Re: A Little Confused
On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 00:20:09 +0200, s. keeling wrote: Otherwise, dump *dm and hack your style file: ~/.fluxbox/styles/TDF: rootCommand: /usr/bin/feh --bg-center /home/keeling/grf/omega_nebula.jpg Or you could use ~/.fluxbox/init which overrides all style files, anyhow the simplest way of prettifying xdm is to install one of the others, such as wdm. -- Stephen Patterson http://patter.mine.nu/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] remove SPAM to reply Linux Counter No: 142831 GPG Public key: 252B8B37 Caution: breathing may be hazardous to your health. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A Little Confused
On Fri, Sep 24, 2004 at 03:05:11PM -0700, Sergio Basurto wrote: On the inittab you must change your init runlevel, try with a value of 3 if you are on SuSE or 2 if you are under Debian Wrong. Changing the runlevel won't do anything in Debian, unless you create a custom runlevel by changing the links in /etc/rc?.d I'd very much like to improve upon that awful looking gray hash-marked background - You can change that by editing /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup and /etc/X11/xdm/Xresources. I have mine showing xplanet in the background. -- System Events =-=-=-=-=-=-= Sep 16 03:31:11 don kernel: lp0 on fire -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A Little Confused
On Fri, Sep 24, 2004 at 01:36:07PM -0400, John Lowell wrote: A little confused by the Debian login process when using a window manager like fluxbox. The window manager doesn't have anything to do with it. The display manager you install does. In the past, I've always started the X window system after a console login and startx after having first written an ~/.xinitrc. Meaning that either you've never used a display manager, or you've used only Linux distributions that start X only in certain run-levels, like RedHat derivatives. Debian doesn't do things that way. The assumption is that if you installed a display manager, you expect to want to use it on the local display. I was a little surprized after the Debian installation and the addition of X window system and fluxbox to find myself automatically at a graphical login screen. As it should be. You installed the x-window-system meta-package, it brings in xdm, xdm starts automatically. I assume that xdm is somehow run as a last step of the init process. No, xdm is run by its init script, namely /etc/init.d/xdm, which is part of run-level 2 as /etc/rc2.d/S99xdm. In its default configuration, it will start up X on vt 7. This is, of course, configurable. I've searched and searched the man pages on the various related scripts, Xsession, the xdm scripts and the like and can't find the file that generates the login screen. In other words, you haven't bothered to search at all and figured that you'd just get someone else here to do your thinking for you. That's fine, no one was born knowing how X works, but don't bother claiming to have done things you haven't. Xdm is remarkably well-documented. All of its related files can be found in /etc/X11/xdm, just like the documentation says. I'd very much like to improve upon that awful looking gray hash-marked background - something I've done previously via alias lines in ~/.bashrc Pretty much completely unlikely. Any alias you might be creating in bash wouldn't have any effect on what X might be doing. You could, of course, do whatever you liked in ~/.xinitrc or ~/.xsession, which is probably what you're actually thinking of. - but, assuming that xdm generates the login somehow, can't find the file that initiates xdm to fix that either. I'm lost. Might someone step in at this point to help? Xdm's configuration is controlled by /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config, everything you would want to know is in that file or pointed to by that file. If you want to control the root pixmap during login, place the appropriate command(s) in /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup, also as documented. If you don't want X to start automatically, then remove the display manager. -- Marc Wilson | Fuch's Warning: If you actually look like your [EMAIL PROTECTED] | passport photo, you aren't well enough to travel. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A Little Confused
On the inittab you must change your init runlevel, try with a value of 3 if you are on SuSE or 2 if you are under Debian # The default runlevel is defined here id:5:initdefault: You can find more info at: www.tldp.org On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 13:36:07 -0400, John Lowell wrote: A little confused by the Debian login process when using a window manager like fluxbox. In the past, I've always started the X window system after a console login and startx after having first written an ~/.xinitrc. I was a little surprized after the Debian installation and the addition of X window system and fluxbox to find myself automatically at a graphical login screen. I assume that xdm is somehow run as a last step of the init process. I've searched and searched the man pages on the various related scripts, Xsession, the xdm scripts and the like and can't find the file that generates the login screen. I'd very much like to improve upon that awful looking gray hash-marked background - something I've done previously via alias lines in ~/.bashrc - but, assuming that xdm generates the login somehow, can't find the file that initiates xdm to fix that either. I'm lost. Might someone step in at this point to help? jlowell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ing. Sergio Basurto Juárez Tel: 04455-85322945 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A Little Confused
Incoming from John Lowell: A little confused by the Debian login process when using a window manager like fluxbox. In the past, I've always started the X window system after a console login and startx after having first written an ~/.xinitrc. I was a little surprized after the Debian installation and the addition of X window system and fluxbox to find myself automatically at a graphical login screen. I assume that xdm is somehow run as a last Do you really want xdm at all? I use fluxbox without it, just as you used to run it. However, you can rummage around in /etc/X11. I note there's a /etc/X11/gdm that's a link to /etc/gdm/ which contains gdm.conf, and that mentions a few graphical things. Otherwise, dump *dm and hack your style file: ~/.fluxbox/styles/TDF: rootCommand: /usr/bin/feh --bg-center /home/keeling/grf/omega_nebula.jpg -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*) http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling - - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A little confused with Netscape .deb's
Brian Servis wrote: *- On 22 Jun, Tom Pfeifer wrote about Re: A little confused with Netscape .deb's Arcady Genkin wrote: Hi all: Could someone tell me which .debs I should install to have Netscape browser-only on a Slink machine? Is it the netscape-base package? As far as I found out, versions =4.5 can be found in unstable, right? Can there be any problem because Slink has glibc-2.0, and potato -- 2.1? Also, is there a browser-only 4.6? [good apt-get advice] The 4.6 version of Netscape is only in potato (unstable) and requires the 2.1 version of libc6, which is also only in potato. If you're not otherwise planning on upgrading to potato at this time, you would probably be best off to stick with Netscape 4.5 for now. I've had them both installed and didn't notice much, if any, difference in functionality - and version 4.5 running on slink is likely to be more stable. There are packages for netscape 4.6 at http://ftp.netgod.net/x built against slink. I think you still have to get the netscape-base-4_14 from the contrib/web section of unstable(it is not dependent on libc6=2.1). Just install that package by hand with dpkg and then add 'deb http://ftp.netgod.net/ x/' to your sources.list file and do as Tom described. -- Brian - Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis - -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null I tried to install netscape-base4_14 to slink and this is what I got: ollollo:/home/jason# dpkg -i netscape-base-4_14.deb (Reading database ... 46865 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace netscape-base-4 5 (using netscape-base-4_14.deb) ... Unpacking replacement netscape-base-4 ... Update-menus: waiting for dpkg to finish(forking to background) Update-menus: (checking /var/lib/dpkg/lock) dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of netscape-base-4: netscape-base-4 depends on libc6 (= 2.1); however: Version of libc6 on system is 2.0.7.19981211-6. netscape-base-4 depends on liburi-perl; however: Package liburi-perl is not installed. dpkg: error processing netscape-base-4 (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: netscape-base-4
Re: A little confused with Netscape .deb's
*- On 22 Jun, Jason Loll wrote about Re: A little confused with Netscape .deb's I tried to install netscape-base4_14 to slink and this is what I got: ollollo:/home/jason# dpkg -i netscape-base-4_14.deb (Reading database ... 46865 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace netscape-base-4 5 (using netscape-base-4_14.deb) ... Unpacking replacement netscape-base-4 ... Update-menus: waiting for dpkg to finish(forking to background) Update-menus: (checking /var/lib/dpkg/lock) dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of netscape-base-4: netscape-base-4 depends on libc6 (= 2.1); however: Version of libc6 on system is 2.0.7.19981211-6. netscape-base-4 depends on liburi-perl; however: Package liburi-perl is not installed. dpkg: error processing netscape-base-4 (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: netscape-base-4 Ack! I keep forgetting. You *also* need to install the liburi-perl and libwww-perl packages from unstable. Install them at the same time with dpkg because they have interdependencies on each other and conflict with the versions in slink. dpkg -i liburi-perl*.deb libwww-perl*.deb Sorry, -- Brian - Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -
Re: A little confused with Netscape .deb's
*- On 22 Jun, Brian Servis wrote about Re: A little confused with Netscape .deb's *- On 22 Jun, Jason Loll wrote about Re: A little confused with Netscape .deb's I tried to install netscape-base4_14 to slink and this is what I got: ollollo:/home/jason# dpkg -i netscape-base-4_14.deb (Reading database ... 46865 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace netscape-base-4 5 (using netscape-base-4_14.deb) ... Unpacking replacement netscape-base-4 ... Update-menus: waiting for dpkg to finish(forking to background) Update-menus: (checking /var/lib/dpkg/lock) dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of netscape-base-4: netscape-base-4 depends on libc6 (= 2.1); however: Version of libc6 on system is 2.0.7.19981211-6. netscape-base-4 depends on liburi-perl; however: Package liburi-perl is not installed. dpkg: error processing netscape-base-4 (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: netscape-base-4 Ack! I keep forgetting. You *also* need to install the liburi-perl and libwww-perl packages from unstable. Install them at the same time with dpkg because they have interdependencies on each other and conflict with the versions in slink. dpkg -i liburi-perl*.deb libwww-perl*.deb Sorry, Ack again!!! Missed the fact that the netscape-base-4_14 in unstable depends on libc6(=2.1). I have a copy built against lib6(2.1) at http://widget.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis/netscape-base-4_14-i386.deb. So install the liburi-perl and libwww-perl and this netscape-base-4 package all at once and then proceed with the rest. That *should* do it, -- Brian - Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -
Re: A little confused with Netscape .deb's
Arcady Genkin wrote: Hi all: Could someone tell me which .debs I should install to have Netscape browser-only on a Slink machine? Is it the netscape-base package? As far as I found out, versions =4.5 can be found in unstable, right? Can there be any problem because Slink has glibc-2.0, and potato -- 2.1? Also, is there a browser-only 4.6? If you are running slink, you need to install the package navigator-smotif-45. If you do that using the apt-get command like this... apt-get install navigator-smotif-45 ...it will install the stand alone Navigator plus all it's dependencies, including navigator-base-45 and netscape-base-4. If you want java support and/or the online help, also install the package(s): netscape-java-45 navigator-nethelp-45 The 4.6 version of Netscape is only in potato (unstable) and requires the 2.1 version of libc6, which is also only in potato. If you're not otherwise planning on upgrading to potato at this time, you would probably be best off to stick with Netscape 4.5 for now. I've had them both installed and didn't notice much, if any, difference in functionality - and version 4.5 running on slink is likely to be more stable. Tom
Re: A little confused with Netscape .deb's
*- On 22 Jun, Tom Pfeifer wrote about Re: A little confused with Netscape .deb's Arcady Genkin wrote: Hi all: Could someone tell me which .debs I should install to have Netscape browser-only on a Slink machine? Is it the netscape-base package? As far as I found out, versions =4.5 can be found in unstable, right? Can there be any problem because Slink has glibc-2.0, and potato -- 2.1? Also, is there a browser-only 4.6? [good apt-get advice] The 4.6 version of Netscape is only in potato (unstable) and requires the 2.1 version of libc6, which is also only in potato. If you're not otherwise planning on upgrading to potato at this time, you would probably be best off to stick with Netscape 4.5 for now. I've had them both installed and didn't notice much, if any, difference in functionality - and version 4.5 running on slink is likely to be more stable. There are packages for netscape 4.6 at http://ftp.netgod.net/x built against slink. I think you still have to get the netscape-base-4_14 from the contrib/web section of unstable(it is not dependent on libc6=2.1). Just install that package by hand with dpkg and then add 'deb http://ftp.netgod.net/ x/' to your sources.list file and do as Tom described. -- Brian - Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -
