Re: WYSIWYG Word Processor

1998-08-04 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Mon, Aug 03, 1998 at 10:29:11AM -0700, Darren Benham wrote:
 
 On 03-Aug-98 Ivan wrote:
  At 09:10 AM 03-08-98 -0700, you wrote:
 Try Star Office. - COMMERCIAL  
  
  Only available FREE as part of the Caldera distribution !
  
 Close.. it may only be distributed with Caldera (ie, not with Debian, SuSE, 
 Red
 Hat, Slackware).  It can still be downloaded under the same free license.

Sometimes they make a deal --- German PC magazine CHIP had SO in their
normal magazine and a later version in a special edition.

Marcus

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[ivan@vianet.net.au: WYSIWYG Word Processor]

1998-08-03 Thread Martin Schulze
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Hello,

I am seeking a WYSIWYG Word Processor - I downloaded and
installed lyX today - pretty good but not quite what I am
looking for.

Maxwell seemed an option but I couldn't get it installed
(probably my fault but still, on some things, I give up easy
!).

Any other options - should I go commercial ???

Ivan.

BTW : Thanks very very much for the help with SB16 and the
discussion afterwards - this sure is a learning experience. 
I have more SB questions for a later post ... word
processing has suddenly become a very urgent priority !

Thanks again for the help.

Ivan.
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WYSIWYG Word Processor

1998-08-03 Thread Ivan
Hello,

I am seeking a WYSIWYG Word Processor - I downloaded and
installed lyX today - pretty good but not quite what I am
looking for.

Maxwell seemed an option but I couldn't get it installed
(probably my fault but still, on some things, I give up easy
!).

Any other options - should I go commercial ???

Ivan.

BTW : Thanks very very much for the help with SB16 and the
discussion afterwards - this sure is a learning experience. 
I have more SB questions for a later post ... word
processing has suddenly become a very urgent priority !

Thanks again for the help.

Ivan.



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RE: WYSIWYG Word Processor

1998-08-03 Thread Darren Benham
Try Star Office.  I *might* do what you're looking for without going 
commercial.


On 03-Aug-98 Ivan wrote:
 Any other options - should I go commercial ???

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Re: WYSIWYG Word Processor

1998-08-03 Thread Robert Claeson
Darren Benham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Try Star Office.  I *might* do what you're looking for without going 
commercial.


And I've always thought that Star Office *is* commercial...



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Re: WYSIWYG Word Processor

1998-08-03 Thread Darren Benham
The Linux port is free -- not as in DFSG but as in: the Linux port is free
for non-commercial use...  hence the *might*

On 03-Aug-98 Robert Claeson wrote:
 Darren Benham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
Try Star Office.  I *might* do what you're looking for without going 
commercial.
 
 
 And I've always thought that Star Office *is* commercial...

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RE: WYSIWYG Word Processor

1998-08-03 Thread Ivan
At 09:10 AM 03-08-98 -0700, you wrote:
Try Star Office. - COMMERCIAL  

Only available FREE as part of the Caldera distribution !

The blurb I saw leading up to this discovery lead me to believe that Star
Office had seen the light - it seems I was mislead :(

  I *might* do what you're looking for without going 
commercial.






On 03-Aug-98 Ivan wrote:
 Any other options - should I go commercial ???

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Re: WYSIWYG Word Processor

1998-08-03 Thread aqy6633
 Only available FREE as part of the Caldera distribution !

???
Go ahead and download it from www.stardivision.com


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Re: WYSIWYG Word Processor

1998-08-03 Thread Ivan
At 12:55 PM 03-08-98 -0400, you wrote:
 Only available FREE as part of the Caldera distribution !

???
Go ahead and download it from www.stardivision.com

Maybe after 11 August ... the site at the moment makes no mention of it
being available and the Caldera site still specifies a price for it - - any
wonder I'm confused ???   :)

Ivan.


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RE: WYSIWYG Word Processor ( A Million Apologies !)

1998-08-03 Thread Ivan
At 02:09 PM 03-08-98 -0300, you wrote:
Ivan writes:
  At 09:10 AM 03-08-98 -0700, you wrote:
  Try Star Office. - COMMERCIAL  
  
  Only available FREE as part of the Caldera distribution !

Not at all. You can download staroffice 4.0 and install in your box, if you
don't use it commercially (I think educational intitutions can use as well).
I've done that myself and installed it in /usr/local/. It works smoothly (but
you need libc5) but uses *lots* of memory (up to 50M in my 64M box).

Thanks for that - I stand corrected once more !!!

Too bad I don't speak German but I figured my way through the site easily
enough !!!

Now to figure out if it will run on my little old 32M machine ?

Ivan.


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RE: WYSIWYG Word Processor

1998-08-03 Thread Paulo J. da Silva e Silva
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Ivan writes:
  At 09:10 AM 03-08-98 -0700, you wrote:
  Try Star Office. - COMMERCIAL  
  
  Only available FREE as part of the Caldera distribution !

Not at all. You can download staroffice 4.0 and install in your box, if you
don't use it commercially (I think educational intitutions can use as well).
I've done that myself and installed it in /usr/local/. It works smoothly (but
you need libc5) but uses *lots* of memory (up to 50M in my 64M box).

The only problem is that they are changing their international website these
days and it is not avaible (you can only acess pages saying they'll come back
in 11th August). Maybe it would be better wait a little since I understood
from their site that StarOffice 5.0 will bet release together with the new
site. 

If you need it right now take a look at
   http://www.stardivision.de
It is in German, though, but there you can find a link to download (they ask
some information like name and e-mail, but it's free).

Paulo.


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RE: WYSIWYG Word Processor

1998-08-03 Thread Darren Benham

On 03-Aug-98 Ivan wrote:
 At 09:10 AM 03-08-98 -0700, you wrote:
Try Star Office. - COMMERCIAL  
 
 Only available FREE as part of the Caldera distribution !
 
Close.. it may only be distributed with Caldera (ie, not with Debian, SuSE, Red
Hat, Slackware).  It can still be downloaded under the same free license.

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Re: WYSIWYG Word Processor

1998-08-03 Thread Darren Benham

On 03-Aug-98 Ivan wrote:
 At 12:55 PM 03-08-98 -0400, you wrote:
 Maybe after 11 August ... the site at the moment makes no mention of it
 being available and the Caldera site still specifies a price for it - - any
 wonder I'm confused ???   :)

I just got down browsing their site looking for the wording that backs up what
I've been saying.  They're suppsed to release version 5 so I guess they've
taken down everything that's version 4 related to get ready for the new
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Re: WYSIWYG Word Processor

1998-08-03 Thread Bob Nielsen
You can get it by ftp from narnia.mit.edu in /pub/Office40/01 (english) or
/pub/Office40/49 (german).

Please note:

250-NOTE: This Version is free for personal non-commercial use only! No
250-commercial use is permitted. You can order StarOffice for OpenLinux
250-for commercial use either from Star Division or from Caldera.
250-
250-No version of StarOffice for OpenLinux may be stored on an FTP server,
250-distributed or reproduced in any form or by any means without the
250-prior express written permission of Star Division GmbH, Hamburg,
250-Germany.
250-
250-PLEASE DO NOT DOWNLOAD THIS VERSION FROM THIS FTP SERVER WITHOUT
250-COMPLETING THE FORM ON OUR WEB SERVER (http://www.stardivision.com)!
250-Your compliance with the above ensures we will continue to supply you
250-with Linux software.
250-

You could complete the form at
http://www.staroffice.de/download/index.html (this is the german language
site). 

Also, version 3.0 is available from ftp.gwdg.de in /pub/linux/staroffice.


On Tue, 4 Aug 1998, Ivan wrote:

 At 12:55 PM 03-08-98 -0400, you wrote:
  Only available FREE as part of the Caldera distribution !
 
 ???
 Go ahead and download it from www.stardivision.com
 
 Maybe after 11 August ... the site at the moment makes no mention of it
 being available and the Caldera site still specifies a price for it - - any
 wonder I'm confused ???   :)

It is free for non-commercial use only.  If you want to use it otherwise,
you will have to purchase it from either StarDivision or Caldera.

I've tried both.  IMHO, the display is a bit better with version 3.0
(however I prefer WordPerfect, which is $$).

Bob


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Re: WYSIWYG Word Processor

1998-08-03 Thread jason and jill
I haven't used it all that much yet (can't stand the idea of coming home
and typing MORE documents) but SmartOffice seems just fine.

Jason

On Mon, 3 Aug 1998, Ivan wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I am seeking a WYSIWYG Word Processor - I downloaded and
 installed lyX today - pretty good but not quite what I am
 looking for.
 
 Maxwell seemed an option but I couldn't get it installed
 (probably my fault but still, on some things, I give up easy
 !).
 
 Any other options - should I go commercial ???
 
 Ivan.
 
 BTW : Thanks very very much for the help with SB16 and the
 discussion afterwards - this sure is a learning experience. 
 I have more SB questions for a later post ... word
 processing has suddenly become a very urgent priority !
 
 Thanks again for the help.
 
 Ivan.
 
 
 
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RE: WYSIWYG Word Processor

1998-08-03 Thread jason and jill
Oops, that's what I meant...StarOffice.

smack

Jason

On Mon, 3 Aug 1998, Darren Benham wrote:

 Try Star Office.  I *might* do what you're looking for without going 
 commercial.
 
 
 On 03-Aug-98 Ivan wrote:
  Any other options - should I go commercial ???
 
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Re: WYSIWYG Word Processor

1998-08-03 Thread jason and jill
 Try Star Office.  I *might* do what you're looking for without going 
 commercial.
 
 
 And I've always thought that Star Office *is* commercial...

If I can legally d/l it, install it, and use it, and pay nothing, it's not
commercial. :) [Well, not commercial for me.] ;)

StarOffice costs $$'s if you are going to use it for business.

It's also not open source, etc.  But it is free for noncommercial use.

Jason


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RE: WYSIWYG Word Processor

1998-08-03 Thread jason and jill
 
 Only available FREE as part of the Caldera distribution !
 
 The blurb I saw leading up to this discovery lead me to believe that Star
 Office had seen the light - it seems I was mislead :(

There aren't .debs for it, but you can go ahead and d/l it from their
ftp/web site and it installed on 1.3 without any difficulty, in about
10-15 minutes.

Jason


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Re: WYSIWYG Word Processor

1998-08-03 Thread Jim Foltz
I would suggest you try LyX again. I didn't like it when I first tried it
and quit using it. After using LaTeX for for a time, I tried LyX again. So
far, there hasn't been any document I couldn't write with it. Reports with
tables, letters, resumes. It's really a superb application. LyX (LaTeX)
knows much more about making beautiful documents than I did.

On Mon, Aug 03, 1998 at 11:24:52PM +0800, Ivan wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I am seeking a WYSIWYG Word Processor - I downloaded and
 installed lyX today - pretty good but not quite what I am
 looking for.
 
 Maxwell seemed an option but I couldn't get it installed
 (probably my fault but still, on some things, I give up easy
 !).
 
 Any other options - should I go commercial ???
 
 Ivan.
 
 BTW : Thanks very very much for the help with SB16 and the
 discussion afterwards - this sure is a learning experience. 
 I have more SB questions for a later post ... word
 processing has suddenly become a very urgent priority !
 
 Thanks again for the help.
 
 Ivan.
 
 
 
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