Re: OT plain text missing from web mail (was: Installer Can Not Find Root"

[Felix Miata]

Dan Norton composed on 2017-11-22 19:09 (UTC-0500):
...
> 4. This laptop I'm borrowing is notorious for having a hyper-sensitive touch
> pad. You can be typing along in the spot you have chosen for input and 
> suddenly
> it gets a wild hair and relocates the cursor to somewhere else. As a hunt and
> peck typist, I've been victimized many times by this and had to undo and start
> over. The new insertion point is unpredictable AFAICT.

> 5. Anything in the clipboard can be pasted, preferences for no HTML not
> withstanding. If there is an html fragment in the clipboard

> 6. This list proscribes top posting and often I place replies within or at the
> end, then hit send (webmail has a button at the bottom as well as the top)
> without looking at the beginning text. The html-like garbage is at the 
> beginning.

> Currently, my theory is that somehow(tm) due to 4, *IT JUST DID IT. I AM NOT
> KIDDING*
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This one is/was 10.5KB, 100% HTML:

MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0
Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
...
body{font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,sans-ser=
if;background-color:#ff;color:black;}p{margin:0px;}-Origina=
l Message-...
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Re: OT plain text missing from web mail (was: Installer Can Not Find Root"

[Dan Norton]

-Original Message->From: mrma...@earthlink.net>Sent: Nov 21, 2017 3:37 PM>To: debian-user@lists.debian.org>Subject: Re: OT plain text missing from web mail (was: Installer Can Not Find Root">>Tom Furie composed:>>> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 05:47:55PM -0500, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:>>>> That's weird. I don't see that on my end. The original email looks as>>> normally expected from Debian lists. :)>>> That's weird. The original mail, and all of Dan's mails to the list, have>> only a single html part. An incredibly badly constructed html part at>> that.>>As this will be, it was sent using>>		X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0>>with>>		Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8>>The string "Content-Type: multipart" is absent from his message. The only place on Earthlink's web mail site I can find that addresses HTML vs. plain text is in the "Message Display" section of "Preferences", where the label is>>		HTML Message View>>with description>>		" Choose 'off' to view HTML messages as text. ">>which I have set to "off". That said, the page I'm composing on has a link>>		"Use the new WebMail">>I'm not going to click on it and risk not being able to get back to using plain text. I suppose that may be what Dan's using and he hasn't figured out how to not send in HTML.>First, let me apologize to everyone who received some kind of HTML fragment from me simply because they are subscribed to Debian User. I am very sorry to have posted that junk on Debian User. I'm still studying how it happened. Here's what I know so far:1. The preference is still set to use plain text in emails. 2. Going through the archives, my posts appear devoid of html junk. However,3. Looking at the lone entry in my Sent folder I see that it begins "body{font-size:10pt;font-family:arial" ! Where did that come from? Doing a search of the archives for this turns up the following in the thread:/debian-user/2017/11/msg00672.html/debian-user/2017/11/msg00644.html/debian-user/2017/11/msg00633.htmlNot one of these displays junk when I clicking on them.4. This laptop I'm borrowing is notorious for having a hyper-sensitive touch pad. You can be typing along in the spot you have chosen for input and suddenly it gets a wild hair and relocates the cursor to somewhere else. As a hunt and peck typist, I've been victimized many times by this and had to undo and start over. The new insertion point is unpredictable AFAICT.5. Anything in the clipboard can be pasted, preferences for no HTML not withstanding. If there is an html fragment in the clipboard6. This list proscribes top posting and often I place replies within or at the end, then hit send (webmail has a button at the bottom as well as the top) without looking at the beginning text. The html-like garbage is at the beginning.Currently, my theory is that somehow(tm) due to 4, *IT JUST DID IT. I AM NOT KIDDING*"body{font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:#ff;color:black;}p{margin:0px;}"was inserted at the beginning of this text when I pressed the space bar. I cut it out and pasted it above. The mouse was unresponsive to clicks and I had to use the arrow keys to position the pastedue to 4, 5, and 6 the garbage is being copied to the clipboard and pasted to the bogus insertion point. How this occurs, I don't know.>I can't imagine Dan continuing to choose to use Earthlink web mail once the problems this thread is about have been solved. It's a poor UI, like Yahoo and all other web mail I've ever had to fall back on."Desperate men do desperate deeds." :-) - Dan

Re: Installer Can Not Find Root

[Dan Norton]

-Original Message-
>From: Tom Furie <t...@furie.org.uk>
>Sent: Nov 22, 2017 5:48 AM
>To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: Installer Can Not Find Root
>
>On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 09:28:55PM -0500, Dan Norton wrote:
>
>> > ...and all of Dan's mails to the list...
>
>> All? How far back?
>
>That was my error, somehow my fingers typed "list" when my brain was
>thinking "thread".
>

THAT's a relief :-) I will search for the culprits when I get a little more 
time.
Thanks for letting me know.

>Cheers,
>Tom
>
>-- 
>BOFH excuse #185:
>
>system consumed all the paper for paging

Re: Installer Can Not Find Root

[Tom Furie]

On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 09:28:55PM -0500, Dan Norton wrote:

> > ...and all of Dan's mails to the list...

> All? How far back?

That was my error, somehow my fingers typed "list" when my brain was
thinking "thread".

Cheers,
Tom

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Re: Installer Can Not Find Root

[Gene Heskett]

On Tuesday 21 November 2017 21:28:55 Dan Norton wrote:

> -Original Message-
>
> >From: Tom Furie <t...@furie.org.uk>
> >Sent: Nov 21, 2017 3:25 AM
> >To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> >Subject: Re: Installer Can Not Find Root
> >
> >On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 05:47:55PM -0500, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:
> >> That's weird. I don't see that on my end. The original email looks
> >> as normally expected from Debian lists. :)
> >
> >That's weird. The original mail, and all of Dan's mails to the list,
> > have only a single html part. An incredibly badly constructed html
> > part at that.
>
> All? How far back?
>
Since your first post I believe.

> >Cheers,
> >Tom
>
> I *thought* it was fixed. If this one exhibits some kind of html, let
> me know. This should not occur, even on my wife's lappy, which I'm
> borrowing until I get debian re-installed on my desktop. This being
> written using Earthlink Webmail on 'Doze 10.
>
>  - Dan

This one is fine. No html. Earthlink is one of the better webmail setups.

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Re: Installer Can Not Find Root

[Felix Miata]

Dan Norton composed on 2017-11-21 21:28 (UTC-0500):

>>That's weird. The original mail, and all of Dan's mails to the list, have
>>only a single html part. An incredibly badly constructed html part at
>>that.

> All? How far back?

Just this thread (all written with Earthlink web mail), until this, all since
2017-11-18 21:26 -0500.

> I *thought* it was fixed. If this one exhibits some kind of html, let me 
> know. This should not occur, even on my wife's lappy, which I'm borrowing 
> until I get debian re-installed on my desktop. This being written using 
> Earthlink Webmail on 'Doze 10. 

The HTML is gone, but there's no line wrapping done by Zoo Mail 1.0 as
implemented by Earthlink.
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Re: Installer Can Not Find Root

[Dan Norton]

-Original Message-
>From: Tom Furie <t...@furie.org.uk>
>Sent: Nov 21, 2017 3:25 AM
>To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: Installer Can Not Find Root
>
>On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 05:47:55PM -0500, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:
>
>> That's weird. I don't see that on my end. The original email looks as
>> normally expected from Debian lists. :)
>
>That's weird. The original mail, and all of Dan's mails to the list, have
>only a single html part. An incredibly badly constructed html part at
>that.
>

All? How far back?

>Cheers,
>Tom
>

I *thought* it was fixed. If this one exhibits some kind of html, let me know. 
This should not occur, even on my wife's lappy, which I'm borrowing until I get 
debian re-installed on my desktop. This being written using Earthlink Webmail 
on 'Doze 10.

 - Dan

Re: OT plain text missing from web mail (was: Installer Can Not Find Root"

[Felix Miata]

Tom Furie composed on 2017-11-22 01:05 (UTC):

> On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 03:37:03PM -0500, mrma...@earthlink.net wrote:

>> As this will be, it was sent using

>>  X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0

>> with

>>  Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8

> You came through fine as text/plain.

After rereading after sending I figured someone would think "will be" would be
meant to apply to both, but I did not, and as you found, only Zoo Mail, not
HTML, was used. I first checked an email I sent via Zoo Mail to another list a
week ago after finding I had locally purged the message I wished to reply to. 
:-)
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Re: OT plain text missing from web mail (was: Installer Can Not Find Root"

[Tom Furie]

On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 03:37:03PM -0500, mrma...@earthlink.net wrote:

> As this will be, it was sent using
> 
>   X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0
> 
> with
> 
>   Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8

You came through fine as text/plain. Shame about breaking the threading
though :p

Cheers,
Tom

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Re: OT plain text missing from web mail (was: Installer Can Not Find Root"

[mrmazda]

Tom Furie composed:

> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 05:47:55PM -0500, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:

>> That's weird. I don't see that on my end. The original email looks as
>> normally expected from Debian lists. :)

> That's weird. The original mail, and all of Dan's mails to the list, have
> only a single html part. An incredibly badly constructed html part at
> that.

As this will be, it was sent using

X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0

with

Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8

The string "Content-Type: multipart" is absent from his message. The only place 
on Earthlink's web mail site I can find that addresses HTML vs. plain text is 
in the "Message Display" section of "Preferences", where the label is

HTML Message View

with description

" Choose 'off' to view HTML messages as text. "

which I have set to "off". That said, the page I'm composing on has a link

"Use the new WebMail"

I'm not going to click on it and risk not being able to get back to using plain 
text. I suppose that may be what Dan's using and he hasn't figured out how to 
not send in HTML.

I can't imagine Dan continuing to choose to use Earthlink web mail once the 
problems this thread is about have been solved. It's a poor UI, like Yahoo and 
all other web mail I've ever had to fall back on.
-- 
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get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation)

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Re: Installer Can Not Find Root

[Tom Furie]

On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 05:47:55PM -0500, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:

> That's weird. I don't see that on my end. The original email looks as
> normally expected from Debian lists. :)

That's weird. The original mail, and all of Dan's mails to the list, have
only a single html part. An incredibly badly constructed html part at
that.

Cheers,
Tom

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Re: Installer Can Not Find Root

[Dan Norton]

-Original Message->From: Tom Dial <tdd...@comcast.net>>Sent: Nov 19, 2017 6:44 PM>To: "debian-user@lists.debian.org" <debian-user@lists.debian.org>>Subject: Re: Installer Can Not Find Root>>>>On 11/18/2017 07:26 PM, Dan Norton wrote:>> While trying to netinst Debian 8.9 into an LVM physical volume I keep>> running into "installer can not find root" or words to that effect. This>> is a dead end in the installer AFAICT.>> OK I found what I was doing wrong and am now more familiar with the installer UI.>> I have tried GPT but this HP UEFI does not play nicely with it. So,>> reverting to Disklabel type: dos, and using fdisk, I re-partitioned.>> >> fdisk -l reports this snippet (paraphrased):>> >> /dev/sda1  1M 83 Linux>> /dev/sda2  8G 82 Linux swap>> /dev/sda4  923.5G  5 Extended>> /dev/sda5 64G 8e Linux LVM>> /dev/sda6     64G 8e Linux LVM>> /dev/sda7     64G 8e Linux LVM>> /dev/sda8     64G 8e Linux LVM>> /dev/sda9  667.5G 83 Linux>> >> The aim here is to have a multiboot system with Debian 8, Debian 9, and>> so forth.>> I've reverted the partitioning scheme back to GPT. Using fdisk I defined the primary partitions sda1 and 2 as EFI and Swap respectively. The remaining partitioning was done within the installer. Thanks Pascal.[snip]>>Installing to a PV is a fairly straightforward matter. Here is a worked>out example of installing to a microSD. It should work pretty much the>same for any other type of block device.>>Manual partitioning (done on an existing Stretch installation with>gparted) shows the following from fdisk -l:>>Device Boot Start   End   Sectors  Size Id Type>/dev/mmcblk0p1   2048  4095  20481M 83 Linux>/dev/mmcblk0p2   4096   4198399   41943042G 82 Linux swap />Solaris>/dev/mmcblk0p34198400 124735487 120537088 57.5G  5 Extended>/dev/mmcblk0p54200448  54532095  50331648   24G 8e Linux LVM>/dev/mmcblk0p6   54534144 121643007  67108864   32G 8e Linux LVM>/dev/mmcblk0p7  121645056 124735487   3090432  1.5G 83 Linux>>Partitions p5 and p6 are lvm physical volumes.>>I also, in emulation, created volume group "debian9-vg" on p5 and a>logical volume "root" on debian9-vg and formatted it as ext4. It mounts>normally on the host and (from a shell prompt) with the installer. I did>not leave it mounted.>>The view from the installer partitioner shows essentially the same>thing. From an installer root prompt, lvm commands appear to work>normally, and I created additional LVs swap_1 (2G), tmp (512M), var>(2G), and home (4G), leaving 7.5G free.>>>From the installer (partitioner):>>All disk partitions, and all LVM logical volumes are shown.>>Choosing "Configure the Logical Volume Manager leads to the choice to>format p2 as swap; I did that, and got a frame showing the two PVs (one>used and 1 free), 1 VG, and the 5 LVs and options to "Display>configuration details," "Create volume group," "Create logical volume,">"Delete logical volume," "Extend volume group," and "Finish.">>Display showed the unallocated PV and the debian9-vg with its 5 LVs.>Creating a VG (debian9t) and LVs on partition p6 with the installer>partitioner also works. However, the LVs are created with sizes powers>of 10 instead of 2 (e. g., 1M=1000K=100 bytes instead of>1M=1048K=1048576 bytes). I prefer the powers of two, so from a shell>prompt I removed and recreated the LVs on debian9t to match those on the>debian9-vg created earlier.>>Note that the partitioning can be done from either another (reasonably>up to date) debian system, including a live CD, I expect, or the>installer, and using either the partitioner or lvm commands from an>installer shell prompt. The partitioner then showed and allowed>configuration of all volume groups and logical volumes. It is necessary>to be careful to not use any partitions, volume groups, or logical>volumes that contain data you want to keep, although the partitioner>will warn about using existing resources.>>>From this point, I used the installer partitioner to configure, format,>and specify mount points for LVs associated with the debian9-vg volume>group. The installer correctly identified the root LV, already formatted>as ext4, and offered the option of not reformatting it.>>The installation went forward normally, and at stage 1 completion I>chose a relatively local mirror. I did not see the deb.debian.org>redirector listed, which might be a nice thing.>>Tom Dial>Finishing with the installer, the GPT scheme looks like this:NAME   

Re: Installer Can Not Find Root

[Cindy-Sue Causey]

On 11/20/17, Greg Wooledge  wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 08:43:30AM -0500, Dan Norton wrote:
>>