Re: Squeeze. After Trinity istall no boot background picture

2011-02-09 Thread deloptes
Jimmy Johnson wrote:

 If you install 'desktop-base' you will get the complete Debian Squeeze
 Theme.
 
 As far as Trinity goes, if you are running Ubuntu 10.04 LTS then Trinity
 works fine, Tim and his helpers are Ubuntu Users and don't know how to
 build Trinity for Debian and that is a big problem, now that Squeeze has
 gone gold maybe a Debian Developer will step-up and build KDE3 for
 Squeeze, in the meantime KDE 4.5.3 from http://qt-kde.debian.net is a
 fantastic desktop, in my opinion, much better than KDE 4.4.

I'm using trinity for few weeks in production and there are no issues with
it. it's just perfect.

I was able to build apps for trinity only from inside kdeveloper, I guess
there are some preconfigured settings for the paths and libs.

As far as I've tested kde4.5 it could still not convince me to move to it.

There are still too many things that are not working well. And not because
debian has older version in the repo, but because the code is still faulty

regards



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Re: Squeeze. After Trinity istall no boot background picture

2011-02-08 Thread deloptes
Curt Howland wrote:

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 On Saturday 05 February 2011, mark.goldsht...@gmail.com was heard to
 say:
 Years before I've used to be a KDE 3 user. KDE 4 experiments are
 not in my favorites, so after couple of years with Debian GNOME
 (Lenny mostly), I have decided to check out Trinity Project.
 Well, have no intention to point a finger on somebody or something
 alike but TP seems to be far from that clean and working DE I do
 remember as KDE 3.
 
 You might appreciate this discussion on LXer.com:
 
 http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/31333/
 
 So far, that's the only review of Trinity-DE that I've seen.
 

but this is not related to the topic question

I'm getting splashy connection refused -3

I tried to search on this but could find a solution and as testing is taking
time and reboots I gave it up. I'm still using my custom initrd where
splashy is working

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Re: Squeeze. After Trinity istall no boot background picture

2011-02-06 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Feb 06, 2011 at 09:15:00AM +0300, Mark Goldshtein wrote:
  BTW, .trinity dir is still in my ~/. and took 22.4 Mb of my space.
  Despite of apt-get purge.
 
  The packaging system shouldn't touch files in your home directory, even
  on a purge.
 
 Does that means I may delete all Trinity related content in ~/. manually?

If you don't want it, sure. 

 Sorry asking here, not in Trinity mailing list. Just unsubscribed from there.

No problem, it is more of a Debian question than a Trinity one.

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Re: Squeeze. After Trinity istall no boot background picture

2011-02-06 Thread Jimmy Johnson

Mark Goldshtein wrote:

On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 10:03 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sat, 05 Feb 2011 21:01:26 +0300, Mark Goldshtein wrote:


On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Camaleón wrote:

I have tried to find background image but do not know name and
location. Wide search brought me nothing.

(...)

You can get it from here:

http://svn.debianart.org/themes/spacefun/



Thank you for an advice!
You are always here, Camaleón, and ready to help, that very supportive.

:-)


offtopic---

As a matter of fact, I killed my Debian installation.

Oh, my... what happened?


The way it happend was simple, I have installed trinity with trivial
command # apt-get install desktop-base-trinity kde-trinity, so, as it
seems to me, it may be uninstalled with adequate and predictable
command. Obviously, my opinion about what install/uninstall command
means, does not comply with sharp and strict vision of such processes
of trinity creators.

May I ask why did you want to remove Trinity packages? :-?


Years before I've used to be a KDE 3 user. KDE 4 experiments are not
in my favorites, so after couple of years with Debian GNOME (Lenny
mostly), I have decided to check out Trinity Project.
Well, have no intention to point a finger on somebody or something
alike but TP seems to be far from that clean and working DE I do
remember as KDE 3.


Yes, of course, my knowledge of linux systems is very basic and it is
the only reason I have no power to resurrect the system in its glory,
which is, of course, possible for an any advanced padawan.

Trinity has its own mailing list. Maybe, before making any undesiderable
movement, you should have asked there. Anyway, I also find difficult to
play with several desktops (I mean, removing a whole DE is not always as
easy as installing it) :-/



Have done something already. Have uncommented CD-ROM and took
something from there (iwconfig still does not works with WPA key
passphrase?). Now reinstalling GNOME (as I like to think), thank god a
network is up. That goes slowly, about 10 kb/s. Probably, because of
New Release event.

Just another heroical battle with own stupidity and self-created problems.



If you install 'desktop-base' you will get the complete Debian Squeeze 
Theme.


As far as Trinity goes, if you are running Ubuntu 10.04 LTS then Trinity 
works fine, Tim and his helpers are Ubuntu Users and don't know how to 
build Trinity for Debian and that is a big problem, now that Squeeze has 
gone gold maybe a Debian Developer will step-up and build KDE3 for 
Squeeze, in the meantime KDE 4.5.3 from http://qt-kde.debian.net is a 
fantastic desktop, in my opinion, much better than KDE 4.4.

--
Jimmy Johnson

Custom OS - AMD64 - KDE 4.5.3 - EXT4 at sda7
Registered Linux User #380263


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Squeeze. After Trinity istall no boot background picture

2011-02-05 Thread Mark Goldshtein
Hello, list!

Recently, I have installed Trinity (KDE 3 fork) into my Squeeze
laptop. After that, that nice boot picture which accompanying logon
window is gone. Instead, I see acid green-yellow background of high
intensity and extremely eye irritating.

I have tried to find background image but do not know name and
location. Wide search brought me nothing.

Please, help to restore an original background or a new one, full of stars.
Thanks for your time!

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Re: Squeeze. After Trinity istall no boot background picture

2011-02-05 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 05 Feb 2011 18:13:37 +0300, Mark Goldshtein wrote:

 Recently, I have installed Trinity (KDE 3 fork) into my Squeeze laptop.
 After that, that nice boot picture which accompanying logon window is
 gone. Instead, I see acid green-yellow background of high intensity and
 extremely eye irritating.
 
 I have tried to find background image but do not know name and location.
 Wide search brought me nothing.

(...)

You can get it from here:

http://svn.debianart.org/themes/spacefun/

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Re: Squeeze. After Trinity istall no boot background picture

2011-02-05 Thread Mark Goldshtein
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, 05 Feb 2011 18:13:37 +0300, Mark Goldshtein wrote:

 Recently, I have installed Trinity (KDE 3 fork) into my Squeeze laptop.
 After that, that nice boot picture which accompanying logon window is
 gone. Instead, I see acid green-yellow background of high intensity and
 extremely eye irritating.

 I have tried to find background image but do not know name and location.
 Wide search brought me nothing.

 (...)

 You can get it from here:

 http://svn.debianart.org/themes/spacefun/


Thank you for an advice!
You are always here, Camaleón, and ready to help, that very supportive.

offtopic---

As a matter of fact, I killed my Debian installation. The way it
happend was simple, I have installed trinity with trivial  command #
apt-get install desktop-base-trinity kde-trinity, so, as it seems to
me, it may be uninstalled with adequate and predictable command.
Obviously, my opinion about what install/uninstall command means,
does not comply with sharp and strict vision of such processes of
trinity creators. Well, trinity takes with itself into the void my
standard GNOME desktop also.
Yes, of course, my knowledge of linux systems is very basic and it is
the only reason I have no power to resurrect the system in its glory,
which is, of course, possible for an any advanced padawan.

-- 
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Mark Goldshtein


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Re: Squeeze. After Trinity istall no boot background picture

2011-02-05 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 05 Feb 2011 21:01:26 +0300, Mark Goldshtein wrote:

 On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Camaleón wrote:

 I have tried to find background image but do not know name and
 location. Wide search brought me nothing.

 (...)

 You can get it from here:

 http://svn.debianart.org/themes/spacefun/


 Thank you for an advice!
 You are always here, Camaleón, and ready to help, that very supportive.

:-)

 offtopic---
 
 As a matter of fact, I killed my Debian installation. 

Oh, my... what happened?

 The way it happend was simple, I have installed trinity with trivial 
 command # apt-get install desktop-base-trinity kde-trinity, so, as it
 seems to me, it may be uninstalled with adequate and predictable
 command. Obviously, my opinion about what install/uninstall command
 means, does not comply with sharp and strict vision of such processes
 of trinity creators.

May I ask why did you want to remove Trinity packages? :-?

 Well, trinity takes with itself into the void my standard GNOME
 desktop also.

Wow...

 Yes, of course, my knowledge of linux systems is very basic and it is
 the only reason I have no power to resurrect the system in its glory,
 which is, of course, possible for an any advanced padawan.

Trinity has its own mailing list. Maybe, before making any undesiderable 
movement, you should have asked there. Anyway, I also find difficult to 
play with several desktops (I mean, removing a whole DE is not always as 
easy as installing it) :-/

Greetings,

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Re: Squeeze. After Trinity istall no boot background picture

2011-02-05 Thread Mark Goldshtein
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 10:03 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, 05 Feb 2011 21:01:26 +0300, Mark Goldshtein wrote:

 On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Camaleón wrote:

 I have tried to find background image but do not know name and
 location. Wide search brought me nothing.

 (...)

 You can get it from here:

 http://svn.debianart.org/themes/spacefun/


 Thank you for an advice!
 You are always here, Camaleón, and ready to help, that very supportive.

 :-)

 offtopic---

 As a matter of fact, I killed my Debian installation.

 Oh, my... what happened?

 The way it happend was simple, I have installed trinity with trivial
 command # apt-get install desktop-base-trinity kde-trinity, so, as it
 seems to me, it may be uninstalled with adequate and predictable
 command. Obviously, my opinion about what install/uninstall command
 means, does not comply with sharp and strict vision of such processes
 of trinity creators.

 May I ask why did you want to remove Trinity packages? :-?

Years before I've used to be a KDE 3 user. KDE 4 experiments are not
in my favorites, so after couple of years with Debian GNOME (Lenny
mostly), I have decided to check out Trinity Project.
Well, have no intention to point a finger on somebody or something
alike but TP seems to be far from that clean and working DE I do
remember as KDE 3.

 Yes, of course, my knowledge of linux systems is very basic and it is
 the only reason I have no power to resurrect the system in its glory,
 which is, of course, possible for an any advanced padawan.

 Trinity has its own mailing list. Maybe, before making any undesiderable
 movement, you should have asked there. Anyway, I also find difficult to
 play with several desktops (I mean, removing a whole DE is not always as
 easy as installing it) :-/


Have done something already. Have uncommented CD-ROM and took
something from there (iwconfig still does not works with WPA key
passphrase?). Now reinstalling GNOME (as I like to think), thank god a
network is up. That goes slowly, about 10 kb/s. Probably, because of
New Release event.

Just another heroical battle with own stupidity and self-created problems.

-- 
Sincerely Yours'
Mark Goldshtein


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Re: Squeeze. After Trinity istall no boot background picture

2011-02-05 Thread Curt Howland
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On Saturday 05 February 2011, mark.goldsht...@gmail.com was heard to 
say:
 Years before I've used to be a KDE 3 user. KDE 4 experiments are
 not in my favorites, so after couple of years with Debian GNOME
 (Lenny mostly), I have decided to check out Trinity Project.
 Well, have no intention to point a finger on somebody or something
 alike but TP seems to be far from that clean and working DE I do
 remember as KDE 3.

You might appreciate this discussion on LXer.com:

http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/31333/

So far, that's the only review of Trinity-DE that I've seen.

Curt-

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Re: Squeeze. After Trinity istall no boot background picture

2011-02-05 Thread Mark Goldshtein
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 12:39 AM, Curt Howland howl...@priss.com wrote:
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 On Saturday 05 February 2011, mark.goldsht...@gmail.com was heard to
 say:
 Years before I've used to be a KDE 3 user. KDE 4 experiments are
 not in my favorites, so after couple of years with Debian GNOME
 (Lenny mostly), I have decided to check out Trinity Project.
 Well, have no intention to point a finger on somebody or something
 alike but TP seems to be far from that clean and working DE I do
 remember as KDE 3.

 You might appreciate this discussion on LXer.com:

 http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/31333/

 So far, that's the only review of Trinity-DE that I've seen.


Thanks, that was interesting reading.

BTW, .trinity dir is still in my ~/. and took 22.4 Mb of my space.
Despite of apt-get purge.

My system has been restored successfully, and boot background is back
also. Quite complicated way to restore a boot background but fine.

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Re: Squeeze. After Trinity istall no boot background picture

2011-02-05 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Feb 06, 2011 at 01:19:15AM +0300, Mark Goldshtein wrote:
 BTW, .trinity dir is still in my ~/. and took 22.4 Mb of my space.
 Despite of apt-get purge.

The packaging system shouldn't touch files in your home directory, even
on a purge.

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Re: Squeeze. After Trinity istall no boot background picture

2011-02-05 Thread Mark Goldshtein
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 4:42 AM, Chris Bannister
mockingb...@earthlight.co.nz wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 06, 2011 at 01:19:15AM +0300, Mark Goldshtein wrote:
 BTW, .trinity dir is still in my ~/. and took 22.4 Mb of my space.
 Despite of apt-get purge.

 The packaging system shouldn't touch files in your home directory, even
 on a purge.

Does that means I may delete all Trinity related content in ~/. manually?

Sorry asking here, not in Trinity mailing list. Just unsubscribed from there.

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