Re: X problem after update from REX to BO (detailed error messages now)

1997-09-27 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Fri, 26 Sep 1997, Lawrence wrote:

 Thank for your info. and yes the server compiled with a default font
 paths.
 
 By the way, I can still run startx with the following FontPath, and
 don't know you said your won't work?
 FontPath   tcp/localhost:7100
 FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/
 FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled
 FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled
 FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/
 FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/
 FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
 FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/

You can use this FontPath. However if xfs is running it will provide all
of the fonts to the server so only the tcp/localhost:7100 line is really
used. And if xfs is not running, the X server will crash when it tries to
contact the nonexistant font server.

So, in short: yes you can use it, but this FontPat has no advantage
compared to the single line
 FontPath   tcp/localhost:7100

Remco


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Re: X problem after update from REX to BO (detailed error messages now)

1997-09-26 Thread Lawrence
I tried to comment out ALL FontPath and I can't still run startx, though
the Font looks bad, xfs not running and the following commands give
error.  I am using xsvga, does it has a VERY default font!
  fsinfo -server localhost:7100
  fslsfonts -server localhost:7100



Remco Blaakmeer wrote:
 
 On Fri, 26 Sep 1997, Lawrence wrote:
 
  If I put 'FontPath tcp/localhost:7100' the very first line and follow
  by others font paths, do you think the X server will try to use the xfs,
  if fails it uses the others.
 
 Hmm, interesting thought. I'll try it.
 
 -- wait some time --
 
 No, it doesn't work. With this in XF86Config:
 FontPath   tcp/localhost:7100
 FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/
 FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled
 FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
 FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/
 FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/
 and xfs not running, I get:
 
 [all normal messages]
 (**) FontPath set to tcp/localhost:7100,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,
 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,
 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/
 [more normal messages]
 _FontTransSocketINETConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
 failed to set default font path
 'tcp/localhost:7100,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,
 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/'
 Fatal server error:
 could not open default font 'fixed'
 
 So, it turns out your suggestion doesn't work here.


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Re: X problem after update from REX to BO (detailed error messages now)

1997-09-26 Thread Lawrence
sorry, my previous post have some typo errors, here is the correct one.

I tried to comment out ALL FontPath and I CAN still run startx, though
the Font looks bad, xfs not running and the following commands give
error.  I am using xsvga, does it has a VERY default font!
  fsinfo -server localhost:7100
  fslsfonts -server localhost:7100

Why commenting out all FontPath and I can still run startx?

Lawrence


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Re: X problem after update from REX to BO (detailed error messages now)

1997-09-26 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Fri, 26 Sep 1997, Lawrence wrote:

 sorry, my previous post have some typo errors, here is the correct one.
 
 I tried to comment out ALL FontPath and I CAN still run startx, though
 the Font looks bad, xfs not running and the following commands give
 error.  I am using xsvga, does it has a VERY default font!
   fsinfo -server localhost:7100
   fslsfonts -server localhost:7100
 
 Why commenting out all FontPath and I can still run startx?

Because of this (I tried it, too):

$ X -probeonly

[normal messages]
Warning: No FontPath specified, using compiled-in default.
Warning: The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ does not exist.
 Entry deleted from font path.
(--) FontPath set to 
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
[more normal messages]

You see, if you don't say where the fonts are the X server tries to find
them itself.

Remco


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Re: X problem after update from REX to BO (detailed error messages now)

1997-09-26 Thread Lawrence
Remco Blaakmeer wrote:
 
 On Fri, 26 Sep 1997, Lawrence wrote:
 
  sorry, my previous post have some typo errors, here is the correct one.
 
  I tried to comment out ALL FontPath and I CAN still run startx, though
  the Font looks bad, xfs not running and the following commands give
  error.  I am using xsvga, does it has a VERY default font!
fsinfo -server localhost:7100
fslsfonts -server localhost:7100
 
  Why commenting out all FontPath and I can still run startx?
 
 Because of this (I tried it, too):
 
 $ X -probeonly
 
 [normal messages]
 Warning: No FontPath specified, using compiled-in default.
 Warning: The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ does not exist.
  Entry deleted from font path.
 (--) FontPath set to 
 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,
 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
 [more normal messages]
 
 You see, if you don't say where the fonts are the X server tries to find
 them itself.

Thank for your info. and yes the server compiled with a default font
paths.

By the way, I can still run startx with the following FontPath, and
don't know you said your won't work?
FontPath   tcp/localhost:7100
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/

Lawrence


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Re: X problem after update from REX to BO (detailed error messages now)

1997-09-25 Thread Andy Spiegl
According to Steve Hsieh  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I encountered the same problem.  Doing a 
 
  mkfontdir /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/*
 
 seems to fix the problem for Xfree servers; it still doesn't work after
 that for AcceleratedX though.

Thanks a lot for the hint.  Unfortunately it doesn't work for me. :-(

I still get these error messages:  (this time all of them)
XFree86 Version 3.3 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300)
Release Date: Jun  2 1997
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer
than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting
problems.  (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Operating System: Linux 2.0.21 i486 [ELF] 
Configured drivers:
  Mach64: accelerated server for ATI Mach64 graphics adaptors (Patchlevel 0)
(using VT number 4)

XF86Config: /etc/X11/XF86Config
(**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values
(**) XKB: rules: xfree86
(**) XKB: model: pc102
(**) XKB: layout: de
(**) XKB: variant: nodeadkeys
(**) Mouse: type: MouseMan, device: /dev/mouse, baudrate: 1200
(**) Mach64: Graphics device ID: ATI Graphics Pro Turbo
(**) Mach64: Monitor ID: MAG-MX17S
(**) FontPath set to tcp/localhost:7100
(--) Mach64: PCI: Mach64 GX rev 3, Aperture @ 0xfa00, Sparse I/O @ 0x02ec
(--) Mach64: card type: PCI
(--) Mach64: Memory type: 5
(--) Mach64: Clock type: ATI18818-1/ICS2595
(--) Mach64: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 135.000 MHz
(**) Mach64: Mode 1152x864: mode clock =  92.000
(**) Mach64: Mode 1024x768: mode clock =  85.000
(**) Mach64: Mode 800x600: mode clock =  50.000
(**) Mach64: Mode 640x480: mode clock =  31.500
(**) Mach64: Mode 1280x1024: mode clock =  80.000
(**) Mach64: Virtual resolution: 1280x1024
(--) Mach64: videoram: 4096k
(--) Mach64: Using hardware cursor
(--) Mach64: Using 8 MB aperture @ 0xfa00
(--) Mach64: Ramdac is ATI68860 Rev C
(**) Mach64: Color weight: 565
(--) Mach64: Pixmap cache: 1 256x256 slots, 2 128x128 slots, 8 64x64 slots
(--) Mach64: Font cache: 16 fonts

Fatal server error:
could not open default font 'fixed'

When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send
the full server output, not just the last messages

_X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
giving up.
xinit:  Connection refused (errno 111):  unable to connect to X server
xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.

Please, please someone help me.  It is so frustrating to work on
the text console only.

TALIA,
 Andy.

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Re: X problem after update from REX to BO (detailed error messages now)

1997-09-25 Thread Bob Clark
Looks like you're missing the FontPath line(s) in the
Files section of /etc/X11/XF86Config.  Try man XF86Config.

Andy Spiegl wrote:
 
 According to Steve Hsieh  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  I encountered the same problem.  Doing a
 
   mkfontdir /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/*
 
  seems to fix the problem for Xfree servers; it still doesn't work after
  that for AcceleratedX though.
 
 Thanks a lot for the hint.  Unfortunately it doesn't work for me. :-(
 
 I still get these error messages:  (this time all of them)
 XFree86 Version 3.3 / X Window System
 (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300)
 Release Date: Jun  2 1997
 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer
 than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting
 problems.  (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
 Operating System: Linux 2.0.21 i486 [ELF]
 Configured drivers:
   Mach64: accelerated server for ATI Mach64 graphics adaptors (Patchlevel 0)
 (using VT number 4)
 
 XF86Config: /etc/X11/XF86Config
 (**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values
 (**) XKB: rules: xfree86
 (**) XKB: model: pc102
 (**) XKB: layout: de
 (**) XKB: variant: nodeadkeys
 (**) Mouse: type: MouseMan, device: /dev/mouse, baudrate: 1200
 (**) Mach64: Graphics device ID: ATI Graphics Pro Turbo
 (**) Mach64: Monitor ID: MAG-MX17S
 (**) FontPath set to tcp/localhost:7100
 (--) Mach64: PCI: Mach64 GX rev 3, Aperture @ 0xfa00, Sparse I/O @ 0x02ec
 (--) Mach64: card type: PCI
 (--) Mach64: Memory type: 5
 (--) Mach64: Clock type: ATI18818-1/ICS2595
 (--) Mach64: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 135.000 MHz
 (**) Mach64: Mode 1152x864: mode clock =  92.000
 (**) Mach64: Mode 1024x768: mode clock =  85.000
 (**) Mach64: Mode 800x600: mode clock =  50.000
 (**) Mach64: Mode 640x480: mode clock =  31.500
 (**) Mach64: Mode 1280x1024: mode clock =  80.000
 (**) Mach64: Virtual resolution: 1280x1024
 (--) Mach64: videoram: 4096k
 (--) Mach64: Using hardware cursor
 (--) Mach64: Using 8 MB aperture @ 0xfa00
 (--) Mach64: Ramdac is ATI68860 Rev C
 (**) Mach64: Color weight: 565
 (--) Mach64: Pixmap cache: 1 256x256 slots, 2 128x128 slots, 8 64x64 slots
 (--) Mach64: Font cache: 16 fonts
 
 Fatal server error:
 could not open default font 'fixed'
 
 When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send
 the full server output, not just the last messages
 
 _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
 giving up.
 xinit:  Connection refused (errno 111):  unable to connect to X server
 xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.
 
 Please, please someone help me.  It is so frustrating to work on
 the text console only.
 
 TALIA,
  Andy.


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Re: X problem after update from REX to BO (detailed error messages now)

1997-09-25 Thread Andy Spiegl
According to Bob Clark  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Looks like you're missing the FontPath line(s) in the
 Files section of /etc/X11/XF86Config.  Try man XF86Config.

You are right, I commented out the FontPath lines in XF86Config,
but I am running xfs.  Shouldn't that provide all the fonts?

Thanks,
 Andy.

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Re: X problem after update from REX to BO (detailed error messages now)

1997-09-25 Thread Scott Ellis


On 25 Sep 1997, Andy Spiegl wrote:

 According to Bob Clark  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  Looks like you're missing the FontPath line(s) in the
  Files section of /etc/X11/XF86Config.  Try man XF86Config.
 
 You are right, I commented out the FontPath lines in XF86Config,
 but I am running xfs.  Shouldn't that provide all the fonts?

You need to tell X to use the xfs server in your FontPath line then.
Check the howtos for details.


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Re: X problem after update from REX to BO (detailed error messages now)

1997-09-25 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Thu, 25 Sep 1997, Scott Ellis wrote: 

 
 
 On 25 Sep 1997, Andy Spiegl wrote: 
 
  According to Bob Clark  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
   Looks like you're missing the FontPath line(s) in the
   Files section of /etc/X11/XF86Config.  Try man XF86Config.
  
  You are right, I commented out the FontPath lines in XF86Config,
  but I am running xfs.  Shouldn't that provide all the fonts?
 
 You need to tell X to use the xfs server in your FontPath line then. 
 Check the howtos for details. 

I took a look at the output of the X server in an earlier post and it
already uses xfs for the fonts. But you have to configure xfs so that it
looks in the right place for the fonts. Take a look at the 'catalogue'
line in /etc/X11/xfs/config. You have to set this to exactly the set of
font dirs that you have. Xfs is very unforgiving if you specify an
unexisting or empty directory (dumps core on my computer). I encountered
the same problem when I wanted to start using xfs for the fonts and found
that I had to remove the '100dpi' directory from the 'catalogue' line. It
now works fine for me. 

Remco



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Re: X problem after update from REX to BO (detailed error messages now)

1997-09-25 Thread Civ Kevin F. Havener
You didn't say (and I can't figure out from your error messages) whether 
or not you are using AcceleratedX.  If so, you need to go into all of 
your font directories and gunzip the fonts, then ncompress them if you 
have it, then do the mkfontdir step.  AcceleratedX can't do gzipped 
fonts, but it does understand compressed fonts.  If this is your problem, 
I can forward you a message from Xi Graphics support that gives you the 
step by step details.

Kevin
On 25 Sep 1997, Andy Spiegl wrote:

 According to Steve Hsieh  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  I encountered the same problem.  Doing a 
  
   mkfontdir /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/*
  
  seems to fix the problem for Xfree servers; it still doesn't work after
  that for AcceleratedX though.
 
 Thanks a lot for the hint.  Unfortunately it doesn't work for me. :-(
 
 I still get these error messages:  (this time all of them)
 XFree86 Version 3.3 / X Window System
 (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300)
 Release Date: Jun  2 1997
 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer
 than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting
 problems.  (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
 Operating System: Linux 2.0.21 i486 [ELF] 
 Configured drivers:
   Mach64: accelerated server for ATI Mach64 graphics adaptors (Patchlevel 0)
 (using VT number 4)
 
 XF86Config: /etc/X11/XF86Config
 (**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values
 (**) XKB: rules: xfree86
 (**) XKB: model: pc102
 (**) XKB: layout: de
 (**) XKB: variant: nodeadkeys
 (**) Mouse: type: MouseMan, device: /dev/mouse, baudrate: 1200
 (**) Mach64: Graphics device ID: ATI Graphics Pro Turbo
 (**) Mach64: Monitor ID: MAG-MX17S
 (**) FontPath set to tcp/localhost:7100
 (--) Mach64: PCI: Mach64 GX rev 3, Aperture @ 0xfa00, Sparse I/O @ 0x02ec
 (--) Mach64: card type: PCI
 (--) Mach64: Memory type: 5
 (--) Mach64: Clock type: ATI18818-1/ICS2595
 (--) Mach64: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 135.000 MHz
 (**) Mach64: Mode 1152x864: mode clock =  92.000
 (**) Mach64: Mode 1024x768: mode clock =  85.000
 (**) Mach64: Mode 800x600: mode clock =  50.000
 (**) Mach64: Mode 640x480: mode clock =  31.500
 (**) Mach64: Mode 1280x1024: mode clock =  80.000
 (**) Mach64: Virtual resolution: 1280x1024
 (--) Mach64: videoram: 4096k
 (--) Mach64: Using hardware cursor
 (--) Mach64: Using 8 MB aperture @ 0xfa00
 (--) Mach64: Ramdac is ATI68860 Rev C
 (**) Mach64: Color weight: 565
 (--) Mach64: Pixmap cache: 1 256x256 slots, 2 128x128 slots, 8 64x64 slots
 (--) Mach64: Font cache: 16 fonts
 
 Fatal server error:
 could not open default font 'fixed'
 
 When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send
 the full server output, not just the last messages
 
 _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
 giving up.
 xinit:  Connection refused (errno 111):  unable to connect to X server
 xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.
 
 Please, please someone help me.  It is so frustrating to work on
 the text console only.
 
 TALIA,
  Andy.
 
  Andy Spiegl, University of Technology, Muenchen, Germany
  E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] OR: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  URL:http://www.appl-math.tu-muenchen.de/~spiegl
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Re: X problem after update from REX to BO (detailed error messages now)

1997-09-25 Thread Lawrence
 I took a look at the output of the X server in an earlier post and it
 already uses xfs for the fonts. But you have to configure xfs so that it
 looks in the right place for the fonts. Take a look at the 'catalogue'
 line in /etc/X11/xfs/config. You have to set this to exactly the set of
 font dirs that you have. Xfs is very unforgiving if you specify an
 unexisting or empty directory (dumps core on my computer). I encountered
 the same problem when I wanted to start using xfs for the fonts and found
 that I had to remove the '100dpi' directory from the 'catalogue' line. It
 now works fine for me.

What is the xfs for?  Why using it?  Though I don't this daemon, I have
no problem using X11.


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Re: X problem after update from REX to BO (detailed error messages now)

1997-09-25 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Thu, 25 Sep 1997, Civ Kevin F. Havener wrote:

 You didn't say (and I can't figure out from your error messages) whether 
 or not you are using AcceleratedX.  If so, you need to go into all of 
 your font directories and gunzip the fonts, then ncompress them if you 
 have it, then do the mkfontdir step.  AcceleratedX can't do gzipped 
 fonts, but it does understand compressed fonts.  If this is your problem, 
 I can forward you a message from Xi Graphics support that gives you the 
 step by step details.

But that doesn't matter if you use xfs for the fonts. Just configure xfs,
set the FontPath of the X server to tcp/localhost:7100 and you're all
set. Then xfs will handle the fonts (gzipped or not) and the X server uses
a standard protocol to ask xfs for them.

Remco



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Re: X problem after update from REX to BO (detailed error messages now)

1997-09-25 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Fri, 26 Sep 1997, Lawrence wrote:

  I took a look at the output of the X server in an earlier post and it
  already uses xfs for the fonts. But you have to configure xfs so that it
  looks in the right place for the fonts. Take a look at the 'catalogue'
  line in /etc/X11/xfs/config. You have to set this to exactly the set of
  font dirs that you have. Xfs is very unforgiving if you specify an
  unexisting or empty directory (dumps core on my computer). I encountered
  the same problem when I wanted to start using xfs for the fonts and found
  that I had to remove the '100dpi' directory from the 'catalogue' line. It
  now works fine for me.
 
 What is the xfs for?  Why using it?  Though I don't this daemon, I have
 no problem using X11.

Xfs is the X Font Server. You won't have much problems if you don't use
it, but it seems to be better than letting the X server manage the fonts
in some cases. For example, you don't have to gunzip all fonts if you are
using an X server that doesn't understand gzipped fonts. And of course you
can use one font server to serve a whole network of X servers (I have no
idea what the performance would be).

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Re: X problem after update from REX to BO (detailed error messages now)

1997-09-25 Thread Andy Spiegl
According to Remco Blaakmeer  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 I took a look at the output of the X server in an earlier post and it
 already uses xfs for the fonts. But you have to configure xfs so that it
 looks in the right place for the fonts. Take a look at the 'catalogue'
 line in /etc/X11/xfs/config. You have to set this to exactly the set of
 font dirs that you have. Xfs is very unforgiving if you specify an
 unexisting or empty directory (dumps core on my computer). I encountered
 the same problem when I wanted to start using xfs for the fonts and found
 that I had to remove the '100dpi' directory from the 'catalogue' line. It
 now works fine for me. 

I experienced exactly the same, when I first updated the fonts, but
not the Xserver.  I had to play around with the Catalogue line until
only the valid paths were listed.  Then I updated to XFree86 3.3 and
could restore the previous Catalogue line.  So, I think xfs should
be configured fine.  Is there any way to make xfs list the fonts it
can serve?  In order to check the configuration?

If that's not it, I am still clueless.  Should I - maybe - completely
purge X and reinstall it?  I'd hate to do it, but if there is no other
way...

Thanks to all,
 Andy.

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Re: X problem after update from REX to BO (detailed error messages now)

1997-09-25 Thread Lawrence
Andy Spiegl wrote:
 
 According to Remco Blaakmeer  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  I took a look at the output of the X server in an earlier post and it
  already uses xfs for the fonts. But you have to configure xfs so that it
  looks in the right place for the fonts. Take a look at the 'catalogue'
  line in /etc/X11/xfs/config. You have to set this to exactly the set of
  font dirs that you have. Xfs is very unforgiving if you specify an
  unexisting or empty directory (dumps core on my computer). I encountered
  the same problem when I wanted to start using xfs for the fonts and found
  that I had to remove the '100dpi' directory from the 'catalogue' line. It
  now works fine for me.
 
 I experienced exactly the same, when I first updated the fonts, but
 not the Xserver.  I had to play around with the Catalogue line until
 only the valid paths were listed.  Then I updated to XFree86 3.3 and
 could restore the previous Catalogue line.  So, I think xfs should
 be configured fine.  Is there any way to make xfs list the fonts it
 can serve?  In order to check the configuration?
 
 If that's not it, I am still clueless.  Should I - maybe - completely
 purge X and reinstall it?  I'd hate to do it, but if there is no other
 way...
 

maybe, have a script to parse/verify/modify the font paths.

Lawrence


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Re: X problem after update from REX to BO (detailed error messages now)

1997-09-25 Thread Lawrence
 Xfs is the X Font Server. You won't have much problems if you don't use
 it, but it seems to be better than letting the X server manage the fonts
 in some cases. For example, you don't have to gunzip all fonts if you are
 using an X server that doesn't understand gzipped fonts. And of course you
 can use one font server to serve a whole network of X servers (I have no
 idea what the performance would be).

do you mean that X11 uses the xfs if the daemon is running, otherwise,
it does it by its own?

Lawrence


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Re: X problem after update from REX to BO (detailed error messages now)

1997-09-25 Thread David Wright
On 25 Sep 1997, Andy Spiegl wrote:

 According to Remco Blaakmeer  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
  I took a look at the output of the X server in an earlier post and it
  already uses xfs for the fonts. But you have to configure xfs so that it
  looks in the right place for the fonts. Take a look at the 'catalogue'
  line in /etc/X11/xfs/config. You have to set this to exactly the set of
  font dirs that you have. Xfs is very unforgiving if you specify an
  unexisting or empty directory (dumps core on my computer). I encountered
  the same problem when I wanted to start using xfs for the fonts and found
  that I had to remove the '100dpi' directory from the 'catalogue' line. It
  now works fine for me. 
 
 I experienced exactly the same, when I first updated the fonts, but
 not the Xserver.  I had to play around with the Catalogue line until
 only the valid paths were listed.  Then I updated to XFree86 3.3 and
 could restore the previous Catalogue line.  So, I think xfs should
 be configured fine.  Is there any way to make xfs list the fonts it
 can serve?  In order to check the configuration?

Look at fsinfo and fslsfonts (and anything else starting with fs).
(BTW I /did/ think you were running a different Xserver in my private
mail - perhaps something I misread in an earlier post.)
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Re: X problem after update from REX to BO (detailed error messages now)

1997-09-25 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On 25 Sep 1997, Andy Spiegl wrote:

 According to Remco Blaakmeer  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
  I took a look at the output of the X server in an earlier post and it
  already uses xfs for the fonts. But you have to configure xfs so that it
  looks in the right place for the fonts. Take a look at the 'catalogue'
  line in /etc/X11/xfs/config. You have to set this to exactly the set of
  font dirs that you have. Xfs is very unforgiving if you specify an
  unexisting or empty directory (dumps core on my computer). I encountered
  the same problem when I wanted to start using xfs for the fonts and found
  that I had to remove the '100dpi' directory from the 'catalogue' line. It
  now works fine for me. 
 
 I experienced exactly the same, when I first updated the fonts, but
 not the Xserver.  I had to play around with the Catalogue line until
 only the valid paths were listed.  Then I updated to XFree86 3.3 and
 could restore the previous Catalogue line.  So, I think xfs should
 be configured fine.  Is there any way to make xfs list the fonts it
 can serve?  In order to check the configuration?

Try:

fsinfo -server localhost:7100
fslsfonts -server localhost:7100

 If that's not it, I am still clueless.  Should I - maybe - completely
 purge X and reinstall it?  I'd hate to do it, but if there is no other
 way...

If xfs is properly configured and running, and if the FontPath in
XF86Config is set to tcp/localhost:7100, there should really be no
problem.

Remco


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Re: X problem after update from REX to BO (detailed error messages now)

1997-09-25 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Fri, 26 Sep 1997, Lawrence wrote:

  Xfs is the X Font Server. You won't have much problems if you don't use
  it, but it seems to be better than letting the X server manage the fonts
  in some cases. For example, you don't have to gunzip all fonts if you are
  using an X server that doesn't understand gzipped fonts. And of course you
  can use one font server to serve a whole network of X servers (I have no
  idea what the performance would be).
 
 do you mean that X11 uses the xfs if the daemon is running, otherwise,
 it does it by its own?

No, you will have to tell the X server that it must use the font server.
Look in /etc/X11/XF86Config for some lines like:
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
Place a '#' in front of all those lines, and add a line:
FontPath   tcp/localhost:7100

This will cause the X server to try to make the connection with xfs at
localhost, port 7100. If xfs is not running, the X server will fail to
start because it can't find any fonts.

Remco



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Re: X problem after update from REX to BO (detailed error messages now)

1997-09-25 Thread Lawrence
Remco Blaakmeer wrote:
 No, you will have to tell the X server that it must use the font server.
 Look in /etc/X11/XF86Config for some lines like:
 FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
 Place a '#' in front of all those lines, and add a line:
 FontPath   tcp/localhost:7100
 
 This will cause the X server to try to make the connection with xfs at
 localhost, port 7100. If xfs is not running, the X server will fail to
 start because it can't find any fonts.

If I put 'FontPath tcp/localhost:7100' the very first line and follow
by others font paths, do you think the X server will try to use the xfs,
if fails it uses the others.

Lawrence


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Re: X problem after update from REX to BO (detailed error messages now)

1997-09-25 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Fri, 26 Sep 1997, Lawrence wrote:

 If I put 'FontPath tcp/localhost:7100' the very first line and follow
 by others font paths, do you think the X server will try to use the xfs,
 if fails it uses the others.

Hmm, interesting thought. I'll try it.

-- wait some time --

No, it doesn't work. With this in XF86Config:
FontPath   tcp/localhost:7100
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/
FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/
and xfs not running, I get:

[all normal messages]
(**) FontPath set to tcp/localhost:7100,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/ 
[more normal messages]
_FontTransSocketINETConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
failed to set default font path
'tcp/localhost:7100,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/'
Fatal server error:
could not open default font 'fixed'

So, it turns out your suggestion doesn't work here.

Remco



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