Re: Bread (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

2007-03-31 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 08:03 +0200, Joe Hart wrote:
> Wow, I had no idea that that German company had infiltrated the US,  I
> new the Dutch company Ahold had plenty of stores under different names)
> but Aldi?  Do you have any Lidl stores around?  They are major
> competitors of Aldi in Germany and The Netherlands.

Have not seen Lidl. In fact, Aldi has 5 location here in Grand Rapids,
MI USA. There are many more within 50 miles. They have stores in many
places in the USA.
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Re: Bread (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

2007-03-30 Thread Joe Hart
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Nigel Henry wrote:
> On Friday 30 March 2007 22:43, Greg Folkert wrote:
>> On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 22:19 +0200, Joe Hart wrote:
>>> Greg Folkert wrote:
 On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 14:46 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 03/30/07 13:59, John Hasler wrote:
>> Ron Johnson writes:
>>> We buy the cheapest *whole* wheat bread at the local store that
>>> doesn't taste like crumbly cardboard.
>> See?  You're picky.
> Taste pickiness != snob pickiness.  (Although snobs like to pretend
> it is.)
>
>> Cathy Consumer buys the cheapest white bread,
>> full stop.
> Not true unless you're on a very tight budget.  Ask your wife
> whether she'd spend an extra 30 cents on bread from a brand she
> trusts.
 We buy Bread at Aldi. $0.45 a loaf or $0.15 a loaf when trying to sell
 off before tomorrow's shipment. Seem pretty much everything is that way
 at Aldi.

 The white bread is very good for "tasteless" bread. Wheat is $0.50,
 $0.15 respectively, I like the wheat better than most "branded" kind.
>>> Which country is this?  Here, Aldi doesn't ever sell bread that cheap.
>> The good ole US of 'Murica. Specifically in Grand Rapids, MI.
>>
>> And to be honest, the only thing I don't like about Aldi bread, is that
>> it isn't always the "tradition" loaf shape. Sometimes a bit deformed.
>>
>> I'll go out on a short limb and say that more than 95% of the stuff Aldi
>> carries that has direct "brand-name" equivalents, is better tasting...
>> or SUCH a great value, that the taste doesn't matter at that point. Most
>> fall in the first category. Cereal, Milk, Bread, Ground Beef, Pork
>> Chops, "frozen" burritos, Fish Sticks, Fired Potatoes, Potatoe Chips,
>> "Juice" (cranberry, Apple, Sunny D knock off orange, etc) drinks, Soda
>> pop, Vegetable oil(different kinds), shampoo, hand soap, Paper Towels,
>> Tissue, Frozen seafood, fresh vegetables, beef Steak cuts, brats,
>> sausage, yogurt, pre-made pudding, boxed stuffing, "mac and
>> cheese" ($0.29 each box and significantly better tasting than Kraft
>> equivalent) and many other products in similar shape and form.
>>
>> One product that falls into the second category:
>>
>> "Manwich" costs $1.99 in most stores(plus or minus $0.20)
>>
>> Aldi equivalent $0.29. It isn't quite as flavorful, but it still
>> tastes a might good better in comparison to plain ground beef
>> and really is only slight less tasty than "Manwich"
>>
>> I mean, since the price difference is so HUGE and the quality is mostly
>> as good or even better, why Aldi is not deluged by people from open to
>> close, I'll never know.
>> --
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> 
> Recently bought a webcam from Aldi. Reduced from 25 to 5€. It works fine 
> using 
> the ov511 driver. They had some more there at the same price, so I bought 2 
> more. Nothing like having a couple of spares.
> 
> And the breads ok too.
> 
> You don't find the usual brand names, but I have no problem with the stuff 
> they provide. It tastes ok, and all I'm trying to do is stay alive.
> 
> Nigel.
> 
> 
> 
I don't know if they sell them there, but here aldi sells computers too.

I did a little digging and they are all over the place.  A simple visit
to http:/www.aldi.com will tell you all of the countries they are in.
Quite a world player.  'Twas news to me.  Maybe I'd recognize some of
the products they sell.

I did buy a computer from them once.  It was a bargain price for a very
well designed computer.  Of course, it came with Windows.

Joe

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Re: Bread (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

2007-03-30 Thread Joe Hart
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Greg Folkert wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 22:19 +0200, Joe Hart wrote:
>> Greg Folkert wrote:
>>> On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 14:46 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
 On 03/30/07 13:59, John Hasler wrote:
> Ron Johnson writes:
>> We buy the cheapest *whole* wheat bread at the local store that doesn't
>> taste like crumbly cardboard.
> See?  You're picky.
 Taste pickiness != snob pickiness.  (Although snobs like to pretend
 it is.)

> Cathy Consumer buys the cheapest white bread, full
> stop.
 Not true unless you're on a very tight budget.  Ask your wife
 whether she'd spend an extra 30 cents on bread from a brand she trusts.
>>> We buy Bread at Aldi. $0.45 a loaf or $0.15 a loaf when trying to sell
>>> off before tomorrow's shipment. Seem pretty much everything is that way
>>> at Aldi.
>>>
>>> The white bread is very good for "tasteless" bread. Wheat is $0.50,
>>> $0.15 respectively, I like the wheat better than most "branded" kind.
>> Which country is this?  Here, Aldi doesn't ever sell bread that cheap.
> 
> The good ole US of 'Murica. Specifically in Grand Rapids, MI.
> 
> And to be honest, the only thing I don't like about Aldi bread, is that
> it isn't always the "tradition" loaf shape. Sometimes a bit deformed.
> 
> I'll go out on a short limb and say that more than 95% of the stuff Aldi
> carries that has direct "brand-name" equivalents, is better tasting...
> or SUCH a great value, that the taste doesn't matter at that point. Most
> fall in the first category. Cereal, Milk, Bread, Ground Beef, Pork
> Chops, "frozen" burritos, Fish Sticks, Fired Potatoes, Potatoe Chips,
> "Juice" (cranberry, Apple, Sunny D knock off orange, etc) drinks, Soda
> pop, Vegetable oil(different kinds), shampoo, hand soap, Paper Towels,
> Tissue, Frozen seafood, fresh vegetables, beef Steak cuts, brats,
> sausage, yogurt, pre-made pudding, boxed stuffing, "mac and
> cheese" ($0.29 each box and significantly better tasting than Kraft
> equivalent) and many other products in similar shape and form.
> 
> One product that falls into the second category:
> 
> "Manwich" costs $1.99 in most stores(plus or minus $0.20)
> 
> Aldi equivalent $0.29. It isn't quite as flavorful, but it still
> tastes a might good better in comparison to plain ground beef
> and really is only slight less tasty than "Manwich"
> 
> I mean, since the price difference is so HUGE and the quality is mostly
> as good or even better, why Aldi is not deluged by people from open to
> close, I'll never know.

Wow, I had no idea that that German company had infiltrated the US,  I
new the Dutch company Ahold had plenty of stores under different names)
but Aldi?  Do you have any Lidl stores around?  They are major
competitors of Aldi in Germany and The Netherlands.

Joe

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Re: Bread (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

2007-03-30 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto


All* rechargable AA batteries are 1.2v whilst normal AA batteries are
1.5v.



How embarrassing. I guess the battery was just broken then.
There are a lot of other arguments against Sony still.

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Re: Bread (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

2007-03-30 Thread CaT
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 06:49:35PM -0300, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote:
> quality), and I tried again. Then with a better recharger. I eventually gave
> up and put the batteries away. One year later, I looked at the batteries and
> realized why they did not work.
> They were Sony batteries. Of course they couldn't make a standard battery
> and actually compete on price/quality.
> So the battery voltage was 1.2v, even though the battery looked exactly like
> a standard AA battery.
> W. T.  F.

All* rechargable AA batteries are 1.2v whilst normal AA batteries are
1.5v.

Also see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rechargeable_battery

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Re: Bread (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

2007-03-30 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto



I'll go out on a short limb and say that more than 95% of the stuff Aldi
carries that has direct "brand-name" equivalents, is better tasting...


This reminds me of restaurants. I like the small, family food ones 10 times
better than the expensive ones. I prefer tasty food over fancy food that
tastes like crap.

This also reminds me of when I tried to convince my friend that there are
good digital cameras outside Sony. Nothing could change his mind. Not the
fact that there are a lot of famous digital camera brands besides Sony. Not
my observations that Sony does not even have a good quality record, such as
keeping their products from exploding.  Not the fact that everithing in a
Sony produt is non-standard* and the Sony parts cost you an arm and a leg. .
He (and many other friends of mine) would only accept Sony.

* Once I bought a pair of rechargeable batteries from a friend of mine. They
wouldn't work. At first I thought it was the recharger (which was low
quality), and I tried again. Then with a better recharger. I eventually gave
up and put the batteries away. One year later, I looked at the batteries and
realized why they did not work.
They were Sony batteries. Of course they couldn't make a standard battery
and actually compete on price/quality.
So the battery voltage was 1.2v, even though the battery looked exactly like
a standard AA battery.
W. T.  F.

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Re: Bread (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

2007-03-30 Thread Nigel Henry
On Friday 30 March 2007 22:43, Greg Folkert wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 22:19 +0200, Joe Hart wrote:
> > Greg Folkert wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 14:46 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > >> On 03/30/07 13:59, John Hasler wrote:
> > >>> Ron Johnson writes:
> >  We buy the cheapest *whole* wheat bread at the local store that
> >  doesn't taste like crumbly cardboard.
> > >>>
> > >>> See?  You're picky.
> > >>
> > >> Taste pickiness != snob pickiness.  (Although snobs like to pretend
> > >> it is.)
> > >>
> > >>> Cathy Consumer buys the cheapest white bread,
> > >>> full stop.
> > >>
> > >> Not true unless you're on a very tight budget.  Ask your wife
> > >> whether she'd spend an extra 30 cents on bread from a brand she
> > >> trusts.
> > >
> > > We buy Bread at Aldi. $0.45 a loaf or $0.15 a loaf when trying to sell
> > > off before tomorrow's shipment. Seem pretty much everything is that way
> > > at Aldi.
> > >
> > > The white bread is very good for "tasteless" bread. Wheat is $0.50,
> > > $0.15 respectively, I like the wheat better than most "branded" kind.
> >
> > Which country is this?  Here, Aldi doesn't ever sell bread that cheap.
>
> The good ole US of 'Murica. Specifically in Grand Rapids, MI.
>
> And to be honest, the only thing I don't like about Aldi bread, is that
> it isn't always the "tradition" loaf shape. Sometimes a bit deformed.
>
> I'll go out on a short limb and say that more than 95% of the stuff Aldi
> carries that has direct "brand-name" equivalents, is better tasting...
> or SUCH a great value, that the taste doesn't matter at that point. Most
> fall in the first category. Cereal, Milk, Bread, Ground Beef, Pork
> Chops, "frozen" burritos, Fish Sticks, Fired Potatoes, Potatoe Chips,
> "Juice" (cranberry, Apple, Sunny D knock off orange, etc) drinks, Soda
> pop, Vegetable oil(different kinds), shampoo, hand soap, Paper Towels,
> Tissue, Frozen seafood, fresh vegetables, beef Steak cuts, brats,
> sausage, yogurt, pre-made pudding, boxed stuffing, "mac and
> cheese" ($0.29 each box and significantly better tasting than Kraft
> equivalent) and many other products in similar shape and form.
>
> One product that falls into the second category:
>
> "Manwich" costs $1.99 in most stores(plus or minus $0.20)
>
> Aldi equivalent $0.29. It isn't quite as flavorful, but it still
> tastes a might good better in comparison to plain ground beef
> and really is only slight less tasty than "Manwich"
>
> I mean, since the price difference is so HUGE and the quality is mostly
> as good or even better, why Aldi is not deluged by people from open to
> close, I'll never know.
> --
> greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Recently bought a webcam from Aldi. Reduced from 25 to 5€. It works fine using 
the ov511 driver. They had some more there at the same price, so I bought 2 
more. Nothing like having a couple of spares.

And the breads ok too.

You don't find the usual brand names, but I have no problem with the stuff 
they provide. It tastes ok, and all I'm trying to do is stay alive.

Nigel.



Re: Bread (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

2007-03-30 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 03/30/07 15:52, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote:
>>
>> I mean, since the price difference is so HUGE and the quality is mostly
>> as good or even better, why Aldi is not deluged by people from open to
>> close, I'll never know.
> 
> For the same reason people want SUVs.
> For the same reason women like gold and diamond.
> For the same reason people want brand clothes.
> 
> I sometimes imagine how would I explain the human society to an alien
> 
> ET: Why do people kill each other and go to wars over this "diamond"
> substance? What is it for?
> 
> Me: Well, aside from its industrial applications, people want it for the
> precise reason that it is hard to get. If its abundance increased, people
> would cease using it.

And sparkly. Very, very sparkly.

Analogous is gold.  Very very shiny.  Which is why women like gold
more than they like platinum.

> ET: WTF!?
> 


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Re: Bread (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

2007-03-30 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 05:52:14PM -0300, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote:
> 
> ET: Why do people kill each other and go to wars over this "diamond"
> substance? What is it for?
> 
> Me: Well, aside from its industrial applications, people want it for the
> precise reason that it is hard to get. If its abundance increased, people
  ^
> would cease using it.
> 
> ET: WTF!?

Diamond is *perceived* to be hard to get.  In fact, diamond is a very
abundant stone.  It is so abundant that if DeBeers did not have a
stranglehold on the world's diamond production, it would probably be
considered only semi-precious.

There was an interesting article in IEEE Spectrum (or maybe another IEEE
magazine, though not a journal or scholarly pub) a couple of years ago
about two different guys developing different methods for lab production
of diamonds.  In both cases the diamonds were *indistinguishable* from
natural diamonds.  This scared the crap out of DeBeers.  One was
"pressured" to sell out to DeBeers.  The other had more than one attempt
on his life.  (Take a guess at who was probably behind that?)

Regards,

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Re: Bread (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

2007-03-30 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto


I mean, since the price difference is so HUGE and the quality is mostly
as good or even better, why Aldi is not deluged by people from open to
close, I'll never know.


For the same reason people want SUVs.
For the same reason women like gold and diamond.
For the same reason people want brand clothes.

I sometimes imagine how would I explain the human society to an alien

ET: Why do people kill each other and go to wars over this "diamond"
substance? What is it for?

Me: Well, aside from its industrial applications, people want it for the
precise reason that it is hard to get. If its abundance increased, people
would cease using it.

ET: WTF!?


Re: Bread (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

2007-03-30 Thread Greg Folkert
On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 22:19 +0200, Joe Hart wrote:
> Greg Folkert wrote:
> > On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 14:46 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >> On 03/30/07 13:59, John Hasler wrote:
> >>> Ron Johnson writes:
>  We buy the cheapest *whole* wheat bread at the local store that doesn't
>  taste like crumbly cardboard.
> >>> See?  You're picky.
> >> Taste pickiness != snob pickiness.  (Although snobs like to pretend
> >> it is.)
> >>
> >>> Cathy Consumer buys the cheapest white bread, full
> >>> stop.
> >> Not true unless you're on a very tight budget.  Ask your wife
> >> whether she'd spend an extra 30 cents on bread from a brand she trusts.
> > 
> > We buy Bread at Aldi. $0.45 a loaf or $0.15 a loaf when trying to sell
> > off before tomorrow's shipment. Seem pretty much everything is that way
> > at Aldi.
> > 
> > The white bread is very good for "tasteless" bread. Wheat is $0.50,
> > $0.15 respectively, I like the wheat better than most "branded" kind.
> 
> Which country is this?  Here, Aldi doesn't ever sell bread that cheap.

The good ole US of 'Murica. Specifically in Grand Rapids, MI.

And to be honest, the only thing I don't like about Aldi bread, is that
it isn't always the "tradition" loaf shape. Sometimes a bit deformed.

I'll go out on a short limb and say that more than 95% of the stuff Aldi
carries that has direct "brand-name" equivalents, is better tasting...
or SUCH a great value, that the taste doesn't matter at that point. Most
fall in the first category. Cereal, Milk, Bread, Ground Beef, Pork
Chops, "frozen" burritos, Fish Sticks, Fired Potatoes, Potatoe Chips,
"Juice" (cranberry, Apple, Sunny D knock off orange, etc) drinks, Soda
pop, Vegetable oil(different kinds), shampoo, hand soap, Paper Towels,
Tissue, Frozen seafood, fresh vegetables, beef Steak cuts, brats,
sausage, yogurt, pre-made pudding, boxed stuffing, "mac and
cheese" ($0.29 each box and significantly better tasting than Kraft
equivalent) and many other products in similar shape and form.

One product that falls into the second category:

"Manwich" costs $1.99 in most stores(plus or minus $0.20)

Aldi equivalent $0.29. It isn't quite as flavorful, but it still
tastes a might good better in comparison to plain ground beef
and really is only slight less tasty than "Manwich"

I mean, since the price difference is so HUGE and the quality is mostly
as good or even better, why Aldi is not deluged by people from open to
close, I'll never know.
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2007-03-30 Thread Joe Hart
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Greg Folkert wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 14:46 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
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>> On 03/30/07 13:59, John Hasler wrote:
>>> Ron Johnson writes:
 We buy the cheapest *whole* wheat bread at the local store that doesn't
 taste like crumbly cardboard.
>>> See?  You're picky.
>> Taste pickiness != snob pickiness.  (Although snobs like to pretend
>> it is.)
>>
>>> Cathy Consumer buys the cheapest white bread, full
>>> stop.
>> Not true unless you're on a very tight budget.  Ask your wife
>> whether she'd spend an extra 30 cents on bread from a brand she trusts.
> 
> We buy Bread at Aldi. $0.45 a loaf or $0.15 a loaf when trying to sell
> off before tomorrow's shipment. Seem pretty much everything is that way
> at Aldi.
> 
> The white bread is very good for "tasteless" bread. Wheat is $0.50,
> $0.15 respectively, I like the wheat better than most "branded" kind.

Which country is this?  Here, Aldi doesn't ever sell bread that cheap.

Joe
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