Re: Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-31 Thread Richmond
"Juan R.D. Silva"  writes:

> Hi folks,
>
> I use Skype installed from Debian official repo.  A couple of days ago
> it refused to update reporting "server timed out". After looking into
> it, I found that MS removed Skype.deb package from their server and
> basically forces everyone to use Snap package instead.
>
> Skype is the only app I would need Snap for on my
> system. Unfortunately, I still need Skype and I do not see any
> alternative but to concede to MS (and Ubuntu?) brute coercion.
>
> Any body installed Snap on their Debian system? Any problems with that
> thing? Any suggestions to use Skype otherwise?
>
> Thanks

You can use skype from the web page, web.skype.com, without installing
it. Maybe that would do?



Re: Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-30 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 10:53 PM George at Clug  wrote:
>
>  [...]
>
> I am guessing you have tried 'Skype for Web' ?  How did you find it? If it 
> does not suite your purposes, I would like to know why, as 'Skype for Web' 
> might be a solution for myself if it works enough.
>
> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/skype/skype-for-web-preview-your-most-asked-questions-9c4836e4-5cdb-4261-ae46-d919b974af8a
> Skype for Web (Preview) - your most asked questions
>
> I want to try the Skype for Web (Preview) experience. How do I do that?
> Please go to https://preview.web.skype.com and sign into Skype.

Skype for Web looks like it could be a good alternative for OP. It has
been around since 2019. Cf.,
<https://www.skype.com/en/blogs/2019-03-skype-online/>.

Both the Linux app from the *.deb and the browser-based app (and other
package formats, like MSI) likely use the web security model, so you
are f**k'd with either one. There's probably no benefit to using one
over the other. Neither can provide a secure channel, and both will
happily allow interception of your calls.

Skype also points people to their community for questions:
<http://go.skype.com/skype.community>. Maybe someone in the community
can answer the OP's questions, like what it's like to use the snap
version of the app.

Jeff



Re: Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-30 Thread David Wright
On Fri 31 May 2024 at 08:48:33 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote:
> On 31/5/24 08:04, David Wright wrote:
> > On Fri 31 May 2024 at 07:57:22 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote:
> > > On 31/5/24 07:49, Keith Bainbridge wrote:
> > > > wget https://repo.skype.com/latest/skypeforlinux-64.deb
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Trying to access that URL with SeaMonkey, to view the directory
> > > listing (to find version numbers), returned the following;
> > > 
> > > "
> > > An error occurred while processing your request.
> > > 
> > > Reference #97.6edf56b8.1717113285.e8ac5eb
> > > 
> > > https://errors.edgesuite.net/97.6edf56b8.1717113285.e8ac5eb
> > > "
> > 
> > It took a few seconds while it thought about it (I thought it might
> > time out), but it worked here (KS):
> > 
> >$ wget https://repo.skype.com/latest/skypeforlinux-64.deb
> >--2024-05-30 18:59:55--  
> > https://repo.skype.com/latest/skypeforlinux-64.deb
> >Resolving repo.skype.com (repo.skype.com)... 23.32.128.139, 
> > 2001:578:2c:fe8b::1263, 2001:578:2c:fe99::1263
> >Connecting to repo.skype.com (repo.skype.com)|23.32.128.139|:443... 
> > connected.
> >HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
> >Length: 122062452 (116M) [application/x-debian-package]
> >Saving to: ‘skypeforlinux-64.deb’
> >skypeforlinux-64.deb
> > 100%[=>] 116.41M  9.19MB/sin 12s
> >2024-05-30 19:00:27 (9.34 MB/s) - ‘skypeforlinux-64.deb’ saved 
> > [122062452/122062452]
> >$
> 
> If you install it, please tell me what is the version number.
> 
> Thank you in anticipation.

I haven't, but DEBIAN/control is attached, and there are
several occurrences of v8 in the main binary.

Cheers,
David.
Package: skypeforlinux
Version: 8.109.0.209
Architecture: amd64
Maintainer: Skype Technologies S.A. 
Installed-Size: 312110
Depends: libasound2 (>= 1.0.16), libatk-bridge2.0-0 (>= 2.5.3), libatk1.0-0 (>= 
2.2.0), libatspi2.0-0 (>= 2.9.90), libc6 (>= 2.17), libcairo2 (>= 1.6.0), 
libdrm2 (>= 2.4.38), libexpat1 (>= 2.0.1), libgbm1 (>= 17.1.0~rc2), libgcc1 (>= 
1:3.0), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.39.4), libgtk-3-0 (>= 3.9.10), libnspr4 (>= 
2:4.9-2~), libnss3 (>= 2:3.22), libpango-1.0-0 (>= 1.14.0), libsecret-1-0 (>= 
0.18), libx11-6 (>= 2:1.4.99.1), libxcb1 (>= 1.9.2), libxcomposite1 (>= 
1:0.3-1), libxdamage1 (>= 1:1.1), libxext6, libxfixes3, libxkbcommon0 (>= 
0.5.0), libxrandr2, gnome-keyring, apt-transport-https, libfontconfig1 (>= 
2.11.0), libdbus-1-3 (>= 1.6.18), libstdc++6 (>= 4.8.1), libatomic1
Section: non-free/net
Priority: extra
Homepage: https://www.skype.com
Description: Skype keeps the world talking, for free.
 Skype keeps you together. Call, message and share with others.
  * It's free to download and join.
  * Call, instant message and send photos and documents to anyone else on Skype.
  * Easily text message anywhere in the world.
  * Get your friends together on a group call.
 And that's just the start...


Re: Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-30 Thread Bret Busby

On 31/5/24 08:04, David Wright wrote:

On Fri 31 May 2024 at 07:57:22 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote:

On 31/5/24 07:49, Keith Bainbridge wrote:

wget https://repo.skype.com/latest/skypeforlinux-64.deb



Trying to access that URL with SeaMonkey, to view the directory
listing (to find version numbers), returned the following;

"
An error occurred while processing your request.

Reference #97.6edf56b8.1717113285.e8ac5eb

https://errors.edgesuite.net/97.6edf56b8.1717113285.e8ac5eb
"


It took a few seconds while it thought about it (I thought it might
time out), but it worked here (KS):

   $ wget https://repo.skype.com/latest/skypeforlinux-64.deb
   --2024-05-30 18:59:55--  https://repo.skype.com/latest/skypeforlinux-64.deb
   Resolving repo.skype.com (repo.skype.com)... 23.32.128.139, 
2001:578:2c:fe8b::1263, 2001:578:2c:fe99::1263
   Connecting to repo.skype.com (repo.skype.com)|23.32.128.139|:443... 
connected.
   HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
   Length: 122062452 (116M) [application/x-debian-package]
   Saving to: ‘skypeforlinux-64.deb’
   
   skypeforlinux-64.deb100%[=>] 116.41M  9.19MB/sin 12s
   
   2024-05-30 19:00:27 (9.34 MB/s) - ‘skypeforlinux-64.deb’ saved [122062452/122062452]
   
   $


Cheers,
David.

Hello.

If you install it, please tell me what is the version number.

Thank you in anticipation.


Bret Busby
Armadale
Western Australia
(UTC+0800)
.



Re: Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-30 Thread Bret Busby

On 31/5/24 07:33, Dan Ritter wrote:





Does it work through a browser?

Zoom works through a browser. Google Meet works through a
browser. MS Teams works through a browser. And Jitsi works
through a browser.

-dsr-


Using each of those, apparently, comes with its own varying degree of risk.

Zoom and google might be okay, if you want your calls content 
intercepted and sold, and, used for impersonation, etc.


jitsi has been regarded as  the relatively safest.

The problems of zoom, etc ("we are recording you through your bedroom 
window, so we can use whatever amuses us"), has previously been 
discussed on this list, and, at The Register, with the Free Software 
Foundation telling its people to not uses zoom, and, recommending and 
adopting jitsi, for such communications.


Search list archive for zoom...

One great disadvantage, as far as I am aware, with skype, is that it has 
been available only for limited platforms; I have siblings who use Mac 
systems, for which, skype does not work. They use zoom for video calls, 
as it is cross-platform. They do not have the ICT awareness, to be aware 
of problems with zoom, in terms of privacy and security breaches by the 
provider.


A problem is that some people and institutions, are fixed in their ways, 
and mandate skype or zoom, or some other similarly disreputable software.



Bret Busby
Armadale
Western Australia
(UTC+0800)
.



Re: Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-30 Thread David Wright
On Fri 31 May 2024 at 07:57:22 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote:
> On 31/5/24 07:49, Keith Bainbridge wrote:
> > wget https://repo.skype.com/latest/skypeforlinux-64.deb
> > 
> 
> Trying to access that URL with SeaMonkey, to view the directory
> listing (to find version numbers), returned the following;
> 
> "
> An error occurred while processing your request.
> 
> Reference #97.6edf56b8.1717113285.e8ac5eb
> 
> https://errors.edgesuite.net/97.6edf56b8.1717113285.e8ac5eb
> "

It took a few seconds while it thought about it (I thought it might
time out), but it worked here (KS):

  $ wget https://repo.skype.com/latest/skypeforlinux-64.deb
  --2024-05-30 18:59:55--  https://repo.skype.com/latest/skypeforlinux-64.deb
  Resolving repo.skype.com (repo.skype.com)... 23.32.128.139, 
2001:578:2c:fe8b::1263, 2001:578:2c:fe99::1263
  Connecting to repo.skype.com (repo.skype.com)|23.32.128.139|:443... connected.
  HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
  Length: 122062452 (116M) [application/x-debian-package]
  Saving to: ‘skypeforlinux-64.deb’
  
  skypeforlinux-64.deb100%[=>] 
116.41M  9.19MB/sin 12s 
  
  2024-05-30 19:00:27 (9.34 MB/s) - ‘skypeforlinux-64.deb’ saved 
[122062452/122062452]
  
  $ 

Cheers,
David.



Re: Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-30 Thread fjd

On Fri, 31 May 2024, Bret Busby wrote:


What version of skype do you have installed?

I have skypeforlinux 8.109.0.209 installed on a Linux Mint system.

But, I have not used skype, now, for about 11 years.

Regarding snap, with your reference to Ubuntu Linux, the imposition of snap 
was one of the reasons to leave Ubuntu Linux.


I haven't (yet) experienced the nastiness. Want to note there is still 
a web version.


fjd


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Verbum sat sapienti.



Re: Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-30 Thread Xiyue Deng
Hi Juan,

"Juan R.D. Silva"  writes:

> Hi folks,
>
> I use Skype installed from Debian official repo.  A couple of days ago
> it refused to update reporting "server timed out". After looking into
> it, I found that MS removed Skype.deb package from their server and
> basically forces everyone to use Snap package instead.
>
> Skype is the only app I would need Snap for on my
> system. Unfortunately, I still need Skype and I do not see any
> alternative but to concede to MS (and Ubuntu?) brute coercion.
>
> Any body installed Snap on their Debian system? Any problems with that
> thing? Any suggestions to use Skype otherwise?
>
> Thanks
>

According to Snap docs[1], Snap has been available on Debian since
Stretch (9).  It looks like Skype page on snapcraft has instructions on
how to install it on Debian[2].

Skype also seems to be available on Flatpak[3], which has the same
version as on Snap (8.119.0.201), so you can also install it there if
you prefer Flatpak over Snap.

I haven't installed it so I cannot tell how well it works.  But I think
you can report to Microsoft should there be any issues.

[1] https://snapcraft.io/docs/installing-snap-on-debian
[2] https://snapcraft.io/install/skype/debian
[3] https://flathub.org/apps/com.skype.Client

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Re: Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-30 Thread Bret Busby

On 31/5/24 07:49, Keith Bainbridge wrote:










Good morning Juan

Three sites suggest:

wget https://repo.skype.com/latest/skypeforlinux-64.deb



Trying to access that URL with SeaMonkey, to view the directory listing 
(to find version numbers), returned the following;


"
An error occurred while processing your request.

Reference #97.6edf56b8.1717113285.e8ac5eb

https://errors.edgesuite.net/97.6edf56b8.1717113285.e8ac5eb
"


--

Bret Busby
Armadale
Western Australia
(UTC+0800)
.



Re: Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-30 Thread Bret Busby

On 31/5/24 06:58, Juan R.D. Silva wrote:

Hi folks,

I use Skype installed from Debian official repo.  A couple of days ago 
it refused to update reporting "server timed out". After looking into 
it, I found that MS removed Skype.deb package from their server and 
basically forces everyone to use Snap package instead.


Skype is the only app I would need Snap for on my system. Unfortunately, 
I still need Skype and I do not see any alternative but to concede to MS 
(and Ubuntu?) brute coercion.


Any body installed Snap on their Debian system? Any problems with that 
thing? Any suggestions to use Skype otherwise?


Thanks


What version of skype do you have installed?

I have skypeforlinux 8.109.0.209 installed on a Linux Mint system.

But, I have not used skype, now, for about 11 years.

Regarding snap, with your reference to Ubuntu Linux, the imposition of 
snap was one of the reasons to leave Ubuntu Linux. snap is bloat, and 
leads to nastiness, like automatic updating of a system, so that, for 
example, if you would be in the middle of an important skype call, or, 
in the middle of another important task, expect to have it all shutdown 
- Ubuntu has gone the MS way (with its snap cr*p), and, starts doing a 
system update and reboot; so, if you really want any control that you 
have over your system, and, confidence in using your system, taken away 
from you then, infect it with snap.



Bret Busby
Armadale
Western Australia
(UTC+0800)
.



Re: Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-30 Thread Dan Ritter
Juan R.D. Silva wrote: 
> I use Skype installed from Debian official repo.  A couple of days ago it
> refused to update reporting "server timed out". After looking into it, I
> found that MS removed Skype.deb package from their server and basically
> forces everyone to use Snap package instead.

I'm pretty sure that if MS removed the package, it was not a
Debian official repo.

> Skype is the only app I would need Snap for on my system. Unfortunately, I
> still need Skype and I do not see any alternative but to concede to MS (and
> Ubuntu?) brute coercion.
> 
> Any body installed Snap on their Debian system? Any problems with that
> thing? Any suggestions to use Skype otherwise?

Does it work through a browser?

Zoom works through a browser. Google Meet works through a
browser. MS Teams works through a browser. And Jitsi works
through a browser.

-dsr-



Re: Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-30 Thread Keith Bainbridge



On 31/05/2024 9:29 am, Juan R.D. Silva wrote:

Hey Timothy, have you really read my post?

1. I wrote it clearly "I still need Skype". (And yes, I have my reasons 
for it, even if it surprises you.)
2. And how have you arrived to "Ubuntu" subject? I'm Debian user. Again 
read to post you replied to.
3. I really don't care what you personally use and if you are happy with 
it or not. I need a Skype user suggestion about a particular situation. 
You do not use Skype and have no clue to be in help. Then just skip off.


Boy, these thread hijacking boys are annoying.

Thanks


On 2024-05-30 7:06 p.m., Timothy M Butterworth wrote:



On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 6:59 PM Juan R.D. Silva 
mailto:juan.r.d.si...@gmail.com>> wrote:


    Hi folks,

    I use Skype installed from Debian official repo.  A couple of days 
ago

    it refused to update reporting "server timed out". After looking into
    it, I found that MS removed Skype.deb package from their server and
    basically forces everyone to use Snap package instead.

    Skype is the only app I would need Snap for on my system.
    Unfortunately,
    I still need Skype and I do not see any alternative but to concede
    to MS
    (and Ubuntu?) brute coercion.


To hell with Ubuntu, I use Google Voice, Chat and Meet. All three are 
free and work great just using the browser.


    Any body installed Snap on their Debian system? Any problems with 
that

    thing? Any suggestions to use Skype otherwise?

    Thanks



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Good morning Juan

Three sites suggest:

wget https://repo.skype.com/latest/skypeforlinux-64.deb

Some of them are older, but 1 refers to bookworm.

So maybe all isn't lost


All the best


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Re: Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-30 Thread George at Clug
Juan,


Apologies I do not have an answer for you.


It would seem you love Snaps about as much as I do. I watch videos on
YouTube of people complaining about APT, or Synaptic, but I disagree
with them, I really like those programs and the Debian packaging
system. They are very reliable, just like Debian.



I too have a Skype account, but my friends have moved to other
platforms, so I only log in once or twice a year to see if anyone
messaged me. I do this via a Windows Virtual Machine using KVM. I only
use this solution for chat, not conferencing. And now with Windows 10
coming to and end, I guess my use of Skype will end too. My hardware
will not run Windows 11.



I am guessing you have tried 'Skype for Web' ?  How did you find it?
If it does not suite your purposes, I would like to know why, as
'Skype for Web' might be a solution for myself if it works enough.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/skype/skype-for-web-preview-your-most-asked-questions-9c4836e4-5cdb-4261-ae46-d919b974af8a
Skype for Web (Preview) - your most asked questions

I want to try the Skype for Web (Preview) experience. How do I do
that?
Please go to https://preview.web.skype.com and sign into Skype. 



https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=snap
https://snapcraft.io/docs/installing-snap-on-debian


George.








On Friday, 31-05-2024 at 08:58 Juan R.D. Silva wrote:


Hi folks,

I use Skype installed from Debian official repo.  A couple of days
ago 
it refused to update reporting "server timed out". After looking into 
it, I found that MS removed Skype.deb package from their server and 
basically forces everyone to use Snap package instead.

Skype is the only app I would need Snap for on my system.
Unfortunately, 
I still need Skype and I do not see any alternative but to concede to
MS 
(and Ubuntu?) brute coercion.

Any body installed Snap on their Debian system? Any problems with that

thing? Any suggestions to use Skype otherwise?

Thanks


Re: Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-30 Thread Juan R.D. Silva

Hey Timothy, have you really read my post?

1. I wrote it clearly "I still need Skype". (And yes, I have my reasons 
for it, even if it surprises you.)
2. And how have you arrived to "Ubuntu" subject? I'm Debian user. Again 
read to post you replied to.
3. I really don't care what you personally use and if you are happy with 
it or not. I need a Skype user suggestion about a particular situation. 
You do not use Skype and have no clue to be in help. Then just skip off.


Boy, these thread hijacking boys are annoying.

Thanks


On 2024-05-30 7:06 p.m., Timothy M Butterworth wrote:



On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 6:59 PM Juan R.D. Silva 
mailto:juan.r.d.si...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi folks,

I use Skype installed from Debian official repo.  A couple of days ago
it refused to update reporting "server timed out". After looking into
it, I found that MS removed Skype.deb package from their server and
basically forces everyone to use Snap package instead.

Skype is the only app I would need Snap for on my system.
Unfortunately,
I still need Skype and I do not see any alternative but to concede
to MS
(and Ubuntu?) brute coercion.


To hell with Ubuntu, I use Google Voice, Chat and Meet. All three are 
free and work great just using the browser.


Any body installed Snap on their Debian system? Any problems with that
    thing? Any suggestions to use Skype otherwise?

Thanks



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Re: Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-30 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 6:59 PM Juan R.D. Silva 
wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> I use Skype installed from Debian official repo.  A couple of days ago
> it refused to update reporting "server timed out". After looking into
> it, I found that MS removed Skype.deb package from their server and
> basically forces everyone to use Snap package instead.
>
> Skype is the only app I would need Snap for on my system. Unfortunately,
> I still need Skype and I do not see any alternative but to concede to MS
> (and Ubuntu?) brute coercion.
>

To hell with Ubuntu, I use Google Voice, Chat and Meet. All three are free
and work great just using the browser.


> Any body installed Snap on their Debian system? Any problems with that
> thing? Any suggestions to use Skype otherwise?
>
> Thanks
>
>

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Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-30 Thread Juan R.D. Silva

Hi folks,

I use Skype installed from Debian official repo.  A couple of days ago 
it refused to update reporting "server timed out". After looking into 
it, I found that MS removed Skype.deb package from their server and 
basically forces everyone to use Snap package instead.


Skype is the only app I would need Snap for on my system. Unfortunately, 
I still need Skype and I do not see any alternative but to concede to MS 
(and Ubuntu?) brute coercion.


Any body installed Snap on their Debian system? Any problems with that 
thing? Any suggestions to use Skype otherwise?


Thanks



Re: problems with skype

2019-12-21 Thread Thomas Amm
On Tue, 2019-12-17 at 15:31 +, Emanuele Latini wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I'm not sure that s the right place where to post this problem, if not
> please address me somewhere else
> 
> My problem is the following During and after skype video call it's
> like
> the keyboad gets crazy, if you push a key once it's like you never
> stopped pushing it and every app get stuck. There s only one solution,
> reboot
> 
> i didn t t find any report on that on the web..like I m the only one
> experiencing this bug
>  
> my distro is debian 10 buster
> 

It might help running 'xinput list' and disable the input device which
assigns the web cam's button as a keyoard (or as slave to an existing
kb). Depending on your usage/hardware there might be another useless
uinput device in the list which causes the repeat keys.

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Re: problems with skype

2019-12-21 Thread Thomas Amm
On Tue, 2019-12-17 at 15:31 +, Emanuele Latini wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I'm not sure that s the right place where to post this problem, if not
> please address me somewhere else
> 
> My problem is the following During and after skype video call it's
> like
> the keyboad gets crazy, if you push a key once it's like you never
> stopped pushing it and every app get stuck. There s only one solution,
> reboot
> 
> i didn t t find any report on that on the web..like I m the only one
> experiencing this bug
>  
> my distro is debian 10 buster
> 

It might help running 'xinput list' and disable the input device which
assigns the web cam's button as a keyoard (or as slave to an existing
kb). Depending on your usage/hardware there might be another useless
uinput device in the list which causes the repeat keys.





Re: problems with skype

2019-12-17 Thread deloptes
Emanuele Latini wrote:

> My problem is the following During and after skype video call it's like
> the keyboad gets crazy, if you push a key once it's like you never
> stopped pushing it and every app get stuck. There s only one solution,
> reboot

In my opnion skype uses your usb camera correct? and this may glitch with
the usb keyboard you use - especially if it is a cheap one.

I see this from time to time with a cheap KVM switch. If you can try a
better keyboard.





problems with skype

2019-12-17 Thread Emanuele Latini
Hi

I'm not sure that s the right place where to post this problem, if not
please address me somewhere else

My problem is the following During and after skype video call it's like
the keyboad gets crazy, if you push a key once it's like you never
stopped pushing it and every app get stuck. There s only one solution,
reboot

i didn t t find any report on that on the web..like I m the only one
experiencing this bug
 
my distro is debian 10 buster



Apparmor and skype.

2019-02-08 Thread G
Hi!
Im trying to setup apparmor on my computer.

Im trying to confine firefox-esr to just the necessary staff.
Config files and Download, Desktop directory.

This is my config file and i cant understand why it doesn't work. It
allows me to save everywhere i want.

I attach my apparmor profile


Thanks in Advance!!

# Last Modified: Fri Feb  8 16:08:56 2019
#include 

/usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr flags=(complain) {
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Re: soucis avec skype for linux

2018-11-17 Thread Bernard Schoenacker



- Mail original -
> De: "JC.EtiembleG" 
> À: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org
> Envoyé: Samedi 17 Novembre 2018 16:21:04
> Objet: Re: soucis avec skype for linux
> 
> Le 17/11/2018 à 14:23, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit :
> 
> 
> c'est toujours en développement ;)
> Faut aller sur
> https://repo.skype.com/deb/pool/main/s/skypeforlinux/
> pour avoir les dernières versions
> 
bonjour,

bingo, ça refonctionne très bien

merci beaucoup

slt
bernard



Re: soucis avec skype for linux

2018-11-17 Thread Jean Bernon


> > Le 17/11/2018 à 14:23, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit :
> >
> >> j'ai installé skype pour linux et je n'arrive pas à
> >> le faire fonctionner du fait que la fenêtre ne se
> >> rafraichis pas correctement, en bref j'ai la taille
> >> de la fenêtre mais l'intérieur contient le fond
> >> de l'écran ...
> > >j'ai essayé avec 2 versions et j'ai le même effet ...

J'utilise :
-Linux pc-jean-debian 4.9.0-8-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.130-2 (2018-10-27) x86_64 
GNU/Linux
-Version de Skype 8.34.0.78
Ça marche très bien



Re: soucis avec skype for linux

2018-11-17 Thread aishen

https://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/skypeforlinux

J'ai installé celui là depuis longtemps il marche très bien

Le 17/11/2018 à 16:21, JC.EtiembleG a écrit :

Le 17/11/2018 à 14:23, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit :


j'ai installé skype pour linux et je n'arrive pas à
le faire fonctionner du fait que la fenêtre ne se
rafraichis pas correctement, en bref j'ai la taille
de la fenêtre mais l'intérieur contient le fond
de l'écran ...

>j'ai essayé avec 2 versions et j'ai le même effet ...

c'est toujours en développement ;)
Faut aller sur
https://repo.skype.com/deb/pool/main/s/skypeforlinux/
pour avoir les dernières versions






Re: soucis avec skype for linux

2018-11-17 Thread JC.EtiembleG

Le 17/11/2018 à 14:23, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit :


j'ai installé skype pour linux et je n'arrive pas à
le faire fonctionner du fait que la fenêtre ne se
rafraichis pas correctement, en bref j'ai la taille
de la fenêtre mais l'intérieur contient le fond
de l'écran ...

>j'ai essayé avec 2 versions et j'ai le même effet ...

c'est toujours en développement ;)
Faut aller sur
https://repo.skype.com/deb/pool/main/s/skypeforlinux/
pour avoir les dernières versions


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Re: soucis avec skype for linux

2018-11-17 Thread Gaëtan Perrier
Le samedi 17 novembre 2018 à 14:23 +0100, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit :
> bonjour,
> 
> j'ai installé skype pour linux et je n'arrive pas à 
> le faire fonctionner du fait que la fenêtre ne se
> rafraichis pas correctement, en bref j'ai la taille 
> de la fenêtre mais l'intérieur contient le fond 
> de l'écran ...
> 
> j'ai essayé avec 2 versions et j'ai le même effet ...
> 
> comment retrouver le bon fonctionnement ?
> 
> désolé, mais ça m'est imposé d'utiliser skype, car
> avec discord je n'ai pas de problème
> 
> merci
> slt
> bernard

Salut,

Comme ça faisait longtemps que je ne m'en étais pas servi, je viens d'essayer
et en testing avec la version 8.34.0.78 je n'ai aucun soucis ...

Gaëtan


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soucis avec skype for linux

2018-11-17 Thread Bernard Schoenacker
bonjour,

j'ai installé skype pour linux et je n'arrive pas à 
le faire fonctionner du fait que la fenêtre ne se
rafraichis pas correctement, en bref j'ai la taille 
de la fenêtre mais l'intérieur contient le fond 
de l'écran ...

j'ai essayé avec 2 versions et j'ai le même effet ...

comment retrouver le bon fonctionnement ?

désolé, mais ça m'est imposé d'utiliser skype, car
avec discord je n'ai pas de problème

merci
slt
bernard



Re: Skype for Business não passa pelo squid

2017-11-09 Thread Daniel Lenharo de Souza
O Skype mudou algumas formas na sua conexão.

Se fizer uma busca no technet, vai encontrar essa resposta por la, de
quais os sites para liberar (sim, são varios agora para liberar).


Em 09-11-2017 14:43, Christiano Liberato escreveu:
> Pessoal,
>
> estamos implementando skype for business na empresa mas ele não
> consegue autenticar quando passa pelo squid. IPs com privilégios de
> acessar fora do squid, acessam normalmente.
> Alguém sabe o q acontece neste meio de campo?
>
> Obrigado.

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Skype for Business não passa pelo squid

2017-11-09 Thread Christiano Liberato
Pessoal,

estamos implementando skype for business na empresa mas ele não consegue
autenticar quando passa pelo squid. IPs com privilégios de acessar fora do
squid, acessam normalmente.
Alguém sabe o q acontece neste meio de campo?

Obrigado.


Re: (deb-cat) Skype ben instalat

2017-10-24 Thread Narcis Garcia
Perdoneu, el vell mètode que funciona és aquest:
wget -O - https://repo.skype.com/data/SKYPE-GPG-KEY | sudo apt-key add -




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El 24/10/17 a les 16:40, Narcis Garcia ha escrit:
> Intento seguir alhora les recomanacions de Debian stable i les
> característiques de Skype pel tema repositori.
> 
> El què faig és descarregar la clau del repositori amb:
> $ sudo wget -O /usr/share/keyrings/skype-archive-keyring.gpg
> https://repo.skype.com/data/SKYPE-GPG-KEY
> 
> I aleshores enregistrar el repositori en un fitxer
> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/skype.list
> Amb aquesta sola línia:
> deb [signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/skype-archive-keyring.gpg arch=amd64]
> https://repo.skype.com/deb stable main
> 
> El problema sorgeix quan intento actualitzar el catàleg:
> $ sudo apt update
> Doncs es queixa:
> Err:4 https://repo.skype.com/deb stable InRelease
>   Les signatures següents no s'han pogut verificar perquè la clau
> pública no està disponible: NO_PUBKEY 1F3045A5DF7587C3
> 
> I la única solució és no seguir les recomanacions actuals de Debian i
> anar al vell estil:
> $ wget -O /usr/share/keyrings/skype-archive-keyring.gpg | sudo apt-key add -
> Deixar el fitxer /etc/apt/sources.list.d/skype.list així:
> deb [arch=amd64] https://repo.skype.com/deb stable main
> 
> I aleshores tot va finament.
> 
> Algú sap quin és el problema per utilitzar el nou estil de signatura
> basat en un fitxer?
> 
> Gràcies.
> 



(deb-cat) Skype ben instalat

2017-10-24 Thread Narcis Garcia
Intento seguir alhora les recomanacions de Debian stable i les
característiques de Skype pel tema repositori.

El què faig és descarregar la clau del repositori amb:
$ sudo wget -O /usr/share/keyrings/skype-archive-keyring.gpg
https://repo.skype.com/data/SKYPE-GPG-KEY

I aleshores enregistrar el repositori en un fitxer
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/skype.list
Amb aquesta sola línia:
deb [signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/skype-archive-keyring.gpg arch=amd64]
https://repo.skype.com/deb stable main

El problema sorgeix quan intento actualitzar el catàleg:
$ sudo apt update
Doncs es queixa:
Err:4 https://repo.skype.com/deb stable InRelease
  Les signatures següents no s'han pogut verificar perquè la clau
pública no està disponible: NO_PUBKEY 1F3045A5DF7587C3

I la única solució és no seguir les recomanacions actuals de Debian i
anar al vell estil:
$ wget -O /usr/share/keyrings/skype-archive-keyring.gpg | sudo apt-key add -
Deixar el fitxer /etc/apt/sources.list.d/skype.list així:
deb [arch=amd64] https://repo.skype.com/deb stable main

I aleshores tot va finament.

Algú sap quin és el problema per utilitzar el nou estil de signatura
basat en un fitxer?

Gràcies.

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Re: (deb-cat) Skype a Debian 8.7 (amd64)

2017-03-14 Thread Narcis Garcia
Ara veig, per poder-ho automatitzar:
https://repo.skype.com/latest/skypeforlinux-64.deb
S'instal·la i l'aplicació s'obre.

(La versió 4.3 segueix funcionant amb sistemes i686)

Gràcies!


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El 14/03/17 a les 20:13, Jordi Boixader ha escrit:
> vaig anar al web oficial d'Skype [1], llavors a descarregar Skype [2] i
> llavors a Descargar Skype para Linux DEB [3]
> 
> i t'enviarà el fitxer: skypeforlinux-64.deb (veig que ara ja no es alfa,
> l'antic era: skypeforlinux-64-alpha.deb) el que tinc jo instal·lat ara
> posa "beta" versio 5.0.0.5
> 
> [1] https://www.skype.com/es/
> [2] https://www.skype.com/es/download-skype/skype-for-computer/
> [3] https://go.skype.com/linux.deb
> 
> Salut!
> 
> El dia 14 de març de 2017 a les 19:55, Narcis Garcia
> <debianli...@actiu.net <mailto:debianli...@actiu.net>> ha escrit:
> 
> I d'on surt l'alfa aquest?
> 
> 
> 
> __
> I'm using this express-made address because personal addresses aren't
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> El 14/03/17 a les 17:49, Jordi Boixader ha escrit:
> > Jo faig servir Skype for Linux (alfa), crec que el vaig descarregar de
> > la pàgina oficial. Ja que l'altre Skype va deixar de funcionar. Altre
> > opció Skype web.
> >
> >
> > El dt., 14 març 2017 , 16:30, Narcis Garcia <debianli...@actiu.net 
> <mailto:debianli...@actiu.net>
> > <mailto:debianli...@actiu.net <mailto:debianli...@actiu.net>>> va
> escriure:
> >
> > Porto ja unes quantes instal·lacions de sistema on no aconsegueixo
> > completar la instal·lació de Skype. Segueixo totes les indicacions
> > del Wiki:
> > https://wiki.debian.org/skype
> > Però sense èxit, tant a causa de les dependències (ara)
> irresolubles
> > (com libqtwebkit4:i386) com de la manca de libGL.so.1 també
> aparentment
> > irresoluble.
> >
> > Algú altre s'hi ha trobat i ho ha aconseguit en aquesta versió
> (stable
> > actualitzada) de Debian?
> >
> > Gràcies.
> >
> > --
> >
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> >
> > http://jordi.boixader.com
> >
> 
> 



Re: (deb-cat) Skype a Debian 8.7 (amd64)

2017-03-14 Thread Jordi Boixader
vaig anar al web oficial d'Skype [1], llavors a descarregar Skype [2] i
llavors a Descargar Skype para Linux DEB [3]

i t'enviarà el fitxer: skypeforlinux-64.deb (veig que ara ja no es alfa,
l'antic era: skypeforlinux-64-alpha.deb) el que tinc jo instal·lat ara posa
"beta" versio 5.0.0.5

[1] https://www.skype.com/es/
[2] https://www.skype.com/es/download-skype/skype-for-computer/
[3] https://go.skype.com/linux.deb

Salut!

El dia 14 de març de 2017 a les 19:55, Narcis Garcia <debianli...@actiu.net>
ha escrit:

> I d'on surt l'alfa aquest?
>
>
>
> __
> I'm using this express-made address because personal addresses aren't
> masked enough at this list's archives. Mailing lists service
> administrator should fix this.
> El 14/03/17 a les 17:49, Jordi Boixader ha escrit:
> > Jo faig servir Skype for Linux (alfa), crec que el vaig descarregar de
> > la pàgina oficial. Ja que l'altre Skype va deixar de funcionar. Altre
> > opció Skype web.
> >
> >
> > El dt., 14 març 2017 , 16:30, Narcis Garcia <debianli...@actiu.net
> > <mailto:debianli...@actiu.net>> va escriure:
> >
> > Porto ja unes quantes instal·lacions de sistema on no aconsegueixo
> > completar la instal·lació de Skype. Segueixo totes les indicacions
> > del Wiki:
> > https://wiki.debian.org/skype
> > Però sense èxit, tant a causa de les dependències (ara) irresolubles
> > (com libqtwebkit4:i386) com de la manca de libGL.so.1 també
> aparentment
> > irresoluble.
> >
> > Algú altre s'hi ha trobat i ho ha aconseguit en aquesta versió
> (stable
> > actualitzada) de Debian?
> >
> > Gràcies.
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > __
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> > masked enough at this list's archives. Mailing lists service
> > administrator should fix this.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Correu enviat des del mòbil,  perdoneu la brevetat.
> >
> > http://jordi.boixader.com
> >
>
>


Re: (deb-cat) Skype a Debian 8.7 (amd64)

2017-03-14 Thread Narcis Garcia
I d'on surt l'alfa aquest?



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El 14/03/17 a les 17:49, Jordi Boixader ha escrit:
> Jo faig servir Skype for Linux (alfa), crec que el vaig descarregar de
> la pàgina oficial. Ja que l'altre Skype va deixar de funcionar. Altre
> opció Skype web.
> 
> 
> El dt., 14 març 2017 , 16:30, Narcis Garcia <debianli...@actiu.net
> <mailto:debianli...@actiu.net>> va escriure:
> 
> Porto ja unes quantes instal·lacions de sistema on no aconsegueixo
> completar la instal·lació de Skype. Segueixo totes les indicacions
> del Wiki:
> https://wiki.debian.org/skype
> Però sense èxit, tant a causa de les dependències (ara) irresolubles
> (com libqtwebkit4:i386) com de la manca de libGL.so.1 també aparentment
> irresoluble.
> 
> Algú altre s'hi ha trobat i ho ha aconseguit en aquesta versió (stable
> actualitzada) de Debian?
> 
> Gràcies.
> 
> --
> 
> 
> __
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> 
> -- 
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> 
> http://jordi.boixader.com
> 



Re: (deb-cat) Skype a Debian 8.7 (amd64)

2017-03-14 Thread Jordi Boixader
Jo faig servir Skype for Linux (alfa), crec que el vaig descarregar de la
pàgina oficial. Ja que l'altre Skype va deixar de funcionar. Altre opció
Skype web.

El dt., 14 març 2017 , 16:30, Narcis Garcia <debianli...@actiu.net> va
escriure:

> Porto ja unes quantes instal·lacions de sistema on no aconsegueixo
> completar la instal·lació de Skype. Segueixo totes les indicacions del
> Wiki:
> https://wiki.debian.org/skype
> Però sense èxit, tant a causa de les dependències (ara) irresolubles
> (com libqtwebkit4:i386) com de la manca de libGL.so.1 també aparentment
> irresoluble.
>
> Algú altre s'hi ha trobat i ho ha aconseguit en aquesta versió (stable
> actualitzada) de Debian?
>
> Gràcies.
>
> --
>
>
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(deb-cat) Skype a Debian 8.7 (amd64)

2017-03-14 Thread Narcis Garcia
Porto ja unes quantes instal·lacions de sistema on no aconsegueixo
completar la instal·lació de Skype. Segueixo totes les indicacions del Wiki:
https://wiki.debian.org/skype
Però sense èxit, tant a causa de les dependències (ara) irresolubles
(com libqtwebkit4:i386) com de la manca de libGL.so.1 també aparentment
irresoluble.

Algú altre s'hi ha trobat i ho ha aconseguit en aquesta versió (stable
actualitzada) de Debian?

Gràcies.

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Re: Skype

2017-03-04 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 2/8/17, deloptes <delop...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:
>
>> On 08/02/17 13:32, deloptes wrote:
>>> Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:
>>>> Sound works for me in Skype for Web under the non-free Chrome.
>>> haha indeed - and what about video, have you tested it? does it work in
>>> chrome too?
>>
>> I have not tried a video call.
>>
>>> I can choose between M$ and M$ ... oh well there is Apple as well
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSZfUnCK5qk
>> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080455/quotes?item=qt0320035
>> Elwood: What kind of music do you usually have here?
>> Claire: Oh, we got both kinds. We got country *and* western.
>>
>>> Very nice world!
>>
>> Trevor Noah; all the news you need:
>> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwWhs_6x42TyRM4Wstoq8HA
>>
>> Kind regards,
>
> Thanks ... except that it is not really funny. But well, every culture has
> its middle ages  unfortunately no one gets it ATM.
>
> If we are pragmatic it was a joke that skype was ported to linux, we'll
> need
> to find another way. I'm thinking of mere SIP phone or just dropping the
> desktop and using windows anyway. There was too much disappointment
> recently from the linux side.


Final thought first: My apt-cache query wandering while pondering this
thread landed me at "libpurple0". Am posting a resulting "apt-cache
show libpurple0" for listserv posterity because of this snippet that
was part of that query result:

"Conflicts: network-manager (<< 0.9.0)"

I wonder... I wonder if there's something similarly different that
could be found by running that kind of search on whatever package
names you all are using when you run into those moments of
non-functioning.

Now my original (not succinct) post

Another just thinking out loud moment.. Up front, I realize this might
not fulfill the exact feature that's needed, particularly since I'm
not seeing Skype referenced, but am forwarding anyway. Maybe it
provides something that could be adapted, yada-yada

A few weeks ago I tripped over a package called "Finch" while looking
for something else. I literally LOL'ed k/t their name with respect to
the whole pidgin/tweet scenario. From an "apt-cache show finch" query:

++ BEGIN FINCH PACKAGE DESCRIPTION SNIPPET ++

Maintainer: Ari Pollak <a...@debian.org>

Depends: pidgin-data, pidgin-data, libc6, libgadu3, libglib2.0-0,
libgstreamer1.0-0, libncursesw5, libpurple0, libtinfo5, libxml2
Suggests: libx11-6

Description-en: text-based multi-protocol instant messaging client
 Finch is a text/console-based, modular instant messaging client capable of
 using multiple networks at once. Currently supported are:
 AIM/ICQ, Yahoo!, MSN, IRC, Jabber/XMPP/Google Talk, Napster, Zephyr, Gadu-Gadu,
 Bonjour, Groupwise, Sametime, SIMPLE, MySpaceIM, and MXit.
 .
 Some extra packages are suggested to use increased functionality:
  * libx11-6
- To use the Clipboard and/or Toaster plugins.

Homepage: http://www.pidgin.im

++ END FINCH PACKAGE DESCRIPTION SNIPPET ++

I'm looking at the "depends" there. That "purple" is familiar as being
something I tried once for what I'm sure was a stand alone program
somehow (or maybe not/never?). I'm now only seeing it as "libpurple0".
Was worth the few extra seconds to keep poking around because of its
"conflicts with" reference:

++ BEGIN LIBPURPLE0 PACKAGE DESCRIPTION SNIPPET ++

Maintainer: Ari Pollak <a...@debian.org>

Depends: pidgin-data, pidgin-data, libavahi-client3, libavahi-common3,
libavahi-glib1, libc6, libdbus-1-3, libdbus-glib-1-2,
libfarstream-0.2-5, libgadu3, libglib2.0-0,
libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-0, libgstreamer1.0-0, libidn11,
libmeanwhile1, libnspr4, libnss3, libperl5.24, libsasl2-2, libxml2,
libzephyr4, libzephyr4-krb5, perl-base, , perl-base,
libsasl2-modules
Recommends: ca-certificates, libpurple-bin
Suggests: libtcl8.6

Conflicts: network-manager (<< 0.9.0)

Description-en: multi-protocol instant messaging library
 libpurple is a library intended to be used by programmers seeking
 to write an IM client that connects to many IM networks.
 Currently supported are:
 AIM/ICQ, Yahoo!, MSN, IRC, Jabber/XMPP/Google Talk, Napster, Zephyr, Gadu-Gadu,
 Bonjour, Groupwise, Sametime, SIMPLE, MySpaceIM, and MXit.
 .
 Some extra packages are suggested to use increased functionality:
  * libtcl8.6, libtk8.6:
- Support for writing plugins with Tcl/Tk

Homepage: http://www.pidgin.im

++ END LIBPURPLE0 PACKAGE DESCRIPTION SNIPPET ++

Original point before I further tripped over libpurple0 was to ask if
anyone has ever tried Finch to see if it somehow fills in where other
packages are not so stable? With Finch appearing to be terminal
command line based, I highl

Re: Skype

2017-03-04 Thread deloptes
Daniel Bareiro wrote:

> An update. A few days ago they switched to Beta. Yesterday I tried video
> calls. A person with an Android device called me and I was able to pick
> up the call and talk to her. So it's an important progress.
> 
> Although I saw that the chat area shows the start time of the call, the
> duration of the call is not displayed. I think it would be good to keep
> track of this there as well.

Old version 4.3.0.37-1 is still working. I tried linux - linux and linux -
windows, windows - linux with voice and video

regards



Re: Skype

2017-03-04 Thread Daniel Bareiro
Hi!

On 07/02/17 17:25, Anonymous wrote:

> Skype on Linux is terrible and crashes randomly, even after fixing the
> Pulseaudio issue. No other software I've ever used on Linux causes as
> many problems as Skype. Obviously this problem ultimately comes from
> Microsoft, but nevertheless many of us need Skype for communications
> with colleagues running a non-Linux OS since it is the overwhelming
> market leader in VOIP; this is especially common in a business environment.
> 
> Skype needs to run on Linux with the same stability that it does on
> Windows and MacOS, WITHOUT resorting to installing WINE, and preferably
> without relying on WebRTC.
> 
> If you could develop a non-Skype Linux client with the ability to easily
> communicate on the Skype platform --- something open source but which
> has compatibility with Skype, coordinated with Microsoft --- that would
> be ideal. But relying on Microsoft to develop good software for Linux
> has proven to be a losing proposition and I'm sure is stifling the
> adoption of Linux by a wider audience.

An update. A few days ago they switched to Beta. Yesterday I tried video
calls. A person with an Android device called me and I was able to pick
up the call and talk to her. So it's an important progress.

Although I saw that the chat area shows the start time of the call, the
duration of the call is not displayed. I think it would be good to keep
track of this there as well.


Kind regards,
Daniel



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Re: Skype

2017-02-08 Thread ken

On 02/07/2017 03:25 PM, Anonymous wrote:

Skype on Linux is terrible and crashes randomly, even after fixing the
Pulseaudio issue. No other software I've ever used on Linux causes as
many problems as Skype. Obviously this problem ultimately comes from
Microsoft, but nevertheless many of us need Skype for communications
with colleagues running a non-Linux OS since it is the overwhelming
market leader in VOIP; this is especially common in a business environment.

Skype needs to run on Linux with the same stability that it does on
Windows and MacOS, WITHOUT resorting to installing WINE, and preferably
without relying on WebRTC.

If you could develop a non-Skype Linux client with the ability to easily
communicate on the Skype platform --- something open source but which
has compatibility with Skype, coordinated with Microsoft --- that would
be ideal. But relying on Microsoft to develop good software for Linux
has proven to be a losing proposition and I'm sure is stifling the
adoption of Linux by a wider audience.

Having frequent connection drop-outs with Skype on different Linux and 
Android platforms, I switched over to Hangouts, a Google product.  It's 
better, buy still not as good as I'd like.  Now I'm trying to migrate 
over to Signal, a Whisper Systems product, but as with all of them, 
people on both ends need to use the same product and there aren't yet a 
lot of people using Signal.  More info about it at 
http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Features/Signal-Private-Messenger 
and https://whispersystems.org/




Re: Skype

2017-02-08 Thread deloptes
to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

> Next Tuesday (Feb 14) is "I Love Free Software day", a good chance to
> tell your favorite developer that yes, you appreciate her/his job and
> to send her/him virtual hugs ♥♥♥
> 
> Go ahead :)

haha, thank you tomas



Re: Skype

2017-02-08 Thread Ric Moore

On 02/08/2017 06:03 AM, Daniel Bareiro wrote:


I am currently testing Jitsi Meet [1] with Debian. Here [2] you can see
a server with Jitsi Meet open to the community for test the system.

Kind regards,
Daniel

[1] https://jitsi.org/Projects/JitsiMeet
[2] https://meet.jit.si


I'm giving this a whirl. Easy enough to install. Ric


--
My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html



Re: Skype

2017-02-08 Thread Daniel Bareiro
Hi, deloptes.

On 08/02/17 03:36, deloptes wrote:

> If we are pragmatic it was a joke that skype was ported to linux, we'll need
> to find another way. I'm thinking of mere SIP phone or just dropping the
> desktop and using windows anyway. There was too much disappointment
> recently from the linux side.

I am currently testing Jitsi Meet [1] with Debian. Here [2] you can see
a server with Jitsi Meet open to the community for test the system.

Kind regards,
Daniel

[1] https://jitsi.org/Projects/JitsiMeet
[2] https://meet.jit.si



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Re: Skype

2017-02-07 Thread tomas
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On Wed, Feb 08, 2017 at 07:36:58AM +0100, deloptes wrote:
> Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:
> 
> > On 08/02/17 13:32, deloptes wrote:
> >> Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:
> >>> Sound works for me in Skype for Web under the non-free Chrome.
> >> haha indeed - and what about video, have you tested it? does it work in
> >> chrome too?
> > 
> > I have not tried a video call.
> > 
> >> I can choose between M$ and M$ ... oh well there is Apple as well
> > 
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSZfUnCK5qk
> > http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080455/quotes?item=qt0320035
> > Elwood: What kind of music do you usually have here?
> > Claire: Oh, we got both kinds. We got country *and* western.
> > 
> >> Very nice world!
> > 
> > Trevor Noah; all the news you need:
> > https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwWhs_6x42TyRM4Wstoq8HA
> > 
> > Kind regards,
> 
> Thanks ... except that it is not really funny. But well, every culture has
> its middle ages  unfortunately no one gets it ATM.
> 
> If we are pragmatic it was a joke that skype was ported to linux, we'll need
> to find another way. I'm thinking of mere SIP phone or just dropping the
> desktop and using windows anyway. There was too much disappointment
> recently from the linux side.

Well, there are a couple of projects to cheer for, then. Just examples:

  http://planet.freertc.org/
  https://webrtc.org/

Next Tuesday (Feb 14) is "I Love Free Software day", a good chance to
tell your favorite developer that yes, you appreciate her/his job and
to send her/him virtual hugs ♥♥♥

Go ahead :)

regards
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Re: Skype

2017-02-07 Thread deloptes
Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:

> On 08/02/17 13:32, deloptes wrote:
>> Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:
>>> Sound works for me in Skype for Web under the non-free Chrome.
>> haha indeed - and what about video, have you tested it? does it work in
>> chrome too?
> 
> I have not tried a video call.
> 
>> I can choose between M$ and M$ ... oh well there is Apple as well
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSZfUnCK5qk
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080455/quotes?item=qt0320035
> Elwood: What kind of music do you usually have here?
> Claire: Oh, we got both kinds. We got country *and* western.
> 
>> Very nice world!
> 
> Trevor Noah; all the news you need:
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwWhs_6x42TyRM4Wstoq8HA
> 
> Kind regards,

Thanks ... except that it is not really funny. But well, every culture has
its middle ages  unfortunately no one gets it ATM.

If we are pragmatic it was a joke that skype was ported to linux, we'll need
to find another way. I'm thinking of mere SIP phone or just dropping the
desktop and using windows anyway. There was too much disappointment
recently from the linux side.

regards



Re: Skype

2017-02-07 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies

On 08/02/17 13:32, deloptes wrote:

Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:

Sound works for me in Skype for Web under the non-free Chrome.

haha indeed - and what about video, have you tested it? does it work in
chrome too?


I have not tried a video call.


I can choose between M$ and M$ ... oh well there is Apple as well


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSZfUnCK5qk
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080455/quotes?item=qt0320035
Elwood: What kind of music do you usually have here?
Claire: Oh, we got both kinds. We got country *and* western.


Very nice world!


Trevor Noah; all the news you need:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwWhs_6x42TyRM4Wstoq8HA

Kind regards,

--
Ben Caradoc-Davies <b...@transient.nz>
Director
Transient Software Limited <http://transient.nz/>
New Zealand



Re: Skype

2017-02-07 Thread deloptes
Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:

> Sound works for me in Skype for Web under the non-free Chrome.

haha indeed - and what about video, have you tested it? does it work in
chrome too?


And another product buried by M$ ... in fact the biggest one was Nokia
though - IMO ... well done Europe ... well done US ... well done China.
IMO linux as desktop will be just a toy for kids soon ...  and perhaps
developers.

Regarding OS I now have a big choice on the phone market (android various
versions), I have a big choice on the desktop market as well and I have soo
much choice @work - I can choose between M$ and M$ ... oh well there is
Apple as well - I never understood how it works and why it exists :D - oh
yes - I forgot, M$ is keeping it alive ... because otherwise they'll break
apart M$.

Very nice world! Thank you all! In the past 17y we've done excellent work!
KDE became unusable, Gnome became ugly ... but most important we are happy,
multi cultural, refugee-welcome, anti-trump, vegetarian, hipster, raspberry
society ... Sooo many useful things we've done in those past years. I
forgot mentioning saving so many too-big-to-fails ... so that investment in
education went down everywhere ... And don't forget more people have access
to food and water today than 20y ago ... because, well, those that didn't
are already dead.

*irony off*

regards





Re: Skype

2017-02-07 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies

On 08/02/17 11:49, deloptes wrote:

Very interesting. I log in to skype for web. It says at the top:
"Interested in richer and more integrated experience? Download the official
desktop app. Download"
When I "download" I get debian package "skypeforlinux-64-alpha.deb"
installing this creates
cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/skype-stable.list
deb [arch=amd64] https://repo.skype.com/deb stable main
and skypeforlinux runs with a somewhat newer theme, however sound is not
working for me - I just tried "Skype Test Call". Well it says it's Alpha,
so might be they'll release a working beta until 1. March.
Or it might be finally time to change to something else ... I evaluated
recently Tox...
Very interesting story - thanks
regards


I have not used it but, according to this Slashdot comment, "Skype for 
Linux" is Skype for Web in Chromium:

https://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10202241=53802307

Sound works for me in Skype for Web under the non-free Chrome.

If the comment above is correct, I do not see the point of "Skype for 
Linux". A software product that contains a web browser so that it can 
connect to a single web site is in my view a deployment anti-pattern 
because it (1) duplicates the installation of software, and (2) defeats 
the purpose of the web (interoperability).


Kind regards,

--
Ben Caradoc-Davies <b...@transient.nz>
Director
Transient Software Limited <http://transient.nz/>
New Zealand



Re: Skype

2017-02-07 Thread deloptes
Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:

> On 08/02/17 10:20, deloptes wrote:
>> Anonymous wrote:
>>> Skype on Linux is terrible and crashes randomly, even after fixing the
>>> Pulseaudio issue.
>> I use debian jessie and skype 4.3.0.37 on daily basis - no idea what you
>> are talking about.
> 
> I use Skype 4.3.0.37 i386 on unstable. While it still works for Skype
> Out, group calls and chat now require cloud connections and do not work.
> For group calls and chat, I use Skype for Web in Chrome.
> 
> The worst news is that Microsoft are shutting down Skype p2p in three
> weeks (on 1 March). I expect that I will no longer be able to sign in
> with Skype 4.3.0.37. I did not receive any email notifying me of this. I
> only heard about it online:
>
https://apple.slashdot.org/story/17/02/04/059204/microsoft-is-disabling-older-versions-of-skype-for-mac-and-windows-on-march-1
>
http://venturebeat.com/2017/02/03/microsoft-is-disabling-older-versions-of-skype-for-mac-and-windows-on-march-1/
>
https://blogs.skype.com/news/2017/02/03/the-skype-you-love-is-getting-better-download-it-for-free-today/
>
https://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/Skype-for-Linux-End-of-life/td-p/4586741
> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/02/skype-for-linux-end-of-life-march
> 
> I am hoping that Skype for Web will meet my needs. The interface seems
> clunkier, is missing some functionality, and chat history is discarded
> after a short time (30 days?). Core functionality seems to work.
> 
> On the up-side, once Skype 4.3.0.37 is gone, I am one Brother printer
> driver away from ditching the entire i386 architecture.
> 
> Kind regards,

Very interesting. I log in to skype for web. It says at the top:
"Interested in richer and more integrated experience? Download the official
desktop app. Download"

When I "download" I get debian package "skypeforlinux-64-alpha.deb"

installing this creates

cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/skype-stable.list
deb [arch=amd64] https://repo.skype.com/deb stable main

and skypeforlinux runs with a somewhat newer theme, however sound is not
working for me - I just tried "Skype Test Call". Well it says it's Alpha,
so might be they'll release a working beta until 1. March.
Or it might be finally time to change to something else ... I evaluated
recently Tox...

Very interesting story - thanks

regards



Re: Skype

2017-02-07 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies

On 08/02/17 10:20, deloptes wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Skype on Linux is terrible and crashes randomly, even after fixing the
Pulseaudio issue.

I use debian jessie and skype 4.3.0.37 on daily basis - no idea what you are
talking about.


I use Skype 4.3.0.37 i386 on unstable. While it still works for Skype 
Out, group calls and chat now require cloud connections and do not work. 
For group calls and chat, I use Skype for Web in Chrome.


The worst news is that Microsoft are shutting down Skype p2p in three 
weeks (on 1 March). I expect that I will no longer be able to sign in 
with Skype 4.3.0.37. I did not receive any email notifying me of this. I 
only heard about it online:

https://apple.slashdot.org/story/17/02/04/059204/microsoft-is-disabling-older-versions-of-skype-for-mac-and-windows-on-march-1
http://venturebeat.com/2017/02/03/microsoft-is-disabling-older-versions-of-skype-for-mac-and-windows-on-march-1/
https://blogs.skype.com/news/2017/02/03/the-skype-you-love-is-getting-better-download-it-for-free-today/
https://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/Skype-for-Linux-End-of-life/td-p/4586741
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/02/skype-for-linux-end-of-life-march

I am hoping that Skype for Web will meet my needs. The interface seems 
clunkier, is missing some functionality, and chat history is discarded 
after a short time (30 days?). Core functionality seems to work.


On the up-side, once Skype 4.3.0.37 is gone, I am one Brother printer 
driver away from ditching the entire i386 architecture.


Kind regards,

--
Ben Caradoc-Davies <b...@transient.nz>
Director
Transient Software Limited <http://transient.nz/>
New Zealand



Re: Skype

2017-02-07 Thread Joshua M. Boniface

On 2017-02-07 3:25 PM, Anonymous wrote:

Skype on Linux is terrible and crashes randomly, even after fixing the
Pulseaudio issue. No other software I've ever used on Linux causes as
many problems as Skype. Obviously this problem ultimately comes from
Microsoft, but nevertheless many of us need Skype for communications
with colleagues running a non-Linux OS since it is the overwhelming
market leader in VOIP; this is especially common in a business environment.

Skype needs to run on Linux with the same stability that it does on
Windows and MacOS, WITHOUT resorting to installing WINE, and preferably
without relying on WebRTC.

If you could develop a non-Skype Linux client with the ability to easily
communicate on the Skype platform --- something open source but which
has compatibility with Skype, coordinated with Microsoft --- that would
be ideal. But relying on Microsoft to develop good software for Linux
has proven to be a losing proposition and I'm sure is stifling the
adoption of Linux by a wider audience.

So you're basically asking for a native Skype... that isn't Skype? That 
would be great, except that the application and protocol are completely 
closed-source, so until Microsoft releases the protocol, we're out of 
luck with that. Perhaps contact Microsoft with your concerns about their 
closed-source application, or encourage your colleagues to move to a 
more open system?


- Joshua



Re: Skype

2017-02-07 Thread deloptes
Anonymous wrote:

> Skype on Linux is terrible and crashes randomly, even after fixing the
> Pulseaudio issue.

I use debian jessie and skype 4.3.0.37 on daily basis - no idea what you are
talking about.





Skype

2017-02-07 Thread Anonymous
Skype on Linux is terrible and crashes randomly, even after fixing the
Pulseaudio issue. No other software I've ever used on Linux causes as
many problems as Skype. Obviously this problem ultimately comes from
Microsoft, but nevertheless many of us need Skype for communications
with colleagues running a non-Linux OS since it is the overwhelming
market leader in VOIP; this is especially common in a business environment.

Skype needs to run on Linux with the same stability that it does on
Windows and MacOS, WITHOUT resorting to installing WINE, and preferably
without relying on WebRTC.

If you could develop a non-Skype Linux client with the ability to easily
communicate on the Skype platform --- something open source but which
has compatibility with Skype, coordinated with Microsoft --- that would
be ideal. But relying on Microsoft to develop good software for Linux
has proven to be a losing proposition and I'm sure is stifling the
adoption of Linux by a wider audience.



Re: Re: skype

2016-07-11 Thread Thiago Canuto Ferreira
Obrigado pela informação. Eu baixei no site oficial, e instalei de lá
conforme instruído aqui. Estou usando o Debian 8.5 Jessie.

O interessante é que o instalador é para i386, mas o meu notebook é
64bits. Esta funcionando corretamente.



Re: Skype não instala no debian 8.4

2016-05-20 Thread Anderson Gusm@o
Pessoal, Comigo aconteceu o seguinte: Quando coloco para instalar as
dependências existe uma que começa a remover os programas do debian. Nisso
perco toda as coisas que foram instaladas.
Em 20 de mai de 2016 8:32 AM, "P. J." <pjotam...@gmail.com> escreveu:

> Sim, faltou botar o atualizar o cache, mas confesso q não cheguei a
> testar com forçando a instalação... enfim vlw
>
> Em 20/05/16, Lucas Castro<lucascastrobor...@gmail.com> escreveu:
> >
> >
> > On 18-05-2016 10:48, P. J. wrote:
> >> Eu usando a versão strech/testing tive problema com somente com uma
> >> dependência seguindo [1]
> >>
> >> Que é praticamente add suporte a 32bits
> >>
> >> # dpkg --add-architecture i386
> > apt-get update [?] em sequencia
> >> Instalar as dependências
> >>
> >> # aptitude install libc6:i386 libqt4-dbus:i386 libqt4-network:i386
> >> libqt4-xml:i386 libqtcore4:i386 libqtgui4:i386 libqtwebkit4:i386
> >> libstdc++6:i386 libx11-6:i386 libxext6:i386 libxss1:i386 libxv1:i386
> >> libssl1.0.0:i386 libpulse0:i386 libasound2-plugins:i386
> >>
> >> Baixar o pacote *.deb
> >>
> >> # wget -O skype-install.deb http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-deb
> >>
> >> E deu pau na hora de instalar
> >>
> >> dpkg -i skype-install.deb
> >>
> >> O problema que na strech não tem a  libssl1.0.0:i386 somente a versão
> >> 1.0.2
> >>
> >> # aptitude search libssl1
> >> i   libssl1.0.2
> >> - Secure Sockets Layer toolkit - shared
> >> libraries
> >> p   libssl1.0.2:i386
> >> - Secure Sockets Layer toolkit - shared
> >> libraries
> >>
> >> Não quis instalar mais coisa para essa porcaria de skype, que
> >> infelizmente sou obrigado a usar... =-S
> > apt-get -f install após o erro irá resolver as dependência.
> >> [1]
> >> https://wiki.debian.org/skype
> >>
> >> Em 18/05/16, Leonardo S. S. da Rocha<leonardo...@gmail.com> escreveu:
> >>> É isso ai Anderson, instala sim. Eu também tive problemas quando
> >>> tentei a primeira vez. Notei uma coisa, como ele tem alguns
> >>> "probleminhas" com dependências, no meu caso, teria sido melhor
> >>> instalar ele logo no começo, após a instalação do sistema operacional.
> >>> Digo isso porque o apt-get -f install teria resolvido. A dica do Paulo
> >>> também é válida, você precisa "autorizar" a arquitetura do pacote no
> >>> S.O.
> >>>
> >>> Espero que dê certo por ai.
> >>>
> >>> 2016-05-18 6:09 GMT-03:00 Paulo Alexandre A.P. de Oliveira
> >>> <paulo.p.olive...@sapo.pt>:
> >>>> Boas. O Skype instala sim, aliás tenho-o instalado no Debian 8.4. O
> >>>> truque
> >>>> é
> >>>> que o skype que existe é 32bit, sendo assim, ele instala muito bem na
> >>>> arquitectura i386, mas para amd64 precisa de ser Debian multiarch, com
> >>>> o
> >>>> sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386.
> >>>>
> >>>> Abraço,
> >>>>
> >>>> Paulo.
> >>>>
> >>>> Às 03:59 de 18-05-2016, Anderson Gusm@o escreveu:
> >>>>
> >>>> Olá galerinha... peço ajuda de vocês. pois o skype não esta sendo
> >>>> instalado
> >>>> no debian 04. fico no aguardo
> >>>> desde já agradeço.
> >>>> abraços
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Anderson Gusmão
> >>>> Telefone: (81) 9630.8494
> >>>> E-mail: andergus...@gmail.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> "A maneira de ajudar os outros é provar-lhes que eles são capazes de
> >>>> pensar."
> >>>> (Dom Hélder Câmara)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> __
> >>> Atenciosamente,
> >>> (Best regards),
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Leonardo Rocha
> >>> about.me/leonardo.rocha
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> |  .''`.   A fé não dá respostas. Só impede perguntas.
> | : :'  :
> | `. `'`
> |   `-   Je vois tout
>
>


Re: Skype não instala no debian 8.4

2016-05-20 Thread P. J.
Sim, faltou botar o atualizar o cache, mas confesso q não cheguei a
testar com forçando a instalação... enfim vlw

Em 20/05/16, Lucas Castro<lucascastrobor...@gmail.com> escreveu:
>
>
> On 18-05-2016 10:48, P. J. wrote:
>> Eu usando a versão strech/testing tive problema com somente com uma
>> dependência seguindo [1]
>>
>> Que é praticamente add suporte a 32bits
>>
>> # dpkg --add-architecture i386
> apt-get update [?] em sequencia
>> Instalar as dependências
>>
>> # aptitude install libc6:i386 libqt4-dbus:i386 libqt4-network:i386
>> libqt4-xml:i386 libqtcore4:i386 libqtgui4:i386 libqtwebkit4:i386
>> libstdc++6:i386 libx11-6:i386 libxext6:i386 libxss1:i386 libxv1:i386
>> libssl1.0.0:i386 libpulse0:i386 libasound2-plugins:i386
>>
>> Baixar o pacote *.deb
>>
>> # wget -O skype-install.deb http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-deb
>>
>> E deu pau na hora de instalar
>>
>> dpkg -i skype-install.deb
>>
>> O problema que na strech não tem a  libssl1.0.0:i386 somente a versão
>> 1.0.2
>>
>> # aptitude search libssl1
>> i   libssl1.0.2
>> - Secure Sockets Layer toolkit - shared
>> libraries
>> p   libssl1.0.2:i386
>> - Secure Sockets Layer toolkit - shared
>> libraries
>>
>> Não quis instalar mais coisa para essa porcaria de skype, que
>> infelizmente sou obrigado a usar... =-S
> apt-get -f install após o erro irá resolver as dependência.
>> [1]
>> https://wiki.debian.org/skype
>>
>> Em 18/05/16, Leonardo S. S. da Rocha<leonardo...@gmail.com> escreveu:
>>> É isso ai Anderson, instala sim. Eu também tive problemas quando
>>> tentei a primeira vez. Notei uma coisa, como ele tem alguns
>>> "probleminhas" com dependências, no meu caso, teria sido melhor
>>> instalar ele logo no começo, após a instalação do sistema operacional.
>>> Digo isso porque o apt-get -f install teria resolvido. A dica do Paulo
>>> também é válida, você precisa "autorizar" a arquitetura do pacote no
>>> S.O.
>>>
>>> Espero que dê certo por ai.
>>>
>>> 2016-05-18 6:09 GMT-03:00 Paulo Alexandre A.P. de Oliveira
>>> <paulo.p.olive...@sapo.pt>:
>>>> Boas. O Skype instala sim, aliás tenho-o instalado no Debian 8.4. O
>>>> truque
>>>> é
>>>> que o skype que existe é 32bit, sendo assim, ele instala muito bem na
>>>> arquitectura i386, mas para amd64 precisa de ser Debian multiarch, com
>>>> o
>>>> sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386.
>>>>
>>>> Abraço,
>>>>
>>>> Paulo.
>>>>
>>>> Às 03:59 de 18-05-2016, Anderson Gusm@o escreveu:
>>>>
>>>> Olá galerinha... peço ajuda de vocês. pois o skype não esta sendo
>>>> instalado
>>>> no debian 04. fico no aguardo
>>>> desde já agradeço.
>>>> abraços
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Anderson Gusmão
>>>> Telefone: (81) 9630.8494
>>>> E-mail: andergus...@gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "A maneira de ajudar os outros é provar-lhes que eles são capazes de
>>>> pensar."
>>>> (Dom Hélder Câmara)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> __
>>> Atenciosamente,
>>> (Best regards),
>>>
>>>
>>> Leonardo Rocha
>>> about.me/leonardo.rocha
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>


-- 
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| : :'  :
| `. `'`
|   `-   Je vois tout



Re: Skype não instala no debian 8.4

2016-05-19 Thread Lucas Castro


On 18-05-2016 10:48, P. J. wrote:
> Eu usando a versão strech/testing tive problema com somente com uma
> dependência seguindo [1]
>
> Que é praticamente add suporte a 32bits
>
> # dpkg --add-architecture i386
apt-get update [?] em sequencia
> Instalar as dependências
>
> # aptitude install libc6:i386 libqt4-dbus:i386 libqt4-network:i386
> libqt4-xml:i386 libqtcore4:i386 libqtgui4:i386 libqtwebkit4:i386
> libstdc++6:i386 libx11-6:i386 libxext6:i386 libxss1:i386 libxv1:i386
> libssl1.0.0:i386 libpulse0:i386 libasound2-plugins:i386
>
> Baixar o pacote *.deb
>
> # wget -O skype-install.deb http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-deb
>
> E deu pau na hora de instalar
>
> dpkg -i skype-install.deb
>
> O problema que na strech não tem a  libssl1.0.0:i386 somente a versão 1.0.2
>
> # aptitude search libssl1
> i   libssl1.0.2
> - Secure Sockets Layer toolkit - shared
> libraries
> p   libssl1.0.2:i386
> - Secure Sockets Layer toolkit - shared
> libraries
>
> Não quis instalar mais coisa para essa porcaria de skype, que
> infelizmente sou obrigado a usar... =-S
apt-get -f install após o erro irá resolver as dependência.
> [1]
> https://wiki.debian.org/skype
>
> Em 18/05/16, Leonardo S. S. da Rocha<leonardo...@gmail.com> escreveu:
>> É isso ai Anderson, instala sim. Eu também tive problemas quando
>> tentei a primeira vez. Notei uma coisa, como ele tem alguns
>> "probleminhas" com dependências, no meu caso, teria sido melhor
>> instalar ele logo no começo, após a instalação do sistema operacional.
>> Digo isso porque o apt-get -f install teria resolvido. A dica do Paulo
>> também é válida, você precisa "autorizar" a arquitetura do pacote no
>> S.O.
>>
>> Espero que dê certo por ai.
>>
>> 2016-05-18 6:09 GMT-03:00 Paulo Alexandre A.P. de Oliveira
>> <paulo.p.olive...@sapo.pt>:
>>> Boas. O Skype instala sim, aliás tenho-o instalado no Debian 8.4. O truque
>>> é
>>> que o skype que existe é 32bit, sendo assim, ele instala muito bem na
>>> arquitectura i386, mas para amd64 precisa de ser Debian multiarch, com o
>>> sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386.
>>>
>>> Abraço,
>>>
>>> Paulo.
>>>
>>> Às 03:59 de 18-05-2016, Anderson Gusm@o escreveu:
>>>
>>> Olá galerinha... peço ajuda de vocês. pois o skype não esta sendo
>>> instalado
>>> no debian 04. fico no aguardo
>>> desde já agradeço.
>>> abraços
>>>
>>> --
>>> Anderson Gusmão
>>> Telefone: (81) 9630.8494
>>> E-mail: andergus...@gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>> "A maneira de ajudar os outros é provar-lhes que eles são capazes de
>>> pensar."
>>> (Dom Hélder Câmara)
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> __
>> Atenciosamente,
>> (Best regards),
>>
>>
>> Leonardo Rocha
>> about.me/leonardo.rocha
>>
>>
>




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Re: Skype não instala no debian 8.4

2016-05-18 Thread P. J.
Eu usando a versão strech/testing tive problema com somente com uma
dependência seguindo [1]

Que é praticamente add suporte a 32bits

# dpkg --add-architecture i386

Instalar as dependências

# aptitude install libc6:i386 libqt4-dbus:i386 libqt4-network:i386
libqt4-xml:i386 libqtcore4:i386 libqtgui4:i386 libqtwebkit4:i386
libstdc++6:i386 libx11-6:i386 libxext6:i386 libxss1:i386 libxv1:i386
libssl1.0.0:i386 libpulse0:i386 libasound2-plugins:i386

Baixar o pacote *.deb

# wget -O skype-install.deb http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-deb

E deu pau na hora de instalar

dpkg -i skype-install.deb

O problema que na strech não tem a  libssl1.0.0:i386 somente a versão 1.0.2

# aptitude search libssl1
i   libssl1.0.2
- Secure Sockets Layer toolkit - shared
libraries
p   libssl1.0.2:i386
- Secure Sockets Layer toolkit - shared
libraries

Não quis instalar mais coisa para essa porcaria de skype, que
infelizmente sou obrigado a usar... =-S

[1]
https://wiki.debian.org/skype

Em 18/05/16, Leonardo S. S. da Rocha<leonardo...@gmail.com> escreveu:
> É isso ai Anderson, instala sim. Eu também tive problemas quando
> tentei a primeira vez. Notei uma coisa, como ele tem alguns
> "probleminhas" com dependências, no meu caso, teria sido melhor
> instalar ele logo no começo, após a instalação do sistema operacional.
> Digo isso porque o apt-get -f install teria resolvido. A dica do Paulo
> também é válida, você precisa "autorizar" a arquitetura do pacote no
> S.O.
>
> Espero que dê certo por ai.
>
> 2016-05-18 6:09 GMT-03:00 Paulo Alexandre A.P. de Oliveira
> <paulo.p.olive...@sapo.pt>:
>> Boas. O Skype instala sim, aliás tenho-o instalado no Debian 8.4. O truque
>> é
>> que o skype que existe é 32bit, sendo assim, ele instala muito bem na
>> arquitectura i386, mas para amd64 precisa de ser Debian multiarch, com o
>> sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386.
>>
>> Abraço,
>>
>> Paulo.
>>
>> Às 03:59 de 18-05-2016, Anderson Gusm@o escreveu:
>>
>> Olá galerinha... peço ajuda de vocês. pois o skype não esta sendo
>> instalado
>> no debian 04. fico no aguardo
>> desde já agradeço.
>> abraços
>>
>> --
>> Anderson Gusmão
>> Telefone: (81) 9630.8494
>> E-mail: andergus...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>> "A maneira de ajudar os outros é provar-lhes que eles são capazes de
>> pensar."
>> (Dom Hélder Câmara)
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> __
> Atenciosamente,
> (Best regards),
>
>
> Leonardo Rocha
> about.me/leonardo.rocha
>
>


-- 
|  .''`.   A fé não dá respostas. Só impede perguntas.
| : :'  :
| `. `'`
|   `-   Je vois tout



Re: Skype não instala no debian 8.4

2016-05-18 Thread Leonardo S. S. da Rocha
É isso ai Anderson, instala sim. Eu também tive problemas quando
tentei a primeira vez. Notei uma coisa, como ele tem alguns
"probleminhas" com dependências, no meu caso, teria sido melhor
instalar ele logo no começo, após a instalação do sistema operacional.
Digo isso porque o apt-get -f install teria resolvido. A dica do Paulo
também é válida, você precisa "autorizar" a arquitetura do pacote no
S.O.

Espero que dê certo por ai.

2016-05-18 6:09 GMT-03:00 Paulo Alexandre A.P. de Oliveira
<paulo.p.olive...@sapo.pt>:
> Boas. O Skype instala sim, aliás tenho-o instalado no Debian 8.4. O truque é
> que o skype que existe é 32bit, sendo assim, ele instala muito bem na
> arquitectura i386, mas para amd64 precisa de ser Debian multiarch, com o
> sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386.
>
> Abraço,
>
> Paulo.
>
> Às 03:59 de 18-05-2016, Anderson Gusm@o escreveu:
>
> Olá galerinha... peço ajuda de vocês. pois o skype não esta sendo instalado
> no debian 04. fico no aguardo
> desde já agradeço.
> abraços
>
> --
> Anderson Gusmão
> Telefone: (81) 9630.8494
> E-mail: andergus...@gmail.com
>
>
> "A maneira de ajudar os outros é provar-lhes que eles são capazes de
> pensar."
> (Dom Hélder Câmara)
>
>



-- 

__
Atenciosamente,
(Best regards),


Leonardo Rocha
about.me/leonardo.rocha



Re: Skype não instala no debian 8.4

2016-05-18 Thread Paulo Alexandre A.P. de Oliveira
Boas. O Skype instala sim, aliás tenho-o instalado no Debian 8.4. O
truque é que o skype que existe é 32bit, sendo assim, ele instala muito
bem na arquitectura i386, mas para amd64 precisa de ser Debian
multiarch, com o sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386.

Abraço,

Paulo.

Às 03:59 de 18-05-2016, Anderson Gusm@o escreveu:
> Olá galerinha... peço ajuda de vocês. pois o skype não esta sendo
> instalado no debian 04. fico no aguardo
> desde já agradeço.
> abraços
>
> -- 
> *Anderson Gusmão*
> Telefone: (81) 9630.8494
> E-mail: andergus...@gmail.com <mailto:andergus...@gmail.com>
>
>
> "A maneira de ajudar os outros é provar-lhes que eles são capazes de
> pensar."
> (Dom Hélder Câmara)



Re: Skype não instala no debian 8.4

2016-05-17 Thread Anderson Gusm@o
Em 18 de maio de 2016 00:59, Anderson Gusm@o <andergus...@gmail.com>
escreveu:

> Olá galerinha... peço ajuda de vocês. pois o skype não esta sendo
> instalado no debian 04. fico no aguardo
> desde já agradeço.
> abraços
>
> --
> *Anderson Gusmão*
> Telefone: (81) 9630.8494
> E-mail: andergus...@gmail.com
>
>
> "A maneira de ajudar os outros é provar-lhes que eles são capazes de
> pensar."
> (Dom Hélder Câmara)
>



-- 
*Anderson Gusmão*
Telefone: (81) 9630.8494
E-mail: andergus...@gmail.com


"A maneira de ajudar os outros é provar-lhes que eles são capazes de
pensar."
(Dom Hélder Câmara)


Skype não instala no debian 8.4

2016-05-17 Thread Anderson Gusm@o
Olá galerinha... peço ajuda de vocês. pois o skype não esta sendo instalado
no debian 04. fico no aguardo
desde já agradeço.
abraços

-- 
*Anderson Gusmão*
Telefone: (81) 9630.8494
E-mail: andergus...@gmail.com


"A maneira de ajudar os outros é provar-lhes que eles são capazes de
pensar."
(Dom Hélder Câmara)


Som Skype

2016-03-27 Thread Manoel Pedro de Araújo
Olá, Estou sem som no Skype ele não reconhecer os drives de som.
Uso Debian Jessie com a interface kde.

Alguém pode me ajudar?

-- 
Manoel


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som skype

2015-12-22 Thread Manoel Pedro de Araújo
Olá tudo bem?

Meu skype está sem som. Como eu devo fazer para configurar.
Nas opções de audio,  o microfone e auto-falante neste não aparece o drives
de audio como antes apareciam.

-- 
Manoel


Re: Pb Skype => Virtualiser

2015-11-09 Thread nicolas . pechon

Le 2015-11-01 10:13, yamo' a écrit :

Salut,

Pierre TOUZEAU a écrit le 30/10/2015 17:50 :

Je viens de réinstaller DEBIAN 8, et ne parviens pas à installer Skype


Peux tu donner le message d'erreur?

Je n'ai pas de soucis avec Skype 4.3.0.37 sur Debian 8.2

Quant à Xfce, la version 4.10 de debian me va bien. Qu'est ce qui
fonctionne mieux en 4.12?


Il semble que le package skype soit incompatible avec gnome. :-(

Pour ma part, j'ai utilisé le tar en static et je l'ai décompressé dans 
/opt.




Re: Pb Skype => Virtualiser

2015-11-09 Thread nicolas . pechon

Le 2015-11-01 13:25, Fabrice Regnier a écrit :

'lut,


Malheureusement, ce n'est dispo qu'à partir de Firefox/Iceweasel 39,
je pense.


   Erreur ! sa marche avec Jessie et iceweasel 38.3.0  à prendre dans
   un autre dépôt ( experimental, mozilla.debian.net ect )

A priori, c'est fonctionnel avec iceweasel 38.2.1 (sauf pour le
partage d'écran).

a+

f.


Je trouve pas le bouton. C'est natif ou il faut installer un module?



Re: Pb Skype => Virtualiser

2015-11-01 Thread Georges

Le Fri, 30 Oct 2015 18:21:43 +0100,

JM a écrit :

> Fri, 30 Oct 2015 17:42:57 +0100
> Pierre TOUZEAU <pierre.touz...@basse-normandie.pref.gouv.fr>
> écrivait :
> 
> > Bonjour,

 Bonjour,

> >  Pour entretenir des liens/conversations/visio avec de la famille à
> > l'étranger, j'utilise skype (sur un poste Win7)
 
Beurk !
 
> Sinon, il y a aussi l'option Hello de Firefox.
> Je l'ai utlisée avec de la famille cet été.
> Famille qui ne jurait que par Skype.
> 
> Malheureusement, ce n'est dispo qu'à partir de Firefox/Iceweasel 39,
> je pense.

  Erreur ! sa marche avec Jessie et iceweasel 38.3.0  à prendre dans
  un autre dépôt ( experimental, mozilla.debian.net ect ) mais il ne
  faut pas utiliser la fenêtre de navigation privé ;-) 

> Mais c'est vraiment très efficace. Et multiplateformes/OS.
 Plus 1 + 2 + 3
 
> > Pierrre




Re: Pb Skype => Virtualiser

2015-11-01 Thread yamo'
Salut,

Pierre TOUZEAU a écrit le 30/10/2015 17:50 :
> Je viens de réinstaller DEBIAN 8, et ne parviens pas à installer Skype

Peux tu donner le message d'erreur?

Je n'ai pas de soucis avec Skype 4.3.0.37 sur Debian 8.2

Quant à Xfce, la version 4.10 de debian me va bien. Qu'est ce qui
fonctionne mieux en 4.12?


-- 
Stéphane



Re: Pb Skype => Virtualiser

2015-11-01 Thread Fabrice Regnier

'lut,


Malheureusement, ce n'est dispo qu'à partir de Firefox/Iceweasel 39,
je pense.


   Erreur ! sa marche avec Jessie et iceweasel 38.3.0  à prendre dans
   un autre dépôt ( experimental, mozilla.debian.net ect )
A priori, c'est fonctionnel avec iceweasel 38.2.1 (sauf pour le partage 
d'écran).


a+

f.



Re: Pb Skype => Virtualiser

2015-10-30 Thread zulian
Le vendredi 30 octobre 2015, 17:53:33 Bernard Schoenacker a écrit :
> Le Fri, 30 Oct 2015 17:42:57 +0100,
> 
> Pierre TOUZEAU <pierre.touz...@basse-normandie.pref.gouv.fr> a écrit :
> > Bonjour,
> > 
> >  Pour entretenir des liens/conversations/visio avec de la famille à
> > 
> > l'étranger, j'utilise skype (sur un poste Win7)
> > 
> > Je viens de réinstaller DEBIAN 8, et ne parviens pas à installer Skype
> > J'ai essayé  pleins de façons différentes (sauf le downgrading en
> > modifiant le pin-priority
> > <http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/88843/skype-install-debian-amd64-> 
> > > libdbus-issues>), ils semblent rester une incompatibilité avec un paquet
> > déjà installé (Xfce que j'ai upgradé en 4.12 ?)
> > Bref, je peux faire une reinstall de DEBIAN8 avec skype immédiatement
> > après, mais je ne suis pas sûr, à terme, d'avoir une install
> > fonctionnelle et correcte.
> > 
> > Je n'ai pas testé et ne crois que Wine en multi-arch parvienne à faire
> > tourner Skype, peut-être me trompe-je...
> > 
> > Bref, je me tâte pour tester une virtualisation d'un Win7 (j'ai la
> > licence et le DVD, le proc est un Intel Q9300), seulement, je n'ai
> > jamais fait.
> > Je vais creuser le sujet mais me sens pas trop le courage de tester
> > lesXEN, KVM, QEMU, VirtualBox, Xvirt
> > <https://wiki.debian.org/fr/SystemVirtualization>,...
> > Y a t'il des outils plus simples que d'autres pour mon besoin ?
> > 
> > Merci et à lundi si le cœur vous en dit ;-)
> > 
> > Pierrre
> 
> bonjour,
> 
> voici un tutoriel :
> https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E26217_01/E35193/html/qs-create-vm.html
> 
> slt
> bernard

Bonjour,

Virtualbox en mode graphique est  particulièrement simple à installer et à 
configurer.

En validant tout par défaut sans config particulière  la VM de seven  
fonctionnera. Ce ne sera pas l'ideal mais tu auras une VM fonctionnelle. La 
seule config à faire est celle du réseau de la VM.

Concernant Skype, Je l'utilise sur une debian unstable. 
avec xfce4  4.12.1 et skype:i386 4.3.0.37-1

A partir de 
http://www.skype.com/fr/download-skype/skype-for-linux/downloading/?type=debian32


Je suis récement passé de skype à jitsi.

https://jitsi.org/

Il est moins du coté obscur de la Force :-)


--

Frédéric Zulian



Pb Skype => Virtualiser

2015-10-30 Thread Pierre TOUZEAU
Bonjour,

 Pour entretenir des liens/conversations/visio avec de la famille à
l'étranger, j'utilise skype (sur un poste Win7)

Je viens de réinstaller DEBIAN 8, et ne parviens pas à installer Skype
J'ai essayé  pleins de façons différentes (sauf le downgrading en
modifiant le pin-priority
<http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/88843/skype-install-debian-amd64-libdbus-issues>),
ils semblent rester une incompatibilité avec un paquet déjà installé
(Xfce que j'ai upgradé en 4.12 ?)
Bref, je peux faire une reinstall de DEBIAN8 avec skype immédiatement
après, mais je ne suis pas sûr, à terme, d'avoir une install
fonctionnelle et correcte.

Je n'ai pas testé et ne crois que Wine en multi-arch parvienne à faire
tourner Skype, peut-être me trompe-je...

Bref, je me tâte pour tester une virtualisation d'un Win7 (j'ai la
licence et le DVD, le proc est un Intel Q9300), seulement, je n'ai
jamais fait.
Je vais creuser le sujet mais me sens pas trop le courage de tester
lesXEN, KVM, QEMU, VirtualBox, Xvirt
<https://wiki.debian.org/fr/SystemVirtualization>,...
Y a t'il des outils plus simples que d'autres pour mon besoin ?

Merci et à lundi si le cœur vous en dit ;-)

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Re: Pb Skype => Virtualiser

2015-10-30 Thread filorin
Salut,

Pour moi, le mieux c'est d'essayer d'installer Skype en natif sur Debian.

L'utilisation de machine virtuelle (Virtual Box) m'a posé des problèmes
avec Skype tournant sur un Windows 8.1 virtualisé : webcam non reconnue
et crashs de la VM.
Je crois que Jitsi, n'est pas compatible avec Skype.

filorin
https://filorin.fr

Le 30/10/2015 19:25, Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit :
> Le Fri, 30 Oct 2015 17:42:57 +0100
> Pierre TOUZEAU <pierre.touz...@basse-normandie.pref.gouv.fr> a écrit:
> 
>> Bonjour,
>>
>>  Pour entretenir des liens/conversations/visio avec de la famille à
>> l'étranger, j'utilise skype (sur un poste Win7)
>>
>> Je viens de réinstaller DEBIAN 8, et ne parviens pas à installer Skype
>> J'ai essayé  pleins de façons différentes (sauf le downgrading en
>> modifiant le pin-priority
>> <http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/88843/skype-install-debian-amd64-libdbus-issues>),
>> ils semblent rester une incompatibilité avec un paquet déjà installé
>> (Xfce que j'ai upgradé en 4.12 ?)
>> Bref, je peux faire une reinstall de DEBIAN8 avec skype immédiatement
>> après, mais je ne suis pas sûr, à terme, d'avoir une install
>> fonctionnelle et correcte.
>>
> 
> Au boulot j'ai une debian 8 + backports et le paquet skype s'installe sans
> problème. Après au lancement il lui manque une lib je n'ai pas plus creusé
> c'était la fin de la journée...
> Sinon chez moi sur une testing skype est fonctionnel pas souvenir d'avoir fait
> de bizarreries pour l'installer.
> 
> Gaëtan
> 



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Re: Pb Skype => Virtualiser

2015-10-30 Thread cont...@baal.fr

bonjour la liste

je sais que c'est une alternative mais :

moi j'utilise firefox hello

https://www.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/hello/

firefox est simple à installer sous debian

http://linuxconfig.org/simple-firefox-web-browser-installation-on-debian-8-jessie-linux

je fuis skype parceque suite au rachat par micro$oft je crait ne plus 
avoir de nouvelle version de skype


sinon j'utilise aussi jabberd sur un serveur perso



Le 30/10/2015 18:21, Jean-Marc a écrit :

Fri, 30 Oct 2015 17:42:57 +0100
Pierre TOUZEAU <pierre.touz...@basse-normandie.pref.gouv.fr> écrivait :


Bonjour,

  Pour entretenir des liens/conversations/visio avec de la famille à
l'étranger, j'utilise skype (sur un poste Win7)


Sinon, il y a aussi l'option Hello de Firefox.
Je l'ai utlisée avec de la famille cet été.
Famille qui ne jurait que par Skype.

Malheureusement, ce n'est dispo qu'à partir de Firefox/Iceweasel 39, je pense.

Mais c'est vraiment très efficace. Et multiplateformes/OS.


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Re: Pb Skype => Virtualiser

2015-10-30 Thread Jean-Marc
Fri, 30 Oct 2015 17:42:57 +0100
Pierre TOUZEAU <pierre.touz...@basse-normandie.pref.gouv.fr> écrivait :

> Bonjour,
> 
>  Pour entretenir des liens/conversations/visio avec de la famille à
> l'étranger, j'utilise skype (sur un poste Win7)
> 

Sinon, il y a aussi l'option Hello de Firefox.
Je l'ai utlisée avec de la famille cet été.
Famille qui ne jurait que par Skype.

Malheureusement, ce n'est dispo qu'à partir de Firefox/Iceweasel 39, je pense.

Mais c'est vraiment très efficace. Et multiplateformes/OS.

> 
> Pierrre
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Re: Pb Skype => Virtualiser

2015-10-30 Thread Bernard Schoenacker
Le Fri, 30 Oct 2015 18:21:43 +0100,
Jean-Marc <jean-m...@6jf.be> a écrit :

> Fri, 30 Oct 2015 17:42:57 +0100
> Pierre TOUZEAU <pierre.touz...@basse-normandie.pref.gouv.fr>
> écrivait :
> 
> > Bonjour,
> > 
> >  Pour entretenir des liens/conversations/visio avec de la famille à
> > l'étranger, j'utilise skype (sur un poste Win7)
> >   
> 
> Sinon, il y a aussi l'option Hello de Firefox.
> Je l'ai utlisée avec de la famille cet été.
> Famille qui ne jurait que par Skype.
> 
> Malheureusement, ce n'est dispo qu'à partir de Firefox/Iceweasel 39,
> je pense.
> 
> Mais c'est vraiment très efficace. Et multiplateformes/OS.
> 
> > 
> > Pierrre
> > --   
> 
> Jean-Marc <jean-m...@6jf.be>

bonjour

il reste encore jitsi : https://jitsi.org/Main/Download

slt
bernard



Re: Pb Skype => Virtualiser

2015-10-30 Thread Bernard Schoenacker
Le Fri, 30 Oct 2015 17:42:57 +0100,
Pierre TOUZEAU <pierre.touz...@basse-normandie.pref.gouv.fr> a écrit :

> Bonjour,
> 
>  Pour entretenir des liens/conversations/visio avec de la famille à
> l'étranger, j'utilise skype (sur un poste Win7)
> 
> Je viens de réinstaller DEBIAN 8, et ne parviens pas à installer Skype
> J'ai essayé  pleins de façons différentes (sauf le downgrading en
> modifiant le pin-priority
> <http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/88843/skype-install-debian-amd64-libdbus-issues>),
> ils semblent rester une incompatibilité avec un paquet déjà installé
> (Xfce que j'ai upgradé en 4.12 ?)
> Bref, je peux faire une reinstall de DEBIAN8 avec skype immédiatement
> après, mais je ne suis pas sûr, à terme, d'avoir une install
> fonctionnelle et correcte.
> 
> Je n'ai pas testé et ne crois que Wine en multi-arch parvienne à faire
> tourner Skype, peut-être me trompe-je...
> 
> Bref, je me tâte pour tester une virtualisation d'un Win7 (j'ai la
> licence et le DVD, le proc est un Intel Q9300), seulement, je n'ai
> jamais fait.
> Je vais creuser le sujet mais me sens pas trop le courage de tester
> lesXEN, KVM, QEMU, VirtualBox, Xvirt
> <https://wiki.debian.org/fr/SystemVirtualization>,...
> Y a t'il des outils plus simples que d'autres pour mon besoin ?
> 
> Merci et à lundi si le cœur vous en dit ;-)
> 
> Pierrre

bonjour,

pour skype : https://wiki.debian.org/fr/skype

attention c'est un peut la planche savonneuse

slt
bernard



Re: Pb Skype => Virtualiser

2015-10-30 Thread Bernard Schoenacker
Le Fri, 30 Oct 2015 17:42:57 +0100,
Pierre TOUZEAU <pierre.touz...@basse-normandie.pref.gouv.fr> a écrit :

> Bonjour,
> 
>  Pour entretenir des liens/conversations/visio avec de la famille à
> l'étranger, j'utilise skype (sur un poste Win7)
> 
> Je viens de réinstaller DEBIAN 8, et ne parviens pas à installer Skype
> J'ai essayé  pleins de façons différentes (sauf le downgrading en
> modifiant le pin-priority
> <http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/88843/skype-install-debian-amd64-libdbus-issues>),
> ils semblent rester une incompatibilité avec un paquet déjà installé
> (Xfce que j'ai upgradé en 4.12 ?)
> Bref, je peux faire une reinstall de DEBIAN8 avec skype immédiatement
> après, mais je ne suis pas sûr, à terme, d'avoir une install
> fonctionnelle et correcte.
> 
> Je n'ai pas testé et ne crois que Wine en multi-arch parvienne à faire
> tourner Skype, peut-être me trompe-je...
> 
> Bref, je me tâte pour tester une virtualisation d'un Win7 (j'ai la
> licence et le DVD, le proc est un Intel Q9300), seulement, je n'ai
> jamais fait.
> Je vais creuser le sujet mais me sens pas trop le courage de tester
> lesXEN, KVM, QEMU, VirtualBox, Xvirt
> <https://wiki.debian.org/fr/SystemVirtualization>,...
> Y a t'il des outils plus simples que d'autres pour mon besoin ?
> 
> Merci et à lundi si le cœur vous en dit ;-)
> 
> Pierrre

bonjour,

voici un tutoriel :
https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E26217_01/E35193/html/qs-create-vm.html

slt
bernard



Re: Pb Skype => Virtualiser

2015-10-30 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER
Le Fri, 30 Oct 2015 17:42:57 +0100
Pierre TOUZEAU <pierre.touz...@basse-normandie.pref.gouv.fr> a écrit:

> Bonjour,
> 
>  Pour entretenir des liens/conversations/visio avec de la famille à
> l'étranger, j'utilise skype (sur un poste Win7)
> 
> Je viens de réinstaller DEBIAN 8, et ne parviens pas à installer Skype
> J'ai essayé  pleins de façons différentes (sauf le downgrading en
> modifiant le pin-priority
> <http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/88843/skype-install-debian-amd64-libdbus-issues>),
> ils semblent rester une incompatibilité avec un paquet déjà installé
> (Xfce que j'ai upgradé en 4.12 ?)
> Bref, je peux faire une reinstall de DEBIAN8 avec skype immédiatement
> après, mais je ne suis pas sûr, à terme, d'avoir une install
> fonctionnelle et correcte.
> 

Au boulot j'ai une debian 8 + backports et le paquet skype s'installe sans
problème. Après au lancement il lui manque une lib je n'ai pas plus creusé
c'était la fin de la journée...
Sinon chez moi sur une testing skype est fonctionnel pas souvenir d'avoir fait
de bizarreries pour l'installer.

Gaëtan



Re: Skype video question

2015-06-01 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Mon, 2015-06-01 at 05:45 -0400, Haines Brown wrote:
 No luck. When I try to establish a connection, the interface still comes up
 with the camera icon crossed out. I assume that this icon should not be
 crossed out at any time, even before contact is made.

Have you enabled the camera in the settings and restarted Skype?

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Re: Skype video question

2015-06-01 Thread Haines Brown
On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 01:22:49AM +0200, Kailash Kalyani wrote:
 
 
 On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 12:49 AM, Haines Brown hai...@histomat.net wrote:
 
 I used to run skype without a problem, but now when someone calls, they
 can hear and see me. I can hear but cannot see them.
 
 Try this:
 
 LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libv4l/v4l1compat.so /usr/bin/skype
 src: https://wiki.debian.org/skype

I am in video group, lib4l-0 library is installed and I replaced the line
Exec=skype %U with the line 
Exec=LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libv4l/v4l1compat.so /usr/bin/skype %U
in /usr/local/applications/skype.desktop.

No luck. When I try to establish a connection, the interface still comes up
with the camera icon crossed out. I assume that this icon should not be
crossed out at any time, even before contact is made.

I notice that besides the crossed out video camera, to the left of the
interface is the IM symbol. Does this mean that the communication mode
I'm trying to establish is IM, not video? Under General Options, enabled
is call rather than chat. 

I notice now that the contact with whom the problem first came up has a
little blue video camera icon to the far right in my list of
contacts. That icon is missing for another contact. What does this icon
mean?




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Re: Skype video question

2015-06-01 Thread deloptes
Haines Brown wrote:

which version of skype are you using and on what system?

 No luck. When I try to establish a connection, the interface still comes
 up with the camera icon crossed out. I assume that this icon should not be
 crossed out at any time, even before contact is made.

if it is grey and crossed while dialing it is ok. when call is established
the other party may enable video and then you see the normal icon

 
 I notice that besides the crossed out video camera, to the left of the
 interface is the IM symbol. Does this mean that the communication mode
 I'm trying to establish is IM, not video? Under General Options, enabled
 is call rather than chat.

no - it looks like you never used skype, man. the symbol means chat - you
can start chat by pressing it with the person you are talking to.

 
 I notice now that the contact with whom the problem first came up has a
 little blue video camera icon to the far right in my list of
 contacts. That icon is missing for another contact. What does this icon
 mean?

It means that the person has video camera setup and you can do a video call

Does the people you can not make video call have camera and can make video
call to other people using skype?

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Skype video question

2015-05-31 Thread Haines Brown
I used to run skype without a problem, but now when someone calls, they
can hear and see me. I can hear but cannot see them. My video camera is
working fine. I installed guvcview and it has no trouble using my
camera.  When I go to Skype, options, video device, I see that video is
enabled and I see myself.

But when I try to skype someone, the camera icon on the interface is
crossed out. And the camera LED does not come on at the beginning. The
interface proceeds to allow me to leave a voice message.


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Re: Skype video question

2015-05-31 Thread Kailash Kalyani
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 12:49 AM, Haines Brown hai...@histomat.net wrote:

 I used to run skype without a problem, but now when someone calls, they
 can hear and see me. I can hear but cannot see them. My video camera is
 working fine. I installed guvcview and it has no trouble using my
 camera.  When I go to Skype, options, video device, I see that video is
 enabled and I see myself.

 But when I try to skype someone, the camera icon on the interface is
 crossed out. And the camera LED does not come on at the beginning. The
 interface proceeds to allow me to leave a voice message.

 Have you seen this?
*Question:* Why can't skype use my webcam?
*Answer:* You probably need to preload v4l compatibility.

Try this:

LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libv4l/v4l1compat.so /usr/bin/skype
src: https://wiki.debian.org/skype

 HTH,
Kailash

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skype pauses vlc

2015-05-14 Thread Paul Seyfert
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Hi,

since i upgraded from wheezie to jessie I observe that skype is able to
pause vlc as follows:

vlc plays music
skype is online
someone writes me a message
vlc pauses and skype makes its blub-sound to notify me about the message
vlc stays paused

The same happens for any other audible notification by skype.
While this seems actually quite convenient for incoming calls, this is
particularly annyoing when texting with someone [1].

vlc also gets paused when hitting the play test sound button in the
skype configuration.

Any hints how to prevent skype from sending pause signals?

Thanks,
Paul


[1] yes, i /could/ disable sound notifications of skype. i already
disabled those for 'someone in your buddy list came online'. Yet, i
would favour if skype continued making blub upon incoming messages and
vlc would just continue playing.
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Re: skype pauses vlc

2015-05-14 Thread Paulo Roberto
Hi Paul and Raph,
In my case there is a behavior not so stable.
Some times the Skype pause the audio in VLC and it does not resume and some
times it resumes.
I'm using the new testing.


On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Ralph Katz ralph.k...@rcn.com wrote:

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 On 05/14/2015 08:50 AM, Paul Seyfert wrote [snipped]:

  Hi,
   since i upgraded from wheezie to jessie I observe that skype is able to
  pause vlc as follows:
 
  vlc plays music
  skype is online
  someone writes me a message
  vlc pauses and skype makes its blub-sound to notify me about the
 message
  vlc stays paused

  vlc also gets paused when hitting the play test sound button in the
  skype configuration.
 
  Any hints how to prevent skype from sending pause signals?

 Hi Paul -- For me, vlc resumes after skype.  Perhaps tinkering with
 pulseaudio can help?  I have not touched any settings.   aplay file.wav
 does not get paused.  Hope this helps.

 Regards,
 Ralph


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Re: skype pauses vlc

2015-05-14 Thread Ralph Katz
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On 05/14/2015 08:50 AM, Paul Seyfert wrote [snipped]:

 Hi,
  since i upgraded from wheezie to jessie I observe that skype is able to
 pause vlc as follows:
 
 vlc plays music
 skype is online
 someone writes me a message
 vlc pauses and skype makes its blub-sound to notify me about the message
 vlc stays paused

 vlc also gets paused when hitting the play test sound button in the
 skype configuration.
 
 Any hints how to prevent skype from sending pause signals?

Hi Paul -- For me, vlc resumes after skype.  Perhaps tinkering with
pulseaudio can help?  I have not touched any settings.   aplay file.wav
does not get paused.  Hope this helps.

Regards,
Ralph


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Re: skype pauses vlc

2015-05-14 Thread Maxim Karpenko
Hi all,

I also had this issue, and till now didn't pay attention to it. Just made
some searching and then tried by myself:
this is PulseAudio issue, and commenting string load-module
module-role-cork in /etc/pulse/default.pa fixes it. After that restart
pusleaudio process and also all apps that use pulseaudio (i.e. skype and
vlc).

Regards,
Max

2015-05-14 20:06 GMT+03:00 Paulo Roberto betobran...@gmail.com:

 Hi Paul and Raph,
 In my case there is a behavior not so stable.
 Some times the Skype pause the audio in VLC and it does not resume and
 some times it resumes.
 I'm using the new testing.


 On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Ralph Katz ralph.k...@rcn.com wrote:

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 On 05/14/2015 08:50 AM, Paul Seyfert wrote [snipped]:

  Hi,
   since i upgraded from wheezie to jessie I observe that skype is able
 to
  pause vlc as follows:
 
  vlc plays music
  skype is online
  someone writes me a message
  vlc pauses and skype makes its blub-sound to notify me about the
 message
  vlc stays paused

  vlc also gets paused when hitting the play test sound button in the
  skype configuration.
 
  Any hints how to prevent skype from sending pause signals?

 Hi Paul -- For me, vlc resumes after skype.  Perhaps tinkering with
 pulseaudio can help?  I have not touched any settings.   aplay file.wav
 does not get paused.  Hope this helps.

 Regards,
 Ralph


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Re: skype pauses vlc [solved]

2015-05-14 Thread Paul Seyfert
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 this is PulseAudio issue, and commenting string load-module
 module-role-cork in /etc/pulse/default.pa fixes it. After that restart
 pusleaudio process and also all apps that use pulseaudio (i.e. skype and
 vlc).

Hi Max,

exactly what i was looking for!

Thanks,
Paul
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Skype, Pulseaudio, very quite output from a speaker

2015-02-15 Thread German
Hi people.

Just installed Skype and when I make a test call, I got very quite output from 
the speakers. Is this bevaviour normal? I mean if I call someone would they 
hear me clear. I know, I really have to call someone, but don't have this 
opportunity as fo yet. Thanks for your thoughts.

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Re: Skype, Pulseaudio, very quite output from a speaker

2015-02-15 Thread Ron
On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 06:37:04 -0500
German gentger...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just installed Skype and when I make a test call, I got very quite output 
 from the speakers. Is this bevaviour normal? I mean if I call someone would 
 they hear me clear. I know, I really have to call someone, but don't have 
 this opportunity as fo yet. Thanks for your thoughts.

I solved the same problem by setting the output volume in pavucontrol.
 
Cheers,
 
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Re: Skype, Pulseaudio, very quite output from a speaker ( fixed)

2015-02-15 Thread German
Here is the fix:



Skype has been known to mess up the mixer settings. So disable the 
automatic configuration of the mixer controls in Skype: right-click with your 
mouse on the Skype icon in the system tray - Options - Sound Devices - remove 
the tick at: Allow Skype to automatically adjust my mixer levels. Click Apply. 
Then close Skype (right-click with your mouse on the Skype icon - Quit).

Then use Synaptic Package Manager to install pavucontrol (Pulse Audio 
Volume Controller). Use that application to set up your input device. Most 
built-in mics are mono. The default setting on the Input Control is to lock the 
RL channel together. By reading the mono mic as stereo, PulseAudio cancels the 
input. Click on the middle button on the upper right of the control panel to 
unlock the RL channel. Move either the left or right channel to 10 leaving the 
other channel about 90. You should now see the VU meter sensing sound. Now 
start Skype again. The test call should register your voice now.




On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 09:03:38 -0300
Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org wrote:

 On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 06:37:04 -0500
 German gentger...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Just installed Skype and when I make a test call, I got very quite output 
  from the speakers. Is this bevaviour normal? I mean if I call someone would 
  they hear me clear. I know, I really have to call someone, but don't have 
  this opportunity as fo yet. Thanks for your thoughts.
 
 I solved the same problem by setting the output volume in pavucontrol.
  
 Cheers,
  
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Re: Skype, Pulseaudio, very quite output from a speaker

2015-02-15 Thread German
On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 09:03:38 -0300
Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org wrote:

 On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 06:37:04 -0500
 German gentger...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Just installed Skype and when I make a test call, I got very quite output 
  from the speakers. Is this bevaviour normal? I mean if I call someone would 
  they hear me clear. I know, I really have to call someone, but don't have 
  this opportunity as fo yet. Thanks for your thoughts.
 
 I solved the same problem by setting the output volume in pavucontrol.

I've put my output to 153% and got somewhat better, but still very quite. 
Besides, Skype greetings and overall system sounds became very loud. Just for 
the heck of it, I installed Audicity and tried to record my voice. It was loud 
and clear.
So, I think that something to do with Pulsaudio and mic. I also have some 
cranking sounds


  
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can't install skype 4.3 on jessie

2015-01-11 Thread David Zelinsky
Since Skype 4.2 stopped working, I've been trying unsuccessfully to
install 4.3 on my amd64 laptop running jessie.  The problem seems to be
a dependency on libmp3lame0:i386, which has some issue with conflicting
versions numbers between the :amd64 and :i386 architectures.  But maybe
I'm not understanding something.  Anyway, how can I get around this and
get Skype to work?

I have multiarch support enabled:

| % dpkg --print-architecture
| amd64
| % dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
| i386

And here's what happens:

| % gdebi skype-debian_4.3.0.37-1_i386.deb
[...]
| This package is uninstallable
| Cannot install 'libasound2-plugins:i386'

So I tried this:

| % apt install libasound2-plugins:i386
[...]
| The following packages have unmet dependencies:
|  libasound2-plugins:i386 : Depends: libavcodec56:i386 (= 6:11~beta1) but it 
is not going to be installed or
| libavcodec-extra-56:i386 (= 6:11~beta1) 
but it is not going to be installed
| E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

Both of these libavcodec packages depend on libmp3lame0:i386 which apt
says is not going to be installed.  And here's what I get when I try
to install it:

| % apt install libmp3lame0:i386
[...]
| The following packages have unmet dependencies:
|  libmp3lame0 : Breaks: libmp3lame0:i386 (!= 1:3.99.5-dmo1) but 
3.99.5+repack1-5 is to be installed
|  libmp3lame0:i386 : Breaks: libmp3lame0 (!= 3.99.5+repack1-5) but 
1:3.99.5-dmo1 is to be installed
|  pulseaudio : Depends: libasound2-plugins but it is not going to be installed
| E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by 
held packages.

Maybe it would work if I first removed libmp3lame0, but quite a few
important packages depend on it, so I can't do that.

What should I do??

Thanks for any help.

-David


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Re: can't install skype 4.3 on jessie

2015-01-11 Thread Hans
Am Sonntag, 11. Januar 2015, 12:18:16 schrieb David Zelinsky:
 Since Skype 4.2 stopped working, I've been trying unsuccessfully to
 install 4.3 on my amd64 laptop running jessie.  The problem seems to be
 a dependency on libmp3lame0:i386, which has some issue with conflicting
 versions numbers between the :amd64 and :i386 architectures.  But maybe
 I'm not understanding something.  Anyway, how can I get around this and
 get Skype to work?


Before you upgrade to skype-4.3, please note, it needs pulseaudio! If you do 
not want to install pulseaudio, then use my workaround, I described here in 
this forum. 

Good luck!

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Re: can't install skype 4.3 on jessie

2015-01-11 Thread Hans

 Thanks for the suggestion.  Assuming you mean this workaround (which you
 posted in August):
 
 - Install the 4.2 package.
 - start a hexeditor and open the file /usr/bin/skype
 - search for 4.2.0.11 and change this to 4.3.0.37
 - save the file
 - restart skype and
 - voila! It is now connecting to the server again!
 
 I tried this, but Skype would still not connect.  Does it still work for
 you?  Maybe they've got wise to this and now check something else?  I
 also found a string /contentbundle/linux-4.2.0.0-2374.bin and changed
 /contentbundle/linux-4.3.0.0-3390.bin, which is what I found in the
 4.3 binary.  Still doesn't connect (:
 
 -David

No, this one is no more active. Microsoft reacted some weeks after my hack.
But you can do this:

- Extract the skype binary from 4.3
- start it once, then connect to skype, but activate autmatically connection 
(so that you do not unconnect from the server)
- now start skype-4.2 and you should be automatically reconnected.


Whenever you get disconnected from skype, you can repeat this procdure.

Have fun!

Hans



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Re: can't install skype 4.3 on jessie

2015-01-11 Thread David Zelinsky
Hans hans.ullr...@loop.de writes:

 Am Sonntag, 11. Januar 2015, 12:18:16 schrieb David Zelinsky:
 Since Skype 4.2 stopped working, I've been trying unsuccessfully to
 install 4.3 on my amd64 laptop running jessie.  The problem seems to be
 a dependency on libmp3lame0:i386, which has some issue with conflicting
 versions numbers between the :amd64 and :i386 architectures.  But maybe
 I'm not understanding something.  Anyway, how can I get around this and
 get Skype to work?


 Before you upgrade to skype-4.3, please note, it needs pulseaudio! If you do 
 not want to install pulseaudio, then use my workaround, I described here in 
 this forum. 

Thanks for the suggestion.  Assuming you mean this workaround (which you
posted in August):

- Install the 4.2 package.
- start a hexeditor and open the file /usr/bin/skype
- search for 4.2.0.11 and change this to 4.3.0.37
- save the file
- restart skype and 
- voila! It is now connecting to the server again!

I tried this, but Skype would still not connect.  Does it still work for
you?  Maybe they've got wise to this and now check something else?  I
also found a string /contentbundle/linux-4.2.0.0-2374.bin and changed
/contentbundle/linux-4.3.0.0-3390.bin, which is what I found in the
4.3 binary.  Still doesn't connect (:

-David


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Re: can't install skype 4.3 on jessie

2015-01-11 Thread Mark Carroll
David Zelinsky dzp...@dedekind.net writes:

 Since Skype 4.2 stopped working, I've been trying unsuccessfully to
 install 4.3 on my amd64 laptop running jessie.  The problem seems to be
 a dependency on libmp3lame0:i386, which has some issue with conflicting
 versions numbers between the :amd64 and :i386 architectures.  But maybe
 I'm not understanding something.  Anyway, how can I get around this and
 get Skype to work?

There's probably a much better way to solve this with multi-arch, but I
took the easy route of installing Skype inside a 32-bit chroot (with the
help of schroot) and that is working just fine.

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Re: can't install skype 4.3 on jessie

2015-01-11 Thread David Zelinsky
Hans hans.ullr...@loop.de writes:

 Thanks for the suggestion.  Assuming you mean this workaround (which you
 posted in August):
 
 - Install the 4.2 package.
 - start a hexeditor and open the file /usr/bin/skype
 - search for 4.2.0.11 and change this to 4.3.0.37
 - save the file
 - restart skype and
 - voila! It is now connecting to the server again!
 
 I tried this, but Skype would still not connect.  Does it still work for
 you?  Maybe they've got wise to this and now check something else?  I
 also found a string /contentbundle/linux-4.2.0.0-2374.bin and changed
 /contentbundle/linux-4.3.0.0-3390.bin, which is what I found in the
 4.3 binary.  Still doesn't connect (:
 
 -David

 No, this one is no more active. Microsoft reacted some weeks after my hack.
 But you can do this:

 - Extract the skype binary from 4.3
 - start it once, then connect to skype, but activate autmatically 
 connection 
 (so that you do not unconnect from the server)
 - now start skype-4.2 and you should be automatically reconnected.


 Whenever you get disconnected from skype, you can repeat this procdure.

Thanks, that works!

Just to clarify a couple things, in case others see this and had some of
the same confusion I did at first:

1. The extracted skype-4.3 binary does run, but the sound does not work
since the audio dependencies weren't installed.

2. By activate automatically connect, you meant to check the box
labeled Sign me in when Skype starts on the login page.


So now I have skype-4.2 working again!  However, I would still like to
know how to fix the problem installing libmp3lame0:i386, on which
skype-4.3 depends (by way of libasound2-plugins:i386).

-David


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Re: can't install skype 4.3 on jessie

2015-01-11 Thread Mark Carroll
Hans hans.ullr...@loop.de writes:

 Am Sonntag, 11. Januar 2015, 17:01:18 schrieb David Zelinsky:
(snip)
 1. The extracted skype-4.3 binary does run, but the sound does not work
 since the audio dependencies weren't installed.

 Yes, just because you need pulseaudio. As many people got problems with 
 pulseaudio (including myself), I don't want to install pulseaudio. Alsa is 
 working great, so why change?
(snip)

For me https://github.com/i-rinat/apulse works fine with Skype and
ALSA's plughw devices: PulseAudio emulation for ALSA.

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