Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 14:53:19 -0500, Tom H wrote: There was the wpasupplicant-udeb bug that was closed mid-2011 and that I posted earlier in the thread - and it must've been tracked by debian-boot in some way. So from debian-boot's perspective, they've made the change and noted that it's been made through http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/WheezyGoals . Not necessarily the best way for us (users) to find out but I'm glad that the feature's available and hope that there'll be some more widespread, official announcement at some point - even if it's only through a first draft of the Wheezy Release Notes - as a matter of procedure. Okay, I surrender... I've opened a bug report. Happy now? ;-) http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=659648 Surrendered to what/who?! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=sxg1-f_ikkfl6bowmrz2tlndoyj9stmip2kq8h7dnn...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points
On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 07:08:24 -0500, Tom H wrote: On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 14:53:19 -0500, Tom H wrote: There was the wpasupplicant-udeb bug that was closed mid-2011 and that I posted earlier in the thread - and it must've been tracked by debian-boot in some way. So from debian-boot's perspective, they've made the change and noted that it's been made through http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/WheezyGoals . Not necessarily the best way for us (users) to find out but I'm glad that the feature's available and hope that there'll be some more widespread, official announcement at some point - even if it's only through a first draft of the Wheezy Release Notes - as a matter of procedure. Okay, I surrender... I've opened a bug report. Happy now? ;-) http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=659648 Surrendered to what/who?! Surrender to a fact: the new feature needs to be documented. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jhbe9t$dgu$9...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:09:43 -0500, Tom H wrote: On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: I read about the GRUB2 transition from Debian Planet and I'm sure sure it was aired in many other places, too. Yes, but it wasn't announced publicly. Debian Planet does not count as something public? :-) It's not an official announcement just because it's on someone's blog! And who said nothing about official? AFAIK, only Debian News is the official source but there are other sites where to look to get the latest developments. I think that I mentioned official in a previous email. I've just checked grub2 site:lists.debian.org/debian-project too; nada. And grub2 was a big, cross-distribution change so it wasn't Debian-specific, Debian -installer specific and therefore was widely discussed/attacked /praised... Well, GRUB is/was well documented/presented at Debian wiki, as well as the other available bootloaders. Yes. But we're talking of announcements here, not documentation. Well, Release Notes is documentation and that's where this should be advertized, IMO. In fact, it is there but information is outdated. Release notes are definitely documentation (and there still isn't an alpha/beta version yet) but it isn't what I'd call an announcement. I have found the following two d-i-related pages the second of which mentions WPA: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/ReleaseAnnounce http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/WheezyGoals -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=Sy7PtPChNCw1J20PpPMpDQ1=qmods0halhknbr8wkt...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points
On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:57:16 -0500, Tom H wrote: On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:09:43 -0500, Tom H wrote: On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: I read about the GRUB2 transition from Debian Planet and I'm sure sure it was aired in many other places, too. Yes, but it wasn't announced publicly. Debian Planet does not count as something public? :-) It's not an official announcement just because it's on someone's blog! And who said nothing about official? AFAIK, only Debian News is the official source but there are other sites where to look to get the latest developments. I think that I mentioned official in a previous email. Ah, you. Okay, I thought you were referring to one of my posts. I've just checked grub2 site:lists.debian.org/debian-project too; nada. And grub2 was a big, cross-distribution change so it wasn't Debian-specific, Debian -installer specific and therefore was widely discussed/attacked /praised... Well, GRUB is/was well documented/presented at Debian wiki, as well as the other available bootloaders. Yes. But we're talking of announcements here, not documentation. Well, Release Notes is documentation and that's where this should be advertized, IMO. In fact, it is there but information is outdated. Release notes are definitely documentation (and there still isn't an alpha/beta version yet) but it isn't what I'd call an announcement. Should the Release Notes are up-to-date there would have not need for any announcement on the matter. I have found the following two d-i-related pages the second of which mentions WPA: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/ReleaseAnnounce http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/WheezyGoals Yes, the goal is there but how about its current status? The Complete section seems to be empty. The last notice I had for the new feature was that someone started to make some packages for it as mentioned in debian-boot: http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2011/01/msg01044.html But this was done in his personal tree, and thus not widely available. Beyond that, I lose any track for this feature and given it was not advertized in testing Relase Notes nor announced elsewhere, I thought this was still an ongoing work, that is, still not an option. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jh8vl1$hiu$4...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: I have found the following two d-i-related pages the second of which mentions WPA: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/ReleaseAnnounce http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/WheezyGoals Yes, the goal is there but how about its current status? The Complete section seems to be empty. The last notice I had for the new feature was that someone started to make some packages for it as mentioned in debian-boot: http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2011/01/msg01044.html But this was done in his personal tree, and thus not widely available. Beyond that, I lose any track for this feature and given it was not advertized in testing Relase Notes nor announced elsewhere, I thought this was still an ongoing work, that is, still not an option. There was the wpasupplicant-udeb bug that was closed mid-2011 and that I posted earlier in the thread - and it must've been tracked by debian-boot in some way. So from debian-boot's perspective, they've made the change and noted that it's been made through http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/WheezyGoals . Not necessarily the best way for us (users) to find out but I'm glad that the feature's available and hope that there'll be some more widespread, official announcement at some point - even if it's only through a first draft of the Wheezy Release Notes - as a matter of procedure. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=szohoa20egy6oj-zgemnn593uw9uk9mzibpx27gkmc...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points
On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 14:53:19 -0500, Tom H wrote: On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: (...) The last notice I had for the new feature was that someone started to make some packages for it as mentioned in debian-boot: http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2011/01/msg01044.html But this was done in his personal tree, and thus not widely available. Beyond that, I lose any track for this feature and given it was not advertized in testing Relase Notes nor announced elsewhere, I thought this was still an ongoing work, that is, still not an option. There was the wpasupplicant-udeb bug that was closed mid-2011 and that I posted earlier in the thread - and it must've been tracked by debian-boot in some way. So from debian-boot's perspective, they've made the change and noted that it's been made through http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/WheezyGoals . Not necessarily the best way for us (users) to find out but I'm glad that the feature's available and hope that there'll be some more widespread, official announcement at some point - even if it's only through a first draft of the Wheezy Release Notes - as a matter of procedure. Okay, I surrender... I've opened a bug report. Happy now? ;-) http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=659648 Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jh972k$hiu$9...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 05:24:18 -0500, Tom H wrote: On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 08:27:19 -0500, Tom H wrote: The announcement of the availability of WPA in d-i'll probably be done when Wheezy's released, Publishing a new feature at the Release Notes is too late for people can test and debug that feature properly, don't you think? No idea, except to say that the devs wouldn't willingly ship something that's untested or under-tested. Agree. That's why testing before releasing is a must. in the same way that there wasn't a we're now defaulting to grub2 in testing announcement when Squeeze was testing; I've just googled grub2 site:lists.debian.org/debian-announce and grub2 site:lists.debian.org/debian-news). I read about the GRUB2 transition from Debian Planet and I'm sure sure it was aired in many other places, too. Yes, but it wasn't announced publicly. Debian Planet does not count as something public? :-) It's not an official announcement just because it's on someone's blog! I've just checked grub2 site:lists.debian.org/debian-project too; nada. And grub2 was a big, cross-distribution change so it wasn't Debian-specific, Debian -installer specific and therefore was widely discussed/attacked /praised... Well, GRUB is/was well documented/presented at Debian wiki, as well as the other available bootloaders. Yes. But we're talking of announcements here, not documentation. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=Syt2hSCEL2L0cGw4vi0AQs7oR7cHpY+cKv2XFa7bUJb=a...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points
On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:09:43 -0500, Tom H wrote: On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: (...) I read about the GRUB2 transition from Debian Planet and I'm sure sure it was aired in many other places, too. Yes, but it wasn't announced publicly. Debian Planet does not count as something public? :-) It's not an official announcement just because it's on someone's blog! And who said nothing about official? AFAIK, only Debian News is the official source but there are other sites where to look to get the latest developments. I've just checked grub2 site:lists.debian.org/debian-project too; nada. And grub2 was a big, cross-distribution change so it wasn't Debian-specific, Debian -installer specific and therefore was widely discussed/attacked /praised... Well, GRUB is/was well documented/presented at Debian wiki, as well as the other available bootloaders. Yes. But we're talking of announcements here, not documentation. Well, Release Notes is documentation and that's where this should be advertized, IMO. In fact, it is there but information is outdated. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jh3ohi$777$3...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points
On 03/02/12 18:19, Jan Moskyto Matejka wrote: Is this the long-time-final state, or does anybody plan to add support of more encryption methods? The issue is/was the toolchain required for WPA support, and of course person-power to implement anything. There was a long flameware about having network-manager in d-i some months ago (which would be one solution to the problem) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f3244eb.3030...@debian.org
Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points
On 07/02/12 14:45, Camaleón wrote: Publishing a new feature at the Release Notes is too late for people can test and debug that feature properly, don't you think? ;-( Perhaps the developers have enough testers and don't need your input? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f324556.70...@debian.org
Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points
I use an amd k8 and the last two wheezy snapshots I downloaded couldn't install the needed kernel. I got media change message and the drive door wouldn't open and the disk the system was wanting was already in the drive anyway. I'm sure the developers don't need any of this input either. This was using the speakup path so all that was on the command line at boot was s to start speech. Access to the menu with the numbered choices is blocked unless expert is used but using expert and s on command line doesn't work. So I can't save debug logs to send in either. On Wed, 8 Feb 2012, Jon Dowland wrote: On 07/02/12 14:45, Camale?n wrote: Publishing a new feature at the Release Notes is too late for people can test and debug that feature properly, don't you think? ;-( Perhaps the developers have enough testers and don't need your input? Jude jdashiel-at-shellworld-dot-net http://www.shellworld.net/~jdashiel/nj.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.bsf.2.01.1202080452200.92...@freire1.furyyjbeyq.arg
Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points
I forgot to mention, I used aria2c to do the downloads too.On Wed, 8 Feb 2012, Jude DaShiell wrote: I use an amd k8 and the last two wheezy snapshots I downloaded couldn't install the needed kernel. I got media change message and the drive door wouldn't open and the disk the system was wanting was already in the drive anyway. I'm sure the developers don't need any of this input either. This was using the speakup path so all that was on the command line at boot was s to start speech. Access to the menu with the numbered choices is blocked unless expert is used but using expert and s on command line doesn't work. So I can't save debug logs to send in either. On Wed, 8 Feb 2012, Jon Dowland wrote: On 07/02/12 14:45, Camale?n wrote: Publishing a new feature at the Release Notes is too late for people can test and debug that feature properly, don't you think? ;-( Perhaps the developers have enough testers and don't need your input? Jude jdashiel-at-shellworld-dot-net http://www.shellworld.net/~jdashiel/nj.html Jude jdashiel-at-shellworld-dot-net http://www.shellworld.net/~jdashiel/nj.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.bsf.2.01.1202080459250.92...@freire1.furyyjbeyq.arg
Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 08:27:19 -0500, Tom H wrote: On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 7:00 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know where these features use to be advertized, I follow debian- news, debian-announce, debian planet and often read debian developers blogs and this went completely unnoticed to me. I think this is something most users are awaiting for and would be glad to try, check and report over... unless they're unaware about the possibility There probably isn't a debian-testing-announce because, AFAIK, testing was never meant to be a widely-used release. Sure, but there is a project and news mailing list for that precisely purpose: to allow users seeing what's going on inside the project and Debian next steps or proposed directions. For instance, it was recently published there that wheezy will get kernel 3.2, what's the current status of gnome3 in wheezy, etc... very useful stuff. The announcement of the availability of WPA in d-i'll probably be done when Wheezy's released, Publishing a new feature at the Release Notes is too late for people can test and debug that feature properly, don't you think? No idea, except to say that the devs wouldn't willingly ship something that's untested or under-tested. in the same way that there wasn't a we're now defaulting to grub2 in testing announcement when Squeeze was testing; I've just googled grub2 site:lists.debian.org/debian-announce and grub2 site:lists.debian.org/debian-news). I read about the GRUB2 transition from Debian Planet and I'm sure sure it was aired in many other places, too. Yes, but it wasn't announced publicly. It was a more visible change than the addition of wpasupplicant-udeb to d-i and was widely discussed on this list pre-release because so many of us run testing and unstable (and Ubuntu). I've just checked grub2 site:lists.debian.org/debian-project too; nada. And grub2 was a big, cross-distribution change so it wasn't Debian-specific, Debian-installer specific and therefore was widely discussed/attacked/praised... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=Sy=PeW+E_yF8hJnBh1Mf-CHZgBXcYQ=6ycvh5g84wv...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points
On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 09:50:14 +, Jon Dowland wrote: On 07/02/12 14:45, Camaleón wrote: Publishing a new feature at the Release Notes is too late for people can test and debug that feature properly, don't you think? ;-( Perhaps the developers have enough testers and don't need your input? From my experience over the years as bug reporter, I'd say that's rather impossible. It goes against the most basics of software developing. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jgu2fn$6gf$7...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points
On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 05:24:18 -0500, Tom H wrote: On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 08:27:19 -0500, Tom H wrote: (...) The announcement of the availability of WPA in d-i'll probably be done when Wheezy's released, Publishing a new feature at the Release Notes is too late for people can test and debug that feature properly, don't you think? No idea, except to say that the devs wouldn't willingly ship something that's untested or under-tested. Agree. That's why testing before releasing is a must. in the same way that there wasn't a we're now defaulting to grub2 in testing announcement when Squeeze was testing; I've just googled grub2 site:lists.debian.org/debian-announce and grub2 site:lists.debian.org/debian-news). I read about the GRUB2 transition from Debian Planet and I'm sure sure it was aired in many other places, too. Yes, but it wasn't announced publicly. Debian Planet does not count as something public? :-) It was a more visible change than the addition of wpasupplicant-udeb to d-i and was widely discussed on this list pre-release because so many of us run testing and unstable (and Ubuntu). Yup, but GRUB2 coexisted with GRUB legacy, I mean, it didn't change substantially the current scenario for users, who were able to choose between the two options. I've just checked grub2 site:lists.debian.org/debian-project too; nada. And grub2 was a big, cross-distribution change so it wasn't Debian-specific, Debian -installer specific and therefore was widely discussed/attacked /praised... Well, GRUB is/was well documented/presented at Debian wiki, as well as the other available bootloaders. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jgu3vg$6gf$8...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 10:28:45 -0500, Tom H wrote: On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 01:18:38 +, Brian wrote: On Sun 05 Feb 2012 at 21:09:26 +, Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 20:12:26 +, Brian wrote: Your proposal fits the remit of debian-...@lists.debian.org. Agree. But first we should know if it's a supported feature and that's why I suggested asking first to devels at debian-boot mailing list. This is where we came in! No need to ask; WPA/WPA2 is known to be available in a Wheezy install. Booting a debian-testing netinst iso should dispel all doubts. I wonder how did you reach that conclusion given that it has not been published anyhwere... black magic, mind reading? (just kidding) :-) http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/wpasupplicant-udeb http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/i386/daily/build_netboot.log http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/amd64/daily/build_netboot.log That's not the kind of sources users tend to read (i.e., Debian wiki, Debian News, debian-devel, debian-boot, Debian planet, Debian blogs...). I dont' read these either. I just knew that there was a wpasupplicant-udeb (I'm not sure from where) and I pointed to its existence as a package as well as to the fact that it's being included in the installer. In looking at the debian-boot archives, I've found two relevant bugs: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=327309 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=610931 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=sx8k_mo5jcveht+wp1jzu2z-clwagste_ah4+gpk3o...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points
On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 06:26:27 -0500, Tom H wrote: On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 10:28:45 -0500, Tom H wrote: On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 01:18:38 +, Brian wrote: (...) No need to ask; WPA/WPA2 is known to be available in a Wheezy install. Booting a debian-testing netinst iso should dispel all doubts. I wonder how did you reach that conclusion given that it has not been published anyhwere... black magic, mind reading? (just kidding) :-) http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/wpasupplicant-udeb http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/i386/daily/build_netboot.log http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/amd64/daily/build_netboot.log That's not the kind of sources users tend to read (i.e., Debian wiki, Debian News, debian-devel, debian-boot, Debian planet, Debian blogs...). I dont' read these either. I just knew that there was a wpasupplicant-udeb (I'm not sure from where) and I pointed to its existence as a package as well as to the fact that it's being included in the installer. That addition was new to me. At the time I installed wheezy it was not available. In looking at the debian-boot archives, I've found two relevant bugs: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=327309 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=610931 Ah, those bugs explain why I couldn't install wheezy using WPA: the code was included in late July 2011. Afterwards, when I did another wheezy installation I still thought nothing had changed in this regard so I directly plugged the network cable. I don't know where these features use to be advertized, I follow debian- news, debian-announce, debian planet and often read debian developers blogs and this went completely unnoticed to me. I think this is something most users are awaiting for and would be glad to try, check and report over... unless they're unaware about the possibility :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jgr3ou$bh0$3...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 7:00 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 06:26:27 -0500, Tom H wrote: On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 10:28:45 -0500, Tom H wrote: On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 01:18:38 +, Brian wrote: No need to ask; WPA/WPA2 is known to be available in a Wheezy install. Booting a debian-testing netinst iso should dispel all doubts. I wonder how did you reach that conclusion given that it has not been published anyhwere... black magic, mind reading? (just kidding) :-) http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/wpasupplicant-udeb http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/i386/daily/build_netboot.log http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/amd64/daily/build_netboot.log That's not the kind of sources users tend to read (i.e., Debian wiki, Debian News, debian-devel, debian-boot, Debian planet, Debian blogs...). I dont' read these either. I just knew that there was a wpasupplicant-udeb (I'm not sure from where) and I pointed to its existence as a package as well as to the fact that it's being included in the installer. I don't know where these features use to be advertized, I follow debian- news, debian-announce, debian planet and often read debian developers blogs and this went completely unnoticed to me. I think this is something most users are awaiting for and would be glad to try, check and report over... unless they're unaware about the possibility :-) There probably isn't a debian-testing-announce because, AFAIK, testing was never meant to be a widely-used release. The announcement of the availability of WPA in d-i'll probably be done when Wheezy's released, in the same way that there wasn't a we're now defaulting to grub2 in testing announcement when Squeeze was testing; I've just googled grub2 site:lists.debian.org/debian-announce and grub2 site:lists.debian.org/debian-news). It'd be nice to have a generic testing announce-list but I suspect that the developers are busy enough as it is. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=SzAiGFrXP4=wWXc3e0Ltabu2HXGnga2JG32tdj=zyu...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points
On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 08:27:19 -0500, Tom H wrote: On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 7:00 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: (...) I don't know where these features use to be advertized, I follow debian- news, debian-announce, debian planet and often read debian developers blogs and this went completely unnoticed to me. I think this is something most users are awaiting for and would be glad to try, check and report over... unless they're unaware about the possibility :-) There probably isn't a debian-testing-announce because, AFAIK, testing was never meant to be a widely-used release. Sure, but there is a project and news mailing list for that precisely purpose: to allow users seeing what's going on inside the project and Debian next steps or proposed directions. *** Discussions about non-technical issues in the project Discussion about non-technical topics related to the Debian Project. *** *** Debian News, weekly and otherwise General news about the distribution and the project. The current events and news about Debian are summarized in the Debian Weekly News, a newsletter regularly posted on this list. *** For instance, it was recently published there that wheezy will get kernel 3.2, what's the current status of gnome3 in wheezy, etc... very useful stuff. The announcement of the availability of WPA in d-i'll probably be done when Wheezy's released, Publishing a new feature at the Release Notes is too late for people can test and debug that feature properly, don't you think? ;-( in the same way that there wasn't a we're now defaulting to grub2 in testing announcement when Squeeze was testing; I've just googled grub2 site:lists.debian.org/debian-announce and grub2 site:lists.debian.org/debian-news). I read about the GRUB2 transition from Debian Planet and I'm sure sure it was aired in many other places, too. It'd be nice to have a generic testing announce-list but I suspect that the developers are busy enough as it is. There is testing list but I'm afraid is mostly package-centric: *** Testing packages' upgrade announcements Changes to the testing distribution are announced here. This includes various bugfixes. *** Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jgrde5$bh0$5...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points
On Mon 06 Feb 2012 at 14:31:21 +, Camaleón wrote: On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 01:18:38 +, Brian wrote: No need to ask; WPA/WPA2 is known to be available in a Wheezy install. Booting a debian-testing netinst iso should dispel all doubts. I wonder how did you reach that conclusion given that it has not been published anyhwere... black magic, mind reading? (just kidding) :-) I think you may have meant to say you have been unable to find where the information is located rather than inaccurately stating it has not been published. Developing the installation system is the province of debian-boot. Reading or searching that primary source would provide sufficient recent posts to enable anyone to come to the same conclusion as I did. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120207165818.GU2867@desktop
Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points
On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 16:58:18 +, Brian wrote: On Mon 06 Feb 2012 at 14:31:21 +, Camaleón wrote: On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 01:18:38 +, Brian wrote: No need to ask; WPA/WPA2 is known to be available in a Wheezy install. Booting a debian-testing netinst iso should dispel all doubts. I wonder how did you reach that conclusion given that it has not been published anyhwere... black magic, mind reading? (just kidding) :-) I think you may have meant to say you have been unable to find where the information is located rather than inaccurately stating it has not been published. Not under the usual sources (debian news or debian project). Although I would like reading every debian mailing list to follow up the current status for the development of every aspect of the distribution and get accurate information of the achieved milestones, I just can't. Developing the installation system is the province of debian-boot. That was my first option where to ask. Reading or searching that primary source would provide sufficient recent posts to enable anyone to come to the same conclusion as I did. There are many primary sources where to look at for the new features, that's why debian news makes a brief description for all of them. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jgrn0s$bh0$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points
On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 01:18:38 +, Brian wrote: On Sun 05 Feb 2012 at 21:09:26 +, Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 20:12:26 +, Brian wrote: Your proposal fits the remit of debian-...@lists.debian.org. Agree. But first we should know if it's a supported feature and that's why I suggested asking first to devels at debian-boot mailing list. This is where we came in! No need to ask; WPA/WPA2 is known to be available in a Wheezy install. Booting a debian-testing netinst iso should dispel all doubts. I wonder how did you reach that conclusion given that it has not been published anyhwere... black magic, mind reading? (just kidding) :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jgoo7p$un9$4...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 01:18:38 +, Brian wrote: On Sun 05 Feb 2012 at 21:09:26 +, Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 20:12:26 +, Brian wrote: Your proposal fits the remit of debian-...@lists.debian.org. Agree. But first we should know if it's a supported feature and that's why I suggested asking first to devels at debian-boot mailing list. This is where we came in! No need to ask; WPA/WPA2 is known to be available in a Wheezy install. Booting a debian-testing netinst iso should dispel all doubts. I wonder how did you reach that conclusion given that it has not been published anyhwere... black magic, mind reading? (just kidding) :-) http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/wpasupplicant-udeb http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/i386/daily/build_netboot.log http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/amd64/daily/build_netboot.log -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=SwvkFHQdqT4bHmqQoW6yGgFXA6pAJFe1Wj6R6c7=ew...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points
On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 10:28:45 -0500, Tom H wrote: On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 01:18:38 +, Brian wrote: On Sun 05 Feb 2012 at 21:09:26 +, Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 20:12:26 +, Brian wrote: Your proposal fits the remit of debian-...@lists.debian.org. Agree. But first we should know if it's a supported feature and that's why I suggested asking first to devels at debian-boot mailing list. This is where we came in! No need to ask; WPA/WPA2 is known to be available in a Wheezy install. Booting a debian-testing netinst iso should dispel all doubts. I wonder how did you reach that conclusion given that it has not been published anyhwere... black magic, mind reading? (just kidding) :-) http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/wpasupplicant-udeb http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/i386/daily/build_netboot.log http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/amd64/daily/build_netboot.log That's not the kind of sources users tend to read (i.e., Debian wiki, Debian News, debian-devel, debian-boot, Debian planet, Debian blogs...). Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jgorti$un9$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points
On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 20:05:00 +, Brian wrote: On Sat 04 Feb 2012 at 19:43:07 +, Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 19:15:04 +, Brian wrote: Get netcfg from http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/netcfg. Open. It is in the Debian directory. But how a person who is installing Debian is going to be aware of that? By reading the literature which comes with the stable release. It's the only one Debian supports. Otherwise they are by themseves or at the mercy of debian-user. :) And users thank their kindness, but if we are not aware about the possibility of using other than WEP for wireless installs we can't ever try or test or debug or report. If this is an option, it should be properly documented :-) What's the betting it will be before Wheezy is *officially* released? Well, the testing install guide is an ongoing work (the same way testing itself is) so for those who install wheezy having updated information of the install process it can be useful. Sorry, I can't resist this. :) From another mail in this thread: . . . . and offer your help for testing whatever needed. And what kind of help can we provide if we don't know if WPA/WPA2 is a supported option? New features need to be published at the wiki or install guide or... Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jglo7t$g99$3...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points
On Sun 05 Feb 2012 at 11:13:01 +, Camaleón wrote: And users thank their kindness, but if we are not aware about the possibility of using other than WEP for wireless installs we can't ever try or test or debug or report. I'm usually not inclined to argue against the obvious. :) If this is an option, it should be properly documented :-) Your proposal fits the remit of debian-...@lists.debian.org. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120205201225.GO2867@desktop
Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points
On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 20:12:26 +, Brian wrote: On Sun 05 Feb 2012 at 11:13:01 +, Camaleón wrote: If this is an option, it should be properly documented :-) Your proposal fits the remit of debian-...@lists.debian.org. Agree. But first we should know if it's a supported feature and that's why I suggested asking first to devels at debian-boot mailing list. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jgmr66$g99$2...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points
On Sun 05 Feb 2012 at 21:09:26 +, Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 20:12:26 +, Brian wrote: Your proposal fits the remit of debian-...@lists.debian.org. Agree. But first we should know if it's a supported feature and that's why I suggested asking first to devels at debian-boot mailing list. This is where we came in! No need to ask; WPA/WPA2 is known to be available in a Wheezy install. Booting a debian-testing netinst iso should dispel all doubts. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120206011838.GP2867@desktop
Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points
Wireless internet works from the same computer in windows with WPA2-PSK, AES. Is there a way to make the installer find my network? The installer can only deal with WEP encrytpion: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch02s01.html.en#network-cards *** Support for encrypted wireless during installation is currently limited to WEP. If your access point uses stronger encryption, it cannot be used during the installation process. *** Is this the long-time-final state, or does anybody plan to add support of more encryption methods? MQ -- Jan Matejka aka 'Moskyto' m...@ucw.cz Homepage: http://mq.ucw.cz/ Phone: +420 721 047 653 (only if really necessary, pls) -- Is there anybody out there? (Pink Floyd) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points
On Fri, 03 Feb 2012 19:19:56 +0100, Jan Moskyto Matejka wrote: Wireless internet works from the same computer in windows with WPA2-PSK, AES. Is there a way to make the installer find my network? The installer can only deal with WEP encrytpion: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch02s01.html.en#network- cards *** Support for encrypted wireless during installation is currently limited to WEP. If your access point uses stronger encryption, it cannot be used during the installation process. *** Is this the long-time-final state, or does anybody plan to add support of more encryption methods? I can't tell... maybe you can ask to debian-boot mailing list, query for the current status and offer your help for testing whatever needed. AFAICT, WEP is still the only option in wheezy. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jgjflh$273$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points
On Sat 04 Feb 2012 at 14:34:25 +, Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 03 Feb 2012 19:19:56 +0100, Jan Moskyto Matejka wrote: Is this the long-time-final state, or does anybody plan to add support of more encryption methods? I can't tell... maybe you can ask to debian-boot mailing list, query for the current status and offer your help for testing whatever needed. AFAICT, WEP is still the only option in wheezy. The templates file in the netcfg udeb package is illuminating. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120204165530.GD2867@desktop
Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Jan Moskyto Matejka m...@ucw.cz wrote: Wireless internet works from the same computer in windows with WPA2-PSK, AES. Is there a way to make the installer find my network? The installer can only deal with WEP encrytpion: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch02s01.html.en#network-cards *** Support for encrypted wireless during installation is currently limited to WEP. If your access point uses stronger encryption, it cannot be used during the installation process. *** Is this the long-time-final state, or does anybody plan to add support of more encryption methods? http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/02/msg00244.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=SzrV=gh=dp30xam6+dxd-huxakyqz4ujxrt8db3awg...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points
On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 16:55:30 +, Brian wrote: On Sat 04 Feb 2012 at 14:34:25 +, Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 03 Feb 2012 19:19:56 +0100, Jan Moskyto Matejka wrote: Is this the long-time-final state, or does anybody plan to add support of more encryption methods? I can't tell... maybe you can ask to debian-boot mailing list, query for the current status and offer your help for testing whatever needed. AFAICT, WEP is still the only option in wheezy. The templates file in the netcfg udeb package is illuminating. What templates? :-? Testing installation guide is still displaying the same information as squeeze for this regard, if something has changed maybe needs to be updated: http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/ch02s01.html#network-cards Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jgjuqs$273$2...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points
On Sat 04 Feb 2012 at 18:53:16 +, Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 16:55:30 +, Brian wrote: The templates file in the netcfg udeb package is illuminating. What templates? :-? Get netcfg from http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/netcfg. Open. It is in the Debian directory. Testing installation guide is still displaying the same information as squeeze for this regard, if something has changed maybe needs to be updated: What's the betting it will be before Wheezy is *officially* released? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120204191504.GH2867@desktop
Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points
On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 19:15:04 +, Brian wrote: On Sat 04 Feb 2012 at 18:53:16 +, Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 16:55:30 +, Brian wrote: The templates file in the netcfg udeb package is illuminating. What templates? :-? Get netcfg from http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/netcfg. Open. It is in the Debian directory. But how a person who is installing Debian is going to be aware of that? Testing installation guide is still displaying the same information as squeeze for this regard, if something has changed maybe needs to be updated: What's the betting it will be before Wheezy is *officially* released? Well, the testing install guide is an ongoing work (the same way testing itself is) so for those who install wheezy having updated information of the install process it can be useful. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jgk1ob$273$2...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points
On Sat 04 Feb 2012 at 19:43:07 +, Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 19:15:04 +, Brian wrote: Get netcfg from http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/netcfg. Open. It is in the Debian directory. But how a person who is installing Debian is going to be aware of that? By reading the literature which comes with the stable release. It's the only one Debian supports. Otherwise they are by themseves or at the mercy of debian-user. :) What's the betting it will be before Wheezy is *officially* released? Well, the testing install guide is an ongoing work (the same way testing itself is) so for those who install wheezy having updated information of the install process it can be useful. Sorry, I can't resist this. :) From another mail in this thread: . . . . and offer your help for testing whatever needed. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120204200500.GK2867@desktop
Netinstall cannot find wireless access points
Hi! I am trying to install debian on a lenovo x61 with an intel 4965AGN built in wifi card from a usb stick. The installation fails when trying to find wireless access points. It then asks me to enter ESSID and password which I do. It then does something with DHCP but still fails to find a network. In case it matters, I did create the boot usb stick with unetbootin. The result is the same whether I use stable or testing. For the stable branch I need to put the *iwlwifi*-*4965*-ucode file on the usb stick since otherwise the installer fails one step earlier (when recognizing the wifi card). With testing this is not necessary, I presume because the driver is built into the kernel already. Wireless internet works from the same computer in windows with WPA2-PSK, AES. Is there a way to make the installer find my network? Jens
Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points
On Fri, 03 Feb 2012 17:39:40 +0100, Jens Tobiska wrote: I am trying to install debian on a lenovo x61 with an intel 4965AGN built in wifi card from a usb stick. (...) Wireless internet works from the same computer in windows with WPA2-PSK, AES. Is there a way to make the installer find my network? The installer can only deal with WEP encrytpion: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch02s01.html.en#network-cards *** Support for encrypted wireless during installation is currently limited to WEP. If your access point uses stronger encryption, it cannot be used during the installation process. *** Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jgh3rp$bgm$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 03 Feb 2012 17:39:40 +0100, Jens Tobiska wrote: I am trying to install debian on a lenovo x61 with an intel 4965AGN built in wifi card from a usb stick. (...) Wireless internet works from the same computer in windows with WPA2-PSK, AES. Is there a way to make the installer find my network? The installer can only deal with WEP encrytpion: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch02s01.html.en#network-cards *** Support for encrypted wireless during installation is currently limited to WEP. If your access point uses stronger encryption, it cannot be used during the installation process. *** Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jgh3rp$bgm$1...@dough.gmane.org Are there any known issues associated with WPA2 in installed systems? Thanks in advance, Gustavo -- «La ignorancia, aliada con el poder, es el más feroz enemigo que puede tener la justicia.» (James Baldwin) Visite mi Blog en Apartaderos http://apartaderos.blogspot.com
Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points
On Fri, 03 Feb 2012 13:02:24 -0430, Gustavo J Mata wrote: On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 03 Feb 2012 17:39:40 +0100, Jens Tobiska wrote: I am trying to install debian on a lenovo x61 with an intel 4965AGN built in wifi card from a usb stick. (...) Wireless internet works from the same computer in windows with WPA2-PSK, AES. Is there a way to make the installer find my network? The installer can only deal with WEP encrytpion: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch02s01.html.en#network-cards *** Support for encrypted wireless during installation is currently limited to WEP. If your access point uses stronger encryption, it cannot be used during the installation process. *** Are there any known issues associated with WPA2 in installed systems? None that I'm aware of. If the card and driver support that encryption level, linux will not complaint :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jgh5ut$bgm$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 03 Feb 2012 13:02:24 -0430, Gustavo J Mata wrote: On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 03 Feb 2012 17:39:40 +0100, Jens Tobiska wrote: I am trying to install debian on a lenovo x61 with an intel 4965AGN built in wifi card from a usb stick. (...) Wireless internet works from the same computer in windows with WPA2-PSK, AES. Is there a way to make the installer find my network? The installer can only deal with WEP encrytpion: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch02s01.html.en#network-cards *** Support for encrypted wireless during installation is currently limited to WEP. If your access point uses stronger encryption, it cannot be used during the installation process. *** Are there any known issues associated with WPA2 in installed systems? None that I'm aware of. If the card and driver support that encryption level, linux will not complaint :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jgh5ut$bgm$1...@dough.gmane.org So if one is using a personal router it might be a good idea to change it's mode to WEP during installation. Thanks! Gustavo -- «La ignorancia, aliada con el poder, es el más feroz enemigo que puede tener la justicia.» (James Baldwin) Visite mi Blog en Apartaderos http://apartaderos.blogspot.com
Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points
On Fri 03 Feb 2012 at 17:39:40 +0100, Jens Tobiska wrote: I am trying to install debian on a lenovo x61 with an intel 4965AGN built in wifi card from a usb stick. The installation fails when trying to find wireless access points. It then asks me to enter ESSID and password which I do. It then does something with DHCP but still fails to find a network. That sounds like a possible failure of the wifi device to associate with the access point for some reason or other. Activating the fourth console (ALT-F4) might give you some clue. In case it matters, I did create the boot usb stick with unetbootin. The result is the same whether I use stable or testing. For the stable branch I need to put the *iwlwifi*-*4965*-ucode file on the usb stick since otherwise the installer fails one step earlier (when recognizing the wifi card). With testing this is not necessary, I presume because the driver is built into the kernel already. Which installer image did you use for testing? The one in production now does support WPA/WPA2. The *iwlwifi*-*4965*-ucode file is firmware (not a driver) and is in the non-free firmware-iwlwifi package. It will not be asked for if it is on a detected medium during the install. If the installer cannot find it it should inform you. I can only suggest you try again. Use 'expert' mode. You can check that the firmware does get provided to the kernel with 'ls /lib/firmware' on the secound console. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2012020318.GC2867@desktop
Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Jens Tobiska jtobi...@gmail.com wrote: I am trying to install debian on a lenovo x61 with an intel 4965AGN built in wifi card from a usb stick. The installation fails when trying to find wireless access points. It then asks me to enter ESSID and password which I do. It then does something with DHCP but still fails to find a network. In case it matters, I did create the boot usb stick with unetbootin. The result is the same whether I use stable or testing. For the stable branch I need to put the iwlwifi-4965-ucode file on the usb stick since otherwise the installer fails one step earlier (when recognizing the wifi card). With testing this is not necessary, I presume because the driver is built into the kernel already. Wireless internet works from the same computer in windows with WPA2-PSK, AES. Is there a way to make the installer find my network? WPA support was added to debian-installer for wheezy with wpasupplicant-udeb. For squeeze, you'll have to downgrade your wlan to sep or less; or use a wired network. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=swtppyxhybrt1prah9h4tdxvgm+vuz4grbszku7vqv...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points
On Fri, 03 Feb 2012 13:38:52 -0430, Gustavo J Mata wrote: On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: (...) Are there any known issues associated with WPA2 in installed systems? None that I'm aware of. If the card and driver support that encryption level, linux will not complaint :-) So if one is using a personal router it might be a good idea to change it's mode to WEP during installation. WEP is never a good idea... if that's your last resort, go with WEP but I prefer a stable Internet connection when installing from a remote server and so I'd choose a wired link. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jghae9$bgm$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 03 Feb 2012 13:38:52 -0430, Gustavo J Mata wrote: On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: (...) Are there any known issues associated with WPA2 in installed systems? None that I'm aware of. If the card and driver support that encryption level, linux will not complaint :-) So if one is using a personal router it might be a good idea to change it's mode to WEP during installation. WEP is never a good idea... if that's your last resort, go with WEP but I prefer a stable Internet connection when installing from a remote server and so I'd choose a wired link. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jghae9$bgm$1...@dough.gmane.org OK -- «La ignorancia, aliada con el poder, es el más feroz enemigo que puede tener la justicia.» (James Baldwin) Visite mi Blog en Apartaderos http://apartaderos.blogspot.com
