Re: cobalt qube 2
Lass es. Es lohnt nicht. mmh, ich bin da ja noch optimistisch. Eine 20GB Platte war schon drin. Nur mit dem RAM... Ich habe noch was rumliegen, aber alles nicht sehr groß. Ich habe z.Z. einen PI 133 mit 46MB RAM als DSL Router. Den sollte er doch gut ersetzen. Lars
Re: cobalt qube 2
Moin, Am Dienstag, den 08.02.2005, 22:43 +0100 schrieb LJahn: Lass es. Es lohnt nicht. mmh, ich bin da ja noch optimistisch. Eine 20GB Platte war schon drin. Nur mit dem RAM... Ich habe noch was rumliegen, aber alles nicht sehr groß. Ich habe z.Z. einen PI 133 mit 46MB RAM als DSL Router. Den sollte er doch gut ersetzen. Ja, zum Spaß. Und dagegen will ich nix sagen. Wie gesagt, ich habe selbst so'n Teil am rennen. Aber für DMZ brauchst du drei Netzanschlüsse, nicht zwei. Und dafür tut's (rettet den Regenwald) auch ein Hardware-Router ohne Festplatte mit einem drittel der Größe. Natürlich ist das blaue Ding mit dem grünen Auge cooler. :-) Gruß, Ratti -- -o) fontlinge | Fontmanagement for Linux | Schriftenverwaltung in Linux /\\ http://freshmeat.net/projects/fontlinge/ _\_V http://www.gesindel.de https://sourceforge.net/projects/fontlinge/ signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil
cobalt qube 2
Hallo, ich muß euch ja mit noch einer Frage nerven :) Ich würde gerne Debian auf den Cobalt Qube installieren. Hat jemand das schon mal gemacht oder kennt eine Seite mit nem Bericht? Zuerst muß ich wohl ein Image im Netz anbieten das der Qube direkt booten kann. Lars
Re: cobalt qube 2
Am 2005-02-07 12:00:36, schrieb LJahn: Hallo, ich muß euch ja mit noch einer Frage nerven :) :-) Ich würde gerne Debian auf den Cobalt Qube installieren. Hat jemand Ich auch... das schon mal gemacht oder kennt eine Seite mit nem Bericht? Also ich habe mehrere Seiten mit Google gefunden, aber eine Installation habe ich nicht fertig gebracht. Auf meinen Cobalt RaQ habe ich es fertig gebracht. Zuerst muß ich wohl ein Image im Netz anbieten das der Qube direkt booten kann. Nur mußte halt das Image erst mal erstellen... :-/ Lars Greetings Michelle -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSM LinuxMichi 0033/3/8845235667100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) signature.pgp Description: Digital signature
Re: cobalt qube 2
Auf meinen Cobalt RaQ habe ich es fertig gebracht. herzlichen Glückwunsch. Nur mußte halt das Image erst mal erstellen... :-/ yep. das ist ein problem. Meine Hoffnung: http://www.cyrius.com/debian/cobalt/sarge.html http://www.linux-mips.org/wiki/index.php/Cobalt werde es demnächst mal probieren. Lars
Re: cobalt qube 2
Hallo, Am Montag, den 07.02.2005, 12:00 +0100 schrieb LJahn: ich muß euch ja mit noch einer Frage nerven :) Ich würde gerne Debian auf den Cobalt Qube installieren. Hat jemand das schon mal gemacht oder kennt eine Seite mit nem Bericht? Zuerst muß ich wohl ein Image im Netz anbieten das der Qube direkt booten kann. Ich habe das am Laufen. Ich habe wie ein Irrer tagelang gegoogelt, verschiedene teilweise fehlerhafte HowTos gemixt, sehr viel über die Schlechtigkeit der Welt erfahren und es irgendwann hinbekommen. =%-) Generische Anleitung: Richte dir einen Bootserver ein. dhcp, nfs,... Richte dir auf dem Bootserver ein ethereal ein. Dort kannst du kontrollieren, was wirklich passiert, wenn nichts passiert. Verbinde den Qube DIREKT über ein gekreuztes Kabel mit dem Bootserver. Kein Hub dazwischen, kein Switch dazwischen! Wenn das System erstmal installiert ist, ist das unproblematisch, aber die uralte Treiber im ROM des Qube bringen sonst kein vernünftiges Handshaking zustande - keine Verbindung. Sarge ist Pflicht. Woody läuft nicht. Du brauchst ein gedrehtes serielles Kabel, um die Bootmeldungen zu verfolgen oder eine Konsole zu kriegen. Last but not least: Lass es. Es lohnt nicht. - Es ist ein tierischer Aufwand - Du musst für ein aktuelles Linux eine größere Platte einbauen - Und RAM. Aber das kriegst du nicht mehr normal gekauft. Ich hab's zum Spaß gemacht, und ab einem bestimmten Punkt, weil ich nicht verlieren wollte. Jetzt steht das Ding rum und ist für nix zu gebrauchen. Gruß, Ratti -- -o) fontlinge | Fontmanagement for Linux | Schriftenverwaltung in Linux /\\ http://freshmeat.net/projects/fontlinge/ _\_V http://www.gesindel.de https://sourceforge.net/projects/fontlinge/ signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil
Debian on Cobalt Qube
Some time ago people were asking about Debian on the Sun/Cobalt Qube. I have just uploaded a new package to unstable - kernel-patch-2.4-cobalt, this is a patch for kernels 2.4.16 and 2.4.18 for the Cobalt hardware. The 2.4.16 patch is the same as that which ships with 2.4.x Qube's (known as 2.4.16C10), but without XFS, kdb, and kgdb. The 2.4.18 patch is the same ported forward to 2.4.18 and with a ngroups patch removed because it conflicts with LSM. The 2.4.18 patch has had one Oops in 2 days, which I believe to be SE Linux related, although the 2.4.16 kernel that Sun ships tends to Oops once or twice a week too... My Qube 3 is now working fully under Debian. All I had to do was change inittab to put a getty on the serial port and none on /dev/tty? devices. The installation proceedure was to use scp to transfer a tar file containing a Debian archive, and then copy it onto a new partition. The Qube can't select different kernels to boot (only different partitions) so you want to have at least two partitions having copies of Linux installed. The kernel patch package I produced hacks the arch/i386/kernel/Makefile to produce a gzip compressed vmlinux file instead of a regular bzImage. This is because the Qube BIOS is unable to load a bzImage format kernel. The Qube BIOS loads the kernel from /boot/vmlinux.gz which will generally be a symlink to the kernel you want to boot. NB AFAIK Sun has never shipped a Qube or RaQ BIOS that is capable of booting 2.4.x and 2.2.x kernels! So if you currently have a Qube or RaQ running 2.2.x then you can't use my kernel patch. I would be happy to create a kernel patch package for 2.2.x kernels, but I have no access to the source Sun ships, and no ability to do any testing. If someone wants to supply me the source and do the testing then I'll do the coding... -- I do not get viruses because I do not use MS software. If you use Outlook then please do not put my email address in your address-book so that WHEN you get a virus it won't use my address in the From field. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian on Cobalt Qube
On Sun, 16 Jun 2002, Russell Coker wrote: The kernel patch package I produced hacks the arch/i386/kernel/Makefile to produce a gzip compressed vmlinux file instead of a regular bzImage. This is because the Qube BIOS is unable to load a bzImage format kernel. bzImage is gzip compressed. bzImage just means the zImage can be larger, hence b for bigger. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian on Cobalt Qube
On Sun, 16 Jun 2002 21:59, Adam Heath wrote: On Sun, 16 Jun 2002, Russell Coker wrote: The kernel patch package I produced hacks the arch/i386/kernel/Makefile to produce a gzip compressed vmlinux file instead of a regular bzImage. This is because the Qube BIOS is unable to load a bzImage format kernel. bzImage is gzip compressed. bzImage just means the zImage can be larger, hence b for bigger. I know that. However a Qube needs a vmlinux file that's compressed by gzip -9 vmlinux which is quite different to a zImage or bzImage file. I changed the relevant makefile so that you can use make-kpkg to generate packages for the Qube. -- I do not get viruses because I do not use MS software. If you use Outlook then please do not put my email address in your address-book so that WHEN you get a virus it won't use my address in the From field. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cobalt Qube 2 Internet server?
Hi, is out there anybody, who has got experience on using Cobalt Qube 2? (Internet server appliance using linux, apache and smb preconfigured) We are thinking here (an educational organization, about 40 workers; 12 000 students...) to buy a www-server with easy administration tasks and uses for intranet services and www-services. The above mentioned product is one of the possibilities. For what kind of use have people used these Cobalt Cube machines? Problems? Other experiences? [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cobalt Qube 2 Internet server?
I personally do not own CQ but what I know from debian-mips, they're using their own, modified version of a Linux kernel. It should be available in a source form from their homesite. They also run some mailing lists (as mentioned at www.linux.sgi.com), maybe you should better ask there. Radim Gelner On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, virtanen wrote: Hi, is out there anybody, who has got experience on using Cobalt Qube 2? (Internet server appliance using linux, apache and smb preconfigured) We are thinking here (an educational organization, about 40 workers; 12 000 students...) to buy a www-server with easy administration tasks and uses for intranet services and www-services. The above mentioned product is one of the possibilities. For what kind of use have people used these Cobalt Cube machines? Problems? Other experiences? [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Cobalt Qube 2 Internet server?
Cobalt is moving away from MIPS and to a K6-2 350 i believe? so it should be just like any other PC just a small physical size. nate On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, virtanen wrote: hvirta hvirta Hi, hvirta hvirta is out there anybody, who has got experience on using Cobalt Qube 2? hvirta (Internet server appliance using linux, apache and smb preconfigured) hvirta hvirta We are thinking here (an educational organization, about 40 workers; 12 hvirta 000 students...) to buy a www-server with easy administration tasks and hvirta uses for intranet services and www-services. The above mentioned product hvirta is one of the possibilities. hvirta hvirta For what kind of use have people used these Cobalt Cube machines? hvirta Problems? hvirta Other experiences? hvirta hvirta [EMAIL PROTECTED] hvirta hvirta hvirta -- hvirta Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null hvirta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ Everett, WA 425-348-7336http://www.linuxpowered.net/ Powered By:http://comedy.aphroland.org/ Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMPhttp://yahoo.aphroland.org/ -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- 7:04am up 90 days, 18:38, 1 user, load average: 2.12, 1.92, 1.84
Cobalt Qube
Anyone know anything about the Cobalt Qube. I have someone asking me questions about setting up a Linux environment for himself (diskless, fanless box, remember ?). He specifically asked me about the Qube. There are a couple of things that I can't answer on my own. The specs on the web say it is tuned as a web server. I wonder a) if that would have serious consequences if it's prime use was general purpose, rather than web serving; b) how easy it would be to put other apps and servers on the box for general purpose use. I'm also wondering about mixing architechtures. This guy wants to sit in front of a quiet diskless box at his desk (not entirely solved yet) that runs all apps across the net from another box (the Qube, maybe) sitting in another room. If you have a ix86 diskless box on the desk, is it going to be able to run apps served from a RISC port of Linux ? Could one put x86 binaries onto the RISC harddrive and have them served to the diskless box ? Thanks alot everyone. Gerald
Re: Cobalt Qube
On Tue, 4 May 1999, G. Crimp wrote: I'm also wondering about mixing architechtures. This guy wants to sit in front of a quiet diskless box at his desk (not entirely solved yet) Why not just keep the existing Sun box and just use it as X-terminal. You can either keep Solaris or install Linux on it. that runs all apps across the net from another box (the Qube, maybe) sitting in another room. You'd probably want something more powerful here. If you have a ix86 diskless box on the desk, is it going to be able to run apps served from a RISC port of Linux ? What you mean served ? You can run applications on RISC and display them on your local worstation. Any architecture. Could one put x86 binaries onto the RISC harddrive and have them served to the diskless box ? Sure. Put them in a separate directory , export it via NFS. Sergey.
Re: Cobalt Qube
G. Crimp wrote: Anyone know anything about the Cobalt Qube. I have someone asking me questions about setting up a Linux environment for himself (diskless, fanless box, remember ?). He specifically asked me about the Qube. My ISP has one. They love it (they showed it off to me last month). It will run something like 500 virtual hosts, and is blazingly fast. It is not a Linux box that happens to be running a web server. It is the other way around -- It is designed _specifically_ as a web server and that is all it does. Trying to use it as a desktop-application server would be well beyond it's design scope. -- --- Ben Messinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Only dead fish go with the flow. Use Debian/GNU Linux. ---
RE: Cobalt Qube
Qube: small pretty geek drool *NO* vid card PERIOD a slow mips processor (over priced for the hardware) closed box a net appliance not a workstation my opinions of course, but I have seen, help and used one. The Qube is a pretty box that people can plug into their networks and server web pages or e-mail w/o using a M$ OS or spending LOTS of money.
Re: Cobalt Qube
On Tue, May 04, 1999 at 10:22:21PM -0400, Sergey V Kovalyov wrote: On Tue, 4 May 1999, G. Crimp wrote: I'm also wondering about mixing architechtures. This guy wants to sit in front of a quiet diskless box at his desk (not entirely solved yet) Why not just keep the existing Sun box and just use it as X-terminal. You can either keep Solaris or install Linux on it. that runs all apps across the net from another box (the Qube, maybe) sitting in another room. You'd probably want something more powerful here. If you have a ix86 diskless box on the desk, is it going to be able to run apps served from a RISC port of Linux ? What you mean served ? You can run applications on RISC and display them on your local worstation. Any architecture. I guess I am not too sure of what the various networking possibilities are, nor how they work. He currently runs a diskless box. I suggested he could just buy a used x-terminal and put the Linux box in another room. That's when I found out he was running a diskless sparc booting off the network. He pointed out it had it's own RAM and cpu. From that and my own brief reading of diskless boots over a network, that the local work station does more than just act as a display. Rather than having many users sharing cpu cycles on the central box, everyone, including the diskless ones just got the apps remotely and did the actual processing on their own cpu using their own memory. So by served, I guess I meant getting the code off the remote disk, but running it locally. Gee, I guess that means that swap must me done over the net as well. Doesn't sound good. Maybe I need some straightening out on the basic concepts involved here. Gerald Could one put x86 binaries onto the RISC harddrive and have them served to the diskless box ? Sure. Put them in a separate directory , export it via NFS. Sergey.
Re: Cobalt Qube
Ok, gotta ask... Now that you've had the NetWinder a while, what do you think of it as a possible workstation? Shaleh wrote: Qube: small pretty geek drool *NO* vid card PERIOD a slow mips processor (over priced for the hardware) closed box a net appliance not a workstation