Re: [some progress] Re: NVIDIA cards stopped working with recent testing updates

2011-05-17 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Lu, 16 mai 11, 15:03:39, Russell L. Carter wrote:
 
 Not now... I reinstalled from scratch and after spending a few hours
 learning the ins and outs of the udev bug (fix by rm -f /run, hmm) I have
 a brand spanking new installation running nvidia-kernel-dkms successfully.

- current udev in sid falls back to /dev/.udev if /run is not available
- /run *is* necessary now and correctly supported by current initscripts 
  in sid

Conclusion: this hack is not necessary anymore.

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Re: [some progress] Re: NVIDIA cards stopped working with recent testing updates

2011-05-16 Thread tv.deb...@googlemail.com
15/05/2011 20:52, Russell L. Carter wrote:
 
 First, thanks much to the people on the other side of the globe who
 see a new day before me.  I have dug deeper and can now get more specific
 about the nvidia blank screen problem.  (For the record, I have a
 fixed hardware config that I've tracked debian-testing on for two
 years, and also tracking nvidia drivers.  I used to just download
 them from nvidia.com but for the past few months I've been using
 dkms, which has worked beautifully.)
 
[...]
 (The recent memcpy/memmove issue is orthogonal to kernel modules,
 right?)
[...]

Not sure about that, I take it you are running the current testing/Sid
libc6 (2.13-4). The nvidia-kernel-dkms module sure compiles here on
Wheezy/Sid amd64, and xorg doesn't crash when loading nvidia module. I
don't run the Debian kernel though (custom 2.6.38.6).


 Setting up nvidia-kernel-dkms (270.41.06-1) ...
 Loading new nvidia-270.41.06 DKMS files...
 First Installation: checking all kernels...
 Building only for 2.6.38-2-amd64
 Building initial module for 2.6.38-2-amd64
 Done.
 
 nvidia.ko:
 Running module version sanity check.
  - Original module
- No original module exists within this kernel
  - Installation
- Installing to /lib/modules/2.6.38-2-amd64/updates/dkms/
 
 depmod...
 Message from syslogd@feyerabend at May 15 11:35:38 ...
  kernel:[  177.226221] Oops:  [#1] SMP
 
 Message from syslogd@feyerabend at May 15 11:35:38 ...
  kernel:[  177.226223] last sysfs file: /sys/bus/acpi/drivers/NVIDIA ACPI 
 Video
 Driver/uevent
 
 Message from syslogd@feyerabend at May 15 11:35:38 ...
  kernel:[  177.226406] Stack:
 
 Message from syslogd@feyerabend at May 15 11:35:38 ...
  kernel:[  177.226416] Call Trace:
 
 Message from syslogd@feyerabend at May 15 11:35:38 ...
  kernel:[  177.226841] Code: 00 ba 00 00 00 00 be 3c 00 00 00 41 ff 55 20 48 
 89
 c3 b9 01 00 00 00 ba 00 00 00 00 be 15 00 00 00 4c 89 ef 41 ff 55 20 49 89 c6
 48 8b 05 f7 6a c6 00 48 89 45 10 8b 05 f5 6a c6 00 89 45 18 0f
 
[snip crash trace]

 May 15 11:35:38 feyerabend kernel: [  177.226982] ---[ end trace
 58be261eea03ecf3 ]---
 root@feyerabend:~#
 
 [end of message]
 

Do you have the logs from the upgrade right before the crash, what
packages got upgraded ?
In between your different trials you cleaned up thoroughly ? I am
thinking Nvidia .run here.

I see new nvidia packages entered Sid, one is nvidia-installer-cleanup
which may find some residual components of a previous install, it's
worth a shot if you are still stuck with this problem.


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Re: [some progress] Re: NVIDIA cards stopped working with recent testing updates

2011-05-16 Thread Russell L. Carter


On 05/16/2011 01:57 PM, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
 15/05/2011 20:52, Russell L. Carter wrote:


[...]


 
 Do you have the logs from the upgrade right before the crash, what
 packages got upgraded ?
 In between your different trials you cleaned up thoroughly ? I am
 thinking Nvidia .run here.

Not now... I reinstalled from scratch and after spending a few hours
learning the ins and outs of the udev bug (fix by rm -f /run, hmm) I have
a brand spanking new installation running nvidia-kernel-dkms successfully.

I didn't know about Nvidia .run, I will certainly look closer at this
possibility if I have problems in the future.

 I see new nvidia packages entered Sid, one is nvidia-installer-cleanup
 which may find some residual components of a previous install, it's
 worth a shot if you are still stuck with this problem.

Thanks for the info, I appreciate the help.

Regards,
Russell


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Re: NVIDIA cards stopped working with recent testing updates

2011-05-15 Thread tv.deb...@googlemail.com
14/05/2011 23:23, Russell L. Carter wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have a system with a fixed hardware config over the last two
 years that I have kept current with testing through that time.
 Yesterday's update/dist-upgrade/reboot results in a blank
 screen when launching X.  I swapped out the GTX285 for
 a GT520 and got identical results.  I tried a different
 PCI-E slot with the same results.  I switched to the
 nouveau drivers and get nearly the same behavior, except
 for a blinking cursor in the upper left corner of the
 screen.  In each case, I can't switch to text consoles
 via Ctl+Alt+F1...F6.  If I remove all the graphics drivers I get a
 successful reboot to text console prompt.
 
[snip]
 I'd be very happy to hear about any potential solutions to
 this situation.
 
 Thanks,
 Russell
 
 

Hi, can you provide a log of what exactly have been upgraded during the
update ? (/var/log/apt/history.log or /var/log/aptitude)

What gives:

dpkg -l |grep nvidia

update-alternatives --display libglx.so

and same for libGL.so ?

What gives:

modinfo nvidia | grep vermagic


Is nouveau blacklisted when you try the nvidia driver ? if not you
could try that.

Did the xorg.conf file changed at all, the Driver   nvidia stanza is
still there ?

Just some hints to get you started, I am on wheezy/Sid amd64 with nvidia
driver (GTS250), no problem as of today.


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Re: NVIDIA cards stopped working with recent testing updates

2011-05-15 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 14 May 2011 14:23:19 -0700, Russell L. Carter wrote:

 I have a system with a fixed hardware config over the last two years
 that I have kept current with testing through that time. Yesterday's
 update/dist-upgrade/reboot results in a blank screen when launching X. 

(...)

Just a quick note on nvidia (or ati) proprietary drivers: they need the 
corresponding kernel version package. 

If you installed the driver from Debian non-free, you'll need the 
matching versions of nvidia-glx-* and nvidia-common-*.

If you compiled the driver downloaded from nvidia site, you'll need the 
matching kernel headers package for your current kernel version.

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Re: NVIDIA cards stopped working with recent testing updates

2011-05-15 Thread tv.deb...@googlemail.com
15/05/2011 10:37, Camaleón wrote:
 On Sat, 14 May 2011 14:23:19 -0700, Russell L. Carter wrote:
 
 I have a system with a fixed hardware config over the last two years
 that I have kept current with testing through that time. Yesterday's
 update/dist-upgrade/reboot results in a blank screen when launching X. 
 
 (...)
 
 Just a quick note on nvidia (or ati) proprietary drivers: they need the 
 corresponding kernel version package. 
 
 If you installed the driver from Debian non-free, you'll need the 
 matching versions of nvidia-glx-* and nvidia-common-*.
 
 If you compiled the driver downloaded from nvidia site, you'll need the 
 matching kernel headers package for your current kernel version.
 
 Greetings,
 

Today dkms simplifies a lot the module management, just go with the
(nvidia|fglrx)-(kernel|modules)-dkms packages together with the
(fglrx|nvidia)-glx that goes with and it does the version magic for you,
even with custom kernels. That is, when everything goes according to plan...
As you said kernel-headers are required (dkms only recommends them).


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Re: NVIDIA cards stopped working with recent testing updates

2011-05-15 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 15 May 2011 08:37:43 + (UTC)
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Camaleón,

 Just a quick note on nvidia (or ati) proprietary drivers: they need
 the corresponding kernel version package. 

Whilst what you say is true, a lot of the agony of installing nVidia
drivers can be done away with by installing the nvidia-kernel-dkms
package and associated dependencies.

Doing that takes care of all the kernel dependant rebuilds of the
driver, meaning that the sys-admin (me) doesn't have to remember to do
it.

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Re: NVIDIA cards stopped working with recent testing updates

2011-05-15 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 15 May 2011 10:07:25 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:

 On Sun, 15 May 2011 08:37:43 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hello Camaleón,

(replying to your e-mail but also addressed to tv.debian's)
 
 Just a quick note on nvidia (or ati) proprietary drivers: they need the
 corresponding kernel version package.
 
 Whilst what you say is true, a lot of the agony of installing nVidia
 drivers can be done away with by installing the nvidia-kernel-dkms
 package and associated dependencies.
 
 Doing that takes care of all the kernel dependant rebuilds of the
 driver, meaning that the sys-admin (me) doesn't have to remember to do
 it.

:-)

Don't ask me why -maybe due to inexperience-, but the first time I had to 
deal with the closed nvidia driver in Debian I prefered¹ to not use 
dkms and manually pulled the required packages which was the method I 
was more used to. Hopefully, all went ok. 

And the same goes for my VirtuaBox client. Whenever I have to install or 
update the guest additions I prefer to manually update the kernel 
headers (which I hope they get automatically updated now that I've 
installed the kernel meta-package).

¹I didn't know how this thingy worked, it is something I never used in 
openSUSE, the distro I was using before coming to Debian.

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Re: NVIDIA cards stopped working with recent testing updates

2011-05-15 Thread tv.deb...@googlemail.com
15/05/2011 11:23, Camaleón wrote:
 On Sun, 15 May 2011 10:07:25 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
 
 On Sun, 15 May 2011 08:37:43 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hello Camaleón,
 
 (replying to your e-mail but also addressed to tv.debian's)
  
 Just a quick note on nvidia (or ati) proprietary drivers: they need the
 corresponding kernel version package.

 Whilst what you say is true, a lot of the agony of installing nVidia
 drivers can be done away with by installing the nvidia-kernel-dkms
 package and associated dependencies.

 Doing that takes care of all the kernel dependant rebuilds of the
 driver, meaning that the sys-admin (me) doesn't have to remember to do
 it.
 
 :-)
 
 Don't ask me why -maybe due to inexperience-, but the first time I had to 
 deal with the closed nvidia driver in Debian I prefered¹ to not use 
 dkms and manually pulled the required packages which was the method I 
 was more used to. Hopefully, all went ok. 
 
 And the same goes for my VirtuaBox client. Whenever I have to install or 
 update the guest additions I prefer to manually update the kernel 
 headers (which I hope they get automatically updated now that I've 
 installed the kernel meta-package).
 
 ¹I didn't know how this thingy worked, it is something I never used in 
 openSUSE, the distro I was using before coming to Debian.
 
 Greetings,
 

I was a great fan of module-assistant, but since dkms entered Debian I
don't miss m-a ! Give it a try, especially when using custom kernels it
saves a lot of time for more interesting things than compiling modules.
The only downside I see is philosophical, it makes using proprietary
modules far too easy, there used to be some kind of redemption in the
manual compilation suffering ;-)


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Re: NVIDIA cards stopped working with recent testing updates

2011-05-15 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 15 May 2011 09:23:45 + (UTC)
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

 Don't ask me why -maybe due to inexperience-, but the first time I had

Inexperience?  You?  Unfamiliar, perhaps.

 to deal with the closed nvidia driver in Debian I prefered¹ to not use 
 dkms and manually pulled the required packages which was the method
 I was more used to. Hopefully, all went ok.

I was glad when DKMS came along as it meant I didn't have to turn the X
server off to perform the necessary incantations to get the latest
nVidia driver installed and working.  This mainly because, at that time,
I didn't understand xorg, kernel modules and so forth well enough to get
myself out of trouble, if the worse happened.

I'm no expert now, but at least I have an idea of what to do.  Also,
I've now got a spare machine to get online with to search/ask for
assistance, if it's required.

 headers (which I hope they get automatically updated now that I've 
 installed the kernel meta-package).

If they don't, file a bug report.   :-)
 
 ¹I didn't know how this thingy worked, it is something I never used in 
 openSUSE, the distro I was using before coming to Debian.

No surprise there.  The D in DKMS stands for Debian, after all.   :-)

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Re: NVIDIA cards stopped working with recent testing updates

2011-05-15 Thread tv.deb...@googlemail.com
15/05/2011 12:10, Brad Rogers wrote:
 On Sun, 15 May 2011 09:23:45 + (UTC)
 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

[snip]

 ¹I didn't know how this thingy worked, it is something I never used in 
 openSUSE, the distro I was using before coming to Debian.
 
 No surprise there.  The D in DKMS stands for Debian, after all.   :-)
 

More like Dell who first developed it, it is supposed to really stands
for Dynamic. I may very well be wrong but I think it appears in Ubuntu
before it made it's way into Debian, a case of reverse upstream relation.


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Re: NVIDIA cards stopped working with recent testing updates

2011-05-15 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 15 May 2011 14:13:07 +0200
tv.deb...@googlemail.com tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:

Hello tv.deb...@googlemail.com,

 More like Dell who first developed it, it is supposed to really
 stands for Dynamic. I may very well be wrong but I think it appears

You're right;  I don't what made me think it was Debian.   :-/

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Re: NVIDIA cards stopped working with recent testing updates

2011-05-15 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Du, 15 mai 11, 11:57:49, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
  
  ¹I didn't know how this thingy worked, it is something I never used in 
  openSUSE, the distro I was using before coming to Debian.

openSUSE should now have DKMS as well[1]
 
 I was a great fan of module-assistant, but since dkms entered Debian I
 don't miss m-a ! Give it a try, especially when using custom kernels it
 saves a lot of time for more interesting things than compiling modules.
 The only downside I see is philosophical, it makes using proprietary
 modules far too easy, there used to be some kind of redemption in the
 manual compilation suffering ;-)

There are still things missing, like #583580 and the ability to build a 
deb to install on another machine, very useful if one has to install 
OOT[2] kernel modules on machines which shouldn't/can't have a compiler 
installed.

[1] at least according to Wikipedia 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_Kernel_Module_Support
[3] Out of Tree

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Re: NVIDIA cards stopped working with recent testing updates

2011-05-15 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 15 May 2011 19:57:33 +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:

 On Du, 15 mai 11, 11:57:49, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
  
  ¹I didn't know how this thingy worked, it is something I never used
  in openSUSE, the distro I was using before coming to Debian.
 
 openSUSE should now have DKMS as well[1]

Err, the above paragraph was mine ;-)

And yes, dkms is available under openSUSE OBS (their Build Service) but 
I've never heard of anyone using it (and I've been using openSUSE from 
2003 up to 2010) ;-)

(...)

 [1] at least according to Wikipedia
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_Kernel_Module_Support 

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Re: NVIDIA cards stopped working with recent testing updates

2011-05-15 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Russell L. Carter wrote:

Hi Curt,

On 05/14/2011 07:00 PM, Curt Howland wrote:

I've found that I have to re-install the binary Nvidia driver often
after updates, when the X system gets updated, due to changes to
simlinks.

If you're using the Nvidia binary driver, try reinstalling it.


I did that.  


snip

The current Nvidia binary driver is 270.41.06, you tried reinstalling 
that one?


Hugo


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Re: NVIDIA cards stopped working with recent testing updates

2011-05-15 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Du, 15 mai 11, 17:58:30, Camaleón wrote:
 On Sun, 15 May 2011 19:57:33 +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
 
  On Du, 15 mai 11, 11:57:49, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
   
   ¹I didn't know how this thingy worked, it is something I never used
   in openSUSE, the distro I was using before coming to Debian.
  
  openSUSE should now have DKMS as well[1]
 
 Err, the above paragraph was mine ;-)

Yes, I know Camaleón, I just snipped the relevant attribution line
(sorry tv.debian :)

Regards,
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[some progress] Re: NVIDIA cards stopped working with recent testing updates

2011-05-15 Thread Russell L. Carter

First, thanks much to the people on the other side of the globe who
see a new day before me.  I have dug deeper and can now get more specific
about the nvidia blank screen problem.  (For the record, I have a
fixed hardware config that I've tracked debian-testing on for two
years, and also tracking nvidia drivers.  I used to just download
them from nvidia.com but for the past few months I've been using
dkms, which has worked beautifully.)

Thanks to tv.debian for reminding me that nouveau might be
blacklisted.  It turns out that it was, in the file

/etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-installer-disable-nouveau.conf

I had the nouveau packages installed:

root@feyerabend:/etc/modprobe.d# dpkg -l | grep nouveau
ii  libdrm-nouveau1a2.4.24-2   Userspace
interface to nouveau-specific kernel DRM services -- runtime
ii  xserver-xorg-video-nouveau  1:0.0.16+git20110411+8378443-1 X.Org X
server -- Nouveau display driver (experimental)

so when I rm'd the blacklist file the gdm3 greeter popped up and X is
up and running.  This proves the hardware is working (or at least not
completely broken).

I don't have the ability to make a choice between nvidia vs. nouveau, I
make a living with high performance numerical algorithms, including GPU
programming, so my only choice is between Linux and Windows.  Ok?
I would be a very unhappy man on Windows, so I'll forge on.

So next I install the current nvidia dkms packages.  I've removed
everything that's normal output:

root@feyerabend:~# apt-get autoremove --purge xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
libdrm-nouveau1a

since the nouveau module is still loaded I reboot, and return to a
console prompt with no X.  Next I'll install the nvidia packages.
Note that the modprobe blows up.  After the apt-get install output
I'll append the traceback the showed up in /var/log/messages.

(The recent memcpy/memmove issue is orthogonal to kernel modules,
right?)

root@feyerabend:~# apt-get install nvidia-kernel-dkms nvidia-glx
nvidia-kernel-270.41.06 nvidia-settings
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Note, selecting 'nvidia-kernel-dkms' instead of 'nvidia-kernel-270.41.06'
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-dkms nvidia-settings
0 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B/12.8 MB of archives.
After this operation, 41.2 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Selecting previously deselected package nvidia-kernel-dkms.
(Reading database ... 204047 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking nvidia-kernel-dkms (from 
.../nvidia-kernel-dkms_270.41.06-1_amd64.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package nvidia-glx.
Unpacking nvidia-glx (from .../nvidia-glx_270.41.06-1_amd64.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package nvidia-settings.
Unpacking nvidia-settings (from .../nvidia-settings_195.36.24-1_amd64.deb) ...
Processing triggers for man-db ...
Processing triggers for menu ...
Setting up nvidia-kernel-dkms (270.41.06-1) ...
Loading new nvidia-270.41.06 DKMS files...
First Installation: checking all kernels...
Building only for 2.6.38-2-amd64
Building initial module for 2.6.38-2-amd64
Done.

nvidia.ko:
Running module version sanity check.
 - Original module
   - No original module exists within this kernel
 - Installation
   - Installing to /lib/modules/2.6.38-2-amd64/updates/dkms/

depmod...
Message from syslogd@feyerabend at May 15 11:35:38 ...
 kernel:[  177.226221] Oops:  [#1] SMP

Message from syslogd@feyerabend at May 15 11:35:38 ...
 kernel:[  177.226223] last sysfs file: /sys/bus/acpi/drivers/NVIDIA ACPI Video
Driver/uevent

Message from syslogd@feyerabend at May 15 11:35:38 ...
 kernel:[  177.226406] Stack:

Message from syslogd@feyerabend at May 15 11:35:38 ...
 kernel:[  177.226416] Call Trace:

Message from syslogd@feyerabend at May 15 11:35:38 ...
 kernel:[  177.226841] Code: 00 ba 00 00 00 00 be 3c 00 00 00 41 ff 55 20 48 89
c3 b9 01 00 00 00 ba 00 00 00 00 be 15 00 00 00 4c 89 ef 41 ff 55 20 49 89 c6
48 8b 05 f7 6a c6 00 48 89 45 10 8b 05 f5 6a c6 00 89 45 18 0f

Message from syslogd@feyerabend at May 15 11:35:38 ...
 kernel:[  177.226980] CR2: a129b076

Message from syslogd@feyerabend at May 15 11:35:38 ...
 kernel:[  177.226221] Oops:  [#1] SMP

Message from syslogd@feyerabend at May 15 11:35:38 ...
 kernel:[  177.226223] last sysfs file: /sys/bus/acpi/drivers/NVIDIA ACPI Video
Driver/uevent

Message from syslogd@feyerabend at May 15 11:35:38 ...
 kernel:[  177.226406] Stack:

Message from syslogd@feyerabend at May 15 11:35:38 ...
 kernel:[  177.226416] Call Trace:

Message from syslogd@feyerabend at May 15 11:35:38 ...
 kernel:[  177.226841] Code: 00 ba 00 00 00 00 be 3c 00 00 00 41 ff 55 20 48 89
c3 b9 01 00 00 00 ba 00 00 00 00 be 15 00 00 00 4c 89 ef 41 ff 55 20 49 89 c6
48 8b 05 f7 6a c6 00 48 89 45 10 8b 05 f5 6a c6 00 89 45 18 0f

Message from syslogd@feyerabend at May 15 11:35:38 ...
 

Re: [some progress] Re: NVIDIA cards stopped working with recent testing updates

2011-05-15 Thread Russell L. Carter
I left out the step of replacing Driver=nouveau with Driver=nvidia
in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, sorry.

On 05/15/2011 11:52 AM, Russell L. Carter wrote:
 
 First, thanks much to the people on the other side of the globe who
 see a new day before me.  I have dug deeper and can now get more specific
 about the nvidia blank screen problem.  (For the record, I have a
 fixed hardware config that I've tracked debian-testing on for two
 years, and also tracking nvidia drivers.  I used to just download
 them from nvidia.com but for the past few months I've been using
 dkms, which has worked beautifully.)
 
 Thanks to tv.debian for reminding me that nouveau might be
 blacklisted.  It turns out that it was, in the file
 
 /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-installer-disable-nouveau.conf
 
 I had the nouveau packages installed:
 
 root@feyerabend:/etc/modprobe.d# dpkg -l | grep nouveau
 ii  libdrm-nouveau1a2.4.24-2   
 Userspace
 interface to nouveau-specific kernel DRM services -- runtime
 ii  xserver-xorg-video-nouveau  1:0.0.16+git20110411+8378443-1 X.Org X
 server -- Nouveau display driver (experimental)
 
 so when I rm'd the blacklist file the gdm3 greeter popped up and X is
 up and running.  This proves the hardware is working (or at least not
 completely broken).
 
 I don't have the ability to make a choice between nvidia vs. nouveau, I
 make a living with high performance numerical algorithms, including GPU
 programming, so my only choice is between Linux and Windows.  Ok?
 I would be a very unhappy man on Windows, so I'll forge on.
 
 So next I install the current nvidia dkms packages.  I've removed
 everything that's normal output:
 
 root@feyerabend:~# apt-get autoremove --purge xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
 libdrm-nouveau1a
 
 since the nouveau module is still loaded I reboot, and return to a
 console prompt with no X.  Next I'll install the nvidia packages.
 Note that the modprobe blows up.  After the apt-get install output
 I'll append the traceback the showed up in /var/log/messages.
 
 (The recent memcpy/memmove issue is orthogonal to kernel modules,
 right?)
 
 root@feyerabend:~# apt-get install nvidia-kernel-dkms nvidia-glx
 nvidia-kernel-270.41.06 nvidia-settings
 Reading package lists... Done
 Building dependency tree
 Reading state information... Done
 Note, selecting 'nvidia-kernel-dkms' instead of 'nvidia-kernel-270.41.06'
 The following NEW packages will be installed:
   nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-dkms nvidia-settings
 0 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
 Need to get 0 B/12.8 MB of archives.
 After this operation, 41.2 MB of additional disk space will be used.
 Selecting previously deselected package nvidia-kernel-dkms.
 (Reading database ... 204047 files and directories currently installed.)
 Unpacking nvidia-kernel-dkms (from 
 .../nvidia-kernel-dkms_270.41.06-1_amd64.deb) ...
 Selecting previously deselected package nvidia-glx.
 Unpacking nvidia-glx (from .../nvidia-glx_270.41.06-1_amd64.deb) ...
 Selecting previously deselected package nvidia-settings.
 Unpacking nvidia-settings (from .../nvidia-settings_195.36.24-1_amd64.deb) ...
 Processing triggers for man-db ...
 Processing triggers for menu ...
 Setting up nvidia-kernel-dkms (270.41.06-1) ...
 Loading new nvidia-270.41.06 DKMS files...
 First Installation: checking all kernels...
 Building only for 2.6.38-2-amd64
 Building initial module for 2.6.38-2-amd64
 Done.
 
 nvidia.ko:
 Running module version sanity check.
  - Original module
- No original module exists within this kernel
  - Installation
- Installing to /lib/modules/2.6.38-2-amd64/updates/dkms/
 
 depmod...
 Message from syslogd@feyerabend at May 15 11:35:38 ...
  kernel:[  177.226221] Oops:  [#1] SMP
 
 Message from syslogd@feyerabend at May 15 11:35:38 ...
  kernel:[  177.226223] last sysfs file: /sys/bus/acpi/drivers/NVIDIA ACPI 
 Video
 Driver/uevent
 
 Message from syslogd@feyerabend at May 15 11:35:38 ...
  kernel:[  177.226406] Stack:
 
 Message from syslogd@feyerabend at May 15 11:35:38 ...
  kernel:[  177.226416] Call Trace:
 
 Message from syslogd@feyerabend at May 15 11:35:38 ...
  kernel:[  177.226841] Code: 00 ba 00 00 00 00 be 3c 00 00 00 41 ff 55 20 48 
 89
 c3 b9 01 00 00 00 ba 00 00 00 00 be 15 00 00 00 4c 89 ef 41 ff 55 20 49 89 c6
 48 8b 05 f7 6a c6 00 48 89 45 10 8b 05 f5 6a c6 00 89 45 18 0f
 
 Message from syslogd@feyerabend at May 15 11:35:38 ...
  kernel:[  177.226980] CR2: a129b076
 
 Message from syslogd@feyerabend at May 15 11:35:38 ...
  kernel:[  177.226221] Oops:  [#1] SMP
 
 Message from syslogd@feyerabend at May 15 11:35:38 ...
  kernel:[  177.226223] last sysfs file: /sys/bus/acpi/drivers/NVIDIA ACPI 
 Video
 Driver/uevent
 
 Message from syslogd@feyerabend at May 15 11:35:38 ...
  kernel:[  177.226406] Stack:
 
 Message from syslogd@feyerabend at May 15 11:35:38 ...
  kernel:[  177.226416] Call Trace:
 
 Message from syslogd@feyerabend at May 15 11:35:38 ...
  

Re: [some progress] Re: NVIDIA cards stopped working with recent testing updates

2011-05-15 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Du, 15 mai 11, 11:56:18, Russell L. Carter wrote:
 I left out the step of replacing Driver=nouveau with Driver=nvidia
 in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, sorry.

Does this mean that everything is ok now?

Regards,
Andrei
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Re: [some progress] Re: NVIDIA cards stopped working with recent testing updates

2011-05-15 Thread Russell L. Carter


On 05/15/2011 12:17 PM, Andrei Popescu wrote:
 On Du, 15 mai 11, 11:56:18, Russell L. Carter wrote:
 I left out the step of replacing Driver=nouveau with Driver=nvidia
 in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, sorry.
 
 Does this mean that everything is ok now?

Ah, sorry, no, I left out the step of switching from
nouveau to nvidia in xorg.conf from my description, I did
do it correctly when I switched.  (I was hoping not to
derail the focus, but I guess I did anyway).

So current status is the current testing nvidia-kernel-dkms
breaks at the depmod step.

Thanks,
Russell

 
 Regards,
 Andrei


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Re: NVIDIA cards stopped working with recent testing updates

2011-05-15 Thread David Baron
I had this happen with recent xorg update from Sid.

Log said that (proprietary) Nvidia driver was no longer compatable with the 
new Xorg version. So I ran its installer (version 260) with update which 
downloaded and installed version 270 (but did not keep that installer!) and 
this works fine.

Since 270 is the current version on Debian, how would I go from Nvidia's 
installer to Debian's version, preferrably using the DKMS?

The proprietary version works first time, every time, but still (after all 
this time) leaves the text mode of the terminal, i.e. from control/alt/F1, 
messed up.


NVIDIA cards stopped working with recent testing updates

2011-05-14 Thread Russell L. Carter
Hi,

I have a system with a fixed hardware config over the last two
years that I have kept current with testing through that time.
Yesterday's update/dist-upgrade/reboot results in a blank
screen when launching X.  I swapped out the GTX285 for
a GT520 and got identical results.  I tried a different
PCI-E slot with the same results.  I switched to the
nouveau drivers and get nearly the same behavior, except
for a blinking cursor in the upper left corner of the
screen.  In each case, I can't switch to text consoles
via Ctl+Alt+F1...F6.  If I remove all the graphics drivers I get a
successful reboot to text console prompt.

I also downloaded an older known working nvidia distribution
from nvidia and built and installed that, with identical
results to the current dkms package.  All of these diagnostics
were performed with the current 2.6.38-2-amd64 kernel.  I
then repeated the nvidia driver installation with a stable
2.6.32-5-amd64 kernel and got the same results (GTSR).

I uninstalled all my kvm adn verde modules and GTSR.  I swapped
monitors and GTSR.  Took a shower and GTSR.

I'd be very happy to hear about any potential solutions to
this situation.

Thanks,
Russell


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Re: NVIDIA cards stopped working with recent testing updates

2011-05-14 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, 14 May 2011 17:23:19 -0400 (EDT), Russell L. Carter wrote:
 
 I have a system with a fixed hardware config over the last two
 years that I have kept current with testing through that time.
 Yesterday's update/dist-upgrade/reboot results in a blank
 screen when launching X.
 ...

You aren't using interlaced video modes, are you?  Interlaced
video modes don't seem to work at all with any KMS-based
driver.  That's why I use nv.  (The proprietary nvidia driver
for my chipset no longer works with recent X servers.)
I had to download the source for nv and compile it myself, though,
since nv has been removed from the distribution and the old
binary version doesn't work with the new X server.

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Re: NVIDIA cards stopped working with recent testing updates

2011-05-14 Thread Russell L. Carter


On 05/14/2011 04:56 PM, Stephen Powell wrote:
 On Sat, 14 May 2011 17:23:19 -0400 (EDT), Russell L. Carter wrote:

 I have a system with a fixed hardware config over the last two
 years that I have kept current with testing through that time.
 Yesterday's update/dist-upgrade/reboot results in a blank
 screen when launching X.
 ...
 
 You aren't using interlaced video modes, are you?  Interlaced
 video modes don't seem to work at all with any KMS-based
 driver.  That's why I use nv.  (The proprietary nvidia driver
 for my chipset no longer works with recent X servers.)
 I had to download the source for nv and compile it myself, though,
 since nv has been removed from the distribution and the old
 binary version doesn't work with the new X server.
 

I don't believe so, I run the GTX285 normally at 1920x1200 on a benq
LCD.  I just bought the GT520 today, it's a just released GPU, so
nothing legacy here.

Per the apt-listchanges notes I tried

$ echo /usr/lib/libc/memcpy-preload.so  /etc/ld.so.preload

and reboot but no joy.

Thanks,
Russell


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Re: NVIDIA cards stopped working with recent testing updates

2011-05-14 Thread Curt Howland
I've found that I have to re-install the binary Nvidia driver often
after updates, when the X system gets updated, due to changes to
simlinks.

If you're using the Nvidia binary driver, try reinstalling it.

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Re: NVIDIA cards stopped working with recent testing updates

2011-05-14 Thread Russell L. Carter
Hi Curt,

On 05/14/2011 07:00 PM, Curt Howland wrote:
 I've found that I have to re-install the binary Nvidia driver often
 after updates, when the X system gets updated, due to changes to
 simlinks.
 
 If you're using the Nvidia binary driver, try reinstalling it.

I did that.  I reinstalled (apt-get install) after deinstalling
(apt-get autoremove --purge) for each step that I listed in my
original message.  And then, for good measure, I downloaded
an older (1 yo) nvidia release from their website and built
it myself and then installed that.

And then I reinstalled a 2.6.32-5 kernel and repeated all the
install/uninstall steps.

This took a bit of time...

Thanks,
Russell



 
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