Re: cobalt qube 2

2005-02-08 Thread LJahn
 Lass es. Es lohnt nicht.
mmh, ich bin da ja noch optimistisch. Eine 20GB Platte war schon drin. Nur mit 
dem RAM...
Ich habe noch was rumliegen, aber alles nicht sehr groß.
Ich habe z.Z. einen PI 133 mit 46MB RAM als DSL Router. Den sollte er doch gut 
ersetzen.

Lars



Re: cobalt qube 2

2005-02-08 Thread Joerg Rossdeutscher
Moin,

Am Dienstag, den 08.02.2005, 22:43 +0100 schrieb LJahn:

  Lass es. Es lohnt nicht.
 mmh, ich bin da ja noch optimistisch. Eine 20GB Platte war schon drin. Nur 
 mit 
 dem RAM...
 Ich habe noch was rumliegen, aber alles nicht sehr groß.
 Ich habe z.Z. einen PI 133 mit 46MB RAM als DSL Router. Den sollte er doch 
 gut 
 ersetzen.

Ja, zum Spaß. Und dagegen will ich nix sagen. Wie gesagt, ich habe
selbst so'n Teil am rennen.

Aber für DMZ brauchst du drei Netzanschlüsse, nicht zwei. Und dafür
tut's (rettet den Regenwald) auch ein Hardware-Router ohne Festplatte
mit einem drittel der Größe.

Natürlich ist das blaue Ding mit dem grünen Auge cooler. :-)

Gruß, Ratti

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cobalt qube 2

2005-02-07 Thread LJahn
Hallo,

ich muß euch ja mit noch einer Frage nerven :)

Ich würde gerne Debian auf den Cobalt Qube installieren. Hat jemand das schon 
mal gemacht oder kennt eine Seite mit nem Bericht?
Zuerst muß ich wohl ein Image im Netz anbieten das der Qube direkt booten 
kann.

Lars



Re: cobalt qube 2

2005-02-07 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2005-02-07 12:00:36, schrieb LJahn:
 Hallo,
 
 ich muß euch ja mit noch einer Frage nerven :)

:-)

 Ich würde gerne Debian auf den Cobalt Qube installieren. Hat jemand

Ich auch...

 das schon 
 mal gemacht oder kennt eine Seite mit nem Bericht?

Also ich habe mehrere Seiten mit Google gefunden, aber
eine Installation habe ich nicht fertig gebracht.

Auf meinen Cobalt RaQ habe ich es fertig gebracht.

 Zuerst muß ich wohl ein Image im Netz anbieten das der Qube direkt
 booten 
 kann.

Nur mußte halt das Image erst mal erstellen...  :-/

 Lars

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Re: cobalt qube 2

2005-02-07 Thread LJahn
 Auf meinen Cobalt RaQ habe ich es fertig gebracht.
herzlichen Glückwunsch.

 Nur mußte halt das Image erst mal erstellen...  :-/
yep. das ist ein problem.

Meine Hoffnung:

http://www.cyrius.com/debian/cobalt/sarge.html

http://www.linux-mips.org/wiki/index.php/Cobalt

werde es demnächst mal probieren.

Lars



Re: cobalt qube 2

2005-02-07 Thread Joerg Rossdeutscher
Hallo,

Am Montag, den 07.02.2005, 12:00 +0100 schrieb LJahn:
 ich muß euch ja mit noch einer Frage nerven :)
 
 Ich würde gerne Debian auf den Cobalt Qube installieren. Hat jemand das schon 
 mal gemacht oder kennt eine Seite mit nem Bericht?
 Zuerst muß ich wohl ein Image im Netz anbieten das der Qube direkt booten 
 kann.

Ich habe das am Laufen.

Ich habe wie ein Irrer tagelang gegoogelt, verschiedene teilweise
fehlerhafte HowTos gemixt, sehr viel über die Schlechtigkeit der Welt
erfahren und es irgendwann hinbekommen. =%-)

Generische Anleitung:

Richte dir einen Bootserver ein. dhcp, nfs,...

Richte dir auf dem Bootserver ein ethereal ein. Dort kannst du
kontrollieren, was wirklich passiert, wenn nichts passiert.

Verbinde den Qube DIREKT über ein gekreuztes Kabel mit dem Bootserver.
Kein Hub dazwischen, kein Switch dazwischen! Wenn das System erstmal
installiert ist, ist das unproblematisch, aber die uralte Treiber im ROM
des Qube bringen sonst kein vernünftiges Handshaking zustande - keine
Verbindung.

Sarge ist Pflicht. Woody läuft nicht.

Du brauchst ein gedrehtes serielles Kabel, um die Bootmeldungen zu
verfolgen oder eine Konsole zu kriegen.

Last but not least: 
Lass es. Es lohnt nicht.

- Es ist ein tierischer Aufwand
- Du musst für ein aktuelles Linux eine größere Platte einbauen
- Und RAM. Aber das kriegst du nicht mehr normal gekauft.


Ich hab's zum Spaß gemacht, und ab einem bestimmten Punkt, weil ich
nicht verlieren wollte. Jetzt steht das Ding rum und ist für nix zu
gebrauchen.

Gruß, Ratti


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Debian on Cobalt Qube

2002-06-16 Thread Russell Coker
Some time ago people were asking about Debian on the Sun/Cobalt Qube.

I have just uploaded a new package to unstable - kernel-patch-2.4-cobalt, 
this is a patch for kernels 2.4.16 and 2.4.18 for the Cobalt hardware.

The 2.4.16 patch is the same as that which ships with 2.4.x Qube's (known as 
2.4.16C10), but without XFS, kdb, and kgdb.  The 2.4.18 patch is the same 
ported forward to 2.4.18 and with a ngroups patch removed because it 
conflicts with LSM.

The 2.4.18 patch has had one Oops in 2 days, which I believe to be SE Linux 
related, although the 2.4.16 kernel that Sun ships tends to Oops once or 
twice a week too...

My Qube 3 is now working fully under Debian.  All I had to do was change 
inittab to put a getty on the serial port and none on /dev/tty? devices.

The installation proceedure was to use scp to transfer a tar file containing 
a Debian archive, and then copy it onto a new partition.  The Qube can't 
select different kernels to boot (only different partitions) so you want to 
have at least two partitions having copies of Linux installed.

The kernel patch package I produced hacks the arch/i386/kernel/Makefile to 
produce a gzip compressed vmlinux file instead of a regular bzImage.  This is 
because the Qube BIOS is unable to load a bzImage format kernel.

The Qube BIOS loads the kernel from /boot/vmlinux.gz which will generally be 
a symlink to the kernel you want to boot.


NB  AFAIK Sun has never shipped a Qube or RaQ BIOS that is capable of booting 
2.4.x and 2.2.x kernels!  So if you currently have a Qube or RaQ running 
2.2.x then you can't use my kernel patch.

I would be happy to create a kernel patch package for 2.2.x kernels, but I 
have no access to the source Sun ships, and no ability to do any testing.  If 
someone wants to supply me the source and do the testing then I'll do the 
coding...

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Re: Debian on Cobalt Qube

2002-06-16 Thread Adam Heath
On Sun, 16 Jun 2002, Russell Coker wrote:

 The kernel patch package I produced hacks the arch/i386/kernel/Makefile to
 produce a gzip compressed vmlinux file instead of a regular bzImage.  This is
 because the Qube BIOS is unable to load a bzImage format kernel.

bzImage is gzip compressed.  bzImage just means the zImage can be larger,
hence b for bigger.


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Re: Debian on Cobalt Qube

2002-06-16 Thread Russell Coker
On Sun, 16 Jun 2002 21:59, Adam Heath wrote:
 On Sun, 16 Jun 2002, Russell Coker wrote:
  The kernel patch package I produced hacks the arch/i386/kernel/Makefile
  to produce a gzip compressed vmlinux file instead of a regular bzImage. 
  This is because the Qube BIOS is unable to load a bzImage format kernel.

 bzImage is gzip compressed.  bzImage just means the zImage can be larger,
 hence b for bigger.

I know that.

However a Qube needs a vmlinux file that's compressed by gzip -9 vmlinux 
which is quite different to a zImage or bzImage file.  I changed the relevant 
makefile so that you can use make-kpkg to generate packages for the Qube.

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Cobalt Qube 2 Internet server?

1999-11-18 Thread virtanen

Hi, 

is out there anybody, who has got experience on using  Cobalt Qube 2? 
(Internet server appliance using linux, apache and smb preconfigured)

We are thinking here (an educational organization, about 40 workers; 12
000 students...) to buy a www-server with easy administration tasks and
uses for intranet services and www-services. The above mentioned product
is one of the possibilities. 

For what kind of use have people used these Cobalt Cube machines? 
Problems?
Other experiences?

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Re: Cobalt Qube 2 Internet server?

1999-11-18 Thread Radim Gelner

I personally do not own CQ but what I know from debian-mips, they're using
their own, modified version of a Linux kernel. It should be available in a
source form from their homesite. They also run some mailing lists (as
mentioned at www.linux.sgi.com), maybe you should better ask there.

Radim Gelner


On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, virtanen wrote:

 
 Hi, 
 
 is out there anybody, who has got experience on using  Cobalt Qube 2? 
 (Internet server appliance using linux, apache and smb preconfigured)
 
 We are thinking here (an educational organization, about 40 workers; 12
 000 students...) to buy a www-server with easy administration tasks and
 uses for intranet services and www-services. The above mentioned product
 is one of the possibilities. 
 
 For what kind of use have people used these Cobalt Cube machines? 
 Problems?
 Other experiences?
 
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Re: Cobalt Qube 2 Internet server?

1999-11-18 Thread aphro
Cobalt is moving away from MIPS and to a K6-2 350 i believe? so it should
be just like any other PC just a small physical size.

nate


On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, virtanen wrote:

hvirta 
hvirta Hi, 
hvirta 
hvirta is out there anybody, who has got experience on using  Cobalt Qube 2? 
hvirta (Internet server appliance using linux, apache and smb preconfigured)
hvirta 
hvirta We are thinking here (an educational organization, about 40 workers; 12
hvirta 000 students...) to buy a www-server with easy administration tasks and
hvirta uses for intranet services and www-services. The above mentioned product
hvirta is one of the possibilities. 
hvirta 
hvirta For what kind of use have people used these Cobalt Cube machines? 
hvirta Problems?
hvirta Other experiences?
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Cobalt Qube

1999-05-05 Thread G. Crimp
Anyone know anything about the Cobalt Qube.  I have someone asking
me questions about setting up a Linux environment for himself (diskless,
fanless box, remember ?).  He specifically asked me about the Qube.

There are a couple of things that I can't answer on my own.  The
specs on the web say it is tuned as a web server.  I wonder 

a) if that would have serious consequences if it's prime use was
general purpose, rather than web serving;
b) how easy it would be to put other apps and servers on the box for
general purpose use.


I'm also wondering about mixing architechtures.  This guy wants to
sit in front of a quiet diskless box at his desk (not entirely solved yet)
that runs all apps across the net from another box (the Qube, maybe) sitting
in another room.  If you have a ix86 diskless box on the desk, is it going
to be able to run apps served from a RISC port of Linux ?  Could one put x86
binaries onto the RISC harddrive and have them served to the diskless box ?

Thanks alot everyone.

Gerald


Re: Cobalt Qube

1999-05-05 Thread Sergey V Kovalyov


On Tue, 4 May 1999, G. Crimp wrote:

   I'm also wondering about mixing architechtures.  This guy wants to
 sit in front of a quiet diskless box at his desk (not entirely solved yet)

Why not just keep the existing Sun box and just use it as X-terminal. You
can either keep Solaris or install Linux on it.

 that runs all apps across the net from another box (the Qube, maybe) sitting
 in another room. 

You'd probably want something more powerful here.

 If you have a ix86 diskless box on the desk, is it going
 to be able to run apps served from a RISC port of Linux ?

What you mean served ? You can run applications on RISC and display them
on your local worstation. Any architecture.

 Could one put x86
 binaries onto the RISC harddrive and have them served to the diskless box ?

Sure. Put them in a separate directory , export it via NFS.

Sergey.


Re: Cobalt Qube

1999-05-05 Thread Ben Messinger
G. Crimp wrote:
 
 Anyone know anything about the Cobalt Qube.  I have someone asking
 me questions about setting up a Linux environment for himself (diskless,
 fanless box, remember ?).  He specifically asked me about the Qube.
 

My ISP has one. They love it (they showed it off to me last month). It
will run something like 500 virtual hosts, and is blazingly fast. It is
not a Linux box that happens to be running a web server. It is the other
way around -- It is designed _specifically_ as a web server and that is
all it does. Trying to use it as a desktop-application server would be
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RE: Cobalt Qube

1999-05-05 Thread Shaleh
Qube:

small
pretty
geek drool

*NO* vid card PERIOD
a slow mips processor (over priced for the hardware)
closed box
a net appliance not a workstation

my opinions of course, but I have seen, help and used one.

The Qube is a pretty box that people can plug into their networks and server
web pages or e-mail w/o using a M$ OS or spending LOTS of money.


Re: Cobalt Qube

1999-05-05 Thread G. Crimp
On Tue, May 04, 1999 at 10:22:21PM -0400, Sergey V Kovalyov wrote:
 
 
 On Tue, 4 May 1999, G. Crimp wrote:
 
  I'm also wondering about mixing architechtures.  This guy wants to
  sit in front of a quiet diskless box at his desk (not entirely solved yet)
 
 Why not just keep the existing Sun box and just use it as X-terminal. You
 can either keep Solaris or install Linux on it.
 
  that runs all apps across the net from another box (the Qube, maybe) sitting
  in another room. 
 
 You'd probably want something more powerful here.
 
  If you have a ix86 diskless box on the desk, is it going
  to be able to run apps served from a RISC port of Linux ?
 
 What you mean served ? You can run applications on RISC and display them
 on your local worstation. Any architecture.
 

I guess I am not too sure of what the various networking
possibilities are, nor how they work.  He currently runs a diskless box.  I
suggested he could just buy a used x-terminal and put the Linux box in
another room.  That's when I found out he was running a diskless sparc
booting off the network.  He pointed out it had it's own RAM and cpu.  From
that and my own brief reading of diskless boots over a network, that the
local work station does more than just act as a display.  Rather than having
many users sharing cpu cycles on the central box, everyone, including the
diskless ones just got the apps remotely and did the actual processing on
their own cpu using their own memory.  So by served, I guess I meant
getting the code off the remote disk, but running it locally.  Gee, I guess
that means that swap must me done over the net as well.  Doesn't sound good.

Maybe I need some straightening out on the basic concepts involved here.

Gerald



  Could one put x86
  binaries onto the RISC harddrive and have them served to the diskless box ?
 
 Sure. Put them in a separate directory , export it via NFS.
 
 Sergey.
 
 


Re: Cobalt Qube

1999-05-05 Thread Greg Vence
Ok, gotta ask...

Now that you've had the NetWinder a while, what do you think of it as a
possible workstation?

Shaleh wrote:
 
 Qube:
 
 small
 pretty
 geek drool
 
 *NO* vid card PERIOD
 a slow mips processor (over priced for the hardware)
 closed box
 a net appliance not a workstation