Re: Another try - help to fix arrow keys in X
Brian Servis wrote: *- On 3 Sep, Kent West wrote about Re: Another try - help to fix arrow keys in X snip about some keys not working in X So it looks like your keymap is all messed up. Are you running xmodmap snip If you are not modifying the defaults in any way as you stated then I can only guess that your keycodes/xfree86 file is corrupt in some way. I grepped all the files in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/keycodes for DOWN and none showed a keycode of 116 for DOWN. You might try reinstalling the xlib6g package(that contains the keycodes) and see if that fixes it. Strange, -- Brian - Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis - WHOO-HOO!!! Yee-haa! Arrow go up; arrow go down; etc etc etc. Apparently the FBDev (frame buffer device) X server (which I need for my unsupported Rage128 card) doesn't work with the XKEYBOARD extension. I uncommented the XkbdDisable line in my /etc/X11/XF86Config file and now my keys work. Man! That was a toughie! Thanks for all your help!
Re: Another try - help to fix arrow keys in X
Brian Servis wrote: *- On 3 Sep, Kent West wrote about Re: Another try - help to fix arrow keys in X Brian Servis wrote: snip about some keys not working in X So it looks like your keymap is all messed up. Are you running xmodmap or anything at the start of your xsession? Try using xev again and walking through all your keys, maybe you will see a pattern. You could also try using xkeycaps for the same purpose. Key Keycode according to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/keycodes/xfree86 --- --- Up111 98 Down 116 104 Left 113 100 Right 114 102 Ins 118 106 Del 119 107 Home 110 97 End 115 103 PgUp 112 99 PgDn 117 105 PrtScrn 107 111 SrlLck 78 78 Pause 127 110 NumLck 77 77 / 106 112 [snip] Enter 104 108 ^^^ This is what I have on my system. If you are not modifying the defaults in any way as you stated then I can only guess that your keycodes/xfree86 file is corrupt in some way. I grepped all the files in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/keycodes for DOWN and none showed a keycode of 116 for DOWN. You might try reinstalling the xlib6g package(that contains the keycodes) and see if that fixes it. Strange, -- Brian - Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis - My /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/keycodes shows the DOWN key to be 104 also. I started X with startx 2mesg.txt and then looked in msg.txt and everything looked fine: (**) XKB: keycodes: xfree86 (**) XKB: types: default (**) XKB: compat: default (**) XKB: symbols: us(pc101) (**) XKB: geometry: pc (**) XKB: model: pc104 (**) XKB: layout: us (**) XKB: keymap: xfree86(us_microsoft) (overrides other XKB settings) Yet I still have no arrow keys, etc. I tried changing the setting that specified us_microsoft to just us, and I tried commenting out that line altogether, but it didn't make a difference. I tried uninstalling/reinstalling xlib6g as mentioned, and that made no difference. Something I noticed by accident today: In the several Debian boxes that I've set up, I've never been able to start X as root; I always get a Unauthorized to connect to server type message. However, on this box I was able to start X with no problem. This may or may not be related. Also, if it matters, I had to resort to using the Frame Buffer Device video setup in order to get X to work with my unsupported Rage128 card. I wouldn't think that would matter, but I don't know. I've had so many problems getting this machine working I'm about ready to wipe the drive and start from scratch. I really don't want to do that, because Linux is not supposed to require rebuilds. (Yes, I'm blowing off steam now) Thanks for the suggestions; hopefully someone can provide me a solution before I wipe the drive.
Re: Another try - help to fix arrow keys in X
Richard E. Hawkins wrote: kent kalled, Anyone know how to fix my non-functioning arrow keys, page-up/down keys, etc in X? They work fine in the console mode. Not having these keys is pretty crippling. The first step is to use xev, which will tell you what events are happening. If you post what it tells you keys are, someone (maybe me, more likely not :) probably knows what they mean. Launch xev (in the xcontrib package), point to it's window with the mouse, and hit the problematic keys. Post the output. rick -- When I press the up arrow, these two stanzas are generated: KeyPress event, serial 21, synthetic NO, window 0x1c1, root 0x26, subw 0x0, time 9805031, (87,77), root:(253,263), state 0x0, keycode 111 (keysym 0xff61, Print), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 characters: KeyRelease event, serial 24, synthetic NO, window 0x1c1, root 0x26, subw 0x0, time 9805116, (87,77), root:(253,263), state 0x0, keycode 111 (keysym 0xff61, Print), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 characters:
Re: Another try - help to fix arrow keys in X
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Kent West wrote: Richard E. Hawkins wrote: The first step is to use xev, which will tell you what events are happening. If you post what it tells you keys are, someone (maybe me, more likely not :) probably knows what they mean. Launch xev (in the xcontrib package), point to it's window with the mouse, and hit the problematic keys. Post the output. Please keep line lengths 76 characters. See how ugly that looks above? You can hardly tell what's being quoted... When I press the up arrow, these two stanzas are generated: KeyPress event, serial 21, synthetic NO, window 0x1c1, root 0x26, subw 0x0, time 9805031, (87,77), root:(253,263), state 0x0, keycode 111 (keysym 0xff61, Print), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 characters: KeyRelease event, serial 24, synthetic NO, window 0x1c1, root 0x26, subw 0x0, time 9805116, (87,77), root:(253,263), state 0x0, keycode 111 (keysym 0xff61, Print), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 characters: The important part is keycode 111 (keysym 0xff61, Print). For some reason, your up arrow is returning the same code that my Print Screen key returns! It should probably be returning keycode 98 (keysym 0xff52, Up) instead. I wouldn't know how to fix it though... - -- finger for PGP public key. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBN88icb7M/9WKZLW5AQEx8QP9E7O75fnyOEiWGobktuvNq0rGLL7CmXF2 K6YDSBW8++kvgtmpDBUs6QTBwAjYO17OOaWDw3/dtAgBGBJ33xz47WpMIYGmbLrW owk39Z9rMGMjD3GKj2bMS30OYEj+x9BenBED53MoZvfL0LTeWhHK+AgIyq/0xbsJ i8wTYH92Lck= =O8LZ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Another try - help to fix arrow keys in X
*- On 2 Sep, Kent West wrote about Re: Another try - help to fix arrow keys in X Brian Servis wrote: *- On 23 Mar, Kent West wrote about Another try - help to fix arrow keys in X Another try Anyone know how to fix my non-functioning arrow keys, page-up/down keys, etc in X? They work fine in the console mode. Not having these keys is pretty crippling. the keys). Perhaps you have the wrong keyboard layout defined in your XF86Config file. What do you have in there under the Keyboard section? Section Keyboard ProtocolStandard AutoRepeat 500 5 LeftAlt Meta RightAltMeta ScrollLock Compose RightCtlControl XkbKeycodes xfree86 # XkbTypesdefault # XkbCompat default # XkbSymbols us(pc101) # XkbGeometry pc # XkbRulesxfree86 XkbModelpc104 XkbLayout us XkbKeymapxfree86(us) EndSection Mine for a microsoft layout keyboard is simply: Section Keyboard ProtocolStandard XkbKeymap xfree86(us_microsoft) EndSection I don't see anything really strange in yours. Try trimming it down to just the XkbKeymap. -- Brian - Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -
Re: Another try - help to fix arrow keys in X
*- On 2 Sep, Kent West wrote about Re: Another try - help to fix arrow keys in X Richard E. Hawkins wrote: kent kalled, Anyone know how to fix my non-functioning arrow keys, page-up/down keys, etc in X? They work fine in the console mode. Not having these keys is pretty crippling. The first step is to use xev, which will tell you what events are happening. If you post what it tells you keys are, someone (maybe me, more likely not :) probably knows what they mean. Launch xev (in the xcontrib package), point to it's window with the mouse, and hit the problematic keys. Post the output. rick -- When I press the up arrow, these two stanzas are generated: KeyPress event, serial 21, synthetic NO, window 0x1c1, root 0x26, subw 0x0, time 9805031, (87,77), root:(253,263), state 0x0, keycode 111 (keysym 0xff61, Print), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 characters: KeyRelease event, serial 24, synthetic NO, window 0x1c1, root 0x26, subw 0x0, time 9805116, (87,77), root:(253,263), state 0x0, keycode 111 (keysym 0xff61, Print), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 characters: For me: Up Arrow gives, KeyPress event, serial 21, synthetic NO, window 0xa01, root 0x36, subw 0xa02, time 21187561, (49,43), root:(91,139), state 0x0, keycode 98 (keysym 0xff52, Up), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 characters: KeyRelease event, serial 21, synthetic NO, window 0xa01, root 0x36, subw 0xa02, time 21187709, (49,43), root:(91,139), state 0x0, keycode 98 (keysym 0xff52, Up), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 characters: Print Screen gives, KeyPress event, serial 18, synthetic NO, window 0xa01, root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 23147644, (105,61), root:(186,695), state 0x0, keycode 111 (keysym 0xff61, Print), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 characters: KeyRelease event, serial 21, synthetic NO, window 0xa01, root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 23147753, (105,61), root:(186,695), state 0x0, keycode 111 (keysym 0xff61, Print), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 characters: So it looks like your keymap is all messed up. Are you running xmodmap or anything at the start of your xsession? Try using xev again and walking through all your keys, maybe you will see a pattern. You could also try using xkeycaps for the same purpose. -- Brian - Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -
Re: Another try - help to fix arrow keys in X
Brian Servis wrote: snip about some keys not working in X Mine for a microsoft layout keyboard is simply: Section Keyboard ProtocolStandard XkbKeymap xfree86(us_microsoft) EndSection I don't see anything really strange in yours. Try trimming it down to just the XkbKeymap. -- Brian I had to also have the Protocol line or I got an error about no keyboard device. I tried both the (us) and (us_microsoft) xkbkeymap; neither made any difference. Thanks anyway.
Re: Another try - help to fix arrow keys in X
Brian Servis wrote: snip about some keys not working in X So it looks like your keymap is all messed up. Are you running xmodmap or anything at the start of your xsession? Try using xev again and walking through all your keys, maybe you will see a pattern. You could also try using xkeycaps for the same purpose. -- Brian Key Keycode --- --- Up 111 Down116 Left113 Right 114 Ins 118 Del 119 Home110 End 115 PgUp112 PgDn117 PrtScrn 107 SrlLck 78 Pause 127 NumLck 77 / 106 *63 779 880 981 483 584 685 187 288 389 090 .91 +86 Enter 104 I don't have an .Xmodmap file in my home directory, nor do I have an .Xsession or .Xinit, etc file. I do have a .xsession-errors file and an .Xauthority file, but those are the only X-related files I see in my home directory. The /etc/X11/Xmodmap is apparently completely commented out (I'm assuming the ! character at the start of a line is a comment character). The /etc/X11/Xsession.options file only has five lines: allow-failsafe allow-user-modmap allow-user-resources allow-user-xsession use-ssh-agent The /etc/X11/Xsession file has the following lines that may/may not be relevant: optionfile=/etc/X11/Xsession.options sysmodmap=/etc/X11/Xmodmap usrmodmap=$HOME/.Xmodmap startup=$HOME/.xsession . . . if [ -x /usr/bin/X11/xmodmap ]; then if [ -f $usrresources ]' then xrdb -merge $usrresrouces fi fi if [ -x /usr/bin/X11/xmodmap ]; then if grep -qs ^allow-user-modmap $optionfile; then if [ -f $usrmodmap ]; then xmodmap $usrmodmap fi fi fi Hopefully someone can see a clue here.
Re: Another try - help to fix arrow keys in X
*- On 3 Sep, Kent West wrote about Re: Another try - help to fix arrow keys in X Brian Servis wrote: snip about some keys not working in X So it looks like your keymap is all messed up. Are you running xmodmap or anything at the start of your xsession? Try using xev again and walking through all your keys, maybe you will see a pattern. You could also try using xkeycaps for the same purpose. Key Keycode according to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/keycodes/xfree86 --- --- Up111 98 Down 116 104 Left 113 100 Right 114 102 Ins 118 106 Del 119 107 Home 110 97 End 115 103 PgUp 112 99 PgDn 117 105 PrtScrn 107 111 SrlLck 78 78 Pause 127 110 NumLck 77 77 / 106 112 [snip] Enter 104 108 ^^^ This is what I have on my system. If you are not modifying the defaults in any way as you stated then I can only guess that your keycodes/xfree86 file is corrupt in some way. I grepped all the files in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/keycodes for DOWN and none showed a keycode of 116 for DOWN. You might try reinstalling the xlib6g package(that contains the keycodes) and see if that fixes it. Strange, -- Brian - Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -
Another try - help to fix arrow keys in X
Another try Anyone know how to fix my non-functioning arrow keys, page-up/down keys, etc in X? They work fine in the console mode. Not having these keys is pretty crippling. Thanks!
Re: Another try - help to fix arrow keys in X
*- On 23 Mar, Kent West wrote about Another try - help to fix arrow keys in X Another try Anyone know how to fix my non-functioning arrow keys, page-up/down keys, etc in X? They work fine in the console mode. Not having these keys is pretty crippling. Thanks! What does xev say about them? (put the cursor over the window and hit the keys). Perhaps you have the wrong keyboard layout defined in your XF86Config file. What do you have in there under the Keyboard section? -- Brian - Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -
Re: Another try - help to fix arrow keys in X
kent kalled, Anyone know how to fix my non-functioning arrow keys, page-up/down keys, etc in X? They work fine in the console mode. Not having these keys is pretty crippling. The first step is to use xev, which will tell you what events are happening. If you post what it tells you keys are, someone (maybe me, more likely not :) probably knows what they mean. Launch xev (in the xcontrib package), point to it's window with the mouse, and hit the problematic keys. Post the output. rick --
Re: Another try - help to fix arrow keys in X
Brian Servis wrote: *- On 23 Mar, Kent West wrote about Another try - help to fix arrow keys in X Another try Anyone know how to fix my non-functioning arrow keys, page-up/down keys, etc in X? They work fine in the console mode. Not having these keys is pretty crippling. Thanks! What does xev say about them? (put the cursor over the window and hit the keys). Perhaps you have the wrong keyboard layout defined in your XF86Config file. What do you have in there under the Keyboard section? -- Brian - Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis - Now that's a nifty little program. The Event Tester window had a smaller window within it; neither the Even Tester window nor the inner window showed anything when I pressed the keys, but the xterm from which I started xev showed a lot of stuff everytime I'd move the mouse or click the mouse or click any of the keys. When I'd press the up arrow, the resulting text was a keypress event and a keyrelease event. I'd copy paste it here, but I haven't figured out how to consistently get copy paste to work; in this case it's from an xterm window to Netscape Messenger's Composer window, but that's another issue.
Re: Another try - help to fix arrow keys in X
Brian Servis wrote: *- On 23 Mar, Kent West wrote about Another try - help to fix arrow keys in X Another try Anyone know how to fix my non-functioning arrow keys, page-up/down keys, etc in X? They work fine in the console mode. Not having these keys is pretty crippling. Thanks! What does xev say about them? (put the cursor over the window and hit the keys). Perhaps you have the wrong keyboard layout defined in your XF86Config file. What do you have in there under the Keyboard section? I'm sorry; I didn't finish answering your question. Here's the keyboard section from my XF86Config file: Section Keyboard ProtocolStandard AutoRepeat 500 5 LeftAlt Meta RightAltMeta ScrollLock Compose RightCtlControl XkbKeycodes xfree86 # XkbTypesdefault # XkbCompat default # XkbSymbols us(pc101) # XkbGeometry pc # XkbRulesxfree86 XkbModelpc104 XkbLayout us XkbKeymapxfree86(us) EndSection IIRC, originally there weren't any comments in here, but I looked at another XF86Config file that didn't have those entries, so I commented them out hoping that'd make a difference. It didn't.
