Re: How to access external USB hard drive?

2004-12-28 Thread Matt Zagrabelny

 Do I need hotplug installed for the kernel to see the drive?  It's
 currently not installed.

no, you shouldnt (although it is a good package), instead try a
different kernel. (either compile your own from kernel.org or
up/downgrade to either 2.6.7 or 2.6.9)

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Re: How to access external USB hard drive?

2004-12-28 Thread Jonathan Lassoff
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 08:34:36 -0600, Matt Zagrabelny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Do I need hotplug installed for the kernel to see the drive?  It's
  currently not installed.

 no, you shouldnt (although it is a good package), instead try a
 different kernel. (either compile your own from kernel.org or
 up/downgrade to either 2.6.7 or 2.6.9)

 -matt zagrabelny

I'm not sure what was said above on this thread, as the archives for
this are a mess, but I'm guessing you won't need to compile a whole
new kernel. If you are using a stock kernel from debian, you can get
the source and just compile USB Support (if you do not have it) and
the usb-storage.ko (or .o if your on 2.4) module is all you should
need to support most usb storage drives on the market.

Hope you don't have to compile a new kernel,
Jonathan


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Re: How to access external USB hard drive?

2004-12-25 Thread René Seindal
Matt Perry wrote (25-12-2004 08:46):
On Sat, 25 Dec 2004, Ron Johnson wrote:

Is usbfs in your /etc/fstab?
$ cat /etc/mtab | grep usbfs
usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs rw 0 0

I just found an old firewire card that I had laying around and tried
that.  The enclosure has firewire so I figured it'd be worth a shot.
It worked find with the ohci1394 and sbp2 drivers.  I think I'll just
stick with this.  USB seems to have some problems on this motherboard.
I have an Asus M2N laptop and a separate IDE disk enclosure, with the 
same behaviour.  I can access the disk through firewire, but the USB2 
interface on the inclosure gives no response whatsoever.

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How to access external USB hard drive?

2004-12-24 Thread Matt Perry
Hi everyone.  I'm running Debian Sarge with kernel 2.6.8-1-686 (from
the deb kernel package).  I just bought a USB drive enclosure with a
drive that I wish to mount in Debian.  I'm not sure what I need to do
to make this happen.

I plugged the unit into the USB port but I didn't see anything appear
in the syslog.  I also did modprobe usb-storage which also appeared
to do nothing.  I know the drive and enclosure are good since I was
able to use it on a Windows box.  USB is enabled in my BIOS settings.

Any suggestions on how to get this to work?  I'm not sure what I need
to look at next.

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Re: How to access external USB hard drive?

2004-12-24 Thread Darryl Clarke
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:19:35 -0800 (PST), Matt Perry
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi everyone.  I'm running Debian Sarge with kernel 2.6.8-1-686 (from
 the deb kernel package).  I just bought a USB drive enclosure with a
 drive that I wish to mount in Debian.  I'm not sure what I need to do
 to make this happen.
 
 I plugged the unit into the USB port but I didn't see anything appear
 in the syslog.  I also did modprobe usb-storage which also appeared
 to do nothing.  I know the drive and enclosure are good since I was
 able to use it on a Windows box.  USB is enabled in my BIOS settings.
 
 Any suggestions on how to get this to work?  I'm not sure what I need
 to look at next.

If you check 'dmesg' output right after you plug it in you should see
something similar to this:

(this is my compact flash reader, but my harddrives behave the same)

usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using address 10
scsi15 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
  Vendor: Genesys   Model: USB to IDE Card   Rev: 0113
  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
SCSI device sdj: 1000945 512-byte hdwr sectors (512 MB)
sdj: assuming Write Enabled
sdj: assuming drive cache: write through
 /dev/scsi/host15/bus0/target0/lun0: p1
Attached scsi removable disk sdj at scsi15, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
USB Mass Storage device found at 10

it created a  device 'sdj' to represent the card, with a single partition.

You need to make sure a handful of modules are installed. modprobe of
usb_storage _should_ have loaded the majority of them. In which case
you should see a whole bunch of neatstuff in dmesg.

You can check and see what modules are loaded by using 
lsmod 
or 
cat /proc/modules

I use a stock 2.6.8-1-k7 image and modules.

I also have udev and hotplug installed to handle the devices. 

It can be very complicated unfortunately. So I would suggest starting
to see if you have hotplug installed... maybe that will lead you.

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Re: How to access external USB hard drive?

2004-12-24 Thread Matt Perry
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004, Darryl Clarke wrote:

 If you check 'dmesg' output right after you plug it in you should see
 something similar to this:
 [snip]

I tried that and there was no new output in dmesg.  At the time the
usb drivers that are loaded are usbkbd and usbcore.  After plugging it
in and not seeing anything from dmesg I ran modprobe usb-storage.
This was all that was added to dmesg:

Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage
USB Mass Storage support registered.

 It can be very complicated unfortunately. So I would suggest starting
 to see if you have hotplug installed... maybe that will lead you.

Do I need hotplug installed for the kernel to see the drive?  It's
currently not installed.

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Re: How to access external USB hard drive?

2004-12-24 Thread Darryl Clarke
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:45:41 -0800 (PST), Matt Perry
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, 24 Dec 2004, Darryl Clarke wrote:
 
[snip]
 
 Do I need hotplug installed for the kernel to see the drive?  It's
 currently not installed.

Maybe? I can not confirm that. All I know is that it manages my usb
devices and it works for my 4 USB2 HDs.  At least it's easy to remove
if it doesn't work ;)

I can say that they use SCSI emulation, so maybe some scsi modules are missing.
I have sd_mod (scsi disk) and scsi_mod (base scsi support) loaded

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Re: How to access external USB hard drive?

2004-12-24 Thread Matt Perry
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004, Darryl Clarke wrote:

 Maybe? I can not confirm that. All I know is that it manages my usb
 devices and it works for my 4 USB2 HDs.  At least it's easy to remove
 if it doesn't work ;)
 
 I can say that they use SCSI emulation, so maybe some scsi modules are 
 missing.
 I have sd_mod (scsi disk) and scsi_mod (base scsi support) loaded

Hmm.  Still not working.  I've never used the USB ports on this
motherboard before so I'm suspecting that I have a hardware problem.
Oh well.  Thanks for your help.  Looks like I might be upgrading
soon.  :-)

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Re: How to access external USB hard drive?

2004-12-24 Thread Xinjiang Lu
I am doing the old way.
Edit /etc/fstab, add an entry of the device.
After plug in the usb hd, there won't be automount. I have to do it in 
command line or click the icon in the gnome/my computer.

-Xinjiang
Matt Perry wrote:
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004, Darryl Clarke wrote:

Maybe? I can not confirm that. All I know is that it manages my usb
devices and it works for my 4 USB2 HDs.  At least it's easy to remove
if it doesn't work ;)
I can say that they use SCSI emulation, so maybe some scsi modules are missing.
I have sd_mod (scsi disk) and scsi_mod (base scsi support) loaded

Hmm.  Still not working.  I've never used the USB ports on this
motherboard before so I'm suspecting that I have a hardware problem.
Oh well.  Thanks for your help.  Looks like I might be upgrading
soon.  :-)

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Re: How to access external USB hard drive?

2004-12-24 Thread Eric Gaumer
On Fri, 2004-12-24 at 19:12 -0800, Matt Perry wrote:
 On Fri, 24 Dec 2004, Darryl Clarke wrote:
 
  Maybe? I can not confirm that. All I know is that it manages my usb
  devices and it works for my 4 USB2 HDs.  At least it's easy to remove
  if it doesn't work ;)
  
  I can say that they use SCSI emulation, so maybe some scsi modules are 
  missing.
  I have sd_mod (scsi disk) and scsi_mod (base scsi support) loaded
 
 Hmm.  Still not working.  I've never used the USB ports on this
 motherboard before so I'm suspecting that I have a hardware problem.
 Oh well.  Thanks for your help.  Looks like I might be upgrading
 soon.  :-)
 

]$ cat /proc/bus/usb/devices 

should show what's on the usb bus and what drivers are attached to each
device. Post that info and it may help turn up a solution.

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Re: How to access external USB hard drive?

2004-12-24 Thread H. S.
Apparently, _Matt Perry_, on 24/12/04 22:12,typed:
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004, Darryl Clarke wrote:

Maybe? I can not confirm that. All I know is that it manages my usb
devices and it works for my 4 USB2 HDs.  At least it's easy to remove
if it doesn't work ;)
I can say that they use SCSI emulation, so maybe some scsi modules are missing.
I have sd_mod (scsi disk) and scsi_mod (base scsi support) loaded

Hmm.  Still not working.  I've never used the USB ports on this
motherboard before so I'm suspecting that I have a hardware problem.
Oh well.  Thanks for your help.  Looks like I might be upgrading
soon.  :-)

What does /var/log/syslog report when you plug in the USB hard disk 
(right after when you plug in the USB disk). If there is nothing, then 
you may need to load prpoper USB modules.

If I were you, I would prefer writing a udev rule (I can help with that 
if you wish) and make a mount point something like /media/usb-hd so that 
whenever I plug in the hd it gets automatically mounted at /media/usb-hd.

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Re: How to access external USB hard drive?

2004-12-24 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2004-12-24 at 19:12 -0800, Matt Perry wrote:
 On Fri, 24 Dec 2004, Darryl Clarke wrote:
 
  Maybe? I can not confirm that. All I know is that it manages my usb
  devices and it works for my 4 USB2 HDs.  At least it's easy to remove
  if it doesn't work ;)
  
  I can say that they use SCSI emulation, so maybe some scsi modules are 
  missing.
  I have sd_mod (scsi disk) and scsi_mod (base scsi support) loaded
 
 Hmm.  Still not working.  I've never used the USB ports on this
 motherboard before so I'm suspecting that I have a hardware problem.
 Oh well.  Thanks for your help.  Looks like I might be upgrading
 soon.  :-)

Maybe ehci_hcd isn't loaded?  What chipset are you using?

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Re: How to access external USB hard drive?

2004-12-24 Thread Matt Perry
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004, Eric Gaumer wrote:   
   
 ]$ cat /proc/bus/usb/devices

 should show what's on the usb bus and what drivers are attached to each   
 device. Post that info and it may help turn up a solution.   

/proc/bus/usb is an empty directory.


On Fri, 24 Dec 2004, H. S. wrote:   
   
 What does /var/log/syslog report when you plug in the USB hard disk
 (right after when you plug in the USB disk).

It doesn't report anything new.

 If there is nothing, then you may need to load prpoper USB modules. 

Any suggestions on what to load?  I have usbcore, usbkbd, usb-storage,
scsi_mod, and sd_mod loaded.  I've included output from lsmod at the
end of this message.

 If I were you, I would prefer writing a udev rule (I can help with that  
 if you wish) and make a mount point something like /media/usb-hd so that  
 whenever I plug in the hd it gets automatically mounted at /media/usb-hd. 

What is udev?  A link to docs would be fine.  I'd welcome any help
getting this working.  :-)


On Fri, 24 Dec 2004, Ron Johnson wrote:

 Maybe ehci_hcd isn't loaded?

It wasn't loaded.  I added it but nothing has changed.

 What chipset are you using?

Intel 815EP chipset, I believe.  I have an ASUS CUSL2-C motherboard
but I'm having problems finding the specs on the Asus web site.  How
can I find this info in /proc?  In 2.4 there was /proc/pci but that is
missing in 2.6.  I found /proc/bus/pci but it has different information.

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Re: How to access external USB hard drive?

2004-12-24 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2004-12-24 at 22:07 -0800, Matt Perry wrote:
 On Fri, 24 Dec 2004, Eric Gaumer wrote:   

  ]$ cat /proc/bus/usb/devices
 
  should show what's on the usb bus and what drivers are attached to each 

  device. Post that info and it may help turn up a solution.   
 
 /proc/bus/usb is an empty directory.

Is usbfs in your /etc/fstab?

$ cat /etc/mtab | grep usbfs
usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs rw 0 0

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Re: How to access external USB hard drive?

2004-12-24 Thread Matt Perry
On Sat, 25 Dec 2004, Ron Johnson wrote:

  /proc/bus/usb is an empty directory.
 
 Is usbfs in your /etc/fstab?
 
 $ cat /etc/mtab | grep usbfs
 usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs rw 0 0

It's not in /etc/fstab but it is mouted:

$ mount
/dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
proc on /proc type proc (rw)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
/dev/md0 on /mnt/array type ext3 (rw)
usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)

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Re: How to access external USB hard drive?

2004-12-24 Thread Matt Perry
On Sat, 25 Dec 2004, Ron Johnson wrote:

 Is usbfs in your /etc/fstab?
 
 $ cat /etc/mtab | grep usbfs
 usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs rw 0 0

I just found an old firewire card that I had laying around and tried
that.  The enclosure has firewire so I figured it'd be worth a shot.
It worked find with the ohci1394 and sbp2 drivers.  I think I'll just
stick with this.  USB seems to have some problems on this motherboard.

Thank you everyone for your help.

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