesting: http://solutions.brother.com/Library/sol/printer/color/26_34_pc_color_pcl_vs_ps.html Brother calls their BR-script driver as postscript driver. -HS OK, now I'm wondering what the differences are between genuine Postscript and BR-script.and if those differences may cause trouble later on. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one?
* Scott Lair [EMAIL PROTECTED] [071024 19:07]: H.S. wrote: Russell L. Harris wrote: Maybe Br-script isn't real postscript, I really don't know. If the printer is a real Postscript machine, it is specified in CUPS as raw, and you don't need foomatic. Just tried the raw printer - looks like it is real. Thanks for pointing that out. It likely is the case that Br-script differs from genuine Postscript sufficiently to avoid a copyright infringement suit and thus, to avoid the necessity on the part of Brother to pay Adobe for a Postscript license. Here is something interesting: http://solutions.brother.com/Library/sol/printer/color/26_34_pc_color_pcl_vs_ps.html Brother calls their BR-script driver as postscript driver. -HS OK, now I'm wondering what the differences are between genuine Postscript and BR-script.and if those differences may cause trouble later on. Forgive me for being a little stubborn here; I am trying to make the point that genuine, no-compromise Postscript machines are quite proud of the fact, and that, in all likelihood, Br-script is merely an imperfect imitation of Postscript. However, unless you are paying on the order of a hundred dollars extra for Br-script, what is the worst that can happen? As long as the Brother also emulates PCL6 or Epson, then if you happen to discover some terrible hidden flaw in Br-script, you can always use foomatic, ghostscript, and so forth. In the end, what matters most of all is that the paper-feed mechanism is reliable, and that toner cartridges remain readily available. The worst paper-feed system I ever encountered was on the cheap Hewlett-Packard laser printers in which the paper trays are vertical slots in the top of the printer. You might inquire at your local OfficeDepot or OfficeMax regarding the availability of toner cartridges. If the clerk bursts out laughing, you might reconsider your selection. RLH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one?
Hello, Anybody have experience with this printer: Brother HL-5250DN (http://www.brother-usa.com/Printer/ModelDetail.aspx?ProductID=HL5250DN). I have been asked to choose a B/W laser printer to buy for a very small office. I don't expect it to print more than around 10 pages per day. I have also been looking at HL-2070N, but duplex printing feature in HL-5250DN attracted me to it more. Any comments on its functionality from Linux? linuxprinting.org says it works pefectly. What about its durability? And, finally, any other suggestions? thanks, -HS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one?
* H.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [071023 16:14]: Hello, Anybody have experience with this printer: Brother HL-5250DN (http://www.brother-usa.com/Printer/ModelDetail.aspx?ProductID=HL5250DN). I have been asked to choose a B/W laser printer to buy for a very small office. I don't expect it to print more than around 10 pages per day. I have also been looking at HL-2070N, but duplex printing feature in HL-5250DN attracted me to it more. Any comments on its functionality from Linux? linuxprinting.org says it works pefectly. What about its durability? And, finally, any other suggestions? thanks, -HS The feature which matters above almost every other feature is Postscript. Second is a HP JetDirect ethernet interface. Sacrifice whatever else you must in order to get Postscript within your budget limitations. RLH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one?
Russell L. Harris wrote: * H.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [071023 16:14]: Hello, Anybody have experience with this printer: Brother HL-5250DN (http://www.brother-usa.com/Printer/ModelDetail.aspx?ProductID=HL5250DN). I have been asked to choose a B/W laser printer to buy for a very small office. I don't expect it to print more than around 10 pages per day. I have also been looking at HL-2070N, but duplex printing feature in HL-5250DN attracted me to it more. Any comments on its functionality from Linux? linuxprinting.org says it works pefectly. What about its durability? And, finally, any other suggestions? thanks, -HS The feature which matters above almost every other feature is Postscript. Second is a HP JetDirect ethernet interface. Sacrifice whatever else you must in order to get Postscript within your budget limitations. RLH If I under the specs of the above two printer properly, both are postscript printers: 2070N: PCL6, IBM Proprinter, Epson FX 5250DN: PCL6, BR-Script3, IBM Proprinter, Epson FX and these are the ports that they have: 2070N: 10/100 Base-TX Ethernet, Parallel, USB 5250DN: 10/100 Base-TX Ethernet, Parallel, Hi-Speed USB 2.0 I was actually looking just for the 10/100 ethernet ports to connect the printer to a switch on the little office network that we have there. How does this relate to HP JetDirect ethernet interface? And, er, what is HP JetDirect and wouldn't it exist only in HP printers? thanks, -HS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one?
* H.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [071023 17:07]: If I under the specs of the above two printer properly, both are postscript printers: 2070N: PCL6, IBM Proprinter, Epson FX 5250DN: PCL6, BR-Script3, IBM Proprinter, Epson FX and these are the ports that they have: 2070N: 10/100 Base-TX Ethernet, Parallel, USB 5250DN: 10/100 Base-TX Ethernet, Parallel, Hi-Speed USB 2.0 I was actually looking just for the 10/100 ethernet ports to connect the printer to a switch on the little office network that we have there. How does this relate to HP JetDirect ethernet interface? And, er, what is HP JetDirect and wouldn't it exist only in HP printers? thanks, -HS Forgive me; I misread your letter. The specifications you cite above do NOT indicate Postscript capability; look for the term Postscript. Postscript is a universal printer control language which is a much-preferred alternative to proprietary languages such as PCL6, etc. In general, text output in Linux is Postscript by default; numerous other printer control languages are accommodated, but sometimes the process of accomodation becomes rather involved, and doesn't always work quite right. HP JetDirect is the generic name which HP uses for its ethernet interface, which typically is a plug-in module which can vary from one printer model to the next. My point (which I did not make very well) was that a printer with Postscript capability and a built-in ethernet interface typically is well worth the price, because of the time savings which accumulate over the years. Configuring Linux for a non-Postscript printer and making a parallel- or usb-interface printer available to other machines on the LAN can be very expensive, if your time is worth anything. RLH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one?
HS, H.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ] Anybody have experience with this printer: ] Brother HL-5250DN ] http://www.brother-usa.com/Printer/ModelDetail.aspx?ProductID=HL5250DN. ] ] I have been asked to choose a B/W laser printer to buy for a very ] small office. I don't expect it to print more than around 10 pages per ] day. I have also been looking at HL-2070N, but duplex printing feature ] in HL-5250DN attracted me to it more. ] ] Any comments on its functionality from Linux? linuxprinting.org says ] it works pefectly. What about its durability? ] ] And, finally, any other suggestions? Russell L. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ] The feature which matters above almost every other feature is Post- ] Script. Second is a HP JetDirect ethernet interface. Sacrifice what- ] ever else you must in order to get PostScript within your budget limi- ] tations. Harris's suggestion is a good one; I would take it to heart. I'd also place at that high level of importance the amount of memory that the printer has. I've found it frustrating to have a printer, PostScript- capable or otherwise, not be able to print out some of my documents that have medium- or high-resolution images within them due to insufficient memory. Regards, Eric -- Eric De MUND | Ixian Systems | Jab: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/main [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 650 Castro St, #120-210 | Y!M: ead0002 ixian.com/ead/ | Mountain View, CA 94041 | ICQ: 811788 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one?
On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 05:53:00PM -0500, Russell L. Harris wrote: My point (which I did not make very well) was that a printer with Postscript capability and a built-in ethernet interface typically is well worth the price, because of the time savings which accumulate over the years. Configuring Linux for a non-Postscript printer and making a parallel- or usb-interface printer available to other machines on the LAN can be very expensive, if your time is worth anything. Takes me about half an hour if the driver for the printer is in gs-gpl or gs-esp. I use standard lpd and apsfilter. If I need fancy access control then I use LPRng. If you don't mind brining in cupsys, you can use LPRng, foomatic-printfilters, and foomatic-GUI and do the setup that way. I've never done a full CUPS-only setup; never had the need. Then, its just opening the lpr port in the server's firewall. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one?
Russell L. Harris wrote: * H.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [071023 17:07]: If I under the specs of the above two printer properly, both are postscript printers: 2070N: PCL6, IBM Proprinter, Epson FX 5250DN: PCL6, BR-Script3, IBM Proprinter, Epson FX and these are the ports that they have: 2070N: 10/100 Base-TX Ethernet, Parallel, USB 5250DN: 10/100 Base-TX Ethernet, Parallel, Hi-Speed USB 2.0 I was actually looking just for the 10/100 ethernet ports to connect the printer to a switch on the little office network that we have there. How does this relate to HP JetDirect ethernet interface? And, er, what is HP JetDirect and wouldn't it exist only in HP printers? thanks, -HS Forgive me; I misread your letter. The specifications you cite above do NOT indicate Postscript capability; look for the term Postscript. Postscript is a universal printer control language which is a much-preferred alternative to proprietary languages such as PCL6, etc. I was just now reading about PCL6 and Postscript and their relation to printers. So, as I have just discovered, printers supporting Postscript language are way more expensive than the ones I mentioned originally. The HL-5250DN is available here in Canada for $203.99 + tax. And the HL-2070N is for $171 + tax. If I look for a different printer which has a 10/100 base-TX connection and supports postscript, then the price jumps significantly! In general, text output in Linux is Postscript by default; numerous other printer control languages are accommodated, but sometimes the process of accomodation becomes rather involved, and doesn't always work quite right. HP JetDirect is the generic name which HP uses for its ethernet interface, which typically is a plug-in module which can vary from one printer model to the next. My point (which I did not make very well) was that a printer with Postscript capability and a built-in ethernet interface typically is well worth the price, because of the time savings which accumulate over the years. Configuring Linux for a non-Postscript printer and making a parallel- or usb-interface printer available to other machines on the LAN can be very expensive, if your time is worth anything. I now understand your point very well. Had there been more money available, I would definitely have recommended as PS printer supporting networking. The Brother printers above support the network. I have the HL-2070N at my home connected to a switch and used by a Debian machine, a Ubuntu machine and a Windows machine without any problems. Installing the printer in Debian was a breeze. Windows is never a problem :) I know that is not Postscript, but so far it has worked very well. So I am expecting PCL6 shouldn't be a problem with 5250DN either. Your comments, however, have clarified a few doubts I had. Thanks. regards, -HS RLH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/23/07 17:53, Russell L. Harris wrote: * H.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [071023 17:07]: If I under the specs of the above two printer properly, both are postscript printers: 2070N: PCL6, IBM Proprinter, Epson FX 5250DN: PCL6, BR-Script3, IBM Proprinter, Epson FX and these are the ports that they have: 2070N: 10/100 Base-TX Ethernet, Parallel, USB 5250DN: 10/100 Base-TX Ethernet, Parallel, Hi-Speed USB 2.0 I was actually looking just for the 10/100 ethernet ports to connect the printer to a switch on the little office network that we have there. How does this relate to HP JetDirect ethernet interface? And, er, what is HP JetDirect and wouldn't it exist only in HP printers? thanks, -HS Forgive me; I misread your letter. The specifications you cite above do NOT indicate Postscript capability; look for the term Postscript. Postscript is a universal printer control language which is a much-preferred alternative to proprietary languages such as PCL6, etc. In general, text output in Linux is Postscript by default; numerous other printer control languages are accommodated, but sometimes the process of accomodation becomes rather involved, and doesn't always work quite right. HP JetDirect is the generic name which HP uses for its ethernet interface, which typically is a plug-in module which can vary from one printer model to the next. My point (which I did not make very well) was that a printer with Postscript capability and a built-in ethernet interface typically is well worth the price, because of the time savings which accumulate over the years. Configuring Linux for a non-Postscript printer and making a parallel- or usb-interface printer available to other machines on the LAN can be very expensive, if your time is worth anything. While having a PS interpreter built into the printer is nice, it is *not* vital. The ghostscript interpreter will convert PS to PCL without blinking an eye. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHHoA0S9HxQb37XmcRAp48AJ0fmdWHgfHl27TKovv/FiKhSoGExACfV6Bb v87G8n3wr1IzNmXt6yZ4hKg= =ssJk -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one?
Ron Johnson wrote: On 10/23/07 17:53, Russell L. Harris wrote: * H.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [071023 17:07]: If I under the specs of the above two printer properly, both are postscript printers: 2070N: PCL6, IBM Proprinter, Epson FX 5250DN: PCL6, BR-Script3, IBM Proprinter, Epson FX and these are the ports that they have: 2070N: 10/100 Base-TX Ethernet, Parallel, USB 5250DN: 10/100 Base-TX Ethernet, Parallel, Hi-Speed USB 2.0 I was actually looking just for the 10/100 ethernet ports to connect the printer to a switch on the little office network that we have there. How does this relate to HP JetDirect ethernet interface? And, er, what is HP JetDirect and wouldn't it exist only in HP printers? thanks, -HS Forgive me; I misread your letter. The specifications you cite above do NOT indicate Postscript capability; look for the term Postscript. Postscript is a universal printer control language which is a much-preferred alternative to proprietary languages such as PCL6, etc. In general, text output in Linux is Postscript by default; numerous other printer control languages are accommodated, but sometimes the process of accomodation becomes rather involved, and doesn't always work quite right. HP JetDirect is the generic name which HP uses for its ethernet interface, which typically is a plug-in module which can vary from one printer model to the next. My point (which I did not make very well) was that a printer with Postscript capability and a built-in ethernet interface typically is well worth the price, because of the time savings which accumulate over the years. Configuring Linux for a non-Postscript printer and making a parallel- or usb-interface printer available to other machines on the LAN can be very expensive, if your time is worth anything. While having a PS interpreter built into the printer is nice, it is *not* vital. The ghostscript interpreter will convert PS to PCL without blinking an eye. Excellent to know that. Now, Eric mentioned memory in his post. I can understand that since sometimes the 2070N at my home takes quite a while to print a page with graphics in it (it has 16MB RAM). HL-5250DN comes with 32MB. How does that sound? It also has an empty slot to accommodate 64MB, 128MB, 256MB or 512MB (144-pin DIMM). -HS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one?
On Oct 23, 2:10 pm, H.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any comments on its functionality from Linux? linuxprinting.org says it works pefectly. What about its durability? I (and my mother) have both had pretty poor luck with the utility or long term durability of anything made by Brother that isn't a sewing machine. Almost like their name can be used in a sentence: Oh, brother, more rebadged, Chinese-built crap. And, finally, any other suggestions? I have a HP LaserJet 4+ that my girlfriend found in a dumpster in perfect working order(!) almost a decade ago. It's relatively small, quiet and fast compared to most of the business laser printers I've seen, the toner lasts forever at the print volumes you're talking about, and it's relatively cheap compared to other models when it does run out thanks to the LaserJet 4 series popularity. People like 'em so much you can actually find people who will come out and repair them at a relatively reasonable expense. How many other printers have that? :o) It might not have duplex printing, but one way around that, which has worked for me since high school, is find a printer with no jobs waiting, print the cover page and even number pages, flip the stack and throw it back in the paper tray and print the odd pages on the backs of the evens. You can do this with pretty much any printer, and you can figure out which way you need to reload the paper for the second pass with a little trial and error and a two-page document. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one?
On Oct 23, 2:30 pm, Russell L. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * H.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [071023 16:14]: Hello, Anybody have experience with this printer: Brother HL-5250DN (http://www.brother-usa.com/Printer/ModelDetail.aspx?ProductID=HL5250DN). I have been asked to choose a B/W laser printer to buy for a very small office. I don't expect it to print more than around 10 pages per day. I have also been looking at HL-2070N, but duplex printing feature in HL-5250DN attracted me to it more. Any comments on its functionality from Linux? linuxprinting.org says it works pefectly. What about its durability? And, finally, any other suggestions? thanks, -HS The feature which matters above almost every other feature is Postscript. Second is a HP JetDirect ethernet interface. Sacrifice whatever else you must in order to get Postscript within your budget limitations. Another great thing about the LaserJet 4... all are postscript, and all are JetDirect capable (and those that aren't, you can find a JetDirect daughter board for). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one?
* H.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007 Oct 23 18:07 -0500]: Russell L. Harris wrote: * H.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [071023 17:07]: If I under the specs of the above two printer properly, both are postscript printers: 2070N: PCL6, IBM Proprinter, Epson FX 5250DN: PCL6, BR-Script3, IBM Proprinter, Epson FX and these are the ports that they have: 2070N: 10/100 Base-TX Ethernet, Parallel, USB 5250DN: 10/100 Base-TX Ethernet, Parallel, Hi-Speed USB 2.0 I was actually looking just for the 10/100 ethernet ports to connect the printer to a switch on the little office network that we have there. How does this relate to HP JetDirect ethernet interface? And, er, what is HP JetDirect and wouldn't it exist only in HP printers? I have the HL5240 that I bought almost a year ago. Very nice and I'm very pleased with its performance. I have it hooked to a parallel port on my Gigafast network switch. It took a bit of doing to get configured just right, but once I found the PPD buried on Brother's website and installed it into CUPS, it prints perfectly. I am very satisfied. - Nate P.S. I know that isn't exactly an answer to your question. -- Wireless | Amateur Radio Station N0NB | Successfully Microsoft Amateur radio exams; ham radio; Linux info @ | free since January 1998. http://www.qsl.net/n0nb/ | Debian, the choice of My Kawasaki KZ-650 SR @| a GNU generation! http://www.networksplus.net/n0nb/ | http://www.debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one?
- Original Message - From: H.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 6:32 PM Subject: Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one? Ron Johnson wrote: On 10/23/07 17:53, Russell L. Harris wrote: * H.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [071023 17:07]: If I under the specs of the above two printer properly, both are postscript printers: 2070N: PCL6, IBM Proprinter, Epson FX 5250DN: PCL6, BR-Script3, IBM Proprinter, Epson FX and these are the ports that they have: 2070N: 10/100 Base-TX Ethernet, Parallel, USB 5250DN: 10/100 Base-TX Ethernet, Parallel, Hi-Speed USB 2.0 I was actually looking just for the 10/100 ethernet ports to connect the printer to a switch on the little office network that we have there. How does this relate to HP JetDirect ethernet interface? And, er, what is HP JetDirect and wouldn't it exist only in HP printers? thanks, -HS Forgive me; I misread your letter. The specifications you cite above do NOT indicate Postscript capability; look for the term Postscript. Postscript is a universal printer control language which is a much-preferred alternative to proprietary languages such as PCL6, etc. In general, text output in Linux is Postscript by default; numerous other printer control languages are accommodated, but sometimes the process of accomodation becomes rather involved, and doesn't always work quite right. HP JetDirect is the generic name which HP uses for its ethernet interface, which typically is a plug-in module which can vary from one printer model to the next. My point (which I did not make very well) was that a printer with Postscript capability and a built-in ethernet interface typically is well worth the price, because of the time savings which accumulate over the years. Configuring Linux for a non-Postscript printer and making a parallel- or usb-interface printer available to other machines on the LAN can be very expensive, if your time is worth anything. While having a PS interpreter built into the printer is nice, it is *not* vital. The ghostscript interpreter will convert PS to PCL without blinking an eye. Excellent to know that. Now, Eric mentioned memory in his post. I can understand that since sometimes the 2070N at my home takes quite a while to print a page with graphics in it (it has 16MB RAM). HL-5250DN comes with 32MB. How does that sound? It also has an empty slot to accommodate 64MB, 128MB, 256MB or 512MB (144-pin DIMM). -HS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one?
- Original Message - From: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 6:13 PM Subject: Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one? -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/23/07 17:53, Russell L. Harris wrote: * H.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [071023 17:07]: If I under the specs of the above two printer properly, both are postscript printers: 2070N: PCL6, IBM Proprinter, Epson FX 5250DN: PCL6, BR-Script3, IBM Proprinter, Epson FX and these are the ports that they have: 2070N: 10/100 Base-TX Ethernet, Parallel, USB 5250DN: 10/100 Base-TX Ethernet, Parallel, Hi-Speed USB 2.0 I was actually looking just for the 10/100 ethernet ports to connect the printer to a switch on the little office network that we have there. How does this relate to HP JetDirect ethernet interface? And, er, what is HP JetDirect and wouldn't it exist only in HP printers? thanks, -HS Forgive me; I misread your letter. The specifications you cite above do NOT indicate Postscript capability; look for the term Postscript. Postscript is a universal printer control language which is a much-preferred alternative to proprietary languages such as PCL6, etc. In general, text output in Linux is Postscript by default; numerous other printer control languages are accommodated, but sometimes the process of accomodation becomes rather involved, and doesn't always work quite right. HP JetDirect is the generic name which HP uses for its ethernet interface, which typically is a plug-in module which can vary from one printer model to the next. My point (which I did not make very well) was that a printer with Postscript capability and a built-in ethernet interface typically is well worth the price, because of the time savings which accumulate over the years. Configuring Linux for a non-Postscript printer and making a parallel- or usb-interface printer available to other machines on the LAN can be very expensive, if your time is worth anything. While having a PS interpreter built into the printer is nice, it is *not* vital. The ghostscript interpreter will convert PS to PCL without blinking an eye. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHHoA0S9HxQb37XmcRAp48AJ0fmdWHgfHl27TKovv/FiKhSoGExACfV6Bb v87G8n3wr1IzNmXt6yZ4hKg= =ssJk -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one?
- Original Message - From: H.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 6:03 PM Subject: Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one? Russell L. Harris wrote: * H.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [071023 17:07]: If I under the specs of the above two printer properly, both are postscript printers: 2070N: PCL6, IBM Proprinter, Epson FX 5250DN: PCL6, BR-Script3, IBM Proprinter, Epson FX and these are the ports that they have: 2070N: 10/100 Base-TX Ethernet, Parallel, USB 5250DN: 10/100 Base-TX Ethernet, Parallel, Hi-Speed USB 2.0 I was actually looking just for the 10/100 ethernet ports to connect the printer to a switch on the little office network that we have there. How does this relate to HP JetDirect ethernet interface? And, er, what is HP JetDirect and wouldn't it exist only in HP printers? thanks, -HS Forgive me; I misread your letter. The specifications you cite above do NOT indicate Postscript capability; look for the term Postscript. Postscript is a universal printer control language which is a much-preferred alternative to proprietary languages such as PCL6, etc. I was just now reading about PCL6 and Postscript and their relation to printers. So, as I have just discovered, printers supporting Postscript language are way more expensive than the ones I mentioned originally. The HL-5250DN is available here in Canada for $203.99 + tax. And the HL-2070N is for $171 + tax. If I look for a different printer which has a 10/100 base-TX connection and supports postscript, then the price jumps significantly! In general, text output in Linux is Postscript by default; numerous other printer control languages are accommodated, but sometimes the process of accomodation becomes rather involved, and doesn't always work quite right. HP JetDirect is the generic name which HP uses for its ethernet interface, which typically is a plug-in module which can vary from one printer model to the next. My point (which I did not make very well) was that a printer with Postscript capability and a built-in ethernet interface typically is well worth the price, because of the time savings which accumulate over the years. Configuring Linux for a non-Postscript printer and making a parallel- or usb-interface printer available to other machines on the LAN can be very expensive, if your time is worth anything. I now understand your point very well. Had there been more money available, I would definitely have recommended as PS printer supporting networking. The Brother printers above support the network. I have the HL-2070N at my home connected to a switch and used by a Debian machine, a Ubuntu machine and a Windows machine without any problems. Installing the printer in Debian was a breeze. Windows is never a problem :) I know that is not Postscript, but so far it has worked very well. So I am expecting PCL6 shouldn't be a problem with 5250DN either. Your comments, however, have clarified a few doubts I had. Thanks. regards, -HS RLH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one?
- Original Message - From: Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 6:02 PM Subject: Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one? On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 05:53:00PM -0500, Russell L. Harris wrote: My point (which I did not make very well) was that a printer with Postscript capability and a built-in ethernet interface typically is well worth the price, because of the time savings which accumulate over the years. Configuring Linux for a non-Postscript printer and making a parallel- or usb-interface printer available to other machines on the LAN can be very expensive, if your time is worth anything. Takes me about half an hour if the driver for the printer is in gs-gpl or gs-esp. I use standard lpd and apsfilter. If I need fancy access control then I use LPRng. If you don't mind brining in cupsys, you can use LPRng, foomatic-printfilters, and foomatic-GUI and do the setup that way. I've never done a full CUPS-only setup; never had the need. Then, its just opening the lpr port in the server's firewall. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one?
- Original Message - From: Eric De Mund [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 6:01 PM Subject: Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one? HS, H.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ] Anybody have experience with this printer: ] Brother HL-5250DN ] http://www.brother-usa.com/Printer/ModelDetail.aspx?ProductID=HL5250DN. ] ] I have been asked to choose a B/W laser printer to buy for a very ] small office. I don't expect it to print more than around 10 pages per ] day. I have also been looking at HL-2070N, but duplex printing feature ] in HL-5250DN attracted me to it more. ] ] Any comments on its functionality from Linux? linuxprinting.org says ] it works pefectly. What about its durability? ] ] And, finally, any other suggestions? Russell L. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ] The feature which matters above almost every other feature is Post- ] Script. Second is a HP JetDirect ethernet interface. Sacrifice what- ] ever else you must in order to get PostScript within your budget limi- ] tations. Harris's suggestion is a good one; I would take it to heart. I'd also place at that high level of importance the amount of memory that the printer has. I've found it frustrating to have a printer, PostScript- capable or otherwise, not be able to print out some of my documents that have medium- or high-resolution images within them due to insufficient memory. Regards, Eric -- Eric De MUND | Ixian Systems | Jab: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/main [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 650 Castro St, #120-210 | Y!M: ead0002 ixian.com/ead/ | Mountain View, CA 94041 | ICQ: 811788 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one?
In all your posts you made in this thread, I haven't been able find your message. I am using Icedove and there appears to be nothing but quoted text in all your post! -HS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one?
H.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, Anybody have experience with this printer: Brother HL-5250DN (http://www.brother-usa.com/Printer/ModelDetail.aspx?ProductID=HL5250DN). I have been asked to choose a B/W laser printer to buy for a very small office. I don't expect it to print more than around 10 pages per day. I have also been looking at HL-2070N, but duplex printing feature in HL-5250DN attracted me to it more. Any comments on its functionality from Linux? linuxprinting.org says it works pefectly. What about its durability? I've had the HL-5250DN for several months and have printed about 500 pages on it. I like the easy ethernet connection and the ability to print duplex. It works well with both Linux and Windows computers on my home network. It was no trouble configuring cupsys for it. It seems to require a lot of power at the beginning of a print job; it dims the lights a little. Before I used a top-loading HP Laserjet 5L. This printer, although it had some problems with loading, had a somewhat more solid feel than the Brother. I'm satisfied with the Brother. -- Hugh Lawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/23/07 18:32, H.S. wrote: [snip] Excellent to know that. Now, Eric mentioned memory in his post. I can understand that since sometimes the 2070N at my home takes quite a while to print a page with graphics in it (it has 16MB RAM). HL-5250DN comes with 32MB. How does that sound? It also has an empty slot to accommodate 64MB, 128MB, 256MB or 512MB (144-pin DIMM). Sounds perfect for a small business. If it's a generic DIMM slot, then that's even sweeter. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHHqGSS9HxQb37XmcRApL1AJ0Q9k8MrqSnYolETxJho1ADYjrAcACgtpku ZuSo2+qoMkwFj6NSpKSly34= =V9b6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: laser printer: HL-5250DN or another one?
On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 07:32:22PM -0400, H.S. wrote: Now, Eric mentioned memory in his post. I can understand that since sometimes the 2070N at my home takes quite a while to print a page with graphics in it (it has 16MB RAM). HL-5250DN comes with 32MB. How does that sound? It also has an empty slot to accommodate 64MB, 128MB, 256MB or 512MB (144-pin DIMM). The way I look at it is this: Ghostscript sends the printer a graphic, bitmapped with PCL 6. So, a whole page at 600x600 dpi x 8.5 x 11 = 3366 bits 3366 b / 8 b/B = 4207500 B / 1024 = 4108 KB / 1024 = 4 MB So thats 4 MB per page for the image data itself, 8 MB to hold two sides, plus whatever for control info (PCL wrapping). If it has 16 MB, it can be printing two sides while it receives the data for the next two pages. If you were to be using the built-in font system whereby you sent it plain text and it translated it into your selection of fonts that you donwload to it, that would take up a whole slew of memory. Ditto if you used built-in forms. Neither of which applies if you're just using ghostscript. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
razor discovery server down -- is there another one?
Hi. The razor discovery server has been down and so I cannot report any spam -- is there another one or are we out of luck? Thanks. -- John Covici [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
another one about locales
Hello again, I just forgot to mention this one: In X, I have the german keyboard layout, but on the console, I have us layout. How do I change the console one to german, too? thanks joerg -- Did you know that if you play a Windows 2000 cd backwards, you will hear the voice of Satan? That's nothing! If you play it forward, it'll install Windows 2000.
Re: How send mail one user to another/One account?
Mike wrote: wanadoo.fr is *not* the local system. I had this same problem for quite some time. So, in your /etc/exim.conf file look for the following sections and do something sorta kinda similar. # Had to comment this line out to get things to work. #qualify_domain = earthlink.net qualify_domain = localnet.here local_domains = localhost:localnet.here --- End exim.conf sections --- The localnet.here thing is what exim thinks my domain name is. And with something like this, I can still do local mail between users, and still get mail out to others on my ISP. Two changes? I made them and it doesn't look liek it's bouncing back. Will test further. Thanks a lot. Since I don't have the time now to research this further this won't affect any of the system's ability to mail the user/me? Jonathan -- Hey, I think I finally got the hang of i-
Re: How send mail one user to another/One account?
On 5 Jan 2001, Jonathan Gift [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm having trouble understanding exactly what your setup is I have one account with my ISP but have set up two users. Two users at the ISP, right? Now my SO can send me mail from MS Outlook, Is this on a LAN, or what? Does the email have to go out of your SO's system to your ISP and then to your system is what I'm trying to establish (and of course what the reverse path should be). but I can't sem to send out without it bouncing straight to me in folder with a can't find sort of msgs. Probably if you post a copy of the message then it will be more helpful, for example in identifying exactly which piece of s/w thinks your SO doesn't exist (maybe its just jealous?). Details: Original account [EMAIL PROTECTED] Added [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm using Mutt, Procmail and Fetchmail. And exim or some other MTA? There has to be a way of telling one of them to let [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail out of the system. This is what makes me wonder, you see. Does the email /have/ to go out of the system, or could you just run a pop3 server locally from where your SO could collect email with Outlook. This would be a better solution if you have networked PCs, but you could also try Post-Its :-)
Re: How send mail one user to another/One account?
Jonathan Gift wrote: Mike wrote: wanadoo.fr is *not* the local system. I had this same problem for quite some time. So, in your /etc/exim.conf file look for the following sections and do something sorta kinda similar. # Had to comment this line out to get things to work. #qualify_domain = earthlink.net qualify_domain = localnet.here local_domains = localhost:localnet.here --- End exim.conf sections --- The localnet.here thing is what exim thinks my domain name is. And with something like this, I can still do local mail between users, and still get mail out to others on my ISP. Two changes? Yup. Should be just the two I showed. I made them and it doesn't look liek it's bouncing back. Will test further. Thanks a lot. You're welcome. Since I don't have the time now to research this further this won't affect any of the system's ability to mail the user/me? Well, I've been running this way for most of a year now and everything has worked for me here. ::grin:: cron results make it to where they should without ay extra diddling in the crontab, and composing mail to a user gets there with just the username in the To line. I can't make a 100% guarantee that everything will work for you there, but AFAIK it should. -- Mike Werner KA8YSD | He that is slow to believe anything and | everything is of great understanding, '91 GS500E| for belief in one false principle is the Morgantown WV | beginning of all unwisdom. pgpWF30hZGMgo.pgp Description: PGP signature
How send mail one user to another/One account?
Hi, I'm having trouble with my ISP, so copies to me personally appreciated if I have to jump off the list again. I have one account with my ISP but have set up two users. Now my SO can send me mail from MS Outlook, but I can't sem to send out without it bouncing straight to me in folder with a can't find sort of msgs. Details: Original account [EMAIL PROTECTED] Added [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm using Mutt, Procmail and Fetchmail. There has to be a way of telling one of them to let [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail out of the system. It's obviously taking it for local mail and when it can't find the kgift acount, because tere is none, I get an error. Thanks, Jonathan -- Hey, I think I finally got the hang of i-
Re: How send mail one user to another/One account?
Jonathan Gift wrote:
Hi,
I'm having trouble with my ISP, so copies to me personally appreciated if
I have to jump off the list again.
I have one account with my ISP but have set up two users. Now my SO can
send me mail from MS Outlook, but I can't sem to send out without it
bouncing straight to me in folder with a can't find sort of msgs.
Details:
Original account [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Added [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm using Mutt, Procmail and Fetchmail. There has to be a way of telling
one of them to let [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail out of the system. It's
obviously taking it for local mail and when it can't find the kgift
acount, because tere is none, I get an error.
In this case, it's Exim that's at fault. You need to tell exim the
wanadoo.fr is *not* the local system. I had this same problem for quite
some time. So, in your /etc/exim.conf file look for the following sections
and do something sorta kinda similar.
--- Begin exim.conf sections ---
# Specify the domain you want to be added to all unqualified addresses
# here. Unqualified addresses are accepted only from local callers by
# default. See the receiver_unqualified_{hosts,nets} options if you want
# to permit unqualified addresses from remote sources. If this option is
# not set, the primary_hostname value is used for qualification.
# Had to comment this line out to get things to work.
#qualify_domain = earthlink.net
qualify_domain = localnet.here
# Specify your local domains as a colon-separated list here. If this option
# is not set (i.e. not mentioned in the configuration file), the
# qualify_recipient value is used as the only local domain. If you do not want
# to do any local deliveries, uncomment the following line, but do not supply
# any data for it. This sets local_domains to an empty string, which is not
# the same as not mentioning it at all. An empty string specifies that there
# are no local domains; not setting it at all causes the default value (the
# setting of qualify_recipient) to be used.
local_domains = localhost:localnet.here
--- End exim.conf sections ---
The localnet.here thing is what exim thinks my domain name is. And with
something like this, I can still do local mail between users, and still get
mail out to others on my ISP.
--
Mike Werner KA8YSD | He that is slow to believe anything and
| everything is of great understanding,
'91 GS500E| for belief in one false principle is the
Morgantown WV | beginning of all unwisdom.
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apt-get update problem (another one)
Hi everybody!
I've been quite happily running Debian GNU/Linux woody since a while.
But yesterday I installed large amount of new debs (I didn't update for
time reasons since july or so) and now apt-get behaves strange and I
don't know why. It has worked with the same /etc/apt/apt.conf and the
same /etc/apt/sources.list in the past. Has the sources.list syntax
changed or why does apt-get make up so strange things like
'non-us.debian.org/ftp' or 'spidermonkey.helixcode.com/http' and wants
to resolve them?
Here's what happens. I hope every information is included. If not,
please ask back:
vici:~# apt-get update
Err http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com woody/main Packages
Something wicked happend resolving 'spidermonkey.helixcode.com/http'
Err ftp://non-us.debian.org woody/non-US/main Packages
Something wicked happend resolving 'non-us.debian.org/ftp'
Err ftp://ftp.debian.org woody/main Packages
Something wicked happend resolving 'ftp.debian.org/ftp'
Err http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com woody/main Release
Something wicked happend resolving 'spidermonkey.helixcode.com/http'
Err ftp://non-us.debian.org woody/non-US/main Release
Something wicked happend resolving 'non-us.debian.org/ftp'
Err ftp://ftp.debian.org woody/main Release
Something wicked happend resolving 'ftp.debian.org/ftp'
Err ftp://non-us.debian.org woody/non-US/non-free Packages
Something wicked happend resolving 'non-us.debian.org/ftp'
Err ftp://ftp.debian.org woody/non-free Packages
Something wicked happend resolving 'ftp.debian.org/ftp'
Err ftp://non-us.debian.org woody/non-US/non-free Release
Something wicked happend resolving 'non-us.debian.org/ftp'
Err ftp://ftp.debian.org woody/non-free Release
Something wicked happend resolving 'ftp.debian.org/ftp'
Err ftp://non-us.debian.org woody/non-US/contrib Packages
Something wicked happend resolving 'non-us.debian.org/ftp'
Err ftp://ftp.debian.org woody/contrib Packages
Something wicked happend resolving 'ftp.debian.org/ftp'
Err ftp://non-us.debian.org woody/non-US/contrib Release
Something wicked happend resolving 'non-us.debian.org/ftp'
Err ftp://ftp.debian.org woody/contrib Release
Something wicked happend resolving 'ftp.debian.org/ftp'
Failed to fetch
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/binary-i386/Package
s
Something wicked happend resolving 'ftp.debian.org/ftp'
Failed to fetch
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/binary-i386/Release
Something wicked happend resolving 'ftp.debian.org/ftp'
Failed to fetch
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/non-free/binary-i386/Pac
kages
Something wicked happend resolving 'ftp.debian.org/ftp'
Failed to fetch
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/non-free/binary-i386/Rel
ease
Something wicked happend resolving 'ftp.debian.org/ftp'
Failed to fetch
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/contrib/binary-i386/Pack
ages
Something wicked happend resolving 'ftp.debian.org/ftp'
Failed to fetch
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/contrib/binary-i386/Rele
ase
Something wicked happend resolving 'ftp.debian.org/ftp'
Failed to fetch
ftp://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US/dists/woody/non-US/main/bi
nary-i386/Packages
Something wicked happend resolving 'non-us.debian.org/ftp'
Failed to fetch
ftp://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US/dists/woody/non-US/main/bi
nary-i386/Release
Something wicked happend resolving 'non-us.debian.org/ftp'
Failed to fetch
ftp://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US/dists/woody/non-US/non-fre
e/binary-i386/Packages
Something wicked happend resolving 'non-us.debian.org/ftp'
Failed to fetch
ftp://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US/dists/woody/non-US/non-fre
e/binary-i386/Release
Something wicked happend resolving 'non-us.debian.org/ftp'
Failed to fetch
ftp://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US/dists/woody/non-US/contrib
/binary-i386/Packages
Something wicked happend resolving 'non-us.debian.org/ftp'
Failed to fetch
ftp://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US/dists/woody/non-US/contrib
/binary-i386/Release
Something wicked happend resolving 'non-us.debian.org/ftp'
Failed to fetch
http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/debian/dists/woo
dy/main/binary-i386/Packages
Something wicked happend resolving 'spidermonkey.helixcode.com/http'
Failed to fetch
http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/debian/dists/woo
dy/main/binary-i386/Release
Something wicked happend resolving 'spidermonkey.helixcode.com/http'
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old
ones used
instead.
vici:~# cat /etc/apt/apt.conf
//Acquire::ftp::Proxy http://192.168.0.4:8080/;;
//Acquire::http::Proxy http://192.168.0.4:8080/;;
// Pre-configure all packages before they are installed.
// (Automatically added by debconf.)
DPkg::Pre-Install-Pkgs {/usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure --apt;};
vici:~# cat
