Re: unstable web browsers
On 24/06/12 18:19, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 24 iun 12, 16:49:43, john gennard wrote: I have eliminated problems with the mouse. Also, I've used a small partition on the drive and installed Win XP and this works perfectly thus eliminating problems with the graphic card. Would it be feasible for you to try the kernel and Xorg from backports? I presume so. I've read the backports web page and it seems simple enough to use. Do you mean recompiling the kernel? Regards, John. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fe81851.4000...@btinternet.com
Re: unstable web browsers
On Lu, 25 iun 12, 08:50:41, john gennard wrote: On 24/06/12 18:19, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 24 iun 12, 16:49:43, john gennard wrote: I have eliminated problems with the mouse. Also, I've used a small partition on the drive and installed Win XP and this works perfectly thus eliminating problems with the graphic card. Would it be feasible for you to try the kernel and Xorg from backports? I presume so. I've read the backports web page and it seems simple enough to use. For single packages it is very easy, just apt-get install -t squeeze-backports package but I don't know exactly which package to pull for Xorg. I would try xserver-xorg-video-radeon and hope it will pull anything else needed with it ;) Do you mean recompiling the kernel? No, there is a 3.2 kernel on backports (it has bpo in it's name). Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: unstable web browsers
On Monday 25 June 2012 11:36:06 Andrei POPESCU wrote: For single packages it is very easy, just apt-get install -t squeeze-backports package Andrei - John will need to add backports to his sources.list, surely. Or has he already done so, and I have been asleep? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201206251609.04478.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: unstable web browsers
On 25/06/12 16:09, Lisi wrote: On Monday 25 June 2012 11:36:06 Andrei POPESCU wrote: For single packages it is very easy, just apt-get install -t squeeze-backportspackage Andrei - John will need to add backports to his sources.list, surely. Or has he already done so, and I have been asleep? Lisi Yes, I had already done that. Thanks. John. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fe88def.1070...@btinternet.com
Re: unstable web browsers
On 25/06/12 11:36, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Lu, 25 iun 12, 08:50:41, john gennard wrote: On 24/06/12 18:19, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 24 iun 12, 16:49:43, john gennard wrote: I have eliminated problems with the mouse. Also, I've used a small partition on the drive and installed Win XP and this works perfectly thus eliminating problems with the graphic card. Would it be feasible for you to try the kernel and Xorg from backports? I presume so. I've read the backports web page and it seems simple enough to use. For single packages it is very easy, just apt-get install -t squeeze-backportspackage but I don't know exactly which package to pull for Xorg. I would try xserver-xorg-video-radeon and hope it will pull anything else needed with it ;) Hm! I've tried that, but it seems I shall have to upgrade my kernel. The error message is:- This version of xserver-xorg-video-nouveau is linked against a newer libdrm-nouveau which breaks the ABI and is not compatible with kernel = 2.6.33. You need to upgrade the kernel to 2.6.34 -rcl or newer. Sven Joachim Do you mean recompiling the kernel? No, there is a 3.2 kernel on backports (it has bpo in it's name). Regards, John. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fe890d4.4080...@btinternet.com
Re: unstable web browsers
On 12/06/12 16:45, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Ma, 12 iun 12, 11:57:13, Andrei POPESCU wrote: If you still can't get it to work send the file to me directly and I'll quote the relevant parts (or upload it all to the paste). John sent it to me directly, but I can't spot anything wrong so I uploaded it to the paste: http://paste.debian.net/174133/ Kind regards, Andrei I have still not been able to get rid of this problem, and think I should try to reconfigure Xorg. As I understand, the commandline as changed between Debian 5.0 and 6.05 - could some please let me know the correct reconfigure instruction for 6.05. I have eliminated problems with the mouse. Also, I've used a small partition on the drive and installed Win XP and this works perfectly thus eliminating problems with the graphic card. John. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fe73717.9000...@btinternet.com
Re: unstable web browsers
On Du, 24 iun 12, 16:49:43, john gennard wrote: I have eliminated problems with the mouse. Also, I've used a small partition on the drive and installed Win XP and this works perfectly thus eliminating problems with the graphic card. Would it be feasible for you to try the kernel and Xorg from backports? Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: unstable web browsers
On 11/06/12 18:35, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2012-06-11 at 17:05 +0100, john gennard wrote: On 11/06/12 16:23, Andrei POPESCU wrote: Hmm, I would have expected at least a mention of loading the firmware. Could you please upload your dmesg to paste.debian.net? Not sure what you want me to do, I'm attaching 'dmesg' here. Hope that's OK. No its not, can't get the attachment to be sent. What do I do now, please. At http://paste.debian.net/ you can upload what you can't attach to your email. You don't need to subscribe. For example: http://paste.debian.net/173969/ [1] Hth, Ralf [1] It looks like this and there are some options: Posting 173969 from Ralf posted at 2012-06-11 19:31:05 expires: 2012-06-14 19:31:05 1 http://paste.debian.net/ 2 3 Test ;) Show as text | Download | Without linenumbers | Paste new | Paste as new Information about your entry To link to your entry use: paste.debian.net/173969 To download your entry use: paste.debian.net/download/173969 To see your entry as plain text use: paste.debian.net/plain/173969 To delete your entry use: paste.debian.net/delete/142ff0f39bbb1a3e13804cbb71742c119d74979e I'm having trouble using the above link. The attempts all finish with the following error in Icedove:- 'problem occurred while loading the URL' 'url cannot be shown' Why is this? John. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fd6fbf0.8000...@btinternet.com
Re: unstable web browsers
On Ma, 12 iun 12, 09:21:04, john gennard wrote: I'm having trouble using the above link. You shouldn't try to use Ralf's links, but generate your own: 1. go to http://paste.debian.net 2. copy-paste the output in the big box (or browse for the file containing the text[1]) 3. click on Send [1] You can generate a file with dmesg output like this: dmesg dmesg.txt If you still can't get it to work send the file to me directly and I'll quote the relevant parts (or upload it all to the paste). Hope this helps, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: unstable web browsers
On Tue, 2012-06-12 at 09:21 +0100, john gennard wrote: On 11/06/12 18:35, Ralf Mardorf wrote: http://paste.debian.net/ I'm having trouble using the above link. The attempts all finish with the following error in Icedove:- 'problem occurred while loading the URL' 'url cannot be shown' Why is this? It's still ok here? Icedove? A typo? Perhaps you need to enable or disable something like Java or an addon that doesn't allow access. - Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1339491471.1262.8.camel@localhost.localdomain
Re: unstable web browsers
On Ma, 12 iun 12, 11:57:13, Andrei POPESCU wrote: If you still can't get it to work send the file to me directly and I'll quote the relevant parts (or upload it all to the paste). John sent it to me directly, but I can't spot anything wrong so I uploaded it to the paste: http://paste.debian.net/174133/ Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: unstable web browsers
On 10/06/12 18:07, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 10 iun 12, 17:13:10, john gennard wrote: Any suggestions, but remember I'm getting towards the gaga stage, so in simple English please. Please (in this order): - make sure you have firmware-linux-nonfree installed 'firmware-linux-nonfree' was not installed. I have now done so, but it does not seem to make any difference. - attach the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log Attached - but it is rather a large file.Andrei Regards, John. X.Org X Server 1.7.7 Release Date: 2010-05-04 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: Linux 3.0.0-1-amd64 x86_64 Debian Current Operating System: Linux debian 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Sun May 6 04:00:17 UTC 2012 x86_64 Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-amd64 root=UUID=264e65e4-fada-4767-9093-593417ab95f7 ro quiet Build Date: 29 October 2011 06:58:14PM xorg-server 2:1.7.7-14 (Julien Cristau jcris...@debian.org) Current version of pixman: 0.16.4 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Mon Jun 11 08:44:42 2012 (==) Using system config directory /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d (==) No Layout section. Using the first Screen section. (==) No screen section available. Using defaults. (**) |--Screen Default Screen Section (0) (**) | |--Monitor default monitor (==) No monitor specified for screen Default Screen Section. Using a default monitor configuration. (==) Automatically adding devices (==) Automatically enabling devices (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (==) FontPath set to: /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc, /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled, /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled, /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1, /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi, /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi, /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType, built-ins (==) ModulePath set to /usr/lib/xorg/modules (II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input devices. If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable AutoAddDevices. (II) Loader magic: 0x7c8a40 (II) Module ABI versions: X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 X.Org Video Driver: 6.0 X.Org XInput driver : 7.0 X.Org Server Extension : 2.0 (++) using VT number 7 (--) PCI:*(0:1:0:0) 1002:68f9:: ATI Technologies Inc Cedar PRO [Radeon HD 5450] rev 0, Mem @ 0xc000/268435456, 0xfe62/131072, I/O @ 0xe000/256, BIOS @ 0x/131072 (II) Open ACPI successful (/var/run/acpid.socket) (II) LoadModule: extmod (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libextmod.so (II) Module extmod: vendor=X.Org Foundation compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension SELinux (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA (II) Loading extension DPMS (II) Loading extension XVideo (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation (II) Loading extension X-Resource (II) LoadModule: dbe (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdbe.so (II) Module dbe: vendor=X.Org Foundation compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER (II) LoadModule: glx (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so (II) Module glx: vendor=X.Org Foundation compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (==) AIGLX enabled (II) Loading extension GLX (II) LoadModule: record (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/librecord.so (II) Module record: vendor=X.Org Foundation compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.13.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension RECORD (II) LoadModule: dri (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri.so (II) Module dri: vendor=X.Org Foundation compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI (II) LoadModule: dri2 (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri2.so (II) Module dri2: vendor=X.Org Foundation compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.1.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension DRI2 (==) Matched ati as autoconfigured driver 0 (==) Matched vesa as autoconfigured driver 1 (==) Matched fbdev as autoconfigured driver 2 (==) Assigned the driver to the xf86ConfigLayout (II) LoadModule: ati (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/ati_drv.so (II) Module ati: vendor=X.Org Foundation compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 6.13.1 Module class: X.Org Video
Re: unstable web browsers
On Lu, 11 iun 12, 09:17:25, john gennard wrote:
'firmware-linux-nonfree' was not installed. I have now done so,
but it does not seem to make any difference.
Forgot to mention, but did you restart your computer after doing so?
- attach the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log
Attached - but it is rather a large file.
Yes, but it's much easier to comment on (portions of) it ;)
(WW) RADEON(0): Direct rendering disabled
This may be your problem, but it might be due to missing firmware. If
you did reboot after installing firmware-linux-nonfree and that message
is still present ('grep disabled /var/log/Xorg.0.log') then the problem
might be at a lower level. The following command may provide more info
dmesg | grep -i '\(firmware\|radeon\|kms\)'
Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: unstable web browsers
On 11/06/12 12:35, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Lu, 11 iun 12, 09:17:25, john gennard wrote:
'firmware-linux-nonfree' was not installed. I have now done so,
but it does not seem to make any difference.
Forgot to mention, but did you restart your computer after doing so?
Yes, I did.
- attach the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log
Attached - but it is rather a large file.
Yes, but it's much easier to comment on (portions of) it ;)
(WW) RADEON(0): Direct rendering disabled
This may be your problem, but it might be due to missing firmware. If
you did reboot after installing firmware-linux-nonfree and that message
is still present ('grep disabled /var/log/Xorg.0.log') then the problem
might be at a lower level. The following command may provide more info
dmesg | grep -i '\(firmware\|radeon\|kms\)'
root@debian:/# grep disabled /var/log/Xorg.0.log
(II) RADEON(0): KMS Color Tiling: disabled
(II) RADEON(0): GPU accel disabled or not working, using shadowfb for KMS
(==) RADEON(0): Backing store disabled
(WW) RADEON(0): Direct rendering disabled
(II) RADEON(0): Acceleration disabled
(II) RADEON(0): RandR 1.2 enabled, ignore the following RandR disabled
message.
(--) RandR disabled
root@debian:/# dmesg | grep -i '\(firmware\|radeon\|kms\)'
[5.415560] [drm] radeon kernel modesetting enabled.
[5.415665] radeon :01:00.0: PCI INT A - GSI 16 (level, low) -
IRQ 16
[5.415669] radeon :01:00.0: setting latency timer to 64
[5.416870] [drm] radeon: Initializing kernel modesetting.
[5.417168] [drm] radeon: 256M of VRAM memory ready
[5.417169] [drm] radeon: 512M of GTT memory ready.
[5.418370] [drm] Radeon Display Connectors
[5.573365] fb0: radeondrmfb frame buffer device
[5.573370] [drm] Initialized radeon 2.0.0 20080528 for :01:00.0
on minor 0
Regards,
John.
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Re: unstable web browsers
On Lu, 11 iun 12, 14:42:24, john gennard wrote: root@debian:/# dmesg | grep -i '\(firmware\|radeon\|kms\)' [5.415560] [drm] radeon kernel modesetting enabled. [5.415665] radeon :01:00.0: PCI INT A - GSI 16 (level, low) - IRQ 16 [5.415669] radeon :01:00.0: setting latency timer to 64 [5.416870] [drm] radeon: Initializing kernel modesetting. [5.417168] [drm] radeon: 256M of VRAM memory ready [5.417169] [drm] radeon: 512M of GTT memory ready. [5.418370] [drm] Radeon Display Connectors [5.573365] fb0: radeondrmfb frame buffer device [5.573370] [drm] Initialized radeon 2.0.0 20080528 for :01:00.0 on minor 0 Hmm, I would have expected at least a mention of loading the firmware. Could you please upload your dmesg to paste.debian.net? Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: unstable web browsers
On 11/06/12 16:23, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Lu, 11 iun 12, 14:42:24, john gennard wrote: root@debian:/# dmesg | grep -i '\(firmware\|radeon\|kms\)' [5.415560] [drm] radeon kernel modesetting enabled. [5.415665] radeon :01:00.0: PCI INT A - GSI 16 (level, low) - IRQ 16 [5.415669] radeon :01:00.0: setting latency timer to 64 [5.416870] [drm] radeon: Initializing kernel modesetting. [5.417168] [drm] radeon: 256M of VRAM memory ready [5.417169] [drm] radeon: 512M of GTT memory ready. [5.418370] [drm] Radeon Display Connectors [5.573365] fb0: radeondrmfb frame buffer device [5.573370] [drm] Initialized radeon 2.0.0 20080528 for :01:00.0 on minor 0 Hmm, I would have expected at least a mention of loading the firmware. Could you please upload your dmesg to paste.debian.net? Not sure what you want me to do, I'm attaching 'dmesg' here. Hope that's OK. No its not, can't get the attachment to be sent. What do I do now, please. Regards, John. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fd6172e.7090...@btinternet.com
Re: unstable web browsers
On Mon, 2012-06-11 at 17:05 +0100, john gennard wrote: On 11/06/12 16:23, Andrei POPESCU wrote: Hmm, I would have expected at least a mention of loading the firmware. Could you please upload your dmesg to paste.debian.net? Not sure what you want me to do, I'm attaching 'dmesg' here. Hope that's OK. No its not, can't get the attachment to be sent. What do I do now, please. At http://paste.debian.net/ you can upload what you can't attach to your email. You don't need to subscribe. For example: http://paste.debian.net/173969/ [1] Hth, Ralf [1] It looks like this and there are some options: Posting 173969 from Ralf posted at 2012-06-11 19:31:05 expires: 2012-06-14 19:31:05 1 http://paste.debian.net/ 2 3 Test ;) Show as text | Download | Without linenumbers | Paste new | Paste as new Information about your entry To link to your entry use: paste.debian.net/173969 To download your entry use: paste.debian.net/download/173969 To see your entry as plain text use: paste.debian.net/plain/173969 To delete your entry use: paste.debian.net/delete/142ff0f39bbb1a3e13804cbb71742c119d74979e -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1339436143.2322.6.camel@precise
Re: unstable web browsers
On Du, 10 iun 12, 17:13:10, john gennard wrote: Any suggestions, but remember I'm getting towards the gaga stage, so in simple English please. Please (in this order): - make sure you have firmware-linux-nonfree installed - attach the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
