Re: Booting from an SD card?

2010-06-03 Thread Marc Shapiro
 From: Alan Chandler a...@chandlerfamily.org.uk


 Have you tried the unetbootin package.  I have an little 

That may be the answer.  It now dawns on me that the only times that I have 
actually booted from the SD on an eee were to boot install media, and it was 
using unetbootin.  I will give it a try.


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Re: Booting from an SD card?

2010-06-01 Thread Alan Chandler

On 30/05/10 23:46, Marc Shapiro wrote:


Can anyone help me with this?


Have you tried the unetbootin package.  I have an little device that is 
a usb connector with a slot in the side for an sd card.  I have been 
using unetbootin to create various bootable versions of the different 
distributions out there to try something.  In particular I was doing 
this with Debian squeeze.


I then moved the result over to a small Dell Mini 12 laptop I have which 
can boot off an SD card to boot it (and once running there is an option 
to install it - but that is beyond your scope).





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Re: Booting from an SD card?

2010-06-01 Thread Andrea Ganduglia
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 12:46 AM, Marc Shapiro mshapiro...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I wanted to install Debian on my eeepc.

Recently I have successfully installed Debian on my eeepc (Surf 4GB)
following this tutorial:
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/HowTo/InstallOnSDcardOrUsbStick

Now, I'm booting Debian from USB or Xandros from HD.

It's easy and works out-the-box.

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Re: Booting from an SD card?

2010-06-01 Thread deloptes
Marc Shapiro wrote:

 My wife has an early eeepc with a 4GB SSD running Xandros.  She would like
 to change the OS so that she can install other software easily.  I have a
 newer eeepc with a 160GB HD that came with the OS that must not be named
 and now also has Eeebuntu 3.0.
 
 I wanted to install Debian on my eeepc.
 

identify your drive i.e.

sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdd
   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdd1   *   1  17  136521   83  Linux
/dev/sdd2  18972978011640   83  Linux


using the legacy version of grub you can identify the system in charge

grub find /grub/menu.lst
find /grub/menu.lst
find /grub/menu.lst
 (hd3,0)
grub root (hd3)
grub setup (hd3,0)


if /boot is on the root partition then use find /boot/grub/menu.lst

then probably you'ld fix your boot properties to use UID for boot and give a
root=UUID=... as kernel option for booting 

regards




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Re: Booting from an SD card?

2010-05-31 Thread Marc Shapiro
 From: Mark Allums m...@allums.com
 
 On 5/30/2010 5:46 PM, Marc Shapiro wrote:
 My wife has an early eeepc with a 4GB SSD running Xandros.  
She
 would like to change the OS so that she can install other 
software easily.
 I have a newer eeepc with a 160GB HD that 
came with the OS that must
 not be named and now also has Eeebuntu 3.0.


 Now, I have a 4 GB SD card that I 
want to install Lenny 
 on, just like the installation to my hard drive.  That way, my wife can try 
 it out on her eeepc WITHOUT 
MAKING ANY CHANGES TO HER HD.  I have gone 
 through the install, but can not boot from it.  I am 99% certain that it is 
 just a 
case of getting grub properly installed on the SD card.  From MY pc, 
 how do I install grub on the SD card to that Lenny can boot directly 
from the SD 
 card (on my box, or my wife's) without affecting 
the booting of my machine, or 
 needing to change anything on my 
wife's machine?


 Can anyone help me with 
 this?


  Marc Shapiro
 
 Off the top of my head, you will 
need a boot loader installed on the main drive 
 that can see the SD card.  My Eee PC can't boot off of the SD card.  It may 
 be that other models, possibly yours, can, but mine can't.

If you hold down the escape key while booting you get the option to boot from  
the hard drive, or the SD card reader.

 
If I were doing it, I might look for an 8 GB or even 16 GB SD card. 

The plan is, if she likes it, to install onto her SSD in place of the original 
Xandros installation.  Since it is only 4 GB I wanted a card of the same size 
to make sure that we could fit the OS, software and data into that amount of 
space.

 You might also 
consider a bootable USB flash drive.  Much easier to boot
 off of USB than SD.

For testing purposes, that may be true, but I would still need to get grub 
installed so that it can boot without affecting my wife's current installation 
and booting process.  She doesn't want any changes to her current system until 
she has tested the new system for herself.


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Re: Booting from an SD card?

2010-05-31 Thread Mark Allums

 My Eee PC can't boot off of the SD card.  It may
be that other models, possibly yours, can, but mine can't.


If you hold down the escape key while booting you get the option to boot from  
the hard drive, or the SD card reader.


Well, whaddayaknow, learn something new every day!







If I were doing it, I might look for an 8 GB or even 16 GB SD card.

The plan is, if she likes it, to install onto her SSD in place of the original 
Xandros installation.  Since it is only 4 GB I wanted a card of the same size 
to make sure that we could fit the OS, software and data into that amount of 
space.



I see, and you already possess the 4 GB card.



You might also

consider a bootable USB flash drive.  Much easier to boot

off of USB than SD.


For testing purposes, that may be true, but I would still need to get grub 
installed so that it can boot without affecting my wife's current installation 
and booting process.  She doesn't want any changes to her current system until 
she has tested the new system for herself.


I think that if you know the device that that USB drive is under, you 
can install GRUB to it.  On my model 1000, the SD card reader is not a 
'native' SD device from hardware stand point (all SDs are USB, sort of, 
but that is a big, tangential, topic) but appear as a USB device.  You 
need to know where it is mounted, and then cope with the drive 'moving 
around'.  The usual method is with labels and/or UUIDs, I think.


I am not sure how to install GRUB to the 'MBR' of the drive, but would 
it not be similar to that of USB flash 'thumb' drives?


I would be very interested to know this, myself, as I plan to 'hack' an 
ARM-based, embedded device soon.


Good luck.


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Re: Booting from an SD card?

2010-05-31 Thread Klaus Wolf
Hi,

last version of Knoppix ( www.knopper.net ) have the Option - after
starting from DVD - to install on an SD-card.
Perhaps this may solve your problem

best regards and a nice day

klaus


Am Sonntag, den 30.05.2010, 23:43 -0700 schrieb Marc Shapiro:
  From: Mark Allums m...@allums.com
  
  On 5/30/2010 5:46 PM, Marc Shapiro wrote:
  My wife has an early eeepc with a 4GB SSD running Xandros.  
 She
  would like to change the OS so that she can install other 
 software easily.
  I have a newer eeepc with a 160GB HD that 
 came with the OS that must
  not be named and now also has Eeebuntu 3.0.
 
 
  Now, I have a 4 GB SD card that I 
 want to install Lenny 
  on, just like the installation to my hard drive.  That way, my wife can try 
  it out on her eeepc WITHOUT 
 MAKING ANY CHANGES TO HER HD.  I have gone 
  through the install, but can not boot from it.  I am 99% certain that it is 
  just a 
 case of getting grub properly installed on the SD card.  From MY pc, 
  how do I install grub on the SD card to that Lenny can boot directly 
 from the SD 
  card (on my box, or my wife's) without affecting 
 the booting of my machine, or 
  needing to change anything on my 
 wife's machine?
 
 
  Can anyone help me with 
  this?
 
 
   Marc Shapiro
  
  Off the top of my head, you will 
 need a boot loader installed on the main drive 
  that can see the SD card.  My Eee PC can't boot off of the SD card.  It may 
  be that other models, possibly yours, can, but mine can't.
 
 If you hold down the escape key while booting you get the option to boot from 
  the hard drive, or the SD card reader.
 
  
 If I were doing it, I might look for an 8 GB or even 16 GB SD card. 
 
 The plan is, if she likes it, to install onto her SSD in place of the 
 original Xandros installation.  Since it is only 4 GB I wanted a card of the 
 same size to make sure that we could fit the OS, software and data into that 
 amount of space.
 
  You might also 
 consider a bootable USB flash drive.  Much easier to boot
  off of USB than SD.
 
 For testing purposes, that may be true, but I would still need to get grub 
 installed so that it can boot without affecting my wife's current 
 installation and booting process.  She doesn't want any changes to her 
 current system until she has tested the new system for herself.
 
 
 --  
 
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 mshapiro...@yahoo.com
 
 


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Booting from an SD card?

2010-05-30 Thread Marc Shapiro
My wife has an early eeepc with a 4GB SSD running Xandros.  She would like to 
change the OS so that she can install other software easily.  I have a newer 
eeepc with a 160GB HD that came with the OS that must not be named and now also 
has Eeebuntu 3.0.

I wanted to install Debian on my eeepc.

On mine, I installed Lenny, then upgraded to Squeeze to get the 2.6.32 kernel 
so that all of the hardware would work properly.  So far, so good.  Then, after 
a dist-upgrade, the wireless started to have problems.  I could connect 
anywhere EXCEPT at home.  Unsecured, or not, I could connect when not at home.  
My home wireless, with WEP security, would not connect.

I came across a site with with a Lenny installer but with the 2.6.32 kernel.  I 
created a 4 GB partition on my eeepc to simulate what the installation would be 
like on my wife's eeepc and how much space could be made available with only a 
4 GB SSD.  I did the install, updated grub, installed Gnome and rebooted.  
Everything worked fine, including connecting to my wireless network at home.  
Life is good.  I expect to blow away the Squeeze install that will not connect 
to my wireless, and replace it with this Lenny install.  I can do a 
dist-upgrade when Squeeze goes stable.

Now, I have a 4 GB SD card that I want to install Lenny on, just like the 
installation to my hard drive.  That way, my wife can try it out on her eeepc 
WITHOUT MAKING ANY CHANGES TO HER HD.  I have gone through the install, but can 
not boot from it.  I am 99% certain that it is just a case of getting grub 
properly installed on the SD card.  From MY pc, how do I install grub on the SD 
card to that Lenny can boot directly from the SD card (on my box, or my wife's) 
without affecting the booting of my machine, or needing to change anything on 
my wife's machine?

I expect that I will need to make changes to /etc/grub/menu.lst on my box, then 
run 'grub-install' to install grub on the SD card, and restore the original 
/etc/grub/menu.lst for my box.  I also expect that I may need to make changes 
to /etc/grub/menu.lst on the SD card.  My problem is that I hafe used LILO 
since Debian Bo (and am by NO means a bootloader guru) and I do not know what 
changes need to be made to  /etc/grub/menu.lst on either my box, or the SD 
card, to make this work.

Can anyone help me with this?

 
 Marc Shapiro
mshapiro...@yahoo.com


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Re: Booting from an SD card?

2010-05-30 Thread Mark Allums

On 5/30/2010 5:46 PM, Marc Shapiro wrote:

My wife has an early eeepc with a 4GB SSD running Xandros.  She would like to 
change the OS so that she can install other software easily.  I have a newer 
eeepc with a 160GB HD that came with the OS that must not be named and now also 
has Eeebuntu 3.0.

I wanted to install Debian on my eeepc.

On mine, I installed Lenny, then upgraded to Squeeze to get the 2.6.32 kernel 
so that all of the hardware would work properly.  So far, so good.  Then, after 
a dist-upgrade, the wireless started to have problems.  I could connect 
anywhere EXCEPT at home.  Unsecured, or not, I could connect when not at home.  
My home wireless, with WEP security, would not connect.

I came across a site with with a Lenny installer but with the 2.6.32 kernel.  I 
created a 4 GB partition on my eeepc to simulate what the installation would be 
like on my wife's eeepc and how much space could be made available with only a 
4 GB SSD.  I did the install, updated grub, installed Gnome and rebooted.  
Everything worked fine, including connecting to my wireless network at home.  
Life is good.  I expect to blow away the Squeeze install that will not connect 
to my wireless, and replace it with this Lenny install.  I can do a 
dist-upgrade when Squeeze goes stable.

Now, I have a 4 GB SD card that I want to install Lenny on, just like the 
installation to my hard drive.  That way, my wife can try it out on her eeepc 
WITHOUT MAKING ANY CHANGES TO HER HD.  I have gone through the install, but can 
not boot from it.  I am 99% certain that it is just a case of getting grub 
properly installed on the SD card.  From MY pc, how do I install grub on the SD 
card to that Lenny can boot directly from the SD card (on my box, or my wife's) 
without affecting the booting of my machine, or needing to change anything on 
my wife's machine?

I expect that I will need to make changes to /etc/grub/menu.lst on my box, then 
run 'grub-install' to install grub on the SD card, and restore the original 
/etc/grub/menu.lst for my box.  I also expect that I may need to make changes 
to /etc/grub/menu.lst on the SD card.  My problem is that I hafe used LILO 
since Debian Bo (and am by NO means a bootloader guru) and I do not know what 
changes need to be made to  /etc/grub/menu.lst on either my box, or the SD 
card, to make this work.

Can anyone help me with this?


  Marc Shapiro
mshapiro...@yahoo.com




Off the top of my head, you will need a boot loader installed on the 
main drive that can see the SD card.  My Eee PC can't boot off of the SD 
card.  It may be that other models, possibly yours, can, but mine can't.


As long as you can boot off of a CD (for installation), and GRUB/Grub2 
can see the SD card, I would guess you could make it work.


If I were doing it, I might look for an 8 GB or even 16 GB SD card. 
Look for a card with a higher speed class.


You might also consider a bootable USB flash drive.  Much easier to boot 
off of USB than SD.


MAA



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