Re: Pastel colours in slrn - why?
On 2018-07-19, Dan Ritter wrote: > On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 02:45:32PM -0700, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> On 18/07/18 11:05 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: >> >> > On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 10:24:45AM -0700, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> > What terminal program are you using? Is the behavior the same if you >> > fire up slrn in xterm, rxvt, and gnome-terminal? (to pick three >> > wildly different code bases) >> >> Good call, sir! Indeed, when I did the fresh install of Stretch, >> the default terminal run from the panel (exo-open --launch TerminalEmulator) >> had changed to gnome-terminal. A bit of web searching came up with the >> exo-preferred-application command, which let me re-configure the default >> terminal emulator to Xfce Terminal. All is well again. Thanks! >> >> (Do the Gnome people like pastels?) > > As far as I can tell, the guiding principle of the GNOME project > these days is "I like it, so that's what you should use." > > Only I don't like it. > > Luckily, we live in a world full of choices, and the decision to > use a particular desktop environment (or not) is reasonably easy > to change. > > I like XFCE, urxvt, and vim and mutt and slrn. Other people can > have different preferences, and that's just fine. > > -dsr- > > It's also easy to change the colour palette used by gnome-terminal. Even the GNOME project offers choices.
Re: Pastel colours in slrn - why?
On 18/07/18 05:20 PM, Dan Ritter wrote: On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 02:45:32PM -0700, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 18/07/18 11:05 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 10:24:45AM -0700, Charlie Gibbs wrote: What terminal program are you using? Is the behavior the same if you fire up slrn in xterm, rxvt, and gnome-terminal? (to pick three wildly different code bases) Good call, sir! Indeed, when I did the fresh install of Stretch, the default terminal run from the panel (exo-open --launch TerminalEmulator) had changed to gnome-terminal. A bit of web searching came up with the exo-preferred-application command, which let me re-configure the default terminal emulator to Xfce Terminal. All is well again. Thanks! (Do the Gnome people like pastels?) As far as I can tell, the guiding principle of the GNOME project these days is "I like it, so that's what you should use." Only I don't like it. I tried Ubuntu for a while, and was fairly impressed. And then Unity happened... Luckily, we live in a world full of choices, and the decision to use a particular desktop environment (or not) is reasonably easy to change. Try to explain that to a Windows vict^H^H^H^Huser. His brain would explode. -- cgi...@surfnaked.ca (Charlie Gibbs)
Re: Pastel colours in slrn - why?
On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 02:45:32PM -0700, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 18/07/18 11:05 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 10:24:45AM -0700, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > > What terminal program are you using? Is the behavior the same if you > > fire up slrn in xterm, rxvt, and gnome-terminal? (to pick three > > wildly different code bases) > > Good call, sir! Indeed, when I did the fresh install of Stretch, > the default terminal run from the panel (exo-open --launch TerminalEmulator) > had changed to gnome-terminal. A bit of web searching came up with the > exo-preferred-application command, which let me re-configure the default > terminal emulator to Xfce Terminal. All is well again. Thanks! > > (Do the Gnome people like pastels?) As far as I can tell, the guiding principle of the GNOME project these days is "I like it, so that's what you should use." Only I don't like it. Luckily, we live in a world full of choices, and the decision to use a particular desktop environment (or not) is reasonably easy to change. I like XFCE, urxvt, and vim and mutt and slrn. Other people can have different preferences, and that's just fine. -dsr-
Re: Pastel colours in slrn - why?
On 18/07/18 11:05 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 10:24:45AM -0700, Charlie Gibbs wrote: Recently I upgraded my laptop (a Lenovo T410) from Jessie to Stretch. I almost have everything working again, but something puzzling (and irritating) has happened to slrn. All the colours have been softened; it's as if everything has been replaced with pastels. Even white text on a black background has faded - it's now light gray text on a dark gray background. When I go to post or reply to a message, vim comes up and the screen snaps back to a crisp black and white, only to revert to washed-out colours when I return to slrn. Everything else (e.g. console windows) is OK - it's just slrn which is affected. My .slrnrc is unchanged. What has happened to my colours? And more importantly, how do I get them back to where they were? What terminal program are you using? Is the behavior the same if you fire up slrn in xterm, rxvt, and gnome-terminal? (to pick three wildly different code bases) Good call, sir! Indeed, when I did the fresh install of Stretch, the default terminal run from the panel (exo-open --launch TerminalEmulator) had changed to gnome-terminal. A bit of web searching came up with the exo-preferred-application command, which let me re-configure the default terminal emulator to Xfce Terminal. All is well again. Thanks! (Do the Gnome people like pastels?) After further digging, I noticed that my default manager was set to gdm3, as opposed to the lightdm on my desktop box, which is also running stretch. sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm Now my laptop feels much more familiar, and slrn is still crisp and clear. -- cgi...@surfnaked.ca (Charlie Gibbs)
Re: Pastel colours in slrn - why?
On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 10:24:45AM -0700, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > Recently I upgraded my laptop (a Lenovo T410) from Jessie to Stretch. > I almost have everything working again, but something puzzling (and > irritating) has happened to slrn. All the colours have been softened; > it's as if everything has been replaced with pastels. Even white text > on a black background has faded - it's now light gray text on a dark > gray background. When I go to post or reply to a message, vim comes > up and the screen snaps back to a crisp black and white, only to revert > to washed-out colours when I return to slrn. Everything else (e.g. > console windows) is OK - it's just slrn which is affected. > > My .slrnrc is unchanged. What has happened to my colours? And more > importantly, how do I get them back to where they were? > What terminal program are you using? Is the behavior the same if you fire up slrn in xterm, rxvt, and gnome-terminal? (to pick three wildly different code bases) -dsr-
Pastel colours in slrn - why?
Recently I upgraded my laptop (a Lenovo T410) from Jessie to Stretch. I almost have everything working again, but something puzzling (and irritating) has happened to slrn. All the colours have been softened; it's as if everything has been replaced with pastels. Even white text on a black background has faded - it's now light gray text on a dark gray background. When I go to post or reply to a message, vim comes up and the screen snaps back to a crisp black and white, only to revert to washed-out colours when I return to slrn. Everything else (e.g. console windows) is OK - it's just slrn which is affected. My .slrnrc is unchanged. What has happened to my colours? And more importantly, how do I get them back to where they were? -- /~\ cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid (Charlie Gibbs) \ / I'm really at ac.dekanfrus if you read it the right way. X Top-posted messages will probably be ignored. See RFC1855. / \ Fight low-contrast text in web pages! http://contrastrebellion.com
