Re: X-Windows Problems - Solved
On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 01:20:17AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 10:20:08 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 12:34:45PM -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: [...] That all sounds like there are some configuration problems in your system. Maybe you still have old configuration files which were not upgraded properly. You could try to purge gdm and xdm and then reinstall them: apt-get --purge remove xdm gdm apt-get install xdm gdm (The --purge option makes sure that all configuration files are removed, therefore you will get the up-to-date ones from the new packages when you install xdm and gdm again.) -- Regards, Florian Yes, that did the trick and everything seems to be working normally now except the Wacom mouse. I'll start a new thread for that. Thanks, Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X-Windows Problems - Progress
Thomas H. George wrote: On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 02:04:57PM -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 11:30:37AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 16:41:09 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: I am stumbling through the move from Sarge to testing. I have managed to get gdm to start but if I switch to a console I lose the window and must restart gdm. Equally frustrating, my Wacom tablet mouse is not recognized though it worked perfectly in Sarge and the wacom module is installed. This may be because I have not yet installed x-window-system-core. Apt-get reports that this package and 457 other packages are not installed as they cannot be verified. Should I go ahead and install them anyway? Which archive signing keys are known to your apt-key? Post the output of apt-key list and the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list file, then we can tell you which ones are missing (and how to install them). I would first try to complete the upgrade and install all packages before addressing the X problem. [...] Thank you for you assistance, Florian. I am attaching the output of apt-key list and sources.list. # See sources.list(5) for more information, especialy # Remember that you can only use http, ftp or file URIs # CDROMs are managed through the apt-cdrom tool. # deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian oldstable main contrib non-free # deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free # deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian sarge main contrib non-free # deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free # deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/ # deb-src http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt source/ deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org testing/updates main contrib non-free # Uncomment if you want the apt-get source function to work deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free Best regards, Tom Florian's comments led me to recognize the link to ftp.nerim.net might be the problem. I commented out and was able to complete the upgrade though I still had to purge glibc-doc to resolve a conflict. After completing the upgrade I had no X-windows at all. strace /etc/init.d/gdm restart revealed no gdm in /usr/bin. I found it in /usr/sbin and was able to start the program from there. I can now switch back and forth between X-windows (Ctl-Alt-F7) and consoles (Ctl-Alt-F1, etc) with no problems. The Wacom mouse still does not work. I found and installed xserver-xorg-input-wacom but this has not helped. The Debian Changelog in /usr/share/doc/wacom-tools seems to indicate unresolved problems. I will wait for new updates. I just did the dist-upgrade from Sarge to Sid and ran into Xorg also of course. Resolved all of that, probably because I don't have a left handed mouse but a two-seater that runs fine. Remains the incompatibility between Sarge's mysql and Sid's: this message comes up every boot: Fri May 26 05:16:49 2006: This script updates all the mysql privilege tables to be usable by Fri May 26 05:16:49 2006: MySQL 4.0 and above. Fri May 26 05:16:49 2006: Fri May 26 05:16:49 2006: This is needed if you want to use the new GRANT functions, Fri May 26 05:16:49 2006: CREATE AGGREGATE FUNCTION, stored procedures, or Fri May 26 05:16:49 2006: more secure passwords in 4.1 Fri May 26 05:16:49 2006: Fri May 26 05:16:49 2006: @(#)Network Audio System Release 1.7 Fri May 26 05:16:49 2006: Got a failure from command: Fri May 26 05:16:49 2006: cat /usr/share/mysql/mysql_fix_privilege_tables.sql | /usr/bin/mysql --verbose --no-def$ Fri May 26 05:16:49 2006: Please check the above output and try again. Fri May 26 05:16:49 2006: Fri May 26 05:16:49 2006: Running the script with the --verbose option may give you some information Fri May 26 05:16:49 2006: of what went wrong. Fri May 26 05:16:49 2006: Fri May 26 05:16:49 2006: If you get an 'Access denied' error, you should run this script again and Fri May 26 05:16:49 2006: give the MySQL root user password as an argument with the --password= option H -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X-Windows Problems - Puzzled
On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 12:34:45PM -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 03:09:39PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 14:04:57 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 11:30:37AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 16:41:09 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: I am stumbling through the move from Sarge to testing. I have managed to get gdm to start but if I switch to a console I lose the window and must restart gdm. Equally frustrating, my Wacom tablet mouse is not recognized though it worked perfectly in Sarge and the wacom module is installed. This may be because I have not yet installed x-window-system-core. Apt-get reports that this package and 457 other packages are not installed as they cannot be verified. Should I go ahead and install them anyway? [...] Testing is using Xorg instead of Xfree86. Once you have downloaded the archive keys and completed the upgrade, you can try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. (This should happen automatically during the upgrade anyway.) If you still have problems with Xorg after that, post the output of the following three commands: lspci | grep -i vga awk '/Section (Device|Monitor|Screen)/,/EndSection/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf egrep '^\((EE|WW)\)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log [...] Thank you for you assistance, Florian. I am attaching the output of apt-key list and sources.list. /etc/apt/trusted.gpg pub 1024R/1DB114E0 2004-01-15 [expired: 2005-01-27] uid Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2004) [EMAIL PROTECTED] pub 1024D/4F368D5D 2005-01-31 [expired: 2006-01-31] uid Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2005) [EMAIL PROTECTED] pub 1024D/B5F5BBED 2005-04-24 uid Debian AMD64 Archive Key debian-amd64@lists.debian.org sub 2048g/34FC6FE5 2005-04-24 pub 1024D/2D230C5F 2006-01-03 [expires: 2007-02-07] uid Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2006) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org testing/updates main contrib non-free That looks OK to me; the only thing that I notice is that you are missing Christian Marillat's signing key. I would propose to ignore this for now and to just comment out the ftp.nerim.net line. (I also think you have to change sarge to etch or testing now.) When the problem with X/gdm is settled you can always get the key as described here http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2006/05/msg02309.html and install what you want from Marillat's packages. [...] I think your problem is the result of an incomplete transition from XFree86 to Xorg. With the ftp.nerim.net line commented out, try apt-get update again. If apt is still missing some amd64-specific keys (I don't know too much about those) then it should at least give you the numbers of those keys. Post these numbers here and we can tell you were to find the corresponding keys. With all keys provided you should be able to do apt-get install -f to fix all unresolved issues. Once that works without errors and an apt-get dist-upgrade tells you that there are no more packages to upgrade, you should have a working Xorg. If that does not work we have to take a closer look, but first apt-get has to bring your system into a consistent state by completing the upgrade. -- Regards, Florian I now have all the lines in sources.list commented out except those for testing. I ran apt-get install -f followed by apt-get update then apt-get dist-upgrade and, finally, apt-get install -f again with no problems. The final apt-get install -f exited with 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 removed and 0 not upgraded Rebooted. A line with a red + went by with a message something to the effect: 'files not mounted with error code 96' but the system started at console tty1, no X-window. Logged on as root, went to /usr/sbin and ran gdm. X-window gnome logon screen came up and I logged on as tom, started Mozilla and read mail. Still cannot use Wacom mouse, lsmod shows wacom module loaded, not used. Regards, Tom Every now and then Mozilla locks up - i.e. mouse pointer moves on screen, clicks still do nothing. To escape I go to ~/.mozilla/default, get the pid that lock points to and kill it. It occurred to me to try to start xdm rather than gdm. This didn't work and strace /etc/init.d/xdm start indicated the failure was because there is no xdm in /usr/bin/X11. whereis xdm found it in /usr/bin but I could not start it from there as I have been starting gdm from /usr/sbin. As reported in another posting,
Re: X-Windows Problems, xorgcfg error
The thread is tangled because some of my previous posting have not shown up as yet. Continuing to try to get the Wacom mouse to work, ran xorgcfg. The program runs but with output to stderror Failed to initialize module list. strace xorgcfg shows it is looking in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/linux. The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers contains the modules for the video drivers but no subdirectory linux. I also went to linuxwacom webpage section on adding input devices and used this information to manually edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf. The expert mode of xorgcfg shows these additions but still no wacom mouse. Tom George -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X-Windows Problems - Puzzled
On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 10:20:08 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 12:34:45PM -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: [...] I now have all the lines in sources.list commented out except those for testing. I ran apt-get install -f followed by apt-get update then apt-get dist-upgrade and, finally, apt-get install -f again with no problems. The final apt-get install -f exited with 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 removed and 0 not upgraded Rebooted. A line with a red + went by with a message something to the effect: 'files not mounted with error code 96' but the system started at console tty1, no X-window. Logged on as root, went to /usr/sbin and ran gdm. X-window gnome logon screen came up and I logged on as tom, started Mozilla and read mail. Still cannot use Wacom mouse, lsmod shows wacom module loaded, not used. Regards, Tom Every now and then Mozilla locks up - i.e. mouse pointer moves on screen, clicks still do nothing. To escape I go to ~/.mozilla/default, get the pid that lock points to and kill it. It occurred to me to try to start xdm rather than gdm. This didn't work and strace /etc/init.d/xdm start indicated the failure was because there is no xdm in /usr/bin/X11. whereis xdm found it in /usr/bin but I could not start it from there as I have been starting gdm from /usr/sbin. That all sounds like there are some configuration problems in your system. Maybe you still have old configuration files which were not upgraded properly. You could try to purge gdm and xdm and then reinstall them: apt-get --purge remove xdm gdm apt-get install xdm gdm (The --purge option makes sure that all configuration files are removed, therefore you will get the up-to-date ones from the new packages when you install xdm and gdm again.) -- Regards, Florian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X-Windows Problems - Wacom
Tangled thread; one of yesterday's postings just showed up. A later posting reported editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf as per linuxwacom.sf.net manual. I now have the following situation: The stylus moves the cursor, the mouse does not. The mouse buttons and scroll wheel work. Tom George -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X-Windows Problems - Progress
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 02:04:57PM -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 11:30:37AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 16:41:09 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: I am stumbling through the move from Sarge to testing. I have managed to get gdm to start but if I switch to a console I lose the window and must restart gdm. Equally frustrating, my Wacom tablet mouse is not recognized though it worked perfectly in Sarge and the wacom module is installed. This may be because I have not yet installed x-window-system-core. Apt-get reports that this package and 457 other packages are not installed as they cannot be verified. Should I go ahead and install them anyway? Which archive signing keys are known to your apt-key? Post the output of apt-key list and the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list file, then we can tell you which ones are missing (and how to install them). I would first try to complete the upgrade and install all packages before addressing the X problem. [...] Thank you for you assistance, Florian. I am attaching the output of apt-key list and sources.list. # See sources.list(5) for more information, especialy # Remember that you can only use http, ftp or file URIs # CDROMs are managed through the apt-cdrom tool. # deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian oldstable main contrib non-free # deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free # deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian sarge main contrib non-free # deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free # deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/ # deb-src http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt source/ deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org testing/updates main contrib non-free # Uncomment if you want the apt-get source function to work deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free Best regards, Tom Florian's comments led me to recognize the link to ftp.nerim.net might be the problem. I commented out and was able to complete the upgrade though I still had to purge glibc-doc to resolve a conflict. After completing the upgrade I had no X-windows at all. strace /etc/init.d/gdm restart revealed no gdm in /usr/bin. I found it in /usr/sbin and was able to start the program from there. I can now switch back and forth between X-windows (Ctl-Alt-F7) and consoles (Ctl-Alt-F1, etc) with no problems. The Wacom mouse still does not work. I found and installed xserver-xorg-input-wacom but this has not helped. The Debian Changelog in /usr/share/doc/wacom-tools seems to indicate unresolved problems. I will wait for new updates. Tom George -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X-Windows Problems
On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 03:09:39PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 14:04:57 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 11:30:37AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 16:41:09 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: I am stumbling through the move from Sarge to testing. I have managed to get gdm to start but if I switch to a console I lose the window and must restart gdm. Equally frustrating, my Wacom tablet mouse is not recognized though it worked perfectly in Sarge and the wacom module is installed. This may be because I have not yet installed x-window-system-core. Apt-get reports that this package and 457 other packages are not installed as they cannot be verified. Should I go ahead and install them anyway? [...] Testing is using Xorg instead of Xfree86. Once you have downloaded the archive keys and completed the upgrade, you can try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. (This should happen automatically during the upgrade anyway.) If you still have problems with Xorg after that, post the output of the following three commands: lspci | grep -i vga awk '/Section (Device|Monitor|Screen)/,/EndSection/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf egrep '^\((EE|WW)\)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log [...] Thank you for you assistance, Florian. I am attaching the output of apt-key list and sources.list. /etc/apt/trusted.gpg pub 1024R/1DB114E0 2004-01-15 [expired: 2005-01-27] uid Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2004) [EMAIL PROTECTED] pub 1024D/4F368D5D 2005-01-31 [expired: 2006-01-31] uid Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2005) [EMAIL PROTECTED] pub 1024D/B5F5BBED 2005-04-24 uid Debian AMD64 Archive Key debian-amd64@lists.debian.org sub 2048g/34FC6FE5 2005-04-24 pub 1024D/2D230C5F 2006-01-03 [expires: 2007-02-07] uid Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2006) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org testing/updates main contrib non-free That looks OK to me; the only thing that I notice is that you are missing Christian Marillat's signing key. I would propose to ignore this for now and to just comment out the ftp.nerim.net line. (I also think you have to change sarge to etch or testing now.) When the problem with X/gdm is settled you can always get the key as described here http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2006/05/msg02309.html and install what you want from Marillat's packages. [...] I think your problem is the result of an incomplete transition from XFree86 to Xorg. With the ftp.nerim.net line commented out, try apt-get update again. If apt is still missing some amd64-specific keys (I don't know too much about those) then it should at least give you the numbers of those keys. Post these numbers here and we can tell you were to find the corresponding keys. With all keys provided you should be able to do apt-get install -f to fix all unresolved issues. Once that works without errors and an apt-get dist-upgrade tells you that there are no more packages to upgrade, you should have a working Xorg. If that does not work we have to take a closer look, but first apt-get has to bring your system into a consistent state by completing the upgrade. -- Regards, Florian I now have all the lines in sources.list commented out except those for testing. I ran apt-get install -f followed by apt-get update then apt-get dist-upgrade and, finally, apt-get install -f again with no problems. The final apt-get install -f exited with 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 removed and 0 not upgraded Rebooted. A line with a red + went by with a message something to the effect: 'files not mounted with error code 96' but the system started at console tty1, no X-window. Logged on as root, went to /usr/sbin and ran gdm. X-window gnome logon screen came up and I logged on as tom, started Mozilla and read mail. Still cannot use Wacom mouse, lsmod shows wacom module loaded, not used. Regards, Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X-Windows Problems
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 11:30:37AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 16:41:09 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: I am stumbling through the move from Sarge to testing. I have managed to get gdm to start but if I switch to a console I lose the window and must restart gdm. Equally frustrating, my Wacom tablet mouse is not recognized though it worked perfectly in Sarge and the wacom module is installed. This may be because I have not yet installed x-window-system-core. Apt-get reports that this package and 457 other packages are not installed as they cannot be verified. Should I go ahead and install them anyway? Which archive signing keys are known to your apt-key? Post the output of apt-key list and the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list file, then we can tell you which ones are missing (and how to install them). I would first try to complete the upgrade and install all packages before addressing the X problem. [...] Next I ran apt-get dist-upgrade. After this the ethernet connection failed, gdm tried to start repeatedly and failed and there was a message that udev required kernel 2.6.12 or higher. I had 2.6.11. Next I booted from a bbc-2.1 cd and used lynx to find and download the linux-2.6.15 kernel source from the Debian website. I compiled this kernel using the .config from the 2.6.11 kernel directory, updated lilo.conf, and booted from the new kernel. The ethernet connection was restored but gdm still would not start. I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 without success. Next I recalled that previously I had solved this problem by running xf86config from /usr/X11R6/bin. The upgrade had deleted this program but I recovered it from another computer and ran it. This created an XF86Config file in /etc/X11 and then gdm could start. Testing is using Xorg instead of Xfree86. Once you have downloaded the archive keys and completed the upgrade, you can try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. (This should happen automatically during the upgrade anyway.) If you still have problems with Xorg after that, post the output of the following three commands: lspci | grep -i vga awk '/Section (Device|Monitor|Screen)/,/EndSection/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf egrep '^\((EE|WW)\)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log -- Regards, Florian Thank you for you assistance, Florian. I am attaching the output of apt-key list and sources.list. /etc/apt/trusted.gpg pub 1024R/1DB114E0 2004-01-15 [expired: 2005-01-27] uid Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2004) [EMAIL PROTECTED] pub 1024D/4F368D5D 2005-01-31 [expired: 2006-01-31] uid Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2005) [EMAIL PROTECTED] pub 1024D/B5F5BBED 2005-04-24 uid Debian AMD64 Archive Key debian-amd64@lists.debian.org sub 2048g/34FC6FE5 2005-04-24 pub 1024D/2D230C5F 2006-01-03 [expires: 2007-02-07] uid Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2006) [EMAIL PROTECTED] # See sources.list(5) for more information, especialy # Remember that you can only use http, ftp or file URIs # CDROMs are managed through the apt-cdrom tool. # deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian oldstable main contrib non-free # deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free # deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian sarge main contrib non-free # deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free # deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/ # deb-src http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt source/ deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org testing/updates main contrib non-free # Uncomment if you want the apt-get source function to work deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free Best regards, Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X-Windows Problems
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 03:30:43AM +, s. keeling wrote: Thomas H. George [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am stumbling through the move from Sarge to testing. I have managed There are reasons why Sarge is called stable. Stay with Sarge/stable. Testing is meant for those who *know* Debian well enough to not stumble, not for those who want newer software. I feel a little put down but not deterred and a little puzzled. Should only developers use testing? Is there not some advantage in having a larger group trying to use the packages as long as it is understood that they may fail? Tom George -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X-Windows Problems
Thomas H. George [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 03:30:43AM +, s. keeling wrote: Thomas H. George [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am stumbling through the move from Sarge to testing. I have managed There are reasons why Sarge is called stable. Stay with Sarge/stable. Testing is meant for those who *know* Debian well enough to not stumble, not for those who want newer software. I feel a little put down but not deterred and a little puzzled. Should Not a put down. :-) only developers use testing? Is there not some advantage in having a I didn't mention developers. I said those who *know* Debian well enough to not stumble. The point of all this is to get a working system. The point of Debian is to produce stable; always has been, hopefully always will be. larger group trying to use the packages as long as it is understood that they may fail? There is, sure, but if you're stumbling with testing, how much help can you be? I think it's better for you and Debian that you have a working system from which you can continue to learn. I've been running Linux since '93, Debian since the late '90's, yet I'm still stumbling in ways. Since re-installing my system over the weekend, I can't get my printer to work. It was fine a week ago. I can't figure out how to get a left-handed mouse. No amount of fiddling with xmodmap, ~/.inputrc, or gpm repeating has had any effect. I learned how to do all that stuff a long time ago, yet here I am running a _stable_ system which is exhibiting warts. It's bloody annoying. Less experienced users might be tempted to give up on Debian if stuff like that was happening to them, and that's the last thing Debian needs. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling Linux Counter #80292 - -Spammers! http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling/emails.html http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X-Windows Problems
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 14:04:57 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 11:30:37AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 16:41:09 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: I am stumbling through the move from Sarge to testing. I have managed to get gdm to start but if I switch to a console I lose the window and must restart gdm. Equally frustrating, my Wacom tablet mouse is not recognized though it worked perfectly in Sarge and the wacom module is installed. This may be because I have not yet installed x-window-system-core. Apt-get reports that this package and 457 other packages are not installed as they cannot be verified. Should I go ahead and install them anyway? [...] Testing is using Xorg instead of Xfree86. Once you have downloaded the archive keys and completed the upgrade, you can try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. (This should happen automatically during the upgrade anyway.) If you still have problems with Xorg after that, post the output of the following three commands: lspci | grep -i vga awk '/Section (Device|Monitor|Screen)/,/EndSection/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf egrep '^\((EE|WW)\)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log [...] Thank you for you assistance, Florian. I am attaching the output of apt-key list and sources.list. /etc/apt/trusted.gpg pub 1024R/1DB114E0 2004-01-15 [expired: 2005-01-27] uid Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2004) [EMAIL PROTECTED] pub 1024D/4F368D5D 2005-01-31 [expired: 2006-01-31] uid Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2005) [EMAIL PROTECTED] pub 1024D/B5F5BBED 2005-04-24 uid Debian AMD64 Archive Key debian-amd64@lists.debian.org sub 2048g/34FC6FE5 2005-04-24 pub 1024D/2D230C5F 2006-01-03 [expires: 2007-02-07] uid Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2006) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org testing/updates main contrib non-free That looks OK to me; the only thing that I notice is that you are missing Christian Marillat's signing key. I would propose to ignore this for now and to just comment out the ftp.nerim.net line. (I also think you have to change sarge to etch or testing now.) When the problem with X/gdm is settled you can always get the key as described here http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2006/05/msg02309.html and install what you want from Marillat's packages. [...] I think your problem is the result of an incomplete transition from XFree86 to Xorg. With the ftp.nerim.net line commented out, try apt-get update again. If apt is still missing some amd64-specific keys (I don't know too much about those) then it should at least give you the numbers of those keys. Post these numbers here and we can tell you were to find the corresponding keys. With all keys provided you should be able to do apt-get install -f to fix all unresolved issues. Once that works without errors and an apt-get dist-upgrade tells you that there are no more packages to upgrade, you should have a working Xorg. If that does not work we have to take a closer look, but first apt-get has to bring your system into a consistent state by completing the upgrade. -- Regards, Florian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X-Windows Problems
Thomas H. George [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am stumbling through the move from Sarge to testing. I have managed There are reasons why Sarge is called stable. Stay with Sarge/stable. Testing is meant for those who *know* Debian well enough to not stumble, not for those who want newer software. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling Linux Counter #80292 - -Spammers! http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling/emails.html http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X-Windows Problems
s. keeling wrote: Thomas H. George [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am stumbling through the move from Sarge to testing. I have managed There are reasons why Sarge is called stable. Stay with Sarge/stable. Testing is meant for those who *know* Debian well enough to not stumble, not for those who want newer software. I can see your point. However, at some point in the near future, Etch will become stable and then those who don't know Debian well enough to not stumble will be expected to upgrade their machines. Someone has to go there first. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: X-Windows Problems
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 16:41:09 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: I am stumbling through the move from Sarge to testing. I have managed to get gdm to start but if I switch to a console I lose the window and must restart gdm. Equally frustrating, my Wacom tablet mouse is not recognized though it worked perfectly in Sarge and the wacom module is installed. This may be because I have not yet installed x-window-system-core. Apt-get reports that this package and 457 other packages are not installed as they cannot be verified. Should I go ahead and install them anyway? Which archive signing keys are known to your apt-key? Post the output of apt-key list and the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list file, then we can tell you which ones are missing (and how to install them). I would first try to complete the upgrade and install all packages before addressing the X problem. [...] Next I ran apt-get dist-upgrade. After this the ethernet connection failed, gdm tried to start repeatedly and failed and there was a message that udev required kernel 2.6.12 or higher. I had 2.6.11. Next I booted from a bbc-2.1 cd and used lynx to find and download the linux-2.6.15 kernel source from the Debian website. I compiled this kernel using the .config from the 2.6.11 kernel directory, updated lilo.conf, and booted from the new kernel. The ethernet connection was restored but gdm still would not start. I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 without success. Next I recalled that previously I had solved this problem by running xf86config from /usr/X11R6/bin. The upgrade had deleted this program but I recovered it from another computer and ran it. This created an XF86Config file in /etc/X11 and then gdm could start. Testing is using Xorg instead of Xfree86. Once you have downloaded the archive keys and completed the upgrade, you can try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. (This should happen automatically during the upgrade anyway.) If you still have problems with Xorg after that, post the output of the following three commands: lspci | grep -i vga awk '/Section (Device|Monitor|Screen)/,/EndSection/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf egrep '^\((EE|WW)\)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log -- Regards, Florian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Windows Problems
I am stumbling through the move from Sarge to testing. I have managed to get gdm to start but if I switch to a console I lose the window and must restart gdm. Equally frustrating, my Wacom tablet mouse is not recognized though it worked perfectly in Sarge and the wacom module is installed. This may be because I have not yet installed x-window-system-core. Apt-get reports that this package and 457 other packages are not installed as they cannot be verified. Should I go ahead and install them anyway? I know there have been many past messages on the list regarding the move from Sarge to testing and I will try to go back to the archives to see if this problem has already been solved repeatedly. In the meantime if anyone has any quick words of advice they would be very welcome. For the record, I started off by backing up all of my home directory and all of /etc. Next I ran apt-get dist-upgrade. After this the ethernet connection failed, gdm tried to start repeatedly and failed and there was a message that udev required kernel 2.6.12 or higher. I had 2.6.11. Next I booted from a bbc-2.1 cd and used lynx to find and download the linux-2.6.15 kernel source from the Debian website. I compiled this kernel using the .config from the 2.6.11 kernel directory, updated lilo.conf, and booted from the new kernel. The ethernet connection was restored but gdm still would not start. I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 without success. Next I recalled that previously I had solved this problem by running xf86config from /usr/X11R6/bin. The upgrade had deleted this program but I recovered it from another computer and ran it. This created an XF86Config file in /etc/X11 and then gdm could start. It took me all day to get this far so I am posting this message and will resume the struggle tomorrow. Tom George -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X-windows Problems with firefox install connections???
Hello!! My apt source list points to unstable currently. As much I don't want to admit it, I guess I will reinstall Windows 98 on it (the original OS). The current state of affairs is way too much trouble and time consuming for me as of right now. As much as I like Linux, I am still too much of a newbie to delve into the restrictive inner workings of older hardware and Linux drivers and such. If it was a more recent machine I would be more ambitious, but it being close to almost 8.5 years old, I think I will leave were its at. I wish to thank everyone who tried to help me, your advice and quick responses were greatly appreciated. Thank you again. -Will
Re: X-windows Problems with firefox install connections???
On Thu, Jul 28, 2005 at 12:36:35PM -0400, Will Ness wrote: Hello! Here is the breakdown, yes I am using 2.2 idepci kernel on my laptop. However when I do the apt-get command, it claims that the newer kernel image is not been found. Have you done apt-get update? If you are using a 2.2 kernel, you are probably using Woody. Do the entries in your sources.list file point to woody or oldstable, not stable? Not sure what to do next. Perhaps at this point, should I consider a reinstall? I know that x-windows worked the first time around, so should I reinstall it, and then save the config file? Perhaps dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 would work. (maybe you have tried that; I only keep debian-user posts for two days) -- Tonight you will pay the wages of sin; Don't forget to leave a tip. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X-windows Problems with firefox install connections???
Hello! Here is the breakdown, yes I am using 2.2 idepci kernel on my laptop. However when I do the apt-get command, it claims that the newer kernel image is not been found. Not sure what to do next. Perhaps at this point, should I consider a reinstall? I know that x-windows worked the first time around, so should I reinstall it, and then save the config file? -Will
Re: X-windows Problems with firefox install connections???
You are probably using 2.2, which I have no experience with. Try upgrading to 2.4 if possible, with the following command: apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-1-386 (You will need to reboot.) That will bring you up to 2.4, and then you may want to upgrade to sarge, the latest stable, and get 2.6. However with the 2.4 you will probably fair better. Try the upgrade and then loading the modules.On 7/22/05, Will Ness [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello!I am using the standard 'safe' kernal installation on the woody cds.No customization invovled. I believe the kernal is 2.2 or 2.4 but Iwill get back to you on that. What other modules should I try? -Will
Re: X-windows Problems with firefox install connections???
Hello! I am using the standard 'safe' kernal installation on the woody cds. No customization invovled. I believe the kernal is 2.2 or 2.4 but I will get back to you on that. What other modules should I try? -Will
Re: X-windows Problems with firefox install connections???
Hello! Cool, so now I know for sure its the mouse driver. How do I go about adding the psmouse or event modules? Do I go in and edit the x-config file to say psmouse/usbhid/mousedev in the device or Protocol section? Or not that at all? I am very much a newbie when it comes to installing/modifying drivers of any sort in linuxSorry to be a pain.. -Will
Re: X-windows Problems with firefox install connections???
First of all, this isn't a pain. This is what mailing lists are for. Second, to see if it works, in a console run: modprobe input modprobe psmouse modprobe usbhid modprobe mousedev. Then start x. If that works, then add input, psmouse, usbhid, and mousedev to /etc/modules. That will load them on startup.On 7/21/05, Will Ness [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hello!Cool, so now I know for sure its the mouse driver. How do I go about adding the psmouse or event modules? Do I go in and edit the x-configfile to say psmouse/usbhid/mousedev in the device or Protocolsection? Or not that at all? I am very much a newbie when it comes to installing/modifying drivers of any sort in linuxSorry to be apain..-Will
Re: X-windows Problems with firefox install connections???
Hello! Thank you again for the help! Please know that I truly appreciate it! Anyways,I tried what you suggested and all I got for each input was : Can't locate module (input) What happens now? -Will
Re: X-windows Problems with firefox install connections???
That's alright, try the other modules, and then ty starting x. Are using the stock kernel, or are you using custom kernel? And what kernel.On 7/21/05, Will Ness [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hello!Thank you again for the help! Please know that I truly appreciate it! Anyways,I tried what you suggested and all I got for each input was :Can't locate module (input)What happens now?-Will
X-windows Problems with firefox install connections???
Hello List! I have an old laptop that I installed debian on. After I got help to fix my previous apt problem, I went ahead and installed firefox. Now my X-windows will not work, and I am hopelessly over my head as to why. I have tried remaking the XF86config-4 file, and the end result is that i get a screen for 4-5 secs, then it dies. The error msg is about mouse control/font issues. I have not foggiest idea of what to do now. Any help would be welcome at this point. -Will Here is my X-config file: ## BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION # XF86Config-4 (XFree86 server configuration file) generated by dexconf, the # Debian X Configuration tool, using values from the debconf database. # # Edit this file with caution, and see the XF86Config-4 manual page. # (Type man XF86Config-4 at the shell prompt.) # # If you want your changes to this file preserved by dexconf, only make changes # before the ### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION line above, and/or after the # ### END DEBCONF SECTION line below. # # To change things within the debconf section, run the command: # dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 # as root. Also see How do I add custom sections to a dexconf-generated # XF86Config or XF86Config-4 file? in /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ.gz. Section Files FontPath unix/:7100 # local font server # if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these FontPath /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc FontPath /usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic FontPath /usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled FontPath /usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled FontPath /usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1 FontPath /usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo FontPath /usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi FontPath /usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi EndSection Section Module Load freetype EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver keyboard Option CoreKeyboard Option XkbRules xfree86 Option XkbModel pc104 Option XkbLayout us EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Configured Mouse Driver mouse Option CorePointer Option Device /dev/psaux Option Protocol PS/2 EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Mouse Driver mouse Option SendCoreEvents true Option Device /dev/input/mice Option Protocol ImPS/2 EndSection Section Device Identifier Neo Card Driver neomagic Option UseFBDev true EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Compaq HorizSync 28-49 VertRefresh 43-72 Option DPMS EndSection Section Screen Identifier Default Screen Device Neo Card Monitor Compaq DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Depth 1 Modes 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth 4 Modes 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth 8 Modes 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth 15 Modes 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth 16 Modes 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth 24 Modes 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection EndSection Section ServerLayout Identifier Default Layout Screen Default Screen InputDevice Generic Keyboard InputDevice Configured Mouse InputDevice Generic Mouse EndSection Section DRI Mode 0666 EndSection ### END DEBCONF SECTION Here is the Error log for X-windows that it generated: This is a pre-release version of XFree86, and is not supported in any way. Bugs may be reported to XFree86@XFree86.Org and patches submitted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions, please check the latest version in the XFree86 CVS repository (http://www.XFree86.Org/cvs) XFree86 Version 4.1.0.1 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6510) Release Date: 21 December 2001 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting problems. (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ) Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.17 i686 [ELF] Module Loader present (==) Log file: /var/log/XFree86.0.log, Time: Wed Jul 20 12:19:31 2005 (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) ServerLayout Default Layout (**) |--Screen Default Screen (0) (**) | |--Monitor Compaq (**) | |--Device Neo Card (**) |--Input Device Generic Keyboard (**) Option XkbRules xfree86 (**) XKB: rules: xfree86 (**) Option XkbModel pc104 (**) XKB: model: pc104 (**) Option XkbLayout us (**) XKB: layout: us (==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled (**) |--Input Device Configured Mouse (**) |--Input Device Generic Mouse (WW) The directory /usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (**) FontPath set to
X Windows Problems
Hi all. I am having a very difficult time setting up my X-Windows system. I am VERY new to the Debian (and linux in general), and can't get my X-Windows working correctly. What happens is that after I configure my X-Windows in the xf86config executable and type startx, the screen goes black, and does not come back. My ATI Radeon 32DDR video card is not on the list, and I'm not sure what kind of default to use for this. Are there any suggestions on how I can get my video card configured correctly? Is there a generic I should use, or should I download a driver for it (If so, could someone please tell me where I should get it, and how to properly install it? Just with dselect I'm assuming?). Also, I believe I am configuring xdm (or something like it) to manage my windows. I'm not sure if it has something to do with this or not, but everytime I boot up (even with an emergency backup floppy), the X-Windows tries to start up and the screen goes black again. I have reinstalled Debian 3 times to try and figure out what's going on, and haven't seemed to make any progress. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! Patrick
X Windows Problems
Hi all. I am having a very difficult time setting up my X-Windows system. I am VERY new to the Debian (and linux in general), and can't get my X-Windows working correctly. What happens is that after I configure my X-Windows in the xf86config executable and type startx, the screen goes black, and does not come back. My ATI Radeon 32DDR video card is not on the list, and I'm not sure what kind of default to use for this. Are there any suggestions on how I can get my video card configured correctly? Is there a generic I should use, or should I download a driver for it (If so, could someone please tell me where I should get it, and how to properly install it? Just with dselect I'm assuming?). Also, I believe I am configuring xdm (or something like it) to manage my windows. I'm not sure if it has something to do with this or not, but everytime I boot up (even with an emergency backup floppy), the X-Windows tries to start up and the screen goes black again. I have reinstalled Debian 3 times to try and figure out what's going on, and haven't seemed to make any progress. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! Patrick
Re: X Windows Problems
Patrick == Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Patrick Also, I believe I am configuring xdm (or something like Patrick it) to manage my windows. I'm not sure if it has Patrick something to do with this or not, but everytime I boot up Patrick (even with an emergency backup floppy), the X-Windows Patrick tries to start up and the screen goes black again. I Patrick have reinstalled Debian 3 times to try and figure out Patrick what's going on, and haven't seemed to make any progress. Patrick Any ideas would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! Look at section 10.5 of README.dri in /usr/doc/xserver-xfree86, Mind you this is with X 4.1 YMMV -- Joel
Re: X Windows Problems
On Sunday, August 19, 2001 2:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My ATI Radeon 32DDR video card is not on the list, and I'm not sure what kind of default to use for this. While I have not tried X with the Radeon, I have found that the current svga server works like magic with ATI hardware. Get the svga server with: apt-get install xserver-svga and get the standard vga server (for the setup program) with: apt-get install xserver-vga16 Then type 'XF86Setup', if it asks you about using the current config, answer no. Under the cards section, don't use the card list but go to the Detailed setup and make sure that the SVGA server button is depressed. Under the Monitor section, enter the horizontal and vertical ranges (low-high) as found in your monitor spec (you DO keep those, right? :) ). If you don't have the spec, choose one of the canned configs (just make sure your monitor can do what you indicate it can do). Under the Modeselection section, choose the color depth and resolutions you want. Press Done and see if it works. If all is well, save the config. You can re-run the program to setup the mouse and keyboard stuff if you want. Also, I believe I am configuring xdm (or something like it) to manage my windows. I'm not sure if it has something to do with this or not, but everytime I boot up (even with an emergency backup floppy), the X-Windows tries to start up and the screen goes black again. Until you get X running, remove the display manger with: apt-get remove xdm and just use 'startx' for testing. I hope this helps. Take care, -=greg
Re: X Windows Problems
#include hallo.h Patrick wrote on Sun Aug 19, 2001 um 02:59:31AM: First: which Debian branch, which XFree? AFAIK there is no support in XFree-3.3.x at all, so the only solution may be the kernel VESA framebuffer and the corresponding FB-Xserver. X-Windows in the xf86config executable and type startx, the screen goes black, and does not come back. My ATI Radeon 32DDR video card is not on the With XFree-4.1.x you may be lucky, or not. Radeon support ist IMHO Work In Progress. When you fail completely, try vesa driver instead. Some Radeon cards are mentioned to be supported in the Status file, so try ati first. It is to be changed in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, line containing Driver. Also, I believe I am configuring xdm (or something like it) to manage my windows. I'm not sure if it has something to do with this or not, but Which windows? I think you are speaking about X, alias X11, alias X-Window-System. I don't have any Windows on my linux system. everytime I boot up (even with an emergency backup floppy), the X-Windows tries to start up and the screen goes black again. I have reinstalled Debian 3 times to try and figure out what's going on, and haven't seemed to make any progress. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! Bullshit, never deal with Linux with such Windows methods. Reinstalling won't solve your problems. Instead, remove the xdm package after the installation or disable it, if you don't like the graphical login. chmod -x /etc/init.d/?dm Gruss/Regards, Eduard. -- Zum Unlesbarmachen kann man auch cdrecord blank=full auf eine CD-R anwenden ;-) aber doch wohl nur in /dev/mikrowelle oder? :-) Andreas 'Knv' Kanev in de.comp.hardware.cd-brenner
Re: X Windows Problems
On Sun, Aug 19, 2001 at 02:59:31AM -0700, Patrick wrote: Hi all. I am having a very difficult time setting up my X-Windows system. I am VERY new to the Debian (and linux in general), and can't get my X-Windows working correctly. What happens is that after I configure my X-Windows in the xf86config executable and type startx, the screen goes black, and does not come back. My ATI Radeon 32DDR video card is not on the list, and I'm not sure what kind of default to use for this. Are there any suggestions on how I can get my video card configured correctly? Is there a generic I should use, or should I download a driver for it (If so, could someone please tell me where I should get it, and how to properly install it? Just with dselect I'm assuming?). Also, I believe I am configuring xdm (or something like it) to manage my windows. I'm not sure if it has something to do with this or not, but everytime I boot up (even with an emergency backup floppy), the X-Windows tries to start up and the screen goes black again. I have reinstalled Debian 3 times to try and figure out what's going on, and haven't seemed to make any progress. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have dealt with a situation that sounds very similar to yours. I was trying to set up a ATI Radeon VE video card with a digital flat panel monitor. I used the most recent xfree package (4.1.0) from the unstable branch because it indicated it had support for the ATI Radeon. The only way I have gotten the ati driver to work at all is if the kernel has framebuffer support and it is enabled at startup. If the frambuffer is not enabled at startup, when the X server is started (startx) it would hard lock and the monitor would go into power off mode. /etc/lilo.conf vga=791 /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 Section Device ... Driver ati ... EndSection Another way to get it working without framebuffer stuff is by instead of using the ati driver use the vesa driver. This is probably the easiest solution. /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 Section Device ... Driver vesa ... EndSection -- Jeremiah Mahler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: X Windows Problems
Still trying to find a solution. I did get the computer to stop locking up though, which is good :) I found some error messages that perhaps might make sense to you guys. They don't make too much sense to me, other than telling me something is wrong! Using XFree86 ATI driver version 4.3 Unknown graphics controller detected Unknown chip descriptor in BIOS: 0x3F3F Unknown video adapter detected Brocktree 476 or similar RAMDAC detected Support for this video adapter is highly experimental! giving up. xinit: Address family not supported by protocol (errno 97): unable to connect to X server xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. I don't know if anyone can relate to these or not, but I figured it was worth a shot. Thanks! Patrick -Original Message- From: Patrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 3:00 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: X Windows Problems Hi all. I am having a very difficult time setting up my X-Windows system. I am VERY new to the Debian (and linux in general), and can't get my X-Windows working correctly. What happens is that after I configure my X-Windows in the xf86config executable and type startx, the screen goes black, and does not come back. My ATI Radeon 32DDR video card is not on the list, and I'm not sure what kind of default to use for this. Are there any suggestions on how I can get my video card configured correctly? Is there a generic I should use, or should I download a driver for it (If so, could someone please tell me where I should get it, and how to properly install it? Just with dselect I'm assuming?). Also, I believe I am configuring xdm (or something like it) to manage my windows. I'm not sure if it has something to do with this or not, but everytime I boot up (even with an emergency backup floppy), the X-Windows tries to start up and the screen goes black again. I have reinstalled Debian 3 times to try and figure out what's going on, and haven't seemed to make any progress. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X Windows Problems
a simple solution to prevent xdm from starting everytime you boot is to remove xdm from /etc/rc2.d. See, whenever linux boots it runs a script that causes the files in /etc/rcN.d where N is a number between 1 and 6 (called runlevels). Debian is set to runlevel 2 by default so by removing xdm from the directory executed in runlevel 2 you stop xdm from running at startup. This is a pretty crude way of doing it compared to some stuff that was discussed earlier this week, but its what i did and it works fine. As to how you can boot successfully to do this in the firstplace, you need to be in runlevel 1, which is single user mode and doesn't start xdm, and i'm not sure how to do this short of having a specially prepared boot floppy (yea, i'm pretty new to this myself) but it doesn't sound like you have a big problem with re-installing sooo, you might try that, and removing xdm from runlevel 2 right from the start. (anyone who happens to read this, please look for MY XF86Setup question, as i'm really having some trouble with it, thanks)
Re: X Windows Problems
On Sun, Aug 19, 2001 at 05:15:53PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you can boot successfully to do this in the firstplace, you need to be in runlevel 1, which is single user mode and doesn't start xdm, and i'm not sure how to do this short of having a specially prepared boot floppy (yea, i'm pretty new to this myself) but it doesn't sound like you have a big problem with re-installing sooo, you might try that, and removing xdm from runlevel 2 right from the start. to go into single user mode, type linux 1 at the LILO prompt. sam -- (Sam Varghese) http://www.gnubies.com
More X windows problems
Ok here goes: After getting logged back into the system, and removing the xdm and xfs from my RC's I now have additional problems. I am using a Microsoft Intellimouse with the wheel thingie. So when run xf86config that is what I chose. Also, I ran gpm-mouse-test and it says that it is on /dev/psaux and protocol ps2. The video is SiS 5597/5598 and the monitor is DB-1765 (and I stole the HFreq and VFreq from my Win 98 driver settings. Here is where things get weird. If I run SuperProbe and then startx I get an Xwindows desktop to come up very big and very ugly. However, Ctrl-Alt-kpd+ doesn't seem to change the video mode. The mouse seems to want to stay in the upper left hand corner of the screen and every time you try to move it, it keeps going back there. Also, once I get back out of X I can see the error messages from starting it and the is a message that it can't do something with the fd of the /dev/psaux due to some kind of inappropriate ioctl. That is the gist of he message, I'll need to copy it down and type it in some time but it was about 2 am and I just had to get some sleep. On the other hand, if I don't run SuperProbe, when I run startx the monitor makes a sound like it would like to switch modes, then the monitor light turns from green to amber signifying that it is powered down. Sometimes I can type exit or do ctrl-alt-F2 or ctrl-bksp and get back to a screen where I can type however the mode is so messed up, that it reminds me of the old days in the commodore world or even the early ibmpc days where you were in text mode but the adapter wasn't. I am using slink, I think, from CheapBytes. And I DLed XFree86 3.3.3.1 from XFree86.org to get the support of the SiS 5597/5598 card. I am really open to suggestions... Bradley
X Windows problems
Hi, I having some problem in configuring X to work properly with my video card. It's a Diamond Stealth 2500 (Alliance AT24 chip). The screen is stretched vertically so I can't reach the bottom; the fonts are distorteds, it's a ugly view. I can switch resolutions up to 800x600 (for some strange reason I can't use 1024x768 now. I did can with my old VLB 486 Diamond SpeedStar) Is there some limitations on XFree with this card? Is there some likely error I'm doing that somebody already know by experience? Any other hint? Besides this, X is extremely slow, as I would using a ISA card! Details: Debian 1.3.1 VXPro+-USB-Ultr Motherboard (Intel chipset) Award Modular V.451PG Release 07/07/1997 Bios Intel Pentium 150MHz - 64MB EDO RAM Diamond Stealth Video 2500 (Alliance AT24) PCI Card 2MB DRAM []s, Mario O.de MenezesMany are the plans in a man's heart, but IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
newbie X windows problems with menu?
I 've got X windows running but after typing startx I get xterm and a menu with only one menu item when I click the mouse.That is to exit. How do I get some of the X applications on the menu ? and get the X programs to work?I'm starting to loose my mind! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: newbie X windows problems with menu?
Yo- What window manager are you running? -Ian I 've got X windows running but after typing startx I get xterm and a menu with only one menu item when I click the mouse.That is to exit. How do I get some of the X applications on the menu ? and get the X programs to work?I'm starting to loose my mind! _ .__. ___ ___ | | .__. .__..__. .__. .__. \ \/ / | | | | | \ | | | | | | \ \ / / | | | | | |\ \ | | | | | | \ \/ / | |__.| | | | \ \| | | |_| | / /\ \ |__|__.|__| |__| \| |___| /__/ \__\ * DEBIAN GNU/Linux * -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: X-Windows problems
Hi, I got this problem some time ago, and solve it replacing Xserver, and changing Vsync and Hsync of the monitor. I think is better you use the manual to configure your video card, and I suggest you to use xf86config to make XF86Config file. Good luck Jorge -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Windows problems
Hi all, I'm a very happy user of Debian-1.2 (great job!), which have a little problem with the new XFree86-3.2: sometimes, when I start XFree (I use startx), the X screen has the extreme left part disturbed, and if I move the mouse over it, it will draw in the extreme right part, and viceversa. If I use xvidtune, the screen globally translate, but also the effect translate, and it persist; but if I switch to another console, and after return to the X screen, mostly the effect disappear. I think that the problem is related to a installation problem which I have faced: the XF86Setup and xf86config don't configured X-Window, because my monitor have Hsync=60 Hz and VSync=31.5 Hz, while XFree will HSync=60.10 and VSync=31.55 (!!). My Card is a Oak-77 and my monitor is a goldstar VGA 640x480x256. XF86Setup have not complained about VSync and HSync, and the I'm not sure if the problem is this but now X work, except for the little problem explained above. I thank all, which will help me! Ciao! Francesco Tapparo [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
