subject:"Problem with Debian 6"

Re: Problem with Debian 6 LTS and vlc

2014-08-18 Thread davidson


On Thu, 14 Aug 2014, Bret Busby wrote:


Hello.


hi bret.


I am not sure whether support queries specific to Debian 6 LTS,
should be posted to this list,


i assume such queries are on-topic here.


or to the LTS list - on the web page at
https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Contact#debian-lts
is


Mailing lists

debian-lts

https://lists.debian.org/debian-lts/ (gmane)

Description: Discussion and coordination of long-term support work for
Debian. Everyone involved or interested in providing Long-Term Support
for Debian should feel free to join this list. Discussion of policy,
on-going support issues, and anything else relating to LTS are all
on-topic here.



though i'm not subscribed to debian-lts, based on that description i
would expect your query regarding installing vlc to be on-topic there
as well.


which makes that list appear to me (along with the messages that I
have so far seen posted to it), to be for developers, rather than
for Debian 6 LTS users who are seeking support.


fwiw, that is not my interpretation.


I have just tried to install vlc on this laptop.

At first attempt, it kept prompting for the disc number..., so I
checked the /etc/apt/sources.list file, and found that it was not set
up for LTS.


as you have probably discovered, if you have a working internet
connection and aren't in the mood to mess around with cds, then you
should comment out any lines beginning with 'deb cdrom:...' in
/etc/apt/sources.list .


So, I updated the /etc/apt/sources.list file, as (I believe) shown on
the relevant wiki web page, and ran apt-get update and then apt-get
upgrade, and that apparently included removal of about 3.6MB of
something (it did not say what would be removed).


the more details you supply, pertaining to your problem, the more
details you are likely to receive, pertaining to its solution.  (i am
a little surprised you haven't received more responses to your query
yet, but maybe this principle explains why.)

regarding your sources.list, i wonder what is the output of

 $ grep '^[^#]' /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*}


But, now I can not install vlc.


i do not run squeeze any more, but i find that surprising.  sounds
like a problem.  i wonder what the problem is.


I get, in the error box (the error classification/description, can
not be copied and pasted),


vlc:
Depends: vlc-nox but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libfribidi0 (=0.19.2) but it is not installable
Depends: libsdl-image1.2 (=1.2.10) but it is not installable
Depends: libxcb-keysyms1 (=0.3.6) but it is not installable
Recommends: vlc-plugin-notify but it is not going to be installed
Recommends: vlc-plugin-pulse but it is not going to be installed


Is vlc no longer installable, on Debian 6?


with the caveat that i don't currently run squeeze myself, it would
surprise me if vlc were not installable on squeeze, and (with due
respect to third-party repository enthusiasts) i doubt that third
party repositories are required to install it.

again, regarding your sources.list, i wonder what is the output of

 $ grep '^[^#]' /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*}

-wes


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Re: Problem with Debian 6 LTS and vlc

2014-08-15 Thread davidson


On Thu, 14 Aug 2014, Go Linux wrote:


On Wed, 8/13/14, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote:

[snip]


 Is vlc no longer installable, on Debian 6?

---

I have vlc running on squeeze LTS.  Looks like it comes from Debian
multimedia packages maintainers
pkg-multimedia-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org so you'll
likely have to add the http://www.deb-multimedia.org oldstable main
repo to your sources list.


FYI:

 There is 'Debian Multimedia Maintainers' and 'deb-multimedia.org'. So what's the 
difference?

 
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia/FAQ#There_is_.27Debian_Multimedia_Maintainers.27_and_.27deb-multimedia.org.27._So_what.27s_the_difference.3F

deb-multimedia.org is unrelated to the debian multimedia packaging
team.

-wes


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Re: Problem with Debian 6 LTS and vlc

2014-08-15 Thread davidson


On Fri, 15 Aug 2014, david...@ling.ohio-state.edu wrote:


On Thu, 14 Aug 2014, Go Linux wrote:


On Wed, 8/13/14, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote:

[snip]


 Is vlc no longer installable, on Debian 6?

---

I have vlc running on squeeze LTS.  Looks like it comes from Debian
multimedia packages maintainers
pkg-multimedia-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org so you'll
likely have to add the http://www.deb-multimedia.org oldstable main
repo to your sources list.


FYI:

There is 'Debian Multimedia Maintainers' and 'deb-multimedia.org'. So 
what's the difference?


https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia/FAQ#There_is_.27Debian_Multimedia_Maintainers.27_and_.27deb-multimedia.org.27._So_what.27s_the_difference.3F


just for the record, to sidestep eventual link-rot:

from DebianMultimedia/FAQ - Debian Wiki
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia/FAQ#There_is_.27Debian_Multimedia_Maintainers.27_and_.27deb-multimedia.org.27._So_what.27s_the_difference.3F

| 2.5. There is 'Debian Multimedia Maintainers' and
| 'deb-multimedia.org'. So what's the difference?

|'Debian Multimedia Maintainers' is the team behind the packaging
|of multimedia related packages distributed with Debian. In other
|words, 'Debian Multimedia Maintainers' is us.

|'deb-multimedia.org' (aka 'dmo' or 'd-m.o', formerly
|'debian-multimedia.org') is a site that offers a repository of
|multimedia packages as well. That site is maintained by an
|individual that is not part of this team.

| 2.5.1. freedom

|A key difference between the 'deb-multimedia.org' and our team is
|that we strive to maintain packages that are considered DFSG free
|or get them to a state where they become DFSG free.  Moreover, we
|aim at proper integration of programs into the Debian system. In
|contrast to official Debian packages, many packages from
|'deb-multimedia.org' are licensed under non-free terms that limit
|their use and are not freely redistributable.

| 2.5.2. versioning

|To distinguish between our official packages and packages from
|d-m.o, d-m.o adds an 'epoch' to the version number and uses a
|specific revision counter. This means that once you installed a
|version from d-m.o, package management software will always
|consider that version newer than the official package - even when
|the official package is in actual fact a newer version (but
|without the epoch).


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Re: Problem with Debian 6 LTS and vlc

2014-08-15 Thread Go Linux

On Fri, 8/15/14, david...@ling.ohio-state.edu david...@ling.ohio-state.edu
wrote:

Subject: Re: Problem with Debian 6 LTS and vlc
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Friday, August 15, 2014, 3:54 PM

On Thu, 14 Aug 2014, Go Linux wrote:

On Wed, 8/13/14, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote:
[snip]

Is vlc no longer installable, on Debian 6?

---

I have vlc running on squeeze LTS. Looks like it comes from Debian
multimedia packages maintainers
pkg-multimedia-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org so you'll
likely have to add the http://www.deb-multimedia.org oldstable main
repo to your sources list.

FYI:

There is 'Debian Multimedia Maintainers' and 'deb-multimedia.org'. So what's
the difference?

https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia/FAQ#There_is_.27Debian_Multimedia_Maintainers.27_and_.27deb-multimedia.org.27._So_what.27s_the_difference.3F

deb-multimedia.org is unrelated to the debian multimedia packaging
team.

---

This description comes from the properties option in synaptic:

Debian multimedia packages maintainers
pkg-multimedia-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org

But when I just checked from the source option it says it was installed from:

oldstable/main (http.debian.net)

It has the official Debian logo on the vlc entries so it must be still be in
oldstable now. IIRC it was about this time that multimedia was no longer being
maintained and supported by Debian and moved over to a third party repo.
Section 2.5 on the page you posted above has a thorough explanation starting
with this:

2.5. There is 'Debian Multimedia Maintainers' and 'deb-multimedia.org'. So
what's the difference?

'Debian Multimedia Maintainers' is the team behind the packaging of multimedia
related packages distributed with Debian. In other words, 'Debian Multimedia
Maintainers' is us.

'deb-multimedia.org' (aka 'dmo' or 'd-m.o', formerly 'debian-multimedia.org')
is a site that offers a repository of multimedia packages as well. That site is
maintained by an individual that is not part of this team.

If you continue reading down that page the transitions and differences are
clearly described.

As an alternative, you might try the version in the Mepis community repo for
squeeze. The media packages that Steve Pusser builds have always been
compatible with my system. He's a real wizard!

golinux

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Re: Problem with Debian 6 LTS and vlc

2014-08-14 Thread Go Linux

On Wed, 8/13/14, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Subject: Problem with Debian 6 LTS and vlc
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2014, 11:46 PM

 I have just tried to install vlc on this laptop.

 At first attempt, it kept prompting for the disc number..., so I
 checked the /etc/apt/sources.list file, and found that it was not set up for 
LTS.

 So, I updated the /etc/apt/sources.list file, as (I believe) shown on the 
relevant wiki web page, and ran apt-get update and then
 apt-get upgrade, and that apparently included removal of about 3.6MB of 
something (it did not say what would be removed).

 But, now I can not install vlc.

 I get, in the error box (the error classification/description, can not be 
copied and pasted)

 vlc:
  Depends: vlc-nox but it is not going to be installed
  Depends: libfribidi0 (=0.19.2) but it is not installable
  Depends: libsdl-image1.2 (=1.2.10) but it is not installable
  Depends: libxcb-keysyms1 (=0.3.6) but it is not installable
  Recommends: vlc-plugin-notify but it is not going to be installed
  Recommends: vlc-plugin-pulse but it is not going to be installed

 Is vlc no longer installable, on Debian 6?

---

I have vlc running on squeeze LTS.  Looks like it comes from Debian multimedia 
packages maintainers pkg-multimedia-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org so 
you'll likely have to add the http://www.deb-multimedia.org  oldstable main 
repo to your sources list.

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Problem with Debian 6 LTS and vlc

2014-08-13 Thread Bret Busby

Hello.

I am not sure whether support queries specific to Debian 6 LTS, should
be posted to this list, or to the LTS list - on the web page at
https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Contact#debian-lts
is

Mailing lists

debian-lts

https://lists.debian.org/debian-lts/ (gmane)

Description: Discussion and coordination of long-term support work for
Debian. Everyone involved or interested in providing Long-Term Support
for Debian should feel free to join this list. Discussion of policy,
on-going support issues, and anything else relating to LTS are all
on-topic here.

which makes that list appear to me (along with the messages that I
have so far seen posted to it), to be for developers, rather than for
Debian 6 LTS users who are seeking support.

I have just tried to install vlc on this laptop.

At first attempt, it kept prompting for the disc number..., so I
checked the /etc/apt/sources.list file, and found that it was not set
up for LTS.

So, I updated the /etc/apt/sources.list file, as (I believe) shown on
the relevant wiki web page, and ran apt-get update and then apt-get
upgrade, and that apparently included removal of about 3.6MB of
something (it did not say what would be removed).

But, now I can not install vlc.

I get, in the error box (the error classification/description, can not
be copied and pasted),

vlc:
Depends: vlc-nox but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libfribidi0 (=0.19.2) but it is not installable
Depends: libsdl-image1.2 (=1.2.10) but it is not installable
Depends: libxcb-keysyms1 (=0.3.6) but it is not installable
Recommends: vlc-plugin-notify but it is not going to be installed
Recommends: vlc-plugin-pulse but it is not going to be installed

Is vlc no longer installable, on Debian 6?

--
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
..

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you'll know what the answer means.
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