Re: [CentOS] Buggy power [was: Re: Canon PIXMA mg5420 or HP Photo Smart 7520]
At Thu, 11 Sep 2014 08:51:59 -0400 CentOS mailing list wrote: > > On 09/10/2014 08:46 AM Bonno Bloksma wrote: > > Hi, > > > >> In need of a new printer, having done a bit or research, and considering > >> either the Canon PIXMA mg5420 or the HP Photo Smart 7520. > > > > Besides the Linux support there is one other thing to consider. The HP > > Photosmart 7520 was designed never to be turned off. It comes with a smart > > power brick that does not seem to work smart. > > I have been in contact with HP support and they claim never to have heard > > of the problem, eventhough a simple google search will show lots of > > complaints, and even supplied me with a second printer and powerbrick to > > "solve" the problem, but the problem is still there. > > > > If you turn off the printer the powerbrick will turn itself off as well > > after 5 sec. It is supposed to turn itself on again if the printer asks for > > power, it doesn't. I need to pull the plug, reinsert is and switch on the > > printer within 5 sec. :-( > > > >> Thanks for your knowledge and experience. > > FWIW. > > > > Bonno Bloksma > > > > In the comments about the Photo Smart 7520 on Amazon I read about people > (or maybe it was just one guy) who claimed he needed to repeated plug > and unplug the power cord to get it to work. What you describe is > probably that problem. > > Another guy on Amazon said that his printer mysteriously turned itself > off one day. > > Thanks for the info! And the great clarification. I certainly don't > want to buy a printer that's going to throw problems at me all the time. > Sometimes I feel like the public has been turned into a bunch of beta > testers for some of this new technology. HP has drifted to the 'bottom' when it comes to printer quality. HP is now making 'junk' printers (at least in terms of inkjets). HP also has policy of pretty much no-questions-asked replacement (in the warrantry period) -- I think they know their printers are junk and fully expect them to fail before then end of the warrantry period. *I* finally convinced the library director at the local library to give up on HP OfficeJunk MFCs (the first one lasted just over one year, and the second about 10 months, and its replacement about a month, and its replacement a few weeks, and its replacement a week or so, ... after five replacements we ended up with one that lasted to a few months beyond the 90 warrantry period of the replacement) and get a Brother color laser MFC. The initial cost is a bit higher, but the library is no longer being nickel and dimed to death buying ink carts and the Brother printer, just works and works and is not being out of order every few months (or weeks or even days). > > ___ > CentOS mailing list > cen...@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > > > -- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 Deepwoods Software-- Custom Software Services http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services hel...@deepsoft.com -- Webhosting Services -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201409111425.s8bepndg029...@sharky2.deepsoft.com
Buggy power [was: Re: Canon PIXMA mg5420 or HP Photo Smart 7520]
On 09/10/2014 08:46 AM Bonno Bloksma wrote: Hi, In need of a new printer, having done a bit or research, and considering either the Canon PIXMA mg5420 or the HP Photo Smart 7520. Besides the Linux support there is one other thing to consider. The HP Photosmart 7520 was designed never to be turned off. It comes with a smart power brick that does not seem to work smart. I have been in contact with HP support and they claim never to have heard of the problem, eventhough a simple google search will show lots of complaints, and even supplied me with a second printer and powerbrick to "solve" the problem, but the problem is still there. If you turn off the printer the powerbrick will turn itself off as well after 5 sec. It is supposed to turn itself on again if the printer asks for power, it doesn't. I need to pull the plug, reinsert is and switch on the printer within 5 sec. :-( Thanks for your knowledge and experience. FWIW. Bonno Bloksma In the comments about the Photo Smart 7520 on Amazon I read about people (or maybe it was just one guy) who claimed he needed to repeated plug and unplug the power cord to get it to work. What you describe is probably that problem. Another guy on Amazon said that his printer mysteriously turned itself off one day. Thanks for the info! And the great clarification. I certainly don't want to buy a printer that's going to throw problems at me all the time. Sometimes I feel like the public has been turned into a bunch of beta testers for some of this new technology. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54119aef.3020...@mousecar.com
Re: Canon PIXMA mg5420 or HP Photo Smart 7520
On 09/10/2014 08:46 AM, Bonno Bloksma wrote: Hi, In need of a new printer, having done a bit or research, and considering either the Canon PIXMA mg5420 or the HP Photo Smart 7520. Besides the Linux support there is one other thing to consider. The HP Photosmart 7520 was designed never to be turned off. It comes with a smart power brick that does not seem to work smart. I have been in contact with HP support and they claim never to have heard of the problem, eventhough a simple google search will show lots of complaints, and even supplied me with a second printer and powerbrick to "solve" the problem, but the problem is still there. If you turn off the printer the powerbrick will turn itself off as well after 5 sec. It is supposed to turn itself on again if the printer asks for power, it doesn't. I need to pull the plug, reinsert is and switch on the printer within 5 sec. :-( I refuse to use anything HP, after getting a smart alec call from one of their supervisors when my problem had to be escalated. They knew they had a failing part with my series of "All-In-One". Those who had it fail before the warranty ran out, got a new printer. Mine failed about a month after. I asked for a repair or replacement part, since they already knew it would fail. "You shouldn't have bought an entry-level printer." I promised that I would repeat this on every email list I subscribed to, when an occasion arose to do so, and here I am. To hell with HP. I bet my old 1978 Teletype 43 is still running some where. Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54109fec.5030...@gmail.com
RE: Canon PIXMA mg5420 or HP Photo Smart 7520
Hi, > In need of a new printer, having done a bit or research, and considering > either the Canon PIXMA mg5420 or the HP Photo Smart 7520. Besides the Linux support there is one other thing to consider. The HP Photosmart 7520 was designed never to be turned off. It comes with a smart power brick that does not seem to work smart. I have been in contact with HP support and they claim never to have heard of the problem, eventhough a simple google search will show lots of complaints, and even supplied me with a second printer and powerbrick to "solve" the problem, but the problem is still there. If you turn off the printer the powerbrick will turn itself off as well after 5 sec. It is supposed to turn itself on again if the printer asks for power, it doesn't. I need to pull the plug, reinsert is and switch on the printer within 5 sec. :-( > Thanks for your knowledge and experience. FWIW. Bonno Bloksma
Re: Canon PIXMA mg5420 or HP Photo Smart 7520
Op Tue, 09 Sep 2014 01:06:26 +0200 schreef ken : In need of a new printer, having done a bit or research, and considering either the Canon PIXMA mg5420 or the HP Photo Smart 7520. There are Linux drivers for the Photosmart which are supposed to handle both the printer and the scanner. But in my research I haven't found (yet) anyone who's gotten the scanner to work with Linux on the Photosmart, let alone the sheet feeder for it. Allegedly there are instructions and requirements for using the fax on Linux. But I'd like to hear from someone who has actually gotten all of this working on Linux (either debian or centos) and which version of which distro is needed. The Canon PIXMA mg5420 doesn't have a fax or a sheet feeder for its scanner, but I'm guessing it's even dodgier to get just its single-sheet flatbed scanner and its printer working with Linux. So has anyone had success with that? I've also read horror stories about the how often new ink cartridges are required, that basically you pay for the printer a second and third time buying cartridges (not to mention how often a print job is interrupted by a trip to buy new cartridges). Any first-hand reports on that? Whoever thought spending money would be so tough? Thanks for your knowledge and experience. My two cents: I have a Canon Pixma MG5250 All-in-one connected via my home network and it works out of the box. The scan-to-computer-button is the only feature I haven't test. But I can give a successfully scan command from my computer. USB Connect: - CUPS also have drivers for the MG5400 series, so I suspect the printer function will work. - Sane reports on their site: "Pixma MG5400 - usb - Untested", but the MG5300 and MG6100 are successfully tested, so I think the scanner-function will work also. Network Connect (Pixma is connected via a hub or switch): Connon use standard network protocols, so I suspect this will work. Ink: I haven't count how many pages I can print, but I use the ink-refill-shop around the corner. And many people do, so Canon doesn't make any profit on my ink. (Or they must also make the cheaper ink cartridges) good luck, floris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/op.xlxjnpli5k9...@jessica.jkfloris.demon.nl
Re: Canon PIXMA mg5420 or HP Photo Smart 7520
On Mon, 08 Sep 2014 19:06:26 -0400 ken wrote: > In need of a new printer, having done a bit or research, and > considering either the Canon PIXMA mg5420 or the HP Photo Smart 7520. Avoid all-in-one junks. Just for the story, I saw some completely refusing to work just because the scanner lamp was dead (price is close to 1/2 of the junk's price…) Think about the difference between a MIDI HIFI block and a conventional one: when you break something in a MIDI, it'll usually end up in the trash can. > I've also read horror stories about the how often new ink cartridges > are required, that basically you pay for the printer a second and > third time buying cartridges (not to mention how often a print job is > interrupted by a trip to buy new cartridges). Any first-hand reports > on that? Depends on your use (home or pro). If you _really_ need color, then go for color - I think about professions that _needs_ (law mandatory) color for some texts). Depending on your monthly consumption, color laser could be an option (but watch closely the toners' prices before buying!) But if you can avoid it, then go B&W laser and do NOT choose the lower model; choose a model where the cartridge includes the drum (HP is generally a good choice and compatible cartridges can be found for a fraction of the original's price with excellent perfs). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140909014916.47c6afe8@msi.defcon1
Re: Canon PIXMA mg5420 or HP Photo Smart 7520
On 09/08/2014 07:06 PM, ken wrote: In need of a new printer, having done a bit or research, and considering either the Canon PIXMA mg5420 or the HP Photo Smart 7520. There are Linux drivers for the Photosmart which are supposed to handle both the printer and the scanner. But in my research I haven't found (yet) anyone who's gotten the scanner to work with Linux on the Photosmart, let alone the sheet feeder for it. Allegedly there are instructions and requirements for using the fax on Linux. But I'd like to hear from someone who has actually gotten all of this working on Linux (either debian or centos) and which version of which distro is needed. The Canon PIXMA mg5420 doesn't have a fax or a sheet feeder for its scanner, but I'm guessing it's even dodgier to get just its single-sheet flatbed scanner and its printer working with Linux. So has anyone had success with that? I've also read horror stories about the how often new ink cartridges are required, that basically you pay for the printer a second and third time buying cartridges (not to mention how often a print job is interrupted by a trip to buy new cartridges). Any first-hand reports on that? Whoever thought spending money would be so tough? Thanks for your knowledge and experience. This is not exactly what you asked, but I have an Epson WP-4530 all-in-one color printer, scanner, fax. Epson has Linux drivers for the printer and scanner, and they work fine. I have not faxed direct from the computer, since I like to send at least one sheet with a signature on it, so I print what I what to fax, and then send the fax by hand. The scanner sheet feeder, BTW, will even do two-sided originals! But I've never tried to scan a bundle from the computer. That doesn't mean it can't, but I use XSane, and I never saw a setup on it to do more than one copy at a time. Reader comment? It doesn't seem to me to use ink that fast. Nota bene: I always buy the manufacturer's ink cartridges. Making a substitute caused me to throw out a fairly new printer some years ago! --doug -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/540e3bfe.9050...@optonline.net
