Re: finger causing kernel seg fault

[Ralph Aichinger]

On Fri, 2024-03-15 at 09:12 +, Michael Grant wrote:
> I use tmux on my server.  tmux creates multiple pttys.  When I run
> finger, I see an error like this:
> 
> $ finger
> finger: /dev//pts/6: No such file or directory
> 
> and in the log, I see:
> 
> /var/log/syslog:Mar 15 05:06:18 strange kernel: [2740248.159942]
> finger[1987858]: segfault at 1c ip 55b1c20baad5 sp


I had similar problems in my Raspberry Pi running native Debian arm64,
I have filed this bug about it:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1018879

/ralph

finger causing kernel seg fault

[Michael Grant]

I use tmux on my server.  tmux creates multiple pttys.  When I run 
finger, I see an error like this:


$ finger
finger: /dev//pts/6: No such file or directory

and in the log, I see:

/var/log/syslog:Mar 15 05:06:18 strange kernel: [2740248.159942] 
finger[1987858]: segfault at 1c ip 55b1c20baad5 sp 7ffc8878b8b0 
error 4 in finger[55b1c20b9000+3000] likely on CPU 1 (core 1, socket 0)
/var/log/syslog:Mar 15 05:06:18 strange kernel: [2740248.161979] Code: 
7b 20 00 0f 85 cc fe ff ff 31 c0 48 8d 3d 80 18 00 00 e8 7e 0f 00 00 83 
7b 08 01 0f 85 d0 fe ff ff 48 8d 7b 18 e8 8b e8 ff ff <8b> 70 1c 85 f6 
0f 85 d0 00 00 00 8b 70 08 8b 50 04 85 f6 0f 85 f2


I do not see pts/6 being used:

$ w
 04:56:14 up 31 days, 17:01,  6 users,  load average: 0.68, 0.20, 0.06
USER TTY  FROM   LOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU WHAT
mgrant   pts/01.2.3.4Tue127:53m  0.32s  0.32s -tcsh
mgrant   pts/11.2.3.403:573.00s  0.03s  0.03s tmux 
attach

mgrant   pts/2tmux(1243630).%0   02Mar24  3.00s  0.18s  0.01s w
mgrant   pts/3tmux(1243630).%1   02Mar24 12days 29.02s 29.02s emacs
mgrant   pts/4tmux(1243630).%2   04Mar24 32:52m  0.05s  0.05s -bash

w reports one more user than there seems to be in the utmp.  I didn't 
close a tmux window but i have disconnected and reconnected several 
times.  If I start enough tmux windows and one happens to end up on the 
missing pts, the error goes away.  I'm not sure if this is a bug in 
finger, tmux, or something that manages the utmp getting out of sync.  
Any ideas what to do about this?


Michael Grant

finger segfaults

[Michael Grant]

I'm seeing many of these in my log as we use the 'finger' program
(which essentially prints out who's logged in):

/var/log/syslog:Jan 21 17:24:02 hostname kernel: [994887.868396] Code: 7b 20 00 
0f 85 cc fe ff ff 31 c0 48 8d 3d 80 18 00 00 e8 7e 0f 00 00 83 7b 08 01 0f 85 
d0 fe ff ff 48 8d 7b 18 e8 8b e8 ff ff <8b> 70 1c 85 f6 0f 85 d0 00 00 00 8b 70 
08 8b 50 04 85 f6 0f 85 f2 
/var/log/syslog:Jan 21 17:46:20 hostname kernel: [996225.511633] 
finger[535517]: segfault at 1c ip 55c42a3ccad5 sp 7ffd268c28b0 error 4 
in finger[55c42a3cb000+3000] likely on CPU 0 (core 0, socket 0) 

It doesn't happen all the time.  It seems to be linked to tmux where
tmux but I wouldn't swear to it.  


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context menu closed after release finger on a touchscreen

[张宏宏]

Hi,
I encountered an issue with nautilus on Debian 11,
Steps to reproduce:
1. Connect a touchscreen.
2. Launch nautilus, switch to icon mode, and select an item.
3. Longpress(single finger) the item on the touchscreen, wait until context 
menu popuped, then, release the finger.
Current behavior:
The context menu closed.
Expected behavior:
The context menu remains open.
Additional information:
OS: Debian 11.x (arm64/amd64)
Desktop: Gnome-3.38
Display server: X11
Nautilus: 3.38.2
The appearance is the same as this Video: 
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/3160 
<https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/3160 >
Thanks

Two-finger Scrolling Under GNOME.

[Alex Dowson]

Hi,

I've noticed an issue on my Thinkpad x250 running Debian 10 Buster.

I'm running the stock GNOME desktop environment (under Wayland) and 
every time I suspend the laptop (by closing the lid), two-finger 
scrolling just stops working.


I looked online and there appears to be confirmed issues upstream with 
Ubuntu that are similar (though for Xorg):


https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1765832

No idea what package is the cause of this? The reporting guide says to 
contact this mailing list for advice. Any pointers? Is there a report 
already open?


Regards,

Alex.

Re: [Fwd: debian buster finger print authentication]

[Mike Wortin]

Hello!
Can you please paste the logs to pastebin and send the link here?

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Re: w, who, finger, last, and netstat and ipv6

[Andy Smith]

Hi Michael,

On Sun, Jul 24, 2016 at 12:08:34AM +0100, Michael Grant wrote:
> > > % who
> > > mgrant   pts/12016-07-18 06:15 (2a00:S.1)
> >
> > I type "who" on Debian jessie and I do get the full IPv6 address:
> >
> > $ who
> > andy pts/62016-07-23 01:42 (2001:ba8:1f1:f019::2)

[…]

> How odd that you are getting completely different results from me.

I've just noticed the :S.1 at the end of your output. That means
you're running from within GNU Screen. I get the same sort of
truncation when doing "who" from within GNU Screen so that probably
answers that.

Cheers,
Andy

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Re: w, who, finger, last, and netstat and ipv6

[Michael Grant]

I just figured out what is going on.  The problem is gnu screen.

It's screen that's truncating the address.  When login and don't reattach
to my screen, I get the full address and "PROCPS_FROMLEN=40 w" prints the
expected full address.

Re: w, who, finger, last, and netstat and ipv6

[Michael Grant]

>
>
>
> > % who
> > mgrant   pts/12016-07-18 06:15 (2a00:S.1)
>
> I type "who" on Debian jessie and I do get the full IPv6 address:
>
> $ who
> andy pts/62016-07-23 01:42 (2001:ba8:1f1:f019::2)
> $ who --version
> who (GNU coreutils) 8.23
> Copyright (C) 2014 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
> License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later <
> http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>.
> This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
> There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.
>
> Written by Joseph Arceneaux, David MacKenzie, and Michael Stone.
>

I'm running Debian Testing

% who --version
who (GNU coreutils) 8.25
Copyright (C) 2016 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later .
This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.

Written by Joseph Arceneaux, David MacKenzie, and Michael Stone.

How odd that you are getting completely different results from me.  I tried
setting PROCPS_FROMLEN and it indeed makes the field wider but it's all
blank padded out, this does not make the address any longer.

I feel maybe I have some conflicting lib installed somehow that's messing
up the representation of these addresses.  I did not back out this version
and install 8.23.


>
> Using the "-a" option to put the hostname/IP at the end does allow
> it to be of arbitrary length:
>
> $ last -a
> andy pts/6Sat Jul 23 01:42   still logged in
> 2001:ba8:1f1:f019::2


last -a and netstat --wide do help, thanks for that!

Re: w, who, finger, last, and netstat and ipv6

[Andy Smith]

On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 01:53:07AM +, Andy Smith wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 11:57:32PM +0100, Michael Grant wrote:
> > netstat does a little better still but not much:
> > 
> > tcp6   0   2640 2600:3c00:::9:22 2a00:23c4:6d10:4d:36663
> > ESTABLISHED 12345/sshd: mgrant
> 
> "--wide" works for me.
> 
> $ netstat --protocol inet6 --wide
> Active Internet connections (w/o servers)
> Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address   Foreign Address State 
>  
> tcp6   0164 2001:ba8:1f1:f02c::2:ssh bitfolk.com:60756   
> ESTABLISHED

Oh, that is showing the local host's own v6 address, not the place I
was coming from. Add "--numeric-hosts" to get that. It isn't
truncated for me as long as I use "--wide".

Cheers,
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Re: w, who, finger, last, and netstat and ipv6

[Andy Smith]

Hi Michael,

On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 11:57:32PM +0100, Michael Grant wrote:
> Why is it w, who, and finger truncate an ipv6 address just after the first
> 4 characters of the address (the first :)?

It isn't a great answer but I'm guessing the honest one is that it's
because they come from a time before IPv6 and may not have been
updated in the best way since then.

> % who
> mgrant   pts/12016-07-18 06:15 (2a00:S.1)

I type "who" on Debian jessie and I do get the full IPv6 address:

$ who
andy pts/62016-07-23 01:42 (2001:ba8:1f1:f019::2)
$ who --version
who (GNU coreutils) 8.23
Copyright (C) 2014 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later <http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>.
This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.

Written by Joseph Arceneaux, David MacKenzie, and Michael Stone.

> % w
>  18:37:31 up 4 days, 12:26,  4 users,  load average: 0.05, 0.07, 0.05
> USER TTY  FROM LOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU WHAT
> mgrant   pts/12a00:S.1 Mon064days  0.02s  0.02s /bin/bash

Using the PROCPS_FROMLEN as documented in the man page, I can
increase the width of the "FROM" column:

$ PROCPS_FROMLEN=32 w
 01:46:09 up 97 days, 10:48,  6 users,  load average: 0.09, 0.08, 0.06
USER TTY  FROM LOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU 
WHAT
andy pts/62001:ba8:1f1:f019::2 01:420.00s  0.16s  0.00s 
w
$ w --version
w from procps-ng 3.3.9

> %  finger
> Login NameTty  Idle  Login Time   Office Office
> Phone
> mgrantMichael Grant   pts/1  4d  Jul 18 06:15 (2a00:S.1)

I don't have "finger" installed, so will leave investigation of that
one to someone else.

> The 'last' command does a little better, it truncates at 16 characters:
> 
> mgrant   pts/02a00:23c4:6d10:4 Fri Jul 22 18:04:00 2016   still
> logged in

Using the "-a" option to put the hostname/IP at the end does allow
it to be of arbitrary length:

$ last -a
andy pts/6Sat Jul 23 01:42   still logged in2001:ba8:1f1:f019::2

> 
> netstat does a little better still but not much:
> 
> tcp6   0   2640 2600:3c00:::9:22 2a00:23c4:6d10:4d:36663
> ESTABLISHED 12345/sshd: mgrant

"--wide" works for me.

$ netstat --protocol inet6 --wide
Active Internet connections (w/o servers)
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address   Foreign Address State  
tcp6   0164 2001:ba8:1f1:f02c::2:ssh bitfolk.com:60756   ESTABLISHED

> This seems so basic.  Could all of these programs except tcpdump be broken
> with respect to displaying ipv6 addresses?

It didn't seem that hard to find this info from looking at the
relevant man pages…

Cheers,
Andy

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w, who, finger, last, and netstat and ipv6

[Michael Grant]

Why is it w, who, and finger truncate an ipv6 address just after the first
4 characters of the address (the first :)?

% who
mgrant   pts/12016-07-18 06:15 (2a00:S.1)

% w
 18:37:31 up 4 days, 12:26,  4 users,  load average: 0.05, 0.07, 0.05
USER TTY  FROM LOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU WHAT
mgrant   pts/12a00:S.1 Mon064days  0.02s  0.02s /bin/bash

%  finger
Login NameTty  Idle  Login Time   Office Office
Phone
mgrantMichael Grant   pts/1  4d  Jul 18 06:15 (2a00:S.1)


The 'last' command does a little better, it truncates at 16 characters:

mgrant   pts/02a00:23c4:6d10:4 Fri Jul 22 18:04:00 2016   still
logged in

netstat does a little better still but not much:

tcp6   0   2640 2600:3c00:::9:22 2a00:23c4:6d10:4d:36663
ESTABLISHED 12345/sshd: mgrant


It seems near impossible to find out what the ip address someone is logged
in from when they come in via ipv6.  tcpdump -n seems about the only way.

This seems so basic.  Could all of these programs except tcpdump be broken
with respect to displaying ipv6 addresses?


Michael Grant

Re: Two finger scroll

[Camaleón]

El Thu, 26 May 2016 12:56:52 -0300, Luis E. Arevalo R. escribió:

> El 26 de mayo de 2016, 11:31, Camaleón  escribió:
> 
>> Comprueba que tienes también éste "xserver-xorg-input-libinput" y
>> recuerda reiniciar la sesión así como eliminar el archivo de
>> configuración que has creado ;-)
>>
>>
> # aptitude search xserver-xorg-input-libinput i A
> xserver-xorg-input-libinput-
> X.Org X server -- libinput input driver
> 
> Y sí, a cualquier cambio que aplico le sigo con un reiniciado de sesión,
> y también probé eliminando el archivo que había creado en
> /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ Con esto último, el resultado es como muestra la
> imagen adjunta. Como verás, todo lo que suene lógico, está hecho.
> Evidentemente hay algo más por ahí. Incluso hice un:
> 
> egrep -iR VertTwoFingerScroll /
> 
> por si pillaba algo por ahí, nada :-( Lo bueno es que con la
> configuración en /etc puedo volver a la configuración antigua. Algo es
> algo.

Pues me suena a que se trata de dos bugs:

1/ La existencia del archivo de configuración de synaptics no debería 
anular las opciones de configuración del ratón en gnome-shell.

2/ La configuración del ratón/touchpad en gnome-shell debería mostrar 
todas las opciones disponibles para el dispositivo.

Mira a ver si desde las opciones de gconf (clave "org.gnome.settings-
daemon.peripherals.touchpad" o "org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.touchpad") 
te permite definir el comportamiento del scrolling y revisa también el 
registro del servidor X en "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" por si vieras alún 
mensaje de error relacionado con el touchpad o el driver (grep -i 
synaptics /var/log/Xorg.0.log).

Saludos,

-- 
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Re: Two finger scroll

[Luis E. Arevalo R.]

El 26 de mayo de 2016, 11:31, Camaleón  escribió:

> Comprueba que tienes también éste "xserver-xorg-input-libinput" y
> recuerda reiniciar la sesión así como eliminar el archivo de
> configuración que has creado ;-)
>

# aptitude search xserver-xorg-input-libinput
i A xserver-xorg-input-libinput-
X.Org X server -- libinput input driver

Y sí, a cualquier cambio que aplico le sigo con un reiniciado de sesión, y
también probé eliminando el archivo que había creado
en /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ Con esto último, el resultado es como muestra la
imagen adjunta. Como verás, todo lo que suene lógico, está hecho.
Evidentemente hay algo más por ahí. Incluso hice un:

egrep -iR VertTwoFingerScroll /

por si pillaba algo por ahí, nada :-( Lo bueno es que con la configuración
en /etc puedo volver a la configuración antigua. Algo es algo.

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Re: Two finger scroll

[Camaleón]

El Thu, 26 May 2016 12:08:13 -0300, Luis E. Arevalo R. escribió:

> El 26 de mayo de 2016, 11:01, Camaleón  escribió:
> 
>> Hum... Mira a ver si tienes instalado el paquete
>> "xserver-xorg-input-all"
>> tal y como recomiendan por aquí:
>>
>> gnome-control-center: Mouse settings have no effect since 3.20
>> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=822081
>>
>>
> $ aptitude search xserver-xorg-input-all i A xserver-xorg-input-all 
>- X.Org X server -- input driver
> metapackage
> 
> Instalado. Tendré que darle un vistazo con mayor profundidad a mis
> configuraciones. Algo raro debo tener, algún otro paquete quizá me
> falte.
> Pero bueno, es el riesgo de tener testing.

Comprueba que tienes también éste "xserver-xorg-input-libinput" y 
recuerda reiniciar la sesión así como eliminar el archivo de 
configuración que has creado ;-)

Saludos,

-- 
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Re: Two finger scroll

[Luis E. Arevalo R.]

El 26 de mayo de 2016, 11:01, Camaleón  escribió:

> Hum... Mira a ver si tienes instalado el paquete "xserver-xorg-input-all"
> tal y como recomiendan por aquí:
>
> gnome-control-center: Mouse settings have no effect since 3.20
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=822081
>

$ aptitude search xserver-xorg-input-all
i A xserver-xorg-input-all -
X.Org X server -- input driver metapackage

Instalado. Tendré que darle un vistazo con mayor profundidad a mis
configuraciones. Algo raro debo tener, algún otro paquete quizá me falte.
Pero bueno, es el riesgo de tener testing.

¡Saludos!

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Re: Two finger scroll

[Camaleón]

El Thu, 26 May 2016 11:54:14 -0300, Luis E. Arevalo R. escribió:

> El 26 de mayo de 2016, 10:42, Camaleón <noela...@gmail.com> escribió:
> 
>> Como ves, en la configuración del touchpad de gnome-shell está activado
>> "two finger scrolling" por lo que lo único que tendrías que hacer es
>> desactivarlo para volver al comportamiento anterior. Lo que ya no sé si
>> ya probaste eso antes y no te funcionó o es que no te diste cuenta de
>> que estaba habilitado :-?
>>
>>
> La opción no me aparecía. Ayer cuando comencé a revisar el
> comportamiento,
> ingresé donde me muestras y no había opción para activar o desactivar el
> "two finger scrolling". Raro es entonces, está activado pero por alguna
> mañosa razón, no me aparece :-/

Hum... Mira a ver si tienes instalado el paquete "xserver-xorg-input-all" 
tal y como recomiendan por aquí:

gnome-control-center: Mouse settings have no effect since 3.20
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=822081

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón

Re: Two finger scroll

[Luis E. Arevalo R.]

El 26 de mayo de 2016, 10:42, Camaleón <noela...@gmail.com> escribió:

> Como ves, en la configuración del touchpad de gnome-shell está activado
> "two finger scrolling" por lo que lo único que tendrías que hacer es
> desactivarlo para volver al comportamiento anterior. Lo que ya no sé si
> ya probaste eso antes y no te funcionó o es que no te diste cuenta de que
> estaba habilitado :-?
>

La opción no me aparecía. Ayer cuando comencé a revisar el comportamiento,
ingresé donde me muestras y no había opción para activar o desactivar el
"two finger scrolling". Raro es entonces, está activado pero por alguna
mañosa razón, no me aparece :-/

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Re: Two finger scroll

[Camaleón]

El Thu, 26 May 2016 11:27:08 -0300, Luis E. Arevalo R. escribió:

> El 25 de mayo de 2016, 9:42, Camaleón <noela...@gmail.com> escribió:
> 
>> Revisa la configuración del touchpad o juega con "synclient" a ver qué
>> te dice.
>>
>> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics
>>
>>
> Estimados:
> 
> Finalmente solucioné el problema, pero no pude detectar qué es lo que
> sucedió. Siguiendo las instrucciones del enlace citado, copié el archivo
> /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf a /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ y
> agregué de la línea 18 a la 24 [1].
> 
> Con esto logré que el touchpad volviera a su funcionamiento "normal",
> pero me hizo desaparecer las configuraciones en el panel de Gnome [2],
> lo cual no me afecta pero me llama la atención.
> 
> Se agradece la ayuda, ¡saludos!
> 
> [1] http://paste.debian.net/705818/
> [2] MouseAndTouchpad.png

Creo que el origen del problema se debe a este cambio documentado:

https://blogs.gnome.org/felipeborges/new-mouse-panel/

Como ves, en la configuración del touchpad de gnome-shell está activado 
"two finger scrolling" por lo que lo único que tendrías que hacer es 
desactivarlo para volver al comportamiento anterior. Lo que ya no sé si  
ya probaste eso antes y no te funcionó o es que no te diste cuenta de que 
estaba habilitado :-?

Saludos,

-- 
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Re: Two finger scroll

[Luis E. Arevalo R.]

El 25 de mayo de 2016, 9:42, Camaleón  escribió:

> Revisa la configuración del touchpad o juega con "synclient" a ver qué te
> dice.
>
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics
>

Estimados:

Finalmente solucioné el problema, pero no pude detectar qué es lo que
sucedió. Siguiendo las instrucciones del enlace citado, copié el
archivo /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf
a /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ y agregué de la línea 18 a la 24 [1].

Con esto logré que el touchpad volviera a su funcionamiento "normal", pero
me hizo desaparecer las configuraciones en el panel de Gnome [2], lo cual
no me afecta pero me llama la atención.

Se agradece la ayuda, ¡saludos!

[1] http://paste.debian.net/705818/
[2] MouseAndTouchpad.png

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Re: Two finger scroll

[AlexLikeRock]

busca el driver de synaptics  y reinstalalo

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Re: Two finger scroll

[Camaleón]

El Wed, 25 May 2016 10:20:11 -0300, Luis E. Arevalo R. escribió:

> Hola a todos:
> 
> Hace un par de días me "dejó de funcionar" el scroll del touchpad. Hoy
> me puse a revisar la configuración en Gnome y todo está igual, pero al
> testearla, me di cuenta que el scroll está para dos dedos, y no para uno
> como estaba.

Habrá cambiado la configuración de synaptics o de gnome-shell.

> ¿Dónde puedo cambiar eso? Yo no he realizado cambios, por lo que debió
> ser alguna actualización de Debian testing.
> 
> Se agradece la ayuda, ¡saludos!

Revisa la configuración del touchpad o juega con "synclient" a ver qué te 
dice.

https://wiki.debian.org/SynapticsTouchpad#System-wide_configuration
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics

Saludos,

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Two finger scroll

[Luis E. Arevalo R.]

Hola a todos:

Hace un par de días me "dejó de funcionar" el scroll del touchpad. Hoy me
puse a revisar la configuración en Gnome y todo está igual, pero al
testearla, me di cuenta que el scroll está para dos dedos, y no para uno
como estaba.

¿Dónde puedo cambiar eso? Yo no he realizado cambios, por lo que debió ser
alguna actualización de Debian testing.

Se agradece la ayuda, ¡saludos!

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Re: who/w/finger/last printing ip address

[Reco]

 Hi.

On Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 11:44:18PM +0100, Michael Grant wrote:
> 
> $ ls -al /usr/bin/w
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 Feb 11  2014 /usr/bin/w -> /etc/alternatives/w
> $ ls -al /etc/alternatives/w
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Feb 11  2014 /etc/alternatives/w -> 
> /usr/bin/w.procps
> $ w -V
> w from procps-ng 3.3.10
> $ who --version
> who (GNU coreutils) 8.23
> 
> 
> also "who --lookup" makes no attempt to look up the ip addresses either. 
> 
> So is this now the expected behavior in Debian?

Yup. They build it that way.
Upstream thinks it's the sane default, and Debian tries to stay close to
the upstream.

Reco

Re: who/w/finger/last printing ip address

[Michael Grant]

(I of course edited my own host's ip address here for 10.20.30.40)

But yes, getent resolves my host ip to a name.  who/w/finger/last all still
do not resolve the host.

On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Reco <recovery...@gmail.com> wrote:

>  Hi.
>
> On Tue, Sep 08, 2015 at 12:39:06PM +0100, Michael Grant wrote:
> > Any idea why I'm NOT getting hostnames by default?
> >
> > $ who
> > mgrant   pts/12015-09-05 07:30 (10.20.30.40:S.1)
> > mgrant   pts/22015-09-05 07:30 (10.20.30.40:S.2)
> > mgrant   pts/32015-09-05 07:30 (10.20.30.40:S.3)
> > mgrant   pts/42015-09-05 07:30 (10.20.30.40:S.4)
> > $ w
> >  07:34:29 up 3 days, 6 min,  4 users,  load average: 0.03, 0.06, 0.05
> > USER TTY  FROM LOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU WHAT
> > mgrant   pts/110.20.30.40:S. Sat07   26:48m  0.09s  0.09s /bin/bash
> > $  finger
> > Login NameTty  Idle  Login Time   Office Office
> Phone
> > mgrantMichael Grant   pts/1  1d  Sep  5 07:30 (10.20.30.40:S.1)
> > mgrantMichael Grant   pts/2   14:12  Sep  5 07:30 (10.20.30.40:S.2)
> > mgrantMichael Grant   pts/3  Sep  5 07:30 (10.20.30.40:S.3)
> > mgrantMichael Grant   pts/4  3d  Sep  5 07:30 (10.20.30.40:S.4)
>
> Because your host is unable to resolve the IPs to hostnames, maybe?
> What does 'getent hosts 10.20.30.40' show?
>
> Reco
>

Re: who/w/finger/last printing ip address

[Reco]

 Hi.

On Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 10:46:53AM +0100, Michael Grant wrote:
> (I of course edited my own host's ip address here for 10.20.30.40)
> 
> But yes, getent resolves my host ip to a name.  who/w/finger/last all still 
> do not resolve the host.

Ok, then we'll have to do it the hard way.

Please post the output of 'strace w'.

Reco

Re: who/w/finger/last printing ip address

[Reco]

 Hi.

On Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 01:18:34PM +0100, Michael Grant wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Reco <recovery...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>  Hi.
>
> On Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 10:46:53AM +0100, Michael Grant wrote:
> > (I of course edited my own host's ip address here for 10.20.30.40)
> >
> > But yes, getent resolves my host ip to a name.  who/w/finger/last all 
> still do not resolve the host.
> 
> Ok, then we'll have to do it the hard way.
> 
> Please post the output of 'strace w'.
>
> 
> $ getent hosts 10.20.30.40
> 10.20.30.40   host10-20-30-40.example.com
> $ w
>  05:46:33 up 3 days, 22:18,  4 users,  load average: 0.04, 0.07, 0.06
> USER TTY  FROM LOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU WHAT
> mgrant   pts/1    10.20.30.40:S. Sat07   22:05m  0.09s  0.09s /bin/bash
> mgrant   pts/2    10.20.30.40:S. Sat07   22:05m  0.27s  0.05s /bin/bash
> mgrant   pts/3    10.20.30.40:S. Sat07    0.00s  6.00s  0.07s /bin/bash
> mgrant   pts/4    10.20.30.40:S. Sat07    3days  0.57s  0.57s emacs
> $ strace w
> execve("/usr/bin/w", ["w"], [/* 25 vars */]) = 0

> exit_group(0)   = ?
> +++ exited with 0 +++

Ok. This strace output clearly shows that 'w' does not even trying to
resolve IPs to hostnames.

Hence, even more hard way should be tried - looking at the source.

'w' you're using should belong to 'procps' package, source of which is
here:

git://git.debian.org/collab-maint/procps.git

The source file for 'w' is, unsurprisingly, 'w.c', which has this check:

if (from)
print_from(u, ip_addresses, fromlen);

So, basically they decide to print hostnames only of 'from' variable is
set to 0, which is set in 'main' function to '1' initially:

/* switches (defaults) */
int header = 1;
int longform = 1;
int from = 1;

For reasons unknown, 'from' can be set to 0 initially if one is using
W_SHOWFROM compilation flag. This flag is set for squeeze's procps, but
unset starting with wheezy (as far as I can tell):

#ifndef W_SHOWFROM
from = 0;
#endif


'-f' flag for 'w', which, according to the manpage, should enable
IP->hostname resolving, merely inverts 'from' flag:

while ((ch =
getopt_long(argc, argv, "husfoVi", longopts, NULL)) != -1)
switch (ch) {
case 'h':
header = 0;
break;
case 'l':
longform = 1;
break;
case 's':
longform = 0;
break;
case 'f':
from = !from;
break;


And, as the cherry on a pie, there's this commit
e14b7c261042020b19f73a032be53d7728b6c29f, dated 6 Jan 2012, aptly named
"Imported Upstream version 3.3.2", which changed default 'from' value
from '0' to '1'.


So, long story short, last version of 'w' which printed hostnames by
default should be squeeze's one, and even then they used compilation
flag to make it do so.

Reco

Re: who/w/finger/last printing ip address

[Michael Grant]

$ ls -al /usr/bin/w
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 Feb 11  2014 /usr/bin/w -> /etc/alternatives/w
$ ls -al /etc/alternatives/w
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Feb 11  2014 /etc/alternatives/w ->
/usr/bin/w.procps
$ w -V
w from procps-ng 3.3.10
$ who --version
who (GNU coreutils) 8.23


also "who --lookup" makes no attempt to look up the ip addresses either.

So is this now the expected behavior in Debian?

Re: who/w/finger/last printing ip address

[David Wright]

Quoting Reco (recovery...@gmail.com):
> On Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 11:50:17AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > Quoting Reco (recovery...@gmail.com):
> > 
> > > So, long story short, last version of 'w' which printed hostnames by
> > > default should be squeeze's one, and even then they used compilation
> > > flag to make it do so.
> > 
> > I'm trying to follow this, but it doesn't seem to square with my own
> > observations.
> 
> Ok. As they say - 'there should be a logical explanation for this' :)
> 
> > I've edited the following output to pertinent entries in context
> > (you don't need my TV's hostname/IP#).
> 
> Indeed. They are irrelevant in this case.
> 
> > west runs jessie, alum runs wheezy. jessie first:
> > 
> > west ~ $ w
> < 'w' showing hostnames skipped >
> > alum ~ $ w -i
> > w: invalid option -- 'i'
> 
> This. Since 'w' from 'procps' package clearly supports '-i' flag - it
> means you use some different 'w'. Please post the output of:
> 
> ls -al /usr/bin/w
> ls -al /etc/alternatives/w

jessie first:

west ~ $ ls -l /usr/bin/w /etc/alternatives/w /usr/bin/w.procps 
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root17 Oct 10  2012 /etc/alternatives/w -> 
/usr/bin/w.procps
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root19 Oct 10  2012 /usr/bin/w -> /etc/alternatives/w
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 17896 Mar  6  2015 /usr/bin/w.procps
west ~ $ man w | grep ' 201'
procps-ng  May 2012  W(1)
west ~ $ dpkg -L procps | grep /w
/usr/share/man/de/man1/w.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/watch.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/w.procps.1.gz
/usr/bin/w.procps
/usr/bin/watch
west ~ $ 

Now wheezy:

alum ~ $ ls -l /usr/bin/w /etc/alternatives/w /usr/bin/w.procps 
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root17 May  5  2014 /etc/alternatives/w -> 
/usr/bin/w.procps
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root19 May  5  2014 /usr/bin/w -> /etc/alternatives/w
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 17916 Mar 28  2013 /usr/bin/w.procps
alum ~ $ man w | grep ' 201'
procps-ng  June 2011  W(1)
alum ~ $ dpkg -L procps | grep /w
/usr/bin/watch
/usr/bin/w.procps
/usr/share/man/man1/w.procps.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/watch.1.gz
/usr/share/man/de/man1/w.1.gz
alum ~ $ 

Cheers,
David.

Re: who/w/finger/last printing ip address

[Reco]

 Hi.

On Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 01:32:16PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> Quoting Reco (recovery...@gmail.com):
> > On Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 11:50:17AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > > Quoting Reco (recovery...@gmail.com):
> > > 
> > > > So, long story short, last version of 'w' which printed hostnames by
> > > > default should be squeeze's one, and even then they used compilation
> > > > flag to make it do so.
> > > 
> > > I'm trying to follow this, but it doesn't seem to square with my own
> > > observations.
> > 
> > Ok. As they say - 'there should be a logical explanation for this' :)
> > 
> > > I've edited the following output to pertinent entries in context
> > > (you don't need my TV's hostname/IP#).
> > 
> > Indeed. They are irrelevant in this case.
> > 
> > > west runs jessie, alum runs wheezy. jessie first:
> > > 
> > > west ~ $ w
> > < 'w' showing hostnames skipped >
> > > alum ~ $ w -i
> > > w: invalid option -- 'i'
> > 
> > This. Since 'w' from 'procps' package clearly supports '-i' flag - it
> > means you use some different 'w'. Please post the output of:
> > 
> > ls -al /usr/bin/w
> > ls -al /etc/alternatives/w
> 
> jessie first:
> 
> west ~ $ ls -l /usr/bin/w /etc/alternatives/w /usr/bin/w.procps 
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root17 Oct 10  2012 /etc/alternatives/w -> 
> /usr/bin/w.procps
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root19 Oct 10  2012 /usr/bin/w -> /etc/alternatives/w
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 17896 Mar  6  2015 /usr/bin/w.procps
> west ~ $ man w | grep ' 201'
> procps-ng  May 2012  W(1)
> west ~ $ dpkg -L procps | grep /w
> /usr/share/man/de/man1/w.1.gz
> /usr/share/man/man1/watch.1.gz
> /usr/share/man/man1/w.procps.1.gz
> /usr/bin/w.procps
> /usr/bin/watch
> west ~ $ 
> 
> Now wheezy:
> 
> alum ~ $ ls -l /usr/bin/w /etc/alternatives/w /usr/bin/w.procps 
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root17 May  5  2014 /etc/alternatives/w -> 
> /usr/bin/w.procps
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root19 May  5  2014 /usr/bin/w -> /etc/alternatives/w
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 17916 Mar 28  2013 /usr/bin/w.procps
> alum ~ $ man w | grep ' 201'
> procps-ng  June 2011  W(1)
> alum ~ $ dpkg -L procps | grep /w
> /usr/bin/watch
> /usr/bin/w.procps
> /usr/share/man/man1/w.procps.1.gz
> /usr/share/man/man1/watch.1.gz
> /usr/share/man/de/man1/w.1.gz
> alum ~ $ 

Ok, I stand corrected. Last version of 'w' which shows hostnames by
default seems to be 3.3.3 they put in wheezy:

First, wheezy's 'w' did not have '-i' option at all.

Second, wheezy's debian/rules contains this '--enable-w-from' configure
option that I missed:

override_dh_auto_configure:
./configure \
  --build=$(DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE) \
  --enable-watch8bit --enable-w-from \
  --enable-skill \
  --prefix=/usr \
  --exec-prefix=/ \
  --libdir=/usr/lib/$(DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH)

Reco

Re: who/w/finger/last printing ip address

[Reco]

 Hi.

On Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 11:50:17AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> Quoting Reco (recovery...@gmail.com):
> 
> > So, long story short, last version of 'w' which printed hostnames by
> > default should be squeeze's one, and even then they used compilation
> > flag to make it do so.
> 
> I'm trying to follow this, but it doesn't seem to square with my own
> observations.

Ok. As they say - 'there should be a logical explanation for this' :)


> I've edited the following output to pertinent entries in context
> (you don't need my TV's hostname/IP#).

Indeed. They are irrelevant in this case.


> west runs jessie, alum runs wheezy. jessie first:
> 
> west ~ $ w
< 'w' showing hostnames skipped >
> alum ~ $ w -i
> w: invalid option -- 'i'

This. Since 'w' from 'procps' package clearly supports '-i' flag - it
means you use some different 'w'. Please post the output of:

ls -al /usr/bin/w
ls -al /etc/alternatives/w

Reco

Re: who/w/finger/last printing ip address

[David Wright]

Quoting Reco (recovery...@gmail.com):

> So, long story short, last version of 'w' which printed hostnames by
> default should be squeeze's one, and even then they used compilation
> flag to make it do so.

I'm trying to follow this, but it doesn't seem to square with my own
observations.

I've edited the following output to pertinent entries in context
(you don't need my TV's hostname/IP#).

west runs jessie, alum runs wheezy. jessie first:

west ~ $ w
 11:31:01 up  4:41, 24 users,  load average: 0.13, 0.13, 0.14
USER TTY  FROM LOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU WHAT
davidtty1  07:061:50m 60.68s  0.25s -bash
davidpts/0:0   07:062:13m  0.08s  0.08s bash
...
davidpts/3:0   07:06   50.00s  0.55s  0.47s ssh -X alum
...
davidpts/16   :0   07:060.00s  0.09s  0.00s w
...
davidpts/20   :0   07:063:55   0.42s  0.33s ssh -X alum
davidpts/21   alum 11:308.00s  0.19s  0.19s -bash
davidtty2  10:02   48:17   0.31s  0.19s -bash
west ~ $ getent hosts
127.0.0.1   localhost
127.0.1.1   west
192.168.1.1 router
...
192.168.1.13wasp
192.168.1.17agog
192.168.1.19alum
127.0.0.1   ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
west ~ $ w -i
 11:35:31 up  4:45, 24 users,  load average: 0.01, 0.07, 0.11
USER TTY  FROM LOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU WHAT
davidtty1  07:061:55m  1:02   0.25s -bash
davidpts/0:0   07:062:17m  0.08s  0.08s bash
...
davidpts/3:0   07:06   23.00s  0.67s  0.59s ssh -X alum
...
davidpts/16   :0   07:061:35   0.10s  0.10s bash
...
davidpts/20   :0   07:068:25   0.42s  0.33s ssh -X alum
davidpts/21   192.168.1.19 11:304:38   0.19s  0.19s -bash
davidtty2  10:02   52:47   0.31s  0.19s -bash
west ~ $ 

and wheezy (nobody at the console):

alum ~ $ w
 11:38:31 up  5:38,  5 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.05
USER TTY  FROM LOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU WHAT
davidpts/0west 10:48   11:27   1.01s  0.00s -bash
...
davidpts/3west 11:307:40   0.19s  0.04s ssh -X west
davidpts/4west 11:387.00s  0.16s  0.00s w
alum ~ $ getent hosts
127.0.0.1   localhost
127.0.1.1   alum
192.168.1.1 router
...
192.168.1.13wasp
192.168.1.15west
192.168.1.17agog
127.0.0.1   localhost ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
alum ~ $ w -i
w: invalid option -- 'i'

Usage:
...
alum ~ $ 

Note: the router does no DNS for the local network, only the
internet. Sorry I'm no longer running squeeze.

Cheers,
David.

Re: who/w/finger/last printing ip address

[Michael Grant]

Any idea why I'm NOT getting hostnames by default?

$ who
mgrant   pts/12015-09-05 07:30 (*10.20.30.40*:S.1)
mgrant   pts/22015-09-05 07:30 (*10.20.30.40*:S.2)
mgrant   pts/32015-09-05 07:30 (*10.20.30.40*:S.3)
mgrant   pts/42015-09-05 07:30 (*10.20.30.40*:S.4)
$ w
 07:34:29 up 3 days, 6 min,  4 users,  load average: 0.03, 0.06, 0.05
USER TTY  FROM LOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU WHAT
mgrant   pts/1*10.20.30.40*:S. Sat07   26:48m  0.09s  0.09s /bin/bash
$  finger
Login NameTty  Idle  Login Time   Office Office
Phone
mgrantMichael Grant   pts/1  1d  Sep  5 07:30 (*10.20.30.40*:S.1)
mgrantMichael Grant   pts/2   14:12  Sep  5 07:30 (*10.20.30.40*:S.2)
mgrantMichael Grant   pts/3  Sep  5 07:30 (*10.20.30.40*:S.3)
mgrantMichael Grant   pts/4  3d  Sep  5 07:30 (*10.20.30.40*:S.4)

Re: who/w/finger/last printing ip address

[Reco]

 Hi.

On Tue, Sep 08, 2015 at 12:39:06PM +0100, Michael Grant wrote:
> Any idea why I'm NOT getting hostnames by default?
> 
> $ who
> mgrant   pts/1    2015-09-05 07:30 (10.20.30.40:S.1)
> mgrant   pts/2    2015-09-05 07:30 (10.20.30.40:S.2)
> mgrant   pts/3    2015-09-05 07:30 (10.20.30.40:S.3)
> mgrant   pts/4    2015-09-05 07:30 (10.20.30.40:S.4)
> $ w
>  07:34:29 up 3 days, 6 min,  4 users,  load average: 0.03, 0.06, 0.05
> USER TTY  FROM LOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU WHAT
> mgrant   pts/1    10.20.30.40:S. Sat07   26:48m  0.09s  0.09s /bin/bash
> $  finger
> Login Name    Tty  Idle  Login Time   Office Office Phone
> mgrant    Michael Grant   pts/1  1d  Sep  5 07:30 (10.20.30.40:S.1)
> mgrant    Michael Grant   pts/2   14:12  Sep  5 07:30 (10.20.30.40:S.2)
> mgrant    Michael Grant   pts/3  Sep  5 07:30 (10.20.30.40:S.3)
> mgrant    Michael Grant   pts/4  3d  Sep  5 07:30 (10.20.30.40:S.4)

Because your host is unable to resolve the IPs to hostnames, maybe?
What does 'getent hosts 10.20.30.40' show?

Reco

Re: who/w/finger/last printing ip address

[Martin Read]

On 05/09/15 23:21, Michael Grant wrote:

I have to say in some ways this seems like a feature not a bug!  I've
long missed the option some other unixes have to inhibit resolving the
name.  But at the moment the hostname!  Frankly, there should be an
option to w, who, finger, and last to not resolve the addresses.


Such options are clearly documented in the man pages for three of those 
four utilities.


last -i prints IP addresses.
last -d prints resolved hostnames.

w -i or --ip-addr prints IP addresses.

who --ips prints IP addresses instead of hostnames
who --lookup attempts to canonicalize hostnames

There doesn't appear to be a corresponding option for finger.

who/w/finger/last printing ip address

[Michael Grant]

I'm running debian testing.  Just did an apt-get update.  who, w, finger,
and last are all now printing the ip address instead of the hostname.  the
wtmp seems to have the ip address now instead of the hostname.  Last shows
hostnames up to when I did the apt-get update today and then ip addresses.

Is this expected?  Is something in the works and this is in the process of
changing?

I have to say in some ways this seems like a feature not a bug!  I've long
missed the option some other unixes have to inhibit resolving the name.
But at the moment the hostname!  Frankly, there should be an option to w,
who, finger, and last to not resolve the addresses.

Re: laptop with two-finger gestures with a free OS

[Jochen Spieker]

Dan Hitt:
 
 So . . . i'd like to get a laptop for my personal use, but of course
 running a free OS.
 
 Does this exist, with the two finger gesture use?

My Thinkpad X240 supports two-finger scrolling and a few other gestures.

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laptop with two-finger gestures with a free OS

[Dan Hitt]

Hi Debian List,

At work, i've got a mac book pro laptop, which for the first time in
my life is a laptop that i can use like a serious computer.  Prior to
this, i refused to use a laptop because they are so much worse than
desktops.

Part of the appeal for me is the two-finger gestures for scrolling.

It's still a little worse than a desktop because of the crummy laptop
keyboard, but good enough to use on transit.

So . . . i'd like to get a laptop for my personal use, but of course
running a free OS.

Does this exist, with the two finger gesture use?

TIA for any info.

dan


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Re: laptop with two-finger gestures with a free OS

[Bzzzz]

On Wed, 30 Jul 2014 19:28:32 -0700
Dan Hitt dan.h...@gmail.com wrote:

 So . . . i'd like to get a laptop for my personal use, but of
 course running a free OS.
 
 Does this exist, with the two finger gesture use?

MSI has such machines (at least in EU); it uses a synaptics
touchpad with this feature (strange when you're used to old
ones with a scroll zone on the right).

Here, you find at least 2 models without any OS, one with
a i3, the other with a i5-4210M @ 2.6GHz (3.6GHz boost)
(€500 4GB RAM, 500GB HD, LCD 1366x768, ~4H normal work).
Full support of all features w/ sid + TLP.

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Re: Synaptics touchpad two-finger scrolling

[Sjoerd Hardeman]

Sjoerd Hardeman wrote:

Hi list,

I had two-finger scrolling working with explicit lines in the xorg.conf.
Yet, trying to keep up and using hal instead I edited
/usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/20thirdparty/11-x11-synaptics.fdi and added

merge key=input.x11_options.SHMConfig type=stringOn/merge
merge key=input.x11_options.VertTwoFingerScroll 
type=string1/merge
merge key=input.x11_options.HorizTwoFingerScroll 
type=string1/merge

to the synaptics section. When checking lshal, it all seems to work

udi = 
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_i8042_i8042_AUX_port_logicaldev_input'
  info.capabilities = {'input', 'input.touchpad'} (string list)
  info.category = 'input'  (string)
  info.parent = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_i8042_i8042_AUX_port'  
(string)
  info.product = 'SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad'  (string)
  info.subsystem = 'input'  (string)
  info.udi = 
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_i8042_i8042_AUX_port_logicaldev_input'  
(string)
  input.device = '/dev/input/event13'  (string)
  input.originating_device = 
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_i8042_i8042_AUX_port'  (string)
  input.product = 'SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad'  (string)
  input.x11_driver = 'synaptics'  (string)
  input.x11_options.HorizTwoFingerScroll = '1'  (string)
  input.x11_options.SHMConfig = 'On'  (string)
  input.x11_options.VertTwoFingerScroll = '1'  (string)
  linux.device_file = '/dev/input/event13'  (string)
  linux.hotplug_type = 2  (0x2)  (int)
  linux.subsystem = 'input'  (string)
  linux.sysfs_path = '/sys/class/input/input13/event13'  (string)

yet in X it doesn't. Two-finger scrolling does not work, and trying
synclient of gsynaptics gives a message like

Can't access shared memory area. SHMConfig disabled?


Does anybody know what's going on?

Nobody? Should I file a bug for the driver?

Sjoerd



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RE: Synaptics touchpad two-finger scrolling

[Stackpole, Chris]

 From: Sjoerd Hardeman [mailto:sjo...@lorentz.leidenuniv.nl]
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 7:18 AM
 Subject: Re: Synaptics touchpad two-finger scrolling
 
 Sjoerd Hardeman wrote:
  Hi list,
 
  I had two-finger scrolling working with explicit lines in the
xorg.conf.
[snip]
  yet in X it doesn't. Two-finger scrolling does not work, and trying
  synclient of gsynaptics gives a message like
  Can't access shared memory area. SHMConfig disabled?
 
  Does anybody know what's going on?
 Nobody? Should I file a bug for the driver?

I don't know if it is worth filing a bug report over yet, but I would at
least try to contact some of the dev's working on it. I have not seen
much discussion on two-touch devices on this list so I suspect that
there are not a lot of people using it.

In my experience, two touch is one of those things that people were
drooling over a couple months ago but now no one I know is using it
(even the Apple guys I know with the Macbooks and iPhones don't care).
*shrug* I am not saying that it is bad or isn't useful to people out
there, just that I don't know how much help you will get on just the
user lists when there are so few people using it. 

I usually don't advocate talking to the devs ( as I don't want to bother
them with trivial problems ) but they are probably the most likely to be
able to help you. I would check to see who the Synaptics devs are and
see if they hang out on a particular list / IRC. Then, if no answer,
maybe send them an email directly.

Good luck and have fun!

~Stack~

PS: Now watch as I find out a ton of people are using it on the list and
it is just the tiny bubble of people I interact with that don't. :-D
Haha!


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RE: Synaptics touchpad two-finger scrolling

[Stackpole, Chris]

 From: Stackpole, Chris [mailto:cstackp...@barbnet.com]
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 8:44 AM
 Subject: RE: Synaptics touchpad two-finger scrolling
[snip]
 I usually don't advocate talking to the devs ( as I don't want to
bother
 them with trivial problems ) but they are probably the most likely to
be
 able to help you.

I re-read this after it was sent and decided that I don't like my
wording.
So just thought I would clarify that I am not trying to imply that you
have
a trivial problem. Just that since you have now tried the user list, you
should escalate up to the devs. :-)

~Stack~


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Re: Synaptics touchpad two-finger scrolling

[Sjoerd Hardeman]

Stackpole, Chris wrote:

From: Stackpole, Chris [mailto:cstackp...@barbnet.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 8:44 AM
Subject: RE: Synaptics touchpad two-finger scrolling

[snip]

I usually don't advocate talking to the devs ( as I don't want to

bother

them with trivial problems ) but they are probably the most likely to

be

able to help you.


I re-read this after it was sent and decided that I don't like my
wording.
So just thought I would clarify that I am not trying to imply that you
have
a trivial problem. Just that since you have now tried the user list, you
should escalate up to the devs. :-)
Don't worry, I understood that. I'll wait for one more day and then try 
with the devs.


Sjoerd



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Re: Synaptics touchpad two-finger scrolling

[Jerome BENOIT]

Hello,

I have a UnibodyMacBook with the ClickPad:
the box is a Lenny box running kernel 2.6.30

The two fingers stuff is working well (but not the secondary click).

synclient -l gives:
Parameter settings:
   LeftEdge= 0
   RightEdge   = 1280
   TopEdge = 0
   BottomEdge  = 800
   FingerLow   = 20
   FingerHigh  = 30
   FingerPress = 256
   MaxTapTime  = 150
   MaxTapMove  = 220
   MaxDoubleTapTime= 180
   SingleTapTimeout= 180
   ClickTime   = 100
   FastTaps= 0
   EmulateMidButtonTime= 75
   EmulateTwoFingerMinZ= 257
   VertScrollDelta = 5
   HorizScrollDelta= 0
   VertEdgeScroll  = 0
   HorizEdgeScroll = 0
   CornerCoasting  = 0
   VertTwoFingerScroll = 1
   HorizTwoFingerScroll= 1
   MinSpeed= 0.94
   MaxSpeed= 1
   AccelFactor = 0.0015
   TrackstickSpeed = 40
   EdgeMotionMinZ  = 30
   EdgeMotionMaxZ  = 160
   EdgeMotionMinSpeed  = 1
   EdgeMotionMaxSpeed  = 80
   EdgeMotionUseAlways = 0
   UpDownScrolling = 1
   LeftRightScrolling  = 1
   UpDownScrollRepeat  = 1
   LeftRightScrollRepeat   = 1
   ScrollButtonRepeat  = 100
   TouchpadOff = 0
   GuestMouseOff   = 0
   LockedDrags = 0
   LockedDragTimeout   = 5000
   RTCornerButton  = 2
   RBCornerButton  = 0
   LTCornerButton  = 3
   LBCornerButton  = 0
   TapButton1  = 1
   TapButton2  = 2
   TapButton3  = 3
   CircularScrolling   = 0
   CircScrollDelta = 0.1
   CircScrollTrigger   = 0
   CircularPad = 0
   PalmDetect  = 1
   PalmMinWidth= 10
   PalmMinZ= 200
   CoastingSpeed   = 0
   PressureMotionMinZ  = 30
   PressureMotionMaxZ  = 160
   PressureMotionMinFactor = 1
   PressureMotionMaxFactor = 1
   GrabEventDevice = 1

hth,
Jerome

Stackpole, Chris wrote:

From: Sjoerd Hardeman [mailto:sjo...@lorentz.leidenuniv.nl]
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: Synaptics touchpad two-finger scrolling

Sjoerd Hardeman wrote:

Hi list,

I had two-finger scrolling working with explicit lines in the

xorg.conf.
[snip]

yet in X it doesn't. Two-finger scrolling does not work, and trying
synclient of gsynaptics gives a message like

Can't access shared memory area. SHMConfig disabled?

Does anybody know what's going on?

Nobody? Should I file a bug for the driver?


I don't know if it is worth filing a bug report over yet, but I would at
least try to contact some of the dev's working on it. I have not seen
much discussion on two-touch devices on this list so I suspect that
there are not a lot of people using it.

In my experience, two touch is one of those things that people were
drooling over a couple months ago but now no one I know is using it
(even the Apple guys I know with the Macbooks and iPhones don't care).
*shrug* I am not saying that it is bad or isn't useful to people out
there, just that I don't know how much help you will get on just the
user lists when there are so few people using it. 


I usually don't advocate talking to the devs ( as I don't want to bother
them with trivial problems ) but they are probably the most likely to be
able to help you. I would check to see who the Synaptics devs are and
see if they hang out on a particular list / IRC. Then, if no answer,
maybe send them an email directly.

Good luck and have fun!

~Stack~

PS: Now watch as I find out a ton of people are using it on the list and
it is just the tiny bubble of people I interact with that don't. :-D
Haha!




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Synaptics touchpad two-finger scrolling

[Sjoerd Hardeman]

Hi list,

I had two-finger scrolling working with explicit lines in the xorg.conf.
Yet, trying to keep up and using hal instead I edited
/usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/20thirdparty/11-x11-synaptics.fdi and added
 merge key=input.x11_options.SHMConfig type=stringOn/merge
 merge key=input.x11_options.VertTwoFingerScroll 
 type=string1/merge
 merge key=input.x11_options.HorizTwoFingerScroll 
 type=string1/merge
to the synaptics section. When checking lshal, it all seems to work
 udi = 
 '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_i8042_i8042_AUX_port_logicaldev_input'
   info.capabilities = {'input', 'input.touchpad'} (string list)
   info.category = 'input'  (string)
   info.parent = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_i8042_i8042_AUX_port'  
 (string)
   info.product = 'SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad'  (string)
   info.subsystem = 'input'  (string)
   info.udi = 
 '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_i8042_i8042_AUX_port_logicaldev_input' 
  (string)
   input.device = '/dev/input/event13'  (string)
   input.originating_device = 
 '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_i8042_i8042_AUX_port'  (string)
   input.product = 'SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad'  (string)
   input.x11_driver = 'synaptics'  (string)
   input.x11_options.HorizTwoFingerScroll = '1'  (string)
   input.x11_options.SHMConfig = 'On'  (string)
   input.x11_options.VertTwoFingerScroll = '1'  (string)
   linux.device_file = '/dev/input/event13'  (string)
   linux.hotplug_type = 2  (0x2)  (int)
   linux.subsystem = 'input'  (string)
   linux.sysfs_path = '/sys/class/input/input13/event13'  (string)
yet in X it doesn't. Two-finger scrolling does not work, and trying
synclient of gsynaptics gives a message like
 Can't access shared memory area. SHMConfig disabled?

Does anybody know what's going on?

Sjoerd



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Filtrado de usuarios con finger

[Carlos Velásquez]

Estimados compañeros,

Estoy trabajando con usuarios del sistema, que son los mismo del 
servicio de correo, el asunto es que quiero filtrar a las personas que 
no han revisado el correo desde una fecha determinada (por ejemplo hace 
un año), con el comando finger, puedo obtener esa información ya que me 
dice desde cuando no lee el correo, hasta ahí todo bien.


El problema radica en que son más de 6000 cuentas de usuarios y no 
podría revisarlas una por una, para ir barrando las que cumplan con 
dicha condición.


Existe alguna forma de filtrar a los usuarios con esa condición, que me 
pueda emitir un listado para poder eliminarlos?


Si alguno sabe de alguna página para guía o algún script que me sirva, 
se lo agradecería.


Saludos...


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Re: Filtrado de usuarios con finger

[Adri�]

El Dilluns 18 Febrer 2008 22:53, Carlos Velásquez va escriure:
 Estimados compañeros,

 Estoy trabajando con usuarios del sistema, que son los mismo del
 servicio de correo, el asunto es que quiero filtrar a las personas que
 no han revisado el correo desde una fecha determinada (por ejemplo hace
 un año), con el comando finger, puedo obtener esa información ya que me
 dice desde cuando no lee el correo, hasta ahí todo bien.

 El problema radica en que son más de 6000 cuentas de usuarios y no
 podría revisarlas una por una, para ir barrando las que cumplan con
 dicha condición.

 Existe alguna forma de filtrar a los usuarios con esa condición, que me
 pueda emitir un listado para poder eliminarlos?

 Si alguno sabe de alguna página para guía o algún script que me sirva,
 se lo agradecería.

 Saludos...

Has probado de hacerlo con grep y awk?

Haz un bucle que lea todos los usuarios definidos en /etc/passwd y para cada 
uno de ellos ejecute finger. Y en la salida resultante filtra con un if todos 
los que cumplan dicha  condición. El filtrado lo puedes volcar a un fichero 
con ''.

Si esto no resuelve el problema, podrías probar de concretarnoslo un poco más? 
Saludos. Espero te sirva.

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Re: Leitor Biométrico (finger print)

[Francisco Rodrigues Vicente]

Da uma olhada em www.vivaolinux.com.br se não me engano tem um artigo do cabelo que fala sobre isso, é um artigo recente.Em 23/05/06, 
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Amigos,



Estou precisando instalar um leitor biométrico aqui no trabalho, já
procurei pela net algum driver e não tive sucesso. O modelo do leitor é o : Leitor
de SmartCard e Biometria Veridicom 5th Sense Combo (
http://www.pernix.com.br

). O Fabricante não possuí diver para linux.





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Leitor Biométrico (finger print)

[Júlio César Santos Barreto]

Amigos,



Estou precisando instalar um leitor biométrico aqui no trabalho, já
procurei pela net algum driver e não tive sucesso. O modelo do leitor é o : Leitor
de SmartCard e Biometria Veridicom 5th Sense Combo (http://www.pernix.com.br

). O Fabricante não possuí diver para linux.





Julio Cesar Santos Barreto

Re: Finger weg von unstable!

[Marc Haber]

On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 17:06:58 +0200, Sven Hartge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Marc Haber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Marc, der in den letzten 48 Stunden zweimal X-Scherbenhaufen
 zusammenkehren durfte und derartige Aktionen in den nächsten Wochen
 weiterhin erwartet

Was ist denn bei dir zerbrochen?

Der erste Haufen war das fehlende xkb-data und die Tatsache, dass ich
mein X nicht per Metapackage installiert hatte und somit sämtliche
input- und video-Treiber gefehlt haben.

Der zweite Haufen war das fehlende /usr/bin/X11/X.

Waren aber beides keine wirklich unfixbaren Probleme. Etwas Zeit
gekostet hat es trotzdem, weil ich mich natürlich erstmal
schlaugefragt habe, welchen der zahlreichen Lösungsansätze man am
besten geht, ohne sich bei weiteren Updates Probleme einzuhandeln.

Grüße
Marc

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Re: Finger weg von unstable!

[Sven Hartge]

Marc Haber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Marc, der in den letzten 48 Stunden zweimal X-Scherbenhaufen
 zusammenkehren durfte und derartige Aktionen in den nächsten Wochen
 weiterhin erwartet

Was ist denn bei dir zerbrochen?

Bei mir war es nur die libxcursor/libxfixes-Problematik sowie das gdm
eben kein /usr/X11R6/bin/X mehr hatte, weil das Symlinken bei mir nicht
funktioniert hat. Achja: Und anfangs die Verwirrung in Kombination mit
nvidia-glx, aber dort gab es ja schnell neue Pakete in
incoming.debian.org.

Sonst sieht das eigentlich recht gut aus hier, Scherbenhaufen würde ich
das nicht nennen.

Welche Probleme kommen denn noch, die du bereits hattest?

(Dann kann ich schon einmal die Kollegen vorwarnen.)

S°

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Re: Finger weg von unstable!

[Sven Hartge]

Sandro Frenzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Genau das denke ich mir inzwischen auch, wenn ich mir die ganzen
 Threads zu Xorg 7.0 hier so durchlese. Im Moment ist bei meinem Sid
 System alles up to date - außer halt Xorg. Und so schlimm ist das doch
 nun auch wieder nicht.  Ich verstehe nicht warum alle sich unbedingt
 mit Xorg rumschlagen wollen. 

Ich will es, weil ich damit als unstable-User der späteren
Stabilisierung des ganzen beitragen kann, in dem ich als wissender early
adaptor in die Gruben falle, in die die andere dann nicht mehr stolpern
müssen.

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Finger weg von unstable! (was: x11-common)

[Marc Haber]

On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 19:52:33 +0200 (CEST), Christoph Kaminski
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ich habe heute x11-common upgegraded (leider) und seit dem geht xorg nicht
mehr... ich bekomme immer die Meldung: could not open default font 'fixed'

Weis jemand rat?

Ja, nimm kein unstable.

Das ist jetzt die erste größere Breakage in sid seit knapp anderthalb
Jahren, und wie vorhergesagt fallen die Versionsummernjunkies ohne
technisches Hintergrundwissen reihenweise auf die Schnauze.

Unstable ist unstable, und wer mit solchen Dingen wie der aktuellen
Kaputtheit von x.org in Unstable nicht klarkommt, soll herrgottnochmal
seine Finger von instabilen Entwicklerversionen lassen.

Grüße
Marc, der in den letzten 48 Stunden zweimal X-Scherbenhaufen
zusammenkehren durfte und derartige Aktionen in den nächsten Wochen
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Re: Finger weg von unstable! (was: x11-common)

[Sandro Frenzel]

Am Sonntag 16 April 2006 09:01 schrieb Marc Haber:
 On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 19:52:33 +0200 (CEST), Christoph Kaminski

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ich habe heute x11-common upgegraded (leider) und seit dem geht xorg nicht
 mehr... ich bekomme immer die Meldung: could not open default font 'fixed'
 
 Weis jemand rat?

 Ja, nimm kein unstable.

 Das ist jetzt die erste größere Breakage in sid seit knapp anderthalb
 Jahren, und wie vorhergesagt fallen die Versionsummernjunkies ohne
 technisches Hintergrundwissen reihenweise auf die Schnauze.

 Unstable ist unstable, und wer mit solchen Dingen wie der aktuellen
 Kaputtheit von x.org in Unstable nicht klarkommt, soll herrgottnochmal
 seine Finger von instabilen Entwicklerversionen lassen.

Genau das denke ich mir inzwischen auch, wenn ich mir die ganzen Threads zu 
Xorg 7.0 hier so durchlese. Im Moment ist bei meinem Sid System alles up to 
date - außer halt Xorg. Und so schlimm ist das doch nun auch wieder nicht. 
Ich verstehe nicht warum alle sich unbedingt mit Xorg rumschlagen wollen. 

Naja...jedem das seine.

Tschau
Sandro

Re: Finger weg von unstable! (was: x11-common)

[Ingo Juergensmann]

On Sun, Apr 16, 2006 at 12:09:48PM +0200, Sandro Frenzel wrote:

 Genau das denke ich mir inzwischen auch, wenn ich mir die ganzen Threads zu 
 Xorg 7.0 hier so durchlese. Im Moment ist bei meinem Sid System alles up to 
 date - au?er halt Xorg. Und so schlimm ist das doch nun auch wieder nicht. 
 Ich verstehe nicht warum alle sich unbedingt mit Xorg rumschlagen wollen. 

Vermutlich schauen die meisten gar nicht hin, was alles bei einem
dist-upgrade aktualisiert wird und druecken bei der entsprechenden Frage
einfach Return. Schuld eigene. 

 Naja...jedem das seine.

Das sowieso... :)

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inetd listening to port 79 (finger)

[Vadim Kutsyy]

For some reason I have inetd listening to port 79 (finger).  Are there 
any reason why it should be listening to port 79?


#lsof | grep finger
inetd 11048  root4u  IPv4  827103602 TCP 
*:finger (LISTEN)


Thanks,

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Re: inetd listening to port 79 (finger)

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

Quoting Vadim Kutsyy [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

For some reason I have inetd listening to port 79 (finger).  Are 
there any reason why it should be listening to port 79?


#lsof | grep finger
inetd 11048  root4u  IPv4  827103602 TCP 
*:finger (LISTEN)


Thanks,

Vadim


Have you checked /etc/inetd.conf to see if somethig is configured to be 
run by inetd from that port?


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Re: inetd listening to port 79 (finger)

[Vadim Kutsyy]

you are right:

# cat /etc/inetd.conf | grep finger
finger  stream  tcp nowait  nobody  /usr/sbin/tcpd  
/usr/sbin/ffingerd


but interestingly enough:

#ls -la /usr/sbin/ffingerd
ls: /usr/sbin/ffingerd: No such file or directory

and

#dpkg -l ffingerd
pn  ffingerd   none (no description available)

after modifying inetd.conf, nothing is listening to port 79

Thanks,

Vadim

Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:

Quoting Vadim Kutsyy [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

For some reason I have inetd listening to port 79 (finger).  Are 
there any reason why it should be listening to port 79?


#lsof | grep finger
inetd 11048  root4u  IPv4  827103602 TCP 
*:finger (LISTEN)


Thanks,

Vadim


Have you checked /etc/inetd.conf to see if somethig is configured to 
be run by inetd from that port?


-Roberto





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Conocer usuarios con finger

[Conchita Herran]

Muy buenas compañeros:

Tengo una preguntilla de base: Con finger y fingerd 
es posible conocer todos los usuarios de un sistema remoto aunque no estén 
logueados?? Estuve echando un ojo a los manuales pero solo vi forma de hacerlo 
con los logueados. Hay alguna forma de hacerlo con otro programa?? 


Muchas gracias de nuevo

Re: Key finger

[Gustavo Noronha Silva]

Em Sat, 27 Jul 2002 00:48:42 -0300, Leandro Ferreira [EMAIL PROTECTED]
escreveu:

 Oi, 
 também tenho dúvidas sobre isso. Então os e-mails que recebemos com as
 assinaturas digitais dos listeiros não valem nada? Se não recebi o fingerprint
 pessoalmente não tenho como saber se o fulano é realmente quem diz ser? É
 isso?

É mais ou menos isso... suponhamos que você tenha me encontrado pessoalmente
e assinou minha chave. Isso significa que você confia em mim quando eu digo
quem sou. Se eu confio no Eduardo Maçan eu assino a chave dele, então você
automaticamente pode confiar nele, por causa da minha assinatura. Claro que
você, assim, está confiando que eu conferi a identidade dele com 'afinco' =)

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Re: Key finger

[Victor Maida]

On Sat, Jul 27, 2002 at 12:48:42AM -0300, Leandro Ferreira wrote:
 Oi,

Oi,

 também tenho dúvidas sobre isso. Então os e-mails que recebemos com as 
 assinaturas digitais dos
 listeiros não valem nada? 

Valem, vc só não deve assinar tais chaves como confiáveis

 Se não recebi o fingerprint pessoalmente não tenho como saber se o fulano
 é realmente quem diz ser? É isso?

é isso
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Key finger

[Alexandre Estanislau Puhl]

Olá...

não sou bom neste negócio de assinatura, criptografia, mas estou 
aprendendo, gostaria de saber a moral deste key finger, de verificar a 
assinatura. Por exemplo, abaixo segue um exemplo de uma colega da lista, 
o Caio A. Ferreira, que até quero pedir desculpas por não ter pedido 
permição de colocar isto no meu e-mail, mas aqui vai:


Gnupg ID 0x01186BE1
Key fingerprint =3D F17E 75C6 CE00 0E09 F63B  71B0 A0D2 FAD9 0118 6BE1

Grato pela atenção...
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Re: Key finger

[Victor Maida]

On Fri, Jul 26, 2002 at 01:29:33PM -0300, Alexandre Estanislau Puhl wrote:
 Olá...
 
 não sou bom neste negócio de assinatura, criptografia, mas estou 
 aprendendo, gostaria de saber a moral deste key finger, de verificar a 
 assinatura. Por exemplo, abaixo segue um exemplo de uma colega da lista, 
 o Caio A. Ferreira, que até quero pedir desculpas por não ter pedido 
 permição de colocar isto no meu e-mail, mas aqui vai:
 
 Gnupg ID 0x01186BE1
 Key fingerprint =3D F17E 75C6 CE00 0E09 F63B  71B0 A0D2 FAD9 0118 6BE1
 
A impressão digital da chave (key's fingerprint) é utilizada
para validar a chave pública que vc importou. Se a fingerprint
da chave que vc importou for a mesma que o dono da chave te
passou, de preferência pessoalmente, então vc pode assinar
aquela chave como confiável.

Você deve ser extremamente rigoroso com relação a segurança, no
que diz respeito a assinatura de chaves, só devendo assinar as
chaves cujo fingerprint foi pego por vc, pessoalmente com o dono
da chave, após verificar sua identidade através de documentos
(RG. CPF, etc).

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Re: Key finger

[Leandro Ferreira]

Em Fri, 26 Jul 2002 20:05:56 -0300
Victor Maida escreveu:

 On Fri, Jul 26, 2002 at 01:29:33PM -0300, Alexandre Estanislau Puhl wrote:
  Olá...
  
  não sou bom neste negócio de assinatura, criptografia, mas estou 
  aprendendo, gostaria de saber a moral deste key finger, de verificar a 
  assinatura. Por exemplo, abaixo segue um exemplo de uma colega da lista, 
  o Caio A. Ferreira, que até quero pedir desculpas por não ter pedido 
  permição de colocar isto no meu e-mail, mas aqui vai:
  
  Gnupg ID 0x01186BE1
  Key fingerprint =3D F17E 75C6 CE00 0E09 F63B  71B0 A0D2 FAD9 0118 6BE1
  
   A impressão digital da chave (key's fingerprint) é utilizada
   para validar a chave pública que vc importou. Se a fingerprint
   da chave que vc importou for a mesma que o dono da chave te
   passou, de preferência pessoalmente, então vc pode assinar
   aquela chave como confiável.
 
   Você deve ser extremamente rigoroso com relação a segurança, no
   que diz respeito a assinatura de chaves, só devendo assinar as
   chaves cujo fingerprint foi pego por vc, pessoalmente com o dono
   da chave, após verificar sua identidade através de documentos
   (RG. CPF, etc).
 
 []s
 
Oi, 
também tenho dúvidas sobre isso. Então os e-mails que recebemos com as 
assinaturas digitais dos
listeiros não valem nada? Se não recebi o fingerprint pessoalmente não tenho 
como saber se o fulano
é realmente quem diz ser? É isso?

Valeu

Leandro

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Re: finger ?

[Stephane Bortzmeyer]

On Saturday 22 June 2002, at 18 h 59, the keyboard of earthlink 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 est il possible, et si oui, comment connaitre le nom ou la localisation d'une
 machine connectée avec une adresse email ?

Comme déjà indiqué, une machine n'a pas d'adresse email. Si vous parlez de 
son adresse IP :

Réponse courte : non, aucun rapport entre la géographie et l'adresse IP

Réponse longue : 
   http://www.internatif.org/bortzmeyer/query-loc/
   http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d3august/xt/

 je vais essayer d'etre plus clair, existe il un moyen de connaitre 
 physiquement la geographie d'une machine à partir de son adresse mail ?

Ou bien vous parlez de l'adresse de courrier d'une personne ? Et, dans ce cas, 
pensez à hotmail.com pour voir pourquoi votre question n'a pas de réponse.



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finger ?

[earthlink]

est il possible, et si oui, comment connaitre le nom ou la localisation d'une 
machine connectée avec une adresse email ?

je vais essayer d'etre plus clair, existe il un moyen de connaitre 
physiquement la geographie d'une machine à partir de son adresse mail ?

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Re: finger ?

[Régis Grison]

Le sam 22/06/2002 à 18:59, earthlink a écrit :
 est il possible, et si oui, comment connaitre le nom ou la localisation d'une 
 machine connectée avec une adresse email ?
 
 je vais essayer d'etre plus clair, existe il un moyen de connaitre 
 physiquement la geographie d'une machine à partir de son adresse mail ?

Ben... A priori non, déjà il n'y a pas d'adresse mail pour une machine,
juste des IP et des noms de domaine...

Le but est ?

Régis.


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finger y ppp.

[Eduardo Daniel Ibarra]

   Hola: Dos dudas.

   1. ¿ Alguno tiene idea de porqué no tengo finger
  en mi Debian Potato 2.2.17 ?.
  Hago man finger... y nada...

   2. Estoy tratando de usar pon y poff
  para comunicarme remotamente desde
  casa a mi laboratorio, por via telefónica,
  pero no consigo hacerlo.

  Uso pppconfig y no hay caso.

  Toqueteo las líneas de:
 /etc/ppp.chatscript
 /etc/pppoptions
 /etc/resolv.conf
 /etc/ppp/pap-secrets
  y no pasa nada...

  Sin embargo, el comando wvdial sí me permite
  llegar a ver hasta la pantalla de bienvenida
  (incluso automáticamente ingresa el login y el passwd).
  Pero luego del ingreso al sistema Linux remoto,
  wvdial elije una opción no válida que hace que se
  corte la comiunicación.

  ¿ Qué archivos hace falta tocar ?
  ¿ Cuáles no ?
  ¿ Algún documento claro que explique qué hacer ?

  Miré las man, pero creo que me marean más.
  En todo caso, ¿ cuáles debería mirar, sí o sí ?

  Miro algunas ayudas (documentpos) sobre
  cómo configurar ppp, pero evidentemente
  los pasos que sugieren estos help,
  dependen de la versión del Debian
  (son diferentes cosas las que hay que hacer!).


  Bueno, desde ya gracias por la ayuda.

Eduardo.


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Re: finger y ppp.

[Héctor A. Rompato Carricart]

Eduardo Daniel Ibarra wrote:


  Hola: Dos dudas.

  1. ¿ Alguno tiene idea de porqué no tengo finger
 en mi Debian Potato 2.2.17 ?.
 Hago man finger... y nada...

No tenés instaladas las herramientas de red, buscalas entre los paquetes 
(hay que usar dselect)





  2. Estoy tratando de usar pon y poff
 para comunicarme remotamente desde
 casa a mi laboratorio, por via telefónica,
 pero no consigo hacerlo.

¿La máquina del laboratorio está bien configurada?, ¿tu usuario es 
aceptado como usuario remoto válido (ver /etc/host.allow y /etc/host.deny)?





 Uso pppconfig y no hay caso.

 Toqueteo las líneas de:
/etc/ppp.chatscript
/etc/pppoptions
/etc/resolv.conf
/etc/ppp/pap-secrets
 y no pasa nada...

 Sin embargo, el comando wvdial sí me permite
 llegar a ver hasta la pantalla de bienvenida
 (incluso automáticamente ingresa el login y el passwd).
 Pero luego del ingreso al sistema Linux remoto,
 wvdial elije una opción no válida que hace que se
 corte la comiunicación.

 ¿ Qué archivos hace falta tocar ?
 ¿ Cuáles no ?
 ¿ Algún documento claro que explique qué hacer ?

 Miré las man, pero creo que me marean más.
 En todo caso, ¿ cuáles debería mirar, sí o sí ?

Podés mirar el PPP-Como, quizás lo tengas instalado en 
/usr/share/doc/HOWTO/es/HOWTO, si no es así te sugiero que los instales. 
También tenés un Redes-En-Linux-Como para poder mirar (tengo instalado 
potato, así que vos también deberías tener estos documentos)




 Miro algunas ayudas (documentpos) sobre
 cómo configurar ppp, pero evidentemente
 los pasos que sugieren estos help,
 dependen de la versión del Debian
 (son diferentes cosas las que hay que hacer!).


 Bueno, desde ya gracias por la ayuda.

   Eduardo.


Aprovecho que Eduardo es de un organismo oficial para preguntar en la 
lista, ¿qué les pasa a las universidades argentinas y a esos organismos 
que no se prenden en un proyecto como Debian?, ¿acaso Micro$oft pone 
algún dinerillo?

Salu2

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RE: finger y ppp.

[Luis Cano]

apt-get install finger.

-Mensaje original-
De: Héctor A. Rompato Carricart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviado el: jueves, 25 de abril de 2002 18:15
Para: Lista-02
Asunto: Re: finger y ppp.




Eduardo Daniel Ibarra wrote:

   Hola: Dos dudas.

   1. ¿ Alguno tiene idea de porqué no tengo finger
  en mi Debian Potato 2.2.17 ?.
  Hago man finger... y nada...

No tenés instaladas las herramientas de red, buscalas entre los paquetes
(hay que usar dselect)



   2. Estoy tratando de usar pon y poff
  para comunicarme remotamente desde
  casa a mi laboratorio, por via telefónica,
  pero no consigo hacerlo.

¿La máquina del laboratorio está bien configurada?, ¿tu usuario es
aceptado como usuario remoto válido (ver /etc/host.allow y /etc/host.deny)?



  Uso pppconfig y no hay caso.

  Toqueteo las líneas de:
 /etc/ppp.chatscript
 /etc/pppoptions
 /etc/resolv.conf
 /etc/ppp/pap-secrets
  y no pasa nada...

  Sin embargo, el comando wvdial sí me permite
  llegar a ver hasta la pantalla de bienvenida
  (incluso automáticamente ingresa el login y el passwd).
  Pero luego del ingreso al sistema Linux remoto,
  wvdial elije una opción no válida que hace que se
  corte la comiunicación.

  ¿ Qué archivos hace falta tocar ?
  ¿ Cuáles no ?
  ¿ Algún documento claro que explique qué hacer ?

  Miré las man, pero creo que me marean más.
  En todo caso, ¿ cuáles debería mirar, sí o sí ?

Podés mirar el PPP-Como, quizás lo tengas instalado en
/usr/share/doc/HOWTO/es/HOWTO, si no es así te sugiero que los instales.
También tenés un Redes-En-Linux-Como para poder mirar (tengo instalado
potato, así que vos también deberías tener estos documentos)


  Miro algunas ayudas (documentpos) sobre
  cómo configurar ppp, pero evidentemente
  los pasos que sugieren estos help,
  dependen de la versión del Debian
  (son diferentes cosas las que hay que hacer!).


  Bueno, desde ya gracias por la ayuda.

Eduardo.


Aprovecho que Eduardo es de un organismo oficial para preguntar en la
lista, ¿qué les pasa a las universidades argentinas y a esos organismos
que no se prenden en un proyecto como Debian?, ¿acaso Micro$oft pone
algún dinerillo?
Salu2

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Re: finger y ppp.

[Eduardo Daniel Ibarra]

On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Héctor A. Rompato Carricart wrote:

 Eduardo Daniel Ibarra wrote:
 
2. Estoy tratando de usar pon y poff
   para comunicarme remotamente desde
   casa a mi laboratorio, por via telefónica,
   pero no consigo hacerlo.
 
 ¿La máquina del laboratorio está bien configurada?, ¿tu usuario es 
 aceptado como usuario remoto válido (ver /etc/host.allow y /etc/host.deny)?


  Sí, la red del Centro Atómico Bariloche
  (a la que quiero ingresar)
  SEGURO está bien configurada.
 

   Uso pppconfig y no hay caso.
 
   Toqueteo las líneas de:
  /etc/ppp.chatscript
  /etc/pppoptions
  /etc/resolv.conf
  /etc/ppp/pap-secrets
   y no pasa nada...
 
   Sin embargo, el comando wvdial sí me permite
   llegar a ver hasta la pantalla de bienvenida
   (incluso automáticamente ingresa el login y el passwd).
   Pero luego del ingreso al sistema Linux remoto,
   wvdial elije una opción no válida que hace que se
   corte la comiunicación.
 
   ¿ Qué archivos hace falta tocar ?
   ¿ Cuáles no ?
   ¿ Algún documento claro que explique qué hacer ?
 
   Miré las man, pero creo que me marean más.
   En todo caso, ¿ cuáles debería mirar, sí o sí ?
 
 Podés mirar el PPP-Como, quizás lo tengas instalado en 
 /usr/share/doc/HOWTO/es/HOWTO, si no es así te sugiero que los instales. 
 También tenés un Redes-En-Linux-Como para poder mirar (tengo instalado 
 potato, así que vos también deberías tener estos documentos)
 

  Voy a Mirar estas ayudas... Gracias.


 
   Miro algunas ayudas (documentpos) sobre
   cómo configurar ppp, pero evidentemente
   los pasos que sugieren estos help,
   dependen de la versión del Debian
   (son diferentes cosas las que hay que hacer!).
 
 
   Bueno, desde ya gracias por la ayuda.
 
 Eduardo.
 
 Aprovecho que Eduardo es de un organismo oficial para preguntar en la 
 lista, ¿qué les pasa a las universidades argentinas y a esos organismos 
 que no se prenden en un proyecto como Debian?, ¿acaso Micro$oft pone 
 algún dinerillo?
 Salu2

  Acá el Administrador tiene la red trabajando
  bajo Linux Red Hat 7.algo.

  Hay algunas personas aquí que apoyan Debian,
  y saben bastante del tema, pero no son los
  que administran la red grande.

  Lamentablemente no puedo abusar demasiado
  del tiempo de estas personas,
  ya los molesto con otras consultas sobre Debian,
  y por eso a veces prefiero consultar a la lista.
  (Sepan disculpar).

  El documento de ayuda que encontré en la red interna
  (que escribieron como ayuda para conectarse
  desde afuera) está pensado para Windows 95/98,
  y no encontré un equivalente para Linux.
  Si puedo esribir uno, voy a sugerir que lo
  cuelguen en la red para otros despistados como yo.

  Bueno, gracias y hasta pronto.
  Eduardo.
  


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finger, as it pertains to mail

[Nick Furman]

I recently did a large mail upgrade and installed a new mail server that
incorporates mail hashing (i.e /var/spool/u/s/user).  As expected, my
finger command on any user now reports that the user has no mail.  Is this
an actual finger problem, or does something have to be defined in the
users home directory?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks!

Nick

Please CC me on the reply.  Thanks.

Re: finger, as it pertains to mail

[Greg Wiley]

On Monday, December 03, 2001 8:40 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 I recently did a large mail upgrade and installed a new mail server that
 incorporates mail hashing (i.e /var/spool/u/s/user).  As expected, my
 finger command on any user now reports that the user has no mail.  Is this
 an actual finger problem, or does something have to be defined in the
 users home directory?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks!

The default finger program uses the _PATH_MAILDIR #define from
paths.h, which is /var/mail, to locate a user's mailfile.  There is no
logic or hook to find an alternate location.

There are configurable finger daemons packaged in Deb, one of them
(cfingerd?) lets you run arbitrary scripts.

Hope it helps,

  -=greg

Re: Finger Command

[Martin F Krafft]

also sprach Nick Furman (on Tue, 11 Sep 2001 09:05:05PM -0400):
  it's either mtime or atime of the inode of that user's mailbox.
 
 Could you share with me where that might be viewed?  ls -al doesn't show
 me the desired information.

install the 'stat' package, then `stat filename`

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Finger Command

[Nick Furman]

Can someone tell me where finger gets it's information on the system, when
it displays when the user last checked their email.  I guess it reads
/var/spool/mail/(user) for the date of mail last received, but I am
unclear where it gets the information for when the user last checked mail.

Thanks in advance.

Best Regards,

Nicholas K. Furman
Systems  Network Administrator
J-Link Computer  Internet Services
157 West Main Street   Ph:(570)389-6400
Bloomsburg, PA 17815   http://www.jlink.net

Re: Finger Command

[Martin F Krafft]

also sprach Nick Furman (on Tue, 11 Sep 2001 12:50:30PM -0400):
 Can someone tell me where finger gets it's information on the system, when
 it displays when the user last checked their email.  I guess it reads
 /var/spool/mail/(user) for the date of mail last received, but I am
 unclear where it gets the information for when the user last checked mail.

it's either mtime or atime of the inode of that user's mailbox.

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Re: Finger

[Karsten M. Self]

on Sat, May 26, 2001 at 12:43:29PM +0200, Csontos B. Laszlo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
 
 Dear List members,
 
 I've realized the following problem on my machine. When I perform a finger
 command, I'll get the following:
 
 LoginName   Tty  Idle  Login Time   Office Office 
 Phone
 adminSystem administra  pts/1  May 24 19:01 (192.168.1.42)
 egon Csizmadia Gaborpts/3  May 24 19:01 (192.168.1.54)
 laceeCsontos B. Laszlo  pts/2  May 24 19:01 (192.168.1.42)
 
 I don't know why aren't the IPs resolved. I've got internal DNS.

Curious.  In my case, hosts are resolved through finger, whether I'm
querying the local sever or remote ones.

 I've tried different diagnostic procedures, like this:
 
 [root:~]# host 192.168.1.54
 Name: d21.b8.jagik.sulinet.hu
 Address: 192.168.1.54
 
 [root:~]# nslookup 192.168.1.54
 Server:  localhost
 Address:  127.0.0.1
 
 Name:d21.b8.jagik.sulinet.hu
 Address:  192.168.1.54
 
 resolv.conf:
 
 nameserver 127.0.0.1

...if you're fingering a remote server, does this server have an entry
for your DNS box?  Not sure that this matters, but I had a rather
flagrently broken DNS here until I got reverse DNS configured propery
and convinced one of my boxen to stop rewriting its resolv.conf.

 nameserver 195.199.74.125
 nameserver 195.199.0.157
 domain jagik.sulinet.hu
 search jagik.sulinet.hu
 
 host.conf:
 
 order hosts,bind
 multi on

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Finger

[Csontos B. Laszlo]

Dear List members,

I've realized the following problem on my machine. When I perform a finger
command, I'll get the following:

LoginName   Tty  Idle  Login Time   Office Office Phone
adminSystem administra  pts/1  May 24 19:01 (192.168.1.42)
egon Csizmadia Gaborpts/3  May 24 19:01 (192.168.1.54)
laceeCsontos B. Laszlo  pts/2  May 24 19:01 (192.168.1.42)

I don't know why aren't the IPs resolved. I've got internal DNS.

I've tried different diagnostic procedures, like this:

[root:~]# host 192.168.1.54
Name: d21.b8.jagik.sulinet.hu
Address: 192.168.1.54

[root:~]# nslookup 192.168.1.54
Server:  localhost
Address:  127.0.0.1

Name:d21.b8.jagik.sulinet.hu
Address:  192.168.1.54

resolv.conf:

nameserver 127.0.0.1
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who/finger output - billions of pts

[MaD dUCK]

hey all,
want to help me figure something out? i am a former redhat/suse person
finally having ascended to debian. there is something peculiar that i
noticed which i cannot explain with my (pretty good) linux knowledge.

so on either suse or debian, i use xdm to start windowmaker after login
and i have some 20 or so rxvt's created for my convenience at startup.

on the suse machine, the finger output with a local windowmaker
session and a remote ssh login looks as follows:

Login Name   Tty  Idle  Login Time   Office Office Phone
madduck   MaD dUCK  *:0 Feb 18 10:42 Robot Lab 1-610-328x8618
madduck   MaD dUCK   pts/2  Feb 20 12:48 (d136.sproul.swarthmore.edu)


on my debian system, finger looks as follows:

LoginName   Tty  Idle  Login Time   Office Office Phone
madduck  MaD dUCK   :0 Feb 19 16:00 (console)
madduck  MaD dUCK   pts/0   19:16  Feb 19 16:01 (:0)
madduck  MaD dUCK   pts/2   19:15  Feb 19 16:02 (:0)
...

and a line for every terminal i opened on :0

why is this? what's different about wtmp/utmp (i presume) on
suse/redhat than on debian? i don't want finger to show 20+ logins of
my account when all i did was login once and opened xterms
otherwise...

any pointers?

thanks,
martin

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Re: who/finger output - billions of pts

[Erdmut Pfeifer]

On Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 12:57:52PM -0500, MaD dUCK wrote:
 hey all,
 want to help me figure something out? i am a former redhat/suse person
 finally having ascended to debian. there is something peculiar that i
 noticed which i cannot explain with my (pretty good) linux knowledge.
 
 so on either suse or debian, i use xdm to start windowmaker after login
 and i have some 20 or so rxvt's created for my convenience at startup.
 
 on the suse machine, the finger output with a local windowmaker
 session and a remote ssh login looks as follows:
 
 Login Name   Tty  Idle  Login Time   Office Office Phone
 madduck   MaD dUCK  *:0 Feb 18 10:42 Robot Lab 1-610-328x8618
 madduck   MaD dUCK   pts/2  Feb 20 12:48 (d136.sproul.swarthmore.edu)
 
 
 on my debian system, finger looks as follows:
 
 LoginName   Tty  Idle  Login Time   Office Office Phone
 madduck  MaD dUCK   :0 Feb 19 16:00 (console)
 madduck  MaD dUCK   pts/0   19:16  Feb 19 16:01 (:0)
 madduck  MaD dUCK   pts/2   19:15  Feb 19 16:02 (:0)
 ...
 
 and a line for every terminal i opened on :0
 
 why is this? what's different about wtmp/utmp (i presume) on
 suse/redhat than on debian? i don't want finger to show 20+ logins of
 my account when all i did was login once and opened xterms
 otherwise...
 
 any pointers?

rxvt has a compile-time option for wtmp/utmp support. Maybe that's
where the distros differ...
For testing purposes you might want to roll one your own rxvt
(reasonably simple) without wtmp/utmp support and see if the
problem/feature goes away.
(Or, if you are lucky, the one from SuSe runs on Debian too...)

Erdmut


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Re: who/finger output - billions of pts

[MaD dUCK]

also sprach Erdmut Pfeifer (on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 07:21:09PM +0100):
 rxvt has a compile-time option for wtmp/utmp support. Maybe that's
 where the distros differ...

the same happens when i use xterm. but i just now remembered that
i use aterm on suse, and with aterm, no additional utmp login is
registered. so i guess your solution about the compile time support of
rxvt is valid. a shame because i don't have time to roll my own and i
really want to stick with dpkg.

thanks though!
martin

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Re: who/finger output - billions of pts

[Bram Dumolin]

re,

Erdmut Pfeifer([EMAIL PROTECTED])@Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 07:21:09PM +0100:
 On Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 12:57:52PM -0500, MaD dUCK wrote:
 
  why is this? what's different about wtmp/utmp (i presume) on
  suse/redhat than on debian? i don't want finger to show 20+ logins of
  my account when all i did was login once and opened xterms
  otherwise...
  
  any pointers?
 
 rxvt has a compile-time option for wtmp/utmp support. Maybe that's
 where the distros differ...
 For testing purposes you might want to roll one your own rxvt
 (reasonably simple) without wtmp/utmp support and see if the
 problem/feature goes away.
 (Or, if you are lucky, the one from SuSe runs on Debian too...)

or just remove the -s bit, then it won't be able to write to the [uw]tmp file.
I don't know if it's sgid or suid but just chmod 0755 it.

(note: I can't check it here as none of my Workstations run Debian for the 
moment.
I know, I know, but for work I had to install Mandrake, and on my Powerbook the 
thing that installed the fastest was Suse which I got from a friend.
And here in Sri Lanka, the lines are too slow to download the cdimage in a 
reasonable timespan, I should get one of those cheapbytes sent to me (which 
will probably take 2 months to get here *sigh*))

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Re: who/finger output - billions of pts

[Colin Watson]

MaD dUCK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
why is this? what's different about wtmp/utmp (i presume) on
suse/redhat than on debian? i don't want finger to show 20+ logins of
my account when all i did was login once and opened xterms
otherwise...

You could try starting 'xterm -ut' or 'rxvt -ut' instead to inhibit
writing to the utmp file. rxvt also has an X resource you can set to do
this for all rxvts: it's documented in the man page.

Cheers,

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Re: who/finger output - billions of pts

[Ethan Benson]

On Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 12:57:52PM -0500, MaD dUCK wrote:
 and a line for every terminal i opened on :0
 
 why is this? what's different about wtmp/utmp (i presume) on
 suse/redhat than on debian? i don't want finger to show 20+ logins of
 my account when all i did was login once and opened xterms
 otherwise...

this is because debian *terms register themselves in the utmp file.
this is a feature, if the terms are not registered no other user can
write(1) you.  i personally find that a good thing YMMV.  

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configurar servicios (ftp, telnet, finger...)

[=?iso-8859-1?Q?Ferm=EDn_Manzanedo?=]

Hola,
una vez resuelto el tema de los usuarios y passwd continuo con el correo que 
iba a mandar a la lista. Tengo una conexión desde casa a internet, y me he dado 
cuenta de que, novato de mi, tengo un montón de servicios disponibles que dudo 
mucho utilice alguna vez.
Esto es lo que sale al hacer un netstat -ta en mi máquina:

Active Internet connections (servers and established)
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address   Foreign Address State
tcp0  0 localhost.localdo:16001 localhost.localdom:2840 ESTABLISHED
tcp0  0 localhost.localdom:2840 localhost.localdo:16001 ESTABLISHED
tcp0  0 *:4000  *:* LISTEN
tcp0  0 localhost.localdo:16001 localhost.localdom:1096 ESTABLISHED
tcp0  0 localhost.localdom:1096 localhost.localdo:16001 ESTABLISHED
tcp0  0 localhost.localdo:16001 *:* LISTEN
tcp  220  0 213.4.234.207:1093  64.124.41.224.naps: ESTABLISHED
tcp0  0 *:1030  *:* LISTEN
tcp0  0 *:6000  *:* LISTEN
tcp0  0 *:printer   *:* LISTEN
tcp0  0 *:auth  *:* LISTEN
tcp0  0 *:finger*:* LISTEN
tcp0  0 *:smtp  *:* LISTEN
tcp0  0 *:ftp   *:* LISTEN
tcp0  0 *:telnet*:* LISTEN
tcp0  0 *:time  *:* LISTEN
tcp0  0 *:daytime   *:* LISTEN
tcp0  0 *:discard   *:* LISTEN
tcp0  0 *:738   *:* LISTEN
tcp0  0 *:1024  *:* LISTEN
tcp0  0 *:sunrpc*:* LISTEN

De utilizar alguna vez, serían el ftp, smtp(lógicamente, ¿no?), imagino que 
printer (¿impresora?) y el X11 (este último nunca desde remoto). En alguna 
ocasión telnet.
No se lo que significan daytime, sunrpc, kerberos (creo que sirve para recordar 
la contraseña, ¿no?), ni discard. También utilizaría gnomeICU y el napster, que 
me imagino que utilizarán algún puerto de los anteriores(en el momento de hacer 
netstat -at estaban abiertos).
El ftp siempre (o casi siempre) sería a la misma máquina (al igual que el 
telnet). De todas formas, si en /etc/hosts.deny y hosts.allow pongo solo el de 
esa máquina siempre podría cambiarlo y poner la IP de la otra ¿no?.

En concreto, mi pregunta es: ¿Qué servicios puedo mantener y cuales me 
recomendáis quitar? y, ¿Cómo puedo cerrar los puertos que no voy a utilizar?. 
He leído el Security-HOWTO pero no me lo ha aclarado mucho...

Perdonad por la extensión del mail y muchas gracias de antemano. Un saludo.
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Re: configurar servicios (ftp, telnet, finger...)

[Carles Pina i Estany]

Hola
 
 De utilizar alguna vez, serían el ftp, smtp(lógicamente, ¿no?), imagino que 
 printer (¿impresora?) y el X11 (este último nunca desde remoto). En alguna 
 ocasión telnet.
 No se lo que significan daytime, sunrpc, kerberos (creo que sirve para 
 recordar la contraseña, ¿no?), ni discard. También utilizaría gnomeICU y el 
 napster, que me imagino que utilizarán algún puerto de los anteriores(en el 
 momento de hacer netstat -at estaban abiertos).
 El ftp siempre (o casi siempre) sería a la misma máquina (al igual que el 
 telnet). De todas formas, si en /etc/hosts.deny y hosts.allow pongo solo el 
 de esa máquina siempre podría cambiarlo y poner la IP de la otra ¿no?.
 
 En concreto, mi pregunta es: ¿Qué servicios puedo mantener y cuales me 
 recomendáis quitar? y, ¿Cómo puedo cerrar los puertos que no voy a utilizar?. 
 He leído el Security-HOWTO pero no me lo ha aclarado mucho...
coge el /etc/inetd.conf y comentas lo que no quieras (recuerda que es
parte servidor, para usar napster no hay ninguan referencia en el
inetd.conf)

entonces haces /etc/init.d/inetd restart y ya tendrás más cerrados

es posible que tengas algun daemon corriendo que te abra un puerto, miralo
con ps aux a ver si hay sendmail en el 25 o algo así...

suerte


 
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Re: finger

[Matt Folwell]

On Mon, May 22, 2000 at 02:00:11PM -0500, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
 I've replaced finger altogether for off-site finger requests with a nice
 little perl script guaranteed to confuse and amuse.  Try fingering
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Try it several times :)

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finger

[Rostislav Vorobyev]

Dear friends,

Can someone explain me why people are not set 4755 permission on a finger
program? I see good reasons to do that: if a user does not allow to see
his/her ~user tree, finger will display .plan, .project and maybe .pgp --
depends on finger version -- in any case. Maybe is there the special
reasons do not do that? Security? Else?


Thank you in advance,

Rost

Re: finger

[Ethan Benson]

On Mon, May 22, 2000 at 07:01:00AM +, Rostislav Vorobyev wrote:
 Dear friends,
 
 Can someone explain me why people are not set 4755 permission on a finger
 program? I see good reasons to do that: if a user does not allow to see
 his/her ~user tree, finger will display .plan, .project and maybe .pgp --
 depends on finger version -- in any case. Maybe is there the special
 reasons do not do that? Security? Else?

gah, are you suggesting finger be suid root ??? that fingerd be run as
root??  oh my!  yes that is a huge security hole.

back in the day they used to do exactly that, then users discovered
they could symlink .plan to /etc/shadow or any other file they should
not be allowed to see, finger themself and cha ching there is
/etc/shadow!

finger running as root is a very bad thing.  if users want thier .plan
to show they should chmod a+r on it and chmod a+x $HOME.  that will
allow finger to see the .plan but not anyone to ls the home
directory.  of course if they have an insane umask like 022, 002 or
such then all there files will be readable to all, the obvious
solution of couse is not to use such a horrible umask and use 027 or
007 instead.

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Re: finger

[Lindsay Haisley]

It's possible to make .plan or .project to be named pipes, which means that
the act of reading them can cause code to be executed.  If finger executes
suid root, then said code can execute as root.  The potential for mischief
should be obvious.

Thus spake Rostislav Vorobyev on Mon, May 22, 2000 at 02:01:00AM CDT
 Dear friends,
 
 Can someone explain me why people are not set 4755 permission on a finger
 program? I see good reasons to do that: if a user does not allow to see
 his/her ~user tree, finger will display .plan, .project and maybe .pgp --
 depends on finger version -- in any case. Maybe is there the special
 reasons do not do that? Security? Else?
 
 
 Thank you in advance,
 
 Rost
 
 
 
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Re: finger

[Oswald Buddenhagen]

 It's possible to make .plan or .project to be named pipes, which means that
 the act of reading them can cause code to be executed.  If finger executes
 suid root, then said code can execute as root.  The potential for mischief
 should be obvious.
 
could you explain this a bit?
from my knowledge trying to read a pipe does not execute any process. if
there is nothing on the other end then there is simply no data available.
and i also cannot imagine, that finger executes the data read from the
.plan and .project files - otherwise anybody could make his files trojan
horses, which attack any user which fingers the evil user.
did i miss something? just curious ...

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Re: finger

[Lindsay Haisley]

Thus spake Oswald Buddenhagen on Mon, May 22, 2000 at 07:17:55AM CDT
  It's possible to make .plan or .project to be named pipes, which means that
  the act of reading them can cause code to be executed.  If finger executes
  suid root, then said code can execute as root.  The potential for mischief
  should be obvious.
  
 could you explain this a bit?
 from my knowledge trying to read a pipe does not execute any process. if
 there is nothing on the other end then there is simply no data available.
 and i also cannot imagine, that finger executes the data read from the
 .plan and .project files - otherwise anybody could make his files trojan
 horses, which attack any user which fingers the evil user.
 did i miss something? just curious ...

I may have misspoken on this.  I believe that there are exploits involving
finger and executable code, but I'm not sure of the details since it's been
a while.  I gave the issue some thought last night after I posted this and
couldn't figure it out either.  You can, of course, create a named pipe
called .plan and attach an executable to write to it when it's opened for
reading, but this process should execute with the permission of the writing
process rather than the reading process.  The issue of creating symlinks to
private system files and being able to read them with a setuid finger is
probably more compelling.

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Re: finger

[Will Lowe]

 I may have misspoken on this.  I believe that there are exploits involving
 finger and executable code, but I'm not sure of the details since it's been
 a while.  I gave the issue some thought last night after I posted this and

There have also been buffer overflows in _every_ version of finger since
time began.  They keep saying they're fixed, and then somebody finds
another. Running such things as root is _BAD_.  :)

Will

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Re: finger

[Lindsay Haisley]

I've replaced finger altogether for off-site finger requests with a nice
little perl script guaranteed to confuse and amuse.  Try fingering
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Try it several times :)

I'll be glad to share the script with anyone who wants it.

Thus spake Will Lowe on Mon, May 22, 2000 at 01:51:41PM CDT
  I may have misspoken on this.  I believe that there are exploits involving
  finger and executable code, but I'm not sure of the details since it's been
  a while.  I gave the issue some thought last night after I posted this and
 
 There have also been buffer overflows in _every_ version of finger since
 time began.  They keep saying they're fixed, and then somebody finds
 another. Running such things as root is _BAD_.  :)
 
   Will
 
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Re: finger

[John Carline]

Lindsay Haisley wrote:

 I've replaced finger altogether for off-site finger requests with a nice
 little perl script guaranteed to confuse and amuse.  Try fingering
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Try it several times :)

 I'll be glad to share the script with anyone who wants it.

I like it ;-) Will it remember me when I try again tomorrow?

John

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Re: finger

[Brad]

On Mon, May 22, 2000 at 02:00:11PM -0500, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
 I've replaced finger altogether for off-site finger requests with a nice
 little perl script guaranteed to confuse and amuse.  Try fingering
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finger from another hosts

[ChangMin Oh]

My host allow 'finger user' from any hosts~!

How can I disallow doing it from others except my host ?

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Re: finger from another hosts

[Andy Bradford]

Thus said ChangMin Oh on Fri, 31 Mar 2000 16:40:16 +0900:

 My host allow 'finger user' from any hosts~!
 
 How can I disallow doing it from others except my host ?

In /etc/hosts.deny add something like the following:
in.fingerd: ALL

And then in /etc/hosts.allow add something like the following:
in.fingerd: 1.2.3.4

Where 1.2.3.4 is the IP address of the host that you want to allow.

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Re: finger from another hosts

[Oswald Buddenhagen]

  My host allow 'finger user' from any hosts~!
  
  How can I disallow doing it from others except my host ?
 
 In /etc/hosts.deny add something like the following:
 in.fingerd: ALL
 
 And then in /etc/hosts.allow add something like the following:
 in.fingerd: 1.2.3.4
 
 Where 1.2.3.4 is the IP address of the host that you want to allow.
 
there is a more radical way: edit /etc/inetd.conf and comment out the
line with in.fingerd. killall -HUP inetd - done.
you don't need the finger daemon at all, if you don't want remote hosts to
finger your system.

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Re: Is it possible for finger to not show .forward?

[David Karlin]

On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 03:49:34PM -, Pollywog wrote:
 On 21-Mar-2000 Oswald Buddenhagen wrote:
  Hello,
  I finally got around to trying out exim's built-in sorting, and
  it seems to be working great so far.
  
  [...]
  
  Is there a way to get finger to not show .forward?
  
  
  simply chmod 600 .forward - at least on solaris this works ...
 
 I don't think that works on Linux; it did not work for me, anyway.
 
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