Re: Problems with Talk under Debian
Gerry Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I had trouble with this too. I believe one problem is that the host name of your machine must match the IP address of your machine. That's exactly right. And lastly, Sun's talk seems to be incompatible with just about every other OS's talk that I've tried, including Linux. Unless you use ytalk. ytalk can communicate with both kinds of talk daemons. Unfortunately there is no ytalkd, a talk daemon which could communicate with both kinds of clients. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with Talk under Debian
On 26 Dec 1996, Guy Maor wrote: Gerry Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And lastly, Sun's talk seems to be incompatible with just about every other OS's talk that I've tried, including Linux. Unless you use ytalk. ytalk can communicate with both kinds of talk daemons. Unfortunately there is no ytalkd, a talk daemon which could communicate with both kinds of clients. Even using ytalk on Linux, I am unable to establish a talk connection with the Suns at my school. Gerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] From miss Received: from mongo.pixar.com (138.72.50.60) by master.debian.org with SMTP; 27 Dec 1996 23:20:52 - Received: (qmail 25261 invoked from network); 27 Dec 1996 23:10:24 - Received: from primer.i-connect.net (HELO master.debian.org) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) by mongo.pixar.com with SMTP; 27 Dec 1996 23:10:24 - Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 17:08:42 -0600 (CST) Sender: Roy C Bixler [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Roy C Bixler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Nelson Posse Lago [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org, Christoph Lameter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Poppasswd In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: GEsUH.0.yP5.pS5no@master.debian.org Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org Resent-Reply-To: debian-user@lists.debian.org X-Mailing-List: debian-user@lists.debian.org archive/latest/2019 X-Loop: debian-user@lists.debian.org Precedence: list Priority: non-urgent Importance: low Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, 25 Dec 1996, Nelson Posse Lago wrote: Hi, This is a very tricky problem. poppassd is a small app that calls passwd to change the password. Well, it passes some arguments to passwd and expects some responses from it. All very fine. Now, the newer debians use a passwd program that does a few checks on the password. If the new password is too similar to the old one, or if it is too short, or if it has too many repeated characters, etc. it will issue an error message and prompt you for a new (hopefully better) password. poppassd was not desinged to deal with this. It just waits for passwd to issue the prompt re-enter new password while password is saying too simple: try again. Try entering a very random, 8 chars password to see if it works. To solve your problem, you must try to find a passwd program that doesn't do these checks (at the expense of security) or hack poppassd to be smarter. I don't know if debian has a simpler passwd program. I checked to see if this is the problem by logging into the server directly and changing my password to the same thing I attempted to change it to with Eudora and 'poppasswd'. That worked just fine the first time. My configuration is Debian 1.2 stable (poppasswd_1.2-4) and Eudora Pro v. 3.0 flailing away on Windoze '95. The connection just hangs after I specify the new password for the second time. The Eudora dialog box just sits with a 'newpasswd' text. If I look on the server, there are idle 'poppasswd' and 'passwd rcb' processes running. Also, as expected, typing in my original password incorrectly will cause Eudora to abort the operation. It really appears as if 'poppasswd' itself is just hanging after it receives the 'newpass' command - this is what I got if I 'telnet' direct to port 106 and go through the protocol sequence. Any ideas? Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with Talk under Debian
On Sat, 21 Dec 1996, John Goerzen wrote: I have been having problems with talk and ytalk under Linux. Any help would be greatly appreciated! I had trouble with this too. I believe one problem is that the host name of your machine must match the IP address of your machine. Otherwise, other talk daemons won't talk to you. If you are given a dynamic IP address by your ISP, then it almost certainly doesn't match. So, you must set the host name of your machine to match the given IP number after you establish your PPP/SLIP connection. You can set it with the hostname command. I have the following line in /etc/ppp/ip-up to do this for me automatically whenever I establish a PPP connection: /bin/hostname `/usr/bin/host $4 | head -1 | cut -f 2 -d ` Also, reverse name lookup must be set up correctly by whomever is in charge of your domain (probably your ISP). Otherwise, you will not be able to initiate a talk connection, although I think you can still reply if someone else initiates the talk session with you. And lastly, Sun's talk seems to be incompatible with just about every other OS's talk that I've tried, including Linux. So, if you're trying to talk to someone on a Sun, you're probably SOL. It would be nice if someone would hack the talk that comes with Linux so that it could talk to Suns as well. Gerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was delayed because the list mail delivery agent was down.
Re: Problems with Talk under Debian
On Tue, 24 Dec 1996, Gerry Jensen wrote: I had trouble with this too. I believe one problem is that the host name of your machine must match the IP address of your machine. Otherwise, thank you for this information! I've had this problem too ;) And lastly, Sun's talk seems to be incompatible with just about every other OS's talk that I've tried, including Linux. So, if you're trying to At least on my schools sun's running SunOS, they've got at least two, but I think three talk-clients. Maybe you should try some other.. When someone requests a talk with me when I use my school's sun the talk daemon tells me which talk-client to use. // Jonas [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2:201/262.37] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problems with Talk under Debian
Hello, I have been having problems with talk and ytalk under Linux. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Both programs work fine when trying to talk to somebody else on the local machine. When trying to use talk or ytalk to talk to somebody on a remote system, neither program works. Talk just locks up displaying [Checking for invitation on caller's machine]. Ytalk complains of find_daemon: recv() failed Connection refused and then complains sendit: recv() failed Connection refused. On IRC #linux, somebody told me that there might be a problem in /etc/hosts, but did not know what the problem might be. I am using PPP and have dynamic IP addressing. My system also is UUCP-connected, so for the purposes of things like hostname, it is known as complete.org (the domain name used for news, mail, etc.) Everything seems to work OK -- IRC, News, etc. But not talk. So I hope that somebody here can help me. I have tried setting localhost to 127.0.0.0 but that seems to break more things than it fixes. People have told me that everything else is supposed to be 127.0.0.0 so I did that. Here is my /etc/hosts file: 127.0.0.0 complete.orgcomplete 127.0.0.1 localhost # These below are rarely used. 127.0.0.0 centre.complete.org centre 127.0.0.0 mail.complete.org mail 127.0.0.0 news.complete.org news # Some other irrelevant stuff trimmed. My /etc/hostname contains the word complete. This file is fed to the hostname program at boot time by using hostname --file. -- John Goerzen | System administrator owner, The Communications Custom programming| Centre and Complete Network (complete.org) [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Free Unix shell access, 316-367-8490 w/ your modem. -- John Goerzen | System administrator owner, The Communications Custom programming| Centre and Complete Network (complete.org) [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Free Unix shell access, 316-367-8490 w/ your modem. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with Talk under Debian
On Sat, 21 Dec 1996, John Goerzen wrote: Hello, I have been having problems with talk and ytalk under Linux. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Both programs work fine when trying to talk to somebody else on the local machine. When trying to use talk or ytalk to talk to somebody on a remote system, neither program works. Talk just locks up displaying [Checking for invitation on caller's machine]. Ytalk complains of find_daemon: recv() failed Connection refused and then complains sendit: recv() failed Connection refused. Have a look in /etc/inetd.conf talk dgram udp waitroot /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.talkd ntalk dgram udp waitroot /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.talkd Make sure these two lines are uncommented, then kill -HUP inetd (i think that's it, or just do a ps -aux, get the process number for /usr/sbin/inetd and do a kill -HUP ##) Good Luck. Paul -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with Talk under Debian
Hi Mr, You wrote: Mr Ytalk complains of find_daemon: recv() fail Connection refused Mr Have a look in /etc/inetd.conf Mr Mr talk dgram udp waitroot /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.talkd Mr ntalk dgram udp waitroot /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.talkd Ytalks find_daemon: recv() fail Connection refused mean that Connection is refused _by_ the daemon. I am having this problem too. Try to run in.talkd with '-d' option, the daemon will write some debug info via syslog (should be notice.debug), i.e --- talk dgram udp waitroot /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.talkd -d ntalk dgram udp waitroot /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.talkd -d --- Regards, Borik -- Boris D. Beletsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] For pgp public key, e-mail me with subject get pgp-key borik -- Boris D. Beletsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] For pgp public key, e-mail me with subject get pgp-key -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
