Re: How to install Debian with Promise FastTrak 376 chip onboard?

2004-02-16 Thread Antony Gelberg
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 06:43:16PM -0800, Nano Nano wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 01:07:54AM +, Antony Gelberg wrote:
> > All correct, what a plum I am.  Except for this.  I asked not to be CC'd.
> > You CC'd me.  The fact that your MUA uses Mail-Followup-To: does not remove
> > your obligation to check that the To: field of an email that you send
> > is correct.  A lot of people on the list don't use Mutt, and manage to
> > get the reply correct even without the benefit of Mail-Followup-To:.
> > I don't think list policy mentions correct setting of follow ups,
> > desirable though that may be.
> > 
> > FWIW, I have been aware of this for some weeks and do plan to correct it
> > when I get a moment.
> 
> Your lack of preparation is not my cause for concern.

What lack of preparation?  If you want to talk about a cause for
concern, how about your inability to check the contents of your To: and
Cc: fields?

> The simple fact is if your MUA wasn't using established standards 
> (insofar as Mutt follows established standards) to indicate that you do
> indeed desire a CC on your reponse, you wouldn't be getting them.

Mail-Followup-To: isn't a standard - as far as I am aware.  It's a hack
employed by several MUAs.

> I'm doing my part by hitting list-reply.  

You're not doing your part by not checking the destinations of outbound
email.

> I'm have all SIGs blocked, 
> because I don't care to read anybody else's philosopy or contact info: 
> don't put info in there that must be read.

My signature doesn't contain my philosophy or contact info.  It does
contain a reminder about one aspect of list policy and several useful
links.  If you hold on for a second, I'll just change my signature to
suit people who don't care to read it.  :-P

> You really are the limit.

Thanks again.  I'm not going to respond to any more posts in this
thread.  It's so dull.

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Re: How to install Debian with Promise FastTrak 376 chip onboard?

2004-02-15 Thread Nano Nano
On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 01:07:54AM +, Antony Gelberg wrote:
> All correct, what a plum I am.  Except for this.  I asked not to be CC'd.
> You CC'd me.  The fact that your MUA uses Mail-Followup-To: does not remove
> your obligation to check that the To: field of an email that you send
> is correct.  A lot of people on the list don't use Mutt, and manage to
> get the reply correct even without the benefit of Mail-Followup-To:.
> I don't think list policy mentions correct setting of follow ups,
> desirable though that may be.
> 
> FWIW, I have been aware of this for some weeks and do plan to correct it
> when I get a moment.

Your lack of preparation is not my cause for concern.

The simple fact is if your MUA wasn't using established standards 
(insofar as Mutt follows established standards) to indicate that you do
indeed desire a CC on your reponse, you wouldn't be getting them.

I'm doing my part by hitting list-reply.  I'm have all SIGs blocked, 
because I don't care to read anybody else's philosopy or contact info: 
don't put info in there that must be read.

You really are the limit.


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Re: How to install Debian with Promise FastTrak 376 chip onboard?

2004-02-15 Thread Antony Gelberg
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 11:35:12AM -0800, Nano Nano wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 06:42:56PM +, Antony Gelberg wrote:
> > Please don't CC me.  It's in my sig and it's list policy.
> 
> It's your fault.  Your mail includes the header:
> 
> Mail-Followup-To: Antony Gelberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> which makes Mutt's list-reply function add you to the CC.  The header 
> should like this:
> 
> Mail-Followup-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Considering what a rude, rude response you posted, I'm certainly glad to 
> point you it's on you babe.

All correct, what a plum I am.  Except for this.  I asked not to be CC'd.
You CC'd me.  The fact that your MUA uses Mail-Followup-To: does not remove
your obligation to check that the To: field of an email that you send
is correct.  A lot of people on the list don't use Mutt, and manage to
get the reply correct even without the benefit of Mail-Followup-To:.
I don't think list policy mentions correct setting of follow ups,
desirable though that may be.

FWIW, I have been aware of this for some weeks and do plan to correct it
when I get a moment.

I'm not even nearly the rudest person on this list.  You'd better
get a thicker skin if you're going to cry about this.  I'm really pleased
I tried to help you out by mentioning the chroot install possibility.
Furthermore, I'm not a babe.

> Funny, I just hit "e" in Mutt, which I see you're using, and it unwraps 
> itself just find.  I found your reply unsatisfactory and have no wish 
> for a further reply from you.

Well in that case you'd better have plonked me or unsubbed (I didn't CC
you, in accordance with list policy).

> Have a nice life.

Thanks.

A

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Re: How to install Debian with Promise FastTrak 376 chip onboard?

2004-02-15 Thread Nano Nano
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 06:42:56PM +, Antony Gelberg wrote:
> Please don't CC me.  It's in my sig and it's list policy.

It's your fault.  Your mail includes the header:

Mail-Followup-To: Antony Gelberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

which makes Mutt's list-reply function add you to the CC.  The header 
should like this:

Mail-Followup-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Considering what a rude, rude response you posted, I'm certainly glad to 
point you it's on you babe.

> > http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=JIxNb.34286%24ZuL1.19485%40twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dp4c800%2Bbank%2B0%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26selm%3DJIxNb.34286%2524ZuL1.19485%2540twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com%26rnum%3D1

Funny, I just hit "e" in Mutt, which I see you're using, and it unwraps 
itself just find.  I found your reply unsatisfactory and have no wish 
for a further reply from you.

Have a nice life.


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Re: How to install Debian with Promise FastTrak 376 chip onboard?

2004-02-15 Thread Antony Gelberg
On Sat, Feb 14, 2004 at 05:17:39PM +0100, Danny wrote:
> Hi Antony,
> 
> you are the man, which saved me! Install with the help of your webpage was
> easy and fast and the installer detected my harddisk (no raid). But now
> after reboot, I can't boot. Grub crashes and showed only the Grub prompt at
> the bottom of the screen.
> 
> How can I boot with your driver?

I don't use grub, so can't be of much help.  I don't know why you have
grub on a fresh system, as the default Woody bootloader is lilo.  You
will need to boot from an initrd, which the Woody installer should set
up for you, based on the fact that you provided the ft3xx.o module
at install-time.

A

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Re: How to install Debian with Promise FastTrak 376 chip onboard?

2004-02-15 Thread Antony Gelberg
Please don't CC me.  It's in my sig and it's list policy.

On Fri, Feb 13, 2004 at 09:21:40PM -0800, Nano Nano wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 14, 2004 at 02:24:28AM +, Antony Gelberg wrote:
> > I came in a bit late here.  Have a look on my site -
> > http://www.antgel.co.uk/compsci/linux/promise_raid.shtml.  This has the
> > Promise driver module built against 2.4.18-bf24.
> 
> I have a 376 on my motherboard, but its disabled [1].
> Currently I have a Promise Ultra TX 133 in there.
> There were problems in 2.4.18's Promise drivers fixed in 2.4.20,
> which is why you have to do the long convoluted process referenced in:
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/debian-user-200401/msg05141.html

I was under the impression you wanted a 376 driver.

> Any chance of a backported Ultra TX 133 driver that could just be put on 
> a floppy like this?

No.  What I would do in your situation is plug in an IDE drive, install
Debian on that, compile the latest kernel, mount the SATA drive / array,
and do a chroot install.  I've messed around trying to create a Debian
install ISO with a late kernel with SATA drivers, but it's proven easier
to keep an old IDE drive at the ready with the above-mentioned install.

> [1] I have an Asus P4C800-E with an onboard SATA/RAID controller.
> If I don't disable it I get memory errors with Microsoft's Memory 
> Diagnostic tool (http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp), and lockups 
> when playing Freedom Fighter.  memtest86 reports no errors!
> 
> The errors are in Bank 0, even when you switch the chips, or if you put 
> the chips in Bank 1 and 3 the errors are always in Bank 1.
> 
> I found this:
> http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=JIxNb.34286%24ZuL1.19485%40twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dp4c800%2Bbank%2B0%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26selm%3DJIxNb.34286%2524ZuL1.19485%2540twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com%26rnum%3D1
> which says I should disable it.

I couldn't read the link as it wasn't quoted, so who knows.

A

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Re: How to install Debian with Promise FastTrak 376 chip onboard?

2004-02-14 Thread Danny
Hi Antony,

you are the man, which saved me! Install with the help of your webpage was
easy and fast and the installer detected my harddisk (no raid). But now
after reboot, I can't boot. Grub crashes and showed only the Grub prompt at
the bottom of the screen.

How can I boot with your driver?

Thanx in advance,

Danny

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> On Fri, Feb 13, 2004 at 12:04:03AM -0800, Nano Nano wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 13, 2004 at 08:38:03AM +0100, Danny wrote:
> > > Hi Nano Nano,
> > >
> > > to supply a floppy during setup is no problem. There in the Debian 3
> > > installer is an option "Preload modules from disk". And that is all I
ask
> > > for, the modules (binary device drivers for Promise FastTrak 376), so
that I
> > > can put it on disk, that the Installer detects my Promise FastTrak 376
> > > controller.
> > >
> >
> > all I ask is that if you figure it out you tell me too
>
> I came in a bit late here.  Have a look on my site -
> http://www.antgel.co.uk/compsci/linux/promise_raid.shtml.  This has the
> Promise driver module built against 2.4.18-bf24.
>
> A
>
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Re: How to install Debian with Promise FastTrak 376 chip onboard?

2004-02-13 Thread Nano Nano
On Sat, Feb 14, 2004 at 02:24:28AM +, Antony Gelberg wrote:
> I came in a bit late here.  Have a look on my site -
> http://www.antgel.co.uk/compsci/linux/promise_raid.shtml.  This has the
> Promise driver module built against 2.4.18-bf24.

I have a 376 on my motherboard, but its disabled [1].
Currently I have a Promise Ultra TX 133 in there.
There were problems in 2.4.18's Promise drivers fixed in 2.4.20,
which is why you have to do the long convoluted process referenced in:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/debian-user-200401/msg05141.html

Any chance of a backported Ultra TX 133 driver that could just be put on 
a floppy like this?

-

[1] I have an Asus P4C800-E with an onboard SATA/RAID controller.
If I don't disable it I get memory errors with Microsoft's Memory 
Diagnostic tool (http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp), and lockups 
when playing Freedom Fighter.  memtest86 reports no errors!

The errors are in Bank 0, even when you switch the chips, or if you put 
the chips in Bank 1 and 3 the errors are always in Bank 1.

I found this:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=JIxNb.34286%24ZuL1.19485%40twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dp4c800%2Bbank%2B0%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26selm%3DJIxNb.34286%2524ZuL1.19485%2540twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com%26rnum%3D1
which says I should disable it.


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Re: How to install Debian with Promise FastTrak 376 chip onboard?

2004-02-13 Thread Antony Gelberg
On Fri, Feb 13, 2004 at 12:04:03AM -0800, Nano Nano wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2004 at 08:38:03AM +0100, Danny wrote:
> > Hi Nano Nano,
> > 
> > to supply a floppy during setup is no problem. There in the Debian 3
> > installer is an option "Preload modules from disk". And that is all I ask
> > for, the modules (binary device drivers for Promise FastTrak 376), so that I
> > can put it on disk, that the Installer detects my Promise FastTrak 376
> > controller.
> > 
> 
> all I ask is that if you figure it out you tell me too

I came in a bit late here.  Have a look on my site -
http://www.antgel.co.uk/compsci/linux/promise_raid.shtml.  This has the
Promise driver module built against 2.4.18-bf24.

A

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Re: How to install Debian with Promise FastTrak 376 chip onboard?

2004-02-13 Thread Danny
Hi Nano Nano,

until yet I had no success, I downloaded the binary drivers from the Promise
site, (for Suse and RedHat) tried it, but it won't load. Also I used
precompiled drivers from the site
http://www.fys.ku.dk/~esban/promise376.html, but also with no success.

I have written to Promise and pleased for binary drivers for Debian, but got
no answer.

Someone out there, who has precompiled drivers for Promise FastTrak 376?

Danny

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> On Fri, Feb 13, 2004 at 08:38:03AM +0100, Danny wrote:
> > Hi Nano Nano,
> >
> > to supply a floppy during setup is no problem. There in the Debian 3
> > installer is an option "Preload modules from disk". And that is all I
ask
> > for, the modules (binary device drivers for Promise FastTrak 376), so
that I
> > can put it on disk, that the Installer detects my Promise FastTrak 376
> > controller.
> >
>
> all I ask is that if you figure it out you tell me too
>
>
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Re: How to install Debian with Promise FastTrak 376 chip onboard?

2004-02-13 Thread Nano Nano
On Fri, Feb 13, 2004 at 08:38:03AM +0100, Danny wrote:
> Hi Nano Nano,
> 
> to supply a floppy during setup is no problem. There in the Debian 3
> installer is an option "Preload modules from disk". And that is all I ask
> for, the modules (binary device drivers for Promise FastTrak 376), so that I
> can put it on disk, that the Installer detects my Promise FastTrak 376
> controller.
> 

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Re: How to install Debian with Promise FastTrak 376 chip onboard?

2004-02-12 Thread Danny
Hi Nano Nano,

to supply a floppy during setup is no problem. There in the Debian 3
installer is an option "Preload modules from disk". And that is all I ask
for, the modules (binary device drivers for Promise FastTrak 376), so that I
can put it on disk, that the Installer detects my Promise FastTrak 376
controller.

Danny

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> On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 10:26:52PM +0100, Danny wrote:
> > Hi Nano Nano,
> >
> > thank you for your posting, but I'm an absolute Linux beginner. I have
> > installed only Windows, so I can't compile a new kernel, as I have no
Linux
> > avaiable.
> >
> > All I need is for the installation some binary driver that the Debian 3
R2
> > installer detects my FastTrak 376.
> >
>
> well, if you figure out how to just supply a floppy during setup, post
> it here and let me know.  There is an option to add a floppy driver
> disk, in theory you could do it.  I never could figure that out, until I
> read the instructions I gave you there.
>
> I'm not sure if 2.4.18 supported promise but it just wasn't selected in
> the .config.  anybody know?
>
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Re: How to install Debian with Promise FastTrak 376 chip onboard?

2004-02-12 Thread Nano Nano
On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 10:26:52PM +0100, Danny wrote:
> Hi Nano Nano,
> 
> thank you for your posting, but I'm an absolute Linux beginner. I have
> installed only Windows, so I can't compile a new kernel, as I have no Linux
> avaiable.
> 
> All I need is for the installation some binary driver that the Debian 3 R2
> installer detects my FastTrak 376.
> 

well, if you figure out how to just supply a floppy during setup, post 
it here and let me know.  There is an option to add a floppy driver 
disk, in theory you could do it.  I never could figure that out, until I 
read the instructions I gave you there.

I'm not sure if 2.4.18 supported promise but it just wasn't selected in 
the .config.  anybody know?


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Re: How to install Debian with Promise FastTrak 376 chip onboard?

2004-02-12 Thread Danny
Hi Nano Nano,

thank you for your posting, but I'm an absolute Linux beginner. I have
installed only Windows, so I can't compile a new kernel, as I have no Linux
avaiable.

All I need is for the installation some binary driver that the Debian 3 R2
installer detects my FastTrak 376.

Thanx,

Danny


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> On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 03:21:25PM +0100, Danny wrote:
> > I have difficulties to install Debian 3 on my MSI K7N2G motherboard with
> > Promise FastTrak 376 chip onboard. Standard Install and also 2.4 Kernel
> > (BF24) doesn't recognize the harddisk controller.
> >
> > Unfortunately Promise supports only Suse and RedHat.
> >
> > Any hints / tips tricks are greatly appreciated.
>
> I was stumped by this for the longest time but it's cake.
> http://ttul.org/~rrsadler/linux-promise/
> Search lists.d.o for promise
>
> I put my 2.4.24 .config file that will fit on a boot floppy here:
> http://home.comcast.net/~40208.nospam/config.bf24-24.gz
>
> Here are some random tidbits, follow the web page:
>
> - download bf24 root and rescue floppy
> - create 2.4.24 kernel with .config above: make dep bzImage
> - mount rescue floppy, replace linux.bin with arch/i386/bzImage
>   (rename to linux.bin)
> - boot from rescue floppy, continue with root floppy
> [you'll have to select the steps manually during setup]
> - execute shell, mkdir /cdrom, mount cdrom on /cdrom
> - configure hostname and network: i had to use static ip for some reason
> - install kernel from mounted, /cdrom
> - install base system from mounted, /cdrom
> - kernel 2.2.20 will be installed, so system won't start on reboot, so
> - following the install reboot, boot off rescue floppy, and boot
>   "rescue /dev/[rootpart]"
> - mount rescue floppy
> - copy /floppy/linux.bin /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.24-rescue
> - rm /vmlinuz, ln -s /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.24-rescue /vmlinuz
> - run lilo -- now you can boot off the HD
> - install a "real" kernel, now you can boot off Linux and LinuxOld
>
> enjoy !
>
> the process is a lot like having to hit F6 during Windows Setup with
> the promise disk, except Linux is Nicer!
>
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Re: How to install Debian with Promise FastTrak 376 chip onboard?

2004-02-12 Thread Nano Nano
On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 03:21:25PM +0100, Danny wrote:
> I have difficulties to install Debian 3 on my MSI K7N2G motherboard with
> Promise FastTrak 376 chip onboard. Standard Install and also 2.4 Kernel
> (BF24) doesn't recognize the harddisk controller.
> 
> Unfortunately Promise supports only Suse and RedHat.
> 
> Any hints / tips tricks are greatly appreciated.

I was stumped by this for the longest time but it's cake.
http://ttul.org/~rrsadler/linux-promise/
Search lists.d.o for promise

I put my 2.4.24 .config file that will fit on a boot floppy here:
http://home.comcast.net/~40208.nospam/config.bf24-24.gz

Here are some random tidbits, follow the web page:

- download bf24 root and rescue floppy
- create 2.4.24 kernel with .config above: make dep bzImage
- mount rescue floppy, replace linux.bin with arch/i386/bzImage
  (rename to linux.bin)
- boot from rescue floppy, continue with root floppy
[you'll have to select the steps manually during setup]
- execute shell, mkdir /cdrom, mount cdrom on /cdrom
- configure hostname and network: i had to use static ip for some reason
- install kernel from mounted, /cdrom
- install base system from mounted, /cdrom
- kernel 2.2.20 will be installed, so system won't start on reboot, so
- following the install reboot, boot off rescue floppy, and boot
  "rescue /dev/[rootpart]"
- mount rescue floppy
- copy /floppy/linux.bin /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.24-rescue
- rm /vmlinuz, ln -s /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.24-rescue /vmlinuz
- run lilo -- now you can boot off the HD
- install a "real" kernel, now you can boot off Linux and LinuxOld

enjoy !

the process is a lot like having to hit F6 during Windows Setup with 
the promise disk, except Linux is Nicer!


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Re: How to install Debian with Promise FastTrak 376 chip onboard?

2004-02-12 Thread Danny
I'm sorry. I couldn't follow the instructions. I'm a linux beginner. Where
can I get the Debian drivers for my Promise 376 controller?

Thanx,

Danny

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Re: How to install Debian with Promise FastTrak 376 chip onboard?

2004-02-12 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2004-02-12 at 09:21, Danny wrote:
> I have difficulties to install Debian 3 on my MSI K7N2G motherboard with
> Promise FastTrak 376 chip onboard. Standard Install and also 2.4 Kernel
> (BF24) doesn't recognize the harddisk controller.
> 
> Unfortunately Promise supports only Suse and RedHat.
> 
> Any hints / tips tricks are greatly appreciated.

http://www.google.com/search?q=Debian+Chroot+Install+twiki.iwethey.org

Hope this helps.
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How to install Debian with Promise FastTrak 376 chip onboard?

2004-02-12 Thread Danny
I have difficulties to install Debian 3 on my MSI K7N2G motherboard with
Promise FastTrak 376 chip onboard. Standard Install and also 2.4 Kernel
(BF24) doesn't recognize the harddisk controller.

Unfortunately Promise supports only Suse and RedHat.

Any hints / tips tricks are greatly appreciated.

Danny



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