Re: XFree86 4.0.1 and TrueType fonts

2000-11-12 Thread Andrea Vettorello


Marc Wilson wrote:

 [...]

 It really is just that simple.  I had zero luck getting xfstt to cooperate
 with XF4, and had all sorts of weird font-isms until I disabled it.  Aterm
 would display hash instead of line-drawing characters, rxvt wouldn't even
 START, Eterm would start, but not display the menus properly, etc.

I've added this in the font path and xfstt seems to work right now:

Section Files
FontPathtcp/127.0.0.1:7101   # xfstt
FontPath/usr/share/fonts/truetype
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi
EndSection

Anyway, i'm still little confused about true type font with XF4. Without xfstt
Netscape show in the preference font requester the same true type font label as
monotype.


Andrea




Re: XFree86 4.0.1 and TrueType fonts

2000-11-12 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Sun, Nov 12, 2000 at 02:24:01PM +0100, Andrea Vettorello wrote:
 Marc Wilson wrote:
 
  [...]
 
  It really is just that simple.  I had zero luck getting xfstt to cooperate
  with XF4, and had all sorts of weird font-isms until I disabled it.  Aterm
  would display hash instead of line-drawing characters, rxvt wouldn't even
  START, Eterm would start, but not display the menus properly, etc.
 
 I've added this in the font path and xfstt seems to work right now:
 
 Section Files
 FontPathtcp/127.0.0.1:7101   # xfstt
 FontPath/usr/share/fonts/truetype
 FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc
 FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled
 FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled
 FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1
 FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo
 FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
 FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi
 EndSection
 
 Anyway, i'm still little confused about true type font with XF4. Without xfstt
 Netscape show in the preference font requester the same true type font label 
 as
 monotype.

Well, the new xfs with X4 does support TrueType fonts.  Use 'mkttfdir'
in the fttools package to make a fonts.dir file in
/usr/share/fonts/truetype.  Add the truetype path to the config file for
xfs and restart it.  xfstt then becomes redundant.


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Re: XFree86 4.0.1 and TrueType fonts

2000-11-06 Thread Erik Steffl
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 Marc Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  It's not all that hard... I went through this last night.
 
 Well, yah, it shouldn't have been. 8^/= I was doing the right thing,
 and for some reason, it wasn't working. Then, it started working. I'm
 not sure _why_ -- but I did notice a file called
 /etc/X11/.XF86Config.swp, which I reasoned might be doing something to

  that's vim swap file, should not interfere with X.

 prevent my XF86Config from being read. So, I moved it, restarted X,
 and *poof*, TrueType fonts a plenty.

erik



Re: X4 and a Trident Card? (was: Re: XFree86 4.0.1 and TrueType fonts)

2000-11-05 Thread John S. J. Anderson
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 On Nov 04 2000, John S. J. Anderson wrote:
  Once I got it working, however, I was quite impressed. It's
  noticeably faster than XFree 3.3.6 on window movement and screen
  redraws, even with the old 4 MB Trident card I've got.
 
   Old Trident Card? Hey, which one? We may be in the same boat.

It's a generic Trident 3Dimage 975 AGP card. 

   I've got a Trident 3D Image and it was a pain in the arse to
   get a Modeline working with 3.3.6 (X seems to misbehave with
   this card -- if I use a line that was supposedly to use a
   refresh rate of 60Hz, then sometimes I get my monitor saying
   that the signal it is receiving is for 20Hz or something else
   below its capabilities).

That's odd -- I never really had that much trouble with my monitor
(which is a generic 17 monitor from PCWarehouse). I can get 16bit
color in 1280x1024, and that's good enough for me.

   Which card do you have? I'm also a bit scared of upgrading to
   woody after I heard about the major breakage with the libc
   upgrade...

Well, that should be all better now, and the XFree update was pretty
pain-free (aside from a couple hours reading man pages and trying to
kludge together a XF86Config file...)

john.


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Re: XFree86 4.0.1 and TrueType fonts

2000-11-05 Thread wulfie
http://www.mindspring.com/~john_mcl/adding_fonts.html
This is not XF4-specific but does give a good guide to getting ttfs
running in X in general, plus all the required tools can be downloaded in
a single tarball.
It would make sense if ttmkfdir was included with freetype, but it appears
not to be.
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  ttmkfdir in the ttf dir :) Add the path to your fonts section in
  XF86Config, freetype to the modules section (you already did both, it
  seems)  you're there.
 
 What's the exact path to ttmkfdir on your box? I don't seem to have
 it, nor do I have a ttf dir -- at least, 'locate /ttf/' doesn't
 produce anything. I've got freetype in the modules section, and I've
 got the path to the TrueType font directory as a FontPath, but I don't
 get any TrueType fonts available in various font selection dialogs,
 and nothing at all in the ttf foundry (which is where all the fonts
 ended up when using xfstt).
 
 Any other advice on where to start digging for this info? Most of the
 web (including my own site, sadly enough) doesn't look all that great
 in GUI browsers without the 'standard' fonts...
 
 john.
 
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RE: XFree86 4.0.1 and TrueType fonts

2000-11-05 Thread Marc Wilson
It's not all that hard... I went through this last night.

Ok, I have my ttf fonts in /usr/share/lib/fonts/truetype.  I created a
symlink /usr/lib/X11/fonts/truetype to match the other font paths, and added
that to my fontpath list in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.  I then went there and
used ttmkfdir to create the fonts.dir file that the freetype module is
looking for.  Restarted X, and I had instant TrueType!

It really is just that simple.  I had zero luck getting xfstt to cooperate
with XF4, and had all sorts of weird font-isms until I disabled it.  Aterm
would display hash instead of line-drawing characters, rxvt wouldn't even
START, Eterm would start, but not display the menus properly, etc.

Of course, whoever it is at XFree86 that wrote README.fonts needs to be
shot.  With large-caliber weapons.

You can get ttmkfdir at http://freshmeat.net/projects/ttmkfdir

Have fun!

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wulfie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 ttmkfdir in the ttf dir :) Add the path to your fonts section in
 XF86Config, freetype to the modules section (you already did both, it
 seems)  you're there.

What's the exact path to ttmkfdir on your box? I don't seem to have
it, nor do I have a ttf dir -- at least, 'locate /ttf/' doesn't
produce anything. I've got freetype in the modules section, and I've
got the path to the TrueType font directory as a FontPath, but I don't
get any TrueType fonts available in various font selection dialogs,
and nothing at all in the ttf foundry (which is where all the fonts
ended up when using xfstt).

Any other advice on where to start digging for this info? Most of the
web (including my own site, sadly enough) doesn't look all that great
in GUI browsers without the 'standard' fonts...

john.

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Re: XFree86 4.0.1 and TrueType fonts

2000-11-05 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Sun, Nov 05, 2000 at 11:03:55AM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote:
 It really is just that simple.  I had zero luck getting xfstt to cooperate
 with XF4, and had all sorts of weird font-isms until I disabled it.  Aterm
 would display hash instead of line-drawing characters, rxvt wouldn't even
 START, Eterm would start, but not display the menus properly, etc.

Hmm, it's working fine here.  In XF86Config have a FontPath unix\:7101
and that's all it took.

It was my understanding that the xfs with X 4 was supposed to be
TrueType enabled (but maybe it's just the internal font engine??).

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Re: XFree86 4.0.1 and TrueType fonts

2000-11-05 Thread Joey Hess
wulfie wrote:
 It would make sense if ttmkfdir was included with freetype, but it appears
 not to be.

fttools has mkttfdir, which works

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Re: XFree86 4.0.1 and TrueType fonts

2000-11-05 Thread John S. J. Anderson
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Marc Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 It's not all that hard... I went through this last night.

Well, yah, it shouldn't have been. 8^/= I was doing the right thing,
and for some reason, it wasn't working. Then, it started working. I'm
not sure _why_ -- but I did notice a file called
/etc/X11/.XF86Config.swp, which I reasoned might be doing something to
prevent my XF86Config from being read. So, I moved it, restarted X,
and *poof*, TrueType fonts a plenty. 

Thanks to all who wrote in with suggestions.

john.


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Re: XFree86 4.0.1 and TrueType fonts

2000-11-05 Thread Joachim Trinkwitz
John S. J. Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 wulfie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  ttmkfdir in the ttf dir :) Add the path to your fonts section in
  XF86Config, freetype to the modules section (you already did both, it
  seems)  you're there.
 
 What's the exact path to ttmkfdir on your box? I don't seem to have
 it, nor do I have a ttf dir -- at least, 'locate /ttf/' doesn't
 produce anything. I've got freetype in the modules section, and I've
 got the path to the TrueType font directory as a FontPath, but I don't
 get any TrueType fonts available in various font selection dialogs,
 and nothing at all in the ttf foundry (which is where all the fonts
 ended up when using xfstt).

I think it should be 'mkttfdir'. This one appears in the description
of the fttools Debian package (I didn't install it yet, so I couldn't
try it).

Greetings,
joachim



XFree86 4.0.1 and TrueType fonts

2000-11-04 Thread John S. J. Anderson
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Greetings --

Did the XFree86 upgrade last night. Wasn't too bad; if I hadn't
mis-remembered the video card in this box, I think it would have been
seamless. As it was, I had to do some reading and playing around to
get /etc/X11/XF86Config set up the right way.

Once I got it working, however, I was quite impressed. It's noticeably
faster than XFree 3.3.6 on window movement and screen redraws, even
with the old 4 MB Trident card I've got.

The one thing I had trouble figuring out was my fonts. I've got a slew
of various TrueType fonts in /usr/share/fonts/truetype. I was using
xfstt to serve them via port 7101, but from what I can gather, the
Right Way under the XFree86 4 is to use one of the TrueType
backends. I had

Loadfreetype

in my XF86Config, and I added the directory as a FontPath, but I
still didn't have access to those TrueType fonts. 

Reading a bit between the lines in the docu, I figured out that I
needed to do a 'mkfontdir' in my TrueType directory -- but 'mkfontdir'
didn't seem to want to work. 

Turning to Google, I found 
URL:http://www.xfree86.org/pipermail/newbie/2000-June/17.html,
which lead me to ttmkfdir, which I downloaded via
URL:http://freshmeat.net/projects/ttmkfdir/

I already had the freetype2 and freetype2-dev packages installed, so
getting ttmkfdir to build was not too hard -- I had to add
'-I/usr/include/freetype' to the CFLAGS line in the Makefile, and then
'make' built the binary. 

I then ran 'ttmkfdir /usr/share/fonts/truetype/  fonts.scale', which
built the fonts.dir and fonts.scale files.

However, upon restarting X, I still can't see any of my TrueType
fonts.

Does anybody out there have a clue to spare on this issue?

TIA,
john.

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Re: XFree86 4.0.1 and TrueType fonts

2000-11-04 Thread wulfie
ttmkfdir in the ttf dir :) Add the path to your fonts section in
XF86Config, freetype to the modules section (you already did both, it
seems)  you're there.

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On 4 Nov 2000, John S. J. Anderson wrote:

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 Greetings --
 
 Did the XFree86 upgrade last night. Wasn't too bad; if I hadn't
 mis-remembered the video card in this box, I think it would have been
 seamless. As it was, I had to do some reading and playing around to
 get /etc/X11/XF86Config set up the right way.
 
 Once I got it working, however, I was quite impressed. It's noticeably
 faster than XFree 3.3.6 on window movement and screen redraws, even
 with the old 4 MB Trident card I've got.
 
 The one thing I had trouble figuring out was my fonts. I've got a slew
 of various TrueType fonts in /usr/share/fonts/truetype. I was using
 xfstt to serve them via port 7101, but from what I can gather, the
 Right Way under the XFree86 4 is to use one of the TrueType
 backends. I had
 
 Loadfreetype
 
 in my XF86Config, and I added the directory as a FontPath, but I
 still didn't have access to those TrueType fonts. 
 
 Reading a bit between the lines in the docu, I figured out that I
 needed to do a 'mkfontdir' in my TrueType directory -- but 'mkfontdir'
 didn't seem to want to work. 
 
 Turning to Google, I found 
 URL:http://www.xfree86.org/pipermail/newbie/2000-June/17.html,
 which lead me to ttmkfdir, which I downloaded via
 URL:http://freshmeat.net/projects/ttmkfdir/
 
 I already had the freetype2 and freetype2-dev packages installed, so
 getting ttmkfdir to build was not too hard -- I had to add
 '-I/usr/include/freetype' to the CFLAGS line in the Makefile, and then
 'make' built the binary. 
 
 I then ran 'ttmkfdir /usr/share/fonts/truetype/  fonts.scale', which
 built the fonts.dir and fonts.scale files.
 
 However, upon restarting X, I still can't see any of my TrueType
 fonts.
 
 Does anybody out there have a clue to spare on this issue?
 
 TIA,
 john.
 
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Re: XFree86 4.0.1 and TrueType fonts

2000-11-04 Thread John S. J. Anderson
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wulfie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 ttmkfdir in the ttf dir :) Add the path to your fonts section in
 XF86Config, freetype to the modules section (you already did both, it
 seems)  you're there.

What's the exact path to ttmkfdir on your box? I don't seem to have
it, nor do I have a ttf dir -- at least, 'locate /ttf/' doesn't
produce anything. I've got freetype in the modules section, and I've
got the path to the TrueType font directory as a FontPath, but I don't
get any TrueType fonts available in various font selection dialogs,
and nothing at all in the ttf foundry (which is where all the fonts
ended up when using xfstt).

Any other advice on where to start digging for this info? Most of the
web (including my own site, sadly enough) doesn't look all that great
in GUI browsers without the 'standard' fonts...

john.

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X4 and a Trident Card? (was: Re: XFree86 4.0.1 and TrueType fonts)

2000-11-04 Thread Rogerio Brito
On Nov 04 2000, John S. J. Anderson wrote:
 Once I got it working, however, I was quite impressed. It's
 noticeably faster than XFree 3.3.6 on window movement and screen
 redraws, even with the old 4 MB Trident card I've got.

Old Trident Card? Hey, which one? We may be in the same boat.

I've got a Trident 3D Image and it was a pain in the arse to
get a Modeline working with 3.3.6 (X seems to misbehave with
this card -- if I use a line that was supposedly to use a
refresh rate of 60Hz, then sometimes I get my monitor saying
that the signal it is receiving is for 20Hz or something else
below its capabilities).

Since I don't want to have the same problems with X4, then I'm
just waiting until some bugs more are found or people report
success with this card.

Which card do you have? I'm also a bit scared of upgrading to
woody after I heard about the major breakage with the libc
upgrade...


[]s, Roger...

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