Re: Strange file names
Quoting Oki DZ ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Rob Mahurin wrote: 18:39 ~ $ which [ /usr/bin/[ 18:39 ~ $ type [ [ is a shell builtin ^^^ Hm... does it mean that magic is not quite magical...? I thought file used magic; it says: file /usr/bin/\[ /usr/bin/[: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped but I assume that the shell never bothers to run /usr/bin/[ (or /bin/echo etc.). Cheers, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
Re: Strange file names
Rob Mahurin wrote: 18:39 ~ $ which [ /usr/bin/[ 18:39 ~ $ type [ [ is a shell builtin ^^^ Hm... does it mean that magic is not quite magical...? Oki
Re: Strange file names
Wednesday, November 17, 1999, 3:45:18 PM, Rob wrote: On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 07:24:01AM +0700, Oki DZ wrote: I thought it was part of the script's syntax. (hmm.. what an enlightenment...) Oki 18:39 ~ $ which [ /usr/bin/[ 18:39 ~ $ type [ [ is a shell builtin How strange. I can't get dpkg to find what package provides the binary, either. [ is test. test is from shellutils. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+-
Re: Linux names (Re: Strange file names)
On 15-Nov-1999, Bart Szyszka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ps: just kidding folks. don't take me seriously on this one. Tux (my server) is safe. Would it be off-topic of me to ask if anyone else has named their Linux systems? Mine was called Debby Anne and now I've shortened it to Debby. : ) Here at the mercury project: quicksilver hydra (two cpus) hg (chemical symbol for mercury) roy (since in the same room as hg (australian joke)) at home: vet (pun on my login) wally dilbert dogbert princess
Re: [OT] Re: Linux names (Re: Strange file names)
Phil Brutsche wrote: A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said... ps: just kidding folks. don't take me seriously on this one. Tux (my server) is safe. Would it be off-topic of me to ask if anyone else has named their Linux systems? Yes it would, actually. Mine was called Debby Anne and now I've shortened it to Debby. I also have Giedi, Fury, and a SPARCstation running NetBSD called Arrakis. With a Kaitain coming soon. Mine is okidz, which is basically my name. But the Sparc machine I've been configuring is ss1; which is the flagship product of my company (the one I work for). Oki -- Shells Command shells. Friendly user interfaces for beginners. http://www.debian.org/Packages/stable/
Re: Linux names (Re: Strange file names)
Peter Ross wrote:
...
roy (since in the same room as hg (australian joke))
Would you mind telling the joke please...
('cause I don't get it)
Oki
RE: Linux names (Re: Strange file names)
From: Peter Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Would it be off-topic of me to ask if anyone else has named their Linux systems? At my house... grayswandir: main machine excalibur: wife's Win machine sting: laptop frakir: mac dyrnwyn: old 486 irving: old 386 Bonus points to those who can spot the theme and describe the origins of the individual names. :- Sincerely, Ray Ingles (248) 377-7735 [EMAIL PROTECTED] I can write programs that control air traffic, intercept ballistic missiles, reconcile bank accounts, control production lines. So can I, and so can any man, but do they work when you do write them? - Fred Brooks, after Shakespeare, in The Mythical Man-Month
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Ingles, Raymond wrote: At my house... grayswandir: main machine excalibur: wife's Win machine sting: laptop frakir: mac dyrnwyn: old 486 irving: old 386 Bonus points to those who can spot the theme and describe the origins of the individual names. :- They are all bladed weapons out of fantasy-type stories. Excalibur is of course from the Arthur legends. Sting is the blade carried by Bilbo on his quest to the Lonely Mountain. Grayswandir I recognize, but can't seem to remember where it came from (Corwin of Amber, maybe?). The last three I don't recognize, but the theme is clear enough from the first three. Is that good enough for half-credit? grin -- Mike Werner KA8YSD | Where do you want to go today? ICQ# 12934898 | As far from Redmond as possible! '91 GS500E| Morgantown WV | Only dead fish go with the flow.
Re: Strange file names
On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 07:24:01AM +0700, Oki DZ wrote: I thought it was part of the script's syntax. (hmm.. what an enlightenment...) Oki 18:39 ~ $ which [ /usr/bin/[ 18:39 ~ $ type [ [ is a shell builtin How strange. I can't get dpkg to find what package provides the binary, either. Rob -- Adore, v.: To venerate expectantly. -- Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary
Re: Strange file names
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said... I have some strange files. Do they have to exist in /usr/bin? ss1:/usr/bin$ ls -l | more total 9010 -rwxr-xr-x 2 root root20720 Dec 24 1998 [ the 'test' program, widely used in shell scripts -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 107956 Feb 24 1999 a2p awk - perl translator lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root4 Nov 16 03:44 - host does the same thing as the program 'host' -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root14416 Feb 24 1999 ab apache benchmark Or, does it mean that this system has been cracked? Nope. Or am I just being paranoid? You're just being paranoid. I have all those files too, and my server has, most definitely, been cracked. -- -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are two things that are infinite; Human stupidity and the universe. And I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
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On 15/11/99 Phil Brutsche wrote: You're just being paranoid. I have all those files too, and my server has, most definitely, been cracked. ^^ so these files were not left by the cracker who cracked your system :-) Ethan Benson OpenPGP encrypted mail accepted. To obtain my PGP key: http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/pgp/ Key FingerPrint: 371A 7416 5D39 CF2D 9366 8AF6 0139 54F5 3EBD 0FE6 RSA Key FingerPrint: DE8B 74D0 79F1 6176 9AF5 120F 47AD 9B0A
Re: Strange file names
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said... You're just being paranoid. I have all those files too, and my server has, most definitely, been cracked. ^^ Damn. I hate typos. so these files were not left by the cracker who cracked your system :-) Nope, they weren't left by that friggin cracker. The files detailing the planned alien invasion of our wretched planet were, however :) ps: just kidding folks. don't take me seriously on this one. Tux (my server) is safe. -- -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are two things that are infinite; Human stupidity and the universe. And I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
Linux names (Re: Strange file names)
ps: just kidding folks. don't take me seriously on this one. Tux (my server) is safe. Would it be off-topic of me to ask if anyone else has named their Linux systems? Mine was called Debby Anne and now I've shortened it to Debby. : ) -- Bart Szyszka [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:4982727 B Grafyx http://www.bgrafyx.com L.J.R. Engineering http://www.ljreng.com PHP Interest Group http://www.gigabee.com/pig/
[OT] Re: Linux names (Re: Strange file names)
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said... ps: just kidding folks. don't take me seriously on this one. Tux (my server) is safe. Would it be off-topic of me to ask if anyone else has named their Linux systems? Yes it would, actually. Mine was called Debby Anne and now I've shortened it to Debby. I also have Giedi, Fury, and a SPARCstation running NetBSD called Arrakis. With a Kaitain coming soon. Call me a science fiction freak (they're from Frank Herbert's Dune series, for those who don't know) :) -- -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are two things that are infinite; Human stupidity and the universe. And I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
Re: [OT] Re: Linux names (Re: Strange file names)
Phil Brutsche said: A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said... Would it be off-topic of me to ask if anyone else has named their Linux systems? Doesn't everyone? Mine was called Debby Anne and now I've shortened it to Debby. I also have Giedi, Fury, and a SPARCstation running NetBSD called Arrakis. With a Kaitain coming soon. I've got Genma (my server), PChan (my workstation) and Amelia (my laptop). And then there's Happosai (aka Happy) the gateway/firewall sitting in my closet waiting for me to get a working ISA ether card and set it up for real... (Amelia is a character from Slayers and the others are from Ranma 1/2, both of which are excellent anime series. Highly recommended if you like silly fantasy or martial arts-type anime. No giant robots, but still worth checking out if that's the only kind of anime you're familiar with.) -- Geek Code 3.1: GCS d- s+: a- C++ UL++$ P L++ E- W--(++) N+ o+ !K w---$ O M- !V PS+ PE Y+ PGP t 5++ X+ R++ tv- b++ DI D G e* h+ r++ y+
Re: Strange file names
On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Oki DZ wrote: litban I have some strange files. Do they have to exist in /usr/bin? uhoh!! litban -rwxr-xr-x 2 root root20720 Dec 24 1998 [ dont know what that is ..but i have it too, i cant get dpkg to identify it .. litban -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 107956 Feb 24 1999 a2p part of the perl package litban lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root4 Nov 16 03:44 - host part of the dnsutils package litban -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root14416 Feb 24 1999 ab part of the apache-common package litban Or, does it mean that this system has been cracked? never know..binaries can always be replaced once when i got cracked the guy stuck a password sniffer in /dev (forgot the name of the sniffer) and it was logging all the POP3 passwords.. litban Or am I just being paranoid? you can never be too paranoid. nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ Everett, WA 425-348-7336http://www.linuxpowered.net/ Powered By:http://comedy.aphroland.org/ Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMPhttp://yahoo.aphroland.org/ -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- 7:39pm up 88 days, 7:12, 1 user, load average: 1.48, 1.71, 1.96
Re: Strange file names
On Mon, Nov 15, 1999 at 07:56:29PM -0800, aphro wrote On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Oki DZ wrote: litban I have some strange files. Do they have to exist in /usr/bin? uhoh!! litban -rwxr-xr-x 2 root root20720 Dec 24 1998 [ dont know what that is ..but i have it too, i cant get dpkg to identify it .. This is a conventional alias for 'test'. As in, $ if [ -e /usr/bin/[ ] ; \ then echo [ is present in /usr/bin; \ else \ echo [ is missing - your system is a little hosed, dude. ;\ fi [snip] never know..binaries can always be replaced once when i got cracked the guy stuck a password sniffer in /dev (forgot the name of the sniffer) and it was logging all the POP3 passwords.. litban Or am I just being paranoid? you can never be too paranoid. Oh, I don't know about that... John P. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh - I - you know - my job is to fear everything. - Bill Gates in Denmark
re:Linux names (Re: Strange file names)
Would it be off-topic of me to ask if anyone else has named their Linux systems? Mine was called Debby Anne and now I've shortened it to Debby. The linux box in my office is named 'Penguin', there is also a motororla power stack running PPC linux called 'MotoPenguin'. My box at home was 'Doppleganger', but is now 'M5' = Amateur Radio, when all else fails! http://www.qsl.net/wa2mze Debian Gnu Linux, Live Free or . __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
Re: Linux names (Re: Strange file names)
On Mon, Nov 15, 1999 at 09:48:16PM -0500, Bart Szyszka wrote: ps: just kidding folks. don't take me seriously on this one. Tux (my server) is safe. Would it be off-topic of me to ask if anyone else has named their Linux systems? Mine was called Debby Anne and now I've shortened it to Debby. Of course we do! Remember way far back ago in the intial install, one of the questions was, what is the name of this system? This one is peon. Rob -- Well, it's hard for a mere man to believe that woman doesn't have equal rights. -- Dwight D. Eisenhower
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On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Kenneth Scharf wrote: schark schark Would it be off-topic of me to ask if anyone else has schark named their Linux schark systems? Mine was called Debby Anne and now I've schark shortened it to Debby. schark schark The linux box in my office is named 'Penguin', there schark is also a motororla power stack running PPC linux schark called 'MotoPenguin'. My box at home was schark 'Doppleganger', but is now 'M5' I just built 2 machines to test a VPN and i named em kirk spock :/ nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ Everett, WA 425-348-7336http://www.linuxpowered.net/ Powered By:http://comedy.aphroland.org/ Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMPhttp://yahoo.aphroland.org/ -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- 8:18am up 88 days, 19:51, 1 user, load average: 1.61, 1.64, 1.73
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Tuesday, November 16, 1999, 8:32:25 AM, Rob wrote: Of course we do! Remember way far back ago in the intial install, one of the questions was, what is the name of this system? This one is peon. My server is teleute. morpheus is my workstation (like you couldn't guess that from my email). My laptop is named mania because when I had installed it I had the intentions of using it at work on remote installs which meant its IP would constantly be changing. Unused names for the network, aponoia, olethros, epithumia, potmos. potmos is reserved for my router if I ever get a dedicated one (DSL anyone?). Kudo to anyone who can recognize where I got those names from and digging my domain would be cheating. ;) -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+-
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aphro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just built 2 machines to test a VPN and i named em kirk spock :/ If you come to series... Casimir (first one, 486 - broken at the moment) Clodomir (P200) Minimir (Vaio laptop) Faramir Boromir (Not mine actually - at work last year) Cachemir (At work now) Most of these names will of course speak only to French people (except maybe Faramir Boromir). Casimir was a TV series in the early 1980's, Clodomir was one of Clovis's sons (Clovis was maybe the first king of France, centuries ago). Minimir is a washing powder (sold in small quantities, unlike the Mir Express type). Cachemir -- well. Next one? Stationmir (if I ever buy an Alpha workstation).
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Tuesday, November 16, 1999, 9:03:16 AM, Roland wrote: Next one? Stationmir (if I ever buy an Alpha workstation). Nah. I vote vote that Stationmir be the name given to the Windows box, as in always falling apart and kept together with spit, chickenwire and a whole lotta prayers. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+-
Strange file names
Hi, I have some strange files. Do they have to exist in /usr/bin? ss1:/usr/bin$ ls -l | more total 9010 -rwxr-xr-x 2 root root20720 Dec 24 1998 [ -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 107956 Feb 24 1999 a2p lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root4 Nov 16 03:44 - host -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root14416 Feb 24 1999 ab Or, does it mean that this system has been cracked? Or am I just being paranoid? Oki -- Shells Command shells. Friendly user interfaces for beginners. http://www.debian.org/Packages/stable/
