Re: any way to get the mouse position on two places on the screen?

2013-09-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 05:34:22AM -0400, Albretch Mueller wrote:
  You can tell ffmpeg to screen capture one area of the screen and make a clip

JFYI,

apt-cache show ffmpeg
[...]
This package contains the deprecated ffmpeg program.

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Re: any way to get the mouse position on two places on the screen?

2013-09-21 Thread Albretch Mueller
 Ksnapshot for capturing a screen shot
~
 actually Ksnapshot has this functionality built-in somehow. You can
tell it to make a snapshot of the current window instead of the whole
screen
~
 Are you trying to fix a lack in a video editing app without touching the app 
 itself, or are you looking for ideas on functionality to add to an app with 
 appropriate source code, etc.?
~
 OK, this would be a use case of what I have in mind. Most of the
times it is hard to figure out what users have in their mind (heck! I
notice how even technical people frequently crosstalk each other) so
you want for them to be able to do whatever it is they were trying to
and verbally explain what they mean as they do in their own words
(that, to me, would be the closest you can get to what they have in
their minds)
~
 You can tell ffmpeg to screen capture one area of the screen and make a clip
~
 The user could post that file for you to see what they mean
~
 lbrtchx


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Re: any way to get the mouse position on two places on the screen?

2013-09-21 Thread Rob Owens
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 11:48:32AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
 On Lu, 22 iul 13, 13:18:50, Albretch Mueller wrote:
   I think I should have worded the question as:
  ~
   any way to get the mouse position on the screen (so that then you
  would then take a second one in order to calculate the rectangular
  viewing area on a screen (showing a video))?
  ~
I think xev will give you this.  Run it in a terminal.  Then you have to 
position the mouse pointer over the Event Tester window, and the
terminal will show you the mouse position.  You can move the Event
Tester window to different parts of the screen -- wherever you need to
get coordinates.

-Rob


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Re: any way to get the mouse position on two places on the screen?

2013-09-20 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 22 iul 13, 13:18:50, Albretch Mueller wrote:
  I think I should have worded the question as:
 ~
  any way to get the mouse position on the screen (so that then you
 would then take a second one in order to calculate the rectangular
 viewing area on a screen (showing a video))?
 ~

I think this is just another case of the XY problem.
http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=542341

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: any way to get the mouse position on two places on the screen?

2013-09-20 Thread Joel Rees
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 10:18 PM, Albretch Mueller lbrt...@gmail.com wrote:
  I think I should have worded the question as:
 ~
  any way to get the mouse position on the screen (so that then you
 would then take a second one in order to calculate the rectangular
 viewing area on a screen (showing a video))?
 ~
  lbrtchx

Are you trying to fix a lack in a video editing app without touching
the app itself, or are you looking for ideas on functionality to add
to an app with appropriate source code, etc.?

If the former, I'm wondering how you expect the app to recognize the
two cursors, how you expect to tell the app which is for what, etc.

If the latter, you might launch your copy of the gimp (or photoshop)
and check the cloning function to see one example of where an app
remembers one cursor location for use at another. (And other
suggestions have already been made.)

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Re: any way to get the mouse position on two places on the screen?

2013-09-20 Thread Joel Rees
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Andrei POPESCU
andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Lu, 22 iul 13, 13:18:50, Albretch Mueller wrote:
  I think I should have worded the question as:
 ~
  any way to get the mouse position on the screen (so that then you
 would then take a second one in order to calculate the rectangular
 viewing area on a screen (showing a video))?
 ~

 I think this is just another case of the XY problem.

The first thought is, as in coordinates. 8-*

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 Kind regards,
 Andrei

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Re: any way to get the mouse position on two places on the screen?

2013-09-20 Thread Doug
On 09/20/2013 06:29 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 10:18 PM, Albretch Mueller lbrt...@gmail.com wrote:
  I think I should have worded the question as:
 ~
  any way to get the mouse position on the screen (so that then you
 would then take a second one in order to calculate the rectangular
 viewing area on a screen (showing a video))?
 ~
  lbrtchx
 
/snip/

 If the latter, you might launch your copy of the gimp (or photoshop)
 and check the cloning function to see one example of where an app
 remembers one cursor location for use at another. (And other
 suggestions have already been made.)
 
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Also, just about any CAD program can find two points on the screen, one
at a time, to be sure, but it knows the coordinates of each point,
and can measure the distance between them or construct a line joining
them, and calculate the angle of the line. Or construct a rectangle
using the points as opposite corners. You may even be able to select
/three/ points and construct a circle that includes them.

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Re: any way to get the mouse position on two places on the screen?

2013-07-22 Thread Darac Marjal
On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 08:24:45PM +, Albretch Mueller wrote:
  Thank you,
  lbrtchx

If you have two mice, and need independent positions reporting for them,
try MPX: http://wearables.unisa.edu.au/projects/mpx/

There's something of a howto here:
http://ao2.it/en/blog/2010/01/19/poor-mans-multi-touch-using-multiple-mice-xorg

Enjoy.



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Re: any way to get the mouse position on two places on the screen?

2013-07-22 Thread Albretch Mueller
 I think I should have worded the question as:
~
 any way to get the mouse position on the screen (so that then you
would then take a second one in order to calculate the rectangular
viewing area on a screen (showing a video))?
~
 lbrtchx


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Re: any way to get the mouse position on two places on the screen?

2013-07-21 Thread William Hopkins
On 07/20/13 at 09:55pm, Albretch Mueller wrote:
  Anyway I was trying to be the possibly least verbose I could. 

Whoever told you this was a good idea was lying. Be more verbose. 


 Since I need to do some screen capture based on ffmpeg I need to know the
 pixel coordinates of the a rectangle on my screen and the easiest way I could
 think of getting that info is by positioning the the mouse at those two
 different places, in which case I would be physically constrained of doing it
 at the same time, no?

Probably not, now that you've listed the actual issue. I don't know why you
need to know both at once.. get one, then get the other? Or does the rectangle
move?

Can you be more verbose?

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Re: any way to get the mouse position on two places on the screen?

2013-07-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-07-20 at 20:24 +, Albretch Mueller wrote:
  Thank you,
  lbrtchx

One mouse cursor at two different positions at the same time?
What is it good for?



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Re: any way to get the mouse position on two places on the screen?

2013-07-20 Thread François TOURDE
Le 15906ième jour après Epoch,
Ralf Mardorf écrivait:

 On Sat, 2013-07-20 at 20:24 +, Albretch Mueller wrote:
  Thank you,
  lbrtchx

 One mouse cursor at two different positions at the same time?
 What is it good for?

Schizophrenic people?

Or maybe cut/paste speedup?

I remember an old software on some Oric/Atmos/other small computer on
which you were able to drop a part of the mouse pointer to put a
graphic operation on standby mode, that allow you to use the rest of
the mouse to select another tool.

If I remember correctly, you were able to suspend a path selection
using the shift-crtl key, to change the kind of operation, and
shift-ctrl again allow you to continue drawing the selection path.

Totally amazing !!!


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Re: any way to get the mouse position on two places on the screen?

2013-07-20 Thread Albretch Mueller
 One mouse cursor at two different positions at the same time?
 What is it good for?

 Schizophrenic people?
~
 Is it not the very definition of schizophrenia to see and hear things
other people haven't actually stated?
~
 Anyway I was trying to be the possibly least verbose I could. Since I
need to do some screen capture based on ffmpeg I need to know the
pixel coordinates of the a rectangle on my screen and the easiest way
I could think of getting that info is by positioning the the mouse at
those two different places, in which case I would be physically
constrained of doing it at the same time, no?
~
 lbrtchx


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Re: any way to get the mouse position on two places on the screen?

2013-07-20 Thread Cousin Stanley
Albretch Mueller wrote:

 I need to know the pixel coordinates of the a rectangle 
 on my screen and the easiest way  I could think of 
 getting that info is by positioning the the mouse 
 at those two different places, in which case 
 I would be physically constrained of doing it 
 at the same time, no ?

  No, for example  

o Ksnapshot for capturing a screen shot

o ImageMagic's crop function

  use a  left-click|-hold-drag-|release  technique
  for outling rectangles  


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