Re: mail server
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 20:21:53 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: (...) since we fetch the email via pop and sent via smtp the problem is i need to make backup of individual PST. What? I don't get this... you mean you need to migrate the e-mails and other stuff from Outlook clients to the new e-mailing service? ok our 20 users fetching their emails from our hosted server. which is maintained by our service provider. and we are keeping 3 months of emails on our mail server and in case of email lost we can not recover it since we have no backup. so my proposal to my management is if we place a centralized mail server we can make backup of users email from our mail server and old mail can also be restored. you can call it migrating or shifting :). but the purpose of the whole idea is to backup all emails and to provide more options to the users like web access and our users will be independent from our service provider and will be coordinating directly with me in any problem.. Then I guess the recipe I provided before it suits your needs. To migrate the current messages to your new-owned system you can use a dummy IMAP account to copy/paste (or simply move) the e-mails between the remote server and your which will work regardless the MUA in use. Once all of the accounts are created in your own e-mail server and working you can start polling the new messages from your remote server using fetchmail/getmail and configure your users e-mail clients to contact your e-mail server (via imap/pop3) instead your hosted one. Thanks, its been very helpful. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jv67f3$ltk$7...@dough.gmane.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cagwvfmk0fry6hcphxb+76sokke0o0amcsuddcdjwyogszy3...@mail.gmail.com
Re: mail server
On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 20:21:53 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: (...) since we fetch the email via pop and sent via smtp the problem is i need to make backup of individual PST. What? I don't get this... you mean you need to migrate the e-mails and other stuff from Outlook clients to the new e-mailing service? ok our 20 users fetching their emails from our hosted server. which is maintained by our service provider. and we are keeping 3 months of emails on our mail server and in case of email lost we can not recover it since we have no backup. so my proposal to my management is if we place a centralized mail server we can make backup of users email from our mail server and old mail can also be restored. you can call it migrating or shifting :). but the purpose of the whole idea is to backup all emails and to provide more options to the users like web access and our users will be independent from our service provider and will be coordinating directly with me in any problem.. Then I guess the recipe I provided before it suits your needs. To migrate the current messages to your new-owned system you can use a dummy IMAP account to copy/paste (or simply move) the e-mails between the remote server and your which will work regardless the MUA in use. Once all of the accounts are created in your own e-mail server and working you can start polling the new messages from your remote server using fetchmail/getmail and configure your users e-mail clients to contact your e-mail server (via imap/pop3) instead your hosted one. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jv67f3$ltk$7...@dough.gmane.org
Re: mail server
On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 00:52:48 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 6:51 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 18:01:09 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: actually i have spent 3 years working with Mailer daemon v7.0 so when ever some one say a name mail server unintentionally mailer daemon comes in my mind. this is my first time that i am implementing MTA on linux.since i have just started to shift from Microsoft to Linux. there is lot to learn. I first switched -time ago- from MDaemon (v3.2) when I installed a Linux system and had to select a good replacement for it. Hint: write down in a paper what's your current mail system data flow (user's mailboxes, incoming/outgoing messages, filter needings, anti-spam/ malware needings, local/remote connections...), what are your current requirements and what are the tasks that MDaemon is doing right now. This will help you to get the big picture for a better understanding. sorry i think i explain a bit wrong. i was using Mdeamon in my last company my current company is fetching emails from mail server from our service provider. Ah, okay :-) since we fetch the email via pop and sent via smtp the problem is i need to make backup of individual PST. What? I don't get this... you mean you need to migrate the e-mails and other stuff from Outlook clients to the new e-mailing service? therefore i presented the idea to management for IMAP. Well, yes, IMAP is good for migrating messages but can be slow if there are thousand messages to move or copy and/or if the IMAP server is accessed over Internet (I mean, not locally). so i think my basic need are. POP emails from hosted server. If you mean to fecth POP e-mails from your server to place them in your own server, Fetchmail or Getmail can do the jobs as I already told you. Once the messages are in your server, they can be accessed locally via POP, IMAP or directly put into the user's home. IMAP for local users, Good. ldap for AddressBook/contents update. OpenLDAP can hold this but it can take you some time to configure it. For a bunch of users maybe you should reconsider it. spam filter and antivirus scan. Antispam is necessary, the AV only when supporting windows clients. and obviously Web access for clients. Then you have to add a web server and a webmail service :-) and i dont know if SQL database is better then local mail folders. because mdeamon use to store data in a folder. but i think SQL is much more better then that. A SQL datadase for storing 20 users is a bit overwhelming, IMO. It will require an extra component (MySQL, PostgresSQL or SQLite) and the benefit of having a database for that small amount of users can be unnoticed. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jv3eni$vb5$5...@dough.gmane.org
Re: mail server
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 00:52:48 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 6:51 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 18:01:09 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: actually i have spent 3 years working with Mailer daemon v7.0 so when ever some one say a name mail server unintentionally mailer daemon comes in my mind. this is my first time that i am implementing MTA on linux.since i have just started to shift from Microsoft to Linux. there is lot to learn. I first switched -time ago- from MDaemon (v3.2) when I installed a Linux system and had to select a good replacement for it. Hint: write down in a paper what's your current mail system data flow (user's mailboxes, incoming/outgoing messages, filter needings, anti-spam/ malware needings, local/remote connections...), what are your current requirements and what are the tasks that MDaemon is doing right now. This will help you to get the big picture for a better understanding. sorry i think i explain a bit wrong. i was using Mdeamon in my last company my current company is fetching emails from mail server from our service provider. Ah, okay :-) since we fetch the email via pop and sent via smtp the problem is i need to make backup of individual PST. What? I don't get this... you mean you need to migrate the e-mails and other stuff from Outlook clients to the new e-mailing service? ok our 20 users fetching their emails from our hosted server. which is maintained by our service provider. and we are keeping 3 months of emails on our mail server and in case of email lost we can not recover it since we have no backup. so my proposal to my management is if we place a centralized mail server we can make backup of users email from our mail server and old mail can also be restored. you can call it migrating or shifting :). but the purpose of the whole idea is to backup all emails and to provide more options to the users like web access and our users will be independent from our service provider and will be coordinating directly with me in any problem.. therefore i presented the idea to management for IMAP. Well, yes, IMAP is good for migrating messages but can be slow if there are thousand messages to move or copy and/or if the IMAP server is accessed over Internet (I mean, not locally). so i think my basic need are. POP emails from hosted server. If you mean to fecth POP e-mails from your server to place them in your own server, Fetchmail or Getmail can do the jobs as I already told you. Once the messages are in your server, they can be accessed locally via POP, IMAP or directly put into the user's home. IMAP for local users, Good. ldap for AddressBook/contents update. OpenLDAP can hold this but it can take you some time to configure it. For a bunch of users maybe you should reconsider it. spam filter and antivirus scan. Antispam is necessary, the AV only when supporting windows clients. and obviously Web access for clients. Then you have to add a web server and a webmail service :-) and i dont know if SQL database is better then local mail folders. because mdeamon use to store data in a folder. but i think SQL is much more better then that. A SQL datadase for storing 20 users is a bit overwhelming, IMO. It will require an extra component (MySQL, PostgresSQL or SQLite) and the benefit of having a database for that small amount of users can be unnoticed. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jv3eni$vb5$5...@dough.gmane.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cagwvfmnpebjy4dj1_gyn77+sb+1bbg6dtqjngmnhl7ywnxo...@mail.gmail.com
Re: mail server
On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 20:21:53 +0500 Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com wrote: ok our 20 users fetching their emails from our hosted server. which is maintained by our service provider. and we are keeping 3 months of emails on our mail server and in case of email lost we can not recover it since we have no backup. so my proposal to my management is if we place a centralized mail server we can make backup of users email from our mail server and old mail can also be restored. you can call it migrating or shifting :). but the purpose of the whole idea is to backup all emails and to provide more options to the users like web access and our users will be independent from our service provider and will be coordinating directly with me in any problem.. Under normal circumstances, the receiving MTA deposits email in files or folders in the user's home directory on the server, as plain text. The user would normally access this mail by webmail, POP or IMAP, though he can open the emails with a text editor from within the home folder. This makes it difficult to lose many emails at one time, a single email corrupted by a bad file transfer will not affect any others. If you use an SQL server to store emails, as Microsoft Exchange does, there is the possibility of a large number of emails being lost in the case of a file corruption. If, in addition, you encrypt the database for security, you can pretty much throw it away if it gets corrupted, there will be little chance of recovery of any of it. You gain a lot in security and centralised backup, but problems can be much more serious. If you decide to go with simple text email storage in IMAP folders mapped to real directories, you can configure the MTA to deliver everyones' emails to individual folders but in a central location instead of their home directories, for ease of single backup. therefore i presented the idea to management for IMAP. Well, yes, IMAP is good for migrating messages but can be slow if there are thousand messages to move or copy and/or if the IMAP server is accessed over Internet (I mean, not locally). so i think my basic need are. POP emails from hosted server. If you mean to fecth POP e-mails from your server to place them in your own server, Fetchmail or Getmail can do the jobs as I already told you. Once the messages are in your server, they can be accessed locally via POP, IMAP or directly put into the user's home. IMAP for local users, Good. ldap for AddressBook/contents update. OpenLDAP can hold this but it can take you some time to configure it. For a bunch of users maybe you should reconsider it. At the moment, email clients seem only to be able to access remote email directories using LDAP. If you want a central, shared address book, LDAP appears to be the only option. I run OpenLDAP on my server solely to provide about forty email addresses to a mixture of clients and operating systems on three or four machines. I'd quite like to use an SQL server, which I do use for many other things, but email clients haven't quite got around to dealing with SQL servers yet. I've yet to see one capable of actually saving new contacts to an LDAP server, I have a web application to add new entries, which cannot be integrated with any email client. But it's the only game in town... Every now and then, I look around to see if there is a simple LDAP-SQL gateway (LDAP queries for address books are fairly simple, and map easily to SQL) but I haven't found one yet, and I don't have the time to write one. spam filter and antivirus scan. Antispam is necessary, the AV only when supporting windows clients. and obviously Web access for clients. Then you have to add a web server and a webmail service :-) Difficult to imagine a server that does not do web serving. and i dont know if SQL database is better then local mail folders. because mdeamon use to store data in a folder. but i think SQL is much more better then that. Better in some ways, worse in others. Google for exchange mailbox recovery. Of course, you don't have to make the same mistakes as Microsoft... A SQL datadase for storing 20 users is a bit overwhelming, IMO. It will require an extra component (MySQL, PostgresSQL or SQLite) and the benefit of having a database for that small amount of users can be unnoticed. If you need that level of security, search and backup convenience, you need it, no matter how many users. A lot of professions in the USA are required to use a specified level of security in their IT systems, so it is only a matter of time before an EU directive forbids the use of plain text files to store email... -- Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120729193056.62a48...@jretrading.com
Re: mail server
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Brad Alexander stor...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 8:20 AM, J. B baksh...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 19:58:39 +0800 Umarzuki Mochlis umarz...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/7/25 Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com: need suggestions, i know there are few populer mail servers like postfix, sandmail etc out there. here is some details about my office. 1. 20 users. 2. pop from main server 3. send via SMTP 4. local mail distribution IMAP i am not looking in to easy or hard mail server. what i am looking is it should be good for my carrier and for my office too. secure, stable, web base console etc. btw, i have heard that there is a mailserver called zimbra. but i think debian is not natively supporting it. any help would be appreciable. check iredmail. Easy to install. zimbra mail server ispmail server I wouldn't run zimbra unless you have pretty powerful hardware. I ran zimbra on a p4 with 1.5gb of ram and was rebooting it weekly. The java processes would deplete memory in that time. I have since replaced it with a much lighter vm running postfix + dovecot (imap/pop server) + roundcube (webmail). --b is there any good howto on Debian Squeeze on following tools -postfidx -dovecot -postfixadmin (web interface) -roundcube -spamassassin -clamv btw i have a question in my mind . postfix is mail server. but the question raising in my mind if postfix is the complete server then why we have to add several other tools like mentioned above (dovecot,spamassassin etc) ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cakmzw+btd1noagkdi30mhrns2cypamrgcugap8ggeqmsz9n...@mail.gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAGWVfM=3-994=ybp1tbhvk3zy7qb3pjna34y_jvgc+nk25l...@mail.gmail.com
Re: mail server
On Sb, 28 iul 12, 12:53:19, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: is there any good howto on Debian Squeeze on following tools -postfidx -dovecot -postfixadmin (web interface) -roundcube -spamassassin -clamv btw i have a question in my mind . postfix is mail server. but the question raising in my mind if postfix is the complete server then why we have to add several other tools like mentioned above (dovecot,spamassassin etc) ? Depends on what you consider a complete server. Mail is being sent/received only via SMTP, which is handled entirely by postfix. This means it is quite possible to run a mail server with postfix alone. However, you probably want users to be able to access the received mail without logging in on the mail server (as a matter of policy or convenience or both). Because of this you need dovecot and roundcube. Spamassasin and clamav are needed for spam and virus filtering, which would not make sense to integrate in a mail transport agent. Postfixadmin is just for your convenience. Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: mail server
Muhammad Yousuf Khan: btw i have a question in my mind . postfix is mail server. but the question raising in my mind if postfix is the complete server then why we have to add several other tools like mentioned above (dovecot,spamassassin etc) ? When Unix/Linux people talk about mail servers, they usually mean MTAs (mail transport agents). That's the software that talks SMTP and moves mail between systems, e.g. from your mail host to the mail server of your recipient and vice versa. Postfix is a quite popular MTA, even though Debian defaults to Exim. Dovecot is an IMAP and POP3 server. Its purpose is to make mail accessible to your users in case they use a mail user agent (Outlook, Thunderbird/Iceweasel, mutt etc.). Roundcube does the same, but by using a web interface instead of using IMAP/POP. You can always offer both because Roundcube needs an IMAP server in the background anyway. Spamassassin is a mail filtering tool that your MTA can use in order to decide to reject or silently delete unwanted mail. There are other programs with a similar functionality. The Unix philosophy is still one job, one tool. And for each job you can pick the tool most suitable to you from a variety of alternatives. The downside is that you have to learn all those tools and how to plug them together. The upside is that you learn all those tools. :) That helps to diagnose problems and solve specific requirements in your environment. The all-in-one approach is probably ok for closed systems, maybe without a dedicated administrator. In case of Zimbra you get additional groupware functionality , like a calendar service. For external mail routing, personally I would always pick one of the standard MTAs. For office environments, people mix both approaches by using a standard MTA for external communication and use some kind of groupware internally. J. -- I lust after strangers but only date people from the office. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: mail server
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 3:53 AM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com wrote: -postfidx -dovecot -postfixadmin (web interface) -roundcube -spamassassin -clamv btw i have a question in my mind . postfix is mail server. but the question raising in my mind if postfix is the complete server then why we have to add several other tools like mentioned above (dovecot,spamassassin etc) ? Postfix (and sendmail and it's ilk) are actually known as Mail Tranport Agents (MTAs). They are responsible for getting the mail from point A to point B. The other pieces are responsible for routing the mail locally (the mail user agent -- MUA), classifying and eliminating SPAM, etc. Think of the MTA as the airport. The MTA's responsibility is only to get you from one airport to the other, you (or the MUA) are responsible for getting from home (composing the message) to the originating airport, and from the destination airport to your final destination. Make more sense? --b -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cakmzw+y17gyzeffghrbzx8mokfy0s5wtd1fkxpidymmpmnu...@mail.gmail.com
Re: mail server
actually i have spent 3 years working with Mailer daemon v7.0 so when ever some one say a name mail server unintentionally mailer daemon comes in my mind. this is my first time that i am implementing MTA on linux.since i have just started to shift from Microsoft to Linux. there is lot to learn. but your individual help i have learn alot. Thanks, On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Brad Alexander stor...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 3:53 AM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com wrote: -postfidx -dovecot -postfixadmin (web interface) -roundcube -spamassassin -clamv btw i have a question in my mind . postfix is mail server. but the question raising in my mind if postfix is the complete server then why we have to add several other tools like mentioned above (dovecot,spamassassin etc) ? Postfix (and sendmail and it's ilk) are actually known as Mail Tranport Agents (MTAs). They are responsible for getting the mail from point A to point B. The other pieces are responsible for routing the mail locally (the mail user agent -- MUA), classifying and eliminating SPAM, etc. Think of the MTA as the airport. The MTA's responsibility is only to get you from one airport to the other, you (or the MUA) are responsible for getting from home (composing the message) to the originating airport, and from the destination airport to your final destination. Make more sense? --b -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAGWVfMn9OzFBpwrOByvFqiAaB6Sy0aOL97H-KcfWLbpKkh=e...@mail.gmail.com
Re: mail server
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Brad Alexander stor...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 3:53 AM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com wrote: -postfidx -dovecot -postfixadmin (web interface) -roundcube -spamassassin -clamv btw i have a question in my mind . postfix is mail server. but the question raising in my mind if postfix is the complete server then why we have to add several other tools like mentioned above (dovecot,spamassassin etc) ? Postfix (and sendmail and it's ilk) are actually known as Mail Tranport Agents (MTAs). They are responsible for getting the mail from point A to point B. The other pieces are responsible for routing the mail locally (the mail user agent -- MUA), classifying and eliminating SPAM, etc. Think of the MTA as the airport. The MTA's responsibility is only to get you from one airport to the other, you (or the MUA) are responsible for getting from home (composing the message) to the originating airport, and from the destination airport to your final destination. Make more sense? thanks, good example. if i say ISPs which provide SMTP relay. are using MTA where they dont want to store emails (unlike i have to do in office) rather just relay all the messages to destination. Correct? --b -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAGWVfMmRjY6spQCK3j_6GmQNXKPTztc9gB=9sjcsucoypbn...@mail.gmail.com
Re: mail server
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 9:09 AM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com wrote: thanks, good example. if i say ISPs which provide SMTP relay. are using MTA where they dont want to store emails (unlike i have to do in office) rather just relay all the messages to destination. Correct? Generally correct, though it could be done a couple of ways. ISP machines could have local messages that they have to process, e.g. system messages such as cron output and the like, so they may still have some manner of MUA...or they may route that type of message to a different machine. This can be done using aliases, such as in /etc/aliases. --b -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cakmzw+bsxfvt9pmfx5keorlxaorsks5nmxqxw6d3vo6n20o...@mail.gmail.com
Re: mail server
On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 18:01:09 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: actually i have spent 3 years working with Mailer daemon v7.0 so when ever some one say a name mail server unintentionally mailer daemon comes in my mind. this is my first time that i am implementing MTA on linux.since i have just started to shift from Microsoft to Linux. there is lot to learn. I first switched -time ago- from MDaemon (v3.2) when I installed a Linux system and had to select a good replacement for it. Hint: write down in a paper what's your current mail system data flow (user's mailboxes, incoming/outgoing messages, filter needings, anti-spam/ malware needings, local/remote connections...), what are your current requirements and what are the tasks that MDaemon is doing right now. This will help you to get the big picture for a better understanding. Zimbra can be seen as a tool more in the line of what MDaemon is (an all in one solution providing pop3/imap/smtp/webmail/AV/filtering/ multipop...) but that can be an advantage only for the first days when you setup but as time passes, it will reveal that using separate tools for each task has more benefits that relying in just one service for the mail system. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jv0qp9$108$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: mail server
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 6:51 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 18:01:09 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: actually i have spent 3 years working with Mailer daemon v7.0 so when ever some one say a name mail server unintentionally mailer daemon comes in my mind. this is my first time that i am implementing MTA on linux.since i have just started to shift from Microsoft to Linux. there is lot to learn. I first switched -time ago- from MDaemon (v3.2) when I installed a Linux system and had to select a good replacement for it. Hint: write down in a paper what's your current mail system data flow (user's mailboxes, incoming/outgoing messages, filter needings, anti-spam/ malware needings, local/remote connections...), what are your current requirements and what are the tasks that MDaemon is doing right now. This will help you to get the big picture for a better understanding. sorry i think i explain a bit wrong. i was using Mdeamon in my last company my current company is fetching emails from mail server from our service provider. since we fetch the email via pop and sent via smtp the problem is i need to make backup of individual PST. therefore i presented the idea to management for IMAP. so i think my basic need are. POP emails from hosted server. IMAP for local users, ldap for AddressBook/contents update. spam filter and antivirus scan. and obviously Web access for clients. and i dont know if SQL database is better then local mail folders. because mdeamon use to store data in a folder. but i think SQL is much more better then that. Zimbra can be seen as a tool more in the line of what MDaemon is (an all in one solution providing pop3/imap/smtp/webmail/AV/filtering/ multipop...) but that can be an advantage only for the first days when you setup but as time passes, it will reveal that using separate tools for each task has more benefits that relying in just one service for the mail system. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jv0qp9$108$1...@dough.gmane.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cagwvfmmvbh2ex5jdxuxce9j6xhdxnnpfcwhpn9feyonhpey...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Re: mail server
is there any good howto on Debian Squeeze on following tools -postfidx -dovecot -postfixadmin (web interface) -roundcube -spamassassin -clamv Most of that list is covered by the tutorials at http://workaround.org/ispmail/ I have used the tutorial for Debian Lenny and found it very helpful; it both tells you what to do and explains things. The tutorial has since been updated for Squeeze although I haven't looked at that version. -- Cheers, Clive -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120728213205.GA3480@lister.localdomain
Re: mail server
[Please trim your posts.] On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 12:53:19PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: is there any good howto on Debian Squeeze on following tools Google is your friend. It also corrects spelling mistakes. :) -postfidx Web Results 1 - 10 of about 276,000 for +squeeze +postfidx +howto. (0.34 seconds) -dovecot Web Results 1 - 10 of about 65,300 for +squeeze +dovecot +howto. (0.34 seconds) -postfixadmin (web interface) Web Results 1 - 10 of about 36,000 for +squeeze +postfixadmin +howto. (0.41 seconds) -roundcube Web Results 1 - 10 of about 27,200 for +squeeze +roundcube +howto. (0.31 seconds) -spamassassin Web Results 1 - 1 of about 1 for +squeeze +spamassassin +how to. (0.16 seconds) Showing results for +squeeze +spamassassin +how to. Search instead for +squeeze +spamassassin +howto -clamv Web Results 1 - 10 of about 24,800,000 for +squeeze +clamv +howto. (0.41 seconds) Did you mean: +squeeze +clamav +howto -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120729044808.GA1884@tal
Re: mail server
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 8:20 AM, J. B baksh...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 19:58:39 +0800 Umarzuki Mochlis umarz...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/7/25 Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com: need suggestions, i know there are few populer mail servers like postfix, sandmail etc out there. here is some details about my office. 1. 20 users. 2. pop from main server 3. send via SMTP 4. local mail distribution IMAP i am not looking in to easy or hard mail server. what i am looking is it should be good for my carrier and for my office too. secure, stable, web base console etc. btw, i have heard that there is a mailserver called zimbra. but i think debian is not natively supporting it. any help would be appreciable. check iredmail. Easy to install. zimbra mail server ispmail server I wouldn't run zimbra unless you have pretty powerful hardware. I ran zimbra on a p4 with 1.5gb of ram and was rebooting it weekly. The java processes would deplete memory in that time. I have since replaced it with a much lighter vm running postfix + dovecot (imap/pop server) + roundcube (webmail). --b -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cakmzw+btd1noagkdi30mhrns2cypamrgcugap8ggeqmsz9n...@mail.gmail.com
Re: mail server
On 25.07.2012 22:14, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: Thanks for letting me know these matters but i am not using it publicly i will be downloading my emails from my hosted mail server. Then you will have to add a tool like fetchmail to your list to download the mails and put them into the local mailboxes. webmin can handle this quite well, too. Bye. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5010fd22.7050...@concepts-and-training.de
Re: mail server
On 25.07.2012 22:17, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: how you perform basic tasks like mail-ques checking, logs, mail box create, delete, mail restriction .etc.? With postfix there is the command postqueue which will show you the current queue. With the postsuper command you can delete Mails from the queue. Mail restrictions are handled in the postfix-Config directly. See http://www.postfix.org/RESTRICTION_CLASS_README.html for Details. Other rules are possible with virtual_alias and other functions, see http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html#virtual_alias. Dovecot also support Sieve filter, http://wiki.dovecot.org/LDA/Sieve/. Bye. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50110cc6.8080...@concepts-and-training.de
Re: mail server
On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 01:17:15 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 16:52:25 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: need suggestions, i know there are few populer mail servers like postfix, sandmail etc out there. (...) My ingredients for the recipe: - Fetchmail (or getmail) for polling e-mails form your remote provider - Postfix (for local/remote lmtp/smtp services) - Cyrus (for local/remote pop/imap services) - Spamassassin (anti-spam) - ClamAV (antivirus if using windows stations) - Amavisd-new (I call it the glue because I use it to join all the pieces) I have no webmail (forbidden), e-mail users are stored in a separate database (sasl2db) and are not system users which means no login shell. how you perform basic tasks like mail-ques checking, logs, mail box create, delete, mail restriction .etc.? IIRC, last time I checked years ago, there were some GUI based frontends to perform the usual operations with Cyrus and Postfix (and also webmin has to provide a couple of modules to manage these services) but I still prefer to do it manually -using the command line- because I find it to be more secure and less prone to errors or missconfigurations. Of course, this cannot be suitable for a thousand users configuration but still a valid option for managing a bunch of accounts. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jurk0a$tcf$6...@dough.gmane.org
Re: mail server
On 26.07.2012 16:25, Camaleón wrote: how you perform basic tasks like mail-ques checking, logs, mail box create, delete, mail restriction .etc.? IIRC, last time I checked years ago, there were some GUI based frontends to perform the usual operations with Cyrus and Postfix (and also webmin has to provide a couple of modules to manage these services) but I still prefer to do it manually -using the command line- because I find it to be more secure and less prone to errors or missconfigurations. Of course, I second that. this cannot be suitable for a thousand users configuration but still a valid option for managing a bunch of accounts. BTW: With Wheezy it has become very easy to set up an LDAP-Server. Together with LAM (LDAP Account Manager) it's very easy to maintain even a quite large number of users and their Mailaccounts. But for Muhammads case (20 people) I think I would simple use system users with --shell=/bin/false Bye. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50115cc4.6020...@concepts-and-training.de
Re: mail server
On Jo, 26 iul 12, 10:17:38, Denis Witt wrote: On 25.07.2012 22:14, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: Thanks for letting me know these matters but i am not using it publicly i will be downloading my emails from my hosted mail server. Then you will have to add a tool like fetchmail to your list to download the mails and put them into the local mailboxes. getmail is nice. webmin can handle this quite well, too. Do you mean for administration? Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: mail server
2012/7/25 Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com: need suggestions, i know there are few populer mail servers like postfix, sandmail etc out there. here is some details about my office. 1. 20 users. 2. pop from main server 3. send via SMTP 4. local mail distribution IMAP i am not looking in to easy or hard mail server. what i am looking is it should be good for my carrier and for my office too. secure, stable, web base console etc. btw, i have heard that there is a mailserver called zimbra. but i think debian is not natively supporting it. any help would be appreciable. check iredmail. Easy to install. -- Regards, Umarzuki Mochlis http://debmal.my -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAHW9mbx3hMuBRqx8YrSCnum8Y=z8yt_g9sw7+7si2lto7ux...@mail.gmail.com
Re: mail server
On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 19:58:39 +0800 Umarzuki Mochlis umarz...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/7/25 Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com: need suggestions, i know there are few populer mail servers like postfix, sandmail etc out there. here is some details about my office. 1. 20 users. 2. pop from main server 3. send via SMTP 4. local mail distribution IMAP i am not looking in to easy or hard mail server. what i am looking is it should be good for my carrier and for my office too. secure, stable, web base console etc. btw, i have heard that there is a mailserver called zimbra. but i think debian is not natively supporting it. any help would be appreciable. check iredmail. Easy to install. zimbra mail server ispmail server -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120725175006.6b770...@shiva.selfip.org
Re: mail server
On Jul 25, 2012, at 7:52 AM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: need suggestions, i know there are few populer mail servers like postfix, sandmail etc out there. here is some details about my office. 1. 20 users. 2. pop from main server 3. send via SMTP 4. local mail distribution IMAP i am not looking in to easy or hard mail server. what i am looking is it should be good for my carrier and for my office too. secure, stable, web base console etc. btw, i have heard that there is a mailserver called zimbra. but i think debian is not natively supporting it. any help would be appreciable. Thanks, For a simple feature rich mail server check out citadel. There are packages in Debian. I will easily meet all your needs. It is lighter weight compared to Zimbra with many of the same features. I'm able to run Citadel on a very modest VPS (384MB RAM) along with several hosted websites/email domains. Good Luck, Eric -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cagwvfmk21bvtuvzbxgzvtjgpu-1tscegl-uzgluuupktban...@mail.gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/f1ff7563-ec35-4888-b0b9-b8555ca83...@carry-her.com
Re: mail server
On 25.07.2012 13:52, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: here is some details about my office. 1. 20 users. 2. pop from main server 3. send via SMTP 4. local mail distribution IMAP i am not looking in to easy or hard mail server. what i am looking is it should be good for my carrier and for my office too. secure, stable, web base console etc. btw, i have heard that there is a mailserver called zimbra. but i think debian is not natively supporting it. Hi, you will need at least two things, an SMTP Server (like postfix) and an IMAP/POP3 Server (like dovecot). Over the years I have used many different programs for that, starting with Exim. But now I always use Postfix and Dovecot together with LDAP, Amavis (Spamassassin, ClamAV) and Postgrey. Dovecot is quite easy to set up. Postfix might be a bit trickier, but it is very well documented (and the mailing list is very responsive). Anyway, regardless which server you will choose, please do a lot of research before you launch the server for public use. It is rather easy to set up an open relay anybody could use for sending SPAM. Your IP will be show up on Blacklists and you will have a lot of trouble removing them from those lists. Also it is important not to use a dailup IP, instead you will need a proper static IP with correct rDNS settings. If you don't have that in your office you will have to use a relay server to send mails (external). To have a web based access to your mails I would recommend roundcube. Which is very easy to set up and not too bloated so your users will be fine with that very quickly. If you want a web based console for all the Admin stuff you can use webmin, but usually there is no need for that once the server is up and running. The advance setting up your mail server by hand is that you will get a deeper understanding of what happens in case of problems. Zimbra is more like a black box doing some magic stuff inside. (As fas as I know Zimbra is based on Postfix.) Zimbra is also much more than just an Mailserver, it's more like a collaboration tool like Microsoft Exchange/Outlook. Bye. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/500fe8a9.5000...@concepts-and-training.de
Re: mail server
On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 16:52:25 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: need suggestions, i know there are few populer mail servers like postfix, sandmail etc out there. here is some details about my office. 1. 20 users. 2. pop from main server 3. send via SMTP 4. local mail distribution IMAP i am not looking in to easy or hard mail server. what i am looking is it should be good for my carrier and for my office too. secure, stable, web base console etc. btw, i have heard that there is a mailserver called zimbra. but i think debian is not natively supporting it. Ugh... I would avoid Zimbra as much as I can (nothing against it, is just I don't like all-in-one solutions for mail services I prefer small pieces of software performing a brilliantly work) :-) any help would be appreciable. My ingredients for the recipe: - Fetchmail (or getmail) for polling e-mails form your remote provider - Postfix (for local/remote lmtp/smtp services) - Cyrus (for local/remote pop/imap services) - Spamassassin (anti-spam) - ClamAV (antivirus if using windows stations) - Amavisd-new (I call it the glue because I use it to join all the pieces) I have no webmail (forbidden), e-mail users are stored in a separate database (sasl2db) and are not system users which means no login shell. This setup has been serving me very well during many years and is very flexible and powerful (though not easy to setup) because as it can be expanded to support more users and a different user database backend (e.g., SQL, PAM...). Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jup1ga$ot7$9...@dough.gmane.org
Re: mail server
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 5:21 PM, ew e...@carry-her.com wrote: On Jul 25, 2012, at 7:52 AM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: need suggestions, i know there are few populer mail servers like postfix, sandmail etc out there. here is some details about my office. 1. 20 users. 2. pop from main server 3. send via SMTP 4. local mail distribution IMAP i am not looking in to easy or hard mail server. what i am looking is it should be good for my carrier and for my office too. secure, stable, web base console etc. btw, i have heard that there is a mailserver called zimbra. but i think debian is not natively supporting it. any help would be appreciable. Thanks, For a simple feature rich mail server check out citadel. There are packages in Debian. I will easily meet all your needs. It is lighter weight compared to Zimbra with many of the same features. I'm able to run Citadel on a very modest VPS (384MB RAM) along with several hosted websites/email domains. what is the perpuse of this package are you using it for local office or as a service provider? for how many users you are using this package. if VPS then how you cater the security issues. like open smtp relay. spam control and other security related matters. Good Luck, Eric -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cagwvfmk21bvtuvzbxgzvtjgpu-1tscegl-uzgluuupktban...@mail.gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/f1ff7563-ec35-4888-b0b9-b8555ca83...@carry-her.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cagwvfmm7+-gu3lqcvcnbkb1sl633fh8qz9rxckmg7w3ynrj...@mail.gmail.com
Re: mail server
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Denis Witt denis.w...@concepts-and-training.de wrote: On 25.07.2012 13:52, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: here is some details about my office. 1. 20 users. 2. pop from main server 3. send via SMTP 4. local mail distribution IMAP i am not looking in to easy or hard mail server. what i am looking is it should be good for my carrier and for my office too. secure, stable, web base console etc. btw, i have heard that there is a mailserver called zimbra. but i think debian is not natively supporting it. Hi, you will need at least two things, an SMTP Server (like postfix) and an IMAP/POP3 Server (like dovecot). Over the years I have used many different programs for that, starting with Exim. But now I always use Postfix and Dovecot together with LDAP, Amavis (Spamassassin, ClamAV) and Postgrey. Dovecot is quite easy to set up. Postfix might be a bit trickier, but it is very well documented (and the mailing list is very responsive). Anyway, regardless which server you will choose, please do a lot of research before you launch the server for public use. It is rather easy to set up an open relay anybody could use for sending SPAM. Your IP will be show up on Blacklists and you will have a lot of trouble removing them from those lists. Also it is important not to use a dailup IP, instead you will need a proper static IP with correct rDNS settings. If you don't have that in your office you will have to use a relay server to send mails (external). Thanks for letting me know these matters but i am not using it publicly i will be downloading my emails from my hosted mail server. To have a web based access to your mails I would recommend roundcube. Which is very easy to set up and not too bloated so your users will be fine with that very quickly. If you want a web based console for all the Admin stuff you can use webmin, but usually there is no need for that once the server is up and running. The advance setting up your mail server by hand is that you will get a deeper understanding of what happens in case of problems. Zimbra is more like a black box doing some magic stuff inside. (As fas as I know Zimbra is based on Postfix.) Zimbra is also much more than just an Mailserver, it's more like a collaboration tool like Microsoft Exchange/Outlook. Bye. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/500fe8a9.5000...@concepts-and-training.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAGWVfMnCnU=J=7t2XNdePF9LZG=jq7pdkdphdmvq0dxnwef...@mail.gmail.com
Re: mail server
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 16:52:25 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: need suggestions, i know there are few populer mail servers like postfix, sandmail etc out there. here is some details about my office. 1. 20 users. 2. pop from main server 3. send via SMTP 4. local mail distribution IMAP i am not looking in to easy or hard mail server. what i am looking is it should be good for my carrier and for my office too. secure, stable, web base console etc. btw, i have heard that there is a mailserver called zimbra. but i think debian is not natively supporting it. Ugh... I would avoid Zimbra as much as I can (nothing against it, is just I don't like all-in-one solutions for mail services I prefer small pieces of software performing a brilliantly work) :-) any help would be appreciable. My ingredients for the recipe: - Fetchmail (or getmail) for polling e-mails form your remote provider - Postfix (for local/remote lmtp/smtp services) - Cyrus (for local/remote pop/imap services) - Spamassassin (anti-spam) - ClamAV (antivirus if using windows stations) - Amavisd-new (I call it the glue because I use it to join all the pieces) I have no webmail (forbidden), e-mail users are stored in a separate database (sasl2db) and are not system users which means no login shell. how you perform basic tasks like mail-ques checking, logs, mail box create, delete, mail restriction .etc.? This setup has been serving me very well during many years and is very flexible and powerful (though not easy to setup) because as it can be expanded to support more users and a different user database backend (e.g., SQL, PAM...). Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jup1ga$ot7$9...@dough.gmane.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAGWVfMm7nAeuGsBmeUWcRtcKKnb=Y8Xan1PPt=nvgpyulkm...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Mail server recommendations
On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 08:10:10AM +0530, Abdullah wrote: I want to setup a mailserver on a debian machine. please help me as i have not got a perfect answer by googling. I wuld like to use squirrelmail. please help. First set up a nameserver, see /usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-txt/DNS-HOWTO.gz. Install exim4-daemon-heavy, clamav-daemon, spamassassin and exim4-doc-[html|info]. Copy /usr/share/doc/exim4/examples/example.conf.gz to /etc/exim4/exim4.conf, unzip it and adjust the settings as you need. Check the files regarding the aforementioned packages in /etc/defaults. Install and set up apache2, courier-imap and squirrelmail. You may find that you need a static IP address and DNS entries to successfully send outgoing messages and to retrieve them, and you may want to have a backup MX to receive incoming messages. You can also use a smarthost if you have access to one, and perhaps you want to use fetchmail ... Exim has excellent documentation. There´s no perfect answer about how to set up a mailserver. It can be a very simple thing to do as well as something very complicated. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101102201451.gc29...@yun.yagibdah.de
Re: Mail server recommendations
I want to setup a mailserver on a debian machine. please help me as i have not got a perfect answer by googling. I wuld like to use squirrelmail. please help. On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 5:50 PM, Carlos Mennens carlosw...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: I like Postfix and Dovecot :-) I think Postfix is the best open source MTA available on Linux hands down. I have used Sendmail, Qmail, and Exim and none of them have given me the flexability and security of Postfix. Not to mention it's the easiest thing to configure. The only downfall to Postfix is the mailing list / community. At times their very unsupportive and can make you feel like an idiot for asking good questions. It's not just a matter of 'use Google'... Spamassassin is resource (ram/cpu) consuming and provided that you are not going online (no spam) it could be omitted. I use Spamassassin (spamd) with Amavisd-new which is a great tool and I think developed especially well on Debian over any other distribution. As an alternative to Roundcube (I avoid webmail as much as I can) I would take a look into Squirrel. Squirrelmail to me is dated and featureless in my opinion. Roundcube is the best webmail project available on Linux to date but there are things I wish they would hurry up and add to the features list. Here's my list for all my mail servers: - Postfix - Dovecot - PostgreSQL - Amavisd-new - ClamAV - Spamassassin - Roundcube -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktin2msq-fv0vlkhygnlr7x1ujja6v9dzgoio...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Mail server recommendations
On 26/10/10 13:20, Carlos Mennens wrote: On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Camaleónnoela...@gmail.com wrote: I like Postfix and Dovecot :-) I think Postfix is the best open source MTA available on Linux hands down. I have used Sendmail, Qmail, and Exim and none of them have given me the flexability and security of Postfix. I'll just throw in a counter view here. I currently use Exim - starting from the base as configured by Debian and then tweaked to match my requirements. In particular, I am able to use the flexibility that the Exim system provides (for example) understand the difference between mail for me personally and mail for my business account and put them into different Unix accounts (I use Courier IMAP to provide support to read e-mail) and all this despite using the same name. Another tweak I made is to automatically copy and save all outgoing mail that originated locally. Again a tweak I couldn't find out how to simply do in Postfix. Previously when I ran mailman mailing lists on the same machine, I was able to have Exim handle them automatically (ie no change to the Exim configuration when I added or removed a mailing list). Again, I couldn't find a way with Postfix to set that up. Now I accept that I may not be an expert at Postfix, and as such may have missed the way to achieve the flexibility, but just reading and comparing facilities in the Exim and Postfix documentation has always led me to believe that Exim had the ability to tweak things at much more detail than Postfix. As I said above, I have stuck with Courier IMAP to provide both IMAP (for locally connected computers) and IMAPS for external devices (my iPhone). This has also performed flawlessly for me with the standard configuration provided by Debian. -- Alan Chandler http://www.chandlerfamily.org.uk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cc7df12.6020...@chandlerfamily.org.uk
Re: Mail server recommendations
Postfix + Cyrus + SASL for simple users. You can add spamassassin + pyzor/rzor config your SASL to use LDAP or other auth method. For me postfix + cyrus is just a better combi. On Wednesday, 27 October, 2010 04:13 PM, Alan Chandler wrote: On 26/10/10 13:20, Carlos Mennens wrote: On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Camaleónnoela...@gmail.com wrote: I like Postfix and Dovecot :-) I think Postfix is the best open source MTA available on Linux hands down. I have used Sendmail, Qmail, and Exim and none of them have given me the flexability and security of Postfix. I'll just throw in a counter view here. I currently use Exim - starting from the base as configured by Debian and then tweaked to match my requirements. In particular, I am able to use the flexibility that the Exim system provides (for example) understand the difference between mail for me personally and mail for my business account and put them into different Unix accounts (I use Courier IMAP to provide support to read e-mail) and all this despite using the same name. Another tweak I made is to automatically copy and save all outgoing mail that originated locally. Again a tweak I couldn't find out how to simply do in Postfix. Previously when I ran mailman mailing lists on the same machine, I was able to have Exim handle them automatically (ie no change to the Exim configuration when I added or removed a mailing list). Again, I couldn't find a way with Postfix to set that up. Now I accept that I may not be an expert at Postfix, and as such may have missed the way to achieve the flexibility, but just reading and comparing facilities in the Exim and Postfix documentation has always led me to believe that Exim had the ability to tweak things at much more detail than Postfix. As I said above, I have stuck with Courier IMAP to provide both IMAP (for locally connected computers) and IMAPS for external devices (my iPhone). This has also performed flawlessly for me with the standard configuration provided by Debian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cc81a35.6050...@gmail.com
Re: Mail server recommendations
On 10/26/2010 06:10 AM, B. Alexander wrote: Hi all, I figured I would ask for a sanity check here. I'm looking to replace my internal mail server. Right now, I'm running Zimbra 5.0.x, but I have always run on the low end of the hardware requirements, and now, the box I am running on (2.4 GHz P4, 1GB RAM) is being beaten to death by java in zimbra. Load average always hovers between 3 and 6. Now the mail server, since Comcast blocked port 25, is mainly used for internal monitor/security messages, like ossec and opsview, apticron messages, etc. So I was looking to set up an OpenVZ container, probably sid, as a mailserver with the following: * postfix * dovecot * spamassassin (in case I ever decide to work around the port 25 block) * roundcube for webmail Anyone got any suggestons? Either anything I'm missing or packages that work better? I think that any modern, inexpensive system (dual- or quad-core AMD CPUs running around 3GHz, 4GB RAM) would fit the bill. -- Seek truth from facts. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cc6bc31.1030...@cox.net
Re: Mail server recommendations
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 07:10:33 -0400, B. Alexander wrote: (...) Now the mail server, since Comcast blocked port 25, is mainly used for internal monitor/security messages, like ossec and opsview, apticron messages, etc. So I was looking to set up an OpenVZ container, probably sid, as a mailserver with the following: * postfix * dovecot * spamassassin (in case I ever decide to work around the port 25 block) * roundcube for webmail Anyone got any suggestons? Either anything I'm missing or packages that work better? I like Postfix and Dovecot :-) Spamassassin is resource (ram/cpu) consuming and provided that you are not going online (no spam) it could be omitted. As an alternative to Roundcube (I avoid webmail as much as I can) I would take a look into Squirrel. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.10.26.12.13...@gmail.com
Re: Mail server recommendations
I had considered squirrel, but I'm not in love with the interface. On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 07:10:33 -0400, B. Alexander wrote: (...) Now the mail server, since Comcast blocked port 25, is mainly used for internal monitor/security messages, like ossec and opsview, apticron messages, etc. So I was looking to set up an OpenVZ container, probably sid, as a mailserver with the following: * postfix * dovecot * spamassassin (in case I ever decide to work around the port 25 block) * roundcube for webmail Anyone got any suggestons? Either anything I'm missing or packages that work better? I like Postfix and Dovecot :-) Spamassassin is resource (ram/cpu) consuming and provided that you are not going online (no spam) it could be omitted. As an alternative to Roundcube (I avoid webmail as much as I can) I would take a look into Squirrel. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.10.26.12.13...@gmail.com
Re: Mail server recommendations
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: I like Postfix and Dovecot :-) I think Postfix is the best open source MTA available on Linux hands down. I have used Sendmail, Qmail, and Exim and none of them have given me the flexability and security of Postfix. Not to mention it's the easiest thing to configure. The only downfall to Postfix is the mailing list / community. At times their very unsupportive and can make you feel like an idiot for asking good questions. It's not just a matter of 'use Google'... Spamassassin is resource (ram/cpu) consuming and provided that you are not going online (no spam) it could be omitted. I use Spamassassin (spamd) with Amavisd-new which is a great tool and I think developed especially well on Debian over any other distribution. As an alternative to Roundcube (I avoid webmail as much as I can) I would take a look into Squirrel. Squirrelmail to me is dated and featureless in my opinion. Roundcube is the best webmail project available on Linux to date but there are things I wish they would hurry up and add to the features list. Here's my list for all my mail servers: - Postfix - Dovecot - PostgreSQL - Amavisd-new - ClamAV - Spamassassin - Roundcube -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktin2msq-fv0vlkhygnlr7x=1ujja6v9dzgoio...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Mail server recommendations
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 8:18 AM, B. Alexander stor...@gmail.com wrote: I had considered squirrel, but I'm not in love with the interface. It's dated in appearance and the lack of a back end database is what killed it for me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimksofewosgfkymanvwpqvpkted_r3sjw8xh...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Mail server recommendations
I don't mind keeping my mail in a flat file rather than a db. I guess if I were doing higher volume stuff, it might make a difference, but most of the emails I deal with are read, deal with and delete. On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Carlos Mennens carlosw...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: I like Postfix and Dovecot :-) I think Postfix is the best open source MTA available on Linux hands down. I have used Sendmail, Qmail, and Exim and none of them have given me the flexability and security of Postfix. Not to mention it's the easiest thing to configure. The only downfall to Postfix is the mailing list / community. At times their very unsupportive and can make you feel like an idiot for asking good questions. It's not just a matter of 'use Google'... Spamassassin is resource (ram/cpu) consuming and provided that you are not going online (no spam) it could be omitted. I use Spamassassin (spamd) with Amavisd-new which is a great tool and I think developed especially well on Debian over any other distribution. As an alternative to Roundcube (I avoid webmail as much as I can) I would take a look into Squirrel. Squirrelmail to me is dated and featureless in my opinion. Roundcube is the best webmail project available on Linux to date but there are things I wish they would hurry up and add to the features list. Here's my list for all my mail servers: - Postfix - Dovecot - PostgreSQL - Amavisd-new - ClamAV - Spamassassin - Roundcube -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktin2msq-fv0vlkhygnlr7x1ujja6v9dzgoio...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Mail server recommendations
Hi, I use dovecot, postfix, assp, openfire e egroupware. I'm looking a better webclient like zimbra, but for the backend the is no better over hw efficiency. All this solutions uses ldap as backend for users. Regards.- You don't know where your shadow will fall, Somebody.- Olaf Reitmaier Veracierta (BB) ola...@gmail.com http://olafrv.googlepages.com -Original Message- From: B. Alexander stor...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 07:10:33 To: Debian-user Listdebian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Mail server recommendations Hi all, I figured I would ask for a sanity check here. I'm looking to replace my internal mail server. Right now, I'm running Zimbra 5.0.x, but I have always run on the low end of the hardware requirements, and now, the box I am running on (2.4 GHz P4, 1GB RAM) is being beaten to death by java in zimbra. Load average always hovers between 3 and 6. Now the mail server, since Comcast blocked port 25, is mainly used for internal monitor/security messages, like ossec and opsview, apticron messages, etc. So I was looking to set up an OpenVZ container, probably sid, as a mailserver with the following: * postfix * dovecot * spamassassin (in case I ever decide to work around the port 25 block) * roundcube for webmail Anyone got any suggestons? Either anything I'm missing or packages that work better? Thanks, --b
Re: Mail server recommendations
On Ter, 26 Out 2010, B. Alexander wrote: * roundcube for webmail You could try IMP, part of the Horde suite for e-mail. It's only slightly less ugly than SquirrelMail, but it is extremely powerful feature-wise. -- Use at own risk. Eduardo M KALINOWSKI edua...@kalinowski.com.br -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101026105713.21443roelekt8...@mail.kalinowski.com.br
Re: Mail server recommendations
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 08:18:41 -0400, B. Alexander wrote: On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Camaleón wrote: I like Postfix and Dovecot :-) Spamassassin is resource (ram/cpu) consuming and provided that you are not going online (no spam) it could be omitted. As an alternative to Roundcube (I avoid webmail as much as I can) I would take a look into Squirrel. I had considered squirrel, but I'm not in love with the interface. Okay :-) Besides aesthetics, I would also care about Dovecot (imap server) and webmail compatibility to avoid any problem. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.10.26.13.37...@gmail.com
Re: Mail server recommendations
I think that any modern, inexpensive system (dual- or quad-core AMD CPUs running around 3GHz, 4GB RAM) would fit the bill. OP didnt say how many users would be using it, but it doesn't sound like many considering his existing box. Postfix with things like clamav, spamassiain, webmail, mysql and imap with certificates can easily run on a duel core 2GHz Pentium with 1GB RAM. I have quite a bit of mail running through mine very easily. This is very out of date, and please don't follow it, especially since this is FC10, but you can take some ideas from here http://www.howtoforge.com/virtual-users-domains-postfix-courier-mysql-squirrelmail-fedora-10 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cc6d6d0.5030...@sharescope.co.uk
Re: Mail server recommendations
On 2010-10-26 14:13, Camaleón wrote: * spamassassin (in case I ever decide to work around the port 25 block) spampd is your friend. * roundcube for webmail As an alternative to Roundcube (I avoid webmail as much as I can) I would take a look into Squirrel. RoundCube is simply great. At least this is what my users tell me (a lot, BTW). For people who like to double-click in web apps and do drag and drop because they can't tell the difference between a local app and a web app, RoundCube is THE frontend to use. They try to behave as much as possible like a local app. Users seem to like it. In addition to that, it's actively developed patches that you send get applied very quickly. postfix, spampd, clamav, dovecot and roundcube play together very nicely. Just my 2c. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cc6e233.6060...@worldwideweber.ch
Re: Mail server recommendations
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 16:14:11 +0200, Andreas Weber wrote: On 2010-10-26 14:13, Camaleón wrote: * spamassassin (in case I ever decide to work around the port 25 block) spampd is your friend. AFAIK, spamd comes within SA. * roundcube for webmail As an alternative to Roundcube (I avoid webmail as much as I can) I would take a look into Squirrel. RoundCube is simply great. At least this is what my users tell me (a lot, BTW). For people who like to double-click in web apps and do drag and drop because they can't tell the difference between a local app and a web app, RoundCube is THE frontend to use. They try to behave as much as possible like a local app. Users seem to like it. Users like many things (i.e., Hotmail/Livemail :-P) but and admin has also to care about another things (server requirements, performance, stability and security). And having to setup a SQL database server just for handling e-mail users can be a bit overwhelming and not suitable for small environments. IIRC, Squirrel used to have one or two requirements, but not sure for Roundcube. Can Roundcube run without a backend SQL database? :-? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.10.26.14.42...@gmail.com
Re: Mail server recommendations
On 26/10/10 13:21, Carlos Mennens wrote: On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 8:18 AM, B. Alexanderstor...@gmail.com wrote: I had considered squirrel, but I'm not in love with the interface. It's dated in appearance and the lack of a back end database is what killed it for me. You can connect squirrellmail to sql. You set it up in the config.php page -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cc6eab3.7030...@sharescope.co.uk
Re: Mail server recommendations
On 2010-10-26 16:42, Camaleón wrote: Users like many things (i.e., Hotmail/Livemail :-P) but and admin has also to care about another things (server requirements, performance, stability and security). adminIt's stable, since years and with many concurrent users. And the support efforts for explaining users how to setup client X on their OS Y with firewall problems Z has dramatically decreased. They simply use RoundCube because it comes in so local app alike./admin And having to setup a SQL database server just for handling e-mail users can be a bit overwhelming and not suitable for small environments. IIRC, Squirrel used to have one or two requirements, but not sure for Roundcube. Can Roundcube run without a backend SQL database? :-? If an SQLite file is too big for you, then no. ;-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cc6f82d.8060...@worldwideweber.ch
Re: Mail server recommendations
On 26/10/10 12:10, B. Alexander wrote: Hi all, I figured I would ask for a sanity check here. I'm looking to replace my internal mail server. Right now, I'm running Zimbra 5.0.x, but I have always run on the low end of the hardware requirements, and now, the box I am running on (2.4 GHz P4, 1GB RAM) is being beaten to death by java in zimbra. Load average always hovers between 3 and 6. Now the mail server, since Comcast blocked port 25, is mainly used for internal monitor/security messages, like ossec and opsview, apticron messages, etc. So I was looking to set up an OpenVZ container, probably sid, as a mailserver with the following: * postfix * dovecot * spamassassin (in case I ever decide to work around the port 25 block) * roundcube for webmail Anyone got any suggestons? Either anything I'm missing or packages that work better? I've never had trouble with the Debian default of exim4, so I've never looked around for a replacement. I picked Courier IMAP several years ago, and again have never seen a reason to move. I use webmail only occasionally, so the aesthetics of SquirrelMail are not a problem. I have tried spamassassin, but as others have said, it's a bit of a hog. Or it was when I last ran it, several years ago now. These days I use no subject or content checking at all, just a few SMTP-level tests in addition to exim4's standard DNS and sender checks. It checks just under 3000 blacklisted CIDR blocks, refuses about 20 country codes in HELO and PTR strings, attempts to recognise dynamic IP addresses from the same strings and refuses two or three particularly egregious foreign ISPs. I assume postfix will do the same kind of thing. The email address at the top of this post is genuine, and has existed for over twelve years on the same fixed IP address. I therefore get between 2500 and 5000 SMTP connection attempts a day, of which about 100 are genuine. An average of about 1.5 spams a day make it through to my Inbox, and Icedove spots almost all of them. That's for a couple of seconds of exim4 run time a day, on a dual-2.8G CPU machine with half a gig of RAM. To be honest, the CIDR block checking is a bit of a hobby of mine, and only accounts for about half a dozen spams a day, while the DNS check alone kills about 40% of them and takes a fraction of the time. My ISP uses a commercial anti-spam service, and I check the webmail for that domain every couple of weeks or so to avoid innocent people getting NDR spam, and without any doubt, exim4 does a far better job than their service. -- Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cc6f84d.4010...@jretrading.com
Re: Mail server recommendation
Jesus arteche wrote: Hey, I have to build a mail server in my enterprise, what the solutions do you recomend zimbra, Qmail, Postfix... exim ? Thanks -- Jerome BENOIT jgmbenoit_at_mailsnare_dot_net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Mail server recommendation
On Friday 04 September 2009 11:02:57 Jesus arteche wrote: I have to build a mail server in my enterprise, what the solutions do you recomend zimbra, Qmail, Postfix... I had good experiences with Postfix and bad experiences with Qmail and I don't like Sendmail. But it boils down to this: What MDA you use should depend on the features you need. Other than is probably just a matter of taste and trust. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Mail server recommendation
Jesus arteche: I have to build a mail server in my enterprise, what the solutions do you recomend zimbra, Qmail, Postfix... What exactly do you need? If all you need is an MTA, I propose Postfix or Exim. But since you brought Zimbra into play I suspect you need more than plain mail delivery. So, please be more specific about what you need besides SMTP. Do you need POP/IMAP? Calendar functions? Shared mailboxes? Task tracking? J. -- All participation is a myth. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Mail server recommendation
On Fri, 2009-09-04 at 11:02 +0200, Jesus arteche wrote: I have to build a mail server in my enterprise, what the solutions do you recomend zimbra, Qmail, Postfix... Depends on your needs. I like sendmail, postfix and qmail (the bad, the weird and the ugly ;) Frank -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Mail server recommendation
Am 2009-09-04 11:02:57, schrieb Jesus arteche: Hey, I have to build a mail server in my enterprise, what the solutions do you recomend zimbra, Qmail, Postfix... Supporting only SMTP or IMAP too? I suggest you to use the courier suite because it is secure from scratch and it just works if you use Maildir and ~/Maildir/ as default. Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator 25.9V Electronic Engineer Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # http://www.tamay-dogan.net/ Michelle Konzack http://www.can4linux.org/ Apt. 917 http://www.flexray4linux.org/ 50, rue de Soultz Jabber linux4miche...@jabber.ccc.de 67100 Strabourg/France IRC#Debian (irc.icq.com) Tel. DE: +49 177 9351947 ICQ#328449886 Tel. FR: +33 6 61925193 signature.pgp Description: Digital signature
Re: Mail server recommendation
Jesus arteche wrote: I have to build a mail server in my enterprise, what the solutions do you recomend zimbra, Qmail, Postfix... I've had good success with Postfix (SMTP) + Dovecot (IMAP/POP3) + SpamAssassin (spam filtering) on my personal server, using Dovecot's deliver with the Sieve plugin to deliver mail to individual boxes. - Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Mail server Considerado como SPAM pelo Yahoo
Prezados colegas! Levantei um servidor de e-mail com POSTFIX e já se encontra em produção, todos os usuários enviando e recebendo normalmente para qualquer outro domínio. mas... toda vez que o meu servidor envia qualquer e-mail para o yahoo, este o considera como SPAM colocando-o na pasta Em Massa que é a pasta destinada para os e-mails considerados como SPAM. Coo poderei resolver isto? -- _ Gerente de TI IDT / UFRJ Tels: 2562-2887/2833 Da uma olhada nesses links, devem te ajudar: http://br.antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys/ http://www.enterux.com/en/resources/yahoo-domainkeys-howto-debian Flickr agora em português. Você clica, todo mundo vê. http://www.flickr.com.br/
Re: Mail server Considerado como SPAM pelo Yahoo
Em Quinta 30 Agosto 2007 08:48, Julio Gimenes escreveu: Levantei um servidor de e-mail com POSTFIX e já se encontra em produção, todos os usuários enviando e recebendo normalmente para qualquer outro domínio. mas... toda vez que o meu servidor envia qualquer e-mail para o yahoo, este o considera como SPAM colocando-o na pasta Em Massa que é a pasta destinada para os e-mails considerados como SPAM. Coo poderei resolver isto? Olá Julio! O que você esta usando para conectar esse servidor a Internet? Já me adiantando, sugiro configurar seu Postifix para usar o SMTP do seu provedor ou da empresa que hospeda seu domínio como relay-host. Se seu domínio for hospedado por um servidor seu você deve configurar o DNS reverso. Agora notando seu sobrenome, tenho uns parentes no Rio mas acho que nenhum com nome de Julio. :D -- Cesar Gimenes http://www.crg.eti.br Linux user #76132
Re: mail server for offline system
On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 09:57:49AM -0400, Celejar wrote: On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 22:40:04 +0100 Hans du Plooy wrote: Owen Heisler wrote: Postfix, exim4, or any other decent mail server in Deiban that (preferrably) can be configured easily with will suffice. The server must support Maildir folders, honor the ~/.forward file (perhaps they all do?), and not attempt to deliver non-local messages when a specified interface is down. http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html#dialup And for exim, see this: http://www.exim.org/exim-html-4.40/doc/html/FAQ_14.html Thanks! signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: mail server for offline system
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 22:40:04 +0100 Hans du Plooy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Owen Heisler wrote: Postfix, exim4, or any other decent mail server in Deiban that (preferrably) can be configured easily with will suffice. The server must support Maildir folders, honor the ~/.forward file (perhaps they all do?), and not attempt to deliver non-local messages when a specified interface is down. http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html#dialup And for exim, see this: http://www.exim.org/exim-html-4.40/doc/html/FAQ_14.html Hans Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mail server for offline system
Owen Heisler wrote: Postfix, exim4, or any other decent mail server in Deiban that (preferrably) can be configured easily with will suffice. The server must support Maildir folders, honor the ~/.forward file (perhaps they all do?), and not attempt to deliver non-local messages when a specified interface is down. http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html#dialup Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Mail Server bez domeny - możliwe?
18-05-07, Jarek Buczyński [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisał(a): Witam, Najlepiej pewno byłoby rozdzielić studentów nauczycieli i pocztę w głównej. Jak to właśnie jest z pocztą dla domeny głównej i subdomen czy to znacznie utrudnia konfigurację (są jakieś specjalne mechanizmy do tego tak jak wirtualne hosty w Apacze?) Jak wyglądają sprawa w DNS z rekordami MX ? O co dokładnie Ci chodzi ? Po prostu jak wygląda sprawa poczty w subdomenach np. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] jak widać są dwie różne subdomeny student.uczelnia.pl, nauczyciele.uczelnia.pl itd. jak wygląda mniej więcej taka konfiguracja, chodzi właśnie o domenę główną i subdomeny Konfiguracja jak kazda inna. Tylko w bazie virtual userów podajesz cos w stylu [EMAIL PROTECTED] jannowak [EMAIL PROTECTED] janszeroki Postfix nie rozroznia specjalnie czegos takiego jak domena głowna itd. Ma zbioór wirtualnych domen ktore obsluguje i to wszystko. Ogarnij jakiego tutoriala. Witam. Nie do końca się z tym zgodzę. Postfix bez większych oporów obsługuje takie coś jak domeny i subdomeny wystarczy tylko połączyć postfixa z bazą danych i śmiga jak szalone. Dla przykładu u mnie działa coś takiego: Postfix + PostgreSQL + Amavisd New(trzymający wszystko w bazie PostgreSQL) + SpamAssassin(trzymający wszystko w bazie PostgreSQL) + ClamaV + RoundCube Mail(trzymający wszystko w bazie PostgreSQL). Pozdrawiam chudy
Re: Mail Server bez domeny - możliwe?
18-05-07, Jarek Buczyński [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisał(a):
Witam,
Najlepiej pewno byłoby rozdzielić studentów nauczycieli i pocztę w
głównej.
Jak to właśnie jest z pocztą dla domeny głównej i subdomen czy to znacznie
utrudnia konfigurację (są jakieś specjalne mechanizmy do tego tak jak
wirtualne hosty w Apacze?) Jak wyglądają sprawa w DNS z rekordami MX ?
O co dokładnie Ci chodzi ?
Po prostu jak wygląda sprawa poczty w subdomenach np.
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jak widać są dwie różne subdomeny student.uczelnia.pl,
nauczyciele.uczelnia.pl itd.
jak wygląda mniej więcej taka konfiguracja, chodzi właśnie o domenę główną i
subdomeny
Konfiguracja jak kazda inna. Tylko w bazie virtual userów podajesz cos w stylu
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Postfix nie rozroznia specjalnie czegos takiego jak domena głowna
itd. Ma zbioór wirtualnych domen ktore obsluguje i to wszystko.
Ogarnij jakiego tutoriala.
--
Wojciech Ziniewicz
Unix SEX :{look;gawk;find;sed;talk;grep;touch;finger;find;fl
ex;unzip;head;tail; mount;workbone;fsck;yes;gasp;fsck;more;yes;yes;eje
ct;umount;makeclean; zip;split;done;exit:xargs!!;)}
Re: Mail Server bez domeny - możliwe?
Dnia Fri, 18 May 2007 15:42:26 +0200
Maciej Markowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisał(a):
Witam.
Nie do końca się z tym zgodzę. Postfix bez większych oporów obsługuje takie
coś jak domeny i subdomeny wystarczy tylko połączyć postfixa z bazą danych i
śmiga jak szalone. Dla przykładu u mnie działa coś takiego:
Postfix + PostgreSQL + Amavisd New(trzymający wszystko w bazie PostgreSQL) +
SpamAssassin(trzymający wszystko w bazie PostgreSQL) + ClamaV + RoundCube
Mail(trzymający wszystko w bazie PostgreSQL).
Mowie o bazie danych abstrachując od tego jaka ona jest. Wpis ktory ja mam :
virtual_alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/virtual
oznacza ze moja baza jest haszem i trzeba ją tworzyć za pomocą postmapa.
twoj wpis pewnie wyglada :
virtual_alias_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/virtual
Faktycznie jednak uzywając bazy mysql można lepiej wyskalować wieksze
rozwiązania (kilkaset domen) i jest to o wiele wygodniejsze od edytuwania albo
chociazby parsowania jednego, dwóch plików
pozdr
--
Wojciech Ziniewicz
Unix SEX :{look;gawk;find;sed;talk;grep;touch;finger;find;fl
ex;unzip;head;tail; mount;workbone;fsck;yes;gasp;fsck;more;yes;yes;eje
ct;umount;makeclean; zip;split;done;exit:xargs!!;)}
RE: Mail Server bez domeny - możliwe?
Konfiguracja jak kazda inna. Tylko w bazie virtual userów podajesz cos w stylu [EMAIL PROTECTED] jannowak [EMAIL PROTECTED] janszeroki Postfix nie rozroznia specjalnie czegos takiego jak domena głowna itd. Ma zbioór wirtualnych domen ktore obsluguje i to wszystko. Ogarnij jakiego tutoriala. Dzięki właśnie o to mi chodziło :) Piszesz jeszcze o wirtualnych userach to tez ciekawy temat, ja u siebie jak do tej pory używam systemowych a to dlatego że kont jest malutko jeszcze :) Zawsze mnie zastanawiało jak zsynchronizować te wszystkie hasła, bo zazwyczaj to jest tak zrobione (wiedze na innych serwerach) że zmiana hasła przykładowo przez ssh zmienna hasło do wszystkiego ftp, mail itd. Najprawdopodobniej hasło najlepiej byłoby zmieniać przez WWW a nie ssh? Tylko co wykorzystać? Z tego co pamiętam i już mi kiedyś pisałeś systemowe konta to nie najlepsze rozwiązanie, co byś polecił żeby teraz przejść z tych systemowych, dopóki mama ich mało na wirtualne i żeby mi to wszystko dało się zintegrować jako autoryzacja do ftp, mail i innych w przyszłości? -- Pozdrawiam
RE: Mail Server bez domeny - możliwe?
Nie do końca się z tym zgodzę. Postfix bez większych oporów obsługuje takie coś jak domeny i subdomeny wystarczy tylko połączyć postfixa z bazą danych i śmiga jak szalone. Dla przykładu u mnie działa coś takiego: Postfix + PostgreSQL + Amavisd New(trzymający wszystko w bazie PostgreSQL) + SpamAssassin(trzymający wszystko w bazie PostgreSQL) + ClamaV + RoundCube Mail(trzymający wszystko w bazie PostgreSQL). Czyli widzę że zdania są podzielone :) Mógłbyś coś więcej napisać o Twojej konfiguracji, czym się kierowałeś... może jakieś konkretne www o takiej konfiguracji, właśnie myślę o integracji z bazą, postgresql jak najbardziej -- Pozdrawiam
RE: Mail Server bez domeny - możliwe?
Quoting Jarek Buczyński [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Konfiguracja jak kazda inna. Tylko w bazie virtual userów podajesz cos w stylu [EMAIL PROTECTED] jannowak [EMAIL PROTECTED] janszeroki Postfix nie rozroznia specjalnie czegos takiego jak domena głowna itd. Ma zbioór wirtualnych domen ktore obsluguje i to wszystko. Ogarnij jakiego tutoriala. Dzięki właśnie o to mi chodziło :) Piszesz jeszcze o wirtualnych userach to tez ciekawy temat, ja u siebie jak do tej pory używam systemowych a to dlatego że kont jest malutko jeszcze :) Zawsze mnie zastanawiało jak zsynchronizować te wszystkie hasła, bo zazwyczaj to jest tak zrobione (wiedze na innych serwerach) że zmiana hasła przykładowo przez ssh zmienna hasło do wszystkiego ftp, mail itd. Najprawdopodobniej hasło najlepiej byłoby zmieniać przez WWW a nie ssh? Tylko co wykorzystać? Z tego co pamiętam i już mi kiedyś pisałeś systemowe konta to nie najlepsze rozwiązanie, co byś polecił żeby teraz przejść z tych systemowych, dopóki mama ich mało na wirtualne i żeby mi to wszystko dało się zintegrować jako autoryzacja do ftp, mail i innych w przyszłości? -- Pozdrawiam Witajcie! Ja jakiś czas temu rozważając właśnie dostęp usera do systemu/możliwość podsłuchu hasła np ftp/pop postanowiłem przenieść konta do bazy danych i tak dla każdej usługi można mieć osobne hasło nie trzeba dawać kont systemowych i to lubie. Ja akurat używam MySQL (ale to nie ma znaczenia) z postfixem, pureftpd, courier-popem, courier-imap No i do zmiany hasła wystarczy forumlarz www. Polecam pomyśleć i popracować zanim liczba użytkowników i usług urośnie :) migracja zawsze boli :) pozdrawiam Krzysiek This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: Mail Server bez domeny - możliwe?
18-05-07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisał(a):
Quoting Jarek Buczyński [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Ja jakiś czas temu rozważając właśnie dostęp usera do
systemu/możliwość podsłuchu hasła np ftp/pop postanowiłem przenieść
konta do bazy danych i tak dla każdej usługi można mieć osobne hasło
nie trzeba dawać kont systemowych i to lubie.
moi userzy pop/ftp siedzą w passwd ale nie mogą sie logować
(sshd_config) i mają domyslną powlokę /bin/false
Ja akurat używam MySQL (ale to nie ma znaczenia) z postfixem,
pureftpd, courier-popem, courier-imap
No i do zmiany hasła wystarczy forumlarz www.
Polecam pomyśleć i popracować zanim liczba użytkowników i usług
urośnie :) migracja zawsze boli :)
Racja tylko kto przy mikroskopijnej ilosci 50-100 uzytkowników mysli o
mysqlu ;) .
Osobiscie wszedzie stosowałem autentykacje pocztową / eftepową pam
over mysql lub mysql sam w sobie ,ale doszedłem do wniosku ze na
serwerach gdzie stoi TYLKO ftp.poczta - nie ma po prostu sensu robi c
nic innego niz samo pam. uzywanie mysql to porywanie sie ze tak powiem
z motyką na słonce. natomiast kuiedy mamy
ftp/poczte/portal/crm/voip/cholerawiecojeszcze no to wiadomo ze jakas
ladna relacyjna bazka (ewentualnie ldap) by sie przydala.
pozdr
--
Wojciech Ziniewicz
Unix SEX :{look;gawk;find;sed;talk;grep;touch;finger;find;fl
ex;unzip;head;tail; mount;workbone;fsck;yes;gasp;fsck;more;yes;yes;eje
ct;umount;makeclean; zip;split;done;exit:xargs!!;)}
Re: Mail Server bez domeny - możliwe?
Jak doniosły WSI, dnia Fri, 18 May 2007 18:12:03 +0200 Wojciech Ziniewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisał(a): 18-05-07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisał(a): Quoting Jarek Buczyński [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ja jakiś czas temu rozważając właśnie dostęp usera do systemu/możliwość podsłuchu hasła np ftp/pop postanowiłem przenieść konta do bazy danych i tak dla każdej usługi można mieć osobne hasło nie trzeba dawać kont systemowych i to lubie. moi userzy pop/ftp siedzą w passwd ale nie mogą sie logować (sshd_config) i mają domyslną powlokę /bin/false Ja akurat używam MySQL (ale to nie ma znaczenia) z postfixem, pureftpd, courier-popem, courier-imap No i do zmiany hasła wystarczy forumlarz www. Polecam pomyśleć i popracować zanim liczba użytkowników i usług urośnie :) migracja zawsze boli :) Racja tylko kto przy mikroskopijnej ilosci 50-100 uzytkowników mysli o mysqlu ;) . Osobiscie wszedzie stosowałem autentykacje pocztową / eftepową pam over mysql lub mysql sam w sobie ,ale doszedłem do wniosku ze na serwerach gdzie stoi TYLKO ftp.poczta - nie ma po prostu sensu robi c nic innego niz samo pam. uzywanie mysql to porywanie sie ze tak powiem z motyką na słonce. natomiast kuiedy mamy ftp/poczte/portal/crm/voip/cholerawiecojeszcze no to wiadomo ze jakas ladna relacyjna bazka (ewentualnie ldap) by sie przydala. pozdr Witam, OT: nie wiem o jakich zapotrzebowaniach mówicie, ale generalnie polecam uslugi katalogowe (LDAP) z jakimś sensownym backendem zoptymalizowanym do odczytu - np SleepyCat BerkeleyDB. Po prostu SQL (My/Postgre) w wysoko obciążonych systemach autoryzacji jest wooolny. Oczywiście jeśli chcemy mieć WSZYSTKO w jednym miejscu i ilość userów na to pozwoli to mogą być bazy SQL-owe - możemy wtedy oprócz haseł umiescić w nich np. listę kontaktów jabbera :) W każdym razie - do samej autoryzacji, synchronizacji haseł itp. polecam bardziej LDAP'a (+ pam_ldap + ssl + kerberos + co tam sobie jeszcze można wymyślić :) ). Pozdr. sm0q
RE: Mail Server bez domeny - możliwe?
-Original Message- From: Jarek Buczyński [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 4:38 PM To: 'Maciej Markowski'; 'Debian-User-Polish List' Subject: RE: Mail Server bez domeny - możliwe? Nie do końca się z tym zgodzę. Postfix bez większych oporów obsługuje takie coś jak domeny i subdomeny wystarczy tylko połączyć postfixa z bazą danych i śmiga jak szalone. Dla przykładu u mnie działa coś takiego: Postfix + PostgreSQL + Amavisd New(trzymający wszystko w bazie PostgreSQL) + SpamAssassin(trzymający wszystko w bazie PostgreSQL) + ClamaV + RoundCube Mail(trzymający wszystko w bazie PostgreSQL). Czyli widzę że zdania są podzielone :) Mógłbyś coś więcej napisać o Twojej konfiguracji, czym się kierowałeś... może jakieś konkretne www o takiej konfiguracji, właśnie myślę o integracji z bazą, postgresql jak najbardziej -- Pozdrawiam Co do konfiguracji to tak: Postfix trzyma te same dane w PostgreSQL co w mySQL. Wszystko jest tak samo jak w mySQL np.: virtual_mailbox_maps = pgsql:/etc/postfix/pgsql_virtual_mailbox_maps.cf poczym w pliku masz: user = uzytkownik password = haslo hosts = localhost dbname = postfix table = mailbox select_field = maildir where_field = username Jedyna rzecz jaką dodałem a znalazłem przez przypadek na jednej stronie WWW to: loginmismatch. Oto zastosowanie: smtpd_sender_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, reject_non_fqdn_sender, reject_unknown_sender_domain, reject_sender_login_mismatch smtpd_sender_login_maps = pgsql:/etc/postfix/pgsql_loginmismatch.cf sint1 postfix # cat pgsql_loginmismatch.cf user = uzytkownik password = haslo hosts = localhost dbname = postfix table = alias select_field = goto where_field = address Co to daje? Otóż oprócz tego, że standartowo mogą użytkownicy wysyłać e-mail'e tylko ze swojego konta to jeszcze ze swoich alias'ow. Co za tym idzie nie mogą sobie wysłać poczty z konta [EMAIL PROTECTED] ponieważ nie są właścicielem tego konta i nie jest to ich alias. Co do Amavisd i Spamassassin'a to info o integracji z bazą danych to znalazłem: Amavisd - plik bodajże readme w źródłach. Spamassassin - strona z dokumentacją. Czym się kierowałem? Hmmm podstawą było to, że podczas stawiania na drugim komputerze postfixa z Amavisd + Spamassassin'em nie chciała się tak pięknie przerzucić baza z tym co się nauczył spamassassin. Dlatego wrzuciłem go do bazy. Postfix wylądował w bazie po to by móc założyć konta e-mailowe bez zakładania kont systemowych. Dalej to się przydało do integracji ftp'a z PostgreSQL'em gdzie też oprócz login i hasło są ustawiane limity takie jak: Ograniczenie prędkości ściągania i wysyłania. Ratio na upload i download Quota na ilość miejsca i wielkość plików. Jeżeli będzie potrzebna pomoc z tym co opisałem to jak najbardziej służę i wiedzą i pomocą Pozdrawiam chudy
RE: Mail Server bez domeny - możliwe?
Witam, Najlepiej pewno byłoby rozdzielić studentów nauczycieli i pocztę w głównej. Jak to właśnie jest z pocztą dla domeny głównej i subdomen czy to znacznie utrudnia konfigurację (są jakieś specjalne mechanizmy do tego tak jak wirtualne hosty w Apacze?) Jak wyglądają sprawa w DNS z rekordami MX ? O co dokładnie Ci chodzi ? Po prostu jak wygląda sprawa poczty w subdomenach np. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] jak widać są dwie różne subdomeny student.uczelnia.pl, nauczyciele.uczelnia.pl itd. jak wygląda mniej więcej taka konfiguracja, chodzi właśnie o domenę główną i subdomeny -- Pozdrawiam
Re: Mail Server bez domeny - możliwe?
Dnia Wed, 16 May 2007 14:37:11 +0200
Jarek Buczyński [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisał(a):
Witam,
Czy możliwe jest uruchomienie serwera poczty (myślę o postfixie) bez domeny
tylko na adresie IP jeżeli tak to z czy się to może wiązać (problemy)? Wiem
że w DNS są rekordy MX wskazujące na wymiennik poczty dla danej domeny, ale
w takim przypadku musi być domena a jak jest tylko IP?
a do czego ci to potrzebne ?
opisz dokladniej problem bo jest to mozliwe , ale pod kilkoma zastrzeżeniami.
p.s. Najłatwiej uzyc dyndnsa z rekordem MX ;)
pozdr
--
Wojciech Ziniewicz
Unix SEX :{look;gawk;find;sed;talk;grep;touch;finger;find;fl
ex;unzip;head;tail; mount;workbone;fsck;yes;gasp;fsck;more;yes;yes;eje
ct;umount;makeclean; zip;split;done;exit:xargs!!;)}
RE: Mail Server bez domeny - możliwe?
a do czego ci to potrzebne ? opisz dokladniej problem bo jest to mozliwe , ale pod kilkoma zastrzeżeniami. Po prostu chciałbym uruchomić taki serwer, najpierw testowo, żeby zapoznać się z konfiguracją postfix'a na prywatnym IP w LAN'ie (można to tak zrobić?), później na publicznym IP ale już z domeną. Założyć kilka kont i wysyłać pocztę :-) -- Pozdrawiam
Re: Mail Server bez domeny - możliwe?
16-05-07, Jarek Buczyński [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisał(a):
a do czego ci to potrzebne ?
opisz dokladniej problem bo jest to mozliwe , ale pod kilkoma
zastrzeżeniami.
Po prostu chciałbym uruchomić taki serwer, najpierw testowo, żeby zapoznać
się z konfiguracją postfix'a na prywatnym IP w LAN'ie (można to tak
zrobić?), później na publicznym IP ale już z domeną. Założyć kilka kont i
wysyłać pocztę :-)
To na razie załóż postfixa, courier-pop, courier-imap , włącza tls i
sasl i pobaw sie tylko lokalnie . Jak dostaniesz kilka forwardów od
swojego internetodawcy ( 25 smtp, 110 pop, 143 imap itd) to pobawisz
sie na publicznym adresie z DynDnsem . Na tym etapie wysyłanie lokalne
tak na prawde rozni sie niewiele od wysylania w swiat ;)
--
Wojciech Ziniewicz
Unix SEX :{look;gawk;find;sed;talk;grep;touch;finger;find;fl
ex;unzip;head;tail; mount;workbone;fsck;yes;gasp;fsck;more;yes;yes;eje
ct;umount;makeclean; zip;split;done;exit:xargs!!;)}
RE: Mail Server bez domeny - możliwe?
To na razie załóż postfixa, courier-pop, courier-imap , włącza tls i sasl i pobaw sie tylko lokalnie . Czyli mówisz że jest to możliwe do zrobienia w LAN'ie, dzieki Jak dostaniesz kilka forwardów od swojego internetodawcy ( 25 smtp, 110 pop, 143 imap itd) to pobawisz sie na publicznym adresie z DynDnsem . Będę miał publiczne IP czyli nie będzie potrzebne forwardowanie. Na tym etapie wysyłanie lokalne tak na prawde rozni sie niewiele od wysylania w swiat ;) Pewno tak ale to lokalne chyba nie powinno spamu łapać :D Jak już przy tym jestem to jeszcze zastanawia mnie taka sprawa, przykładowo w apache bez DNS czyli tylko na IP nie możan zrobić subdomen czyli wirtualnych hostów. A jak to wygląda w przypadku poczty, sytuacja będzie taka domena główna np. uczelnia.pl i subdomeny student.uczelnia.pl, nauczyciel.uczelnia.pl Najlepiej pewno byłoby rozdzielić studentów nauczycieli i pocztę w głównej. Jak to właśnie jest z pocztą dla domeny głównej i subdomen czy to znacznie utrudnia konfigurację (są jakieś specjalne mechanizmy do tego tak jak wirtualne hosty w Apacze?) Jak wyglądają sprawa w DNS z rekordami MX ? -- Pozdrawiam
Re: Mail Server bez domeny - możliwe?
Dnia Wed, 16 May 2007 22:29:06 +0200
Jarek Buczyński [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisał(a):
Jak już przy tym jestem to jeszcze zastanawia mnie taka sprawa, przykładowo
w apache bez DNS czyli tylko na IP nie możan zrobić subdomen czyli
wirtualnych hostów.
nie mozna - vhosty działają dzieki requestom HTTP a te uzywają nazwy domenowej.
no chyba ze uzyjesz IP address based virtual hostów i bedziesz definiować vhost
dla kazdego adresu IP , w lanie jest sens, w sieci - nie za bardzo kieduy masz
200,300 albo 1000 vhostów .
A jak to wygląda w przypadku poczty, sytuacja będzie taka domena główna np.
uczelnia.pl i subdomeny student.uczelnia.pl, nauczyciel.uczelnia.pl
przejrzyj tutorial jakiś. wszystkie opcje z virtual w main.cf beda cie
interesowac.
np. najwazniejsza jest wirtualna mapa userów czyli np : virtual_alias_maps =
hash:/etc/postfix/virtual
wyglada to np tak :
[EMAIL PROTECTED] $ tail -1 /etc/postfix/virtual
[EMAIL PROTECTED]weronika
Najlepiej pewno byłoby rozdzielić studentów nauczycieli i pocztę w głównej.
Jak to właśnie jest z pocztą dla domeny głównej i subdomen czy to znacznie
utrudnia konfigurację (są jakieś specjalne mechanizmy do tego tak jak
wirtualne hosty w Apacze?) Jak wyglądają sprawa w DNS z rekordami MX ?
jak powinien wygladac DNS latwo sprawdzić, bierzemy jakikolwiek losowy adres,
np gryf.pl :
[EMAIL PROTECTED] $ host -a gryf.pl
blablalbalba
gryf.pl SOA ns1.aidahosting.com root.s74.superhost.pl (
2007051400 ;serial (version)
86400 ;refresh period (1 day)
7200;retry interval (2 hours)
360 ;expire time (5 weeks, 6 days, 16 hours)
86400 ;default ttl (1 day)
)
/blalblabla
gryf.pl A 212.162.20.174
gryf.pl MX 0 gryf.pl informacja o tym ze mail
exchangerem dla tej stronki ma byc host gryf.pl - rownie dobrze oczywoscie
mogloby to być smtp.gmail.com i mejle zamiast do gryf.pl dochodziłyby do
gmail.com (ktory oczywiscie by tego nie odebrał bo nie ma tego w ich postfixie
pod parametrem virtual_alias_domains = )
to tyle,
mam nadzieję ze pomogłem, sam spędziłęm dużo czasu zeby te wszystkie MXy,
spamassasiny, amavisy, dnsy, spfy i takie inne poskładać do kupy
pozdr
--
Wojciech Ziniewicz
Unix SEX :{look;gawk;find;sed;talk;grep;touch;finger;find;fl
ex;unzip;head;tail; mount;workbone;fsck;yes;gasp;fsck;more;yes;yes;eje
ct;umount;makeclean; zip;split;done;exit:xargs!!;)}
Re: mail server
Please remember to reply to the list so that everyone can benefit from
our discussion of the issue.
On Mon, 2006-10-23 at 01:34 -0700, George Adamides wrote:
You are right by question is too broad and I apologize for that. Well
basically I installed xoops (a content management system
www.xoops.org ) which allows users to register. Upon registration a
mail should be sent to the user to inform him about his registration.
I noticed that when I tried to registered I did not receive an email.
So I assumed that, since while installing debian I did not specify or
configured any mail server, I should either find out how to configure
a mail server or if mail server is already installed in debian.
I hope my question makes sence.
The first step is obviously to see if exim can send you mail _without_
xoops being involved.
$ echo 'Foo!' | mail -s 'this is a test.' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Also, you could probably get some more information by checking your mail
logs in /var/log/exim4/{mainlog,errorlog}
If you're not sure how exim was set up at installation, try doing:
$ dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config
For simple set ups, this should get you a working mail setup.
-davidc
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Re: mail server
On Fri, 2006-10-20 at 00:11 -0700, George Adamides wrote: hello how do i setup a mail server in debian? That's a pretty broad question. Please read the following: http://www.mikeash.com/getting_answers.html Debian comes with a mail server installed. Perhaps you could explain what you are trying to accomplish, what you have tried already, and the problems you are having. As far as I can tell, you haven't put any effort into this yet. If you haven't, why should we? -davidc -- gpg-key: http://www.zettazebra.com/files/key.gpg signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: mail server
On Fri, 2006-10-20 at 00:11 -0700, George Adamides wrote: hello how do i setup a mail server in debian? That's a pretty broad question. Please read the following: http://www.mikeash.com/getting_answers.html Also, if you're in a hurry and can't be bothered, try following this link http://www.shupp.org/toaster/index.php -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Fri, Oct 20, 2006 at 12:11:23AM -0700, George Adamides wrote: hello how do i setup a mail server in debian? Hi George, first you determine which one you want to install then you attempt to install it with 'apt-get' or 'aptitude' then when you have errors or questions, you ask here. Kev -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal | debian.home.pipeline.com | | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keysever: pgp.mit.edu | my NPO: cfsg.org | signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: mail server
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/20/06 02:11, George Adamides wrote: hello how do i setup a mail server in debian? exim is already installed my default. Is this a departmental mail server, or what? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Is common sense really valid? For example, it is common sense to white-power racists that whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins are mud people. However, that common sense is obviously wrong. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFOI85S9HxQb37XmcRAjl8AJ4jp1r8jtJCthJRBDG7XqSlkOFAvgCgzIEa 02FLzP7+RyOWmQvMzn2+pjg= =xyws -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Fri, Oct 20, 2006 at 02:58:22AM -0700, George Adamides wrote: hi and thanks for the reply. which one would you suggest? - Original Message From: Kevin Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 10:37:26 AM Subject: Re: mail server On Fri, Oct 20, 2006 at 12:11:23AM -0700, George Adamides wrote: hello how do i setup a mail server in debian? Hi George, first you determine which one you want to install then you attempt to install it with 'apt-get' or 'aptitude' then when you have errors or questions, you ask here. Kev -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal | debian.home.pipeline.com | | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-_h_t_t_p_:_/_/_w_w_w_._d_e_b_i_a_n_._o_r_g_/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keysever: pgp.mit.edu | my NPO: cfsg.org | Hi George, if you install Debian, 99% you will end up with the Default mail server, Exim 4 (light server). If you follow the default 'debconf' message, if should be setup for normal use. When you finish the basic install (using cd#1 and cd#2, or the netinstaller or what ever you use), ask more question on the list if you dont understand the question. cheers, Kev ps. it is proper netiquette to keep your replys on the list unless you are sending a person message. Everyone can help them! -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal | debian.home.pipeline.com | | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keysever: pgp.mit.edu | my NPO: cfsg.org | signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Mail server setup
Hi Asif On (09/04/06 16:09), Asif wrote: Thanks for the reply. I appreciate your comments and the help given so far. I've been working on the configuration today and going by your documentation and other readme's have got to a further stage than I have ever done. I've installed Thunderbird and I get authenticated and can even send emails. However, the never seem to get delivered to the addresses I send to. Also, when I send to the email address they never get delivered in my inbox on the debian machine. Using Webmin, it shows a queue of all the msgs being held. The log in /var/log/mail.log shows: connect to 81.86.129.218[81.86.129.218]: Connection timed out) Apr 9 16:03:51 localhost postfix/smtp[1282]: E7E891BFC1: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=none, delay=5596, status=deferred (c onnect to 81.86.129.218[81.86.129.218]: Connection timed out) Apr 9 16:03:51 localhost postfix/smtp[1286]: 410BF1BFC0: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=none, delay=6181, status=deferred ( connect to 81.86.129.218[81.86.129.218]: Connection timed out) Apr 9 16:03:51 localhost postfix/smtp[1287]: 305CD1BFBF: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=none, delay=8119, status=deferred ( connect to 81.86.129.218[81.86.129.218]: Connection timed out) Apr 9 16:03:51 localhost postfix/smtp[1285]: A60EF1BFC2: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=none, delay=4754, status=defer red (connect to 81.86.129.218[81.86.129.218]: Connection timed out) Apr 9 16:03:51 localhost postfix/qmgr[1280]: A665B1BFC4: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=none, delay=1620, status=deferred ( delivery temporarily suspended: connect to 81.86.129.218[81.86.129.218]: Connection timed out) Apr 9 16:03:51 localhost postfix/qmgr[1280]: 5E2881BFC3: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=none, delay=4650, status=deferred (d elivery temporarily suspended: connect to 81.86.129.218[81.86.129.218]: Connection timed out) The output from postconf -n is: debian:/var/log# postconf -n alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases append_dot_mydomain = no biff = no config_directory = /etc/postfix inet_interfaces = all mailbox_command = procmail -a $EXTENSION mailbox_size_limit = 10 maximal_backoff_time = 40s maximal_queue_lifetime = 1d minimal_backoff_time = 10s mydestination = flags4sale.com, localhost.localdomain, localhost.localdomain, localhost myhostname = localhost.localdomain mynetworks = 81.86.129.218, 82.148.56.154/29, 192.168.1.0/24, 127.0.0.0/8 myorigin = /etc/mailname queue_run_delay = 10s recipient_delimiter = + relayhost = 81.86.129.218 smtpd_banner = $myhostname ESMTP $mail_name (Debian/GNU) smtpd_client_restrictions = permit_mynetworks The difference between this and my setup is you're using postfix rather than exim. It's not a problem other than I've never used it. I'm cc'ing this to debian-user; someone there may be able to spot the problem right away. Note; The 81.86.129.218 ip is my home ip address. The 82.148.56.154 ip is the ip of the debian machine. All help again would be greatly appreciated. Here's hoping someone on d-u can point you in the right direction. Regards Clive -- www.clivemenzies.co.uk ... ...strategies for business -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mail-Server Umstellung
Harald Weidner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] expand_owner_alias = yes Cool, den kannte ich noch nicht. Gruß, Sebastian -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: Mail-Server Umstellung
Hallo, Christoph Haas schrieb: http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/ Vielen Dank für den Link. Der ist spitze. Ich suche auch seit langem eine etwas detailiertere Einrichtungsbeschreibung. Christoph Grüße, Claus -- Claus Malter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: http://claus.freakempire.de Web: http://freakempire.de ICQ: 105226435 GnuPG-ID: 0xC252C3D0 http://wwwkeys.de.pgp.net -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: Mail-Server Umstellung
Joachim Protze [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nico Jochens schrieb: [...] Mailman mit Postfix übertrieben. Bei Postfix geht das mit /etc/aliases und dann auf Textfiles oder eine Datenbank verweisen recht Klasse: listenname: :include:/etc/postfix/lists/listenname Wer bekommt eventuelle Bounces? Sebastian -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: Mail-Server Umstellung
Hallo, Sebastian Niehaus [EMAIL PROTECTED]: listenname: :include:/etc/postfix/lists/listenname Wer bekommt eventuelle Bounces? In diesem Fall der Autor der Mail. Es ist aber möglich, in der /etc/aliases dafür zu sorgen, dass die Envelope-Absender bei Mailinglisten umgeschrieben werden. Dazu muss in die main.cf die Zeile expand_owner_alias = yes eingetragen werden. Sie bewirkt, dass z.B. folgende Einträge listenname: :include:/etc/postfix/lists/listenname owner-listenname: listenname-request listenname-request: listmaster bewirken, dass Mails an listenname beim Verteilen an die Adressen aus /etc/postfix/lists/listenname den Envelope-Absender [EMAIL PROTECTED] bekommen. Bounces gehen an diese Adresse und werden somit an listmaster weitergeleitet. Gruß, Harald -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: Mail-Server Umstellung
On Wed, 2 Nov 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ich habe mal eine Frage zu Mail-server, IMAP-server usw. Im Augenblick habe ich noch ein Qmail + Vpopmail + Courier-Imap auf meinem Server laufen. Doch der Courier unterstützt ja kein Sieve Protokoll und ich wollte auf Cyrus-imap umsteigen. Ich migriere auch gerade meinen Mailserver von Courier auf Cyrus. Hier ein paar HOWTOs: http://wiki.ev-15.com/debian:mail_system http://www.exim.org/eximwiki/CyrusImap Als MTA verwende ich seit längerer Zeit Exim, bin sehr zufrieden. Gruss, -- Christian Fromme Mail: kaner at strace.org GPG: 9DE5E8B9 If you seek the kernel, then you must break the shell. (Meister Eckhart)
Re: Mail-Server Umstellung
On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 08:28:14PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Ich habe mal eine Frage zu Mail-server, IMAP-server usw. Gerne Im Augenblick habe ich noch ein Qmail + Vpopmail + Courier-Imap auf meinem Server laufen. Doch der Courier unterstützt ja kein Sieve Protokoll und ich wollte auf Cyrus-imap umsteigen. 1. Was würdet ihr fuer einen MTA empfehlen? bei Qmail bleiben? Postfix? Sendmail? Postfix 2. Der MTA muss virtuelle Adressen verwalten koennen, die ich dann auch mit Cyrus-imap abholen kann. Und das nicht für jede Mail-Adresse ein lokaler Account angelegt werden muss. Postfix 3. Spammassasin und Virenscanner sollten sich integrieren lassen. Postfix 4. Maillisten Unterstuetzung waere schoen muss aber nicht sein Mailman mit Postfix Vielleicht hat ja auch jemand ne gute howto in Moeglicherweise deutscher Sprache zu diesem Thema. Hab selbst schon gegoogelt und nix gutes gefunden. Google nach Postfix, da findest du massenhaft. Außerdem gibt es die Mailingliste [EMAIL PROTECTED], eine sehr gute deutschsprachige Liste. Grueße Alex schöne Grüße aus Norderstedt Nico -- It`s not a trick...it`s Linux! | web: www.linico.de ---°°--- | mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nico Jochens -- MCSE CNA| Registered Linux User #313928 HamburgGermany | PGP-Signature: kommt noch
Re: Mail-Server Umstellung
On Wednesday 02 November 2005 20:28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ich habe mal eine Frage zu Mail-server, IMAP-server usw. Im Augenblick habe ich noch ein Qmail + Vpopmail + Courier-Imap auf meinem Server laufen. Doch der Courier unterstützt ja kein Sieve Protokoll und ich wollte auf Cyrus-imap umsteigen. 1. Was würdet ihr fuer einen MTA empfehlen? bei Qmail bleiben? Postfix? Sendmail? 2. Der MTA muss virtuelle Adressen verwalten koennen, die ich dann auch mit Cyrus-imap abholen kann. Und das nicht für jede Mail-Adresse ein lokaler Account angelegt werden muss. 3. Spammassasin und Virenscanner sollten sich integrieren lassen. 4. Maillisten Unterstuetzung waere schoen muss aber nicht sein Vielleicht hat ja auch jemand ne gute howto in Moeglicherweise deutscher Sprache zu diesem Thema. Hab selbst schon gegoogelt und nix gutes gefunden. http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/ Christoph -- |\ _,,,---,,_Famous last words of a sysadmin: /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_We'll do the backup tomorrow. |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' '---''(_/--' `-'\_)
Re: Mail-Server Umstellung
Am Mittwoch, 2. November 2005 21:30 schrieb Nico Jochens: 3. Spammassasin und Virenscanner sollten sich integrieren lassen. Postfix Du meinst doch eher amavis-new. schöne Grüße aus Norderstedt Beste Grüsse aus HH-Niendorf, ich werde demnächst wohl doch mal bei eurer LuG auftauchen. ;-) -- Mfg, Michael
Re: Mail-Server Umstellung
Nico Jochens schrieb: On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 08:28:14PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 4. Maillisten Unterstuetzung waere schoen muss aber nicht sein hört sich für mich nach ein paar kleineren Verteilern an und da ist in meinen Augen Mailman mit Postfix übertrieben. Bei Postfix geht das mit /etc/aliases und dann auf Textfiles oder eine Datenbank verweisen recht Klasse: listenname: :include:/etc/postfix/lists/listenname Grüße Joachim
Re: Mail-Server Umstellung
On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 11:41:03PM +0100, Micha Beyer wrote: Am Mittwoch, 2. November 2005 21:30 schrieb Nico Jochens: 3. Spammassasin und Virenscanner sollten sich integrieren lassen. Postfix Du meinst doch eher amavis-new. Ja, im Zusammanspiel mit Postfix und wenn dann bitte amavisd-new;-) schöne Grüße aus Norderstedt Beste Grüsse aus HH-Niendorf, ich werde demnächst wohl doch mal bei eurer LuG auftauchen. ;-) Mach das, ist ja nicht soo weit. Michael immer noch schöne Grüße aus Norderstedt Nico -- It`s not a trick...it`s Linux! | web: www.linico.de ---°°--- | mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nico Jochens -- MCSE CNA| Registered Linux User #313928 HamburgGermany | PGP-Signature: kommt noch
Re: mail server replacement for qmail/vpopmail
On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 05:54:10PM +0300, Haim Ashkenazi wrote: Hi I'm trying to find replacement for qmail/vpopmail (that is, mail server with virtual domains and non-system users). the reason I'm doing that is that I'm installing many servers with this configuration, and doing it from source is a lot of work (installing and searching for security updates). I want to do it with the packages that comes with sarge. I would personally recommend postfix. I thought of using postfix with courier or cyrus. the cyrus package is still at version 2.1 which doesn't support virtual domains (or does it?), so I'm left with courier. If you use courier and have many users , you will want a databse lookup for users. PostgreSQL is the best way to go there. You will need the postfix-pgsql and courier-authpostgresql packages, at least. Of course, you could backport cyrus2.2 to Sarge or find a suitable backport out there. If you will have many thousands of users and you are the full time admin of the server, I would definitely recommend cyrus. It very nicely handles extremely large setups. I read a lot of howto's but I can't find a solution to this problem: some users need server side filtering (e.g. 'mailfilter' file in the virtual users directory). in qmail/vpopmail I just put a line in the .qmail file under the users directory. how do I do that in postfix/courier? Not sure about that. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto pgpqu6BbpfN5m.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mail server
The license for qmail prohibits the distribution of it in binary form except in it's pure state. The qmailrocks installation patches the pure qmail source to add additional functionality and thus cannot be distrbuted in binary form. Also, the debian package for courier-auth does not include the vchkpw module which is required for some of the functionality in the qmailrocks install. One piece of advice on the installation. Watch very carefully the parts that detail ownership of files and what accounts certain processes should run as. If you have problems getting it to run after you've got it setup, look there first. Good luck. Craig Russell askar k wrote: I don't know about one for postifx but the qmailrocks website has step by step instructions as well as a very active mailing list that is extrememly helpful for mail related issues. The installation instructions do cover spamassassin, clamd, squirrelmail, sql back-end, ssl-secured smtp and pop auth, as well as more. http://www.qmailrocks.org/ I've got a mailserver running on debian using this installation and it is stable, fast, and secure (as secure as any publicly facing server can be). Craig Russell AirDigitalNetwork.com Finally I finished with shorewall stuff and I'm beginning with setting up mail server explained at http://www.qmailrocks.org/ I noticed the Debian installation guide shows the way of installation from the source, not using apt-get install ... Personally I'm OK with that, I just want to confirm, in http://www.qmailrocks.org/ showed the way of installation mail server from the source. Am I correct? thanks, askar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Thanks to everybody for information on mail server. Sincerely, askar On 7/2/05, askar k [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. Is there step-by-step guide on building a mail server postfix+spamassassin+clamavd+etc... on the internet? thanks, askar
Re: mail server
askar k wrote: Hello. Is there step-by-step guide on building a mail server postfix+spamassassin+clamavd+etc... on the internet? thanks, askar I don't know about one for postifx but the qmailrocks website has step by step instructions as well as a very active mailing list that is extrememly helpful for mail related issues. The installation instructions do cover spamassassin, clamd, squirrelmail, sql back-end, ssl-secured smtp and pop auth, as well as more. http://www.qmailrocks.org/ I've got a mailserver running on debian using this installation and it is stable, fast, and secure (as secure as any publicly facing server can be). Craig Russell AirDigitalNetwork.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mail server
On Saturday 02 July 2005 18:32, askar k wrote: Is there step-by-step guide on building a mail server postfix+spamassassin+clamavd+etc... on the internet? http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/ Regards, Anders Breindahl. pgpqMRVA1CVfO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mail server
On Sat, Jul 02, 2005 at 01:13:12PM -0400, Craig Russell wrote: askar k wrote: Is there step-by-step guide on building a mail server postfix+spamassassin+clamavd+etc... on the internet? And is there a step-by-step guide on building a mail server using exim4? -- Regards, Paul --- Debian Junior Project :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Saturday 02 July 2005 17:32, askar k wrote: Hello. Is there step-by-step guide on building a mail server postfix+spamassassin+clamavd+etc... on the internet? thanks, askar hello askar, Here is a link for postfix and mysql http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail/ all the best peter colton -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mail server
On (02/07/05 19:03), Csanyi Pal wrote: To: Debian User debian-user@lists.debian.org From: Csanyi Pal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 19:03:42 +0200 Subject: Re: mail server On Sat, Jul 02, 2005 at 01:13:12PM -0400, Craig Russell wrote: askar k wrote: Is there step-by-step guide on building a mail server postfix+spamassassin+clamavd+etc... on the internet? And is there a step-by-step guide on building a mail server using exim4? Hi Csanyi I recently followed this to build two mail servers: http://blogs.papercutsoftware.com/matt.doran/page/2/ Below are some notes I made for myself; they're pretty sketchy but may help. Regards Clive Mailserver Install Packages: dovecot exim4-daemon-heavy greylistd sa-exim spamassassin razor clamav clamav-daemon fetchmail To configure exim4: $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config Configure exim4 to direct mail to $home/Maildir Add: dc_localdelivery='maildir_home' to /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf Dovecot setup: edit /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf adding values for protocols Configure fetchmail edit $home/.fetchmailrc run fetchmail as daemon NB. Need script to run user daemons after reboot $ fetchmail -d 600 to activate spamassassin edit /etc/default/spamassassin: ENABLED=1 to integrate with exim4 follow the instructions in: /usr/share/doc/sa-exim/README.Debian and add the following two lines to /etc/exim4/exim4.conf.template: local_scan_path = /usr/lib/exim4/local_scan/sa-exim.so av_scanner = clamd:/var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl and add this to acl/40_exim4-config_check_data setcion to activate clamav: # added for configuring clamav deny message = This message contains a virus: ($malware_name) please scan your system. demime = * malware = * and add clamav to group Debian-exim (dpkg-reconfigure clamav-daemon) edit /etc/exim4/sa-exim.conf SApermreject: 8.0 SAtempreject: 5.0 SAEximRunCond: 1 To configure razor, follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/razor/README.Debian -- www.clivemenzies.co.uk ... ...strategies for business -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
