Re: Xfce Power Manger and watching movies full screen
I understand what you are saying but I dont think its the simpler option to make 2 different launcher for the same application with different parameters. I will try the script Curt send me. I think that solution is applicable to other use cases. Reading pdf files, presentations etc. Thanks for your reply! On 4/2/19 5:46 PM, David Wright wrote: > On Tue 02 Apr 2019 at 08:55:58 (+0300), Georgios wrote: >> I'm watching movies through netflix so I do not have any ideas how to >> write a script that will do that thing. I guess the script should detect >> if an application is in full screen mode. > > What the script is doing is signalling your intent to watch a movie > rather than to, say, browse the web. The power of the CLI is that you > can wrap a number of actions that follow from your intent within one > command, whereas it might take several clicks on menus and buttons > to achieve the ssme ends on a DE. > > You write "an application" above. Presumably you watch movies in > one application but you also use that same application to do other > things too. One solution to this may be to have two ways of opening > this application, one for when watching movies, one for otherwis > > This is standard practice with CLIs, where calling the same program > but with a different commandname makes it behave differently, > eg aplay and arecord, which call the same binary. > > For a DE, this could mean, say, having two icons for opening the same > application, but which do different things to start with. It's much > easier to cause something to happen on the system than to try to > ascertain a certain application's state when its author didn't think > of providing the means to find out. > > A different tack might be to see if your WM has menus, or can create > buttons, or define a function key, that can be used to change your > power settings. For example, in fvwm, I have Alt-F10 set to take a > full screen shot with: > Key F10 A M Exec exec myfvwm-scrot-key-png.sh > and a button for just a window: > *MyButtons: (2x1+2+0, Title 'Grab PNG', Icon xterm.xpm, \ > Action 'Exec exec myfvwm-scrot-png.sh &') > Ignore the syntax and particulars here; the myfvwm… script could be > used to make any number of actions or changes to settings. > >> A "solution" I'm thinking is to put a cron job with the following command >> xfconf-query -c xfce4-power-manager -p >> /xfce4-power-manager/presentation-mode -s false to repeat it self every >> morning. >> >> Theoretically that should solve the problem of forgetting to change it back. >> >> Doesn't feel like a clean solution. > > Cron has a facility for running commands at every reboot, for example: > @reboot /sbin/kbdrate -r 8 -d 500 -s > As for being a clean solution, the system itself runs scripts to > initialise state that would otherwise persist across reboots, > eg cleaning /tmp. > >> Anyway It isn't a big problem. Usually I do not watch movies at all. >> Just had a leg surgery and I'm going to be bored to death the next >> couple of weeks until i start walking again. > > Good luck! Perhaps you won't miss the facility for long. > >> On 4/2/19 5:09 AM, David Wright wrote: >>> On Mon 01 Apr 2019 at 18:43:33 (+0300), Georgios wrote: Thanks for your reply. I already took a look at Caffeine before I send my first email. The problem with it is that it looks for an app running so I do not think its a good idea. I often leave my laptop with a lot of firefox tabs open and expect it to go to sleep mode or hibernation instead of closing it. I will probably have to settle with manually checking presentation mode although i was hopping for a more automated solution. On 4/1/19 6:15 PM, Curt wrote: > On 2019-04-01, Georgios wrote: >> Hi! >> First of all thanks for the fast reply. >> >> Yes I have presentation mode. I didn't even try it to see if its working >> with hibernate. The problem with that is that its inconvenient to check >> it and uncheck it all the time. >> >> I will inevitably forget it sooner or later. >>> >>> How about watching your movies with an in principle 3-line script: >>> >>> set the presentation mode >>> run the movie >>> revert to non-presentation mode >>> > Well, that's how you do it, presumably, with xfce power manager, which > was the question. Obviously, you toggle presentation mode on and off as > necessary, unless you're watching netflix 24/7, which might curdle your > brain. > > If not, there's 'caffeine'. > > Cheers, > David. >
Re: Xfce Power Manger and watching movies full screen
Thanks for your help! I will try that!
I think grubing cdm decryption module makes the program too specific. I
can think a couple use cases that full screen should prevent hibernation.
On 4/2/19 3:55 PM, Curt wrote:
> On 2019-04-02, Georgios wrote:
>> I'm watching movies through netflix so I do not have any ideas how to
>> write a script that will do that thing. I guess the script should detect
>> if an application is in full screen mode.
>>
>
> Here's a GPL script not far from your desire (can't vouch for it, though).
>
> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/jamcnaughton/useful-linux-scripts/master/xscreensaver/xscreensaverstopper.sh
>
> You'd have to alter, of course, the if clause to toggle on
> xfce-power-manager presentation mode (xfconf-query ...) rather than
> deactivating xscreensaver ('xscreensaver-command -deactivate'), and I
> guess add an 'else' to toggle it off when the active window isn't
> fullscreen.
>
> It seems possible to grep the output of 'ps aux' for the cdm decryption
> module, which might be another way to go in Netflix stream detection.
>
Re: Xfce Power Manger and watching movies full screen
On Tue 02 Apr 2019 at 08:55:58 (+0300), Georgios wrote: > I'm watching movies through netflix so I do not have any ideas how to > write a script that will do that thing. I guess the script should detect > if an application is in full screen mode. What the script is doing is signalling your intent to watch a movie rather than to, say, browse the web. The power of the CLI is that you can wrap a number of actions that follow from your intent within one command, whereas it might take several clicks on menus and buttons to achieve the ssme ends on a DE. You write "an application" above. Presumably you watch movies in one application but you also use that same application to do other things too. One solution to this may be to have two ways of opening this application, one for when watching movies, one for otherwise. This is standard practice with CLIs, where calling the same program but with a different commandname makes it behave differently, eg aplay and arecord, which call the same binary. For a DE, this could mean, say, having two icons for opening the same application, but which do different things to start with. It's much easier to cause something to happen on the system than to try to ascertain a certain application's state when its author didn't think of providing the means to find out. A different tack might be to see if your WM has menus, or can create buttons, or define a function key, that can be used to change your power settings. For example, in fvwm, I have Alt-F10 set to take a full screen shot with: Key F10 A M Exec exec myfvwm-scrot-key-png.sh and a button for just a window: *MyButtons: (2x1+2+0, Title 'Grab PNG', Icon xterm.xpm, \ Action 'Exec exec myfvwm-scrot-png.sh &') Ignore the syntax and particulars here; the myfvwm… script could be used to make any number of actions or changes to settings. > A "solution" I'm thinking is to put a cron job with the following command > xfconf-query -c xfce4-power-manager -p > /xfce4-power-manager/presentation-mode -s false to repeat it self every > morning. > > Theoretically that should solve the problem of forgetting to change it back. > > Doesn't feel like a clean solution. Cron has a facility for running commands at every reboot, for example: @reboot /sbin/kbdrate -r 8 -d 500 -s As for being a clean solution, the system itself runs scripts to initialise state that would otherwise persist across reboots, eg cleaning /tmp. > Anyway It isn't a big problem. Usually I do not watch movies at all. > Just had a leg surgery and I'm going to be bored to death the next > couple of weeks until i start walking again. Good luck! Perhaps you won't miss the facility for long. > On 4/2/19 5:09 AM, David Wright wrote: > > On Mon 01 Apr 2019 at 18:43:33 (+0300), Georgios wrote: > >> Thanks for your reply. > >> I already took a look at Caffeine before I send my first email. > >> The problem with it is that it looks for an app running so I do not > >> think its a good idea. > >> I often leave my laptop with a lot of firefox tabs open and expect it to > >> go to sleep mode or hibernation instead of closing it. > >> > >> I will probably have to settle with manually checking presentation mode > >> although i was hopping for a more automated solution. > >> > >> On 4/1/19 6:15 PM, Curt wrote: > >>> On 2019-04-01, Georgios wrote: > Hi! > First of all thanks for the fast reply. > > Yes I have presentation mode. I didn't even try it to see if its working > with hibernate. The problem with that is that its inconvenient to check > it and uncheck it all the time. > > I will inevitably forget it sooner or later. > > > > How about watching your movies with an in principle 3-line script: > > > > set the presentation mode > > run the movie > > revert to non-presentation mode > > > >>> Well, that's how you do it, presumably, with xfce power manager, which > >>> was the question. Obviously, you toggle presentation mode on and off as > >>> necessary, unless you're watching netflix 24/7, which might curdle your > >>> brain. > >>> > >>> If not, there's 'caffeine'. Cheers, David.
Re: Xfce Power Manger and watching movies full screen
On 2019-04-02, Georgios wrote:
> I'm watching movies through netflix so I do not have any ideas how to
> write a script that will do that thing. I guess the script should detect
> if an application is in full screen mode.
>
Here's a GPL script not far from your desire (can't vouch for it, though).
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/jamcnaughton/useful-linux-scripts/master/xscreensaver/xscreensaverstopper.sh
You'd have to alter, of course, the if clause to toggle on
xfce-power-manager presentation mode (xfconf-query ...) rather than
deactivating xscreensaver ('xscreensaver-command -deactivate'), and I
guess add an 'else' to toggle it off when the active window isn't
fullscreen.
It seems possible to grep the output of 'ps aux' for the cdm decryption
module, which might be another way to go in Netflix stream detection.
Re: Xfce Power Manger and watching movies full screen
I'm watching movies through netflix so I do not have any ideas how to write a script that will do that thing. I guess the script should detect if an application is in full screen mode. A "solution" I'm thinking is to put a cron job with the following command xfconf-query -c xfce4-power-manager -p /xfce4-power-manager/presentation-mode -s false to repeat it self every morning. Theoretically that should solve the problem of forgetting to change it back. Doesn't feel like a clean solution. Anyway It isn't a big problem. Usually I do not watch movies at all. Just had a leg surgery and I'm going to be bored to death the next couple of weeks until i start walking again. On 4/2/19 5:09 AM, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 01 Apr 2019 at 18:43:33 (+0300), Georgios wrote: >> Thanks for your reply. >> I already took a look at Caffeine before I send my first email. >> The problem with it is that it looks for an app running so I do not >> think its a good idea. >> I often leave my laptop with a lot of firefox tabs open and expect it to >> go to sleep mode or hibernation instead of closing it. >> >> I will probably have to settle with manually checking presentation mode >> although i was hopping for a more automated solution. >> >> On 4/1/19 6:15 PM, Curt wrote: >>> On 2019-04-01, Georgios wrote: Hi! First of all thanks for the fast reply. Yes I have presentation mode. I didn't even try it to see if its working with hibernate. The problem with that is that its inconvenient to check it and uncheck it all the time. I will inevitably forget it sooner or later. > > How about watching your movies with an in principle 3-line script: > > set the presentation mode > run the movie > revert to non-presentation mode > >>> Well, that's how you do it, presumably, with xfce power manager, which >>> was the question. Obviously, you toggle presentation mode on and off as >>> necessary, unless you're watching netflix 24/7, which might curdle your >>> brain. >>> >>> If not, there's 'caffeine'. > > Cheers, > David. >
Re: Xfce Power Manger and watching movies full screen
On Mon 01 Apr 2019 at 18:43:33 (+0300), Georgios wrote: > Thanks for your reply. > I already took a look at Caffeine before I send my first email. > The problem with it is that it looks for an app running so I do not > think its a good idea. > I often leave my laptop with a lot of firefox tabs open and expect it to > go to sleep mode or hibernation instead of closing it. > > I will probably have to settle with manually checking presentation mode > although i was hopping for a more automated solution. > > On 4/1/19 6:15 PM, Curt wrote: > > On 2019-04-01, Georgios wrote: > >> Hi! > >> First of all thanks for the fast reply. > >> > >> Yes I have presentation mode. I didn't even try it to see if its working > >> with hibernate. The problem with that is that its inconvenient to check > >> it and uncheck it all the time. > >> > >> I will inevitably forget it sooner or later. How about watching your movies with an in principle 3-line script: set the presentation mode run the movie revert to non-presentation mode > > Well, that's how you do it, presumably, with xfce power manager, which > > was the question. Obviously, you toggle presentation mode on and off as > > necessary, unless you're watching netflix 24/7, which might curdle your > > brain. > > > > If not, there's 'caffeine'. Cheers, David.
Re: Xfce Power Manger and watching movies full screen
Thanks for your reply. I already took a look at Caffeine before I send my first email. The problem with it is that it looks for an app running so I do not think its a good idea. I often leave my laptop with a lot of firefox tabs open and expect it to go to sleep mode or hibernation instead of closing it. I will probably have to settle with manually checking presentation mode although i was hopping for a more automated solution. On 4/1/19 6:15 PM, Curt wrote: > On 2019-04-01, Georgios wrote: >> Hi! >> First of all thanks for the fast reply. >> >> Yes I have presentation mode. I didn't even try it to see if its working >> with hibernate. The problem with that is that its inconvenient to check >> it and uncheck it all the time. >> >> I will inevitably forget it sooner or later. >> > > Well, that's how you do it, presumably, with xfce power manager, which > was the question. Obviously, you toggle presentation mode on and off as > necessary, unless you're watching netflix 24/7, which might curdle your > brain. > > If not, there's 'caffeine'. > > curty@einstein:~$ apt-cache show caffeine > Package: caffeine > Version: 2.8.3-3 > Installed-Size: 314 > Maintainer: Andrew Shadura > Architecture: all > Depends: python3.5:any, python3:any (>= 3.3.2-2~), perl, gir1.2-gtk-3.0, > gir1.2-appindicator3-0.1, python3-xlib, python3-pkg-resources, python3-gi, > libnet-dbus-perl > Description-en: prevent the desktop becoming idle in full-screen mode > Caffeine prevents the desktop from becoming idle when an application > is running full-screen. A desktop indicator ‘caffeine-indicator’ > supplies a manual toggle, and the command ‘caffeinate’ can be used > to prevent idleness for the duration of any command. > > This exhausts my extensive knowledge in the area. >
Re: Xfce Power Manger and watching movies full screen
On 2019-04-01, Georgios wrote: > Hi! > First of all thanks for the fast reply. > > Yes I have presentation mode. I didn't even try it to see if its working > with hibernate. The problem with that is that its inconvenient to check > it and uncheck it all the time. > > I will inevitably forget it sooner or later. > Well, that's how you do it, presumably, with xfce power manager, which was the question. Obviously, you toggle presentation mode on and off as necessary, unless you're watching netflix 24/7, which might curdle your brain. If not, there's 'caffeine'. curty@einstein:~$ apt-cache show caffeine Package: caffeine Version: 2.8.3-3 Installed-Size: 314 Maintainer: Andrew Shadura Architecture: all Depends: python3.5:any, python3:any (>= 3.3.2-2~), perl, gir1.2-gtk-3.0, gir1.2-appindicator3-0.1, python3-xlib, python3-pkg-resources, python3-gi, libnet-dbus-perl Description-en: prevent the desktop becoming idle in full-screen mode Caffeine prevents the desktop from becoming idle when an application is running full-screen. A desktop indicator ‘caffeine-indicator’ supplies a manual toggle, and the command ‘caffeinate’ can be used to prevent idleness for the duration of any command. This exhausts my extensive knowledge in the area.
Re: Xfce Power Manger and watching movies full screen
Hi! First of all thanks for the fast reply. Yes I have presentation mode. I didn't even try it to see if its working with hibernate. The problem with that is that its inconvenient to check it and uncheck it all the time. I will inevitably forget it sooner or later. On 4/1/19 4:02 PM, Curt wrote: > On 2019-04-01, Georgios wrote: >> Hi there! >> >> I'm running debian testing buster and I'm using xfce power manager. >> In xfce power manager settings on "System" tab I activate "hibernate" on >> 30 minutes and on the "Display" tab "Put to sleep" after 9 minutes and >> "Switch off after" 10 minutes. >> >> When i watch videos on netflix (full screen) the display doesn't Switch >> off in 10 minutes but the computer hibernate at 30 minutes. >> >> I do not want my laptop to transits on hibernate if I'm watching videos >> full screen. > > I really can't understand your attitude here. > > Just kidding. > > Don't you have a "Presentation Mode" checkbox somewhere in your xfce > power manager settings (or right-clicking an icon somewhere or something)? > > Or maybe > > xfconf-query -c xfce4-power-manager -p > /xfce4-power-manager/presentation-mode -T > > I actually don't have xfce power manager here, so this is all completely > theoretical. > > Or are you already in presentation mode, and something else is intervening? > >> I'm running debian buster with firefox-esr browser and xfce4. >> >> Thanks in advance for your help. >> >> > >
Re: Xfce Power Manger and watching movies full screen
On 2019-04-01, Georgios wrote: > Hi there! > > I'm running debian testing buster and I'm using xfce power manager. > In xfce power manager settings on "System" tab I activate "hibernate" on > 30 minutes and on the "Display" tab "Put to sleep" after 9 minutes and > "Switch off after" 10 minutes. > > When i watch videos on netflix (full screen) the display doesn't Switch > off in 10 minutes but the computer hibernate at 30 minutes. > > I do not want my laptop to transits on hibernate if I'm watching videos > full screen. I really can't understand your attitude here. Just kidding. Don't you have a "Presentation Mode" checkbox somewhere in your xfce power manager settings (or right-clicking an icon somewhere or something)? Or maybe xfconf-query -c xfce4-power-manager -p /xfce4-power-manager/presentation-mode -T I actually don't have xfce power manager here, so this is all completely theoretical. Or are you already in presentation mode, and something else is intervening? > I'm running debian buster with firefox-esr browser and xfce4. > > Thanks in advance for your help. > > -- “Let us again pretend that life is a solid substance, shaped like a globe, which we turn about in our fingers. Let us pretend that we can make out a plain and logical story, so that when one matter is despatched--love for instance-- we go on, in an orderly manner, to the next.” - Virginia Woolf, The Waves
Xfce Power Manger and watching movies full screen
Hi there! I'm running debian testing buster and I'm using xfce power manager. In xfce power manager settings on "System" tab I activate "hibernate" on 30 minutes and on the "Display" tab "Put to sleep" after 9 minutes and "Switch off after" 10 minutes. When i watch videos on netflix (full screen) the display doesn't Switch off in 10 minutes but the computer hibernate at 30 minutes. I do not want my laptop to transits on hibernate if I'm watching videos full screen. I'm running debian buster with firefox-esr browser and xfce4. Thanks in advance for your help.
