Sysvinit replacement (was: (Solved) Re: Wheezy: module unix not found in modules.dep)
On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 10:54:52 -0600, hvw59601 wrote: Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 19:19:49 +, Brian wrote: (...) A little off the topic of your mail (and rhetorical) I wonder what your reaction will be when testing gets the new sysvinit? What new sysvinit? You mean systemd? :-? I've only read about problems and headaches coming from users and admins for systemd which is currently the default init system for another distributions so let's see how Debian handles this. My first impression is that distributions made the transtition too soon... these things need time to: a) Get users and admins accustomed to the new system b) Solving the highest number of problems/bugs before it reaches the streets c) Write down detailed documentation for users migrating from sysvinit and newcomers That package (systemd) is in Sid. What determines that it must be used? Deactivation of sysv-rc? Mmm, AFAIK sysvinit and systemd can coexist, but I don't know how to give preference to one of them. Maybe by some sort of variable in /etc/ default/*? :-? Let me read the docs... okay, it is documented at /usr/share/doc/systemd/ README.Debian *** systemd for Debian == systemd can be installed alongside sysvinit and will not change the behaviour of the system out of the box. This is intentional. To test systemd, add: init=/bin/systemd to the kernel command line and then rebooting, or install the systemd-sysv package. *** Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2012.01.07.17.14...@gmail.com
Re: Sysvinit replacement
Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 10:54:52 -0600, hvw59601 wrote: Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 19:19:49 +, Brian wrote: (...) A little off the topic of your mail (and rhetorical) I wonder what your reaction will be when testing gets the new sysvinit? What new sysvinit? You mean systemd? :-? I've only read about problems and headaches coming from users and admins for systemd which is currently the default init system for another distributions so let's see how Debian handles this. My first impression is that distributions made the transtition too soon... these things need time to: a) Get users and admins accustomed to the new system b) Solving the highest number of problems/bugs before it reaches the streets c) Write down detailed documentation for users migrating from sysvinit and newcomers That package (systemd) is in Sid. What determines that it must be used? Deactivation of sysv-rc? Mmm, AFAIK sysvinit and systemd can coexist, but I don't know how to give preference to one of them. Maybe by some sort of variable in /etc/ default/*? :-? Let me read the docs... okay, it is documented at /usr/share/doc/systemd/ README.Debian *** systemd for Debian == systemd can be installed alongside sysvinit and will not change the behaviour of the system out of the box. This is intentional. To test systemd, add: init=/bin/systemd to the kernel command line and then rebooting, or install the systemd-sysv package. *** Does that mean systemd will be voluntary for the foreseeable future? (And how did you read the docs of systemd, you installed it?) Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jea22o$itl$2...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Sysvinit replacement
On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 12:14:48 -0600, hvw59601 wrote: Camaleón wrote: (...) That package (systemd) is in Sid. What determines that it must be used? Deactivation of sysv-rc? Mmm, AFAIK sysvinit and systemd can coexist, but I don't know how to give preference to one of them. Maybe by some sort of variable in /etc/ default/*? :-? Let me read the docs... okay, it is documented at /usr/share/doc/systemd/ README.Debian *** systemd for Debian == systemd can be installed alongside sysvinit and will not change the behaviour of the system out of the box. This is intentional. To test systemd, add: init=/bin/systemd to the kernel command line and then rebooting, or install the systemd-sysv package. *** Does that mean systemd will be voluntary for the foreseeable future? (And how did you read the docs of systemd, you installed it?) There is also upstart as a possible replacement, so I hope whatever decission is finally reached by Debian team it allows users to select their desired init system regardless the choosen default. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jea35p$aqv$1...@dough.gmane.org
