Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-06 Thread tomas
On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 09:27:06PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote:
> On 06/12/2023 12:04, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 02:42:32AM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote:
> > > 
> > > sudo sync; sudo sh -c 'echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches'
> > > 
> > > Sadly it looks like I'll need to do this daily,
> > 
> > See /etc/sysctl.conf and /etc/sysctl.conf.d if you want to make such things
> > persistent.
> 
> This particular one can not be made persistent. Writing to this file causes
> kernel action.

D'oh, thanks. Sorry for the confusion.

Cheers
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Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-06 Thread Max Nikulin

On 06/12/2023 01:42, jeremy ardley wrote:

I have discovered a magic bullet for solving running out of memory

sudo sync; sudo sh -c 'echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches'

Sadly it looks like I'll need to do this daily, simply for using Debian 
Bookworm with a variety of web browsers


Magic does not work. From my point of view, the scope of such command is 
benchmarking of cold start in some applications. It ensures that all 
files are read from disk, not taken from RAM caches.


The command certainly may change numbers presented by free(1) or top(1). 
Actually if it can increase amount of free memory then applications 
should not starve from insufficient RAM. Kernel should drop some caches 
in response to memory allocation request.


Probable negative consequence is that some files will be read again.

You mentioned that you have no swap on this machine (I remember, 
actually swap exists). Does it mean that you followed some guide trying 
to optimize system performance e.g. to minimize SSD wearing?


I suspect that changing some kernel tunables may degrade cache 
performance. I would try to start from clean state. Unfortunately my 
experience with such optimizing is negligible.




Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-06 Thread Max Nikulin

On 06/12/2023 12:04, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 02:42:32AM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote:


sudo sync; sudo sh -c 'echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches'

Sadly it looks like I'll need to do this daily,


See /etc/sysctl.conf and /etc/sysctl.conf.d if you want to make such things
persistent.


This particular one can not be made persistent. Writing to this file 
causes kernel action.


https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/admin-guide/sysctl/vm.html#drop-caches

However I am in doubt if it may be useful for the issue with browsers.




Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-06 Thread debian-user
Karl Vogel  wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 06:04:36AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 02:42:32AM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote:
> >   
> > > I have discovered a magic bullet for solving running out of memory
> > >   sudo sync; sudo sh -c 'echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches'
> > > Sadly it looks like I'll need to do this daily,  
> > 
> > It's the browsers eating your memory. That's what they do.  
> 
>   I've had problems with Firefox eating my swap on both Linux and
> FreeBSD. My fix has been to run the swap2ram script below hourly.

TBF FF has stopped eating memory & swap since it updated to 115.5.0 ESR



Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-06 Thread Karl Vogel
On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 06:04:36AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 02:42:32AM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote:
> 
> > I have discovered a magic bullet for solving running out of memory
> >   sudo sync; sudo sh -c 'echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches'
> > Sadly it looks like I'll need to do this daily,
> 
> It's the browsers eating your memory. That's what they do.

  I've had problems with Firefox eating my swap on both Linux and FreeBSD.
  My fix has been to run the swap2ram script below hourly.

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# --
#!/bin/ksh
# /dev/null
case "$?" in
0) ;;
*) die "You must be root to $action this." ;;
esac
}

# Make sure we have permission and a safe tempfile.
needroot
systype=$(uname -s | tr A-Z a-z)

tmp=$(mktemp -q "/tmp/$tag.XX")
case "$?" in
0)  test -f "$tmp" || die "$tmp: tempfile not created" ;;
*)  die "$tmp: mktemp failed" ;;
esac

# Real work starts here.  Check for OS-specific instructions.
case "$systype" in
freebsd)
( swapoff -a && swapon -a ) >> $tmp 2>&1
;;

linux)
mem=$(free  | awk '/Mem:/ {print $4}')
swap=$(free | awk '/Swap:/ {print $3}')

if test "$mem" -lt "$swap"; then
logmsg "not enough RAM to recover swap, nothing done"
else
( swapoff -a && swapon -a ) >> $tmp 2>&1
fi
;;
esac

# Cleanup.
test -s "$tmp" && logfile $tmp
rm $tmp
exit 0



Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-05 Thread tomas
On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 02:42:32AM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote:

[...]

> I have discovered a magic bullet for solving running out of memory
> 
> sudo sync; sudo sh -c 'echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches'
> 
> Sadly it looks like I'll need to do this daily,

See /etc/sysctl.conf and /etc/sysctl.conf.d if you want to make such things
persistent.

> simply for using Debian Bookworm with a variety of web browsers

You got that order of things backwards. It's the browsers eating your
memory. That's what they do.

Ad industry always comes up with ways to use up your resources.

Cheers
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Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-05 Thread jeremy ardley



On 4/12/23 10:26, Max Nikulin wrote:

On 03/12/2023 13:33, jeremy ardley wrote:

On 3/12/23 13:59, Phil Wyett wrote:

What type of content is generally being viewed/used in firefox?


A lot of video and otherwise news and search and GPT4

---

I am curious if this creature may provide a summary on user-space OOM 
killers. I have never tried them, but I expect that they may be more 
intelligent than the kernel-space one. I have seen mentions of the 
following ones: earlyoom, nohang, oomd.


Do you have AI browser extensions that may load huge models in respect 
to memory footprint?


When the system starts to become sluggish, have you looked at the 
firefox 'Task Manager' under tools to see if anything stands out?


Previously I have seen the Isolated Web Co processes maxing CPU and 
the CPU fans starting to roar. Nothing unusual in content at the time 
and if I kill all ESR related processes it quiets down and I can 
resume the closed windows and tabs at much reduced CPU


It is just a process that is responsible for some web pages. 
JavaScript loaded for particular sites may leak. Videos may consume 
RAM as well. I would not rely too much on ability of an application to 
recover after killing of its specific processes. From my point of view 
it is better to restart Firefox in such cases.


Perhaps it is possible to find a particular site that causes issues, 
but you need to inspect system namely when it is becoming sluggish.


Firefox has the about:processes and about:performance tools. They may 
be accessed from the about:about list.


Try to sort top(1) output by memory ("M" key), try df(1) to check 
tmpfs usage for the case that enough temporary video files are stored 
there.


I believed that 32G of RAM is still above that "average" users have, 
so it should be enough. Other suggestions surprised me that 0.5G of 
swap may significantly change anything since it is less than 2% of RAM.



I have discovered a magic bullet for solving running out of memory

sudo sync; sudo sh -c 'echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches'

Sadly it looks like I'll need to do this daily, simply for using Debian 
Bookworm with a variety of web browsers





Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-04 Thread jeremy ardley



On 4/12/23 10:49, Max Nikulin wrote:

On 04/12/2023 09:39, jeremy ardley wrote:

I think I've found a potential culprit using about:processes

https://openai.com 110% CPU


I would try it in chromium. Some sites relies on optimizations 
implemented in its JavaScript engine.


My observation is that Firefox may be CPU hungry due to "loading" 
animations (CSS and others). Curiously it may happen namely when JS is 
disabled since otherwise animated placeholders are replaced by 
dynamically loaded content that is still.


I have also been monitoring global memory use. The last entry below 
is after I closed the openai tab


I have not used atop, but a colleague recommended it. This tool may 
write logs.




I installed atop and moved the openai page to Google Chrome.

Free memory reported by atop hovers around 10G and doesn't seem to vary 
much over the past day.


I put a query into gpt4

Can Chrony serve as LAN's master?

Chrome CPU varied between 35% and 65% for the duration of the query of 
about 15 to 20 seconds. This is surprising as I thought openai GPT was 
implemented as an API call with minimal browser involvement.





Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-03 Thread Max Nikulin

On 04/12/2023 09:39, jeremy ardley wrote:

I think I've found a potential culprit using about:processes

https://openai.com 110% CPU


I would try it in chromium. Some sites relies on optimizations 
implemented in its JavaScript engine.


My observation is that Firefox may be CPU hungry due to "loading" 
animations (CSS and others). Curiously it may happen namely when JS is 
disabled since otherwise animated placeholders are replaced by 
dynamically loaded content that is still.


I have also been monitoring global memory use. The last entry below is 
after I closed the openai tab


I have not used atop, but a colleague recommended it. This tool may 
write logs.





Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-03 Thread jeremy ardley




On 4/12/23 10:26, Max Nikulin wrote:
 > I am curious if this creature may provide a summary on user-space OOM 
> killers. I have never tried them, but I expect that they may be more 
> intelligent than the kernel-space one. I have seen mentions of the > 
following ones: earlyoom, nohang, oomd.


I think I've found a potential culprit using about:processes

https://openai.com 110% CPU

(That's GPT4)

Firefox at this time is running around 1GB memory

The super high CPU for openai is certainly a whole bunch of javascript. 
I closed that tab and the CPU load dropped to normal. Reloading the 
openai website and CPU oscillated between 1% and 20% till it settled 
around 1%


I have also been monitoring global memory use. The last entry below is 
after I closed the openai tab


root@client:~# date; free -m
Mon 04 Dec 2023 09:14:29 AWST
   total    used    free  shared buff/cache   
available

Mem:   32023   12400   10521 426 10136   19622
Swap:    976   8 968
root@client:~# date; free -m
Mon 04 Dec 2023 10:04:56 AWST
   total    used    free  shared buff/cache   
available

Mem:   32023   12913    9959 437 10197   19110
Swap:    976   8 968
root@client:~# date; free -m
Mon 04 Dec 2023 10:28:19 AWST
   total    used    free  shared buff/cache   
available

Mem:   32023   13113    9732 419 10206   18910
Swap:    976   8 968
root@client:~# date; free -m
Mon 04 Dec 2023 10:32:58 AWST
   total    used    free  shared buff/cache   
available

Mem:   32023   12545   10297 428 10217   19478
Swap:    976   8 968

This does not explain the OOM problem, but it seems memory is slowly 
being consumed at a rate where in 24 hours I'll start seeing problems again.





Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-03 Thread Max Nikulin

On 03/12/2023 13:33, jeremy ardley wrote:

On 3/12/23 13:59, Phil Wyett wrote:

What type of content is generally being viewed/used in firefox?


A lot of video and otherwise news and search and GPT4

---

I am curious if this creature may provide a summary on user-space OOM 
killers. I have never tried them, but I expect that they may be more 
intelligent than the kernel-space one. I have seen mentions of the 
following ones: earlyoom, nohang, oomd.


Do you have AI browser extensions that may load huge models in respect 
to memory footprint?


When the system starts to become sluggish, have you looked at the 
firefox 'Task Manager' under tools to see if anything stands out?


Previously I have seen the Isolated Web Co processes maxing CPU and the 
CPU fans starting to roar. Nothing unusual in content at the time and if 
I kill all ESR related processes it quiets down and I can resume the 
closed windows and tabs at much reduced CPU


It is just a process that is responsible for some web pages. JavaScript 
loaded for particular sites may leak. Videos may consume RAM as well. I 
would not rely too much on ability of an application to recover after 
killing of its specific processes. From my point of view it is better to 
restart Firefox in such cases.


Perhaps it is possible to find a particular site that causes issues, but 
you need to inspect system namely when it is becoming sluggish.


Firefox has the about:processes and about:performance tools. They may be 
accessed from the about:about list.


Try to sort top(1) output by memory ("M" key), try df(1) to check tmpfs 
usage for the case that enough temporary video files are stored there.


I believed that 32G of RAM is still above that "average" users have, so 
it should be enough. Other suggestions surprised me that 0.5G of swap 
may significantly change anything since it is less than 2% of RAM.




Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-03 Thread Tom Dial




On 12/3/23 01:00, jeremy ardley wrote:

On 3/12/23 15:37, Phil Wyett wrote:

Not to regurgitating info here, I will add a link below that will instruct how 
to adjust or disable oom-killer in a sensible manner if you wish to experiment 
(your choice and being cautious :-)) if it is in fact the oom-killer algorithm 
that is the main cause of your issue.



The top output provided earlier seems to show nearly a gigabyte of swap, a tiny 
part of it used. You are right, though, that adding swap will not improve 
matters for long.

A small amount of swap probably is a good idea to take care of occasional 
memory overcommitment. But on an interactive system, swap thrashing that may 
happen with a (or several) greedy enough processes will kill performance for 
everything that matters, and if one or more of them is leaking memory, adding 
swap (or even more memory) will only delay the collapse.

As a reference point Isolated Web Co is an occasional annoyance here on 
machines with well over 64G memory. I kill it without mercy when it appears to 
be causing swap.

Regards,
Tom Dial




The issue is not so much Isolated Web Co being terminated, but my entire Mate 
session being terminated.

I wouldn't have too much problem if OOM-killer hit Firefox. I have done it 
myself when things got slow.

However, I can't see any valid reason for the Mate session to be assassinated? 
Or at least be inevitable collateral damage.




Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-03 Thread jeremy ardley



On 4/12/23 06:08, Michael Kjörling wrote:
The reason for the system slowing down seems to me to likely be that 
once the system comes under memory pressure (quite possibly due to an 
increase in anonymous pages), it must evict something, and only 
non-anonymous (that is, backed) pages can be evicted safely. So most 
likely the allocator starts evicting program code, because that can be 
read back from storage later, or other forms of cache, in order to 
keep room for the anonymous pages which it cannot evict. The next time 
that code is needed, it must go all the way to the (horribly slow by 
comparison) storage, instead of originally just writing out to swap 
some anonymous pages which haven't been used in comparatively forever, 
like a tmpfs that someone mentioned, or data for inactive web browser 
tabs or documents you aren't doing anything active with.



It turns out I actually do have a modest swap though I don't recall 
enabling it. It doesn't seem to be used anway.


Given  that, the system after 24 hours of typical use is nowhere near 
using up most of the memory.


I expect that the web browsers keep an eye on available memory and do 
most of their memory management/caching  in a 'fixed' allocation as well 
as the memory marked buff/cache


Here is the status just now

root@client:~# free -m
   totalusedfree  shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:   320239654   14053 3369261   22369
Swap:976   8 968



Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-03 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 3 Dec 2023 14:33 +0800, from jeremy.ard...@gmail.com (jeremy ardley):
>> You have swap and it is enabled?
> 
> No Swap. I prefer not on SSD

Why not?

You are definitely putting the VM allocator in a much more difficult
spot than necessary by not providing any swap space.

If I read what you provided in a different message in this thread
correctly, over half of your RAM at that particular time was being
used for anonymous pages; that is, data which has no backing on other
storage, and therefore cannot be evicted from virtual memory. Combine
this with the fact that you have no swap, and all that data _must_ be
kept in RAM because that's all there is. Combine _that_ with running
several rather memory-hungry processes (several web browsers plus
LibreOffice) _and_ the Linux default of allowing memory
overcommitting, and I'm not all that surprised that you're apparently
hitting the OOM killer from time to time.

The reason for the system slowing down seems to me to likely be that
once the system comes under memory pressure (quite possibly due to an
increase in anonymous pages), it must evict something, and only
non-anonymous (that is, backed) pages can be evicted safely. So most
likely the allocator starts evicting program code, because that can be
read back from storage later, or other forms of cache, in order to
keep room for the anonymous pages which it cannot evict. The next time
that code is needed, it must go all the way to the (horribly slow by
comparison) storage, instead of originally just writing out to swap
some anonymous pages which haven't been used in comparatively forever,
like a tmpfs that someone mentioned, or data for inactive web browser
tabs or documents you aren't doing anything active with.

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Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-03 Thread Reco
Hi.

On Sun, Dec 03, 2023 at 12:58:47PM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote:
> I noticed my Firefox -esr browser becoming progressively more sluggish. Then 
> suddenly I was back to the system login screen
> 
> This is not the first time this has happened although previously when it 
> started getting sluggish I killed all Firefox related process
> 
> System logs show the start of the event.
> 
> 2023-12-03T11:35:03.335043+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257070] Isolated Web 
> Co invoked oom-killer: 
> gfp_mask=0x140dca(GFP_HIGHUSER_MOVABLE|__GFP_COMP|__GFP_ZERO), order=0, 
> oom_score_adj=100

Tail of that particular trace always shows top memory consumers at the
very moment oom-killer was invoked.
Skipping that information can and will lead to guessing.


And in this particular case:

> inactive_anon:29781756kB
> anon_thp: 17088512kB

Do you have any relatively large filesystem, such as /tmp, mounted as
tmpfs? Any tmpfs contents are not accounted by free(1) or top(1), but
using large tmpfs with small swap can lead to funny results to say the
least.

Reco



Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-03 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sun, Dec 3, 2023 at 6:21 AM jeremy ardley  wrote:
>
> On 3/12/23 13:59, Phil Wyett wrote:
> > Your system RAM total is?
>
> 32G

You might also want to try compressed memory, like zram.

> > You have swap and it is enabled?
>
> No Swap. I prefer not on SSD

In this configuration, you may want to set `vm.overcommit_memory = 2`
since there is no page file. I don't think it will make the OOM go
away, but it will set a policy more in line with what you are doing.
(It may move the OOM from some random program to the browser, since
the browser is grabbing large amounts of memory).

But I would use a swap file, and set `vm.swappiness = 1`. That tells
the OS to do just about everything except use the swap file. I use
this for all my dev boards with SDcards. The swap file is needed
because the dev boards often lack resources, like having 512 MB of
RAM. (In my case, I need to run a C++ compiler, so I have to have a
swap file or accept the Denial of Service and not get my work done).

Jeff



Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-03 Thread Phil Wyett
On Sun, 2023-12-03 at 16:00 +0800, jeremy ardley wrote:
> 
> On 3/12/23 15:37, Phil Wyett wrote:
> > Not to regurgitating info here, I will add a link below that will 
> > instruct how to adjust or disable oom-killer in a sensible manner if 
> > you wish to experiment (your choice and being cautious :-)) if it is 
> > in fact the oom-killer algorithm that is the main cause of your issue.
> 
> 
> The issue is not so much Isolated Web Co being terminated, but my entire 
> Mate session being terminated.
> 
> I wouldn't have too much problem if OOM-killer hit Firefox. I have done 
> it myself when things got slow.
> 
> However, I can't see any valid reason for the Mate session to be 
> assassinated? Or at least be inevitable collateral damage.
> 

Hi,

Not being deeply familiar with the oom-killer heuristics, I could not offer 
reasoning why 'mate' is
killed. These heuristics by default kill the most memory hogging processes in 
theory and the
consequences of this on other processes I cannot comment on.

There is one setting you may wish look at and consider.

Reading:

https://docs.kernel.org/admin-guide/sysctl/vm.html

I see the following:

https://docs.kernel.org/admin-guide/sysctl/vm.html?highlight=laptop#oom-kill-allocating-task

Setting this to '1' may trigger a strategy that does not put 'mate' in the 
firing line as it changes
the target for killing to the process call that triggers the out of memory 
condition. I am sure if
my reading of this setting is wrong, someone will correct.

This would be done of course at your own risk after doing the research yourself.

Regards

Phil

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Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-03 Thread Phil Wyett
On Sun, 2023-12-03 at 14:59 +0800, jeremy ardley wrote:
> 
> On 3/12/23 14:46, Phil Wyett wrote:
> > The first thing I would do before any other is to enable swap and see 
> > what benefits that brings. I have no production laptop or desktop 
> > (laptop with 32G being daily driver with NVME (root) and an SSD (home) 
> > drive inside) that does not have swap. I have 8G of swap on my laptop 
> > and it does get used by the system, but only in low amounts. Others 
> > may have other strategies here, but this is where I would start.
> 
> 
> I don't think it is actually a lack of memory. What I do see is all the 
> web browsers are up there on CPU along with nvidia-modeset.
> 
> Putting in swap may delay the time things start going awry but the cause 
> won't be lack of memory
> 
> top CPU
> 
> top - 14:55:15 up 44 days, 41 min,  1 user,  load average: 0.19, 0.19, 0.19
> Tasks: 386 total,   1 running, 385 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
> %Cpu(s):  0.6 us,  0.2 sy,  0.0 ni, 99.1 id,  0.1 wa,  0.0 hi, 0.0 si,  
> 0.0 st
> MiB Mem :  32023.4 total,  19201.2 free,   7118.7 used,   6564.6 buff/cache
> MiB Swap:    977.0 total,    968.1 free,  8.9 used.  24904.6 avail Mem
> 
>  PID USER  PR  NI    VIRT    RES    SHR S  %CPU  %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
> 3433245 jeremy    20   0 2584752 210788 100352 S   4.3   0.6 0:25.77 
> Isolated Web Co
> 3423627 jeremy    20   0 1140.1g 326428 130228 S   2.6   1.0 6:12.36 chrome
> 3423253 jeremy    20   0   32.9g 387804 299712 S   1.0   1.2 2:25.86 chrome
>  723 root  20   0   0  0  0 S   0.7   0.0 269:07.26 
> nvidia-modeset/kthread_q
> 3432484 jeremy    20   0 3689468 688004 243920 S   0.7   2.1 1:01.72 
> firefox-esr
> 3433214 root  20   0   11880   5348   3196 R   0.7   0.0 0:03.16 top
> 3422887 jeremy    20   0  697716  55924  40800 S   0.3   0.2 0:07.98 
> mate-terminal
> 3423206 jeremy    20   0   32.8g 434756 252740 S   0.3   1.3 1:32.29 chrome
> 3423254 jeremy    20   0   32.4g 129252 101388 S   0.3   0.4 0:28.83 chrome
> 3428534 jeremy    20   0   32.6g 480104 145044 S   0.3   1.5 2:43.60 
> chromium
> 3428658 jeremy    20   0 1134.0g 212384 117084 S   0.3   0.6 7:09.41 
> chromium
>    1 root  20   0  168800  10412   6324 S   0.0   0.0 0:45.56 
> systemd
>    2 root  20   0   0  0  0 S   0.0   0.0 0:01.82 
> kthreadd
>    3 root   0 -20   0  0  0 I   0.0   0.0 0:00.00 
> rcu_gp
>    4 root   0 -20   0  0  0 I   0.0   0.0 0:00.00 
> rcu_par_gp
>    5 root   0 -20   0  0  0 I   0.0   0.0 0:00.00 
> slub_flushwq
>    6 root   0 -20   0  0  0 I   0.0   0.0 0:00.00 netns
>    8 root   0 -20   0  0  0 I   0.0   0.0 0:00.00 
> kworker/0:0H-events_highpri
> 
> 
> top memory
> 
> top - 14:58:34 up 44 days, 45 min,  1 user,  load average: 0.27, 0.23, 0.20
> Tasks: 384 total,   3 running, 381 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
> %Cpu(s):  0.8 us,  0.4 sy,  0.0 ni, 98.7 id,  0.1 wa,  0.0 hi, 0.1 si,  
> 0.0 st
> MiB Mem :  32023.4 total,  19055.2 free,   7260.6 used,   6570.2 buff/cache
> MiB Swap:    977.0 total,    968.1 free,  8.9 used.  24762.8 avail Mem
> 
>  PID USER  PR  NI    VIRT    RES    SHR S  %CPU  %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
> 3422963 jeremy    20   0 4032104 979264 208004 S   0.0   3.0 5:20.33 
> thunderbird
> 3432484 jeremy    20   0 3679780 711916 250108 S   1.3   2.2 1:13.98 
> firefox-esr
> 3428534 jeremy    20   0   32.6g 480364 144980 R   1.7   1.5 2:46.34 
> chromium
> 3423206 jeremy    20   0   32.8g 434600 252740 S   0.0   1.3 1:32.66 chrome
> 3422183 root  20   0   25.0g 419692 139016 S   0.3   1.3 0:47.61 Xorg
> 3423253 jeremy    20   0   32.9g 387540 299712 S   1.3   1.2 2:28.33 chrome
>     1750 jeremy    20   0 1163816 380224   9776 S   0.0   1.2 3:53.92 
> goa-daemon
> 3423627 jeremy    20   0 1140.1g 326700 130228 S   3.6   1.0 6:19.81 chrome
> 3422581 jeremy    20   0 7293420 311912  78012 S   0.3   1.0 0:40.50 
> dropbox
> 3423600 jeremy    20   0 1134.1g 294804 128548 S   0.0   0.9 0:46.53 chrome
> 3428484 jeremy    20   0   32.7g 266044 192084 S   0.3   0.8 0:38.63 
> chromium
>     2320 jeremy    20   0 1752388 244220  12876 S   0.0   0.7 7:20.61 
> evolution-calen
> 3433245 jeremy    20   0 2584752 212408 100480 S   0.0   0.6 0:32.45 
> Isolated Web Co
>     1664 jeremy 9 -11  240828 203652   5716 S   0.0   0.6 7,25 
> pipewire-pulse
> 3433581 jeremy    20   0 296 201664  98504 S   0.7   0.6 0:03.09 
> Isolated Web Co
> 3428658 jeremy    20   0 1134.0g 200140 117084 R   4.3   0.6 7:18.18 
> chromium
> 3432583 jeremy    20   0   18.7g 191500 108380 S   0.3   0.6 0:10.79 
> WebExtensions
> 3433289 jeremy    20   0 2549968 181504  97876 S   0.0   0.6 0:03.47 
> Isolated Web Co
> 3422461 jeremy    20   0 1385296 158252  94932 S   0.0   0.5 0:20.50 
> nextcloud
> 3428536 jeremy    20   0   32.4g 152468 132780 S   0.3   0.5 0:19.69 
> chromium
> 3432350 jeremy    20   0 1134.0g 

Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-03 Thread jeremy ardley



On 3/12/23 15:37, Phil Wyett wrote:
Not to regurgitating info here, I will add a link below that will 
instruct how to adjust or disable oom-killer in a sensible manner if 
you wish to experiment (your choice and being cautious :-)) if it is 
in fact the oom-killer algorithm that is the main cause of your issue.



The issue is not so much Isolated Web Co being terminated, but my entire 
Mate session being terminated.


I wouldn't have too much problem if OOM-killer hit Firefox. I have done 
it myself when things got slow.


However, I can't see any valid reason for the Mate session to be 
assassinated? Or at least be inevitable collateral damage.




Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-02 Thread David Christensen

On 12/2/23 20:58, jeremy ardley wrote:
I noticed my Firefox -esr browser becoming progressively more 
sluggish. Then suddenly I was back to the system login screen


This is not the first time this has happened although previously
when it started getting sluggish I killed all Firefox related
process

System logs show the start of the event.

2023-12-03T11:35:03.335043+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257070] 
Isolated Web Co invoked oom-killer: 
gfp_mask=0x140dca(GFP_HIGHUSER_MOVABLE|__GFP_COMP|__GFP_ZERO), 
order=0, oom_score_adj=100



On 12/2/23 22:33, jeremy ardley wrote:


On 3/12/23 13:59, Phil Wyett wrote:

Your system RAM total is?


32G



You have swap and it is enabled?


No Swap. I prefer not on SSD



What Desktop Environment (DE) are you using - GNOME, KDE etc.?


Mate with multiple panels.


How many apps would you normally be running on the system at once?



3 x web browsers Firefox - multiple windows,  Chrome one window, 
Chromium one window


Intermittently mate terminals and LibreOffice applications



How many extensions have you installed/running in firefox?



Several. All the usual blockers plus bypass paywalls clean and Multi
 Account Containers


How many tabs would you normally have open?



In firefox, perhaps 20 over two windows



What type of content is generally being viewed/used in firefox?



A lot of video and otherwise news and search and GPT4


When the system starts to become sluggish, have you looked at the 
firefox 'Task Manager' under tools to see if anything stands out?



Previously I have seen the Isolated Web Co processes maxing CPU and 
the CPU fans starting to roar. Nothing unusual in content at the

time and if I kill all ESR related processes it quiets down and I
can resume the closed windows and tabs at much reduced CPU

It's obvious the main culprit is Firefox-ESR and the Isolated Web Co
 processes. What triggers it other than elapsed time I have no idea



On 12/2/23 22:59, jeremy ardley wrote:

I don't think it is actually a lack of memory. What I do see is all
the web browsers are up there on CPU along with nvidia-modeset.

Putting in swap may delay the time things start going awry but the
cause won't be lack of memory


I tried running a Debian desktop without swap and encountered the same 
symptom -- crashed desktop and return to login screen.  The solution was 
two-fold:


1.  Provision 1 GB of swap.

2.  Add Xfce panel widgets so that I can see what is going on.


Between the two, I usually have enough time to kill problem apps before 
a crash.



And, more memory would not hurt.


David



Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-02 Thread Phil Wyett
On Sun, 2023-12-03 at 14:59 +0800, jeremy ardley wrote:
> 
> On 3/12/23 14:46, Phil Wyett wrote:
> > The first thing I would do before any other is to enable swap and see 
> > what benefits that brings. I have no production laptop or desktop 
> > (laptop with 32G being daily driver with NVME (root) and an SSD (home) 
> > drive inside) that does not have swap. I have 8G of swap on my laptop 
> > and it does get used by the system, but only in low amounts. Others 
> > may have other strategies here, but this is where I would start.
> 
> 
> I don't think it is actually a lack of memory. What I do see is all the 
> web browsers are up there on CPU along with nvidia-modeset.
> 
> Putting in swap may delay the time things start going awry but the cause 
> won't be lack of memory
> 
> top CPU
> 
> top - 14:55:15 up 44 days, 41 min,  1 user,  load average: 0.19, 0.19, 0.19
> Tasks: 386 total,   1 running, 385 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
> %Cpu(s):  0.6 us,  0.2 sy,  0.0 ni, 99.1 id,  0.1 wa,  0.0 hi, 0.0 si,  
> 0.0 st
> MiB Mem :  32023.4 total,  19201.2 free,   7118.7 used,   6564.6 buff/cache
> MiB Swap:    977.0 total,    968.1 free,  8.9 used.  24904.6 avail Mem
> 
>  PID USER  PR  NI    VIRT    RES    SHR S  %CPU  %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
> 3433245 jeremy    20   0 2584752 210788 100352 S   4.3   0.6 0:25.77 
> Isolated Web Co
> 3423627 jeremy    20   0 1140.1g 326428 130228 S   2.6   1.0 6:12.36 chrome
> 3423253 jeremy    20   0   32.9g 387804 299712 S   1.0   1.2 2:25.86 chrome
>  723 root  20   0   0  0  0 S   0.7   0.0 269:07.26 
> nvidia-modeset/kthread_q
> 3432484 jeremy    20   0 3689468 688004 243920 S   0.7   2.1 1:01.72 
> firefox-esr
> 3433214 root  20   0   11880   5348   3196 R   0.7   0.0 0:03.16 top
> 3422887 jeremy    20   0  697716  55924  40800 S   0.3   0.2 0:07.98 
> mate-terminal
> 3423206 jeremy    20   0   32.8g 434756 252740 S   0.3   1.3 1:32.29 chrome
> 3423254 jeremy    20   0   32.4g 129252 101388 S   0.3   0.4 0:28.83 chrome
> 3428534 jeremy    20   0   32.6g 480104 145044 S   0.3   1.5 2:43.60 
> chromium
> 3428658 jeremy    20   0 1134.0g 212384 117084 S   0.3   0.6 7:09.41 
> chromium
>    1 root  20   0  168800  10412   6324 S   0.0   0.0 0:45.56 
> systemd
>    2 root  20   0   0  0  0 S   0.0   0.0 0:01.82 
> kthreadd
>    3 root   0 -20   0  0  0 I   0.0   0.0 0:00.00 
> rcu_gp
>    4 root   0 -20   0  0  0 I   0.0   0.0 0:00.00 
> rcu_par_gp
>    5 root   0 -20   0  0  0 I   0.0   0.0 0:00.00 
> slub_flushwq
>    6 root   0 -20   0  0  0 I   0.0   0.0 0:00.00 netns
>    8 root   0 -20   0  0  0 I   0.0   0.0 0:00.00 
> kworker/0:0H-events_highpri
> 
> 
> top memory
> 
> top - 14:58:34 up 44 days, 45 min,  1 user,  load average: 0.27, 0.23, 0.20
> Tasks: 384 total,   3 running, 381 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
> %Cpu(s):  0.8 us,  0.4 sy,  0.0 ni, 98.7 id,  0.1 wa,  0.0 hi, 0.1 si,  
> 0.0 st
> MiB Mem :  32023.4 total,  19055.2 free,   7260.6 used,   6570.2 buff/cache
> MiB Swap:    977.0 total,    968.1 free,  8.9 used.  24762.8 avail Mem
> 
>  PID USER  PR  NI    VIRT    RES    SHR S  %CPU  %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
> 3422963 jeremy    20   0 4032104 979264 208004 S   0.0   3.0 5:20.33 
> thunderbird
> 3432484 jeremy    20   0 3679780 711916 250108 S   1.3   2.2 1:13.98 
> firefox-esr
> 3428534 jeremy    20   0   32.6g 480364 144980 R   1.7   1.5 2:46.34 
> chromium
> 3423206 jeremy    20   0   32.8g 434600 252740 S   0.0   1.3 1:32.66 chrome
> 3422183 root  20   0   25.0g 419692 139016 S   0.3   1.3 0:47.61 Xorg
> 3423253 jeremy    20   0   32.9g 387540 299712 S   1.3   1.2 2:28.33 chrome
>     1750 jeremy    20   0 1163816 380224   9776 S   0.0   1.2 3:53.92 
> goa-daemon
> 3423627 jeremy    20   0 1140.1g 326700 130228 S   3.6   1.0 6:19.81 chrome
> 3422581 jeremy    20   0 7293420 311912  78012 S   0.3   1.0 0:40.50 
> dropbox
> 3423600 jeremy    20   0 1134.1g 294804 128548 S   0.0   0.9 0:46.53 chrome
> 3428484 jeremy    20   0   32.7g 266044 192084 S   0.3   0.8 0:38.63 
> chromium
>     2320 jeremy    20   0 1752388 244220  12876 S   0.0   0.7 7:20.61 
> evolution-calen
> 3433245 jeremy    20   0 2584752 212408 100480 S   0.0   0.6 0:32.45 
> Isolated Web Co
>     1664 jeremy 9 -11  240828 203652   5716 S   0.0   0.6 7,25 
> pipewire-pulse
> 3433581 jeremy    20   0 296 201664  98504 S   0.7   0.6 0:03.09 
> Isolated Web Co
> 3428658 jeremy    20   0 1134.0g 200140 117084 R   4.3   0.6 7:18.18 
> chromium
> 3432583 jeremy    20   0   18.7g 191500 108380 S   0.3   0.6 0:10.79 
> WebExtensions
> 3433289 jeremy    20   0 2549968 181504  97876 S   0.0   0.6 0:03.47 
> Isolated Web Co
> 3422461 jeremy    20   0 1385296 158252  94932 S   0.0   0.5 0:20.50 
> nextcloud
> 3428536 jeremy    20   0   32.4g 152468 132780 S   0.3   0.5 0:19.69 
> chromium
> 3432350 jeremy    20   0 1134.0g 

Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-02 Thread Tom Furie
jeremy ardley  writes:

> I don't think it is actually a lack of memory. What I do see is all
> the web browsers are up there on CPU along with nvidia-modeset.

What do you consider to be "up there"? 4.3% (your highest CPU usage in
this output) hardly seems to qualify as something to be concerned
about. nvidia-modeset is consuming a whopping 0.7% CPU.

I assume these numbers are while the system is operating normally and
not when it starts to struggle. Why do you think heavy CPU load would
cause the OOM killer to activate? Some precesses just don't appreciate
having no swap available.



Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-02 Thread jeremy ardley



On 3/12/23 14:46, Phil Wyett wrote:
The first thing I would do before any other is to enable swap and see 
what benefits that brings. I have no production laptop or desktop 
(laptop with 32G being daily driver with NVME (root) and an SSD (home) 
drive inside) that does not have swap. I have 8G of swap on my laptop 
and it does get used by the system, but only in low amounts. Others 
may have other strategies here, but this is where I would start.



I don't think it is actually a lack of memory. What I do see is all the 
web browsers are up there on CPU along with nvidia-modeset.


Putting in swap may delay the time things start going awry but the cause 
won't be lack of memory


top CPU

top - 14:55:15 up 44 days, 41 min,  1 user,  load average: 0.19, 0.19, 0.19
Tasks: 386 total,   1 running, 385 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
%Cpu(s):  0.6 us,  0.2 sy,  0.0 ni, 99.1 id,  0.1 wa,  0.0 hi, 0.0 si,  
0.0 st

MiB Mem :  32023.4 total,  19201.2 free,   7118.7 used,   6564.6 buff/cache
MiB Swap:    977.0 total,    968.1 free,  8.9 used.  24904.6 avail Mem

    PID USER  PR  NI    VIRT    RES    SHR S  %CPU  %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
3433245 jeremy    20   0 2584752 210788 100352 S   4.3   0.6 0:25.77 
Isolated Web Co

3423627 jeremy    20   0 1140.1g 326428 130228 S   2.6   1.0 6:12.36 chrome
3423253 jeremy    20   0   32.9g 387804 299712 S   1.0   1.2 2:25.86 chrome
    723 root  20   0   0  0  0 S   0.7   0.0 269:07.26 
nvidia-modeset/kthread_q
3432484 jeremy    20   0 3689468 688004 243920 S   0.7   2.1 1:01.72 
firefox-esr

3433214 root  20   0   11880   5348   3196 R   0.7   0.0 0:03.16 top
3422887 jeremy    20   0  697716  55924  40800 S   0.3   0.2 0:07.98 
mate-terminal

3423206 jeremy    20   0   32.8g 434756 252740 S   0.3   1.3 1:32.29 chrome
3423254 jeremy    20   0   32.4g 129252 101388 S   0.3   0.4 0:28.83 chrome
3428534 jeremy    20   0   32.6g 480104 145044 S   0.3   1.5 2:43.60 
chromium
3428658 jeremy    20   0 1134.0g 212384 117084 S   0.3   0.6 7:09.41 
chromium
  1 root  20   0  168800  10412   6324 S   0.0   0.0 0:45.56 
systemd
  2 root  20   0   0  0  0 S   0.0   0.0 0:01.82 
kthreadd
  3 root   0 -20   0  0  0 I   0.0   0.0 0:00.00 
rcu_gp
  4 root   0 -20   0  0  0 I   0.0   0.0 0:00.00 
rcu_par_gp
  5 root   0 -20   0  0  0 I   0.0   0.0 0:00.00 
slub_flushwq

  6 root   0 -20   0  0  0 I   0.0   0.0 0:00.00 netns
  8 root   0 -20   0  0  0 I   0.0   0.0 0:00.00 
kworker/0:0H-events_highpri



top memory

top - 14:58:34 up 44 days, 45 min,  1 user,  load average: 0.27, 0.23, 0.20
Tasks: 384 total,   3 running, 381 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
%Cpu(s):  0.8 us,  0.4 sy,  0.0 ni, 98.7 id,  0.1 wa,  0.0 hi, 0.1 si,  
0.0 st

MiB Mem :  32023.4 total,  19055.2 free,   7260.6 used,   6570.2 buff/cache
MiB Swap:    977.0 total,    968.1 free,  8.9 used.  24762.8 avail Mem

    PID USER  PR  NI    VIRT    RES    SHR S  %CPU  %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
3422963 jeremy    20   0 4032104 979264 208004 S   0.0   3.0 5:20.33 
thunderbird
3432484 jeremy    20   0 3679780 711916 250108 S   1.3   2.2 1:13.98 
firefox-esr
3428534 jeremy    20   0   32.6g 480364 144980 R   1.7   1.5 2:46.34 
chromium

3423206 jeremy    20   0   32.8g 434600 252740 S   0.0   1.3 1:32.66 chrome
3422183 root  20   0   25.0g 419692 139016 S   0.3   1.3 0:47.61 Xorg
3423253 jeremy    20   0   32.9g 387540 299712 S   1.3   1.2 2:28.33 chrome
   1750 jeremy    20   0 1163816 380224   9776 S   0.0   1.2 3:53.92 
goa-daemon

3423627 jeremy    20   0 1140.1g 326700 130228 S   3.6   1.0 6:19.81 chrome
3422581 jeremy    20   0 7293420 311912  78012 S   0.3   1.0 0:40.50 
dropbox

3423600 jeremy    20   0 1134.1g 294804 128548 S   0.0   0.9 0:46.53 chrome
3428484 jeremy    20   0   32.7g 266044 192084 S   0.3   0.8 0:38.63 
chromium
   2320 jeremy    20   0 1752388 244220  12876 S   0.0   0.7 7:20.61 
evolution-calen
3433245 jeremy    20   0 2584752 212408 100480 S   0.0   0.6 0:32.45 
Isolated Web Co
   1664 jeremy 9 -11  240828 203652   5716 S   0.0   0.6 7,25 
pipewire-pulse
3433581 jeremy    20   0 296 201664  98504 S   0.7   0.6 0:03.09 
Isolated Web Co
3428658 jeremy    20   0 1134.0g 200140 117084 R   4.3   0.6 7:18.18 
chromium
3432583 jeremy    20   0   18.7g 191500 108380 S   0.3   0.6 0:10.79 
WebExtensions
3433289 jeremy    20   0 2549968 181504  97876 S   0.0   0.6 0:03.47 
Isolated Web Co
3422461 jeremy    20   0 1385296 158252  94932 S   0.0   0.5 0:20.50 
nextcloud
3428536 jeremy    20   0   32.4g 152468 132780 S   0.3   0.5 0:19.69 
chromium

3432350 jeremy    20   0 1134.0g 143620 103132 S   0.0   0.4 0:01.76 chrome
3423380 jeremy    20   0 1132.0g 141860 100880 S   0.0   0.4 0:03.64 chrome
3423715 jeremy    20   0 1132.0g 137276 102264 S   0.0   0.4 0:02.83 chrome
3432598 jeremy    20   0 2477752 135292  98484 S   0.0   0.4 0:02.16 

Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-02 Thread Phil Wyett
On Sun, 2023-12-03 at 14:33 +0800, jeremy ardley wrote:
> 
> On 3/12/23 13:59, Phil Wyett wrote:
> > Your system RAM total is?
> 
> 32G
> 
> 
> > You have swap and it is enabled?
> 
> No Swap. I prefer not on SSD
> 
> 
> 

Hi,

The first thing I would do before any other is to enable swap and see what 
benefits that brings.

I have no production laptop or desktop (laptop with 32G being daily driver with 
NVME (root) and an
SSD (home) drive inside) that does not have swap. I have 8G of swap on my 
laptop and it does get
used by the system, but only in low amounts.

Others may have other strategies here, but this is where I would start.

Regards

Phil

-- 
Playing the game for the games sake.

Web:

* Debian Wiki: https://wiki.debian.org/PhilWyett
* Website: https://kathenas.org



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Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-02 Thread jeremy ardley



On 3/12/23 13:59, Phil Wyett wrote:

Your system RAM total is?


32G



You have swap and it is enabled?


No Swap. I prefer not on SSD



What Desktop Environment (DE) are you using - GNOME, KDE etc.?


Mate with multiple panels.

How many apps would you normally be running on the system at once? 



3 x web browsers Firefox - multiple windows,  Chrome one window, 
Chromium one window


Intermittently mate terminals and LibreOffice applications



How many extensions have you installed/running in firefox?



Several. All the usual blockers plus bypass paywalls clean and Multi 
Account Containers



How many tabs would you normally have open?



In firefox, perhaps 20 over two windows



What type of content is generally being viewed/used in firefox?



A lot of video and otherwise news and search and GPT4


When the system starts to become sluggish, have you looked at the 
firefox 'Task Manager' under tools to see if anything stands out?



Previously I have seen the Isolated Web Co processes maxing CPU and the 
CPU fans starting to roar. Nothing unusual in content at the time and if 
I kill all ESR related processes it quiets down and I can resume the 
closed windows and tabs at much reduced CPU


It's obvious the main culprit is Firefox-ESR and the Isolated Web Co 
processes. What triggers it other than elapsed time I have no idea




Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-02 Thread Phil Wyett
On Sun, 2023-12-03 at 12:58 +0800, jeremy ardley wrote:
> I noticed my Firefox -esr browser becoming progressively more sluggish. 
> Then suddenly I was back to the system login screen
> 
> This is not the first time this has happened although previously when it 
> started getting sluggish I killed all Firefox related process
> 
> System logs show the start of the event.
> 
> 2023-12-03T11:35:03.335043+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257070] 
> Isolated Web Co invoked oom-killer: 
> gfp_mask=0x140dca(GFP_HIGHUSER_MOVABLE|__GFP_COMP|__GFP_ZERO), order=0, 
> oom_score_adj=100
> 2023-12-03T11:35:03.335962+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257078] CPU: 8 
> PID: 3410924 Comm: Isolated Web Co Tainted: P OE  6.1.0-13-amd64 #1  
> Debian 6.1.55-1
> 2023-12-03T11:35:03.335964+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257081] 
> Hardware name: System manufacturer System Product Name/PRIME B450M-A, 
> BIOS 0219 06/08/2018
> 2023-12-03T11:35:03.335965+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257082] Call Trace:
> 2023-12-03T11:35:03.335966+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257085] 
> 2023-12-03T11:35:03.335967+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257088] 
> dump_stack_lvl+0x44/0x5c
> 2023-12-03T11:35:03.335968+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257094] 
> dump_header+0x4a/0x211
> 2023-12-03T11:35:03.335978+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257097] 
> oom_kill_process.cold+0xb/0x10
> 2023-12-03T11:35:03.335979+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257100] 
> out_of_memory+0x1fd/0x4c0
> 2023-12-03T11:35:03.335980+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257104] 
> __alloc_pages_slowpath.constprop.0+0xc73/0xdc0
> 2023-12-03T11:35:03.335981+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257108] 
> __alloc_pages+0x305/0x330
> 2023-12-03T11:35:03.335982+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257111] 
> __folio_alloc+0x17/0x50
> 2023-12-03T11:35:03.335983+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257113] ? 
> policy_node+0x51/0x70
> 2023-12-03T11:35:03.335984+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257116] 
> vma_alloc_folio+0x9c/0x370
> 2023-12-03T11:35:03.335984+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257119] 
> __handle_mm_fault+0x92f/0xfa0
> 2023-12-03T11:35:03.335985+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257123] 
> handle_mm_fault+0xdb/0x2d0
> 2023-12-03T11:35:03.335986+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257126] 
> do_user_addr_fault+0x19c/0x570
> 2023-12-03T11:35:03.335986+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257129] 
> exc_page_fault+0x70/0x170
> 2023-12-03T11:35:03.335987+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257132] 
> asm_exc_page_fault+0x22/0x30
> 2023-12-03T11:35:03.335987+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257136] RIP: 
> 0033:0x7fcb86b0dd3a
> 2023-12-03T11:35:03.335988+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257139] Code: 
> 48 89 fb 48 83 ec 18 e8 b4 de ff ff 48 85 c0 74 42 48 89 c5 48 8b 43 48 
> 48 3b 43 50 0f 84 5e 01 00 00 48 8d 50 08 48 89 53 48 <48> 89 28 4c 8b 
> bb 88 00 00 00 4d 85 ff 74 16 41 80 7f 19 00 4d 8b
> 2023-12-03T11:35:03.335989+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257140] RSP: 
> 002b:7ffc85877cd0 EFLAGS: 00010283
> 2023-12-03T11:35:03.335990+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257142] RAX: 
> 7fcb0a3b7000 RBX: 7fcb45f33000 RCX: 05937a1b
> 2023-12-03T11:35:03.335990+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257144] RDX: 
> 7fcb0a3b7008 RSI: 7fcb85941410 RDI: 
> 2023-12-03T11:35:03.335991+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257145] RBP: 
> 7fcb3ebaea08 R08: 7fcb3ebaea08 R09: 008fc63b
> 2023-12-03T11:35:03.335992+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257146] R10: 
>  R11: 0008 R12: 0558afa25450
> 2023-12-03T11:35:03.335993+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257147] R13: 
> 7ffc85877d20 R14:  R15: 148e1958de08
> 2023-12-03T11:35:03.335993+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257150] 
> 2023-12-03T11:35:03.335994+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257151] Mem-Info:
> 2023-12-03T11:35:03.335994+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257152] 
> active_anon:202973 inactive_anon:7445439 isolated_anon:0
> 2023-12-03T11:35:03.335998+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257152] 
> active_file:816 inactive_file:3360 isolated_file:0
> 2023-12-03T11:35:03.335999+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257152] 
> unevictable:2092 dirty:0 writeback:0
> 2023-12-03T11:35:03.336000+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257152] 
> slab_reclaimable:180435 slab_unreclaimable:80961
> 2023-12-03T11:35:03.336001+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257152] 
> mapped:215565 shmem:310212 pagetables:40361
> 2023-12-03T11:35:03.336001+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257152] 
> sec_pagetables:0 bounce:0
> 2023-12-03T11:35:03.336002+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257152] 
> kernel_misc_reclaimable:0
> 2023-12-03T11:35:03.336004+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257152] 
> free:81539 free_pcp:87 free_cma:0
> 2023-12-03T11:35:03.336004+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257156] Node 0 
> active_anon:811892kB inactive_anon:29781756kB active_file:3264kB 
> inactive_file:13440kB unevictable:8368kB isolated(anon):0kB 
> isolated(file):0kB mapped:862260kB dirty:0kB writeback:0kB 
> shmem:1240848kB shmem_thp: 0kB shmem_pmdmapped: 0kB anon_thp: 17088512kB 
> writeback_tmp:0kB 

Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-02 Thread Tom Furie
jeremy ardley  writes:

> I noticed my Firefox -esr browser becoming progressively more
> sluggish. Then suddenly I was back to the system login screen
>
> This is not the first time this has happened although previously when
> it started getting sluggish I killed all Firefox related process
>
> System logs show the start of the event.
>
> 2023-12-03T11:35:03.335043+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257070]
> Isolated Web Co invoked oom-killer:
  ^^

You're out of memory, the system started killing processes to keep
itself alive. It tends not be particularly "smart" about what to kill.



Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-02 Thread jeremy ardley
I noticed my Firefox -esr browser becoming progressively more sluggish. 
Then suddenly I was back to the system login screen


This is not the first time this has happened although previously when it 
started getting sluggish I killed all Firefox related process


System logs show the start of the event.

2023-12-03T11:35:03.335043+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257070] 
Isolated Web Co invoked oom-killer: 
gfp_mask=0x140dca(GFP_HIGHUSER_MOVABLE|__GFP_COMP|__GFP_ZERO), order=0, 
oom_score_adj=100
2023-12-03T11:35:03.335962+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257078] CPU: 8 
PID: 3410924 Comm: Isolated Web Co Tainted: P OE  6.1.0-13-amd64 #1  
Debian 6.1.55-1
2023-12-03T11:35:03.335964+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257081] 
Hardware name: System manufacturer System Product Name/PRIME B450M-A, 
BIOS 0219 06/08/2018

2023-12-03T11:35:03.335965+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257082] Call Trace:
2023-12-03T11:35:03.335966+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257085] 
2023-12-03T11:35:03.335967+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257088] 
dump_stack_lvl+0x44/0x5c
2023-12-03T11:35:03.335968+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257094] 
dump_header+0x4a/0x211
2023-12-03T11:35:03.335978+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257097] 
oom_kill_process.cold+0xb/0x10
2023-12-03T11:35:03.335979+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257100] 
out_of_memory+0x1fd/0x4c0
2023-12-03T11:35:03.335980+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257104] 
__alloc_pages_slowpath.constprop.0+0xc73/0xdc0
2023-12-03T11:35:03.335981+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257108] 
__alloc_pages+0x305/0x330
2023-12-03T11:35:03.335982+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257111] 
__folio_alloc+0x17/0x50
2023-12-03T11:35:03.335983+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257113] ? 
policy_node+0x51/0x70
2023-12-03T11:35:03.335984+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257116] 
vma_alloc_folio+0x9c/0x370
2023-12-03T11:35:03.335984+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257119] 
__handle_mm_fault+0x92f/0xfa0
2023-12-03T11:35:03.335985+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257123] 
handle_mm_fault+0xdb/0x2d0
2023-12-03T11:35:03.335986+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257126] 
do_user_addr_fault+0x19c/0x570
2023-12-03T11:35:03.335986+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257129] 
exc_page_fault+0x70/0x170
2023-12-03T11:35:03.335987+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257132] 
asm_exc_page_fault+0x22/0x30
2023-12-03T11:35:03.335987+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257136] RIP: 
0033:0x7fcb86b0dd3a
2023-12-03T11:35:03.335988+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257139] Code: 
48 89 fb 48 83 ec 18 e8 b4 de ff ff 48 85 c0 74 42 48 89 c5 48 8b 43 48 
48 3b 43 50 0f 84 5e 01 00 00 48 8d 50 08 48 89 53 48 <48> 89 28 4c 8b 
bb 88 00 00 00 4d 85 ff 74 16 41 80 7f 19 00 4d 8b
2023-12-03T11:35:03.335989+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257140] RSP: 
002b:7ffc85877cd0 EFLAGS: 00010283
2023-12-03T11:35:03.335990+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257142] RAX: 
7fcb0a3b7000 RBX: 7fcb45f33000 RCX: 05937a1b
2023-12-03T11:35:03.335990+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257144] RDX: 
7fcb0a3b7008 RSI: 7fcb85941410 RDI: 
2023-12-03T11:35:03.335991+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257145] RBP: 
7fcb3ebaea08 R08: 7fcb3ebaea08 R09: 008fc63b
2023-12-03T11:35:03.335992+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257146] R10: 
 R11: 0008 R12: 0558afa25450
2023-12-03T11:35:03.335993+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257147] R13: 
7ffc85877d20 R14:  R15: 148e1958de08

2023-12-03T11:35:03.335993+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257150] 
2023-12-03T11:35:03.335994+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257151] Mem-Info:
2023-12-03T11:35:03.335994+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257152] 
active_anon:202973 inactive_anon:7445439 isolated_anon:0
2023-12-03T11:35:03.335998+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257152] 
active_file:816 inactive_file:3360 isolated_file:0
2023-12-03T11:35:03.335999+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257152] 
unevictable:2092 dirty:0 writeback:0
2023-12-03T11:35:03.336000+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257152] 
slab_reclaimable:180435 slab_unreclaimable:80961
2023-12-03T11:35:03.336001+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257152] 
mapped:215565 shmem:310212 pagetables:40361
2023-12-03T11:35:03.336001+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257152] 
sec_pagetables:0 bounce:0
2023-12-03T11:35:03.336002+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257152] 
kernel_misc_reclaimable:0
2023-12-03T11:35:03.336004+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257152] 
free:81539 free_pcp:87 free_cma:0
2023-12-03T11:35:03.336004+08:00 client kernel: [3792101.257156] Node 0 
active_anon:811892kB inactive_anon:29781756kB active_file:3264kB 
inactive_file:13440kB unevictable:8368kB isolated(anon):0kB 
isolated(file):0kB mapped:862260kB dirty:0kB writeback:0kB 
shmem:1240848kB shmem_thp: 0kB shmem_pmdmapped: 0kB anon_thp: 17088512kB 
writeback_tmp:0kB kernel_stack:39