Re: How does mailutils "mail" command or cron contact local MTA?
* 2022-09-18 09:00:49-0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > In normal usage, scripts should always be calling mailx or an > equivalent program which is *designed* to create the e-mail headers > correctly. This is especially true if you're sending attachments. > Writing the MIME headers and attachment markup yourself is not going > to be fun. Mailx, or even better, Mutt: mutt [-nx] [-e command] [-F rcfile] [-b bcc-addr] [-c cc-addr] [-s subject] [-a file ... --] to-addr ... < message -- /// Teemu Likonen - .-.. https://www.iki.fi/tlikonen/ // OpenPGP: 6965F03973F0D4CA22B9410F0F2CAE0E07608462 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: How does mailutils "mail" command or cron contact local MTA?
On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 09:27:46AM +0200, Yvan Masson wrote: > So the `mailutils` package with `mail` command is optional: `sendmail` could > be used directly in scripts (but it might be a bit less practical to use, > see for example https://www.computerhope.com/unix/usendmai.htm#examples). If you call /usr/sbin/sendmail, you have to write all of the headers yourself, with correct (or at least acceptably close) syntax. The only time a shell script should be calling /usr/sbin/sendmail directly is when you're trying to do something that your MUA (mailx, et al.) doesn't allow, such as forging a bogus Date: header, or overriding the envelope sender address. In normal usage, scripts should always be calling mailx or an equivalent program which is *designed* to create the e-mail headers correctly. This is especially true if you're sending attachments. Writing the MIME headers and attachment markup yourself is not going to be fun.
Re: How does mailutils "mail" command or cron contact local MTA?
Le 18/09/2022 à 00:32, Greg Wooledge a écrit : On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 11:11:51PM +0200, Yvan Masson wrote: My question is: how cron daemon and mail command know that they should contact openSMTPd, and how? Do they try by default on localhost:25 or /run/smtpd.sock? I could not find any clue, nor in cron manpages nor in mailutils online documentation. mail(1) or mailx(1) or similar utilities run the /usr/sbin/sendmail program to inject a new message into the local MTA. /usr/sbin/sendmail was of course originally provided by the sendmail package. But later MTAs implement a /usr/sbin/sendmail compatible wrapper so that all the utilities that send mail don't have to change. Thanks Greg! Indeed, just to confirm for other interested on this topic, this is documented for `mail` command on https://mailutils.org/manual/mailutils.html#Mail-Variables, and for Vixie/ISC cron (default cron daemon on Debian) on https://salsa.debian.org/debian/cron/-/blob/master/config.h. So the `mailutils` package with `mail` command is optional: `sendmail` could be used directly in scripts (but it might be a bit less practical to use, see for example https://www.computerhope.com/unix/usendmai.htm#examples). Regards, Yvan OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: How does mailutils "mail" command or cron contact local MTA?
On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 11:11:51PM +0200, Yvan Masson wrote: > My question is: how cron daemon and mail command know that they should > contact openSMTPd, and how? Do they try by default on localhost:25 or > /run/smtpd.sock? I could not find any clue, nor in cron manpages nor in > mailutils online documentation. mail(1) or mailx(1) or similar utilities run the /usr/sbin/sendmail program to inject a new message into the local MTA. /usr/sbin/sendmail was of course originally provided by the sendmail package. But later MTAs implement a /usr/sbin/sendmail compatible wrapper so that all the utilities that send mail don't have to change.
How does mailutils "mail" command or cron contact local MTA?
Hi, I have some servers successfully configured to send notification emails, but I do not exactly understand how it works :-) I have installed openSMTPd and configured it to forward email to a relay (another SMTP server, the one from my email provider). I have also set up aliases in `/etc/aliases`. This allows me to send email from my servers, either when cron runs a task, or when I run `echo my_content | mail -s subject root` from scripts. My question is: how cron daemon and mail command know that they should contact openSMTPd, and how? Do they try by default on localhost:25 or /run/smtpd.sock? I could not find any clue, nor in cron manpages nor in mailutils online documentation. Regards, Yvan OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: replacement for mail command
On 2004-03-28, Dafydd Blaidd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greetings, > I switched from a system on Red Hat using Sendmail/Cyrus to a > system using Exim/uw-imapd and I'm looking for a replacement for the mail > command. Specifically, I'm looking for a command line mailer that allows > Subject: and Cc: header arguements. > > Recommendations? mutt. Yes, normally it is used interactively, but it provides a wealth of options that mean this can be automated: date | mutt -s "hello" -c [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] or mutt -s "hello" -c [EMAIL PROTECTED] -i pre-prepared.contents.file [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null Alexis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: replacement for mail command
Dafydd Blaidd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Greetings, > I switched from a system on Red Hat using Sendmail/Cyrus to a > system using Exim/uw-imapd and I'm looking for a replacement for the mail > command. Specifically, I'm looking for a command line mailer that allows > Subject: and Cc: header arguements. You mean, like, all of them? -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian. Because it *must* work. debian.org aboutdebian.com pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: replacement for mail command
Dave Majors writes: > I'm getting > -su: mail: command not found > I can't find either the command nor the package that contains it. It appears that it is now in the seperate 'mailx' package. It's priority important, though. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: replacement for mail command
On Sat, 27 Mar 2004, John Hasler wrote: > > I'm looking for a command line mailer that allows Subject: and Cc: > > header arguements. > Just use the 'mail' command. It isn't unique to Sendmail. I'm getting -su: mail: command not found I can't find either the command nor the package that contains it. -- Dave Majors [EMAIL PROTECTED] (subscribed) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: replacement for mail command
Dave Majors writes: > I switched from a system on Red Hat using Sendmail/Cyrus to a system > using Exim/uw-imapd and I'm looking for a replacement for the mail > command. Specifically, I'm looking for a command line mailer that allows > Subject: and Cc: header arguements. > Recommendations? Just use the 'mail' command. It isn't unique to Sendmail. -- John Hasler You may treat this work as if it [EMAIL PROTECTED] were in the public domain. Dancing Horse HillI waive all rights. Elmwood, Wisconsin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
replacement for mail command
Greetings, I switched from a system on Red Hat using Sendmail/Cyrus to a system using Exim/uw-imapd and I'm looking for a replacement for the mail command. Specifically, I'm looking for a command line mailer that allows Subject: and Cc: header arguements. Recommendations? -- Dave Majors [EMAIL PROTECTED] (subscribed) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: adding an attatchment using the mail command?
Mark C. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >Hi, > >I run a nightly cronjob to back up certain system files, for the life >of me I cannot add them as an attatchment, when I mail to files to >myself, they always got put into the message body. Reading the man >pages gives no indication of how to do this, and I'm not sure if you >can with the 'mail' command (I suppose sendmail would be the other >alternative). > >and googling fails to come up with the correct results (probally my >search string). I always do something like this: mutt -a some_file -a other_file ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] < mesage_body.txt and works pretty good :-) -- Cristian Gutierrez http://www.dcc.uchile.cl/~crgutier [EMAIL PROTECTED]Jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] the premature program optimization is the root of all evils -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: adding an attatchment using the mail command?
On Wed, Jan 07, 2004 at 04:01:27PM +, Mark C wrote: > Hi, > > I run a nightly cronjob to back up certain system files, for the life of > me I cannot add them as an attatchment, when I mail to files to myself, > they always got put into the message body. Reading the man pages gives > no indication of how to do this, and I'm not sure if you can with the > 'mail' command (I suppose sendmail would be the other alternative). > > and googling fails to come up with the correct results (probally my > search string). > > Any advise would be appreciated > > Regards > > Mark > Hi Mark, try biabam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: adding an attatchment using the mail command?
On Wed, 2004-01-07 at 17:13, Morten Bo Johansen wrote: > You can't do it with 'mail'. You can use 'nail' instead which does > attachments. If you already have mutt installed you can use that as > well to send mail with attachments in batch mode. Cheers, I do have mutt installed, which is what I generally use when working remotely, will give nail a bash.. Cheers Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: adding an attatchment using the mail command?
On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 16:01:27 - (GMT) Mark C wrote: > I run a nightly cronjob to back up certain system files, for the life of > me I cannot add them as an attatchment, when I mail to files to myself, > they always got put into the message body. Reading the man pages gives > no indication of how to do this, and I'm not sure if you can with the > 'mail' command (I suppose sendmail would be the other alternative). You can't do it with 'mail'. You can use 'nail' instead which does attachments. If you already have mutt installed you can use that as well to send mail with attachments in batch mode. HTH, Morten -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: adding an attatchment using the mail command?
On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 16:01:27 +, Mark C wrote: > I run a nightly cronjob to back up certain system files, for the life of > me I cannot add them as an attatchment, when I mail to files to myself, > they always got put into the message body. Reading the man pages gives > no indication of how to do this, and I'm not sure if you can with the > 'mail' command (I suppose sendmail would be the other alternative). Not really, I'm afraid. RFC822 doesn't have it on attachments and mime (yet). So your mail -s "My backup" [EMAIL PROTECTED] < backupfile necessarily ends that file up in the message body. And 'mail' is just a frontend to the Mail Transfer Agent; e.g. sendmail. In order to help you further, you better specify more details. Some ftp / nc / nfs might be useful here, depending on the circumstances. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
adding an attatchment using the mail command?
Hi, I run a nightly cronjob to back up certain system files, for the life of me I cannot add them as an attatchment, when I mail to files to myself, they always got put into the message body. Reading the man pages gives no indication of how to do this, and I'm not sure if you can with the 'mail' command (I suppose sendmail would be the other alternative). and googling fails to come up with the correct results (probally my search string). Any advise would be appreciated Regards Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: mail: command not found
Monday, April 01, 2002, 12:48:01 PM, Eric G. Miller wrote: > apt-get install mailx. Excellent, thank you! > If you like such a program, you might like nmh... I got it and am reading the manual on it. It looks interesting, but may be more commands to remember on a router. =] -- - Alan Poulton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Confucius say: Man who put head in fruit drink get punch in nose. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mail: command not found
On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 12:29:06PM -0800, Alan Poulton wrote: > Hi all > > I seem to have lost my "mail" command. When I log on, either as my > regular account, or as root to do some sysadmin'ing, I get a message > saying "You have new mail" and I used to be able to just type "mail" to > access it. But, as of yesterday, I get "mail: command not found". I've > done an updatedb and a locate mail to try to locate it, and it's just > not there. > > How can I go about re-installing this mail thing? apt-get install mailx. If you like such a program, you might like nmh... -- Eric G. Miller -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mail: command not found
Hi all I seem to have lost my "mail" command. When I log on, either as my regular account, or as root to do some sysadmin'ing, I get a message saying "You have new mail" and I used to be able to just type "mail" to access it. But, as of yesterday, I get "mail: command not found". I've done an updatedb and a locate mail to try to locate it, and it's just not there. How can I go about re-installing this mail thing? -- - Alan Poulton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Confucius say: Can not change wife of 40 for two twenties -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting the "mail" command to work
> Does anyone know what needs to be done in order to get the mail command to > work? > > Right now I'm trying to do: > >mail -s "test from command line" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I I have postfix installed. > Have you installed mailx? [11:23:06 tmp]$ dpkg -S $(which mail) mailx: /usr/bin/mail [11:23:23 tmp]$ -- Shaul Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Getting the "mail" command to work
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 05:27:33AM -0500, Stephen Boulet wrote: > Does anyone know what needs to be done in order to get the mail command to > work? > > Right now I'm trying to do: > >mail -s "test from command line" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I I have postfix installed. if it doesn't work then something is wrong with your postfix setup. check your mail logs for hints as to whats going wrong. postfix is generally pretty easy to get going. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgp46Q5G0jfAt.pgp Description: PGP signature
Getting the "mail" command to work
Does anyone know what needs to be done in order to get the mail command to work? Right now I'm trying to do: mail -s "test from command line" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I I have postfix installed.
Re: Mail command
> Hi,
>
> As I am on a university network I have no right to send mail on my
> machine. So I haven't installed any mail software until now. However, I
> have set up my web page with stuff for downloading and a form. I would
> like to have the cgi script to send an internal mail to a user on my
> machine , no mail messages will be leaving the machine. Thw script
> requires the binary /usr/bin/mail , the standard mail program, or
> equivalent, which I
> haven't been able to find. I have installed smail with no network and
> pine. It works fine but if I can't get some form of non-interative mail
> program I can't get the cgi script to work.
>
> Anybody can tell me of the equivalent of /usr/bin/mail for Debian ??
Install "mailx" package for simple non-interactive mailer.
It contains /usr/bin/mail binary you are looking for.
Alex Y.
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Hi, As I am on a university network I have no right to send mail on my machine. So I haven't installed any mail software until now. However, I have set up my web page with stuff for downloading and a form. I would like to have the cgi script to send an internal mail to a user on my machine , no mail messages will be leaving the machine. Thw script requires the binary /usr/bin/mail , the standard mail program, or equivalent, which I haven't been able to find. I have installed smail with no network and pine. It works fine but if I can't get some form of non-interative mail program I can't get the cgi script to work. Anybody can tell me of the equivalent of /usr/bin/mail for Debian ?? Thanks George --- George Kapetanios Churchill College Cambridge, CB3 0DSE-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] U.K. WWW: http://garfield.chu.cam.ac.uk/~gk205/work_info.html --- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
