[solved] Re: After full-upgrade, `Meta' key not working within Emacs

2015-08-09 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Mike Kupfer m.kup...@acm.org writes:

 Rodolfo Medina wrote:

 After last full-upgrade, Emacs starts without X support and with the `Meta'
 key not being recognized.  How to fix that?

 If you're running Emacs in tty mode, then I think the Meta key support
 is done by the terminal emulator.  What terminal emulator are you using?

Yes, I'm using XTerm, and the Meta or Alt role is played by ESC.  But Meta/Alt
is enabled appending the following line:

xterm*metaSendsEscape: true

to the file /etc/X11/app-defaults/XTerm.

 As for Emacs not having X support, which Emacs packages do you have
 installed?  Are there any warning messages when you start Emacs from the
 command line?

With the last full-upgrade, emacs24 was replaced by emacs-nox.  Now, if I do:

 # aptitude install emacs24

, it complains that it conflicts with emacs-nox and suggests to remove it, that
I expect will solve the problem.  But, after all, using Emacs without GUI
support is all right for me.

Rodolfo


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Re: After full-upgrade, `Meta' key not working within Emacs

2015-08-08 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 08 August 2015 07:13:09 Rodolfo Medina wrote:
 My sources.list:

 # Unstable
 deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ unstable main
 deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ unstable main

 deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free

You don't need 
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable main
twice, but that still doesn't solve the meta key problem.

Lisi
 .  After last full-upgrade, Emacs starts without X support and with the
 `Meta' key not being recognized.  How to fix that?


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Re: After full-upgrade, `Meta' key not working within Emacs

2015-08-08 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com writes:

 On Saturday 08 August 2015 07:13:09 Rodolfo Medina wrote:
 My sources.list:

 # Unstable
 deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ unstable main
 deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ unstable main

 deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free

 You don't need 
 deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable main
 twice, but that still doesn't solve the meta key problem.

 Lisi
 .  After last full-upgrade, Emacs starts without X support and with the
 `Meta' key not being recognized.  How to fix that?

The second time is:

 deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ unstable main

Rodolfo


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Re: After full-upgrade, `Meta' key not working within Emacs

2015-08-08 Thread Bob Bernstein

On Sat, 8 Aug 2015, Lisi Reisz wrote:


...but that still doesn't solve the meta key problem.


Ordinarily would we not, in the good old days, edit our 
handy /etc/X11.xorg.conf file?


I have xorg running here on a very recent Jessie install, 
and am typing in it rather nicely thank you at this very 
moment, but there is no xorg.conf file per se anywhere to be 
found on this machine. There is a thing, a collection of 
other .conf files in fact, installed under 
/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d, but none of them appear to treat 
of keyboards and their vicissitudes.



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Re: After full-upgrade, `Meta' key not working within Emacs

2015-08-08 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 08 August 2015 13:52:42 Rodolfo Medina wrote:
 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com writes:
  On Saturday 08 August 2015 07:13:09 Rodolfo Medina wrote:
  My sources.list:
 
  # Unstable
  deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ unstable main
  deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ unstable main
 
  deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
 
  You don't need
  deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable main
  twice, but that still doesn't solve the meta key problem.
 
  Lisi
 
  .  After last full-upgrade, Emacs starts without X support and with the
  `Meta' key not being recognized.  How to fix that?

 The second time is:

  deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ unstable main

 Rodolfo

Yes - but the third line again has 
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable main

So you have those words twice and you only need them once.  The third line is 
the more useful, since it also has contrib and non-free, so I personally 
would delete the first line and then rearrange the other two - or more 
likely, add contrib non-free to the first line and delete the third.  But 
it is doing no harm.

Lisi


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Re: After full-upgrade, `Meta' key not working within Emacs

2015-08-08 Thread Mike Kupfer
Rodolfo Medina wrote:

 After last full-upgrade, Emacs starts without X support and with the `Meta'
 key not being recognized.  How to fix that?

If you're running Emacs in tty mode, then I think the Meta key support
is done by the terminal emulator.  What terminal emulator are you using?

As for Emacs not having X support, which Emacs packages do you have
installed?  Are there any warning messages when you start Emacs from the
command line?

mike


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Re: After full-upgrade, `Meta' key not working within Emacs

2015-08-08 Thread David Wright
Quoting Bob Bernstein (poo...@ruptured-duck.com):
 On Sat, 8 Aug 2015, Lisi Reisz wrote:
 
 ...but that still doesn't solve the meta key problem.
 
 Ordinarily would we not, in the good old days, edit our handy
 /etc/X11.xorg.conf file?

s,.,/,

 I have xorg running here on a very recent Jessie install, and am
 typing in it rather nicely thank you at this very moment, but there
 is no xorg.conf file per se anywhere to be found on this machine.

Nowadays, X configures itself unless you're deviating from the usual
or need driver workarounds etc.
# Xorg -configure   will write one for you if you need to check it
over or make changes and additions.

 There is a thing, a collection of other .conf files in fact,
 installed under /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d, but none of them appear
 to treat of keyboards and their vicissitudes.

They're all next door in /usr/share/X11/kbd/ but aren't for changing.
However, we have no evidence whether X is at fault, do we?

Cheers,
David.


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