Re: Is it exist a mailing-list for console only users ?
Am 2007-12-01 03:20:25, schrieb s. keeling: Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Usenet News has plenty of non-X related groups. comp.unix.shell might be to your liking, or one of the Debian related alt groups. The problem is, that NOT ALL users can read usenet... http://groups.google.com, for searching, not posting. Too expensive... I am On-Line via GSM Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Konzack -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSN LinuxMichi 0033/6/6192519367100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) signature.pgp Description: Digital signature
Re: Is it exist a mailing-list for console only users ?
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 11:51:44PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2007-11-23 19:42:32, schrieb SPKills: All is in the question... As i don't (almost) ever used the X server then i'm not really able to help others and not really interested in their problems, i would like to know if it exists a list of this kind. Thx ! (ps: i checked out debian website but couldn't find..) - END OF REPLIED MESSAGE - I do not know of such list, but maybe, you could create your own one on yahoogroups.com (Yeah, it has changed to HTML-Crap) but I can not recommend googlegroops.com since only GMail-Users/Spamer can subscribe there. -- In general, the same crap as Yahoogroups. Anybody can subscribe, but probably only gmail users can create groups (which is the same with yahoo). Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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On Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 03:08:03AM +0100, s. keeling wrote: Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 09:56:52PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: Hard drives aren't *that* expensive, are they? This is a pervasive attitude. Yes, unless you have a recent box, adding reliable drive space can be a pain. Where can I buy a new drive under 8 GB for my 486? It calls any larger drive an error. I don't know if I could put an 80 GB drive in my PII. Why are you so attached to your PII? I'm in Canada too, and I bought (vfxweb.com) an old PIII-733, added 0.5 Gb RAM and a used CD-RW ($25.00), all of which adds up to a screamer (running the apps I use) for under $200. Who says I need a screamer. Actually, I could use some free text-terminals and a serial card for my Athlon box. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 09:14:56AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 11/29/07 08:44, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 09:56:52PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
Hard drives aren't *that* expensive, are they?
This is a pervasive attitude. Yes, unless you have a recent box, adding
reliable drive space can be a pain. Where can I buy a new drive under 8
GB for my 486? It calls any larger drive an error.
Linux shouldn't do that.
The bios complains. Its an IBM PS/ValuePoint 486DX4-100, 32 MB ram.
The bios isn't an Asus thing, its an IBM thing. I can't tell it
anything about the hard drive it sees nor can I tell it to ignore it. I
bought an 8 GB drive for it (I used to have one that died) and it
complained about a drive error (drive OK in the PII). I tried the drive
in all sorts of configs from only drive on hda to second drive on
hd{b|c|d} and the box wouldn't boot (POST errors) so long as that drive
was installed. So the box is stuck with a 1.1 GB drive.
Besides, Wal-Mart sells new Linux boxes for US$200.
Who said I had $200 to spend? Besides, I don't buy anything from
Walmart.
I don't know if I could put an 80 GB drive in my PII.
Why not?
Because this P-II (Asus something-or-other MB) is very finiky about what
drives you put in and where. It wouldn't take the 8 GB drive as the
only drive but only as a hdc drive with the 850 MB drive as hda.
I had a Pentium 75 (AST) that would _only_ accept its own drive on ide0.
To replace that drive when it died, I had to put the new drive on ide1
and it showed up as hda. Had to put the CD on ide1 also, as hdb.
Couldn't put anything else in the box. Made installing fun since if I
boot from floppy (couldn't boot from CD) the drives showed up as hdb.
Doug.
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/01/07 18:31, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 03:08:03AM +0100, s. keeling wrote: Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 09:56:52PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: Hard drives aren't *that* expensive, are they? This is a pervasive attitude. Yes, unless you have a recent box, adding reliable drive space can be a pain. Where can I buy a new drive under 8 GB for my 486? It calls any larger drive an error. I don't know if I could put an 80 GB drive in my PII. Why are you so attached to your PII? I'm in Canada too, and I bought (vfxweb.com) an old PIII-733, added 0.5 Gb RAM and a used CD-RW ($25.00), all of which adds up to a screamer (running the apps I use) for under $200. Who says I need a screamer. Actually, I could use some free text-terminals and a serial card for my Athlon box. Get yourself a DECserver and plug it into your switch. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA %SYSTEM-F-FISH, my hovercraft is full of eels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHUhmFS9HxQb37XmcRArZOAKDjXhoM0AXGSBMaAyhKDtIlUkXbpQCgyYoE KgjKgp+1DDd4Jyq8OG4XHNU= =P0PY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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s. keeling wrote: Why are you so attached to your PII? I'm in Canada too, and I bought (vfxweb.com) an old PIII-733, added 0.5 Gb RAM and a used CD-RW ($25.00), all of which adds up to a screamer (running the apps I use) for under $200. That's right! I've just finished configuring three old P1 desktop boxes as: firewall; email server; and fax box. My main box (still in development) is going to be a screamer. The box I've just retired, only because the Mainboard blew up, a 1GHz Athlon based, P3, with 1 Gb of ram, was quite satisfactory for many years. Regards, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 09:56:52PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: Hard drives aren't *that* expensive, are they? This is a pervasive attitude. Yes, unless you have a recent box, adding reliable drive space can be a pain. Where can I buy a new drive under 8 GB for my 486? It calls any larger drive an error. I don't know if I could put an 80 GB drive in my PII. Why are you so attached to your PII? I'm in Canada too, and I bought (vfxweb.com) an old PIII-733, added 0.5 Gb RAM and a used CD-RW ($25.00), all of which adds up to a screamer (running the apps I use) for under $200. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am 2007-11-24 00:39:21, schrieb s. keeling: [I've always enjoyed seeing that word schrieb in posts by German speakers. It's always seemed so deliciously exotic. :-) ] You're defining what you want with a negative. You don't care about X. What do you care about? no bloatware because he can not use it (maybe he live in a country where he is lucky to have a Am486dx4-100 with 64 MByte of memory -- I know some Hey, my old machine! It used to be a i486DX33, but I got it all the way to 96Mb (in SIMM stackers 72 pin -- 30(?) pin) with 486dx4-100, all SCSI! My first baby steps, home-built server. RIP 2000. :-| Usenet News has plenty of non-X related groups. comp.unix.shell might be to your liking, or one of the Debian related alt groups. The problem is, that NOT ALL users can read usenet... http://groups.google.com, for searching, not posting. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Am 2007-11-23 19:42:32, schrieb SPKills: All is in the question... As i don't (almost) ever used the X server then i'm not really able to help others and not really interested in their problems, i would like to know if it exists a list of this kind. Thx ! (ps: i checked out debian website but couldn't find..) - END OF REPLIED MESSAGE - I do not know of such list, but maybe, you could create your own one on yahoogroups.com (Yeah, it has changed to HTML-Crap) but I can not recommend googlegroops.com since only GMail-Users/Spamer can subscribe there. -- In general, the same crap as Yahoogroups. Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Konzack Tamay Dogan Network Open Hardware Developer Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSN LinuxMichi 0033/6/6192519367100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) signature.pgp Description: Digital signature
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Am 2007-11-24 00:39:21, schrieb s. keeling: You're defining what you want with a negative. You don't care about X. What do you care about? What if, he do not need any X-Releted stuff because he has no x-desktop, no bloatware because he can not use it (maybe he live in a country where he is lucky to have a Am486dx4-100 with 64 MByte of memory -- I know some people in middle-africa which use such computers with DOS-Programs... which could be replaced by a GNU/Linux system...) Usenet News has plenty of non-X related groups. comp.unix.shell might be to your liking, or one of the Debian related alt groups. The problem is, that NOT ALL users can read usenet... Also consider irc if you lean that way. #debian on irc.freenode.net? I like irssi (but use it very infrequently). I do not like the console-irc-clients under linux... The DOS ones went better... :-) long time ago... Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Konzack Tamay Dogan Network Open Hardware Developer Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSN LinuxMichi 0033/6/6192519367100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) signature.pgp Description: Digital signature
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On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 09:56:52PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: Hard drives aren't *that* expensive, are they? This is a pervasive attitude. Yes, unless you have a recent box, adding reliable drive space can be a pain. Where can I buy a new drive under 8 GB for my 486? It calls any larger drive an error. I don't know if I could put an 80 GB drive in my PII. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/29/07 08:44, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 09:56:52PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: Hard drives aren't *that* expensive, are they? This is a pervasive attitude. Yes, unless you have a recent box, adding reliable drive space can be a pain. Where can I buy a new drive under 8 GB for my 486? It calls any larger drive an error. Linux shouldn't do that. Besides, Wal-Mart sells new Linux boxes for US$200. I don't know if I could put an 80 GB drive in my PII. Why not? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA %SYSTEM-F-FISH, my hovercraft is full of eels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHTtdwS9HxQb37XmcRAszbAKCsfdgnHVSOb1Te00d4N2LApH3p3gCg1wZT 9WLsRomY76WR87s4PDbzHOs= =ZZYZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 09:44:28AM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: reliable drive space can be a pain. Where can I buy a new drive under 8 GB for my 486? It calls any larger drive an error. go to the BIOS and set it to no drive is present for such a drive. You cannot use it as boot drive (but you can boot from floppy or cd or another drive), but once booted Linux will use it. -- Chi usa software non libero avvelena anche te. Digli di smettere. Informatica=arsenico: minime dosi in rari casi patologici, altrimenti letale. Informatica=bomba: intelligente solo per gli stupidi che ci credono. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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* David Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-11-28 18:56:04 -0800]: Could you share setup scripts and/or howto's ? I started to get this working when I migrated to gmail a few months ago, but never got it working the way I wanted. There was some confusion on how to set up ssl certificates (and there was a lot of mention about how to make this more secure than by default) so I only got the fetchmail part of it working. But the sending part still needs to be worked on. I have used postfix in the past with my other email domain, which no longer is available. This is why I use msmtp to send mail from mutt. Postfix is set up for local local delivery only, and does not operate chrooted re the Debian SELinux wiki on selinux setup. msmtp allows multiple accounts for sending, selectable within mutt, and is quite easy to set up. Postfix, on the other hand, is a bit more arcane in it's setup procedures - and does not readily allow multiple smtp accounts for sending mail. ssl is fully supported with msmtp as well. So: fetchmail-procmail for popping external mail, msmtp for sending external mail via smtp with ssl, and postfix-procmail for system messages (logs and the like) delivered to my inbox. Regards, Klein I sort of miss not having the mail stored locally on my computer, and the web interface to mail is slower than sylpheed and mutt of course. But then again, gmail is extending me a lot more free space for mail than I have space for to bring down it all :) and always growing -- every day it seems my storage space is increasing by a few megabytes :). Regards, Klein -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHTftId43JlErxgiQRApOeAJ4mRq8kPWQLoRPviGQRUwW8FoBrcwCgutln y4/B2ZsY8QzBSzva7T97qTc= =AEbd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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On 11/23/07, SPKills [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All is in the question... As i don't (almost) ever used the X server then i'm not really able to help others and not really interested in their problems, i would like to know if it exists a list of this kind. I didn't realize you could use gmail from the command line. -- ...Michael M. Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thus, though we cannot make our sun Stand still, yet we will make him run. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 12:15:05PM -0800, Michael M. Moore wrote: On 11/23/07, SPKills [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All is in the question... As i don't (almost) ever used the X server then i'm not really able to help others and not really interested in their problems, i would like to know if it exists a list of this kind. I didn't realize you could use gmail from the command line. Though not 100% standard, but gmail has pop access and I hear also imap. Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/28/07 14:43, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 12:15:05PM -0800, Michael M. Moore wrote: On 11/23/07, SPKills [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All is in the question... As i don't (almost) ever used the X server then i'm not really able to help others and not really interested in their problems, i would like to know if it exists a list of this kind. I didn't realize you could use gmail from the command line. Though not 100% standard, but gmail has pop access and I hear also imap. fetchmail can grab it using POP, correct? And postfix/exim can relay it back to gmail.com. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA %SYSTEM-F-FISH, my hovercraft is full of eels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHTd5yS9HxQb37XmcRAqgsAKCpLf6vRf2uT5R5PjIi/8lRVW44/QCeL8uq UCbHWQEuKPi2TVi+V1z+Zs4= =T0j2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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* Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-11-28 15:32:34 -0600]: fetchmail can grab it using POP, correct? And postfix/exim can relay it back to gmail.com. I pop gmail with fetchmail, filter thru procmail/spamassassin, read with mutt, send thru gmail with msmtp. Doing this for years. Regards, Klein signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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On Nov 28, 2007 3:35 PM, Klein Moebius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I pop gmail with fetchmail, filter thru procmail/spamassassin, read with mutt, send thru gmail with msmtp. Doing this for years. Could you share setup scripts and/or howto's ? I started to get this working when I migrated to gmail a few months ago, but never got it working the way I wanted. There was some confusion on how to set up ssl certificates (and there was a lot of mention about how to make this more secure than by default) so I only got the fetchmail part of it working. But the sending part still needs to be worked on. I have used postfix in the past with my other email domain, which no longer is available. I sort of miss not having the mail stored locally on my computer, and the web interface to mail is slower than sylpheed and mutt of course. But then again, gmail is extending me a lot more free space for mail than I have space for to bring down it all :) and always growing -- every day it seems my storage space is increasing by a few megabytes :). Regards, Klein -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHTftId43JlErxgiQRApOeAJ4mRq8kPWQLoRPviGQRUwW8FoBrcwCgutln y4/B2ZsY8QzBSzva7T97qTc= =AEbd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/28/07 20:56, David Fox wrote: On Nov 28, 2007 3:35 PM, Klein Moebius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I pop gmail with fetchmail, filter thru procmail/spamassassin, read with mutt, send thru gmail with msmtp. Doing this for years. Could you share setup scripts and/or howto's ? I started to get this working when I migrated to gmail a few months ago, but never got it working the way I wanted. There was some confusion on how to set up ssl certificates (and there was a lot of mention about how to make this more secure than by default) so I only got the fetchmail part of it working. But the sending part still needs to be worked on. I have used postfix in the past with my other email domain, which no longer is available. I sort of miss not having the mail stored locally on my computer, and the web interface to mail is slower than sylpheed and mutt of course. But then again, gmail is extending me a lot more free space for mail than I have space for to bring down it all :) and always growing -- Hard drives aren't *that* expensive, are they? every day it seems my storage space is increasing by a few megabytes :). - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA %SYSTEM-F-FISH, my hovercraft is full of eels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHTjiES9HxQb37XmcRAmZxAKDUT899iE2uT/pkDkNIO1mQ5cPCOwCfZOMj SOpXUSUqsRCz3Rc4JxOz7EQ= =qF4s -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 03:32:34PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: I didn't realize you could use gmail from the command line. Though not 100% standard, but gmail has pop access and I hear also imap. fetchmail can grab it using POP, correct? And postfix/exim can relay it back to gmail.com. It probably works with fetchmail, I use getmail. There are two things I can recall about gmail that are not standards compliant: 1. It automatically marks the mail you retrieve as deleted 2. It will add a Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] header which is incorrect as far as I understand from Charles Cazabon (developer of getmail). Also, gmail will relay email for you but it will rewrite the From: to your gmail address, so you can't use it for other addresses (OTOH you don't need to care about proper settings in your MUA or MTA). Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 06:56:04PM -0800, David Fox wrote: I sort of miss not having the mail stored locally on my computer, and the web interface to mail is slower than sylpheed and mutt of course. But then again, gmail is extending me a lot more free space for mail than I have space for to bring down it all :) and always growing -- every day it seems my storage space is increasing by a few megabytes :). Sounds like IMAP would be a good option. Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 06:56:04PM -0800, David Fox wrote: On Nov 28, 2007 3:35 PM, Klein Moebius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I pop gmail with fetchmail, filter thru procmail/spamassassin, read with mutt, send thru gmail with msmtp. Doing this for years. Could you share setup scripts and/or howto's ? I started to get this working when I migrated to gmail a few months ago, but never got it working the way I wanted. There was some confusion on how to set up ssl certificates (and there was a lot of mention about how to make this more secure than by default) so I only got the fetchmail part of it working. But the sending part still needs to be worked on. I have used postfix in the past with my other email domain, which no longer is available. http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki?title=Mail_-_sending Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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On Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 12:31:57AM +0100, s. keeling wrote: Paul Cartwright [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri November 23 2007, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: When was the last time we had a questio from someone wondering how do do something in ed? I still use ed commands.. not daily, but. I never learned ed, except in vi. There are unixes (mostly BSD) that don't have a single-user editor other than ed. The logic being that if /usr can't mount, there may also be a problem with termcap/terminfo. Ed is a nice small exec that can be statically linked and remain small. In my emergency toolkit I have ed's man page. I suppose editing a file on NetBSD's toaster with a 2-line display is easier in ed than vim. Now, if only I could get my head around re's. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 05:36:29PM -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote: On Fri November 23 2007, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: When was the last time we had a questio from someone wondering how do do something in ed? maybe BUT... when you use VI, you can still do the : commands that are ed based.. I use them all the time, I just got so used to them, I never ask questions about them.. :1,$s/whatever/whichever/g :%s/what/which/g % is short for everyline. saves two keystrokes!! to the OP, I don't know of one, but wouldn't be surprised if it exists. Maybe there is something appropriate on usenet? What I find interesting is the movement (one that I'm caught up in) to a more CLI based operation the X environment. Using xmonad, wmii or other keyboard based WM's using largely cli based apps within x-terms. COnnecting witha community like that may suit your needs more. X is still involved and pertinent, but it is not the focus so much as it would be within a more general user community like this. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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Paul Cartwright [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri November 23 2007, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: When was the last time we had a questio from someone wondering how do do something in ed? maybe BUT... when you use VI, you can still do the : commands that are ed based.. I use them all the time, I just got so used to them, I never ask questions about them.. :1,$s/whatever/whichever/g which means, on every line change whatever to whichever and do it for every occurrence on every line. Shorter: :%s/foo/bar/g# I think; untested. Been a while. I still use ed commands.. not daily, but. I never learned ed, except in vi. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Fri November 23 2007, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: When was the last time we had a questio from someone wondering how do do something in ed? maybe BUT... when you use VI, you can still do the : commands that are ed based.. I use them all the time, I just got so used to them, I never ask questions about them.. :1,$s/whatever/whichever/g which means, on every line change whatever to whichever and do it for every occurrence on every line. I still use ed commands.. not daily, but. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 Registered Ubuntu User #12459 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is it exist a mailing-list for console only users ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/23/07 12:42, SPKills wrote: All is in the question... As i don't (almost) ever used the X server then i'm not really able to help others and not really interested in their problems, i would like to know if it exists a list of this kind. You mean an ML dedicated to CLI tools and users? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA %SYSTEM-F-FISH, my hovercraft is full of eels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHRyC/S9HxQb37XmcRAqy1AJ92ao6Y8gwtdXUI1Xwcyd90yeByhgCfZYzx nwSG81IJUIKmcIWPVzmKSpI= =xmXc -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is it exist a mailing-list for console only users ?
On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 12:49:35PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On 11/23/07 12:42, SPKills wrote: All is in the question... As i don't (almost) ever used the X server then i'm not really able to help others and not really interested in their problems, i would like to know if it exists a list of this kind. You mean an ML dedicated to CLI tools and users? Given how much of DU is take up with X-related questions, that would be a really low-volume list. Evan a 300 baud modem could handle that traffic. Hey, vi was written to work over a 300 baud line. When was the last time we had a questio from someone wondering how do do something in ed? Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is it exist a mailing-list for console only users ?
SPKills [EMAIL PROTECTED]: All is in the question... No, it never is. As i don't (almost) ever used the X server then i'm not really able to help others and not really interested in their problems, i would like to know if it exists a list of this kind. You're defining what you want with a negative. You don't care about X. What do you care about? Usenet News has plenty of non-X related groups. comp.unix.shell might be to your liking, or one of the Debian related alt groups. Also consider irc if you lean that way. #debian on irc.freenode.net? I like irssi (but use it very infrequently). -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
