Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X
Eric Rodriguez err...@gmail.com writes: running udevadm trigger as root made keyboard/touchpad responsive for me. until there's a fix, I just added that to the end of /etc/init.d/gdm Now, there is some progress. Thanks for the info. ;-D -- Mahesh T. Pai || From The Devil's Dictionary (1881-1906) [devil]: LAWYER, n. One skilled in circumvention of the law. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87aa1snzm3.fsf@nandini.nandini
Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X
On Mon, 2012-04-30 at 16:48 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 04:27:08PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: FWIW Not working: Trekker Wheel Mouse 2.0A PS/2 Compatible What testing have you done? A long time ago I tried different things. People from the Debian community helped me to try very exotic things. i.e. Does it work in another computer? Does another type of PS/2 mouse work in the problem computer? Dunno. Does gpm work in console mode: a) With problem mouse? b) With good mouse? Dunno. I learned to use another mouse ;) and worked on tuning my Linuxes to cause zero jitter for external MIDI. This is possible and I don't know any modern OS excepted of Linux, where this is possible. Beside Linux only old computers like the C64 and the Atari ST are able to provide this, but those computers aren't multi task computers, so for the C64 for example, you can SEI ;IRQ off or do simple checks like LDA HARDWARE_REGISTER LSR ... RTS to get data directly from the interface. You can't do this kind of hard real-time on modern computers. Anyway, JACK2 has a nice option to enable hard MIDI real-time, since some wizard(s) did a very good job. I don't waste time with the mouse, I need the time to set up much more important things. IMO Linux is the best choice for my needs, but it cause a lot of problems regarding to basics like the graphics and other hardware, e.g. a simple old faithful mouse. - Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1335784670.2266.20.camel@precise
Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X
Do you have /dev/input/mice and /dev/input/event* files? If so, does the 'mice' file change when you manipulate the mouse (as root, hd /dev/input/mice and see whether mouse movement causes output), and does one or more of the input files change when you press keys (hd /dev/input/event1 ; test, then try 2, etc…) If no to either question, then the issue is at some layer underneath X, the input event subsystem. If yes, then there is an X configuration issue. -- Jon Dowland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120430132216.GB7795@debian
Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X
On Monday 30 April 2012 12:17:50 Ralf Mardorf wrote: I don't waste time with the mouse, I need the time to set up much more important things. IMO Linux is the best choice for my needs, but it cause a lot of problems regarding to basics like the graphics and other hardware, e.g. a simple old faithful mouse. - Ralf You seem to be continuing to discount completely the possibility that the mouse is faulty. This is especially likely if it is old. You really have no evidence at all, so far as I can see, for the FUD about Debian that you were disseminating. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201204301424.06042.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X
On Mon, 2012-04-30 at 14:24 +0100, Lisi wrote: On Monday 30 April 2012 12:17:50 Ralf Mardorf wrote: I don't waste time with the mouse, I need the time to set up much more important things. IMO Linux is the best choice for my needs, but it cause a lot of problems regarding to basics like the graphics and other hardware, e.g. a simple old faithful mouse. - Ralf You seem to be continuing to discount completely the possibility that the mouse is faulty. This is especially likely if it is old. You really have no evidence at all, so far as I can see, for the FUD about Debian that you were disseminating. Lisi The mouse does work with old Debian and other Linuxes. Please let us stop talking about my mouse. I guess the OP will get his mouse working. Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1335810287.3529.22.camel@precise
Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X
On Mon 30 Apr 2012 at 20:24:47 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: The mouse does work with old Debian and other Linuxes. Please let us stop talking about my mouse. I guess the OP will get his mouse working. Isn't conversation about your mouse better being in the open. We'll only talk about it behind your back otherwise. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120430190124.GQ3883@desktop
Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X
running udevadm trigger as root made keyboard/touchpad responsive for me. until there's a fix, I just added that to the end of /etc/init.d/gdm
Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X
On Sun, 2012-04-29 at 16:53 +0530, paiva...@gmail.com wrote: Or is my MoBo giving up? No, Debian dropped working PS/2 equipment for versions ex stable a long time ago. In my case only the mouse doesn't work anymore, the keyboard still does work. I've got an outdated Suse, some outdated Ubuntu, AVLinux aka Debian stable, current Ubuntu and current Arch installed. If there would be another OS, I would drop Linux, since things become more and more idiotic. Nobody cares about bugs, for serious computer usage. For the future expect much more serious issues, but that PS/2 issue. Regards, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1335700778.19549.10.camel@precise
Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X
On Sun, 2012-04-29 at 13:59 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sun, 2012-04-29 at 16:53 +0530, paiva...@gmail.com wrote: Or is my MoBo giving up? No, Debian dropped working PS/2 equipment for versions ex stable a long TYPO: ^^ after stable time ago. In my case only the mouse doesn't work anymore, the keyboard still does work. I've got an outdated Suse, some outdated Ubuntu, AVLinux aka Debian stable, current Ubuntu and current Arch installed. If there would be another OS, I would drop Linux, since things become more and more idiotic. Nobody cares about bugs, for serious computer usage. For the future expect much more serious issues, but that PS/2 issue. Regards, Ralf PS: I had Debian after stable installed too. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1335700914.19549.12.camel@precise
Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X
On 2012-04-29 13:59 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sun, 2012-04-29 at 16:53 +0530, paiva...@gmail.com wrote: Or is my MoBo giving up? No, Debian dropped working PS/2 equipment for versions ex stable a long time ago. Unfortunately I did not know this, and my PS/2 keyboard and mouse continue to work as they did in the past 14 years. If there would be another OS, I would drop Linux, since things become more and more idiotic. There are plenty other operating systems besides Linux. Nobody cares about bugs, for serious computer usage. Surely that perception is the reason why you are trolling on this list rather than reporting a bug? Cheers, Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87mx5ubt29@turtle.gmx.de
Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X
Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net writes: On Sun, 2012-04-29 at 16:53 +0530, paiva...@gmail.com wrote: Or is my MoBo giving up? No, Debian dropped working PS/2 equipment for versions ex stable a long time ago. In my case only the mouse doesn't work anymore, the keyboard That is a nasty thing to do. Here, the dbloodsuckers/d hardware vendors still palm off PS/2 input devices. PCs as recent as 1 year came with PS/2 equipmen. Your reply has me so confused that I looked up wikipedia to ensure that when I said PS/2 I reall meant what I intended. Yes, I did say what I had in mind. So, the real bug is with the decision to drop support for PS/2, which, IMHO, is required at least for another 3 to 4 years. What has me confused is, why is the PS/2 keyboard still working on the console mode then? And which xorg component supports PS/2 input? I did go back to the xserver-xorg-input-evdev, x-x-i-kbd and x-x-i-mouse packages from stable, but things did not work. (with PS/2 on X, that is). This USB keyboard is right-royal PITA, dunno whether the issue is with this specific brand or with the USB interface, but there is too much lag between keystrokes and characters appearing on the screen. I type real fast - 40+ wpm on qwerty layout. If there would be another OS, I would drop Linux, since things become more and more idiotic. Nobody cares about bugs, for serious computer usage. For the future expect much more serious issues, but that PS/2 issue. Having to use non-Linux OSes at office confirms my suspicion that GNU/Linux based distros are waay more user friendly. -- Mahesh T. Pai || From The Devil's Dictionary (1881-1906) [devil]: LAWYER, n. One skilled in circumvention of the law. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/8762ci7l12.fsf@nandini.nandini
Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 01:59:38PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sun, 2012-04-29 at 16:53 +0530, paiva...@gmail.com wrote: Or is my MoBo giving up? tl;dr No, Debian dropped working PS/2 equipment for versions ex stable a long time ago. In my case only the mouse doesn't work anymore, the keyboard still does work. Bollocks! My mouse and keyboard work fine. Stop spreading FUD! -- Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet. -- Napoleon Bonaparte -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120429140821.GA5350@tal
Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X
Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz writes: Bollocks! My mouse and keyboard work fine. Stop spreading FUD! Thanks to guys who confirmed that support for PS/2 is not dropped. So, my question - which package is likely to cause the problem? -- Mahesh T. Pai || -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/878vhehb2d.fsf@nandini.nandini
Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X
On Sun, 2012-04-29 at 14:50 +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2012-04-29 13:59 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sun, 2012-04-29 at 16:53 +0530, paiva...@gmail.com wrote: Or is my MoBo giving up? No, Debian dropped working PS/2 equipment for versions ex stable a long time ago. Unfortunately I did not know this, and my PS/2 keyboard and mouse continue to work as they did in the past 14 years. Some hardware still does work, as I said, my keyboard still is ok. If there would be another OS, I would drop Linux, since things become more and more idiotic. There are plenty other operating systems besides Linux. No, there are not plenty OS that enable professional real-time usage for audio. Nobody cares about bugs, for serious computer usage. Surely that perception is the reason why you are trolling on this list rather than reporting a bug? A lot of people report bugs, such as all the PA and nouveau issues, but e.g. PA blames ALSA, downstream blames upstream etc. pp.. Regards, Ralf PS: Instead of calling me a troll, simply help the OP you troll. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1335708498.2213.18.camel@precise
Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X
On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 13:59:38 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sun, 2012-04-29 at 16:53 +0530, paiva...@gmail.com wrote: Or is my MoBo giving up? No, Debian dropped working PS/2 equipment for versions ex stable a long time ago. In my case only the mouse doesn't work anymore, the keyboard still does work. I must be doing some kind of mystic sorcery to make my PS/2 keyboard and my USB mouse (attached to an USB to PS/2 converter) working in my Lenny as well as Wheezy! If there would be another OS, I would drop Linux, since things become more and more idiotic. Nobody cares about bugs, for serious computer usage. Then better search for an OS replacement. If you like Linux, there are some paid distributions that will be more than happy to have you as a client because bugs (filling and solving) are *a must* here (here → community driven projects). Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jnjjci$5ol$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X
On Sunday 29 April 2012 15:08:18 Ralf Mardorf wrote: Some hardware still does work, as I said, my keyboard still is ok. So your PS/2 mouse is dead. Hardly unheard of. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201204291535.07908.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X
On Sunday 29 April 2012 15:08:18 Ralf Mardorf wrote: PS: Instead of calling me a troll, simply help the OP you troll. Where did Sven troll the OP? Perhaps you could post a copy of the relevant email, since I have received no trolling of anyone from Sven. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201204291538.36946.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X
On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 13:59:38 +0200 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Sun, 2012-04-29 at 16:53 +0530, paiva...@gmail.com wrote: Or is my MoBo giving up? No, Debian dropped working PS/2 equipment for versions ex stable a long time ago. In my case only the mouse doesn't work anymore, the keyboard still does work. I've got an outdated Suse, some outdated Ubuntu, AVLinux aka Debian stable, current Ubuntu and current Arch installed. If there would be another OS, I would drop Linux, since things become more and more idiotic. Nobody cares about bugs, for serious computer usage. For the future expect much more serious issues, but that PS/2 issue. Regards, Ralf I have no problems with my PS/2 keyboard on neither stable or testing - and if there is, one can always get one of these to extend the life of it: http://www.clickykeyboards.com/index.cfm/fa/items.main/parentcat/11298/subcatid/0/id/124184 /Andreas signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X
On 2012-04-29 16:22 +0200, paiva...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks to guys who confirmed that support for PS/2 is not dropped. So, my question - which package is likely to cause the problem? I don't really see anything suspicious in your list. Can you please send the output of reportbug --template xserver-xorg ? Preferably with the PS/2 keyboard and mouse attached. Cheers, Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87bomabnsg@turtle.gmx.de
Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X
On Sun, 2012-04-29 at 18:27 +0530, paiva...@gmail.com wrote: Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net writes: If there would be another OS, I would drop Linux, since things become more and more idiotic. Nobody cares about bugs, for serious computer usage. For the future expect much more serious issues, but that PS/2 issue. Having to use non-Linux OSes at office confirms my suspicion that GNU/Linux based distros are waay more user friendly. Agree! AFAIK there's no other OS capable of hard real-time for audio, this btw. is also an issue for Linux but possible. FWIW Not working: Trekker Wheel Mouse 2.0A PS/2 Compatible Working: Keyboard KWD-205 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1335709628.3383.5.camel@precise
Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X
On Mon, 2012-04-30 at 02:08 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 01:59:38PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sun, 2012-04-29 at 16:53 +0530, paiva...@gmail.com wrote: Or is my MoBo giving up? tl;dr No, Debian dropped working PS/2 equipment for versions ex stable a long time ago. In my case only the mouse doesn't work anymore, the keyboard still does work. Bollocks! My mouse and keyboard work fine. Stop spreading FUD! So please help the OP to get it working. It's working for some of you, so if it isn't working for others, they spread FUD? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1335719250.2243.8.camel@precise
Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X
On Sun, 2012-04-29 at 15:38 +0100, Lisi wrote: On Sunday 29 April 2012 15:08:18 Ralf Mardorf wrote: PS: Instead of calling me a troll, simply help the OP you troll. Where did Sven troll the OP? Perhaps you could post a copy of the relevant email, since I have received no trolling of anyone from Sven. Lisi He called me a troll ;). He didn't help the OP. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1335719452.2243.9.camel@precise
Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X
Sven Joachim svenj...@gmx.de writes: No, Debian dropped working PS/2 equipment for versions ex stable a long time ago. Unfortunately I did not know this, and my PS/2 keyboard and mouse continue to work as they did in the past 14 years. Hmm... at work I'm using the same PS/2 keyboard I've been using for the past 14 years... with an up-to-date (sid) version of Debian. Seems to work well. -miles -- Success, n. The one unpardonable sin against one's fellows. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87ty02gdhc@catnip.gol.com
Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 07:07:30PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: So please help the OP to get it working. It's working for some of you, so if it isn't working for others, they spread FUD? It is, when you say debian have dropped support for PS/2 keyboards and mice. -- Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet. -- Napoleon Bonaparte -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120430042204.GA1947@tal
Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 04:27:08PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: FWIW Not working: Trekker Wheel Mouse 2.0A PS/2 Compatible What testing have you done? i.e. Does it work in another computer? Does another type of PS/2 mouse work in the problem computer? Does gpm work in console mode: a) With problem mouse? b) With good mouse? Once you have some idea where the problem is, then you can start fine tuning your fault finding. By using techniques like those, more often than not, you can solve the problem yourself. -- Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet. -- Napoleon Bonaparte -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120430044846.GC1947@tal
Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse
On Mi, 08 iun 11, 10:06:36, Lisi wrote: I did say YMMV As I say, I personally find the traction inadequate with optical mice. I can easily deduce that most people like them! Maybe it's just because of more dust here, but I have to clean the sliders all the time on my mice. OTOH I don't like it if they don't slide easily, but I don't use pads anywhere, just the desktop surface. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse
On Wed, 2011-06-08 at 21:45 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 19:05:30 -0400 (EDT), Ralf Mardorf wrote: ... Does Debian drop valid hardware, that isn't brand new? I use a PS/2 mouse with Debian, but it does not have a wheel; so I can't address your specific situation. But as to your more general question about hardware support, I doubt that Debian in particular or Linux in general intentionally dropped support for PS/2 mice with wheels. It's more likely a bug. The problem is usually that the people who write or maintain the code don't have the necessary hardware to test it themselves. Pity! Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307612656.3190.54.camel@debian
Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse
On 09/06/11 19:44, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Wed, 2011-06-08 at 21:45 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 19:05:30 -0400 (EDT), Ralf Mardorf wrote: ... Does Debian drop valid hardware, that isn't brand new? I use a PS/2 mouse with Debian, but it does not have a wheel; so I can't address your specific situation. But as to your more general question about hardware support, I doubt that Debian in particular or Linux in general intentionally dropped support for PS/2 mice with wheels. It's more likely a bug. The problem is usually that the people who write or maintain the code don't have the necessary hardware to test it themselves. Would that be HAL, Xorg, or ? developers? 'cause if it's lack of appropriate hardware that's causing the problem - PS/2 mice is just the kind of hardware I'd be happy to donate! :-) snipped PS/2 wheel mice are the only mice I use and all currently releases of Debian for the i386 support them by default. With amd64 I have tried with Squeeze. The only laptops I've installed to are running Squeeze. That's as a three-button mouse with a scrolling wheel. The only problems I've seen with PS/2 mice and Linux in recent years have come from:- ;using mice that require drivers in Windoof (for basic functionality) - there's a Korean or Chinese mouse I've come across a couple of times (CMPsomething?) - throw in bin to fix ;(most common lately, espec. Dell) laptops with touchpads - disable touchpad ;laptops with a mouse hanging off a Y connector - don't use Y connector ;devices with touch screens - I have no idea how to fix ;BIOS has PlugNPray turned off or problematic IRQ settings - turn on PNP I've put the appropriate xorg.conf section in another post - it might be worth a try, though I'd be more interested in seeing the halinfo and dmesg first... eg:- dmesg | grep -i ps/2 [0.679471] PNP: PS/2 Controller [PNP0303:PS2K,PNP0f03:PS2M] at 0x60,0x64 irq 1,12 [0.682717] mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice [4.381405] input: ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse as /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input4 lshal | grep -i ps/2 info.product = 'Microsoft PS/2-style Mouse' (string) pnp.description = 'Microsoft PS/2-style Mouse' (string) info.product = 'IBM Enhanced (101/102-key, PS/2 mouse support)' (string) pnp.description = 'IBM Enhanced (101/102-key, PS/2 mouse support)' (string) info.product = 'ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse' (string) input.product = 'ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse' (string) Cheers -- Tuttle? His name's Buttle. There must be some mistake. Mistake? [Chuckles] We don't make mistakes. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4df0a659.3080...@gmail.com
Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse
On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 20:54 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 09/06/11 19:44, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Wed, 2011-06-08 at 21:45 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 19:05:30 -0400 (EDT), Ralf Mardorf wrote: ... Does Debian drop valid hardware, that isn't brand new? I use a PS/2 mouse with Debian, but it does not have a wheel; so I can't address your specific situation. But as to your more general question about hardware support, I doubt that Debian in particular or Linux in general intentionally dropped support for PS/2 mice with wheels. It's more likely a bug. The problem is usually that the people who write or maintain the code don't have the necessary hardware to test it themselves. Would that be HAL, Xorg, or ? developers? 'cause if it's lack of appropriate hardware that's causing the problem - PS/2 mice is just the kind of hardware I'd be happy to donate! :-) Most people seems to have no issues with PS/2 mice, just my Trekker seems to have an issue. snipped PS/2 wheel mice are the only mice I use and all currently releases of Debian for the i386 support them by default. With amd64 I have tried with Squeeze. The only laptops I've installed to are running Squeeze. That's as a three-button mouse with a scrolling wheel. The only problems I've seen with PS/2 mice and Linux in recent years have come from:- ;using mice that require drivers in Windoof (for basic functionality) - there's a Korean or Chinese mouse I've come across a couple of times (CMPsomething?) - throw in bin to fix ;(most common lately, espec. Dell) laptops with touchpads - disable touchpad ;laptops with a mouse hanging off a Y connector - don't use Y connector ;devices with touch screens - I have no idea how to fix ;BIOS has PlugNPray turned off or problematic IRQ settings - turn on PNP I've put the appropriate xorg.conf section in another post - it might be worth a try, though I'd be more interested in seeing the halinfo and dmesg first... eg:- dmesg | grep -i ps/2 [0.679471] PNP: PS/2 Controller [PNP0303:PS2K,PNP0f03:PS2M] at 0x60,0x64 irq 1,12 [0.682717] mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice [4.381405] input: ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse as /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input4 lshal | grep -i ps/2 info.product = 'Microsoft PS/2-style Mouse' (string) pnp.description = 'Microsoft PS/2-style Mouse' (string) info.product = 'IBM Enhanced (101/102-key, PS/2 mouse support)' (string) pnp.description = 'IBM Enhanced (101/102-key, PS/2 mouse support)' (string) info.product = 'ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse' (string) input.product = 'ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse' (string) Cheers -- Tuttle? His name's Buttle. There must be some mistake. Mistake? [Chuckles] We don't make mistakes. At the moment I need to test my new RME audio card, hence solving the mouse issue is delayed. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307618984.3190.97.camel@debian
Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse
Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net writes: Hi :) when using a PS/2 mouse with stable or testing the mouse wheel very seldom does work, usually it doesn't. For Ubuntu Maverick and Natty it's the same. It might help to specify which protocol the mouse uses in your xorg.conf. IIRC, there´s some program to check out your mouse; unfortunately, I forgot how it´s called. Perhaps you can find out what protocol is used by looking at the X11 logfile. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87vcwe99fp@yun.yagibdah.de
Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse
On Wednesday 08 June 2011 00:37:05 Ron Johnson wrote: You *like* ball mice? Yes - I find the extra traction far better. I have difficulty controlling a laser mouse because there is virtually no traction. I am slightly handicapped, so YMMV. Four little rubber feet on the bottom of the mouse give adequate friction against the mouse pad. IMO, of course. I did say YMMV As I say, I personally find the traction inadequate with optical mice. I can easily deduce that most people like them! Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201106081006.36664.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse
On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 19:05:30 -0400 (EDT), Ralf Mardorf wrote: ... Does Debian drop valid hardware, that isn't brand new? I use a PS/2 mouse with Debian, but it does not have a wheel; so I can't address your specific situation. But as to your more general question about hardware support, I doubt that Debian in particular or Linux in general intentionally dropped support for PS/2 mice with wheels. It's more likely a bug. The problem is usually that the people who write or maintain the code don't have the necessary hardware to test it themselves. As an example, the fairly recent (relative to how long we've had an X server) switch to Kernel Mode Setting seems to have broken support for interlaced video modes. It couldn't possibly have been tested. But testing an interlaced video mode requires a video card / monitor combination that supports it. Most flat-screen monitors don't support interlaced video modes. You just about have to have a CRT monitor to use interlaced video modes. Apparently the developers don't have one. Code to support interlaced video modes is there. But it doesn't work. Anyone who even attempted to test it would have found that out. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/552547774.68755.1307583947919.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse
On 06/06/2011 06:05 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Hi :) when using a PS/2 mouse with stable or testing the mouse wheel very seldom does work, usually it doesn't. For Ubuntu Maverick and Natty it's the same. Did you choose 3-button emulation? -- Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt. Samuel Adams, essay in The Public Advertiser, 1749 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4dee25e5.3090...@cox.net
Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse
On 06/06/2011 09:48 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: [snip] How should I break mouse wheel support, when I break ALSA? I try to get Not at the same time, but with *different* fiddling. -- Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt. Samuel Adams, essay in The Public Advertiser, 1749 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4dee2620.9090...@cox.net
Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse
On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 01:05:30 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: (...) I guess Debian and Ubuntu only have issues with PS/2 mice. I can't speak for Ubuntu, but I'm using a PS/2 mouse with Debian and works very well. I wonder what can cause a simple PS/2 mouse to malfunction. Anything at Xorg's log? Is there a way to fix this? I tried to get a USB mouse that really could replace my PS/2 mouse, but all modern mice seems to be made to get typist's cramps. So I'll get rid of my new USB mouse if possible and use my old PS/2 mouth again. Buy a PS/2 to USB adapter? :-) There are some dual-port models to connect your PS/2 mouse and keyboard by using just one USB port. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.06.07.13.23...@gmail.com
Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse
On Tue, 2011-06-07 at 13:23 +, Camaleón wrote: On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 01:05:30 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: (...) I guess Debian and Ubuntu only have issues with PS/2 mice. I can't speak for Ubuntu, but I'm using a PS/2 mouse with Debian and works very well. I wonder what can cause a simple PS/2 mouse to malfunction. Anything at Xorg's log? Is there a way to fix this? I tried to get a USB mouse that really could replace my PS/2 mouse, but all modern mice seems to be made to get typist's cramps. So I'll get rid of my new USB mouse if possible and use my old PS/2 mouth again. Buy a PS/2 to USB adapter? :-) There are some dual-port models to connect your PS/2 mouse and keyboard by using just one USB port. Seems to be the most comfortable solution, fortunately no USB is sharing IRQ with my pro audio sound devices ;). So for me it could be an advantage, by getting rid of a PS/2 IRQ, it's said, that it should be possible by the BIOS. The IRQ doesn't cause issues, but anyway, the less, the better. Some people's professional audio devices share IRQs with USB and AFAIK that's the more worse, the more USB is used. Cheers! Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307456074.2408.63.camel@debian
Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse
On Tuesday 07 June 2011 14:23:19 Camaleón wrote: I'm using a PS/2 mouse with Debian and works very well. +1 Moreover, it has a ball not a light. I dread the day it dies!! Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201106071837.59642.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse
On 06/07/2011 12:37 PM, Lisi wrote: On Tuesday 07 June 2011 14:23:19 Camaleón wrote: I'm using a PS/2 mouse with Debian and works very well. +1 Moreover, it has a ball not a light. I dread the day it dies!! You *like* ball mice? -- Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt. Samuel Adams, essay in The Public Advertiser, 1749 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4dee62bf.7070...@cox.net
Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse
On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 12:41:19 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/07/2011 12:37 PM, Lisi wrote: On Tuesday 07 June 2011 14:23:19 Camaleón wrote: I'm using a PS/2 mouse with Debian and works very well. +1 Moreover, it has a ball not a light. I dread the day it dies!! You *like* ball mice? Mine also have such dinosaurian piece of hardware ball... and I'll say more, it's manufactured from Microsoft (IntelliMouse 1.3A) O:-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.06.07.17.52...@gmail.com
Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse
On 07/06/11 01:52 PM, Camaleón wrote: On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 12:41:19 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/07/2011 12:37 PM, Lisi wrote: On Tuesday 07 June 2011 14:23:19 Camaleón wrote: I'm using a PS/2 mouse with Debian and works very well. +1 Moreover, it has a ball not a light. I dread the day it dies!! You *like* ball mice? Mine also have such dinosaurian piece of hardware ball... and I'll say more, it's manufactured from Microsoft (IntelliMouse 1.3A) O:-) Greetings, Off topic but I picked up a Logitech M515 last weekend to give it a whirl. USB wireless* mouse with sealed bottom and moves cursor if you hold it properly. I do have a roller ball Logitech mouse on another machine. It wouldn't take a second if had to change it with an optical or more recently a laser mouse. KS. * no serious sluggishness due to wireless -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4dee6b01.5040...@fastmail.fm
Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse
On Tue, 2011-06-07 at 17:52 +, Camaleón wrote: On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 12:41:19 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/07/2011 12:37 PM, Lisi wrote: On Tuesday 07 June 2011 14:23:19 Camaleón wrote: I'm using a PS/2 mouse with Debian and works very well. +1 Moreover, it has a ball not a light. I dread the day it dies!! You *like* ball mice? Mine also have such dinosaurian piece of hardware ball... and I'll say more, it's manufactured from Microsoft (IntelliMouse 1.3A) O:-) My PS/2 mouse has a ball too :) and I'm a dino myself. The ball is the only thing I'm not missing for the new USB mouse, anything else is bad for this elCheapo USB mouse, but at least at the supermarket the cheapest mouse, was the most ergonomically. I did open each packaging, excepted of blisters, to test the mice, regarding to ergonomic. Unfortunately without information about DPI and special effects. It's still not really ergonomically and I don't wish to have a 'pocket lamp mouse wheel' or loud button-click-noise. OTOH, the new mouse's buttons have a better debouncing. OT: I'm happy that still simple passive video cards are available. I guess the major issue with computers is, that most people don't use the computer as a tool, but as a toy. The more folderol a toy has, the better, but for a tool folderol IMO is annoying. -- Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307471581.2177.100.camel@debian
Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse
On Tue, 2011-06-07 at 14:16 -0400, KS wrote: On 07/06/11 01:52 PM, Camaleón wrote: On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 12:41:19 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/07/2011 12:37 PM, Lisi wrote: On Tuesday 07 June 2011 14:23:19 Camaleón wrote: I'm using a PS/2 mouse with Debian and works very well. +1 Moreover, it has a ball not a light. I dread the day it dies!! You *like* ball mice? Mine also have such dinosaurian piece of hardware ball... and I'll say more, it's manufactured from Microsoft (IntelliMouse 1.3A) O:-) Greetings, Off topic but I picked up a Logitech M515 last weekend to give it a whirl. USB wireless* mouse with sealed bottom and moves cursor if you hold it properly. I do have a roller ball Logitech mouse on another machine. It wouldn't take a second if had to change it with an optical or more recently a laser mouse. KS. * no serious sluggishness due to wireless I guess wireless won't cause troubles for AF signals, but anyway I will avoid wireless, because I won't do bodybuilding and I won't a battery dieing, while I'm doing an audio production. Cable usually never gets broken here. I only had to solder mouse-cables, when I got old, secondhand mice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307472250.2177.106.camel@debian
Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse
On Tuesday 07 June 2011 18:41:19 Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/07/2011 12:37 PM, Lisi wrote: On Tuesday 07 June 2011 14:23:19 Camaleón wrote: I'm using a PS/2 mouse with Debian and works very well. +1 Moreover, it has a ball not a light. I dread the day it dies!! You *like* ball mice? Yes - I find the extra traction far better. I have difficulty controlling a laser mouse because there is virtually no traction. I am slightly handicapped, so YMMV. And I have never actually *needed* to clean it, I just do it, rarely, to show willing. I clean the top of the mouse more often, as soon as it gets in any way marked or dirty - and that too is still pretty rarely. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110608.22423.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse
On 06/07/2011 06:00 PM, Lisi wrote: On Tuesday 07 June 2011 18:41:19 Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/07/2011 12:37 PM, Lisi wrote: On Tuesday 07 June 2011 14:23:19 Camaleón wrote: I'm using a PS/2 mouse with Debian and works very well. +1 Moreover, it has a ball not a light. I dread the day it dies!! You *like* ball mice? Yes - I find the extra traction far better. I have difficulty controlling a laser mouse because there is virtually no traction. I am slightly handicapped, so YMMV. Four little rubber feet on the bottom of the mouse give adequate friction against the mouse pad. IMO, of course. And I have never actually *needed* to clean it, I just do it, rarely, to show willing. Ah. I had to clean mine quite often. I clean the top of the mouse more often, as soon as it gets in any way marked or dirty - and that too is still pretty rarely. Black is a very useful color... -- Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt. Samuel Adams, essay in The Public Advertiser, 1749 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4deeb621.6020...@cox.net
Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse
YES! I keep a supply of recycled PS2 mice on hand. I make my mouse ergonomic with strategically placed adhesive-backed, dense caulk strips. Those fancy ergonomic monstrosities drive me nuts! Ditto laser mice. --- On Tue, 6/7/11, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: From: Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net Subject: Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 12:41 PM On 06/07/2011 12:37 PM, Lisi wrote: On Tuesday 07 June 2011 14:23:19 Camaleón wrote: I'm using a PS/2 mouse with Debian and works very well. +1 Moreover, it has a ball not a light. I dread the day it dies!! You *like* ball mice? -- Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt. Samuel Adams, essay in The Public Advertiser, 1749 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4dee62bf.7070...@cox.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/547165.96454...@web59509.mail.ac4.yahoo.com
Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse
On 08/06/11 03:37, Lisi wrote: On Tuesday 07 June 2011 14:23:19 Camaleón wrote: I'm using a PS/2 mouse with Debian and works very well. +1 Moreover, it has a ball not a light. I dread the day it dies!! Lisi +1 Ball mice never die! (they just lose their balls, seriously) Cottonwool bud and a screwdriver is all you need ;-p I only use PS/2 mice (preferably Optical) *and* keyboards with Debian. Saves power for the USB devices, makes use of the existing PS/2 ports, co-operates with BIOS, PXE boot, and KVMs. It's often difficult to purchase PS/2 input devices as they retail for the same price as the USB devices, but wholesale at more. I generally find retailers who stock PS/2 mice and keyboards also stock other quality components and have better prices too. Genius make a nice PS/2 Optical Wheel Mouse (XScroll), and Logitech make a nice PS/2 keyboard (K100). There are other models and brands - but those are cheap, reliable, and relatively easy to source. Cheers Tuttle? His name's Buttle. There must be some mistake. Mistake? [Chuckles] We don't make mistakes. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4deece96.8010...@gmail.com
Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse
On 07/06/11 02:44 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: I guess wireless won't cause troubles for AF signals, but anyway I will avoid wireless, because I won't do bodybuilding and I won't a battery dieing, while I'm doing an audio production. Cable usually never gets broken here. I only had to solder mouse-cables, when I got old, secondhand mice. I wasn't a fan of wireless mice either since I picked up a M510 last year. I'm still using the original batteries that it came with for a little more than an year. I use it every day and have not bothered to use the On/Off switch at the bottom to increase the battery life. As far as radio interference is concerened: I have a 2.4 GHz telephone, 802.11g network(several because of neighbours), wireless Microsoft mouse (yes, it sucks!) and a huge digital TV antenna. None of them cause any noticeable interference. Their weight is one reason I like them as the modern wired USB laser mouse are quite flimsy (if you are going for the $20 ones and not for gaming mice). The M510 and M515 give a good feeling of being a mouse (as heavy as a 15yr old Microsoft mouse with three buttons). Don't bother about soldering, ask on the list and I'm sure you will get a bunch of offer to send you wired mice with dirty balls ;) Toodloo KS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4deee00d.7080...@fastmail.fm
Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse
On 06/06/2011 06:05 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Hi :) when using a PS/2 mouse with stable or testing the mouse wheel very seldom does work, usually it doesn't. For Ubuntu Maverick and Natty it's the same. [snip] Since you didn't tell us what kind of PS/2 mouse, how in Eris' name are we supposed to help you? Cheesr! Bah!!! Ralf PS: While for Ubuntu Maverick the Internet is still very fast by my PPPoE connection, for Ubuntu Natty, Debian stable and testing it is in hardcore slow motion, sometimes I get timeouts. Older Ubuntu and Debian installs were ok for the Mouse and Internet. I only kept old Suse 11.2 and there still everything is ok (regarding to performance Suse always was less good than Debian, but now even Suse is better). Not to mention the issues with X and monitors. Does Debian drop valid hardware, that isn't brand new? Yes. Abso-fscking-lutely -- Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt. Samuel Adams, essay in The Public Advertiser, 1749 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ded602a.4050...@cox.net
Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse
On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 18:18 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/06/2011 06:05 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Since you didn't tell us what kind of PS/2 mouse, how in Eris' name are we supposed to help you? Trekker Wheel Mouse 2.0A -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307406800.13794.2.camel@debian
Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse
On 06/06/2011 07:33 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 18:18 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/06/2011 06:05 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Since you didn't tell us what kind of PS/2 mouse, how in Eris' name are we supposed to help you? Trekker Wheel Mouse 2.0A Is that a MS two-button mouse? -- Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt. Samuel Adams, essay in The Public Advertiser, 1749 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ded7c5e.4050...@cox.net
Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse
On 06/06/2011 07:05 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Hi :) when using a PS/2 mouse with stable or testing the mouse wheel very seldom does work, usually it doesn't. For Ubuntu Maverick and Natty it's the same. I replaced the mouse with an USB mouse and the mouse wheel seems to work all the time, tested with Debian testing only. I didn't reboot very often, just one or two times, but for the PS/2 mouse it never happened, that randomly the mouse wheel did work for two consecutive sessions. I guess Debian and Ubuntu only have issues with PS/2 mice. Is there a way to fix this? I tried to get a USB mouse that really could replace my PS/2 mouse, but all modern mice seems to be made to get typist's cramps. So I'll get rid of my new USB mouse if possible and use my old PS/2 mouth again. Cheesr! Ralf There are a whole slew of ps2 to usb adapters on the internet. Be careful that the one you get is for a mouse, not a keyboard. And in my experience, not all combinations of mouse/adapter/computer work, but with some futzing (maybe also try different usb ports?) you may be in luck. ymmv! --doug -- Blessed are the peacekeepers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A. M. Greeley -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ded8000.6010...@optonline.net
Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse
On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 20:18 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/06/2011 07:33 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 18:18 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/06/2011 06:05 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Since you didn't tell us what kind of PS/2 mouse, how in Eris' name are we supposed to help you? Trekker Wheel Mouse 2.0A Is that a MS two-button mouse? The Wheel can be used as button too. Microsoft? I dunno, at least there's no Microsoft logo or name written on the mouse. Knowingly I never owned anything from Microsoft, but the mouse is second-hand, perhaps it's a Microsoft mouse. It worked for 64 Studio/Debian Etch and Lenny. It's not broken, it still works with an old Suse install. -- Ralf PS: Until now completely no issues for the USB mouse. FWIW the mouse wheel for the PS/2 mouse already was broken for the clean Debian stable install. It isn't related to self-build kernels etc.. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307411579.2266.45.camel@debian
Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse
On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 21:33 -0400, Doug wrote: On 06/06/2011 07:05 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Hi :) when using a PS/2 mouse with stable or testing the mouse wheel very seldom does work, usually it doesn't. For Ubuntu Maverick and Natty it's the same. I replaced the mouse with an USB mouse and the mouse wheel seems to work all the time, tested with Debian testing only. I didn't reboot very often, just one or two times, but for the PS/2 mouse it never happened, that randomly the mouse wheel did work for two consecutive sessions. I guess Debian and Ubuntu only have issues with PS/2 mice. Is there a way to fix this? I tried to get a USB mouse that really could replace my PS/2 mouse, but all modern mice seems to be made to get typist's cramps. So I'll get rid of my new USB mouse if possible and use my old PS/2 mouth again. Cheesr! Ralf There are a whole slew of ps2 to usb adapters on the internet. Be careful that the one you get is for a mouse, not a keyboard. And in my experience, not all combinations of mouse/adapter/computer work, but with some futzing (maybe also try different usb ports?) you may be in luck. ymmv! --doug That's a good idea, thank you. Anyway a pity that something that worked for years, now is dropped. -- Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307411857.2266.48.camel@debian
Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse
On 06/06/2011 08:52 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 20:18 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/06/2011 07:33 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 18:18 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/06/2011 06:05 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Since you didn't tell us what kind of PS/2 mouse, how in Eris' name are we supposed to help you? Trekker Wheel Mouse 2.0A Is that a MS two-button mouse? The Wheel can be used as button too. Microsoft? I dunno, at least there's no Microsoft logo or name written on the mouse. Knowingly I never owned anything from Microsoft, but the mouse is second-hand, perhaps it's a Microsoft mouse. Don't knock it. They make *great* optical mice. It worked for 64 Studio/Debian Etch and Lenny. It's not broken, it still works with an old Suse install. Does /dev/psaux exist? Do you boot into [xkg]dm or the console? Is gpm installed? -- Ralf PS: Until now completely no issues for the USB mouse. FWIW the mouse wheel for the PS/2 mouse already was broken for the clean Debian stable install. It isn't related to self-build kernels etc.. There are enough people still using PS/2 mice that the Debian-install people wouldn't take out the PS/2 driver. Since you eviscerated ALSA, I wouldn't be surprised if you screwed up something regarding the mouse, too. -- Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt. Samuel Adams, essay in The Public Advertiser, 1749 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ded8b9c.5020...@cox.net
Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse
On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 21:23 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/06/2011 08:52 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 20:18 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/06/2011 07:33 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 18:18 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/06/2011 06:05 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Since you didn't tell us what kind of PS/2 mouse, how in Eris' name are we supposed to help you? Trekker Wheel Mouse 2.0A Is that a MS two-button mouse? The Wheel can be used as button too. Microsoft? I dunno, at least there's no Microsoft logo or name written on the mouse. Knowingly I never owned anything from Microsoft, but the mouse is second-hand, perhaps it's a Microsoft mouse. Don't knock it. They make *great* optical mice. It worked for 64 Studio/Debian Etch and Lenny. It's not broken, it still works with an old Suse install. Does /dev/psaux exist? Do you boot into [xkg]dm or the console? Is gpm installed? -- Ralf PS: Until now completely no issues for the USB mouse. FWIW the mouse wheel for the PS/2 mouse already was broken for the clean Debian stable install. It isn't related to self-build kernels etc.. There are enough people still using PS/2 mice that the Debian-install people wouldn't take out the PS/2 driver. Since you eviscerated ALSA, I wouldn't be surprised if you screwed up something regarding the mouse, too. I'll take a look at /dev/psaux etc. later. No, I didn't break my system. As mentioned before, for Debian stable, Debian testing, Ubuntu Maverick and Ubuntu Natty the mouse wheel doesn't work for the clean installs. How should I break mouse wheel support, when I break ALSA? I try to get rid of Debian's outdated version, because I need the current version. FWIW I'm making backups before I do such editing, anyway, even if I should have broken everything now, the mouse wheel never worked before. Thank you :) Ralf PS: I'll take a look at Microsoft mice too. But if possible I would prefer not to support Microsoft and Apple. -- Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt. Samuel Adams, essay in The Public Advertiser, 1749 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307414926.2266.87.camel@debian
Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse
On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 21:23 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/06/2011 08:52 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 20:18 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/06/2011 07:33 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 18:18 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/06/2011 06:05 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Since you didn't tell us what kind of PS/2 mouse, how in Eris' name are we supposed to help you? Trekker Wheel Mouse 2.0A Is that a MS two-button mouse? The Wheel can be used as button too. Microsoft? I dunno, at least there's no Microsoft logo or name written on the mouse. Knowingly I never owned anything from Microsoft, but the mouse is second-hand, perhaps it's a Microsoft mouse. Don't knock it. They make *great* optical mice. It worked for 64 Studio/Debian Etch and Lenny. It's not broken, it still works with an old Suse install. Does /dev/psaux exist? Do you boot into [xkg]dm or the console? Is gpm installed? Before I go to sleep. GDM I'm using a xorg.conf and tested it with and without mouse setings and the xorg-mouse'n'keyboard-packages installed, I also edited, i guess it was HAL?! ... I need to report later, I'm half asleep. root@debian:/home/spinymouse# ls /dev/p* /dev/parport0 /dev/port /dev/ppp /dev/psaux /dev/ptmx /dev/pts: 0 ptmx -- Ralf -- Ralf PS: Until now completely no issues for the USB mouse. FWIW the mouse wheel for the PS/2 mouse already was broken for the clean Debian stable install. It isn't related to self-build kernels etc.. There are enough people still using PS/2 mice that the Debian-install people wouldn't take out the PS/2 driver. Since you eviscerated ALSA, I wouldn't be surprised if you screwed up something regarding the mouse, too. -- Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt. Samuel Adams, essay in The Public Advertiser, 1749 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307415347.2266.91.camel@debian
Re: PS/2 - USB Adaptor for keyboard
* Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070302 01:42]: I'm trying to use a simple (cheap) PS/2 keyboard with a laptop which has no PS/2 ports. There are various PS/2 - USB available all over the internet; I bought a cheap one on Ebay. It is a very simple little thing, and I don't think it has any sort of electronics inside, and it doesn't seem to work. The keyboard is not recognized at all, neither in the console nor in X, it doesn't appear in the output of lsusb, and it isn't recognized by MS Windows either. Does anyone know anything about these things? Do they only work with certain types of keyboards? Do I need to configure anything in software? Should I suspect that mine is defective? Correct; there are no electronics in the PS2-USB adapter. A few years back, a PS2 adapter often was included with a USB mouse. It is likely that all you need to do is use the BIOS setup screen to enable the external keyboard and/or mouse. Once that is done, X and Window$ should see them. Also, any USB keyboard -- including keyboards for the Macintosh -- should work fine with your laptop. I am using a Macintost USB keyboard with my desktop PC; it appears to be of much higher mechanical quality than anything else I saw in the PC department of the computer store. RLH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PS/2 - USB Adaptor for keyboard
On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 02:14:43 -0600 Russell L. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070302 01:42]: I'm trying to use a simple (cheap) PS/2 keyboard with a laptop which has no PS/2 ports. There are various PS/2 - USB available all over the internet; I bought a cheap one on Ebay. It is a very simple little thing, and I don't think it has any sort of electronics inside, and it doesn't seem to work. The keyboard is not recognized at all, neither in the console nor in X, it doesn't appear in the output of lsusb, and it isn't recognized by MS Windows either. Does anyone know anything about these things? Do they only work with certain types of keyboards? Do I need to configure anything in software? Should I suspect that mine is defective? Correct; there are no electronics in the PS2-USB adapter. A few years back, a PS2 adapter often was included with a USB mouse. It is likely that all you need to do is use the BIOS setup screen to enable the external keyboard and/or mouse. Once that is done, X and Window$ should see them. Thanks. I did take a quick look into the BIOS and didn't see any such setting; I might have missed something. I'll take another look when I'm back at that machine. Also, any USB keyboard -- including keyboards for the Macintosh -- should work fine with your laptop. I am using a Macintost USB keyboard with my desktop PC; it appears to be of much higher mechanical quality than anything else I saw in the PC department of the computer store. RLH I could try that, but I have a specific PS/2 keyboard that I'd like to get working (it has foreign language characters printed on the keys in addition to the english ones, and similar USB models that I saw are more expensive). Thanks, Celejar -- ssuds.sourceforge.net - Home of Ssuds and Ssudg, a Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PS/2 - USB Adaptor for keyboard
[snap] isn't recognized by MS Windows either. Does anyone know anything about these things? Do they only work with certain types of keyboards? Do I need to configure anything in software? Should I suspect that mine is defective? Correct; there are no electronics in the PS2-USB adapter. A few years back, a PS2 adapter often was included with a USB mouse. Agreed, there are no electronics, however AFAIK USB and PS/2 are different protocols - so they cannot be just swapped by using an adapter. (PS/2 and AT could). There is a trick that USB mice's detects where-im-plugged-into and adjusts protocol/wiring. With PS/2-USB its worse, as PS/2 devices aren't generally made to adjust protocol and switch to USB. I could try that, but I have a specific PS/2 keyboard that I'd like to get working (it has foreign language characters printed on the keys in addition to the english ones, and similar USB models that I saw are Well, i guess you just need to buy the USB keyboard that fits for you.. There are sticky transparent characters available for lot of languages, and they can easilly be sticked to any keyboard (however i agree, characters that are printed on keyboard lasts almost infinitely) Regards, Atis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PS/2 - USB Adaptor for keyboard
On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 11:38:25 +0200 Atis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snap] isn't recognized by MS Windows either. Does anyone know anything about these things? Do they only work with certain types of keyboards? Do I need to configure anything in software? Should I suspect that mine is defective? Correct; there are no electronics in the PS2-USB adapter. A few years back, a PS2 adapter often was included with a USB mouse. Agreed, there are no electronics, however AFAIK USB and PS/2 are different protocols - so they cannot be just swapped by using an adapter. (PS/2 and AT could). There is a trick that USB mice's detects where-im-plugged-into and adjusts protocol/wiring. With PS/2-USB its worse, as PS/2 devices aren't generally made to adjust protocol and switch to USB. But these things are advertised as enabling one to do exactly what I want - to use a PS/2 keyboard on a system without a PS/2 port. I could try that, but I have a specific PS/2 keyboard that I'd like to get working (it has foreign language characters printed on the keys in addition to the english ones, and similar USB models that I saw are Well, i guess you just need to buy the USB keyboard that fits for you.. There are sticky transparent characters available for lot of languages, and they can easilly be sticked to any keyboard (however i agree, characters that are printed on keyboard lasts almost infinitely) I have used stickers, but after a while (they did last several years) they start to peel, and then they go missing and leave the keys gummed up to boot. Anyway, I'm discussing a laptop, so I want an external keyboard anyway. If I have to, I will buy a USB keyboard, but the ones I saw (with foreign language chars) are much more expensive then the cheap (Asian no-name) PS/2 ones available at Newegg. Thanks, Celejar -- ssuds.sourceforge.net - Home of Ssuds and Ssudg, a Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PS/2 - USB Adaptor for keyboard
Agreed, there are no electronics, however AFAIK USB and PS/2 are different protocols - so they cannot be just swapped by using an adapter. (PS/2 and AT could). There is a trick that USB mice's detects where-im-plugged-into and adjusts protocol/wiring. With PS/2-USB its worse, as PS/2 devices aren't generally made to adjust protocol and switch to USB. But these things are advertised as enabling one to do exactly what I want - to use a PS/2 keyboard on a system without a PS/2 port. Well, usually it's said under with little letters, that you need hardware that supports it. PS/2 have really simple interface - it has CLOCK and DATA pins, however USB is more advanced and don't have CLOCK, just two kinds of DATA, naturally CLOCK isn't in USB spec so no PC motherboard should support anything like that. (see links) Mhm, googling a bit showed that there are actually 2 types of those adapters. One that is just plain re-wiring of PS2 to USB, hoping that device will support USB, another seems to actually have electronics inside, and actually doing conversion of signals. I would say that it should work for you (although no guarantees ;) Links: http://pinouts.ru/Slots/USB_pinout.shtml http://pinouts.ru/Inputs/PS2Mouse_pinout.shtml http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=776087CatId=469 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1219599CatId=469 Regards, Atis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PS/2 - USB Adaptor for keyboard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Celejar wrote: I'm trying to use a simple (cheap) PS/2 keyboard with a laptop which has no PS/2 ports. There are various PS/2 - USB available all over the internet; I bought a cheap one on Ebay. It is a very simple little thing, and I don't think it has any sort of electronics inside, and it doesn't seem to work. The keyboard is not recognized at all, neither in the console nor in X, it doesn't appear in the output of lsusb, and it isn't recognized by MS Windows either. Does anyone know anything about these things? Do they only work with certain types of keyboards? Do I need to configure anything in software? Should I suspect that mine is defective? Celejar Greetings Celejar: I've used a converter from startech.com (part number USBPS2PC) with success. It has worked where other adapters have not. http://www.startech.com/Product/ItemDetail.aspx?productid=USBPS2PCc=US Good luck. - -Scott -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF6Dm7S7FYdPX6+iYRAsUHAKCBdA74bCYsuKzw8xMPudC2J7HLUwCfWz5J 1/gEh0FturF/WxJZ2yXG+O0= =f2SI -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PS/2 - USB Adaptor for keyboard
On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 16:47:05 +0200 Atis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed, there are no electronics, however AFAIK USB and PS/2 are different protocols - so they cannot be just swapped by using an adapter. (PS/2 and AT could). There is a trick that USB mice's detects where-im-plugged-into and adjusts protocol/wiring. With PS/2-USB its worse, as PS/2 devices aren't generally made to adjust protocol and switch to USB. But these things are advertised as enabling one to do exactly what I want - to use a PS/2 keyboard on a system without a PS/2 port. Well, usually it's said under with little letters, that you need hardware that supports it. PS/2 have really simple interface - it has CLOCK and DATA pins, however USB is more advanced and don't have CLOCK, just two kinds of DATA, naturally CLOCK isn't in USB spec so no PC motherboard should support anything like that. (see links) Mhm, googling a bit showed that there are actually 2 types of those adapters. One that is just plain re-wiring of PS2 to USB, hoping that device will support USB, another seems to actually have electronics inside, and actually doing conversion of signals. I would say that it should work for you (although no guarantees ;) Links: http://pinouts.ru/Slots/USB_pinout.shtml http://pinouts.ru/Inputs/PS2Mouse_pinout.shtml http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=776087CatId=469 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1219599CatId=469 Thanks very much for the info - I had googled but couldn't quite nail down that their are two types. I suppose that you get what you pay for, and that my cheap little thing just hopes that my keyboard supports USB and just needs a converter. Oh, well. Celejar -- ssuds.sourceforge.net - Home of Ssuds and Ssudg, a Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PS/2 - USB Adaptor for keyboard
On Fri, 02 Mar 2007 09:50:35 -0500 Scott Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Celejar wrote: I'm trying to use a simple (cheap) PS/2 keyboard with a laptop which has no PS/2 ports. There are various PS/2 - USB available all over the internet; I bought a cheap one on Ebay. It is a very simple little thing, and I don't think it has any sort of electronics inside, and it doesn't seem to work. The keyboard is not recognized at all, neither in the console nor in X, it doesn't appear in the output of lsusb, and it isn't recognized by MS Windows either. Does anyone know anything about these things? Do they only work with certain types of keyboards? Do I need to configure anything in software? Should I suspect that mine is defective? Celejar Greetings Celejar: I've used a converter from startech.com (part number USBPS2PC) with success. It has worked where other adapters have not. http://www.startech.com/Product/ItemDetail.aspx?productid=USBPS2PCc=US Good luck. Thanks, good to know. I'll look into it. Celejar -- ssuds.sourceforge.net - Home of Ssuds and Ssudg, a Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PS/2 - USB Adaptor for keyboard
Celejar wrote: I'm trying to use a simple (cheap) PS/2 keyboard with a laptop which has no PS/2 ports. There are various PS/2 - USB available all over the internet; I bought a cheap one on Ebay. Is it green or purple? There are two kinds, ones for keyboards and ones for mice. The green ones only work with mice that have a USB connector that can speak PS/2 if plugged in through the adapter and are readily available. The purple ones only work with keyboards and are usually slightly larger or a dongle and translates the two connections and protocols involved, and are nigh impossible to find. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PS/2 - USB Adaptor for keyboard
On Fri, 02 Mar 2007 10:26:31 -0800 Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Celejar wrote: I'm trying to use a simple (cheap) PS/2 keyboard with a laptop which has no PS/2 ports. There are various PS/2 - USB available all over the internet; I bought a cheap one on Ebay. Is it green or purple? There are two kinds, ones for keyboards and ones for mice. The green ones only work with mice that have a USB connector that can speak PS/2 if plugged in through the adapter and are readily available. The purple ones only work with keyboards and are usually slightly larger or a dongle and translates the two connections and protocols involved, and are nigh impossible to find. Green [0]. OTOH, he does claim that it'll work for a keyboard, OTOH, he does include (as one of the other respondents mentioned) the disclaimer that 'MUST REQUIRE: YOUR DEVICE MUST BE USB COMPATIBLE', so I suppose I ought to still give him positive feedback. Sigh. Celejar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PS/2 Maus(Hama 49127) unter Xorg(testing)
Gruesse! * Robert Vincenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am [16.10.06 18:05]: Hallo zusammen, Ich nutze zwar schon seit Jahren Debian aber immer nur Textbasiert (Router, Filerserver usw.). Nun wollte ich mir einen Desktop mit Debian einrichten. Installiert habe ich als erstes ein minimal Debian(also ohne Taskwahl bei der Installation). Anschliessend habe ich apt so eingestellt das es von Debian sowohl Stable als auch Testing nutz und dort jeweil main, contrib und non-free. Stable und Testing gemischt - da sind ja die Probleme vorprogrammiert! Was denkt ihr euch beim installieren denn so? Warum nicht auch noch unstable reinknallen, wegen der vielen aktuellem, coolen Warez. Und dann noch nicht mal in $Suchmaschine gpm xorg device eingeben können, bißchen lesen und evtl. mitkriegen daß das Mouse-Device wenn man gpm nutzt sowas wie /dev/gpmdata ist. (Wobei ich mir da nicht 100% sicher bin, auf jedenfall ein Devicename woraus gpm deutlich hervorgeht.) Robert Vincenz Gruß Gerhard -- A: Weil es die Lesbarkeit des Textes verschlechtert. Q: Warum ist TOFU so schlimm? A: TOFU F: Was ist das groesste Aergerniss im Usenet? -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: PS/2 Maus(Hama 49127) unter Xorg(testing)
Gerhard Brauer wrote: Gruesse! * Robert Vincenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am [16.10.06 18:05]: [Installationsbeschreibung] Stable und Testing gemischt - da sind ja die Probleme vorprogrammiert! Was denkt ihr euch beim installieren denn so? Warum nicht auch noch unstable reinknallen, wegen der vielen aktuellem, coolen Warez. Beruhige dich mal. Bei meinen anderen Installationen hat es funktioniert. Ausserdem wüste ich nicht das Debian neuerdings Warez anbietet. ;-) Und dann noch nicht mal in $Suchmaschine gpm xorg device eingeben können, bißchen lesen und evtl. mitkriegen daß das Mouse-Device wenn man gpm nutzt sowas wie /dev/gpmdata ist. Unter Debian ist /dev/mouse in symlink zu /dev/|gpmdata. Du kannst mir auch glauben, das ich eine Suchmaschien und die Dokumentation von X.org (http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/X11R7.0/doc/html/mouse.html) genutzt habe. Leider habe ich dort nichts gefunden was mir weiter helfen würde. In der Dokumentation steht z.B. das die Protokolle für PS/2 alle mit PS/2 enden, das ist aber bei Logitech nicht so. Und andere protokolle gehen werder mit noch ohne PS/2 am Ende. Robert Vincenz
Re: PS/2 Maus will unter Kernel 2.4.31 und X nicht so richtig!
Frank Rosendahl schrieb: Hallo Leute! Meine Kernelumstellung von 2.6.10 auf 2.4.31 auf meinem Toshiba Tecra 540CDT Schnarchtop schreitet weiter voran... Und das nächste Problem... Unter 2.6.10 und X funktioniert der Mausstick des Notebook ohne Probleme, auch auf der Console mit gpm. Unter 2.4.31 uns X weigert sich das Teil aber strickt, auch nur eine Bewegung auszuführen, aber es funktioniert auf der Console mit gpm. D.h. /dev/psaux funktioniert eigentlich. Woran könnte das liegen? In der XFConfig-4 hast du sicher als Device für die Maus folgendes stehen: /dev/input/mice Wenn du das in /dev/psaux umänderst, sollte es auch mit dem 2.4er gehen. Eventuell musst du das Modul psmouse laden (evtl. auch ohne Änderung der XFConfig-4 mal ausprobieren). Paul -- Linux-User #271918 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: PS/2-Maus bewegt sich unter Kernel 2.6 nicht
Simon Neumeister wrote: Matthias -- Don't panic Hallo Matthias, hatte das gleiche Problem: mit 2.4 lief alles wunder bar mir 2.6.x nix. Ab den 2.6er Kernel wurde anscheinend das PS/2-Interface verändert, bei mir hats dann ein Workaround getan: übergib dem Kernel beim boot (entweder fest in grub/lilo config oder manuell am prompt): `psmouse.proto=imps' (wahlweise statt imps auch ps/2). Natürlich musst du sicherstellen, dass psmouse mousedev als Module/ fest geladen sind. Beide, imps und ps/2 wirken. Ich hab dann ps/2 in meine lilo.conf geschrieben. Danke! -- Don't panic -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: PS/2-Maus bewegt sich unter Kernel 2.6 nicht
Thomas Kosch wrote: snipp Du benutzt einen Kernel der für Sarge nicht geeignet ist (für Sid/Etch übrigens auch nicht). Das Problem ist, das Module mousedev ist nicht geladen. Wenn du ansonsten das Standard Setup von Debian benutzt wird das eigentlich von hotplug erledigt. Ab dem 2.6.12 allerdings gibt es das Problem das hotplug plötzlich nicht mehr alle Module lädt. Du hast jetzt drei Möglichkeiten: 1. Du benutzt den offiziellen Sarge Kernel 2. Du benutzt einen Kernel 2.6.12 3. Du baust den Kernel noch mal neu und verzichtest dabei auf Module (mit allen bekannten Vor- u. Nachteilen) 4. Du trägst die Module, in die /etc/modules ein 5. Wenn du das Startskript ein zweites mal aufrufst werden kurioser Weise plötzlich alle Module geladen. Du könntest also als Würgeround die Startsequenz im Startskript verdoppeln. Für welchen Würgeround du dich entscheidest bleibt dir überlassen. ttyl8er, t.k. Danke für die Tipps. Ich habe mousedev in /etc/modules eingetragen. Es wird auch geladen. lsmod zeigt: mousedev 11840 0 Ich habe auch den offiziellen Sarge-Kernel probiert, sofern der mit dem Debian-Paket kernel-image-2.6.11-1-686 gemeint ist. Das funktioniert bei mir aber genauso wenig. Ich vermute das mir noch irgendetwas fehlt? -- Don't panic -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: PS/2-Maus bewegt sich unter Kernel 2.6 nicht
On 31.Jul 2005 - 12:05:18, Matthias Meyer wrote: Thomas Kosch wrote: Du hast jetzt drei Möglichkeiten: 1. Du benutzt den offiziellen Sarge Kernel 2. Du benutzt einen Kernel 2.6.12 3. Du baust den Kernel noch mal neu und verzichtest dabei auf Module (mit allen bekannten Vor- u. Nachteilen) 4. Du trägst die Module, in die /etc/modules ein 5. Wenn du das Startskript ein zweites mal aufrufst werden kurioser Weise plötzlich alle Module geladen. Du könntest also als Würgeround die Startsequenz im Startskript verdoppeln. Kannst du deinem Mailclient bitte beibringen keine extra Leerzeilen einzufuegen, sieht ja schlimm aus... Ich habe mousedev in /etc/modules eingetragen. Es wird auch geladen. lsmod zeigt: mousedev 11840 0 Ich habe auch den offiziellen Sarge-Kernel probiert, sofern der mit dem Debian-Paket kernel-image-2.6.11-1-686 gemeint ist. Das funktioniert bei Das Paket gibts nicht in Sarge, der offizielle Sarge-Kernel ist kernel-image-2.6.8-1-686 (Namen lieber nochmal mit apt-cache search ueberpruefen, bin mir nicht ganz sicher). Ich vermute das mir noch irgendetwas fehlt? Wenn du den Kernel eh selbst baust, pack doch alles noetige fest in denselben, ich hatte hier noch nie Probleme mit _irgendeinem_ 2.6er Kernel (jedenfalls nicht mit dem Touchpad - Maus ist eh USB). Andreas -- Do something unusual today. Pay a bill. -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: PS/2-Maus bewegt sich unter Kernel 2.6 nicht
On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 22:05:14 +0200 Thomas Kosch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Du benutzt einen Kernel der für Sarge nicht geeignet ist (für Sid/Etch übrigens auch nicht). Für Sarge magst du Recht haben. Aber warum sollte man keinen 2.6.12er in Sid verwenden? Bei mir hat udev sogar vor einiger Zeit beim Update gemeckert, ich hätte einen zu alten kKernel (2.6.11.4 damals). Dazu die Paketbeschreibung von udev: # apt-cache show udev Package: udev Version: 0.063-1 Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.2.ds1-21), libselinux1 (= 1.24), hotplug (= Description: /dev/ management daemon udev is a program which dynamically creates and removes device nodes from /dev/. It responds to /sbin/hotplug device events and requires a kernel not older than 2.6.12. ^^ Oder gibt es noch weitere Contra-2.6.12 Argumente, die ich nicht kenne? -- ^^^| Evgeni -SargentD- Golov ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) d(O_o)b | PGP-Key-ID: 0xAC15B50C -|- | WWW: www.die-welt.net ICQ: 54116744 / \| IRC: #sod @ irc.german-freakz.net pgpLCP5pRj6t0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: PS/2-Maus bewegt sich unter Kernel 2.6 nicht
On Day 66 of Confusion 3171, Evgeni Golov wrote: On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 22:05:14 +0200 Thomas Kosch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Das heißt *line* und nicht Roman Du benutzt einen Kernel der für Sarge nicht geeignet ist (für Sid/Etch übrigens auch nicht). Für Sarge magst du Recht haben. Aber warum sollte man keinen 2.6.12er in Sid verwenden? Bei mir hat udev sogar vor einiger Zeit beim Update gemeckert, ich hätte einen zu alten kKernel (2.6.11.4 damals). Dazu die Paketbeschreibung von udev: # apt-cache show udev Package: udev Version: 0.063-1 Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.2.ds1-21), libselinux1 (= 1.24), hotplug (= Description: /dev/ management daemon udev is a program which dynamically creates and removes device nodes from /dev/. It responds to /sbin/hotplug device events and requires a kernel not older than 2.6.12. ^^ Was bitteschön hast du an *unstable* nicht verstanden? Oder gibt es noch weitere Contra-2.6.12 Argumente, die ich nicht kenne? , | Jul 30 16:32:56 gryffindor hald[5853]: Timed out waiting for hotplug event 1071. Rebasing to 1083 | Jul 30 16:36:02 gryffindor hald[5872]: Timed out waiting for hotplug event 993. Rebasing to 995 | Jul 30 16:36:44 gryffindor hald[5872]: Timed out waiting for hotplug event 997. Rebasing to 1001 | Jul 30 16:37:09 gryffindor hald[5872]: Timed out waiting for hotplug event 1003. Rebasing to 1004 | Jul 30 16:37:11 gryffindor hald[5872]: Timed out waiting for hotplug event 1005. Rebasing to 1040 | Jul 30 16:45:07 gryffindor hald[5872]: Timed out waiting for hotplug event 1044. Rebasing to 1048 | Jul 30 16:59:39 gryffindor hald[5872]: Timed out waiting for hotplug event 1051. Rebasing to 1065 ` Und warum die WLAN Verbindung praktisch fast völlig zusammenbricht wenn ich den Bluetooth USB Adapter anstecke ist mir im Moment auch noch nicht völlig klar. -- Year, n.: A period of three hundred and sixty-five disappointments. -- Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary
Re: PS/2-Maus bewegt sich unter Kernel 2.6 nicht
Andreas Pakulat wrote: snipp Kannst du deinem Mailclient bitte beibringen keine extra Leerzeilen einzufuegen, sieht ja schlimm aus... Ich weiß nicht was da passiert ist. In meinem knode steht meine Mail im Augangs-Ordner ohne diese Leerzeilen. Wenn diese jetzt wieder mit Leerzeilen in der News-Group aufscheint werd ich mal suchen woran das liegen könnte. snipp Das Paket gibts nicht in Sarge, der offizielle Sarge-Kernel ist kernel-image-2.6.8-1-686 (Namen lieber nochmal mit apt-cache search ueberpruefen, bin mir nicht ganz sicher). Ein apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6 liefert Ergebnisse mit den Versionsnummern: 2.6 (natürlich mit -686, -386, -smp, ...) 2.6.8-2 2.6.8-11 2.6.11-1 2.6.11-9 Das bei mir installierte kernel-image-2.6.11-1-686 ist da also auch dabei. Woran erkenne ich, was ein offizieller Sarge-Kernel ist und was nicht? Sorry, bin recht neu bei Debian. Hatte früher Mandrake. Ich vermute das mir noch irgendetwas fehlt? Wenn du den Kernel eh selbst baust, pack doch alles noetige fest in denselben, ich hatte hier noch nie Probleme mit _irgendeinem_ 2.6er Kernel (jedenfalls nicht mit dem Touchpad - Maus ist eh USB). Ja, das hatte ich auch vor. Daher hier nochmal meine CONFIG. Weißt du vielleicht was alles nötig ist? grep MOUSE /boot/config-2.6.12 CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV=m CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_PSAUX=y CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_SCREEN_X=1024 CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_SCREEN_Y=768 CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSE=y CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2=m CONFIG_MOUSE_SERIAL=m CONFIG_MOUSE_INPORT=m # CONFIG_MOUSE_ATIXL is not set CONFIG_MOUSE_LOGIBM=m CONFIG_MOUSE_PC110PAD=m CONFIG_MOUSE_VSXXXAA=m CONFIG_USB_MOUSE=m CONFIG_USB_IDMOUSE=m Meinst du ich sollte mousedev nicht als Modul verwenden sondern in den Kernel bauen? Also CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV=y und CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2=y wählen? ImMo habe ich ja keine USB-Maus angeschlossen. Matthias -- Don't panic -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: PS/2-Maus bewegt sich unter Kernel 2.6 nicht
On Day 66 of Confusion 3171, Matthias Meyer wrote: Andreas Pakulat wrote: Das Paket gibts nicht in Sarge, der offizielle Sarge-Kernel ist kernel-image-2.6.8-1-686 (Namen lieber nochmal mit apt-cache search ueberpruefen, bin mir nicht ganz sicher). Ein apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6 liefert Ergebnisse mit den Versionsnummern: 2.6 (natürlich mit -686, -386, -smp, ...) 2.6.8-2 2.6.8-11 2.6.11-1 ^^ 2.6.11-9 ^^ Das ist nicht Sarge. Das ist Etch aka testing. Das bei mir installierte kernel-image-2.6.11-1-686 ist da also auch dabei. Nein. Woran erkenne ich, was ein offizieller Sarge-Kernel ist und was nicht? In dem du nachschaust ob der Kernel in Sarge enthalten ist. Und kernel-image-2.6.11-1-686 , | [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache policy kernel-image-2.6.11-1-386 | kernel-image-2.6.11-1-386: | Installiert:(keine) | Mögliche Pakete:2.6.11-7 | Versions-Tabelle: | 2.6.11-7 0 | 400 ftp://ftp.de.debian.org etch/main Packages | [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ` ist es definitiv nicht. ttyl8er, t.k. -- Prof:So the American government went to IBM to come up with a data encryption standard and they came up with ... Student: EBCDIC!
Re: PS/2-Maus bewegt sich unter Kernel 2.6 nicht
On 31.Jul 2005 - 18:25:15, Matthias Meyer wrote: Andreas Pakulat wrote: snipp Kannst du deinem Mailclient bitte beibringen keine extra Leerzeilen einzufuegen, sieht ja schlimm aus... Ich weiß nicht was da passiert ist. In meinem knode steht meine Mail im Augangs-Ordner ohne diese Leerzeilen. Wenn diese jetzt wieder mit Leerzeilen in der News-Group aufscheint werd ich mal suchen woran das liegen könnte. Jetzt gehts... Das Paket gibts nicht in Sarge, der offizielle Sarge-Kernel ist kernel-image-2.6.8-1-686 (Namen lieber nochmal mit apt-cache search ueberpruefen, bin mir nicht ganz sicher). Ein apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6 liefert Ergebnisse mit den Versionsnummern: 2.6 (natürlich mit -686, -386, -smp, ...) 2.6.8-2 2.6.8-11 2.6.11-1 2.6.11-9 Also 2.6.8-2 und -11 sind Sarge Kernel, die anderen kommen aus testing bzw. unstable. Das bei mir installierte kernel-image-2.6.11-1-686 ist da also auch dabei. Woran erkenne ich, was ein offizieller Sarge-Kernel ist und was nicht? Sorry, bin recht neu bei Debian. Hatte früher Mandrake. apt-cache policy zeigt dir von welchem sources.list Eintrag ein bestimmtes Paket kommt (bzw. kommen wuerde, wenn es noch nicht installiert ist). Dort einfach schauen welche aus Sarge kommen. Alternativ kann man auch packages.debian.org nach Paketnamen fragen. grep MOUSE /boot/config-2.6.12 CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV=m CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_PSAUX=y CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_SCREEN_X=1024 CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_SCREEN_Y=768 CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSE=y CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2=m Das alles ^ CONFIG_MOUSE_SERIAL=m CONFIG_MOUSE_INPORT=m Das beides eher nicht. # CONFIG_MOUSE_ATIXL is not set CONFIG_MOUSE_LOGIBM=m CONFIG_MOUSE_PC110PAD=m CONFIG_MOUSE_VSXXXAA=m Ebensowenig wie die 4. CONFIG_USB_MOUSE=m Das gibts bei 2.6er Kernel gar nicht. USB-Maeuse werden ueber USB_HID angesprochen. CONFIG_USB_IDMOUSE=m Hab ich hier auch nicht drin. Meinst du ich sollte mousedev nicht als Modul verwenden sondern in den Kernel bauen? Also CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV=y und CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2=y wählen? Jepp. Eventuell musst du die beiden Module naemlich auch in der passenden Reihenfolge laden (wahrscheinlich mousedev vor psaux)... In jedem Fall gehts hier mit den ersten paar Optionen fest im Kernel. Der einzige Wermutstropfen: Ich muss das Touchpad meist 2x anschalten damit X11 das mitkriegt... Andreas -- Your talents will be recognized and suitably rewarded. -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: PS/2-Maus bewegt sich unter Kernel 2.6 nicht
Matthias Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ein apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6 liefert Ergebnisse mit den Versionsnummern: 2.6 (natürlich mit -686, -386, -smp, ...) 2.6.8-2 2.6.8-11 2.6.11-1 2.6.11-9 Das bei mir installierte kernel-image-2.6.11-1-686 ist da also auch dabei. Woran erkenne ich, was ein offizieller Sarge-Kernel ist und was nicht? Sorry, bin recht neu bei Debian. Hatte früher Mandrake. apt-cache policy kernel-image-2.6.11-1-386 kernel-image-2.6.8-1-386 Ulrich
Re: PS/2-Maus bewegt sich unter Kernel 2.6 nicht
Am Sonntag, 31. Juli 2005 18:25 schrieb Matthias Meyer: Ich vermute das mir noch irgendetwas fehlt? Wenn du den Kernel eh selbst baust, pack doch alles noetige fest in denselben, ich hatte hier noch nie Probleme mit _irgendeinem_ 2.6er Kernel (jedenfalls nicht mit dem Touchpad - Maus ist eh USB). Ja, das hatte ich auch vor. Daher hier nochmal meine CONFIG. Weißt du vielleicht was alles nötig ist? grep MOUSE /boot/config-2.6.12 CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV=m CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_PSAUX=y CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_SCREEN_X=1024 CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_SCREEN_Y=768 CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSE=y CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2=m CONFIG_MOUSE_SERIAL=m CONFIG_MOUSE_INPORT=m # CONFIG_MOUSE_ATIXL is not set CONFIG_MOUSE_LOGIBM=m CONFIG_MOUSE_PC110PAD=m CONFIG_MOUSE_VSXXXAA=m CONFIG_USB_MOUSE=m CONFIG_USB_IDMOUSE=m Meinst du ich sollte mousedev nicht als Modul verwenden sondern in den Kernel bauen? Also CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV=y und CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2=y wählen? ImMo habe ich ja keine USB-Maus angeschlossen. Matthias -- Don't panic Hallo Matthias, hatte das gleiche Problem: mit 2.4 lief alles wunder bar mir 2.6.x nix. Ab den 2.6er Kernel wurde anscheinend das PS/2-Interface verändert, bei mir hats dann ein Workaround getan: übergib dem Kernel beim boot (entweder fest in grub/lilo config oder manuell am prompt): `psmouse.proto=imps' (wahlweise statt imps auch ps/2). Natürlich musst du sicherstellen, dass psmouse mousedev als Module/ fest geladen sind. -- Grüße, Simon
Re: PS/2-Maus bewegt sich unter Kernel 2.6 nicht
On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 14:42:55 +0200 Thomas Kosch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Day 66 of Confusion 3171, Evgeni Golov wrote: On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 22:05:14 +0200 Thomas Kosch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Das heißt *line* und nicht Roman -v ? Du benutzt einen Kernel der für Sarge nicht geeignet ist (für Sid/ Etch übrigens auch nicht). Für Sarge magst du Recht haben. Aber warum sollte man keinen 2.6.12er in Sid verwenden? Bei mir hat udev sogar vor einiger Zeit beim Update gemeckert, ich hätte einen zu alten kKernel (2.6.11.4 damals). Dazu die Paketbeschreibung von udev: # apt-cache show udev Package: udev Version: 0.063-1 Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.2.ds1-21), libselinux1 (= 1.24), hotplug (= Description: /dev/ management daemon udev is a program which dynamically creates and removes device nodes from /dev/. It responds to /sbin/hotplug device events and requires a kernel not older than 2.6.12. ^^ Was bitteschön hast du an *unstable* nicht verstanden? Das Gleiche, was du an meiner Mail. Die Frage war, warum ein .12er Kernel nicht für Sid geeignet ist, obwohl Pakete in Sid eine 'Abhängigkeit' drauf haben. Nicht, ob es bei XYZ stabil läuft. Oder gibt es noch weitee Contra-2.6.12 Argumente, die ich nicht kenne? , | Jul 30 16:32:56 gryffindor hald[5853]: Timed out waiting for | hotplug event 1071. Rebasing to 1083 Jul 30 16:36:02 gryffindor hald | [5872]: Timed out waiting for hotplug event 993. Rebasing to 995 | Jul 30 16:36:44 gryffindor hald[5872]: Timed out waiting for | hotplug event 997. Rebasing to 1001 Jul 30 16:37:09 gryffindor hald | [5872]: Timed out waiting for hotplug event 1003. Rebasing to 1004 | Jul 30 16:37:11 gryffindor hald[5872]: Timed out waiting for | hotplug event 1005. Rebasing to 1040 Jul 30 16:45:07 gryffindor hald | [5872]: Timed out waiting for hotplug event 1044. Rebasing to 1048 | Jul 30 16:59:39 gryffindor hald[5872]: Timed out waiting for | hotplug event 1051. Rebasing to 1065 ` Und warum die WLAN Verbindung praktisch fast völlig zusammenbricht wenn ich den Bluetooth USB Adapter anstecke ist mir im Moment auch noch nicht völlig klar. Liegt wohl an unstable und _deiner_ Hardware? Hier läuft alles soweit stabil. -- ^^^| Evgeni -SargentD- Golov ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) d(O_o)b | PGP-Key-ID: 0xAC15B50C -|- | WWW: www.die-welt.net ICQ: 54116744 / \| IRC: #sod @ irc.german-freakz.net pgp9ja3CrDhxG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: PS/2-Maus bewegt sich unter Kernel 2.6 nicht
Evgeni Golov schrieb: On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 14:42:55 +0200 Thomas Kosch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Day 66 of Confusion 3171, Evgeni Golov wrote: On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 22:05:14 +0200 Thomas Kosch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Das heißt *line* und nicht Roman -v ? Schau dir mal die oberen Zeilen an; da sollte doch eigentlich der Groschen fallen, oder? ;) MfG Jan -- OpenPGP Public-Key Fingerprint: 0E9B 4052 C661 5018 93C3 4E46 651A 7A28 4028 FF7A pgpQbjgl3Kcoq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: PS/2-Maus bewegt sich unter Kernel 2.6 nicht
On 7/30/05, Matthias Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo, Wenn ich mein Debian/Sarge mit Kernel 2.4.24 starte geht die PS/2-Maus. Wenn ich das gleiche System mit Kernel 2.6.12 starte bewegt sie sich kein Stück. In /var/log/XFree86.0.log meckert XFree das es das Device /dev/psaux nicht öffnen könnte. Ich habe auch /dev/input/mice versucht. Geht aber aus demselben Grund nicht. Hmm, ich hatte das selbe Problem, auch mit nem selbstgebauten 2.6.12.2, allerdings hat es erst funktioniert! Aber nach ein paar upgrades ging es dann nach einem Reboot plötzlich nicht mehr.. mit 2.6.11 wurde die Mouse wieder gefunden... habs seitdem nicht mehr mit 2.6.12.2 versucht. cheers, Christian
Re: PS/2-Maus bewegt sich unter Kernel 2.6 nicht
Also sprach Matthias Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sat, 30 Jul 2005 20:02:52 +0200): Hallo, Wenn ich mein Debian/Sarge mit Kernel 2.4.24 starte geht die PS/2-Maus. Wenn ich das gleiche System mit Kernel 2.6.12 starte bewegt sie sich kein Stück. In /var/log/XFree86.0.log meckert XFree das es das Device /dev/psaux nicht öffnen könnte. Ich habe auch /dev/input/mice versucht. Geht aber aus demselben Grund nicht. Ich habe den Kernel 2.6 selbst gebaut: grep MOUSE /boot/config-2.6.12 CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV=m CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_PSAUX=y CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_SCREEN_X=1024 CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_SCREEN_Y=768 CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSE=y CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2=m CONFIG_MOUSE_SERIAL=m CONFIG_MOUSE_INPORT=m # CONFIG_MOUSE_ATIXL is not set CONFIG_MOUSE_LOGIBM=m CONFIG_MOUSE_PC110PAD=m CONFIG_MOUSE_VSXXXAA=m CONFIG_USB_MOUSE=m CONFIG_USB_IDMOUSE=m In dmesg findet sich: input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0 input: ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse on isa0060/serio1 serio: i8042 AUX port at 0x60,0x64 irq 12 serio: i8042 KBD port at 0x60,0x64 irq 1 [...] mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice lsmod sagt: Module Size Used by psmouse31396 0 [...] Was läuft falsch? Was muss ich machen? wenn das device funktioniert, sollte bei einem # cat /dev/psaux was beim bewegen des zeigers angezeigt werden. /dev/psaux ist deprecated, was aber noch ignoriert werden kann, wenn's denn im kernel explizit aktiviert ist. /proc/interrupts sollte keine doppelbelegung des irq 12 anzeigen. hier ist der kontroller ein i8042 - CONFIG_SERIO*. und der treiber fest im kernel. # # Hardware I/O ports # CONFIG_SERIO=y CONFIG_SERIO_I8042=y # CONFIG_SERIO_SERPORT is not set # CONFIG_SERIO_CT82C710 is not set # CONFIG_SERIO_PCIPS2 is not set CONFIG_SERIO_LIBPS2=y # CONFIG_SERIO_RAW is not set # CONFIG_GAMEPORT is not set Danke Matthias sl ritch
Re: PS/2-Maus bewegt sich unter Kernel 2.6 nicht
On Day 65 of Confusion 3171, Matthias Meyer wrote: Wenn ich mein Debian/Sarge mit Kernel 2.4.24 starte geht die PS/2-Maus. Wenn ich das gleiche System mit Kernel 2.6.12 starte bewegt sie sich kein Warum benutzt du nicht den offiziellen Sarge Kernel? Stück. In /var/log/XFree86.0.log meckert XFree das es das Device /dev/psaux nicht öffnen könnte. /dev/psaux ist deprecated Ich habe auch /dev/input/mice versucht. Geht aber aus demselben Grund nicht. [Kenel config] [module list] [XF86Config-4] Was läuft falsch? Was muss ich machen? Du benutzt einen Kernel der für Sarge nicht geeignet ist (für Sid/Etch übrigens auch nicht). Das Problem ist, das Module mousedev ist nicht geladen. Wenn du ansonsten das Standard Setup von Debian benutzt wird das eigentlich von hotplug erledigt. Ab dem 2.6.12 allerdings gibt es das Problem das hotplug plötzlich nicht mehr alle Module lädt. Du hast jetzt drei Möglichkeiten: 1. Du benutzt den offiziellen Sarge Kernel 2. Du benutzt einen Kernel 2.6.12 3. Du baust den Kernel noch mal neu und verzichtest dabei auf Module (mit allen bekannten Vor- u. Nachteilen) 4. Du trägst die Module, in die /etc/modules ein 5. Wenn du das Startskript ein zweites mal aufrufst werden kurioser Weise plötzlich alle Module geladen. Du könntest also als Würgeround die Startsequenz im Startskript verdoppeln. Für welchen Würgeround du dich entscheidest bleibt dir überlassen. ttyl8er, t.k. -- Year, n.: A period of three hundred and sixty-five disappointments. -- Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary
Re: PS/2 unter Kernel 2.6
Halo Rüdiger, Rüdiger Noack wrote: - snip --- psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1 - snip --- modprobe psmouse proto=imps ^^ hat bei mir geholfen. Als Protokoll dann überall ImPS/2 einstellen. Bye Torsten -- Torsten Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ich bin entschieden gegen Softwarepatente in Europa! Wichtige Informationen unter http://www.ffii.org
Re: PS/2 unter Kernel 2.6
Torsten Berger schrieb: Rüdiger Noack wrote: - snip --- psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1 - snip --- modprobe psmouse proto=imps ^^ Perfekt, danke! Wo findet man eigentlich Informationen zu den Modulparametern? Gruß Rüdiger -- -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: PS/2 unter Kernel 2.6
On Wed, 2004-09-01 at 12:41, Rüdiger Noack wrote: modprobe psmouse proto=imps ^^ Perfekt, danke! Wo findet man eigentlich Informationen zu den Modulparametern? Bei installierten Kernel-Quellen: /usr/src/linux/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt Gruß Richard
Re: PS/2 unter Kernel 2.6
Hallo Rüdiger Rüdiger Noack wrote: modprobe psmouse proto=imps Wo findet man eigentlich Informationen zu den Modulparametern? Im Kernel-Tree. Die Datei /usr/src/linux/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt erschlägt schon vieles. Speziuell zu diesem Problem steht schon ein Hinweis in der Hilfe des Kernel-Setups zum Modul PS2 Mouse. Bye Torsten. -- Torsten Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ich bin entschieden gegen Softwarepatente in Europa! Wichtige Informationen unter http://www.ffii.org
Re: PS/2 unter Kernel 2.6
Rdiger Noack [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Torsten Berger schrieb: Rdiger Noack wrote: - snip --- psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1 - snip --- modprobe psmouse proto=imps ^^ Perfekt, danke! Wo findet man eigentlich Informationen zu den Modulparametern? Ergnzend zu dem, was andere bereits gesagt haben: In dem jeweiligen Modul selbst, abfragbar mit modinfo. Die Eingabe von /sbin/modinfo psmouse gibt unter anderem aus, welche Parameter dieses Modul akzeptiert. Martin -- ,--. ,= ,-_-. =. / ,- )Martin Dickopp, Dresden, Germany((_/)o o(\_)) \ `-'http://www.zero-based.org/`-'(. .)`-' `-. \_/
Re: PS/2 unter Kernel 2.6
Rüdiger Noack wrote: Unter 2.6 ist auf dem Notebook die PS/2-Maus nicht nutzbar. Bei jeder Berührung hagelt es solche Fehlermeldungen: - snip --- psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1 - snip --- Hallo! Vielleicht ist [1]hier was passendes dabei. [1] http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/2199 Gerald -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: PS/2-Maus unter X mit Kernel 2.6.7
Hallo, On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 21:07:02 +0200 Snoopy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hier mein zweites Problem, ich kann zwar unter X eine USB-Maus benutzen, möchte aber über einen KVM-Switch eine PS/2-Maus mit einem anderen PC teilen. Leider ändert sich nichts, wenn ich die Maus direkt am PC anschliesse, weder wird sie mit mdetect (aufgerufen durch dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86) erkannt, noch kann ich sie manuell so konfigurieren, dass sich irgendwas bewegt... Na ich denke das das wichtigste jetzt mal ist das deine Maus läuft wenn sie direkt am PC angeschlossen ist, und wenn das mal richtig geht kann man sich dem Problem mit dem KVM Switch zuwenden. Markus hat das doch gut erklärt, wenn du beim aufrufen von dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 die maus manuel auswählst und dabei auf /dev/input/mice und beim nächsten menu auf ImPS/2 gehst müßte eine PS2 Maus laufen. Grüsse August Meier Gruß Norbert -- (engl)
Re: PS/2-Maus unter X mit Kernel 2.6.7
Norbert Leibold wrote: Hallo, On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 21:07:02 +0200 Snoopy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hier mein zweites Problem, ich kann zwar unter X eine USB-Maus benutzen, möchte aber über einen KVM-Switch eine PS/2-Maus mit einem anderen PC teilen. Leider ändert sich nichts, wenn ich die Maus direkt am PC anschliesse, weder wird sie mit mdetect (aufgerufen durch dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86) erkannt, noch kann ich sie manuell so konfigurieren, dass sich irgendwas bewegt... Na ich denke das das wichtigste jetzt mal ist das deine Maus läuft wenn sie direkt am PC angeschlossen ist, und wenn das mal richtig geht kann man sich dem Problem mit dem KVM Switch zuwenden. Markus hat das doch gut erklärt, wenn du beim aufrufen von dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 die maus manuel auswählst und dabei auf /dev/input/mice und beim nächsten menu auf ImPS/2 gehst müßte eine PS2 Maus laufen. Grüsse August Meier Gruß Norbert -- (engl) Vielen Dank, Norbert, hab' ich alles schon versucht (über dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 als auch manuell), funktioniert aber nicht... Markus hat meine XF86Config-4 angeschaut - ist absolut i.O. - so wie es sein sollte - ich mag einfach nicht zwei Mäuse (auch wenn es Logitech Trackballs sind) auf dem Schreibtisch haben, wenns mit einer geht... -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: PS/2-Maus unter X mit Kernel 2.6.7
Hallo, On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 23:10:30 +0200 Snoopy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo zusammen, hier mein zweites Problem, ich kann zwar unter X eine USB-Maus benutzen, möchte aber über einen KVM-Switch eine PS/2-Maus mit einem anderen PC teilen. Das Problem hatte ich auch und ich habe eine ganze weile gebraucht bis ich darauf gekommen bin das es am KVM - Switch mit Kernel 2.6 liegt. Du kannst es ja einfach mal testen in dem du deine PS/2 Maus direkt am PC anschließt ob sie dann ein Lebenszeichen von sich gibt. Den Tipp was ich bekommen habe war der auf der Kernel - Kommandozeile mit psmouse.proto=bare zu starten. Ich musste dann zusätzlich noch die PS/2 fest einkompilieren. Danach konnte ich die Maus auch mit dem KVM - Switch wieder zur Mitarbeit bewegen. Wie kriege ich die Maus unter X zum Laufen? Besten Dank für Eure Hilfe! Grüsse August Meier Gruß Norbert -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: PS/2-Maus unter X mit Kernel 2.6.7
Norbert Leibold wrote: Hallo, On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 23:10:30 +0200 Snoopy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo zusammen, hier mein zweites Problem, ich kann zwar unter X eine USB-Maus benutzen, möchte aber über einen KVM-Switch eine PS/2-Maus mit einem anderen PC teilen. Das Problem hatte ich auch und ich habe eine ganze weile gebraucht bis ich darauf gekommen bin das es am KVM - Switch mit Kernel 2.6 liegt. Du kannst es ja einfach mal testen in dem du deine PS/2 Maus direkt am PC anschließt ob sie dann ein Lebenszeichen von sich gibt. Den Tipp was ich bekommen habe war der auf der Kernel - Kommandozeile mit psmouse.proto=bare zu starten. Ich musste dann zusätzlich noch die PS/2 fest einkompilieren. Danach konnte ich die Maus auch mit dem KVM - Switch wieder zur Mitarbeit bewegen. Wie kriege ich die Maus unter X zum Laufen? Besten Dank für Eure Hilfe! Grüsse August Meier Gruß Norbert -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl) Vielen Dank! Leider ändert sich nichts, wenn ich die Maus direkt am PC anschliesse, weder wird sie mit mdetect (aufgerufen durch dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86) erkannt, noch kann ich sie manuell so konfigurieren, dass sich irgendwas bewegt... Den Kernel zu kompilieren habe ich schon versucht - da bewege ich mich aber auf sehr dünnem Eis - ich kriege kaum jemals einen zum laufen, haben das Image 2.6.7 aus Sarge installiert (mittels aptitude). Grüsse August Meier -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: PS/2-Maus unter X mit Kernel 2.6.7
Hallo Snoopy, da hat sich zwischen der Kernelserie 2.4 und 2.6 was geaendert: Das Mouse Device ist anders. Statt /dev/psaux gibt es nun /dev/input/mice. Allerdings gibt es das alte Maus-Device weiter, je nach Kernelkonfiguration... Um die Maus mit dem neuen Kernel zum Fliegen zu bekommen, brauchst Du folgendes: Die Section in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 Section InputDevice Identifier Configured Mouse Driver mouse Option CorePointer Option Device/dev/psaux Option Protocol PS/2 Option Emulate3Buttons true Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection lautet nun anders, naemlich so: Section InputDevice Identifier Configured Mouse Driver mouse Option CorePointer Option Device/dev/input/mice Option Protocol PS/2 Option Emulate3Buttons true Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection Es kann sein, dass in der /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 beide Sections drin sind, was bewirkt, dass Deine Maus ziemlich schnell ueber den Bildschirm flitzt: Es werden naemlich vom kernel 2.6 beide Devices zur Verfuegung gestellt, und das bedeutet, dass jedes Maussignal doppelt ausgewertet wird. Welche Module nun exakt benoetigt werden, kann ich grad nicht sagen, weil ich im Moment noch unter dem alten Kernel arbeite (muss nen ISDN-Zweikanal-Download machen, der unter 2.6 nicht funktioniert)... Aber vielleicht faellt den anderen Postern dieser Liste dazu ja was ein. Probier auch mal $ dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 Viele Gruesse, Markus -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: PS/2 Mouse Problem!
Kent West wrote: If you do, you'll need to run gpmconfig and configure it to repeat the data as ms, then reconfigure X to pull the data from /dev/gpmdata. The only repeat data type that works for me is 'raw'. (shrug) Bob pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: PS/2 Mouse Problem!
On Monday 10 May 2004 02:55, Kaveh Gh wrote: Hi! (Again) In /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, the mouse device has been defined according to the following lines: Section InputDevice Identifier Configured Mouse Driver mouse Option CorePointer Option Device /dev/psaux Option Protocol ImPS/2 Option Emulate3Buttonstrue Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Mouse Driver mouse Option SendCoreEvents true Option Device/dev/input/mice Option Protocol ImPS/2 Option Emulate3Buttonstrue Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection As you can see, the mouse protocol that X uses is ImPS/2. In X environment, mouse works not really fine! I mean when I move the mouse slowly, it works not bad, but when I move it fast, it jumps from one side to the other side of screen, unwanted clicks and undesired scrolling will be happened :( You are not running gpm as well by any chance? Your symptoms sound as though you might be. If so you need Option Device/dev/gpmdata Option Protocol IntelliMouse And also check that /etc/gpm.conf contains something like repeat_type=ms3 device= ; might be /dev/input/mice or ; /dev/psaux - I've no idea type=imps2 If you are fiddling with gpm, just hop into a terminal and edit /etc/gpm.conf, restart gpm (with '/etc/init.d/gpm restart') and see if the mouse is happy in the terminal. Once it is working correctly, edit your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and restart X. -- richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PS/2 Mouse Problem!
Kaveh Gh wrote: Hi! (Again) In /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, the mouse device has been defined according to the following lines: Section InputDevice Identifier Configured Mouse Driver mouse Option CorePointer Option Device /dev/psaux Option Protocol ImPS/2 Option Emulate3Buttons true Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Mouse Driver mouse Option SendCoreEvents true Option Device/dev/input/mice Option Protocol ImPS/2 Option Emulate3Buttons true Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection As you can see, the mouse protocol that X uses is ImPS/2. In X environment, mouse works not really fine! I mean when I move the mouse slowly, it works not bad, but when I move it fast, it jumps from one side to the other side of screen, unwanted clicks and undesired scrolling will be happened :( I have changed ImPS/2 to PS/2, but no good results have been got and the mouse behavior becomes really bad!! Go back to ImPS/2 ; I think that was better! Please let me know that besides PS/2, ImPS/2, autoPS/2, which kind of protocol I have to test? Until now, I have not tested autoPS/2. My mouse is PS/2 with netscrolling capability. Looking 4 your recommandations and suggestions. I suspect you have gpm installed. (Press Ctrl-Alt-F1 and move your mouse around; do you see a white block cursor tracking your movements? If so, then yes, you have gpm installed. Ctrl-F7 should get you back to the X Window System.) If you do, you'll need to run gpmconfig and configure it to repeat the data as ms, then reconfigure X to pull the data from /dev/gpmdata. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PS/2 mouse not working after upgrade to kernel 2.6.0
Everything worked perfectly once I modprobe'd mousedev. Thanks for the help. Kevin Wortman Peter Samuelson wrote: [Kevin Wortman] (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/psaux No such device. I tried to cat /dev/psaux and /dev/input/mice and /dev/input/mouse0 , and all give a device not found error, which led me to believe the kernel module was not loaded. But my dmesg contains input: PS2++ Logitech Mouse on isa0060/serio1 With the kernel input layer, there are three components to the mouse driver now. One is 'psmouse', which you already have loaded. Another is 'input', which is autoloaded. The third is the frontend, 'mousedev', which takes mouse data and produces an emulated PS/2 Intellimouse on /dev/input/mice - and optionally on /dev/psaux as well, for backward compatibility. Note that 'mousedev' is not strictly needed - if your applications can deal with the 'event interface' instead, you can just load the 'evdev' module and use /dev/input/event0 et al. as an alternate front-end driver for mouse packet output. But normally you just want 'mousedev' and /dev/input/mice. Peter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PS/2 mouse not working after upgrade to kernel 2.6.0
[Kevin Wortman] (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/psaux No such device. I tried to cat /dev/psaux and /dev/input/mice and /dev/input/mouse0 , and all give a device not found error, which led me to believe the kernel module was not loaded. But my dmesg contains input: PS2++ Logitech Mouse on isa0060/serio1 With the kernel input layer, there are three components to the mouse driver now. One is 'psmouse', which you already have loaded. Another is 'input', which is autoloaded. The third is the frontend, 'mousedev', which takes mouse data and produces an emulated PS/2 Intellimouse on /dev/input/mice - and optionally on /dev/psaux as well, for backward compatibility. Note that 'mousedev' is not strictly needed - if your applications can deal with the 'event interface' instead, you can just load the 'evdev' module and use /dev/input/event0 et al. as an alternate front-end driver for mouse packet output. But normally you just want 'mousedev' and /dev/input/mice. Peter signature.asc Description: Digital signature
