Re: [OT] Googling...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 08:34:17AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Question I have: who would think of searching for miserable failure, or perhaps does Google leak its hidden motives? Or are they? Not a hidden motive, but Google, by nature of it's full-text search and pagerank, will tend to have some surprisingly and humorously accurate results when compared to most other search engines. - -- .''`. Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAEcidUzgNqloQMwcRAtmVAJ9Wdm9+U0RSnkABJarhq7/vBRo6RQCgyYNB 9wIMAvn5c5jJo7Cpft74Opo= =nlFr -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Googling...
Sometime near Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 08:34:17AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi World! I read this: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/22/technology/circuits/22goog.html a NYT report on Google's search engine. The report says two months ago but it is true now: searching for miserable failure produces Bush's biography :-) Question I have: who would think of searching for miserable failure, or perhaps does Google leak its hidden motives? Or are they? Hi, I cant view the article because im not registered at NYT but i believe that this sort of thing is called google bombing. Ive seen it many times before (eg evil empire-Microsoft corporation). I think its just done by people who own alot of domains, they just post pages that make a real good strong link between miserable failure and george bush. Forums are also a great place for these bombings to occur. And because google is so cool, it scans these pages and picks up on the fact that bush is a miserable failure and thus you get his official site as the #1 link. People find out about these i would assume by the people who started them telling their friends and so on...wildfire spreads fast on the internet :P. -- Cheers, rinmak [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Googling...
On Thursday January 22 at 08:34am Hugo Vanwoerkom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question I have: who would think of searching for miserable failure, or perhaps does Google leak its hidden motives? Or are they? Google has a rating system, that is partially based on how many people follow certain links when searching for certain things. Therefore, if people search for 'miserable failure' and go through the results (or send google false/doctored urls, etc) and click GW's site, it raises the points for said site for said search. Now, if a lot of people do this, they can move it all the way up to #1 (which is why 'I'm feeling lucky goes to it) -- -johann koenig Now Playing: Face To Face - Resignation : Face To Face Today is Boomtime, the 22nd day of Chaos in the YOLD 3170 My public pgp key: http://mental-graffiti.com/pgp/johannkoenig.pgp pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [OT] Googling...
--- Johann Koenig [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: On Thursday January 22 at 08:34am Hugo Vanwoerkom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question I have: who would think of searching for miserable failure, or perhaps does Google leak its hidden motives? Or are they? Google has a rating system, that is partially based on how many people follow certain links when searching for certain things. Therefore, if people search for 'miserable failure' and go through the results (or send google false/doctored urls, etc) and click GW's site, it raises the points for said site for said search. Now, if a lot of people do this, they can move it all the way up to #1 (which is why 'I'm feeling lucky goes to it) So how come that searching for 'miserable failure' lists a page (GWB bio) as number one, when that page contains none of the words in the search? Is that becaus people send google false/doctored urls (whatever that means)? --ph ___ Yahoo! Messenger - Nueva versión GRATIS Super Webcam, voz, caritas animadas, y más... http://messenger.yahoo.es -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Googling...
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 18:17:01 +0100 (CET), Pedro Hernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: --- Johann Koenig [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: On Thursday January 22 at 08:34am Hugo Vanwoerkom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question I have: who would think of searching for miserable failure, or perhaps does Google leak its hidden motives? Or are they? Google has a rating system, that is partially based on how many people follow certain links when searching for certain things. Therefore, if people search for 'miserable failure' and go through the results (or send google false/doctored urls, etc) and click GW's site, it raises the points for said site for said search. Now, if a lot of people do this, they can move it all the way up to #1 (which is why 'I'm feeling lucky goes to it) So how come that searching for 'miserable failure' lists a page (GWB bio) as number one, when that page contains none of the words in the search? Is that becaus people send google false/doctored urls (whatever that means)? ..or, could it be a sign from God? ;-) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Googling...
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 18:17:01 +0100 (CET) Pedro Hernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip So how come that searching for 'miserable failure' lists a page (GWB bio) as number one, when that page contains none of the words in the search? Is that becaus people send google false/doctored urls (whatever that means)? Yes. It's done by having a link on several websites that point to GWB's bio. The words in the previously mentioned links are miserable failure, so Google's smart servers automatically associate the two and then the next time someone does a search for miserable failure it returns what it saw someone else say was a good result for those terms. Note, however, it takes several webpages doing this before it has the desired effect. Plus, of course, Google has to know about the webpage before it can start searching it... HTH, Jacob - GnuPG Key: 1024D/16377135 Reset button? What reset button? - Linux, the OS that never sleeps. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [OT] Googling...
On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 08:12:54PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: Pedro Hernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [snip] So how come that searching for 'miserable failure' lists a page (GWB bio) as number one, when that page contains none of the words in the search? Is that becaus people send google false/doctored urls (whatever that means)? ..or, could it be a sign from God? ;-) I think google is getting worse. Many of you will point out the tricks needed to get useful results. That's what you used to have to do on hotbot or altavista. Google used to just work -- you didn't have to be extremely clever or think much to do the right thing. I think google has peaked. I honestly can't believe the world is sitting around waiting for a search engine to IPO on the strength of its portal and soon to be coming email features, sure to find eyeballs! as the the tech stock market soars. Last year I started dropping hints that since people were apparently so happy during the stock market bubble when they were fake millionares, then we should make the poor dumb idiots happy again by just doing the whole damn bubble again, just so they'd be happy dumb sheep and my pres. George Bush would get reelected. I knew those idiots would fall for it hook line and sinker again. I am a little disapointed in Bush for raising interest rates -- I didn't think he'd let it get this far out of hand again. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Googling...
On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 11:28:41AM -0800, Nano Nano wrote: hook line and sinker again. I am a little disapointed in Bush for -not- raising interest rates -- I didn't think he'd let it get this far out of hand again. Fire Alan Greenspan! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
