Re: Settings: focus when mouse over window?

2023-06-01 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jun 01, 2023 at 07:41:35PM +0200, Anders Andersson wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 6:44 AM  wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 01, 2023 at 12:08:29AM -0400, Nicholas Papadonis wrote:
> >
> > > I have the default Gnome WM installed.  Does it provide a similar option?
> >
> > I did a web search (no, not the google) with the terms
> >
> >   gnome metacity "focus follows mouse"
> >
> > (metacity is, AFAIK, Gnome's window manager) and the
> > answer seems to be... complex [...]

> I don't know why you would force "metacity" in there, it's *not* the
> window manager, so no wonder you get weird results.

[...]

As I said, my last interaction with Gnome is long time ago.
These days I don't use a desktop environment at all.

Cheers & thanks for the clarifications.

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Re: Settings: focus when mouse over window?

2023-06-01 Thread Anders Andersson
On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 6:44 AM  wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jun 01, 2023 at 12:08:29AM -0400, Nicholas Papadonis wrote:
>
> > I have the default Gnome WM installed.  Does it provide a similar option?
>
> I did a web search (no, not the google) with the terms
>
>   gnome metacity "focus follows mouse"
>
> (metacity is, AFAIK, Gnome's window manager) and the
> answer seems to be... complex: it depends on whether
> you use Wayland or not. It seems to "kind of work",
> but in different ways.
>
> Look also for "sloppy focus": in general you don't want
> your focused window to lose focus when you move the
> pointer to the "background window". But perhaps you do
> want that.

I don't know why you would force "metacity" in there, it's *not* the
window manager, so no wonder you get weird results.

Just enable "Focus on Hover" in the Gnome Tweaks settings: "Window is
focused when hovered with the pointer. Windows remain focused when the
desktop is hovered."

It has worked flawlessly for ages, as long as I've used Gnome 3 (the
default in debian for a long time), and there's no difference in
behaviour between wayland and xorg.



Re: Settings: focus when mouse over window?

2023-05-31 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jun 01, 2023 at 12:08:29AM -0400, Nicholas Papadonis wrote:

(please, don't top post: this makes mailing lists unreadable)

> I have the default Gnome WM installed.  Does it provide a similar option?

I did a web search (no, not the google) with the terms

  gnome metacity "focus follows mouse"

(metacity is, AFAIK, Gnome's window manager) and the
answer seems to be... complex: it depends on whether
you use Wayland or not. It seems to "kind of work",
but in different ways.

Look also for "sloppy focus": in general you don't want
your focused window to lose focus when you move the
pointer to the "background window". But perhaps you do
want that.

That all said, back then (> 10 years, so take this with
two fists of salt), when I tried that with Gnome, I never
found a satisfying setup. It seems the devels themselves
don't try that out very much.

And oh, yet another thing: of course, these days, where
half of the life happens in lots of little badly written
"applications" whithin the browser, all of them with
their half-implemented window manager... be prepared
to have some... media discontinuities (I hate browsers
for that).

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Re: Settings: focus when mouse over window?

2023-05-31 Thread tomas
On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 10:00:13PM -0600, Charles Curley wrote:
> On Wed, 31 May 2023 23:53:35 -0400
> Nicholas Papadonis  wrote:
> 
> > I installed Debian 11.  Does anyone know how to get this
> > functionality?  I looked through settings however didn't see an
> > option.
> 
> That would depend on which desktop you installed. In XFCE, Settings ->
> Window Manager -> Focus Model -> Focus follows mouse, and Raise on
> focus.

FWIW, I am one of those who have "focus follows mouse" and NOT "raise
on focus": I like typing into a terminal, for example, even when some
part of it is obscured. But then, I don't have XFCE, either :-)

> Does anybody read signatures any more?

I think I've read this somewhere...

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Re: Settings: focus when mouse over window?

2023-05-31 Thread Nicholas Papadonis
I have the default Gnome WM installed.  Does it provide a similar option?

On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 12:02 AM Charles Curley <
charlescur...@charlescurley.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 31 May 2023 23:53:35 -0400
> Nicholas Papadonis  wrote:
>
> > I installed Debian 11.  Does anyone know how to get this
> > functionality?  I looked through settings however didn't see an
> > option.
>
> That would depend on which desktop you installed. In XFCE, Settings ->
> Window Manager -> Focus Model -> Focus follows mouse, and Raise on
> focus.
>
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Re: Settings: focus when mouse over window?

2023-05-31 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 31 May 2023 23:53:35 -0400
Nicholas Papadonis  wrote:

> I installed Debian 11.  Does anyone know how to get this
> functionality?  I looked through settings however didn't see an
> option.

That would depend on which desktop you installed. In XFCE, Settings ->
Window Manager -> Focus Model -> Focus follows mouse, and Raise on
focus.

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