Re: nVidia MCP55 (was: Slow internet on AMD64 running Etch)

2007-03-30 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 04:56:28PM -0700, Dave Stephenson wrote:
 On Mar 27, 5:50 pm, Wayne Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Dave Stephenson([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
 
 
 
  Did you do /etc/init/d/networking force-reload
  after adding this to th interfaces file?
 
 
 
 no, I just rebooted

No need. A restart of the particular service/program is all that is
usually required. A kernel upgrade is, if I understand correctly
the only time you need to reboot.

Apparently, most hardware failure occurs when the system is booting.

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Re: nVidia MCP55 (was: Slow internet on AMD64 running Etch)

2007-03-29 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
 Dave Stephenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Mar 27, 4:00 pm, Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Dave Stephenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I feel like I am missing something obvious.
  
   Maybe a 'post-up' is more useful here. And does interfaces accept
   variables? Maybe $IFACE was meant to be replaced by the relevant
   interface name.
  
  post-up works!
  
  I wonder why mahy other sources sugested  pre-up,  Has something
  changed?

On 28.03.07 01:49, Andrei Popescu wrote:
 I only thought if DHCP is the culprit than it would make sense to
 change the MTU *after* you get the settings from the server.

probably because all people expect DHCP to set up MTU properly. I personally
wouldn't play with MTU, and I would expect problems if I change it. Also, I
don't understand why MTU 576 does that big difference compared to 1500...

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Re: nVidia MCP55 (was: Slow internet on AMD64 running Etch)

2007-03-27 Thread Dave Stephenson
Hello again,

MTU 1500 does indeed fix the speed problem, but I can't make it stick.
When i reboot I get MTU 576 again.  I presume DHCP is setting this
somehow.
I have searched around and have tried to put MTU in /etc/network/
interfaces without success.
I have not been able to find an example clear enough for my slow
learning curve.
One site gave an example, but said it was obsolete in Etch.

Can someone point me in thr right direction.

Thanks,
Dave


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Re: nVidia MCP55 (was: Slow internet on AMD64 running Etch)

2007-03-27 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2007-03-27 at 12:43 -0700, Dave Stephenson wrote:
 Hello again,
 
 MTU 1500 does indeed fix the speed problem, but I can't make it stick.
 When i reboot I get MTU 576 again.  I presume DHCP is setting this
 somehow.
 I have searched around and have tried to put MTU in /etc/network/
 interfaces without success.
 I have not been able to find an example clear enough for my slow
 learning curve.
 One site gave an example, but said it was obsolete in Etch.
 
 Can someone point me in thr right direction

http://www.debianadmin.com/change-mtu-maximum-transmission-unit-of-network-interface.html

Or something like /etc/network/interfaces 

face eth0 inet dhcp
pre-up /sbin/ifconfig $IFACE mtu 500

Hope that helps.
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Re: nVidia MCP55 (was: Slow internet on AMD64 running Etch)

2007-03-27 Thread Dave Stephenson
I feel like I am missing something obvious.

here is my  interfaces file:


# The loopback network interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

# The primary network interface
#allow-hotplug eth0
#iface eth0 inet dhcp

auto eth0

#force higher speed in spite of signal peak  dhcp
#mtu 1500


iface eth0 inet dhcp
pre-up /sbin/ifconfig $IFACE mtu 1500


and here is the result of ifconfig:

eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:18:F3:86:8C:92
  inet addr:192.168.0.7  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:
255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:576  Metric:1
  RX packets:1135 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:1112 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:327004 (319.3 KiB)  TX bytes:126844 (123.8 KiB)
  Interrupt:58 Base address:0xe000

I tried moving the auto eth0 line around, but that either did nothing
or broke the network.

Thanks again,
Dave


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Re: nVidia MCP55 (was: Slow internet on AMD64 running Etch)

2007-03-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
Dave Stephenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I feel like I am missing something obvious.
 

Maybe a 'post-up' is more useful here. And does interfaces accept
variables? Maybe $IFACE was meant to be replaced by the relevant
interface name.

HTH,
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Re: nVidia MCP55 (was: Slow internet on AMD64 running Etch)

2007-03-27 Thread Dave Stephenson
On Mar 27, 4:00 pm, Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dave Stephenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I feel like I am missing something obvious.

 Maybe a 'post-up' is more useful here. And does interfaces accept
 variables? Maybe $IFACE was meant to be replaced by the relevant
 interface name.

post-up works!

I wonder why mahy other sources sugested  pre-up,  Has something
changed?

Thanks again,
Dave


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Re: nVidia MCP55 (was: Slow internet on AMD64 running Etch)

2007-03-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
Dave Stephenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mar 27, 4:00 pm, Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Dave Stephenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I feel like I am missing something obvious.
 
  Maybe a 'post-up' is more useful here. And does interfaces accept
  variables? Maybe $IFACE was meant to be replaced by the relevant
  interface name.
 
 post-up works!
 
 I wonder why mahy other sources sugested  pre-up,  Has something
 changed?

I only thought if DHCP is the culprit than it would make sense to
change the MTU *after* you get the settings from the server.

Regards,
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Re: nVidia MCP55 (was: Slow internet on AMD64 running Etch)

2007-03-27 Thread Wayne Topa
Dave Stephenson([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
 I feel like I am missing something obvious.
 
 here is my  interfaces file:
 
 
 # The loopback network interface
 auto lo
 iface lo inet loopback
 
 # The primary network interface
 #allow-hotplug eth0
 #iface eth0 inet dhcp
 
 auto eth0
 
 #force higher speed in spite of signal peak  dhcp
 #mtu 1500
 
 
 iface eth0 inet dhcp
 pre-up /sbin/ifconfig $IFACE mtu 1500

Did you do /etc/init/d/networking force-reload
after adding this to th interfaces file?

 
 
 and here is the result of ifconfig:
 
 eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:18:F3:86:8C:92
   inet addr:192.168.0.7  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:
 255.255.255.0
   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:576  Metric:1
   RX packets:1135 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:1112 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
   RX bytes:327004 (319.3 KiB)  TX bytes:126844 (123.8 KiB)
   Interrupt:58 Base address:0xe000

I added the pre-up /sbin/ifconfig $IFACE mtu 1500 and forced-reloaded
and my ifconfig _did_ show the change.

Wayne

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Re: nVidia MCP55 (was: Slow internet on AMD64 running Etch)

2007-03-27 Thread Dave Stephenson
On Mar 27, 5:50 pm, Wayne Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dave Stephenson([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:



 Did you do /etc/init/d/networking force-reload
 after adding this to th interfaces file?



no, I just rebooted

Dave


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Re: Slow internet on AMD64 running Etch

2007-03-25 Thread Dave Stephenson
On Mar 24, 6:20 pm, Florian Kulzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 We should probably start with your network card. You will get a list of
 your (PCI) hardware if you run the command lspci (without quotes) from
 a terminal or a console. Please do this and copy the line(s) which
 are related to networking/ethernet into a mail to this list.

 Somebody might know if this specific hardware has any issues, and
 otherwise we will just proceed by checking if you have the correct
 driver module loaded, etc.

 Another thing that might help is the output of the command

 /sbin/ifconfig

Thanks,

The network interface is integrated into the Asus M2N-e motherboard

from lspci:
00:08.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP55 Ethernet (rev a2)

from ifconfig
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:18:F3:86:8C:92
  inet addr:192.168.0.7  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:
255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:576  Metric:1
  RX packets:36594 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:29243 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:15710931 (14.9 MiB)  TX bytes:3214944 (3.0 MiB)
  Interrupt:50 Base address:0x4000

loLink encap:Local Loopback
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
  RX packets:84 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:84 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
  RX bytes:18472 (18.0 KiB)  TX bytes:18472 (18.0 KiB)

Dave


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nVidia MCP55 (was: Slow internet on AMD64 running Etch)

2007-03-25 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 07:24:25 -0700, Dave Stephenson wrote:

[...]

 The network interface is integrated into the Asus M2N-e motherboard
 
 from lspci:
 00:08.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP55 Ethernet (rev a2)
 
 from ifconfig
 eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:18:F3:86:8C:92
   inet addr:192.168.0.7  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:
 255.255.255.0
   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:576  Metric:1
   RX packets:36594 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:29243 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
   RX bytes:15710931 (14.9 MiB)  TX bytes:3214944 (3.0 MiB)
   Interrupt:50 Base address:0x4000
 
 loLink encap:Local Loopback
   inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
   inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
   UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
   RX packets:84 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:84 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
   RX bytes:18472 (18.0 KiB)  TX bytes:18472 (18.0 KiB)

That looks normal to me. Your card should be supported by the
forcedeth module. If I understand your previous email correctly then
you have high transfer rates on your internal network, so maybe your
slow external connection is not a hardware/driver issue. You can
nevertheless check if you see any error messages when you run

dmesg | grep -i forcedeth

directly after boot. Maybe somebody else knows anything more specific
about this card. (I changed the subject line to make it more
noticeable.) It also cannot hurt if you post the output of

/sbin/modinfo forcedeth

(This will provide some more info about the driver, its version, etc.)

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Re: nVidia MCP55 (was: Slow internet on AMD64 running Etch)

2007-03-25 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 22:17:35 +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 07:24:25 -0700, Dave Stephenson wrote:
 
 [...]
 
  The network interface is integrated into the Asus M2N-e motherboard
  
  from lspci:
  00:08.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP55 Ethernet (rev a2)
  
  from ifconfig
  eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:18:F3:86:8C:92
inet addr:192.168.0.7  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask: 255.255.255.0
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:576  Metric:1
  ^^^

I had missed this when I sent my last message: Your MTU (Maximum
Transfer Unit) is a bit small. Try to run as root

ifconfig eth0 mtu 1500

and check if this improves your external connection speed. You can use
http://www.testmy.net/ to measure your download and upload rates. 

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Re: nVidia MCP55 (was: Slow internet on AMD64 running Etch)

2007-03-25 Thread Franck Joncourt
On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 10:35:11PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 22:17:35 +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
  On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 07:24:25 -0700, Dave Stephenson wrote:
  
  [...]
  
   The network interface is integrated into the Asus M2N-e motherboard
   
   from lspci:
   00:08.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP55 Ethernet (rev a2)
   
   from ifconfig
   eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:18:F3:86:8C:92
 inet addr:192.168.0.7  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask: 255.255.255.0
 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:576  Metric:1
   ^^^
 
 I had missed this when I sent my last message: Your MTU (Maximum
 Transfer Unit) is a bit small. Try to run as root
 
 ifconfig eth0 mtu 1500

If this does not solve your problem, I will be able to give your more
information as I am using a M2N32-SLI ... motherboard. (So forcedeth
dirver). It works fine for me.

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Re: nVidia MCP55 (was: Slow internet on AMD64 running Etch)

2007-03-25 Thread Dave Stephenson
On Mar 25, 2:40 pm, Florian Kulzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 22:17:35 +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
  On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 07:24:25 -0700, Dave Stephenson wrote:

  [...]

   The network interface is integrated into the Asus M2N-e motherboard

   from lspci:
   00:08.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP55 Ethernet (rev a2)

   from ifconfig
   eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:18:F3:86:8C:92
 inet addr:192.168.0.7  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask: 255.255.255.0
 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:576  Metric:1

   ^^^


 I had missed this when I sent my last message: Your MTU (Maximum
 Transfer Unit) is a bit small. Try to run as root

 ifconfig eth0 mtu 1500

 and check if this improves your external connection speed. You can 
 usehttp://www.testmy.net/to measure your download and upload rates.

mtu 1500 at least doubled my speed.  Looks like that was most if not
all of my problem.
I will fiddle with the value in the morning when the net is quiter.

Thanks for your help.
Dave


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Re: Slow internet on AMD64 running Etch

2007-03-24 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 10:11:18 -0700, Dave Stephenson wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I have been running a current version of Etch for a few months.  My
 internet download speeds are in the range of 10 - 15 kB/s.  Until
 recently I blamed it on my ISP, SignalPeak, which has been having
 troubles,  Recently I noticed that the Windoz boxes on the same router
 are getting speeds about 3 times faster.   Transfers between the Linux
  windoz boxes are too fast to measure easily, but in the MB/s range.
 
 Is this a known ETCH problem or am I doing something strange?  I did a
 fairly standard net install.  I can post diagnostic info if some kind
 soul will tell me which ones would be helpful.

We should probably start with your network card. You will get a list of
your (PCI) hardware if you run the command lspci (without quotes) from
a terminal or a console. Please do this and copy the line(s) which
are related to networking/ethernet into a mail to this list.

Somebody might know if this specific hardware has any issues, and
otherwise we will just proceed by checking if you have the correct
driver module loaded, etc.

Another thing that might help is the output of the command

/sbin/ifconfig

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Re: Slow internet on AMD64 running Etch

2007-03-23 Thread ieb
I have been having all sorts of problems lately in setting up a new box
with an AMD64 and Etch. BUT . slow speed networking aint one of
them in fact I was surprised at how fast it was compared with the
old workhorse machine it will eventually replace.


So ... sorry... but it looks as if it's possibly your configuration.


Ian

On Fri, 2007-03-23 at 17:11, Dave Stephenson wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I have been running a current version of Etch for a few months.  My
 internet download speeds are in the range of 10 - 15 kB/s.  Until
 recently I blamed it on my ISP, SignalPeak, which has been having
 troubles,  Recently I noticed that the Windoz boxes on the same router
 are getting speeds about 3 times faster.   Transfers between the Linux
  windoz boxes are too fast to measure easily, but in the MB/s range.
 
 Is this a known ETCH problem or am I doing something strange?  I did a
 fairly standard net install.  I can post diagnostic info if some kind
 soul will tell me which ones would be helpful.
 
 Dave
 


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Slow internet on AMD64 running Etch

2007-03-23 Thread Dave Stephenson
Hi all,

I have been running a current version of Etch for a few months.  My
internet download speeds are in the range of 10 - 15 kB/s.  Until
recently I blamed it on my ISP, SignalPeak, which has been having
troubles,  Recently I noticed that the Windoz boxes on the same router
are getting speeds about 3 times faster.   Transfers between the Linux
 windoz boxes are too fast to measure easily, but in the MB/s range.

Is this a known ETCH problem or am I doing something strange?  I did a
fairly standard net install.  I can post diagnostic info if some kind
soul will tell me which ones would be helpful.

Dave


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